Where is footwork of wing chun?Guys half wing chun is learn to walk!This is like mma with some chain punches.No way to become better training this way.Always would be a catfight
I see no point of Wing Tsun. These guys would have been better off joining an MMA club. At least they would have been trained properly by real fighters.
the level of contact is good but some of the repeated stomps and knees and the seeming refusal to respect unconsciousness or surrender seems like it may be more in the vein of teaching senior students to be sadistic instead of training junior students to fight. What is the context of this - is it a test, a tournament, or routine?
these guys may not be doing 100% wingtsun, or even close to it, but they will be more ready when it comes to an actual fight. anybody who thinks they can always do perfect technique in a real fight has never been in a real fight. martial arts has to be adapted to the situation, and that is what these guys are doing. there is a great video of 2 kung fu master fighting each other. after all those years of practicing, when it came to a real fight, all they did was just slap and run.
really thats wing chun???? na i dont think so i do wing chun with Sifu Austin Goh. i think thay need a better Sifu thats if he is a master tho. witch i dont thing so lol.
These guys have a better chance in the street than those clubs who teach one how to "Pretend" to punch somebody in the stomich wile screaming "Yahhhhhhhhhh!"
Check out Koshiki geer for contact sparing,also Koshiki Tournaments.
I only wish I could find a school like this. All those studying traditional MA for years who've never done some real full-contact sparring need to take note.
Real-world is totally different from forms and theory and even the best students usually degenerate into some form of slapfest fisting swinging in a no-rules , no point-scoring brawl.
I found this out after 3 years of full-time 3 days a week traditional kungfu. Stepped into a ring for the first time with an average KB who kicked my ass
things must prove with facts, challenging each other honorably, who is more good wins and the loser has learned another thing. What kind of martial art is where you do not fight it?
This goes to show how much of a disconnect there is between Wing Chun as it is usually trained and the reality of dealing with someone who fights back. We see some crappy punches and kicks with degrades into standing grappling and ground fighting within a matter of seconds. After the initial clash of arms and legs it becomes an unskilled mess, in which the more aggressive man wins with some clinching and knees or a messy ground and pound.
this is real! that's how you have to train. MANY people say that you should train like that only after you have learned and trained everything in the WT system proficiently, but VERY FEW people actually stick with it that long so this is good. and the hitting while out of the ring was teaching that a fight doesnt stop when you want it to. you have to know that there are no rules on the street and that will happen. very good... i just wish i could do that at my school without lawsuits, haha great
real fights aren't pretty and this is how a real fight would look if WT was actually used... although it wouldnt last that long because there would be no padding but that is how it needs to be trained. haha now if someone in America comes to my school and asks about sparring i can laugh in their face. people in America have grown to be too "soft" and not in a good way. I'm going to find a way to ease into this kind of training with my students
@sombras1981 So you are not a wing tsun fighter? Have you ever studied WT? Have you ever studied any MA? If yes, show us the vid where you like CHuck Norris fuck every oponent with a singl look ;) It would be so inspirational for me, pleeeeeaase
how trained are these people, it looks mostly like scrambled street fight with some mma ground n pound.Goes to show when shit hit fan its the person with the bigger heart that will win.Looks like no great style shown here just kids swinging straight arm punches
In my opinion, no matter what your style, if you're in it for self defense you need to train at least on occasion like this. Some people are only in it for the exercise, tradition, health, and that's fine, I'm largely one of these people, but if you're in it to learn to fight, you gotta fight! Excellent video. What impresses me most is the ferocity they go at it, just what you need to get used to, and also that they're so fit, not even sweating! Brilliant to see.
Did you not read anything I said? They are attemping, but sorry some people are not as good as you. Shows us your real fighting combative skills, under real confrontation. Well, come on.... You may voice your opinion all you would like, but please be brave enough to tell the truth and most importantly, stop lying to yourself. Let them train, you go train, and have a good life.
and i dont see the sense in this fight. Wing tsun goest to eyes throat kidney. and what i see are this guys beating each other on the head. no good wing chun fighter would do that. that would never stop a steroid drug using thug who wants to kill you. Show me how you fix a 90 kg Kolossus on the ground. i d love to see that
Ok, go find a "good" WC fighter willing to get in the ring with someone thats really going to fight back. You watch them throw most, if not all their techniques out the window. Oh yeah, don't ring the bell just because they get knocked down, see what happens next.
I am sorry you fear steriod drug using thugs. I would be worried about the ones who use guns.
And to your comment. Well the sense of wing tsun is tu react like wing tsun. If you can t do it like myself practise. again again and again. Let me put the question in another way show me 1 good wt fighter who just throws his technie out of the window. where would be the sense in learning a martial art if you won t use anyhting?
As i said i have nothing against this students but the trainer is in my opnion careless and should be sewed.
Did you not read anything I said? They are attemping, but sorry some people are not as good as you. Shows us your real fighting combative skills, under real confrontation. Well, come on.... You may voice your opinion all you would like, but please be brave enough to tell the truth and most importantly, stop lying to yourself. Let them train, you go train, and have a good life.
Much can be seen when slowed down, but this is not a WT fight, but rather a discovery of ones growth in true fight circumstances. they train hard in WT, but when in a fight one must forget and only react. They're time will come and they will become better. They train just as you do, trying to make things good in wing tsun with proper technique in controlled environment . What that video shows is them trying to make it work in real combat. Yes, they and us make mistakes.
This trainer is a shame for every Sifu or trainer of wing tsun. They do ellbow attacks in the neck. They can t become better in wt not cause they are bad but cause of their trainer. The can be probably be some good streetbullys.
I don t know why they dont see their stupidity in this fight.
you are right but elbows are really dangerous attacks, especially if you are attacking to the neck. you can paralyze someone instantly. these are just young men, they can paralyze each other with just one blow. beating someone with elbows is cool :) , but you should be more careful while training. Because your opponent is not a real bully, he is your friend.
I understand, but all I can keep thinking is how we allow "children" to play sports, which has much worse track record of injuries. We can't protect people by controlling them, and yes it would be horrible if a serious injury occurred. People take many risk for sheer pleasure, and many people agree or disagree about all of this. The people in these videos feel this is OK, so as you would wish for them to respect your decisions, you may want to do the same?
If the opponent makes a kick, you may want to greet that attack. Unless it is above the waist you don't want to use your hands. The legs may be raised intended to deal with a leg attack.
