Tupac and Ghandi

[BERNARDO7I2]

who the fuck is tupac?

[eazydee415]

Rip to the Pharoah 2pac the real revolutionary

Fuck ghandi how dare u put him next to Tupac Shakur

[blackredflagnet]

Ghandi was a racist and pedophile. Im not joking. Do a google search

[dreamdiction]

So this stupid video is silent until 3:20

[mithilag]

Gandhi did make plenty of nasty, racist remarks against the African people. However, he renounced all of that and admitted his faults in his later days. That's what counts. He was not perfect and he understood that.

[9130Resto]

Why are people angry that Gandhi was telling the truth? How he describes black people is pretty much how it is today. They do in fact live primitively and do savage things.

[kashmiripunditadkaul]

racism was the norm back then and gandhi was most certainly a racist in his younger days.But that's not why we love and respect him.his change,that transformation into a great soul from a normal person and his tremendous struggle for independence is why we love.and so do many black people.

don't drive a wedge b/ indians and blacks.

stupid haters.

[Apaveli]

Fuck ghandi

Bhagat Singh real hero

[Ramble1212]

Ghandi was the first black president

[makheyi]

Ghandi was a racists!

[1mrnewman]

Gandhi was a racist. Tupac fought against racism. Gandhi looked down upon blacks and resented the fact that white people bracketed blacks with indians in south africa. Gandhi was nothing but a British puppet. The real freedom fighters of India were Bhagat Singh, Jatin Banerjee, Sri Aurobindo, Lokmanya Tilak etc.

[Screamingdk]

So glad to see the truth finally be told about this fool.Blk people are so easily fooled into believe shit they know nothing about.

[Roshan3L]

gandhi is far faaar more superiour...then you poor blokes of today...cant believe this planet is comming to an end

[niku10]

iam indian if i have to select 1 of these 2 i go for tupac...cuz gandi was a racist

[DeepakPawndU]

@niku10 so racist that he fought for a nation full of brown people against the whites, fuck you dick wad,Now you know why you were't asked to select a president.

[niku10]

@DeepakPawndU go cheak this out realty of gandhi on youtube

[dub006]

@DeepakPawndU fuck gandhi. he was a racist and pedophile. the country of india is racist with its caste system where lighter skinned indians are more favored than darker ones. that shit is backwards. fuck gandhi and all racists pieces of shit like him.

[DeepakPawndU]

@dub006 No fuck you dick heads who pull out the race / color card everytime you don't like a statement, and Gandhi was brown and he fought for the blacks in S.A and Brown people in India, if it weren't for him we'd still be under the british rule, thanks to him we have the 4th most powerful country in the world so fuck and about india... we're all brown, not light or dark skinned, we're all just brown and you sir are fucked in the head.

[dub006]

@DeepakPawndU he did jack shit for blacks in SA.. his whole motivation was for indians. nothing wrong with that but his views were quite racist towards others. and u mean to tell me the indian caste system is not prejudice based on skin color?? explain to me what the caste system entails then... why is it the norm for indians today to lighten their skin? where in bollywood do u find dark skinned lead roles? i live in edison nj, little india.. i know how indian communities think.

[DeepakPawndU]

@dub006 I'm not justifying the "indian" caste system and niether does my country, it was a shitty ideology and it was abolished several years ago, infact in India, every unveristy has to set aside 50% of its seats for religious/ ethnic minorities... yes 50% Now tell me if that hapens in your edison "nj, little india" every country has something they aren't really proud of including your "oh-so-tolerant" America, and don't tell me that racism doesn't happen there.

[kodada3000]

@DeepakPawndU Sorry DeepakDawndU but this is still a prevelant issue in India today, making comparisons with other places does not negate what is happening in India. It doesn't matter that this level of discrimination was supposedly 'abolished', it is still an extremely pervasive issue and turning a blind eye does nothing but allow it to continue.

[TheSomalia154]

GANDHI WAS THE FIRST SLAVE IN THIS EARTH SEE HIS BODY HIS BLACK NIGGER.............ALL INDIAN ARE FORMER SLAVES...........WHITE MASTERS...READ HISTORY....

