i wrote a song predicting the OWS dingbats a year before it happened!!! check it out on my channel.. LIBERALS ARE SO DAMN PREDICTABLE!!! and annoying!!! its called appropriately "OWS the song that saw it coming" (the end game)
I beg you to debate with me, as I have never lost versus a conservative on their "evil" agenda. The Conservative agenda will not win out as long as there are people like myself damning you to the sidelines. Reason #1 Conservatives operate on a belief system without the use of HARD facts in almost every arena they stick their nose into. I beg you, please debate with me. Your agenda is absolutely laughable.
@VadulTharys I hear this same argument from both sides, each saying the other doesn't use facts to support their claims. In almost every instance when a conservative makes a claim, to me, it seems as if they use beliefs more often than not. I acknowledge the fact that quite a few liberals resort to name calling, but I do not place myself in the same category as them; therefore, if you wish to discuss the issues, I will not raise my voice, nor lower my maturity level by relying on petty insults.
@ZatDudeOnline Well I have seen posted how it was the left I assume you mean Democrats did all these wonderful things for civil rights? Is that your belief? I would also like you to explain Oakland OWS activities if it is just a "few homeless" causing the trouble. You say they are not racists, then explain all the racial posters at OWS NY? I ask you to provide proof of racism or violence at TEA party rallies, that were not committed by either anti-tea activists or SEIU thugs.
Funny.. When I type Steven Crowder in the search box the first option is '' Steven Crowder is a racist''. Most funny, I type this message a couple of time in the pas and Crowder erased my comments.
You make no valid argument against the occupy movements, all you did was say some people committed some crimes that happened to be a part of that movement(the people not the crimes). What the fuck does that prove?
Steven Crowder lost the debate... Its not worth listening to so I will recap. Chowder kept calling the 99ers rapist and killers. The 99er rep said that those people are homeless and a small part of the movement. The 99er stated the problems with the Government and how its bought abd Obama is Bush light. Chowder basically doubled down and used more ad hominem attacks of 99ers turning down the homeless. Chowder, Ad hominem attacks without facts is not a debate. Thumbs up so people can see!
@JUDALATION ...did you get free crack when at your occupy protest? There was plenty of public defecation, law-breaking, and job-dodging going on throughout the entire movement. The stats don't lie, only delusional leftists bent on avoiding the truth do.
@kimberHD45 Are you implying that the vast majority of these protest were defecating in public? Is being a rude moron a prerequsite to being a neocon? Ok, Lets assume that all the 99ers are rapist and cannibals... Can we discuss if they have a point or not... I dont agree with the 99ers movement but at least I can debate wether they are right or not without using ad hominem attacks to avoid the REAL ISSUES.
@JUDALATION No I'm stating a fact, that when idots in the occupy movement claim to be part of the "99%", they are talking out of their ass. I'm saying there is a LONG list of broken laws, code violations, and trashed public areas in each community these degenerates try to occupy. If you can't recognize that as a "real issue", you need help. I am unaware of the prerequisites of being a neocon, because I'm not one, douche bag.
@kimberHD45 The 99ers are closer to the average American than the tea party. every poll says they are more popular, and the tea party is not even liked at all. The vast majority of protesters are non violent. All the crap you are saying about code violations could have been said about the civil rights movement. You cant win on the issues so you use ad hominim attacks... it does not work. Get a new SCHEME.
@JUDALATION Actually, you're full of shit. These aren't ad hominem attacks, they're called FACTS, you should check 'em out some time. Newsbusters has a site you can see the long list of offenses recorded by each community. Contrast that by the remarkably vacant list of Tea Party incidence...barring the paid union thugs shipped in to create problems. Problem is, theose same unions are financing occupiers. Strange how that works out, isn't it?
@kimberHD45 The Teaparty was funded by the Koch Brothers and was TINY compared to the 99ers movement. Many of the Teapartiers were industry insiders who worked for Multinactional coorperations. The 99ERS movement is Vastly larger, and compromises people from all walks, races, creeds, religions, and sexual prefrences of society. The Movement is in all 50 states and major cities in America and is STILL GOING STRONG! There have been more crimes... but that does NOT defiene the movement
@JUDALATION The Tea party started with Ron Paul, but the neocons came in and it's now a Kock Brothers and Shawn Hannity-like sham, so you're pretty bang on, except with its origin.
@JUDALATION The Koch brothers are a non-factor, I dont' care what Mediamatters or Moveon.org lied to you about. Donators had nothing to do with the Tea Party as a grass-roots movement. I speak as one myself, and for several friends. We were motivated by over-reaching government taxation and policy. The tea party numbers far exceed the occupy movement, and I recall seeing tea partiers of asian, east indian, and african decent...so I don't know what your point is...
@kimberHD45 Government WHAT TAXATION YOU IDIOT! OBAMA LOWERED TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS AND MAINTAINED BUSH TAX CUTS! Where were you when Bush had higher taxes? The Kotch brothers PAYED FOR PERMITS and sent memos denoting dates and times for events! They spearheaded the entire movement with the help of Fox News and Rupert Murdock. As soon as Fox news and the cotch brothers stoped fundint the tea party ended! Also the tea party was in 4 states... The 99 movement in Every state.
@JUDALATION Idiot? Obama has increased federal spending in 3 years by $4.5 Trillion dollars in NEW SPENDING. He has been pushing his class envy warfare angainst the production sector and "tax the rich" legislation agenda since he got in office. The CBO admitted Obamacare was going to cause healthcare prices to increase dramatically. How are they going to fund all this new spending? New taxation. Obama has not lowered ANY taxes. It's bait and switch smokescreens to fool, well, people like you.
@JUDALATION Talking about the Fox and the Koch brothers is like worrying about a splinter in your finger when a bus just amputated your leg. Unions and private donors like George Soros (one of the 1% you pretent to despise), fund the occupy bowel movement. The Tea Party ended by the 2010 elections, which garnered unprecedented numbers of historically Democrat seats, i.e. Ted Kennedy (ouch, right?) THAT was the purpose of the T.P...dumbass...
@kimberHD45 Seriously? You are comparing the Millionaires of Fox news spreading Lies like Death Panels and Obama's Fake birth Certificate, and The Koch Brothers That want to use Fracking to polute our water supply, Pollute our Air, Promote strict penalties for minor crimes for their Prisions to make Profits, Remove regulations that could prevent Mining Deaths And Oil Spills, Slash RECORD LOW taxes of 1%ers to the BONE V.S Teachers making 40k/yr And Unions defending Health Insurance?
@JUDALATION Yeah, in fact I am. Death panels are a fact. Rationed health care always gravitates to bureaucrats deciding who gets what care, ergo the "end of life counseling" neatly tucked in the mandate. Forget the Koch brothers, what about your own EPA mandating highly toxic mercury lightbulbs. Whatever happened to your concern for the environment on that one? I'd be more interested in the billionaire Union bosses who reap all the benefits from stealing union dues from workers every day.
@kimberHD45 Your stupidity is LEGEND! America has a life expectency close to Mexico Cuba and Barbados. Every country with better Healthcare and Longer Life Expectancy AND results per Ailment has Universal Health Care. The Noction that Expanding Health coverage is Government deciding who lives and dies Laughable, Which is why people on Medicaid AND Medicaire Are not running for their lives. I cant debate a retard. You dont see facts or common sence because you are Mentally stunt.
@JUDALATION Your penchant for name-calling says almost as much as your lack of facts. It's Obama's own administration that admitted in Obamacare, services will have to be rationed. Explain why they cut $500 billion out of Medicares' budget for the new plan. Even doctors in countries with nationalized health care fly here to get procedures done. Medical device companies are already downsizing, and office workers like coders are losing jobs in droves. You're simply too uninformed to know better.
@kimberHD45 The problem is that You are Justifying the 10 million children that are Uninsured in America by saying that Rich people from other countries can fly here to get fast treatment. The problem is that you are ignoring the fact that ALL Hospitals get massive state aid and Grants from taxpayers and yet taxpayers get NOTHING in return because they have to pay for services... EVEN THOUGH the Hospitals got free State & Federal money! Americas system is THE WORST OF BOTH WORLDS!