The fights look very familiar, but nothing like what people expect or think that wing chun should look like. I'm glad to see these guys testing theirselves though
Not bad! Such realistic fights r very good for students to understand the real fighting situation and it helps to develop the fighting spirit. Very good!
@darrellriv This is true, however these guys show no technique and would have been better served with boxing and wrestling, as a regular person who was in good shape could accomplish the same results as thes guys and if it's a good example of wing chun techniques wing chun..... sucks.
@SuperBluepurple you don't understand shit either dude plus i've trained in 6 months under the same system and my sifu who is a personal friend i met in china and i now train and hang out with in sydney has trained for a little over 6 months i can tell you that in the video they are obviously lacking technique but most possibly because they lack the knowledge of technique, there are no bad students just bad teachers. i can guarantee you i am a proficient fighter.
@SuperBluepurple and also i have a friend who has done some training in muay thai and bjj for a little longer than i have but with proper technique and realism in my combat i have easily defeated him. and what he thought was stupid because of the way we execute our punches turned on him and he got hit many times. muay thai and bjj are for people who like to compete and muay thai is barely an art anymore. it's for people that are un intelligent
@SuperBluepurple of course that don't mean muay thai is a bad art al though it lacks a lot. muay thai is highly praised allthough what most people miss is that it's not the art that is superior but rather decent fighters. with WT trained properly anybody could defeat a boxer or wrestler or bjj guy or thai boxer because we learn to adapt to all styles. Adapt or Perish! fight smart not stupid, use as much energy as necessary do not be wasteful learn the way of the warrior.
Wow, I'm usually not the type to make large blanket statements, but...
If you think this bad 'WC/WT' and that its just a brawl, then you are a crap martial artist. You can't fight. Period. This is the first time I've seen WC trained for combat. And damn, it looks good. =D
While I definitely think the's guys are badass, I'd love to go at it with them. It'd be very cool to spar with someone who can use wing chun principals in live training!
Well, then you like when people fight, just not like this? Do you really understand their purpose in doing this? And truly respect what they are attempting to accomplish. Of course, they do not want to hurt each other, but this is no "points" competition. This is as uncontrolled as possible.
Much can be seen when slowed down, but this is not a WT fight, but rather a discovery of ones growth in true fight circumstances. they train hard in WT, but when in a fight one must forget and only react. They're time will come and they will become better.
Das ist nicht Kämpfen !!! Das ist Affengetanze . Wer Trainiert den WT so ? Ich glaub die sollten zum MuhThai , alle Bewegungen waren einfach nur Sinnloses Rumgefuchtel . Realistische Kampfszenario aber man sieht doch gleich Übelste Anfänger und denen gleich die Wichtigsten Grundlagen Falsch beizubringen , na schönen Dank auch . Die sollen mal zu mir , ich nehme es mit jeden von denen auf , so ein paar HAMPELMÄNNER
Kämpf erstmal einen richtigen Kampf, dann wirst du sehen, dass alle "gut" aussehenden Techniken komplett weg sind. Das einzige, was noch zählt, ist treffen und nicht getroffen werden. Glaub mir, ich spreche aus Erfahrung... nach den ersten Kämpfen ist man echt frustiert, wenn man im Nachhinein darüber nachdenkt, welche Techniken man hätte einsetzen können, aber in der Aufregung des Kampfes nicht dran gedacht hat...
Kämpf erstmal einen richtigen Kampf, dann wirst du sehen, das alle "gut" aussehenden Techniken auf einmal weg sind... was noch zählt, ist treffen und getroffen werden. Glaub mir, ich spreche aus Erfahrung. Nach den ersten Kämpfen ist man dann teilweise richtig enttäuscht, wenn man im Nachhinein darüber nachdenkt, was für Techniken man hätte einsetzen können...
This is what fighting looks like why? cuz their actually hitting each other in movement,, forget about technique what this take from wing chun is da principle.... constant foward pressure agresssion getting inside using elbows, knees, take downs and ground fighting.. maybe these guys arent that great but take into acount their young... and much experience with this kind of fighting is whats gonna make em fight good in a real sitiuation
There are people who pay to learn dancing, like clasical or hip-hop, but that's not fighting! If you wanna learn dancing just do it, but you will never be a fighter and you'll never be able to fight.
There are people that pay to learn dancing too, but that's not fighting!!! If you wanna pay to dance, you're free to do it, but you'll never learn real fighting.
Kicking each other when they are already out of the ring and this one guy gets the knee again before he's back in the ring and ready.That's not what it's all about.Someone should slap their trainer all day.. sad... sad
Don't worry, they don't need your pity... They understand exactly what they got them selves into. You should really visit their school and talk to them before you make such comments.
what a pile of shit!!! i do martial arts and this is not wing chun, just morons getting in a ring and beating shit out of each other. Where the hell is balance, striking at key points and technique, load of crap to me!!
So what's the point of practicing all the deflections and pak sao and whatever when none of those stuff will ever be applied in a real fight, as you can see. All there is is repetitive punching?
I see your point. However, I disagree. I think Wing Chun can be applied in the streets if it is trained with realism. I have feeling these guys do not train with realism in their drills. They probably do all the classic drills and then get in the ring and duke it out. There has to be some sort transition. The same is true of boxing. You can't learn all the techniques and then expect to get in the ring to apply them. You have to drill with realism.
looks like gay slap fighting to me..when you "spar" in wing chun..it no longer BECOMES wing chun. Understand that wing chun was NOT created for sport. Thats why wing chun looks so SHITTY in the ring. Which yours does. Stick with chi sao guys. Put down your egos and learn REAL wing chun with nothing to prove.
Why can't wing chun be used in sport? You just remove throat & eye strikes. That's what they did in Hong Kong with Beimo roof top matches. Wing Chun has enough boxing, kicks, knees & elbows to work in the ring. The uppercut, hook, straight punches, chain punches) etc, and more advanced blocking technique than kickboxing or boxing.
Wing Chun is far to complicated to go rounds in the ring and keep its originality intact, but it is designed to deal with a sudden conflict in order to defend your self very effectively. These students in this vid may not be displaying it as others see fit, but they sure are making an effort to make it work. Later, they will become better. They train just as others do, but are not willing to mislead them selves into believing they are as great as they thought, prior to getting in that ring.
mostly I miss the sparring in wt..and thats often the advantage from sportstyles like kickboxen or even thay...but I think this trainig is a good one to make the students fit for the street....FEAR IS OFTEN YOURE ONLY ENEMY
so they are doing this kind of training.. because under pressure every unexperianced wt fighter can forget alla wt.. so as much as you train like this ,as u get expiriance your wt will be correctted and it will work as wt then.. even under high panic and pressure
That could mean; 3 men against 1 guy. There is only one thing that you can do in that situation: Trying to destroy you opponents in as little hits. And everything is allowed. People who think they can come clean in a fight with several other opponents are just ignorant.