[ThePunjabdholi123456]

if you guys wanna know real indian freedom fighters learn about bhagat singh and udham singh and mangal pandey

[KoonerProductions]

TUPAC HATEDDDDD GANDHI CUZ GANDHI WAS A RACIST PANCHOD

[ajvarath]

bullshit anglo-saxon propaganda..he was a phedofile,and top knotch racist against africans. the british feared Subash Chandrabose and his freedom fighters..not this semanless scum..

[fktheworld1]

ahahhahah an empire gandi hahhahah LMAOO hahahahaha how can anyone fear this naked baldy skinny hindu....this guy cudent kill a fly....the british left cuz they were defeated by bhagat singh...

[golden454]

You people find a bit of information and try to put historical atrocities into modern situations. Ghandi had a profound change of heart and devoted his life to that change Martin Luther King was his contemporary and utilized his principles. Peace people. Tupac, Martin, and Ghandi are all discussing these issues now. We have to keep moving forward, keep evolving, peacefully.

[jimmynabha]

Gandhi was a real shit

[citi24]

lolllllllllll

[citi24]

fuck gandhi and indira

[langroyia90]

@citi24 love to do that with my baseball bat ,but they are dead . lol

[xxxdieselyyy]

"an empire feared him" HA HA HA HA HA HA!

I like to believe that is true, but in reality, British left because of all the damage they took because of those Luftwaffe raids and V2 rockets, also those IJA attacks in Pacific, which made England more or less bankrupt.

If WW2 didn't happen, the British would've just lol'd at Gandhi.

U also DO realize Gandhi was a BIG TIME communalist (look @ his marriage facilitation tween Feiroz Sha and Indhira Gandhi) and he was anti Black....

[mykole84]

QUE FEO ESTE NEGRO PELON

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

He was a young man at the time. He also used to talk about how he used to beat his wife too at those times. We have no idea what he thinks of people in his old hermit Gandhi stage.The man had very much thoughts of a man from his time.BUT in his olden stage he LIVED WITH UNTOUCHABLES!It was character building.He lived and was against untouchableablity.And wanted discrimiation because of untouchablity to be against the law.

[mykole84]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican. ghandi was a hypocrite and racist. there is no denying it. he hated blacks and he didnt fight for black indian (lower caste and untouchable) either. he fought for upper caste. his non-violence crap led to many muslims killing hindu and hindis not retaliating. just like mlk jr non-violence crap led to black getting hosed by whites and nobody defending themselves. the caste system is a live & well in america as is in india. sad but very true.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@mykole84 there is no difference between low caste and upper caste its been proven genetically and they are not black.And yes when he went to India he did fight for the dalits.Many of his view points changed from young Gandhi in S. Africa to Hermit Gandhi.He lived with the poor and dalits calling them Harijans "childern of god" and wanted the Indian government to banned untouchablity which is today.He was the one that made the Harijans movement to uplift the dalits.

[mykole84]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican. U r wrong india is descended from 2 ancestral populations. the whites and the blacks (only a few pure are left on like the andaman island). the white blood is concentrated higher in the upper caste like around 80% and the lower castes the more concetrated the black blood like 60%. so genetically they are mixed with black and white of course asian type. the blacks were the natives and the whites invaded. this is reality. there are black, white and brown indians.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@mykole84 No this theory is been disprove.This was a theory forced to India from the British.When you say black you mean Africa?No the people in andaman island do not have genetic relation to modern Indias. The genes have been breed out through 10,000s years.

[mykole84]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican. u look at black in an american light as if blacks arent created in asia. india has the largest black population in the world and also the largest white and possibly brown population. u can act like india doesnt see social races but it does. i would also say there r more blacks in asia than anywhere else outside of africa.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@mykole84 In a 2009 study of 132 individuals, 560,000 SNPs in 25 different Indian groups were analyzed, providing strong evidence in support of the notion that modern Indians are a hybrid population descending from two pre-historic, genetically divergent populations, one of which, referred to as the 'Ancestral North Indians', aged 40.000 years and the other, called the 'Ancestral South Indians', aged 60.000 years. Indians today are mutts of these two pre-historic groups.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@mykole84 * H ~ 30% * R1a ~ 20% * R2 ~ 15% * L ~ 10% * NOP ~ 10% (Excluding R) * Other Haplogroups 15%

These are the halogroups found in most Indians, these are extremely rare in Africans.So your claim isnt good.African-Americans are genetically Bantu Africans and some European DNA(Yes,European DNA).You can look at how African Americans sadlly got Euro DNA.