@JUDALATION On the contrary, there is NO justification for the parents of those "10 million" kids to not be responsible and carry insurance, but it's not the Government's job to step in, and assume daddy's role, especially by stealing other people's money. I can go to the nearest state-run hospital and the e-room will be full of illegals, be-be's kids, and every other form of person talking on the latest cell phones and wearing fashionable clothing...instead of paying for their services.
@JUDALATION Did the thought ever occur to you that maybe there's a different reason the #1 most obese industrialized country in the world has a shorter lifespan than some other than privatized healthcare? Heart Disease is the #1 killer and we're fatties... On death panels: please research NICE and alzheimer's.
@fizzingwhizbeee The problem is that You are Justifying the 10 million children that are Uninsured in America by saying that Rich people from other countries can fly here to get fast treatment. Germany and Mexico also have Hig obesity yet they fare much better than America. Being Fat is not a problem IF YOU GET TO A HOSPITAL BEFORE HEART ATTACKS! Thats because there are many drugs and aid that can prevent heart attacks. Americans average 3 visits/ year. Canada, 6!
@JUDALATION Cont... Thats because a large minority of Americans DONT GO because they are uninsured. Then they get sick and its more serious than if they went earlier, and it cost MORE! Thats why Americans Health COST are so HIGH! If you want to reduce cost... YOU MUST INCREASE COVERAGE AND VISITS to catch things early.
@JUDALATION The TEA party is larger and is organized with clear goals. OWS has no goals other than to take OPM, they don't want to work for it, they want it given to them. The left has NEVER cared about the welfare of the poor, only on how to keep them complacent and voting for them. They have never delivered on any promise to the poor only on promises to their financial supporters and their chosen dictators.
@VadulTharys The left has raised the Minimum wage despite conservatives complaints. The left has given the poor Medicaid, College grants, and protected womens rights to choose, as well as given them access to contraceptives. The left fought for racial equality and ending segregation in schools. The left is now fighting for marrage equality for gays. The left has always been on the right side of history, Conservatives however have been on the wrong side of History.
@JUDALATION Umm you need to check your facts, and quit believing the propaganda. I would also point out that unlike TEA party protests there are a long stream of racism antisemitism and out and out hatred spilling out of the OWS movement,
@JUDALATION odd but I don't know a single person who likes the OWS. Now everyone I know likes the TEA party. The biggest difference is the two movements is that TEA wants small government and freedom. OWS wants big government. OPM (other peoples money) , and no freedom.
A person i work with that is a huge TEA PARTY supporter was arrested for child porn, couple weeks ago. Now i can say that the Tea Party has pedo supporters right? Or would i be a fool to link anybody's stupid behavior to a party?
@studyhistory2ctruth havent met any or seen of any violence at a protest on the news, OWS on the other hand, I hear nothing but negative things about...i wonder why
@CWScott24 Because its called a protest? Perhaps you should like at the billionaires that started and give money to the "tea party". Look around the world what do protest look like? You are comparing 2 totally different things.
That being said, I hate this: I hate when one political group takes a movement (Tea Partiers, Occupiers, etc.) and points to the most extreme examples of the ones they dislike and say "they're a bunch of ignorant redneck bigots!" or "they're a bunch of naive college hippies!" There are bad apples in every barrel. I'm no Occupier, by the way.
First of all, Crowder, I'm happy (as always) that unlike other politically charged shows, you don't stoop to the pettiness of erasing comments that go against your views. I respect that.
@B1gDaddyB Leftists hold their views as absolute truths, regardless how illogical, and they are only trying to stear those they deem ignorant to appropriate reasoning. Therefore, they will spread their message through any means possible. I think the bigger issue is the fact that leftists always talk about how they love the poor and hate the evil rich. When you look at the influence they have to pedal propaganda through media outlets they own, you realize that they are the evil rich.
@TheCheifno I know all that. I find most liberals to be hypocrites when it comes to practicing what they preach. My point was that it is ironic, not too mention a little annoying, that I come to watch Steven's videos and I am forced to look at an ad for re-electing The One. Thanks for your input!
@B1gDaddyB I find most politically-motivated human beings to be hypocrites when it comes to practicing what they preach. It ain't just Liberals, pal, as convenient as that would be...
@TheCheifno Projection at its worst! Leftist dont hate anyone... they believe in Fairless. Asking millionaires to pay their fair share is not hating the rich. In fact poor people pay a larger percentage of their spendable income on taxes than the rich because of Gas, sales, property, utilities and many other State taxes.
Because they exploit loopholes in the thousands of pages in the tax code. Corporations lobby congress for corporate welfare and tax loopholes. Competitive capitalism we should have 50+ national banks instead of 5 to big to fail that crash the entire economy again. Solution: Get the money out of politics so that the Congress is beholden to the people not the corporations that bribe congress.
@Davis30b Corporations pay taxes but fall under certain legal special circumstances. As far as I understand GE suffered a loss. I haven't the time to get into the details of every single circumstance but you're being intellectually dishonest by implying anything illegal was done. REITs for example pay no taxes period the investors are taxed but that's how they work legally but you can see how easy it is to sway opinion by leaving out crucial details.
@Davis30b I also don't see how easily you people can be all death to the corporations. I hope you understand that lots of people probably work at one may have a good portion of their savings invested into one. The idea of getting money out of politics is also dumb where do you expect people to get the money or should they already be rich to run? I could lobby to build a much needed hospital or save the whales. I don't see why you want to restrict your own rights. It's dumb.
One more thing. Am I the only one that's noticed that the "rap sheet" Steven keeps referencing is not a rap sheet. It's a list of blog and other articles that have negative information about Occupiers. These articles sometimes but not always mention crimes--like "Communist Leader Cheered at Occupy Chicago is ALSO an OBAMA ORGANIZER" from "thegatewaypundit."
@johnnyboy2537 When it comes to taxation, the poor are certainly getting a better deal. They get all of the services and someone else foots the bill. They don't even have to provide time picking up trash in return. And getting a "refund" of sometimes 300% of what one paid the previous year thanks to EIC is the height of unfairness. cont'
However it would be nice if you didn't hear Newt in the debate last night if you look up the sound bites from a "non-mainstream" source, and hear what he said we conservatives want to do for the poor. We believe that everyone deserves the best and look for ways to pull people up from the bottom instead of down from the top.
@jtkirkfan2002 I'm quoting one because so many people are confused as to what they actually want. "The rich are the only ones paying taxes" Wow. That's ignorance. 47% of americans don't pay taxes. 61% of those make less than 20,000 a year who need food, medicine, housing, and many more things. By the way the 47% is the one being taxed without representation. They can't afford to buy a politician.
The top 1/10th of one percent, one onethousandth of the population, pays 27% of all federal taxes.
The top 1% pays 34.27% of all federal taxes.
The top 10% pays 65.84%.
The top 50% pays 96.54%.
The bottom pays next to nothing, nothing or actually gets paid by the IRS thanks to the Earned Income Credit. Who sounds like they're getting a better deal to you especially when that bottom 50% gets all of the government services?
@philateliceun You didn't finish or address the rest of the quote:
"The bottom pays next to nothing, nothing or actually gets paid by the IRS thanks to the Earned Income Credit."
I honestly don't have much of a problem with a poor person's tax bill getting reduced to zero by the proper exemptions and deductions. I DO have a problem with people getting EIC getting "refunds" of sometimes 300 to 500%. Those are MY tax dollars going to them. cont'
I'm also sick of hearing "The 'rich' aren't paying their fair share when the numbers clearly show that they and to a lesser extent the middle class are the only ones paying anything at all.
BTW, "government services" are paid for by tax dollars. You must believe it is "fair" for those who make no contribution to be the ones to reap the benefits.
@johnnyboy2537 You lib's also need to realize that you can't misquote posts that you can't delete. I said, "The rich are the only ones paying any appreciable taxes." I also didn't suggest raising taxes on the poor. I suggested making people getting more back than they paid in from Earned Income Credit, which I bet half you libs have no idea what I'm talking about, provide community service in exchange for this IRS welfare.