Wing-tsun functionallity is to not get beaten up in a street fight. It's not just about the techniques they use, although that's the foundation. It's also about knowing what will happen in a street fight. You think you can come clean in a street fight? Bs. Science teaches us that the aggressors always will choose an weakener opponent.
I've participated in this discussion earlieer. This video is still great. People who are discussing the effencie of this vid/school whatever need to shut their mouths, with al due respect.
this is wing chun at work street fights arent pretty and u send the guy down as fast as possible trust me if u fought these guys u would be panicking cuz wing chun is like 9 punches in a row into the face and trust me u would be backing up for sure.
everyone dis-ing this clip is so stupid. You think that in a real situation is meant to be perfect technique. You only meant to use the priciples behind that technique. Techniques like Chi-sao and Lat-sao are only meant to be used to feel your opponent. You dont actually fight like that. Even the priciple of footwork. It doesn't have to be perfect when you fight. It's just for center-of-gravity, attack, defense etc
I agree with "TapMeOut. Chashek there's no such thing as "Street Fighting-esque" techniques. There's fighting full stop. Whether it be in the street or in the club there's no difference!
No form, no technique... any mma guys can destroy them, period... shoot to the leg, and clean slam them. if they are mounted like they seem to all do, just submit them with bjj...
Shoot & takedowns can be dodged. Learn anti-takedown strategy. I remember watching Yoshida (judo champion) v Crocop. Yoshida was totally unable to submit crocop, yoshida got destroyed with leg kicks. Now, what if the wing chun fighter rushes you first? The trick is NOT to stand there waiting to be crash tackled.
Incredible, the fact that it actually looked like Wing Chun and was against 100% resisting opponents was mind blowing and impressive, sure their technique wasn't the greatest but they made their training work against a resisting opponent which is the key. ALL WING CHUN SCHOOLS should watch this video as a lesson to realistic combat, since the MAJORITY of Wing Chun teachers and students are theory based and "think" their stuff works, these guys PROVED their stuff works and they should be proud!
Function transcends form! It's funny but when all martial artists (whatever style practiced) express themselves freely they all look as though they have no style! Odd that?
well, no... it really depends on the level at which they practice their style. most people, I think, would revert to street fighting-esque techniques in an actual fight; but someone who's trained hard in a style or styles *with sparring* would use that style - it's all about what you've trained yourself to do
Its messy- just the way a real full contact fight is. Anyone who thinks they are going to look pretty-keep form- and keep a flat footed stance- or trains at half contact, or predictable set up forms has no idea. Good vid-they are training just they way a real street fight would be like.
this is wing chun at work man it doesnt have to be flashy in a street fight ur trying to stay alive. and it looks this way cuz both sides have the same training and if one of those guys fought a random guy off the street with no training it would be pretty one sided
True, it doesn't need to be flashy. But the reason for practicing wing chun or any martial art is to avoid swinging your limbs around without control or structure. This video clip definitely shows people fighting, but what part of that fighting relates to wing chun concepts? It looks to me like every wing chun theory is being violated here.
Yes, under pressure these guys have completely lost their structure. So in that case they are not applying wing chun theory to their fighting. What is wing chun theory? Staying close. Sticking to your opponent. Economy of movement. Attack the centerline. I'm not seeing these concepts in this video.
yes they are applying some wing chun philosophies they are keeping elbow in such and such but this is fihting it doesnt always need to follow strict philosophies bruce lee said do what works for u and these guys are doing that.
I hear what you're saying - I guess they're trying to simulate a 'real' street situation. Under those circumstances you'd be hard pressed to maintain form...ages ago I had to use it in a street situation and believe me, a lot of stuff you think you know goes out of the window in those few seconds-maybe I'm not training hard enough ;o) Maybe I haven't watched the video enough times? All the best...
What you say can be credited, but that is only opinion. Because we all have an idea of what something should be. I've studied with these people, and have far more then this small controversial video to credit their abilities and training methods. This video is hard for most to accept, and for many it just isn't right for them. But again they make much Wing Tsun here, more then I would believe many can really perform under the same situation.
Take a look at (Boxing), a very natural fighting art form, still one who learns it may not be able to perform correctly, at least to others standards. Yet, that may vary just because of the person judging it. Although boxing may be one of the simplest forms of fight, the professional's still make mistakes or (make it look bad).
That training has to be applauded! They were actually trying to apply their art in a free expressive way. I don't see how the gloves and headgear benefit the experience though. With proper training black eyes; fat lips and bruises are par for the course!
OMG. that was alot of pointless and skilless fighting. What were they trained in again? because its just retarded. Like everyone else has being saying theres no technique, no timing, no ring control. And the most stupid thing is that i actually watch it.
Shitty fighting, anyone with two hours of training in boxing can beat any of theese retards...It´s okay it´s wing-chun, but seems their first lesson....
A martial art which isn't even good enough to postpone it's self. Perhaps it's poor editing, but each fight being on the ground within seconds would seem to say that wt/wc is no good for anything but falling over (and Aikido already has that honor). Where's the grace? Where's the defense? Where's the ability to gain space and time. Not everyone wants a fall down hissy fit cat fight with the occasional big hit.
this is why a boxer wouldent stand a chance with a wing chun pro these are children and teens imagen how much contorol a pro would have and how fast they can get in to thir aponent mad this sport was man bye a woman and developed through a man elbows head buts knees shin they all been added its like a whole different ball game to other sports
it's called stupid fighting.. i cant believe some of the commentators who's taking this "stupid fighting" serious.. theres no technique, no timing, no ring control..just punch fast and kick fast and do whatever.. = stupid fighting.
Too much trying to hurt the other guy, too little technique. The ground/submission element was limited to punches and elbows to the top and back of the head.
It looks more like cage rage to me and these guys seem to want to inflict lots of damage on each other which i find interesting if they do belong to the same club.
Agree with the comments re strikes to back of the neck.
It is realistic to a point where they are certainly pressure testing but to the extreme in my opinion.
where is the WT? these guys are violent enough, and it mostly looks like a street fight, but there was a lot of boxing, and jujitsu reversal opportunities.