[mykole84]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican. black doesnt mean african so what r u talking about. there are blacks in asia who were the 1st to migrate from africa and as africa has the most diversity in the world & the rest is pretty much found in blacks in asia like papuans, meleanasian, negrito, dravidians, etc. black is global and doesnt just mean african descended. there are native whites in africa especially northern africa. so u must understand many blacks are native 2 asia. u probably think hispanic is a race

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@mykole84 Once again you are wrong. You compare Dravidians to negrito,papuans,etc they are completely to different people and genes. Dravidian isnt a racial term, but a ligustical one(language).Everyone who speaks the Dravidian language is consisted one.Yes its like saying hispanic, everyone who speak the language originating from Hispania(Spanish,Portuguese) is considered Hispanic.Same for Dravidian.You do know what your talking about.

[mykole84]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican. do u know who the andamenese peopel r, they r the natives of india. most indians r descended from those blacks and a white race that came from the north. i used negritos, papuans, meleanasian to show all blacks r not native to africa. dravidian is differnet from hispanic in that hispanic are like americans who r american indian, black, asian, or white or mixed while dravidian are a people who have bin in indian for years.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@mykole84 Yes dont tell be out the andamanese people. They live in the andamanese islands.They are the descendants of the Africans was migrating from India to South East Asia, but they stayed on the island.You dont know what you are talking "white" "black" isnt a race.You want proof? The andamanese people are not even related to Africans in AFRICA!Genetics proves it.Andaman people have genes that are found in Indians to Mongoloid Asians!

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@mykole84 * H ~ 30% * R1a ~ 20% * R2 ~ 15% * L ~ 10% * NOP ~ 10% (Excluding R) * Other Haplogroups 15% these haplogroups are are also among Dravidians. Which isnt found in Africans. And wtf is black,white,brown? These are not races, but closer of the skin, which isnt that helpful in racial classification. I want you to go to google and type in ALBINO INDIAN and compare to an ALBINO AFRICAN.See the difference?

[mykole84]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican. african-americans r not mostly bantu africans. african-americans r mostly west africans and some central african. bantus are mostly in the south and central tending towards the east. so u r wrong. we r not bantu africans. many afro-latinos have bantu blood as portugese and spaniard pick off more slaves from bantu region especially brazilians but black americans r not bantu. but they r still our brothers. most diversity is in blacks of the world in africa and south asia.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@mykole84 No the places Europeans took the slaves from where Bantu people settled.. Mostly from the west central Africa.

[mykole84]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican. look up where the bantus are. they do not dominate in western africa. most black americans are west africans like nigerian s, etc. there is some bantu blood possibly but its not the majority and not even close. we are mostly atlantic coast western (no bantus) and western central african (some bantus there) but the 1st is the majority of our heritage. also we have white, american indian, and recently many types of asians and other types of africans.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@mykole84 No western central Africa AND western Africa is where most slaves came from

[crazyhillbillies]

tupac - isnt no humanitarian, changes was a good song - but he never repeated those messages in his other songs...

[CanadianLulz]

Motherfuck Ghandi, he was a sellout who hated his own natural beautiful dark skin. I am lighter than him, much much ligher and he would think that I am more civilized because of this. What a crock of shit. Everybody should be EQUAL but they aren't.

[zakuza92]

@CanadianLulz

I can't believe how can you fall for such stupid videos. Gandhi asked the South African blacks to rise up to white imperialism. The notion of white supremacy or light skinned supremacy over dark skinned is ridiculous and inhuman. He was compassionate and patriotic. He sought independence of India through peaceful means.

[CanadianLulz]

@zakuza92 Fall for such videos? So are you saying that he never said those comments directed to darker skin people? Oh please.

[mykole84]

@zakuza92. ghandi hated blacks & support nazis in germany. the only reason he protested in south africa was b/c he felt indians were treated as kaffir (offensive word against blacks). he was not a good man.

[zakuza92]

@mykole84

How can u say that? have you read about him? Have you read his biography? I think you are probably told by a white person that Gandhi was a bad guy or you are a white guy yourself.