"We don't want free healthcare. We want affordable healthcare. We don't want free handouts. We want job opportunities We expect to get everything I vote for. We want our votes to count. We don't want businesses not to profit. We want them out of the political and regulatory process. We don't want the wealthy to pay for everything. We want them to pay their fair share." OWS protester So people actually know what they want.
@johnnyboy2537 "Fair share" The rich are the only ones who actually pay any appreciable taxes in this country now. They also receive the least return on their investment. How about this: I'll support tax hikes for the rich if in order for someone to qualify for the Earned Income Credit, he or she has to contribute his or her "fair share" and provide 100 hours of community service.
@johnnyboy2537 Businesses are run by people. Is it fair that Congress be able to pass laws that affect businesses if those affected don't get their fair say? The American Revolution was started over a little thing called "taxation without representation".
so rather than highlight issues of substance crowder focuses on things like arrests to discredit the movement? and hes chastising the guy for trying to actually focus on the intelligence points of political thought.. claiming the guy is using diversionary tactics because he doesnt want to focus on the amount of arrests?
FOCUSING ON ARRESTS OVER POLITICAL SUBSTANCE IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF A DIVERSIONARY TACTIC CROWDER.
Now I know why you are referred to as " Steven "Chowder head" Crowder! Hey Stevie, quit worrying about what you put in your mouth, rather, worry about what comes out of it.
"andoned baby found in Occupy Washington encampment. Father under arrest."
Golly gosh! More Fox news! Why not read the reports not just headlines dipshit: "Protesters at the camp said the man and baby were not part of the Occupy community but had been around the McPherson Square encampment for a few weeks"
I put out a long list of GOP sex scandals that didnt resign . YOU cry "isolated incidents" despite long list...now have a story of one guy not in the group
@halloranedward The right is not only against making sense, but is actively engaged in prostituting it.Why don't yall just be more like your buddy Rush, and pop a couple more Oxycontins. Remember: don't stop taking your meds, sometimes the world just needs a break from the real you!
The occupy movement is a movement about give me more.. See, the thing of it is? Taxing the rich won't do anything.. See how it works is, you tax the rich and it goes directly to the Federal Reserve.. Not them..
@Viddaric If they are so upset about corporate America, how then could their attempts to demostrate and disrupt the Iowa caucuses do any good? That is a violation of federal law. Of course you won't need to worry about prosecution form Eric Holder and Obama's Justice Dept.
An online wall street journal article points out why the "soak the rich" policies don't work, in fact they hurt the economy.Politicians in Annapolis created a millionaire tax bracket, raising the top marginal income-tax rate to 6.25%. One year later, one-third of the millionaires have disappeared from Maryland tax rolls. Instead of the coffers gaining the extra $106 million the politicians predicted, millionaires paid $100 million less in taxes than they did last year -- even at higher rates.
@xqeenx Seriously you are Calling Steve stupid and you are saying Liberals protest peacefully? rofl I can't stop laughing at you! my face hurts from laughing so much! please stop it......................ok ok ok I have to compose myself now! Alright what is your deal with someone carrying a gun?............Why does someones right to bare arms offend you? why are you scared? Why do you hate the Constitution? why?
It's funny...for someone who claims I don't think for myself, all YOU did was repeat "talking points". For instance, your "Democrat run media" you not only presented no proof...but that comes from the 1990s Newt Gingritch talking point manual ""Language: A Key Mechanism of Control"
Way to go, parrot boy!
Speaking of conservatives not thinking- do you go to church?
you think those students at Berkly who were sitting on the ground peacefully, were dangerous rapist criminals that needed mass pepper spray and police violence?
This concept that you have that every single rally in the world has 'rape, fires and shooting' is wildly untrue.
Although, when Crowder went to one protest, it was a shame none of that happened to him if it were true....
@xqeenx Look dragqueenThose students were blocking the way for other students and they were not handcuffed, they could have moved anytime, they were obstructing a public walk way for the rest of the students, they were warned several times they would be sprayed if they don't move, so they got what they deserved. I would have walked right over them and kicked them as I did, If I were there. bunch of assholes. Yes there have been rapes at OWS protests, none at tea party protests.
@hipstermi Yeah, you keep telling yourself, you know shit, that you don't. I will always be smarter than, you and unlike you, I actually do think for myself. I'm sure you would walk around people blocking the way, you wouldn't want to upset anyone, because your a pussy. I'm not gonna let people push me around like that, peaceful demonstration doesn't mean blocking entrances. Not cool for the other students.
"I will always be smarter than, you and unlike you"
Parroting things I already said about you...nothing screams your inferiority more ;)
"I actually do think for myself"
Let's see...conservative- take cues from the fundi churches, who run the GOP, and take talking points from right wing talk show hosts, many of who you parroted.
Conservatives arent known for independent thought. Gingritch proved that when he wrote "Language: A Key Mechanism of Control".
@hipstermi you talk down about Conservatives but yet you sit their and act like what you are saying makes any since. Why do you take cues from biased based News Medias which are controlled by Democrats? Why do you not think for yourself? because if you did you would have common sense. Plus where is your common sense?..........oh I know you leave that up Government, you know those guys you worship, that will take care of all your needs and wants...........pretty pathetic!
I'm a lot independent that conservative assholism. For instance...do you go to church like Crowder? that place teaches inDOCTRINation...aka...DOCTRINE!
@hipstermi "You just typed I don't make any "sinse"."
You lie. Familiar quote to you? Cause you use "you lie" all the time. So YOU lie. The quote was "makes any since", not "sinse". See how stupid it is to get called a liar for the most inconsequential thing, something you do continually.
But whoa, you previously said: "Let's see...conservative- take cues from the fundi churches, who run the GOP, and take talking points from right wing talk show hosts, many of who you parroted." My response to your stupid comment, to coin your phrase: "AH yes...the scripted "talking point" conspiracy theory."
@hipstermi "I'm a lot independent that conservative assholism." Huh? If you're going to make fun of others for spelling or grammar mistakes, make ABSOLUTELY sure you don't make any yourself.
"For instance...do you go to church like Crowder? that place teaches inDOCTRINation...aka...DOCTRINE!" So you're saying you have no doctrine, no (liberal) position and have NEVER been indoctrinated in any way shape or form? No specific point of view or bias? LOL. Try again, hypocrite.
@hipstermi Hey hipstermi, I heard you also believe in magic space farts, intelligence from mud, walking fish, and planet of the apes, and you accuse me of believing in fairly tales? You just keep on buddy, you will get there one day.
"I heard you also believe in magic space farts, intelligence from mud, walking fish, and planet of the apes, and you accuse me of believing in fairly tales?"
The big bang is hardly a "space fart". You odd names of the others just shows your lack of intelligence and possibly lack of education.
But come on... water levitation? Super strength? Demon pigs? talking snake?
My qords are accurate. So ...do you REALLY believe in all that magic?
@hipstermi The big bang is mentioned as God's method of creating the universe, funny and this bible was written long before telescopes and modern astronomy or knowledge of physics. want the verse? Oh and lets see, levitation, super strength, pigs acting possessed, talking 'serpent' (translates to deceiver), v., your lizard bird, walking fish, computer yielding slime mud, planet of the apes, and Spontaneous existence (big bang w/o God) You sure you wanna have this tug of war?
@hipstermi No I believe in giant magic space farts that defy the laws of physics and magical spontaneously poof everything into existence making talking monkey, walking fish, lizard birds that came after real birds, and computer/airplane producing slime mud that, given enough time, can make anything!! LOL really, keep tugging buddy, you winning!
@Sirile774 This guy is so paranoid he thinks commenters like yourself are really me using an alternate account! He doesn't think for himself, in fact I believe he doesn't think much at all.
@hipstermi Actually it's you liberals that can't think for yourselves, and you deny historical and modern truth. You call us what you are yourselves. And you parrot often while I am original in thought, but hey you might think I sound like others that stick to the truth because the truth doesn't change, lies do.
@LesClaypoolOnBass Plenty of democrats that also believe that. What's you point? Should I assume you believe in magical space farts, intelligence from mud, and planet of the apes?
"Plenty of democrats that also believe that. What's you point?"
The Democrats arent trying to pass laws and agenda based on the magical stories?