Where is footwork of wing chun?Guys half wing chun is learn to walk!This is like mma with some chain punches.No way to become better training this way.Always would be a catfight
dlvt79 1 week ago
Ma che minchia stanno facendo questi???? O.o
Dylan10Dog 1 month ago
good stuff
fightermanizdebest 2 months ago
One thing is to practice hard another is to practice in reckless fashion.
To allow those elbows to the back of the head and spine is asking for disaster. Hope your liability insurance is paid up
SEWTC 8 months ago
hard training but...hate those fuck`n ellbows to the spine and to the back off the head. Dumb idiots if the do this to eachother at training.
oooster100 8 months ago
I see no point of Wing Tsun. These guys would have been better off joining an MMA club. At least they would have been trained properly by real fighters.
iApna 9 months ago
@iApna you are ridiculously stupid
soon2besoldier 1 month ago
@soon2besoldier - You obviously haven't been paying close attention to the evolution of true combat training over the past 20 years.
iApna 4 weeks ago
the level of contact is good but some of the repeated stomps and knees and the seeming refusal to respect unconsciousness or surrender seems like it may be more in the vein of teaching senior students to be sadistic instead of training junior students to fight. What is the context of this - is it a test, a tournament, or routine?
johnnycache 1 year ago
Best WT-Sparring ever - don't talk, just do it!
victorvonhase 1 year ago
u try that wingshun shit on me u will get power bombed
pimppappi702 1 year ago
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Dissatisfying for people that expect Hong Kong-style choreographed duels, but this is real Wing Tsun.
It's all about that close range blitz.
Cold12345 1 year ago
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Cold12345 1 year ago
these guys may not be doing 100% wingtsun, or even close to it, but they will be more ready when it comes to an actual fight. anybody who thinks they can always do perfect technique in a real fight has never been in a real fight. martial arts has to be adapted to the situation, and that is what these guys are doing. there is a great video of 2 kung fu master fighting each other. after all those years of practicing, when it came to a real fight, all they did was just slap and run.
remshot1998 1 year ago
That's not Wing Chun, just few savage people fighthing violencely! Stupid....
OysterKing78 1 year ago
This is what all WT guys should do to gain fighting experience! Not only drills in clubs...my opinion...
MrSavoro2 1 year ago
wing chung is weak..im an ex boxer and ill instantly drop anyone who comes at me with some gay arm punching like that
MickMan211 1 year ago
is it wing tsun?
this is a thing that we can call semi-sreetfight and semi-taibox =)
haha...
bullshit.
these could be kicked easily...
dilemmamuptelasi 1 year ago
Trained or not, this is what most real street fights look like.
XenoPredator 1 year ago
really thats wing chun???? na i dont think so i do wing chun with Sifu Austin Goh. i think thay need a better Sifu thats if he is a master tho. witch i dont thing so lol.
asniperx 1 year ago
These guys have a better chance in the street than those clubs who teach one how to "Pretend" to punch somebody in the stomich wile screaming "Yahhhhhhhhhh!"
Check out Koshiki geer for contact sparing,also Koshiki Tournaments.
BigJ7922 1 year ago
I only wish I could find a school like this. All those studying traditional MA for years who've never done some real full-contact sparring need to take note.
Real-world is totally different from forms and theory and even the best students usually degenerate into some form of slapfest fisting swinging in a no-rules , no point-scoring brawl.
I found this out after 3 years of full-time 3 days a week traditional kungfu. Stepped into a ring for the first time with an average KB who kicked my ass
kufudo 2 years ago
disgrace for wing chun :(
gameofdeath4288 2 years ago
so funny, what kind of wing chun was it? They were not doing wing chun. They were just acting like fighters from wild forest...LOL!
Was it what they learned for Leung Ting ? So humorous!!!!
gameofdeath4288 2 years ago
if this realy is wing tsun it must be there first week i bearly see anyone use the centre line or any thing else iv been thought in wing tsun
bedboundmonkey 2 years ago
БОКСА НА НИХ НЕТ...!!!
AREY1000 2 years ago
not wing chun just meth addicts
slaveofawal 2 years ago
Affen! Hat nichts mit Wt zu tun. Affen!!!!!!
WtGSX87 2 years ago
They can't fight, they're just animals
KrystoMJ 2 years ago
This is definitely no WT,this ist just shit.
A good WT Guy would beat the shit out of this guys.
Boggyman3223 2 years ago
@Boggyman3223 blablablablabla
things must prove with facts, challenging each other honorably, who is more good wins and the loser has learned another thing. What kind of martial art is where you do not fight it?
LordKranio 1 year ago
what a complete mess!!!!
chumkui999 2 years ago 3
this is just too bad..
HermesDo 2 years ago
This goes to show how much of a disconnect there is between Wing Chun as it is usually trained and the reality of dealing with someone who fights back. We see some crappy punches and kicks with degrades into standing grappling and ground fighting within a matter of seconds. After the initial clash of arms and legs it becomes an unskilled mess, in which the more aggressive man wins with some clinching and knees or a messy ground and pound.
Boxing, Muay Thai, Judo, Wrestling, BJJ. Done.
quagmire1807 2 years ago 2
no balance, no aim; chainpunch slapfest.
Yakshinian 2 years ago 2
damn good video... for all wing chun haters out there... crazy russians, respect. Does anybody know where i can find gear like that in Bulgaria?
jeronimo196 2 years ago
И это блин не вин чун. А уличная драка.
babazyaka 2 years ago
Пиздец... Я бы хотел с вами побоксировать.
babazyaka 2 years ago
wing chun ownz.
BestSroPLayer 2 years ago
Que lixo...se isso é Wing Tsun, é uma merda!!!
FabianoCB 2 years ago
i think 2/3 of your time you should train tecnics
1/3 sparring like this
tiriska 3 years ago 2
Who are these morons?
juhtuhb1 3 years ago
check out 'wing chun true disciple' on youtube
jaiharman1 3 years ago
Hard))And nice)
Realy close 2 real combat.)
А где это?)
gizzmozzium 3 years ago
this is real! that's how you have to train. MANY people say that you should train like that only after you have learned and trained everything in the WT system proficiently, but VERY FEW people actually stick with it that long so this is good. and the hitting while out of the ring was teaching that a fight doesnt stop when you want it to. you have to know that there are no rules on the street and that will happen. very good... i just wish i could do that at my school without lawsuits, haha great
Wingtsuninpo 3 years ago
real fights aren't pretty and this is how a real fight would look if WT was actually used... although it wouldnt last that long because there would be no padding but that is how it needs to be trained. haha now if someone in America comes to my school and asks about sparring i can laugh in their face. people in America have grown to be too "soft" and not in a good way. I'm going to find a way to ease into this kind of training with my students
Wingtsuninpo 3 years ago
Yes, many people judge hypocritically. Or just think they should choose how safe others should train...Either way, good comment.