[mykole84]

@zakuza92. yes i have, raw native kaffir (can mean non-muslim and many time meant black). ghandi was not a muslim and kaffir was a racial slur used against blacks in south africa. im a black who hates the way my people r being tricked. ghandi support mass suicide by jews in germany this is fact and wrote to hilter and called him his friend. u can look it up for yourself. there are records of it in south africa. he was racist against blacks and lower caste indians. F**K Ghandi.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@mykole84 No that is false, he wasnt even aware there was a mass murder going on.In his letter he calls everyone "friend"

[zakuza92]

@mykole84

You are making me laugh by saying that Gandhi supported nazis. Gandhi wasn't even aware of the term Nazi, it's meaning along with its purpose so how can he support the Nazis? it doesn't make any sense. The word Kafir means non muslim. The word Kuffar or kafir is seen as offensive for non muslims. You don't even know the meaning of Kafir or Kuffar and you have the guts to talk like that ! Stop spamming.

[mykole84]

@. ur full of crap

[lasog341]

Gandi is not even good enough to be tupacs shit..gandi hates niggers i hate gandi gandi was a castist and racist person

[langroyia90]

@lasog341 so true .

[midnatstimen]

I eat cow every day, what´s holy about that animal ?

look at him, he should eat some meat. Thats not healthy

Idians sure are strange.

[EricSchwin22]

Okay so Ghandi hated Black people and called them uncivilized...okay he was not perfect man, and neither are we... come on man. Tupac loved Ghandi, and he liked his messages of peace.

[rajownsyamom]

gandhi didnt call black people uncivilized, thats british propaganda...

[XByanymeans]

@rajownsyamom No Gandi had lots of nasty things to say about blacks. It's all written in his collective works.

[rajownsyamom]

nope, that was all just context taken out of order.

[XByanymeans]

Have you even read the collective works of Gandhi? He calls blacks kaffirs and even feels that it's an insult to Indians to be classed with kaffirs.

[rajownsyamom]

@XByanymeans , you tell me, HAVE YOU read his actual book? or did you just read this from an anti gandhi source? read it from his own bio, you will see his fucking context of the term kaffir.

[XByanymeans]

I read it from his own book. Gandhi calls kaffirs savages, animals, and he doesn't want the Indians to be associated with them. The term kaffir isn't a racial slur to blacks similar to nigger.

"Why, of all places in Johannesburg, the Indian Location should be chosen for dumping down all the Kaffirs of the town passes my comprehension"

How is that taken out of context. Gandhi makes it real clear he hates being around blacks in his writings.

[XByanymeans]

"Ours is one continued struggle against degradation sought to be inflicted upon us by the European, who desire to degrade us to the level of the raw Kaffir, whose occupation is hunting and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with, and then pass his life in indolence and nakedness."

Another racist quote from Gandhi himself. If you don't believe he said it look it up and tell me how it's taken out of context.

[rajownsyamom]

@XByanymeans buddy, thats one paragrph, i dont think you even understood him. gandhi's book is very complex.

[XByanymeans]

@rajownsyamom Those are 2 seperate paragraphs. One Gandhi is complaining about mixing Indiand with blacks and in the other he's saying Indians shouldn't be degraed to the level of kaffir.

What's so complex about what he's saying and again if Gandhi had any respect for blacks why would he call them kaffirs. That's just simple logic.

[rajownsyamom]

Did you know that Gandhi spoke Gujarati? And in Gujarati , the word Kaffir has a different meaning than in Punjabi and Hindi? Kaffir means outsider in Gujarati, LOL and dont even say I dont know, I myself am a Gujarati.

[XByanymeans]

Gandhi also spoke english and if you look up kaffir it was used as a racial slur against blacks plus Gandhi also used terms like savages and animals to describe the South Africans.

watch?v=QoPZnwJkFkU

In this video a former follower of Gandhi even talks about fidning Gandhi's racist writings in his collected work. So do you have any proof Gandhi had anything nice to say about blacks?

[rajownsyamom]

ya but the term kaffir in gujarati has no derogatory racial slurr meaning.

[XByanymeans]

Maybe but Gandhi was using it as a derogatory term for blacks. Even if you don't think he was you can't say words like animal and savage aren't meant to put down the people Gandhi was talking about.