Personally...i'd like to see LESS religious people in office. But we know you conservatives attack anyone not Christian enough so that's not going to happen.
@hipstermi "The Democrats arent trying to pass laws and agenda based on the magical stories.."
What specific laws and agenda are you talking about? Name them - name the laws and agenda that conservatives are trying to pass that have to do with "magical stories".
@hipstermi Sure they are, they believe in lizard birds, walking fish, intelligence from slim mud, magic space fart, Not the big band mentioned in the bible, planet of the apes, (based on pig's tooth - remember Montana man lol) Chinese love you guys, they keep 'producing' the fossils that your friends want to be 'found' for the right price. They are so creative and talented. Shit they know how to make pretty good fake leather to!
@hipstermi You don't believe in Rise of the planet of the apes?, where they become humans and take over the world, NWAAHh that could never happen right? no evolutionist/Darwinist thinks that ever happened, that's fiction. LOL YOUR RIGHT!! Man I love you dude, can we be friends?
@hipstermi They didn't make a mistake with Montana man, they got caught, that's all, because some scientists don't have an AGENDA, like many do. You see today, the mainstream is atheism/evolution hand in hand. That is mainstream politically defended science, not actually seeking the truth objectively.
You dipshits believe anything people wave a cross at and call a "miracle"
@Burns12009 That may be, but I'm not against Obama because of what the Republicans or Democrats do/say. I hold conservative values and that doesn't always line up with Republican values. It's that simple. There's no point in arguing about Obama's political party or who he lines up with now versus 10 or 50 years ago. He's a liberal and he's marching to the Democrat tune right now. Either way, he has been a failure and he is ruining the country. No label will change that.
@AsifIcarebear3 Are you oblivious to what Obama has done and is trying to do? The only "Republican" policy you can make a case about is taking out Bin Laden... But who wouldn't have pulled that trigger? Everything he is trying to do is to expand government and raise taxes, just because he hasn't been successful doesn't mean he's "Republican."
What's your point anyways? It's obvious that all you have is rhetoric. I never claimed to be a Republican. I'm a conservative. There's a difference.
@Nixmix24 Are you yourself completely oblivious to everything that has happened? Obama talks the talk of a progressive, and then he lowers taxes to the rich, slashes the budget, doesn't end the wars, passes the NDAA, doesn't shut down GTMO, bombs Americans overseas without a trial, and hopes he isn't seen for what he is; a conservative. What he says and what he does are two vastly, incredibly different things.
@AsifIcarebear3 Keeping the taxes where they are isn't lowering them. If any cuts to the budget have been made, it's because of the congress, the president does't have the power. You can't just end wars, if we could, Obama would have. GTMO also can't just be shut down because nobody wants the people in GTMO. Bombs Americans overseas? More rhetoric. Every point you've made has been invalid because he has either been forced to do it or he can't change it anyways. Nice try.
@Nixmix24 He isn't keeping them where they are. The taxes now are lower than they have ever been. The president isn't completely irrelevant in the negotiations. Obama has "buckled" to the republicans over and over, without even giving them a fight. Of course you can't just leave over night, but you can leave well before - was it 2024 he said? - and not have a collapsing country. Obama promised shutting GTMO down, he failed. Because he's republican. Anwar al-Awlaki was bombed. Also: NDAA.
@AsifIcarebear3 When did he lower taxes? How about some evidence to back up your mountains of rhetoric? Obama has been pushing for more taxes on millionaires constantly... like Democrats always do. He promised to shut down GTMO to win an election before he educated himself on the facts of the matter.. like a typical liberal. His failures to please liberals like yourself is due to the fact that he can't just do what the liberals want him to do without ruining the country even more than he has.
@Nixmix24 Googling isn't hard. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act and Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010 both cut taxes as well as extending Bush tax cuts.
Taxes on millionaires are historically low, and - coincidentally - the economy is in shambles. Low taxes doesn't always equate job creation, as history has clearly shown.
I don't know what liberals want, or if I'm one, but the political spectrum in the US is very, very, very conservative.
@AsifIcarebear3 All of which is offset by the tax increases for Obamacare. Again, you have no point.
"Taxes on millionaires are historically low..."
Not because of Obama!
"...coincidentally - the economy is in shambles."
If you taxed the rich 100% it wouldn't put a dent in the recovery. In fact, there would be no jobs because the rich hire, not the poor, and they would have no money to do so. How about you back up your claim with some evidence.
@Nixmix24 The only question you seem to have asked is: "What's your point?" which I think is abundantly clear. Obama isn't democratic. The political spectrum has shifted so insanely much to the right because of politicians being bought wholesale by the very wealthy, something OWS tries to end. Do you think it's right for the wealthy to be able to lobby and literally buy politicians? Do you argue that it doesn't corrupt -at all- when the people who regulate receive money from those they regulate?
@AsifIcarebear3 Like I said, all of your points are illegitimate. You haven't given a single good reason why Obama isn't a democrat. Everything he does is to support the Democrats. You refuse to see that everything he has actually been able to accomplish, like healthcare, has been liberal, bigger government, entitlement bull crap. Just because he is a failure, doesn't mean that he is Republican. Have you ever thought that you might just be too liberal?
@Nixmix24 Obama is agreeing to budget cuts left, right and center, without even asking for tax increases, and you call him liberal? He won't even consider legalising marijuana, something that would benefit the US through taxes as well as give people more freedom (I don't smoke), or raising taxes (except when he's campaigning, which is an entirely different Obama), or cutting the military substantially. Not even common sense things like taking money, lobbying, out of politics. You should love him
@AsifIcarebear3 He's agreeing because he HAS to. Lets not forget that the budget cuts are a drop in the bucket. I would give him more credit if he was actually willing to do some budget cuts that need to be done rather than budget cuts that are done purely for show. Don't be naive. Lots of people, liberal and conservative, are against legalizing pot. That's a pathetic point. One weak point after another without talking about the real issues and you think I should love Obama? Laughable indeed.
@Nixmix24 And why does he "HAVE" to? Because the power lies with the right, as the political spectrum has shifted enormously to the right.
I brought up the pot point because the country wants it to happen.It's time, and as a democrat(liberal/progressive?) he could easily lead the way in this regard.
My points aren't weak, you just don't accept that Obama has passed very little that wasn't done through the conservative mindset. Show that you aren't the one full of rhetoric, and prove me wrong.
@AsifIcarebear3 He HAS to because it would be political suicide not to. He's always saying he's the one compromising. If he isn't willing to compromise on inconsequential cuts, then everyone would see right through his lies.
You want pot, not the country.
You're points are extremely weak. You have nothing to back it up and nothing but rhetoric that we've all heard a million times. You are a broken record and I already proved you wrong. Come back when you have something new that you can back up.
@Nixmix24 I'm the one who's only full of rhetoric? Just skip the bullshit dude, no need to waste the characters on the youtube comment.
There's a difference between compromising, and giving -everything- the other person wants up front. Which he has done over and over again.
And now it's time you prove to me you're not all talk, by showing to me how Obama is not in fact just a republican in democrat-clothing. What has he done that was truly democrat, when he had the power to do so?
@AsifIcarebear3 "Just skip the bullshit dude, no need to waste the characters on the youtube comment."
I could say the same about every comment of yours.
I said to come back when you have something new to add. Even if you are absolutely right, I don't love Obama and you aren't going to convince me otherwise. I've already given you multiple examples of what you're asking but you choose to ignore them in favor of your own rhetoric. Unless you have something new or an actual point to make, move on.
@Nixmix24 "Even if you are absolutely right, I don't love Obama and you aren't going to convince me otherwise." Are you actually admitting denying reality then?
The only shadow of an example you've put forth is that Obama was forced. That's not a good argument, unless you think the president doesn't have any power to negotiate with at all. Show me you're not all talk, and give me examples of how Obama has earned your distaste. It seems to me like you're getting everything you want out of him.
@AsifIcarebear3 "Are you actually admitting denying reality then?"
No, it isn't reality and he has done far more than the pathetic examples you have given that would make him way too liberal for me. You refuse to acknowledge them because you're trying to push an idea and the facts get in the way.