This school is a great, and their SiFu, Dmitri is an excellent person of good values and crafty skills. Good Gung Fu
Fastlan3 2 years ago
i can do that and dont kwnow WT...
sombras1981 3 years ago 3
@sombras1981 show us
fizika1 1 year ago
@fizika1 i dont know how to do WT as bad as that guys... I dont see WT in that vid.
sombras1981 1 year ago
@sombras1981 So you are not a wing tsun fighter? Have you ever studied WT? Have you ever studied any MA? If yes, show us the vid where you like CHuck Norris fuck every oponent with a singl look ;) It would be so inspirational for me, pleeeeeaase
fizika1 1 year ago
how trained are these people, it looks mostly like scrambled street fight with some mma ground n pound.Goes to show when shit hit fan its the person with the bigger heart that will win.Looks like no great style shown here just kids swinging straight arm punches
kalesm74 3 years ago
I never ever underestemate my oponent even though i know he doesnt practise martial arts beforehgand
ossie19681 3 years ago
In my opinion, no matter what your style, if you're in it for self defense you need to train at least on occasion like this. Some people are only in it for the exercise, tradition, health, and that's fine, I'm largely one of these people, but if you're in it to learn to fight, you gotta fight! Excellent video. What impresses me most is the ferocity they go at it, just what you need to get used to, and also that they're so fit, not even sweating! Brilliant to see.
Shindai 3 years ago
Great sparring sessions! Without sparring it's only theory, KUDOS to the school. Be like water my friends....
kissoct666 3 years ago
c koi cette merde???
prowrestler18 3 years ago
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12345aqd 3 years ago
i like this video ...it is one of my favorites...and i think this trainig really avoids to get fucked up on street
fortuner22 3 years ago 2
WOW!!!
Stratiotis91 3 years ago
Did you not read anything I said? They are attemping, but sorry some people are not as good as you. Shows us your real fighting combative skills, under real confrontation. Well, come on.... You may voice your opinion all you would like, but please be brave enough to tell the truth and most importantly, stop lying to yourself. Let them train, you go train, and have a good life.
Fastlan3 3 years ago
and i dont see the sense in this fight. Wing tsun goest to eyes throat kidney. and what i see are this guys beating each other on the head. no good wing chun fighter would do that. that would never stop a steroid drug using thug who wants to kill you. Show me how you fix a 90 kg Kolossus on the ground. i d love to see that
wernonwar 3 years ago
Ok, go find a "good" WC fighter willing to get in the ring with someone thats really going to fight back. You watch them throw most, if not all their techniques out the window. Oh yeah, don't ring the bell just because they get knocked down, see what happens next.
I am sorry you fear steriod drug using thugs. I would be worried about the ones who use guns.
Fastlan3 3 years ago
And to your comment. Well the sense of wing tsun is tu react like wing tsun. If you can t do it like myself practise. again again and again. Let me put the question in another way show me 1 good wt fighter who just throws his technie out of the window. where would be the sense in learning a martial art if you won t use anyhting?
As i said i have nothing against this students but the trainer is in my opnion careless and should be sewed.
wernonwar 3 years ago
Did you not read anything I said? They are attemping, but sorry some people are not as good as you. Shows us your real fighting combative skills, under real confrontation. Well, come on.... You may voice your opinion all you would like, but please be brave enough to tell the truth and most importantly, stop lying to yourself. Let them train, you go train, and have a good life.
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Fastlan3 3 years ago
I m not learning wt for long. but what i know is that you should not kick for contact to your opponent. this is not wt this is more like street fight
wernonwar 3 years ago
Much can be seen when slowed down, but this is not a WT fight, but rather a discovery of ones growth in true fight circumstances. they train hard in WT, but when in a fight one must forget and only react. They're time will come and they will become better. They train just as you do, trying to make things good in wing tsun with proper technique in controlled environment . What that video shows is them trying to make it work in real combat. Yes, they and us make mistakes.
Fastlan3 3 years ago 2
This trainer is a shame for every Sifu or trainer of wing tsun. They do ellbow attacks in the neck. They can t become better in wt not cause they are bad but cause of their trainer. The can be probably be some good streetbullys.
I don t know why they dont see their stupidity in this fight.
wernonwar 3 years ago
Streetbullys, lol. You have know idea what kind of people they are, and it just goes to show how unrealiable your judgment is.
As bad as the elbows to the neck are, it is a very good skill they have made instinctive.
Fastlan3 3 years ago
you are right but elbows are really dangerous attacks, especially if you are attacking to the neck. you can paralyze someone instantly. these are just young men, they can paralyze each other with just one blow. beating someone with elbows is cool :) , but you should be more careful while training. Because your opponent is not a real bully, he is your friend.
BayKubidikTR 3 years ago
I understand, but all I can keep thinking is how we allow "children" to play sports, which has much worse track record of injuries. We can't protect people by controlling them, and yes it would be horrible if a serious injury occurred. People take many risk for sheer pleasure, and many people agree or disagree about all of this. The people in these videos feel this is OK, so as you would wish for them to respect your decisions, you may want to do the same?
Fastlan3 3 years ago
If the opponent makes a kick, you may want to greet that attack. Unless it is above the waist you don't want to use your hands. The legs may be raised intended to deal with a leg attack.
Fastlan3 3 years ago
The fights look very familiar, but nothing like what people expect or think that wing chun should look like. I'm glad to see these guys testing theirselves though
jamesecash 3 years ago 3
This is how every Wing Chun school should be. Fuck Chi Sao for 45 minutes.
Technocian 3 years ago
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wing tsun is so damn gay
endleofan 3 years ago
Not bad! Such realistic fights r very good for students to understand the real fighting situation and it helps to develop the fighting spirit. Very good!
mougiman 3 years ago 15
@mougiman and develop alzhaimer when 40
criceto 1 year ago
perfect!
veaxer 3 years ago
This is a REAL BIG SHIT!!!
Where is the wing chun fight?This is a stupid fight BULLSHIT!