[rajownsyamom]

@XByanymeans i just think, in the biography that i read , i did not find gandhi racist. in fact if you look up "gandhi was not a racist" there are a few articles dedicated into busting these myths.

[XByanymeans]

Yeah there is a biography but everything I'm saying comes from his Collected Works which is a collection of his writings. There are extrme Gandhi lovers that will say anything to defend their idol but the reality is his writings speak from itself. Gandhi hated blacks and if he did change is view later on he still only fought for the freedom of his own people and left the Sout Africans to suffer.

He even went so far as to publish newspaper articles on how he felt about kaffirs.

[rajownsyamom]

actually i really didnt like gandhi. i think if sardar patel wouldve been PM it wouldve been better for India. Gandhi had his right ideas, but they werent good for the time.

but as a neutral gandhi fan, im just going to say, based off what i read on anti gandhi sutff, anti anti gandhi material, and his own bio, i will have to say alot of his "racism" proof looks mutilated and out of wording.

[XByanymeans]

All the proof anti Gandhi sites use come from his own words though and the guy who wrote the book exposing Gandhi was a former follower until he read the collected works.

[rajownsyamom]

anti gandhi sites do alot of mutilation of his words actually

[XByanymeans]

I've never actually seen any anti-Gandhi sites but if you're trying to say he's a racist you won't need to twist his words. Gandhi wanted to make it clear how he felt about blacks.

[Theblackbarbie698]

@XByanymeans yeh but y did he say black?? he shud av sed south africans and not refer to the whole nation and im half southafrican and i cant say he was guud or bad coz i dont give a damn if he died but nexttime correct yourself SOUTHAFRICANS not blacks thats the whole nation god!

[makheyi]

@XByanymeans No Ghandi didnt, he was a racist. You travel all the way from India to South Africa and degrade the native people. Indians need to go home.

[mattvlad3]

@XByanymeans "we belive in racial purity like afrikaners" gandhi

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[mykole84]

@rajownsyamom. he said native kaffir and he was clearly talking about native black south africans. ghandi is not a great representative of india. they are people in indian who have really fought for the right of lower caste and untouchables. ghandi is not one, he bs led to hindis getting killed by muslim indians. now part of pakistan. it seems like pakistan is absorbing the border areas as well. ghandi was racist and castist and he was a lawyer and knew it meanin in english. lets be real.

[rajownsyamom]

@mykole84 area you kidding me? Gandhi didnt fight for lower castes? he fought for all of india you dumb fuck. He infact ONLY endorsed groups that helped dalits and lower castes. he was never racist you phaggot, this is just british propaganda to divide and cause more trauma and unstablitiy within the indian population. stfu bitch

[XByanymeans]

@rajownsyamom Now can you find anything from Gandhi where he says something positive about blacks or any proof he gave a damn about the blacks in South Africa. While he was fighting the British for his people he didn't even lift a finger to help the blacks or kaffirs as he called them.

[XByanymeans]

I doubt 2pac would love a racist.

[savemyplaylist]

even ghandi hated niggers! can you blame him?!

[ncuphabuchopho]

can't be better

[jayr545]

well, he was just speaking the truth my nigga.

[baacu13]

So..he is as normal as you then (a small mind) ;)

[justthefactsmister]

"he was an avid user of the word kaffir(nigger) in his early years in south africa." yes you hit the nail on its head, in his early years, I am sure he didn't hold those views in his later years. Ghandi was a humble man he never claimed to be a saint, but rather was aware of his own sin, none of us are perfect. All great people have skeletons in their cupboards.

[devDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD]

very true, it so unfortunate people think otherwiser about the crook named Gandhi.... He was the biggest racist and motherfucker in the true sense of the words

[danieljedi42]

not as bad as Mother Theresa

[bigjalil]

lol i was just about to say that..lol..im glad im not the only one that knew that..

[xklawenx]

@40yrOLDsexPERVERT

funny how he thought that of blacks when hindus are even worse lol

[zakuza92]

@40yrOLDsexPERVERT

That's not true. Gandhi never hated anyone. He even encouraged people clean their own toilets as supposed to having someone else rather do it. He was sympathetic towards blacks and even encouraged them  to rise up to white imperialism.

[YnOt2256]

nice