That wasn't an example, I gave you examples such as Obamacare, always pushing for class warfare and taxing the rich. I could go on and on. You don't know what I want. I've gotten NOTHING out of him.
@Nixmix24 You said that even if I'm absolutely right, that Obama is a secret republican, only passing republican legislation, you would still oppose him. Denying reality. What he says and what he does are two different things.
Did you see who he wants to appoint chief of staff? Jacob Lew, former emplyee at Citigroup, who tried - and failed - at making money off the housing collapse, received 900.000 from Citigroup just before joining the Obama administration. Would a real democrat choose Lew?
@AsifIcarebear3 Just because I'm opposed to him, that doesn't mean that I'm denying reality. First, as I said, it's not reality, and second, I don't like what he has passed even if you want to say that it is Republican. That's why I'm opposed. I don't care if you think he's a Republican. You can believe what you want. I'm not a Republican, I'm a conservative. Call Obama's legislation Republican all day long, that doesn't mean that it's conservative. Don't pretend to know what I want.
@Nixmix24 It's very simple. I said that Obama is a republican, and that you have no reason to dislike him, as he passes mainly conservative legislation - or strips away legislation, to which you replied, that even if I was absolutely right, you would still dislike him. In other words, even if he is a republican, who acts as such, you'd still dislike him. Are you denying reality or are you simply horribly racist? I think you just messed up, and don't want to admit it, so I'll let it slide.
@AsifIcarebear3 It's very simple. You think he's a Republican and you assume that I have no reason to dislike him. I gave you multiple reasons to dislike him. Your logic is at an elementary school level. Do you like every Democrat? Obviously not. Even if he was a Republican, I don't have to like him. What kind of ignorant logic is that? I'm denying YOUR reality that YOU created, not the actual reality. And of course you would play the race card even tough I haven't given you a reason.
@Nixmix24 It's so excrutiatingly simple. You have very little reason to dislike him, and you deny it outright. I didn't pull the race card with joy, but when you base your opinions on absolutely nothing, then I have to dig a little deeper. If Obama had been a republican, you'd have loved him. Or are you able to list me a ton of reasons - instead of just saying that you've done so - and prove me wrong? I'm anxiously awaiting your "lol but i alredy did :D" non-answer.
@AsifIcarebear3 It's excruciatingly simple. You think you know what I like without knowing me at all, and you're wrong. Nothing matters to you but your own preconceived notions.
"I didn't pull the race card with joy"
You're a liar. I gave you multiple reasons why I don't like Obama, none of them have to do with race. You refuse to engage any of those reasons I've given you because you have no rebuttal. Instead, like a child, you plug your ears while yelling, "la la la I can't hear you!"
@AsifIcarebear3 I'm not going to repeat myself for the third time to someone who doesn't want to hear it. You aren't worth the effort. Work on your reading comprehension. Since you can't grow up and use your head, this conversation is over. There's no reasoning with someone with their head up their ass.
@AsifIcarebear3 Oh and to answer your question: "Would a real democrat choose Lew?"
Yes.
The housing collapse is the Democrats', like Barney Frank, fault. Would a Democrat appoint someone who would make money from the Democrat failure? Of course they would. You're a fool if you think otherwise. Look at the rest of the Communists, Socialists and other Lefty radicals Obama has appointed as Czars. Lew is the least of our worries when it comes to Democrats appointing scumbags. Good try.
@Nixmix24 "The housing collapse is the Democrats', like Barney Frank, fault."
Yeah, the bankers have no guilt whatsoever. Doesn't matter the purposefully gave out subprime loans and then betted against them; making money as they failed, and that the conservatives are against putting regulation in place which would prevent the banks from crashing the economy again.
Obama a communist? He's hardly even a social democrat - which is what you call communism.
@AsifIcarebear3 "Yeah, the bankers have no guilt whatsoever."
And when did I say that? Oh, right, I didn't
"Obama a communist?"
Here you go again, putting words in my mouth.
The bottom line is, you are intellectually dishonest. You don't debate what I say, you debate what you THINK I mean. Try some integrity next time.
Of course there's some blame to be had on the banker's shoulders. But you fail to take into account the fact that Frank forced the banks to make those bad loans. Educate yourself.
@Nixmix24 ""Yeah, the bankers have no guilt whatsoever."
And when did I say that? Oh, right, I didn't" to which I can quote yourself:
"The housing collapse is the Democrats', like Barney Frank, fault"
You're saying democrats led to the housing collapse (do I really have to virtually explain to you what you said in verbatim?), and didn't even acknowledge that anyone else - that is, the actual purpetrators - had any role in it. I'm not putting words in your mouth. Try some intelligence next time
@Nixmix24 Yeah, I'm positive Frank reaaaaally had to do a lot of armtwisting to force those weak little bankers into making millions and millions and millions of dollars.
Try thinking and reflecting, while you're busy educating yourself. Also, may I recommend being critical of your sources? It's awesome.
Unless you have something remotely interesting to bring to the table - which I have no hopes of - this is the end of the discussion.
i wrote a song predicting the OWS dingbats a year before it happened!!! check it out on my channel.. LIBERALS ARE SO DAMN PREDICTABLE!!! and annoying!!! its called appropriately "OWS the song that saw it coming" (the end game)
heytootssweet 1 day ago
I beg you to debate with me, as I have never lost versus a conservative on their "evil" agenda. The Conservative agenda will not win out as long as there are people like myself damning you to the sidelines. Reason #1 Conservatives operate on a belief system without the use of HARD facts in almost every arena they stick their nose into. I beg you, please debate with me. Your agenda is absolutely laughable.
ZatDudeOnline 1 day ago
@ZatDudeOnline Usually is is liberals who will not accept facts, only emotions and name calling.
VadulTharys 1 day ago
@VadulTharys I hear this same argument from both sides, each saying the other doesn't use facts to support their claims. In almost every instance when a conservative makes a claim, to me, it seems as if they use beliefs more often than not. I acknowledge the fact that quite a few liberals resort to name calling, but I do not place myself in the same category as them; therefore, if you wish to discuss the issues, I will not raise my voice, nor lower my maturity level by relying on petty insults.
ZatDudeOnline 15 hours ago
@ZatDudeOnline Well I have seen posted how it was the left I assume you mean Democrats did all these wonderful things for civil rights? Is that your belief? I would also like you to explain Oakland OWS activities if it is just a "few homeless" causing the trouble. You say they are not racists, then explain all the racial posters at OWS NY? I ask you to provide proof of racism or violence at TEA party rallies, that were not committed by either anti-tea activists or SEIU thugs.
VadulTharys 10 hours ago
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Funny.. When I type Steven Crowder in the search box the first option is '' Steven Crowder is a racist''. Most funny, I type this message a couple of time in the pas and Crowder erased my comments.
SodaPopensky 2 weeks ago
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You're an idiot. You come across as an ignorant racist (golf Clap)...faggit
madflowsmusic 2 weeks ago
You make no valid argument against the occupy movements, all you did was say some people committed some crimes that happened to be a part of that movement(the people not the crimes). What the fuck does that prove?
ZigZagzGoon 2 weeks ago
Steven Crowder lost the debate... Its not worth listening to so I will recap. Chowder kept calling the 99ers rapist and killers. The 99er rep said that those people are homeless and a small part of the movement. The 99er stated the problems with the Government and how its bought abd Obama is Bush light. Chowder basically doubled down and used more ad hominem attacks of 99ers turning down the homeless. Chowder, Ad hominem attacks without facts is not a debate. Thumbs up so people can see!
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@JUDALATION were you watching the same video?
tbtab15 2 weeks ago
@tbtab15 What? Im talking about the debate you moron, not This video! How slow can you be?
JUDALATION 2 weeks ago
@JUDALATION Quick with the personal attacks you know you don't have to be so vicious but I won't lose any sleep over it.
tbtab15 1 week ago
@JUDALATION ...did you get free crack when at your occupy protest? There was plenty of public defecation, law-breaking, and job-dodging going on throughout the entire movement. The stats don't lie, only delusional leftists bent on avoiding the truth do.
kimberHD45 2 weeks ago
@kimberHD45 Are you implying that the vast majority of these protest were defecating in public? Is being a rude moron a prerequsite to being a neocon? Ok, Lets assume that all the 99ers are rapist and cannibals... Can we discuss if they have a point or not... I dont agree with the 99ers movement but at least I can debate wether they are right or not without using ad hominem attacks to avoid the REAL ISSUES.