Bujinganga 3 years ago
that shit is reckless and stupid.
itsanalexfish 4 years ago
a real fight is reckless,not pretty and graceful.
darrellriv 3 years ago 9
@darrellriv This is true, however these guys show no technique and would have been better served with boxing and wrestling, as a regular person who was in good shape could accomplish the same results as thes guys and if it's a good example of wing chun techniques wing chun..... sucks.
SuperBluepurple 11 months ago
@SuperBluepurple you don't understand shit either dude plus i've trained in 6 months under the same system and my sifu who is a personal friend i met in china and i now train and hang out with in sydney has trained for a little over 6 months i can tell you that in the video they are obviously lacking technique but most possibly because they lack the knowledge of technique, there are no bad students just bad teachers. i can guarantee you i am a proficient fighter.
soon2besoldier 1 month ago
@SuperBluepurple and also i have a friend who has done some training in muay thai and bjj for a little longer than i have but with proper technique and realism in my combat i have easily defeated him. and what he thought was stupid because of the way we execute our punches turned on him and he got hit many times. muay thai and bjj are for people who like to compete and muay thai is barely an art anymore. it's for people that are un intelligent
soon2besoldier 1 month ago
@SuperBluepurple of course that don't mean muay thai is a bad art al though it lacks a lot. muay thai is highly praised allthough what most people miss is that it's not the art that is superior but rather decent fighters. with WT trained properly anybody could defeat a boxer or wrestler or bjj guy or thai boxer because we learn to adapt to all styles. Adapt or Perish! fight smart not stupid, use as much energy as necessary do not be wasteful learn the way of the warrior.
soon2besoldier 1 month ago
XXPaniintodustXX hat da total recht
alles funktioniert bei weitem nicht
fortuner22 4 years ago
love to see these guys fight MMA
gunfighter964 4 years ago
koong sao, is another video of their's.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
Nice use of traping every thing . I think the elbows to the top of spine a bit dodgy.
Drzacksmith 4 years ago
rules are No strikes to the eyes or throat, also no direct strikes to the spine. but very good instintive move anyhow.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
wow this is amazing. hard training. my master wont let us do this shit because you could die.
friedcrispy 4 years ago
lol, but they have been doing this for some time, and no death nor serious injuries have occurred.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
Wow, I'm usually not the type to make large blanket statements, but...
If you think this bad 'WC/WT' and that its just a brawl, then you are a crap martial artist. You can't fight. Period. This is the first time I've seen WC trained for combat. And damn, it looks good. =D
LOLatMMA 4 years ago 2
Your absolutely right. I've been doing combat martial arts for years & I still wouldn't want to get into a street fight with any of these guys.
DaWeedlord 4 years ago
While I definitely think the's guys are badass, I'd love to go at it with them. It'd be very cool to spar with someone who can use wing chun principals in live training!
LOLatMMA 4 years ago 2
Of course they will become better, but know, I don't like that what I have seen.
Lithuanianrepublic 4 years ago
Well, then you like when people fight, just not like this? Do you really understand their purpose in doing this? And truly respect what they are attempting to accomplish. Of course, they do not want to hurt each other, but this is no "points" competition. This is as uncontrolled as possible.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
WT? I saw a lot pucnhes, but where is wt principes?heh...if they fight with real wing tsun fighter, they couldn't do it like this.
Lithuanianrepublic 4 years ago
Much can be seen when slowed down, but this is not a WT fight, but rather a discovery of ones growth in true fight circumstances. they train hard in WT, but when in a fight one must forget and only react. They're time will come and they will become better.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
how old are theses guys? they look like teenagers!
kami97kaze 4 years ago
because they are, teenagers.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
Das ist nicht Kämpfen !!! Das ist Affengetanze . Wer Trainiert den WT so ? Ich glaub die sollten zum MuhThai , alle Bewegungen waren einfach nur Sinnloses Rumgefuchtel . Realistische Kampfszenario aber man sieht doch gleich Übelste Anfänger und denen gleich die Wichtigsten Grundlagen Falsch beizubringen , na schönen Dank auch . Die sollen mal zu mir , ich nehme es mit jeden von denen auf , so ein paar HAMPELMÄNNER
sabrinahexhex 4 years ago
Kämpf erstmal einen richtigen Kampf, dann wirst du sehen, dass alle "gut" aussehenden Techniken komplett weg sind. Das einzige, was noch zählt, ist treffen und nicht getroffen werden. Glaub mir, ich spreche aus Erfahrung... nach den ersten Kämpfen ist man echt frustiert, wenn man im Nachhinein darüber nachdenkt, welche Techniken man hätte einsetzen können, aber in der Aufregung des Kampfes nicht dran gedacht hat...
XXPaniintodustXX 4 years ago
Kämpf erstmal einen richtigen Kampf, dann wirst du sehen, das alle "gut" aussehenden Techniken auf einmal weg sind... was noch zählt, ist treffen und getroffen werden. Glaub mir, ich spreche aus Erfahrung. Nach den ersten Kämpfen ist man dann teilweise richtig enttäuscht, wenn man im Nachhinein darüber nachdenkt, was für Techniken man hätte einsetzen können...
XXPaniintodustXX 4 years ago
This is what fighting looks like why? cuz their actually hitting each other in movement,, forget about technique what this take from wing chun is da principle.... constant foward pressure agresssion getting inside using elbows, knees, take downs and ground fighting.. maybe these guys arent that great but take into acount their young... and much experience with this kind of fighting is whats gonna make em fight good in a real sitiuation
liftdemuphigh 4 years ago 2
yeah thats good thats real fight thats the only good old way you learn
BestSroPLayer 4 years ago 3
There are people who pay to learn dancing, like clasical or hip-hop, but that's not fighting! If you wanna learn dancing just do it, but you will never be a fighter and you'll never be able to fight.
V4N3X 4 years ago 2
That's street fighting like anyone would do,
no technic.
And people are payin lot money to learn that o.O
jonnyg3000 4 years ago
There are people that pay to learn dancing too, but that's not fighting!!! If you wanna pay to dance, you're free to do it, but you'll never learn real fighting.
V4N3X 4 years ago
pathetic
Rainmanontour 4 years ago
Hi, George.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
I feel sorry for this kids..
Kicking each other when they are already out of the ring and this one guy gets the knee again before he's back in the ring and ready.That's not what it's all about.Someone should slap their trainer all day.. sad... sad
kaffeekanzler 4 years ago
Don't worry, they don't need your pity... They understand exactly what they got them selves into. You should really visit their school and talk to them before you make such comments.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
what a pile of shit!!! i do martial arts and this is not wing chun, just morons getting in a ring and beating shit out of each other. Where the hell is balance, striking at key points and technique, load of crap to me!!