JUDALATION 2 weeks ago
@JUDALATION No I'm stating a fact, that when idots in the occupy movement claim to be part of the "99%", they are talking out of their ass. I'm saying there is a LONG list of broken laws, code violations, and trashed public areas in each community these degenerates try to occupy. If you can't recognize that as a "real issue", you need help. I am unaware of the prerequisites of being a neocon, because I'm not one, douche bag.
kimberHD45 2 weeks ago
@kimberHD45 The 99ers are closer to the average American than the tea party. every poll says they are more popular, and the tea party is not even liked at all. The vast majority of protesters are non violent. All the crap you are saying about code violations could have been said about the civil rights movement. You cant win on the issues so you use ad hominim attacks... it does not work. Get a new SCHEME.
JUDALATION 2 weeks ago
@JUDALATION Actually, you're full of shit. These aren't ad hominem attacks, they're called FACTS, you should check 'em out some time. Newsbusters has a site you can see the long list of offenses recorded by each community. Contrast that by the remarkably vacant list of Tea Party incidence...barring the paid union thugs shipped in to create problems. Problem is, theose same unions are financing occupiers. Strange how that works out, isn't it?
kimberHD45 2 weeks ago
@kimberHD45 The Teaparty was funded by the Koch Brothers and was TINY compared to the 99ers movement. Many of the Teapartiers were industry insiders who worked for Multinactional coorperations. The 99ERS movement is Vastly larger, and compromises people from all walks, races, creeds, religions, and sexual prefrences of society. The Movement is in all 50 states and major cities in America and is STILL GOING STRONG! There have been more crimes... but that does NOT defiene the movement
JUDALATION 2 weeks ago
@JUDALATION The Tea party started with Ron Paul, but the neocons came in and it's now a Kock Brothers and Shawn Hannity-like sham, so you're pretty bang on, except with its origin.
GtheMVP 2 weeks ago
@JUDALATION The Koch brothers are a non-factor, I dont' care what Mediamatters or Moveon.org lied to you about. Donators had nothing to do with the Tea Party as a grass-roots movement. I speak as one myself, and for several friends. We were motivated by over-reaching government taxation and policy. The tea party numbers far exceed the occupy movement, and I recall seeing tea partiers of asian, east indian, and african decent...so I don't know what your point is...
kimberHD45 1 week ago
@kimberHD45 Government WHAT TAXATION YOU IDIOT! OBAMA LOWERED TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS AND MAINTAINED BUSH TAX CUTS! Where were you when Bush had higher taxes? The Kotch brothers PAYED FOR PERMITS and sent memos denoting dates and times for events! They spearheaded the entire movement with the help of Fox News and Rupert Murdock. As soon as Fox news and the cotch brothers stoped fundint the tea party ended! Also the tea party was in 4 states... The 99 movement in Every state.
JUDALATION 1 week ago
@JUDALATION Idiot? Obama has increased federal spending in 3 years by $4.5 Trillion dollars in NEW SPENDING. He has been pushing his class envy warfare angainst the production sector and "tax the rich" legislation agenda since he got in office. The CBO admitted Obamacare was going to cause healthcare prices to increase dramatically. How are they going to fund all this new spending? New taxation. Obama has not lowered ANY taxes. It's bait and switch smokescreens to fool, well, people like you.
kimberHD45 1 week ago
@JUDALATION Talking about the Fox and the Koch brothers is like worrying about a splinter in your finger when a bus just amputated your leg. Unions and private donors like George Soros (one of the 1% you pretent to despise), fund the occupy bowel movement. The Tea Party ended by the 2010 elections, which garnered unprecedented numbers of historically Democrat seats, i.e. Ted Kennedy (ouch, right?) THAT was the purpose of the T.P...dumbass...
kimberHD45 1 week ago
@kimberHD45 Seriously? You are comparing the Millionaires of Fox news spreading Lies like Death Panels and Obama's Fake birth Certificate, and The Koch Brothers That want to use Fracking to polute our water supply, Pollute our Air, Promote strict penalties for minor crimes for their Prisions to make Profits, Remove regulations that could prevent Mining Deaths And Oil Spills, Slash RECORD LOW taxes of 1%ers to the BONE V.S Teachers making 40k/yr And Unions defending Health Insurance?
JUDALATION 1 week ago
@JUDALATION Yeah, in fact I am. Death panels are a fact. Rationed health care always gravitates to bureaucrats deciding who gets what care, ergo the "end of life counseling" neatly tucked in the mandate. Forget the Koch brothers, what about your own EPA mandating highly toxic mercury lightbulbs. Whatever happened to your concern for the environment on that one? I'd be more interested in the billionaire Union bosses who reap all the benefits from stealing union dues from workers every day.
kimberHD45 1 week ago
@kimberHD45 Your stupidity is LEGEND! America has a life expectency close to Mexico Cuba and Barbados. Every country with better Healthcare and Longer Life Expectancy AND results per Ailment has Universal Health Care. The Noction that Expanding Health coverage is Government deciding who lives and dies Laughable, Which is why people on Medicaid AND Medicaire Are not running for their lives. I cant debate a retard. You dont see facts or common sence because you are Mentally stunt.
JUDALATION 1 week ago
@JUDALATION Your penchant for name-calling says almost as much as your lack of facts. It's Obama's own administration that admitted in Obamacare, services will have to be rationed. Explain why they cut $500 billion out of Medicares' budget for the new plan. Even doctors in countries with nationalized health care fly here to get procedures done. Medical device companies are already downsizing, and office workers like coders are losing jobs in droves. You're simply too uninformed to know better.
kimberHD45 1 week ago
@kimberHD45 The problem is that You are Justifying the 10 million children that are Uninsured in America by saying that Rich people from other countries can fly here to get fast treatment. The problem is that you are ignoring the fact that ALL Hospitals get massive state aid and Grants from taxpayers and yet taxpayers get NOTHING in return because they have to pay for services... EVEN THOUGH the Hospitals got free State & Federal money! Americas system is THE WORST OF BOTH WORLDS!
JUDALATION 1 day ago
@JUDALATION On the contrary, there is NO justification for the parents of those "10 million" kids to not be responsible and carry insurance, but it's not the Government's job to step in, and assume daddy's role, especially by stealing other people's money. I can go to the nearest state-run hospital and the e-room will be full of illegals, be-be's kids, and every other form of person talking on the latest cell phones and wearing fashionable clothing...instead of paying for their services.
kimberHD45 1 day ago
@JUDALATION Did the thought ever occur to you that maybe there's a different reason the #1 most obese industrialized country in the world has a shorter lifespan than some other than privatized healthcare? Heart Disease is the #1 killer and we're fatties... On death panels: please research NICE and alzheimer's.
fizzingwhizbeee 1 day ago
@fizzingwhizbeee The problem is that You are Justifying the 10 million children that are Uninsured in America by saying that Rich people from other countries can fly here to get fast treatment. Germany and Mexico also have Hig obesity yet they fare much better than America. Being Fat is not a problem IF YOU GET TO A HOSPITAL BEFORE HEART ATTACKS! Thats because there are many drugs and aid that can prevent heart attacks. Americans average 3 visits/ year. Canada, 6!
JUDALATION 1 day ago
@JUDALATION Cont... Thats because a large minority of Americans DONT GO because they are uninsured. Then they get sick and its more serious than if they went earlier, and it cost MORE! Thats why Americans Health COST are so HIGH! If you want to reduce cost... YOU MUST INCREASE COVERAGE AND VISITS to catch things early.
JUDALATION 1 day ago
@JUDALATION The TEA party is larger and is organized with clear goals. OWS has no goals other than to take OPM, they don't want to work for it, they want it given to them. The left has NEVER cared about the welfare of the poor, only on how to keep them complacent and voting for them. They have never delivered on any promise to the poor only on promises to their financial supporters and their chosen dictators.
VadulTharys 1 week ago
@VadulTharys The left has raised the Minimum wage despite conservatives complaints. The left has given the poor Medicaid, College grants, and protected womens rights to choose, as well as given them access to contraceptives. The left fought for racial equality and ending segregation in schools. The left is now fighting for marrage equality for gays. The left has always been on the right side of history, Conservatives however have been on the wrong side of History.
JUDALATION 1 day ago
@JUDALATION Umm you need to check your facts, and quit believing the propaganda. I would also point out that unlike TEA party protests there are a long stream of racism antisemitism and out and out hatred spilling out of the OWS movement,
VadulTharys 1 day ago
@JUDALATION odd but I don't know a single person who likes the OWS. Now everyone I know likes the TEA party. The biggest difference is the two movements is that TEA wants small government and freedom. OWS wants big government. OPM (other peoples money) , and no freedom.
Simple easy to understand, and to the point.
VadulTharys 1 day ago
@JUDALATION explain Oakland?
VadulTharys 1 day ago
A person i work with that is a huge TEA PARTY supporter was arrested for child porn, couple weeks ago. Now i can say that the Tea Party has pedo supporters right? Or would i be a fool to link anybody's stupid behavior to a party?
studyhistory2ctruth 3 weeks ago 2
@studyhistory2ctruth you can say supporter. you only have proof of one.
CWScott24 2 weeks ago
@CWScott24 You missed my point entirely. Would you go as far as to say that every tea party member or supporter never committed a crime?
studyhistory2ctruth 2 weeks ago
@studyhistory2ctruth havent met any or seen of any violence at a protest on the news, OWS on the other hand, I hear nothing but negative things about...i wonder why
CWScott24 2 weeks ago
@CWScott24 Because its called a protest? Perhaps you should like at the billionaires that started and give money to the "tea party". Look around the world what do protest look like? You are comparing 2 totally different things.
studyhistory2ctruth 2 weeks ago
@studyhistory2ctruth could you proof read your comment, I don't understand what you are trying to say.
CWScott24 2 weeks ago
@studyhistory2ctruth Pics or it didn't happen.
Scotish223332 2 weeks ago
well done.
jacintobandito 3 weeks ago
So men raping women is beautiful? Women are supposed to give free food to the men who rape them? That 'liberal guy was just a rape apologist fucker.
SyKmGl 3 weeks ago
That being said, I hate this: I hate when one political group takes a movement (Tea Partiers, Occupiers, etc.) and points to the most extreme examples of the ones they dislike and say "they're a bunch of ignorant redneck bigots!" or "they're a bunch of naive college hippies!" There are bad apples in every barrel. I'm no Occupier, by the way.
joshdesk 4 weeks ago
First of all, Crowder, I'm happy (as always) that unlike other politically charged shows, you don't stoop to the pettiness of erasing comments that go against your views. I respect that.
joshdesk 4 weeks ago
They are filthy stink hippies! :D
is7tanki 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
@is7tanki Wow, way to stay on the intellectual level!
VaultDweller804 3 weeks ago
How come all the ads on your channel are in support of Obama and appear to be or are in fact completely left leaning ads?
I wonder who decides what ads to place on people's channels?
B1gDaddyB 1 month ago
@B1gDaddyB Leftists hold their views as absolute truths, regardless how illogical, and they are only trying to stear those they deem ignorant to appropriate reasoning. Therefore, they will spread their message through any means possible. I think the bigger issue is the fact that leftists always talk about how they love the poor and hate the evil rich. When you look at the influence they have to pedal propaganda through media outlets they own, you realize that they are the evil rich.
TheCheifno 1 month ago 2
@TheCheifno I know all that. I find most liberals to be hypocrites when it comes to practicing what they preach. My point was that it is ironic, not too mention a little annoying, that I come to watch Steven's videos and I am forced to look at an ad for re-electing The One. Thanks for your input!
B1gDaddyB 4 weeks ago
@B1gDaddyB I find most politically-motivated human beings to be hypocrites when it comes to practicing what they preach. It ain't just Liberals, pal, as convenient as that would be...
joshdesk 4 weeks ago
@joshdesk You have point there, and I concur.
B1gDaddyB 4 weeks ago
@TheCheifno - Soros ( the Jew who sold out his own family and people to the Nazis ) anyone?
eagle275 3 weeks ago
@TheCheifno So same with Fox News right?
studyhistory2ctruth 2 weeks ago
@TheCheifno Projection at its worst! Leftist dont hate anyone... they believe in Fairless. Asking millionaires to pay their fair share is not hating the rich. In fact poor people pay a larger percentage of their spendable income on taxes than the rich because of Gas, sales, property, utilities and many other State taxes.
JUDALATION 1 week ago
Corporations that pay no corporate income taxes.
GE
Boeing
Bank of America
Exxon Mobil
and many more
Because they exploit loopholes in the thousands of pages in the tax code. Corporations lobby congress for corporate welfare and tax loopholes. Competitive capitalism we should have 50+ national banks instead of 5 to big to fail that crash the entire economy again. Solution: Get the money out of politics so that the Congress is beholden to the people not the corporations that bribe congress.
Davis30b 1 month ago
@Davis30b ALL corporations pass their taxes on to the consumer.
steve0281 1 month ago
@Davis30b Corporations pay taxes but fall under certain legal special circumstances. As far as I understand GE suffered a loss. I haven't the time to get into the details of every single circumstance but you're being intellectually dishonest by implying anything illegal was done. REITs for example pay no taxes period the investors are taxed but that's how they work legally but you can see how easy it is to sway opinion by leaving out crucial details.
fds9931 1 month ago
@Davis30b I also don't see how easily you people can be all death to the corporations. I hope you understand that lots of people probably work at one may have a good portion of their savings invested into one. The idea of getting money out of politics is also dumb where do you expect people to get the money or should they already be rich to run? I could lobby to build a much needed hospital or save the whales. I don't see why you want to restrict your own rights. It's dumb.
fds9931 1 month ago
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One more thing. Am I the only one that's noticed that the "rap sheet" Steven keeps referencing is not a rap sheet. It's a list of blog and other articles that have negative information about Occupiers. These articles sometimes but not always mention crimes--like "Communist Leader Cheered at Occupy Chicago is ALSO an OBAMA ORGANIZER" from "thegatewaypundit."
revjoesaves 1 month ago
I thought that Steven said his "Occupy's Greatest Hits" video was the last video we would need to see about the Occupy movement.
revjoesaves 1 month ago
Another closet twink like Pat McHenry.
judeseamus 1 month ago
@jttkirkfan2002 1. Sorry about the misquote. Bad keyboard.
2. Not liberal. In the middle.
3. I somewhat agree with with you.
4. The poor certainly aren't the ones with the better deal.
johnnyboy2537 1 month ago
@johnnyboy2537 When it comes to taxation, the poor are certainly getting a better deal. They get all of the services and someone else foots the bill. They don't even have to provide time picking up trash in return. And getting a "refund" of sometimes 300% of what one paid the previous year thanks to EIC is the height of unfairness. cont'
jtkirkfan2002 1 month ago
@jtkirkfan2002 cont'
However it would be nice if you didn't hear Newt in the debate last night if you look up the sound bites from a "non-mainstream" source, and hear what he said we conservatives want to do for the poor. We believe that everyone deserves the best and look for ways to pull people up from the bottom instead of down from the top.
jtkirkfan2002 1 month ago
@jtkirkfan2002 I'm quoting one because so many people are confused as to what they actually want. "The rich are the only ones paying taxes" Wow. That's ignorance. 47% of americans don't pay taxes. 61% of those make less than 20,000 a year who need food, medicine, housing, and many more things. By the way the 47% is the one being taxed without representation. They can't afford to buy a politician.
johnnyboy2537 1 month ago
@johnnyboy2537 Here we go again; according to the IRS:
The top 1/10th of one percent, one onethousandth of the population, pays 27% of all federal taxes.
The top 1% pays 34.27% of all federal taxes.
The top 10% pays 65.84%.
The top 50% pays 96.54%.