Az1066 4 years ago
well, just as they did, post a video show your greatness!
Fastlan3 4 years ago
temazo
cosmocanario2 4 years ago
So what's the point of practicing all the deflections and pak sao and whatever when none of those stuff will ever be applied in a real fight, as you can see. All there is is repetitive punching?
junlueZ 4 years ago
Ｉtotally agree with you!!! That thoughts has been bothered me for a long time....Yea..where is the KunFu..?
jimx3345 4 years ago
I see your point. However, I disagree. I think Wing Chun can be applied in the streets if it is trained with realism. I have feeling these guys do not train with realism in their drills. They probably do all the classic drills and then get in the ring and duke it out. There has to be some sort transition. The same is true of boxing. You can't learn all the techniques and then expect to get in the ring to apply them. You have to drill with realism.
awhite25 4 years ago 2
on a serious level, there are blocks in other arts, take mauy tai, I just watch a match, and saw very little real blocking effort made.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
Sorry,,,,not much wing chun here! Poor stances, high center of gravity and no seeking the bridge.
sirzuke 4 years ago
looks like gay slap fighting to me..when you "spar" in wing chun..it no longer BECOMES wing chun. Understand that wing chun was NOT created for sport. Thats why wing chun looks so SHITTY in the ring. Which yours does. Stick with chi sao guys. Put down your egos and learn REAL wing chun with nothing to prove.
sam4freedom74 4 years ago
how many fights have you been in. none I presume or you wouldnt talk silly like that.
Real fighting looks nothing like those drills you like
jejo68 4 years ago
I am not talking DRILLS dipshit. And yes, I have used wing chun in a real situation. It lasted 6 seconds.
sam4freedom74 4 years ago
Why can't wing chun be used in sport? You just remove throat & eye strikes. That's what they did in Hong Kong with Beimo roof top matches. Wing Chun has enough boxing, kicks, knees & elbows to work in the ring. The uppercut, hook, straight punches, chain punches) etc, and more advanced blocking technique than kickboxing or boxing.
ahay321 4 years ago
Wing Chun is far to complicated to go rounds in the ring and keep its originality intact, but it is designed to deal with a sudden conflict in order to defend your self very effectively. These students in this vid may not be displaying it as others see fit, but they sure are making an effort to make it work. Later, they will become better. They train just as others do, but are not willing to mislead them selves into believing they are as great as they thought, prior to getting in that ring.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
thats old goood fighting with a lillte bit wing tsun but this guys are not bad ; )
BestSroPLayer 4 years ago
mostly I miss the sparring in wt..and thats often the advantage from sportstyles like kickboxen or even thay...but I think this trainig is a good one to make the students fit for the street....FEAR IS OFTEN YOURE ONLY ENEMY
fortuner22 4 years ago
so they are doing this kind of training.. because under pressure every unexperianced wt fighter can forget alla wt.. so as much as you train like this ,as u get expiriance your wt will be correctted and it will work as wt then.. even under high panic and pressure
sihingalkan 4 years ago
That could mean; 3 men against 1 guy. There is only one thing that you can do in that situation: Trying to destroy you opponents in as little hits. And everything is allowed. People who think they can come clean in a fight with several other opponents are just ignorant.
Feelfreetosayhi 4 years ago
Wing-tsun functionallity is to not get beaten up in a street fight. It's not just about the techniques they use, although that's the foundation. It's also about knowing what will happen in a street fight. You think you can come clean in a street fight? Bs. Science teaches us that the aggressors always will choose an weakener opponent.
Feelfreetosayhi 4 years ago
I've participated in this discussion earlieer. This video is still great. People who are discussing the effencie of this vid/school whatever need to shut their mouths, with al due respect.
Feelfreetosayhi 4 years ago
this is wing chun at work street fights arent pretty and u send the guy down as fast as possible trust me if u fought these guys u would be panicking cuz wing chun is like 9 punches in a row into the face and trust me u would be backing up for sure.
heckald 4 years ago
everyone dis-ing this clip is so stupid. You think that in a real situation is meant to be perfect technique. You only meant to use the priciples behind that technique. Techniques like Chi-sao and Lat-sao are only meant to be used to feel your opponent. You dont actually fight like that. Even the priciple of footwork. It doesn't have to be perfect when you fight. It's just for center-of-gravity, attack, defense etc
Gollywog 4 years ago
I agree with "TapMeOut. Chashek there's no such thing as "Street Fighting-esque" techniques. There's fighting full stop. Whether it be in the street or in the club there's no difference!
mazorblock 4 years ago
No form, no technique... any mma guys can destroy them, period... shoot to the leg, and clean slam them. if they are mounted like they seem to all do, just submit them with bjj...
malek24 4 years ago
Shoot & takedowns can be dodged. Learn anti-takedown strategy. I remember watching Yoshida (judo champion) v Crocop. Yoshida was totally unable to submit crocop, yoshida got destroyed with leg kicks. Now, what if the wing chun fighter rushes you first? The trick is NOT to stand there waiting to be crash tackled.
ahay321 4 years ago
Incredible, the fact that it actually looked like Wing Chun and was against 100% resisting opponents was mind blowing and impressive, sure their technique wasn't the greatest but they made their training work against a resisting opponent which is the key. ALL WING CHUN SCHOOLS should watch this video as a lesson to realistic combat, since the MAJORITY of Wing Chun teachers and students are theory based and "think" their stuff works, these guys PROVED their stuff works and they should be proud!
TapMeOut 4 years ago
Function transcends form! It's funny but when all martial artists (whatever style practiced) express themselves freely they all look as though they have no style! Odd that?
mazorblock 4 years ago
well, no... it really depends on the level at which they practice their style. most people, I think, would revert to street fighting-esque techniques in an actual fight; but someone who's trained hard in a style or styles *with sparring* would use that style - it's all about what you've trained yourself to do
chashek 4 years ago
Its messy- just the way a real full contact fight is. Anyone who thinks they are going to look pretty-keep form- and keep a flat footed stance- or trains at half contact, or predictable set up forms has no idea. Good vid-they are training just they way a real street fight would be like.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
this isnt wing chun at all
Seikima 4 years ago
It isnt Ving Tsun!
Lol!
jpgomes 4 years ago
I hope no one thinks that this is wing chun, or any display of trained martial arts for that matter. Pathetic.
eccoboy 4 years ago
this is wing chun at work man it doesnt have to be flashy in a street fight ur trying to stay alive. and it looks this way cuz both sides have the same training and if one of those guys fought a random guy off the street with no training it would be pretty one sided
heckald 4 years ago
True, it doesn't need to be flashy. But the reason for practicing wing chun or any martial art is to avoid swinging your limbs around without control or structure. This video clip definitely shows people fighting, but what part of that fighting relates to wing chun concepts? It looks to me like every wing chun theory is being violated here.
eccoboy 4 years ago
yea but this is what happens when u are under pressure and eventually they will get better at thinking clearer
heckald 4 years ago
Yes, under pressure these guys have completely lost their structure. So in that case they are not applying wing chun theory to their fighting. What is wing chun theory? Staying close. Sticking to your opponent. Economy of movement. Attack the centerline. I'm not seeing these concepts in this video.
eccoboy 4 years ago
yes they are applying some wing chun philosophies they are keeping elbow in such and such but this is fihting it doesnt always need to follow strict philosophies bruce lee said do what works for u and these guys are doing that.
heckald 4 years ago
eccoboy, they are making the attemp. and yes I can see wing chun, just not as clean as you may like it.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
I hear what you're saying - I guess they're trying to simulate a 'real' street situation. Under those circumstances you'd be hard pressed to maintain form...ages ago I had to use it in a street situation and believe me, a lot of stuff you think you know goes out of the window in those few seconds-maybe I'm not training hard enough ;o) Maybe I haven't watched the video enough times? All the best...
DJKaija 4 years ago
Heckald has the right idea. "eventually they will get better at thinking clearer".
Fastlan3 4 years ago
What you say can be credited, but that is only opinion. Because we all have an idea of what something should be. I've studied with these people, and have far more then this small controversial video to credit their abilities and training methods. This video is hard for most to accept, and for many it just isn't right for them. But again they make much Wing Tsun here, more then I would believe many can really perform under the same situation.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
Take a look at (Boxing), a very natural fighting art form, still one who learns it may not be able to perform correctly, at least to others standards. Yet, that may vary just because of the person judging it. Although boxing may be one of the simplest forms of fight, the professional's still make mistakes or (make it look bad).
Fastlan3 4 years ago
Wow! Some actual sparring from the WT people. Not great, but I applaud actually making an effort. It's more than most WT schools give!
USArmyBJJ 4 years ago
explain that to the boss on monday morning! whats up with protecting your face maybe you are just that ugly you dont care.
dangermouseoo1 4 years ago
That training has to be applauded! They were actually trying to apply their art in a free expressive way. I don't see how the gloves and headgear benefit the experience though. With proper training black eyes; fat lips and bruises are par for the course!
mazorblock 4 years ago
That wasso GAY.... that was just basically FC with head gear.. No point!
408BAYAREABOSS 4 years ago
OMG. that was alot of pointless and skilless fighting. What were they trained in again? because its just retarded. Like everyone else has being saying theres no technique, no timing, no ring control. And the most stupid thing is that i actually watch it.
fightersblue 4 years ago
you watch too many movies, and probably conduct your self in a fight like you were scoring points.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
well do I really hve to learn to fight like that?? NO, I just close my eyes and hit my opponent as if was in kindergarden...
peter9style 4 years ago
Shitty fighting, anyone with two hours of training in boxing can beat any of theese retards...It´s okay it´s wing-chun, but seems their first lesson....
chico26getafe 4 years ago
I've seen boxers fight these same people, in fact one of the people which doesn't appear in this video used to be a boxer.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
That is not "okay Wing Chun', that is appauling Wing Chun.
06FaitH777 4 years ago
fucking bunch of retards
Miyagi22 4 years ago
Wow, you're real cool! No real, you are SO COOL!!
I CAN'T GET AROUND HOW COOL YOU ARE!!!!!!! OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!! I was wrong, you're the retard.
Fastlan3 4 years ago
totospirit let me guess...
u r a mma hero who bashes wing tsun and u own all those "pussies" in 1 sec!
Michielos23 4 years ago
this style sucks ass. Looks like a bunch of retards tryin there luck at mma. pussies with those helms if you ask me 2
totospirits 4 years ago
This is total shit.
What a disgrace to the system.
I bet the Teacher is an unknown in the martial real, cause real teachers wouldnt allow thier students to go soo off track.
Leung Ting is a great man. Its a shame these idiots let him down.
Where's this school? Ive been training in wing chun for over 15yrs, with great teachers that have thier history in the family tree.
I'd like to visit this school. Authentic wing chun isnt being displayed there.
RaZaRLiOnZ 4 years ago
A martial art which isn't even good enough to postpone it's self. Perhaps it's poor editing, but each fight being on the ground within seconds would seem to say that wt/wc is no good for anything but falling over (and Aikido already has that honor). Where's the grace? Where's the defense? Where's the ability to gain space and time. Not everyone wants a fall down hissy fit cat fight with the occasional big hit.
quietthomas 4 years ago
this is why a boxer wouldent stand a chance with a wing chun pro these are children and teens imagen how much contorol a pro would have and how fast they can get in to thir aponent mad this sport was man bye a woman and developed through a man elbows head buts knees shin they all been added its like a whole different ball game to other sports
jimbob202019 4 years ago
it's called stupid fighting.. i cant believe some of the commentators who's taking this "stupid fighting" serious.. theres no technique, no timing, no ring control..just punch fast and kick fast and do whatever.. = stupid fighting.
senseigump 4 years ago
they fight ok and this is a WT club.
I think these guys are monsters if they use theyre weight to the right sight and a bit more technique!
Michielos23 4 years ago
where is this club?
total fucking joke
SHITBAGS69 4 years ago
Too much trying to hurt the other guy, too little technique. The ground/submission element was limited to punches and elbows to the top and back of the head.
flatnerd 4 years ago
are these guys from the same club?
It looks more like cage rage to me and these guys seem to want to inflict lots of damage on each other which i find interesting if they do belong to the same club.
Agree with the comments re strikes to back of the neck.
It is realistic to a point where they are certainly pressure testing but to the extreme in my opinion.
porcaro1963 4 years ago
hardly any wc technique, would call it more mma/shooto
asdfgasfasdfasdf 4 years ago
where is the WT? these guys are violent enough, and it mostly looks like a street fight, but there was a lot of boxing, and jujitsu reversal opportunities.
im just saying
kinokid 4 years ago