The bottom pays next to nothing, nothing or actually gets paid by the IRS thanks to the Earned Income Credit. Who sounds like they're getting a better deal to you especially when that bottom 50% gets all of the government services?
jtkirkfan2002 1 month ago
@jtkirkfan2002 "The top 1% pays 34.27% of all federal taxes.
The top 10% pays 65.84%.
The top 50% pays 96.54%.
The bottom pays next to nothing,"
Yeah but they earn next to nothing. And who needs government services if you are a multi mill or billionaire?
philateliceun 1 month ago
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@philateliceun You didn't finish or address the rest of the quote:
"The bottom pays next to nothing, nothing or actually gets paid by the IRS thanks to the Earned Income Credit."
I honestly don't have much of a problem with a poor person's tax bill getting reduced to zero by the proper exemptions and deductions. I DO have a problem with people getting EIC getting "refunds" of sometimes 300 to 500%. Those are MY tax dollars going to them. cont'
jtkirkfan2002 1 month ago
@jtkirkfan2002 cont'
I'm also sick of hearing "The 'rich' aren't paying their fair share when the numbers clearly show that they and to a lesser extent the middle class are the only ones paying anything at all.
BTW, "government services" are paid for by tax dollars. You must believe it is "fair" for those who make no contribution to be the ones to reap the benefits.
jtkirkfan2002 1 month ago
@johnnyboy2537 You lib's also need to realize that you can't misquote posts that you can't delete. I said, "The rich are the only ones paying any appreciable taxes." I also didn't suggest raising taxes on the poor. I suggested making people getting more back than they paid in from Earned Income Credit, which I bet half you libs have no idea what I'm talking about, provide community service in exchange for this IRS welfare.
jtkirkfan2002 1 month ago
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"You lib's also need to realize that you can't misquote posts that you can't delete."
No...but you can misquote the other person's post, or not address points. Makes lying on your part easier.
"provide community service in exchange for this IRS welfare."
such as what? In Michigan the welfare work programs pay pennies and takes single parents away from homes.
BTW- I'm all for welfare reform. I think Clinton was the last to actually attempt it.
hipstermi 1 month ago
johnnyboy2537 1 month ago
@johnnyboy2537 "Fair share" The rich are the only ones who actually pay any appreciable taxes in this country now. They also receive the least return on their investment. How about this: I'll support tax hikes for the rich if in order for someone to qualify for the Earned Income Credit, he or she has to contribute his or her "fair share" and provide 100 hours of community service.
jtkirkfan2002 1 month ago
@johnnyboy2537 Businesses are run by people. Is it fair that Congress be able to pass laws that affect businesses if those affected don't get their fair say? The American Revolution was started over a little thing called "taxation without representation".
jtkirkfan2002 1 month ago
This video had awesomeness in it. Liberals, it's time to stop sucking.
Omnicronimous 1 month ago
so rather than highlight issues of substance crowder focuses on things like arrests to discredit the movement? and hes chastising the guy for trying to actually focus on the intelligence points of political thought.. claiming the guy is using diversionary tactics because he doesnt want to focus on the amount of arrests?
FOCUSING ON ARRESTS OVER POLITICAL SUBSTANCE IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF A DIVERSIONARY TACTIC CROWDER.
LiekABaus 1 month ago
Now I know why you are referred to as " Steven "Chowder head" Crowder! Hey Stevie, quit worrying about what you put in your mouth, rather, worry about what comes out of it.
MrGeodee 1 month ago
This just in - Abandoned baby found in Occupy Washington encampment. Father under arrest.
jtkirkfan2002 1 month ago
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@jtkirkfan2002
"andoned baby found in Occupy Washington encampment. Father under arrest."
Golly gosh! More Fox news! Why not read the reports not just headlines dipshit: "Protesters at the camp said the man and baby were not part of the Occupy community but had been around the McPherson Square encampment for a few weeks"
I put out a long list of GOP sex scandals that didnt resign . YOU cry "isolated incidents" despite long list...now have a story of one guy not in the group
hipstermi 1 month ago
hey! no fair using facts !
halloranedward 1 month ago
@halloranedward The right is not only against making sense, but is actively engaged in prostituting it.Why don't yall just be more like your buddy Rush, and pop a couple more Oxycontins. Remember: don't stop taking your meds, sometimes the world just needs a break from the real you!
MrGeodee 1 month ago
@MrGeodee Ahhh yes, knowledge from someone who poses as a Vietnam Vet. Idiot.
ZoomieMSgt 1 month ago
The occupy movement is a movement about give me more.. See, the thing of it is? Taxing the rich won't do anything.. See how it works is, you tax the rich and it goes directly to the Federal Reserve.. Not them..
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
thankyou agian for a big cup of the truth it hurts the far left dumb asses to hear the truth make me feel good Down with the Occuturds
ugotcatfish 1 month ago
@Burns12009 yes but Socialism destroys success and it is wrong!
Sirile774 1 month ago
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LesClaypoolOnBass 1 month ago
@Viddaric If they are so upset about corporate America, how then could their attempts to demostrate and disrupt the Iowa caucuses do any good? That is a violation of federal law. Of course you won't need to worry about prosecution form Eric Holder and Obama's Justice Dept.
jtkirkfan2002 1 month ago
People CAN protest peacefully. Scumbags can't.
MyXxx77 1 month ago
An online wall street journal article points out why the "soak the rich" policies don't work, in fact they hurt the economy.Politicians in Annapolis created a millionaire tax bracket, raising the top marginal income-tax rate to 6.25%. One year later, one-third of the millionaires have disappeared from Maryland tax rolls. Instead of the coffers gaining the extra $106 million the politicians predicted, millionaires paid $100 million less in taxes than they did last year -- even at higher rates.
intrepidorator 1 month ago
@intrepidorator 2 thumbs up on this comment lol
Sirile774 1 month ago
@LesClaypoolOnBass awwwwww did Steven hurt your feelings? do you need to cry about it? let it out we understand the truth is hard to take in........
Sirile774 1 month ago
@xqeenx Seriously you are Calling Steve stupid and you are saying Liberals protest peacefully? rofl I can't stop laughing at you! my face hurts from laughing so much! please stop it......................ok ok ok I have to compose myself now! Alright what is your deal with someone carrying a gun?............Why does someones right to bare arms offend you? why are you scared? Why do you hate the Constitution? why?
Sirile774 1 month ago
It's funny...for someone who claims I don't think for myself, all YOU did was repeat "talking points". For instance, your "Democrat run media" you not only presented no proof...but that comes from the 1990s Newt Gingritch talking point manual ""Language: A Key Mechanism of Control"
Way to go, parrot boy!
Speaking of conservatives not thinking- do you go to church?
hipstermi 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk I have not seen/heard of any 'rape'?
you think those students at Berkly who were sitting on the ground peacefully, were dangerous rapist criminals that needed mass pepper spray and police violence?
This concept that you have that every single rally in the world has 'rape, fires and shooting' is wildly untrue.
Although, when Crowder went to one protest, it was a shame none of that happened to him if it were true....
xqeenx 1 month ago
@xqeenx Look dragqueenThose students were blocking the way for other students and they were not handcuffed, they could have moved anytime, they were obstructing a public walk way for the rest of the students, they were warned several times they would be sprayed if they don't move, so they got what they deserved. I would have walked right over them and kicked them as I did, If I were there. bunch of assholes. Yes there have been rapes at OWS protests, none at tea party protests.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"Look dragqueenThose students were blocking the way for other students and they were not handcuffed"
Funny how you just repeat what "pundits" said. Do you ever think for yourself?
Getting around those people would have taken an extra 2 seconds.
Lundberg v. Humboldt/ 9th Circuit precedent: pepper spraying peaceful protesters a violation of 4th amendment rights
Me: cite a position, back it up with law
You: opinions parroted from right wing pundits
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi Yeah, you keep telling yourself, you know shit, that you don't. I will always be smarter than, you and unlike you, I actually do think for myself. I'm sure you would walk around people blocking the way, you wouldn't want to upset anyone, because your a pussy. I'm not gonna let people push me around like that, peaceful demonstration doesn't mean blocking entrances. Not cool for the other students.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"I will always be smarter than, you and unlike you"
Parroting things I already said about you...nothing screams your inferiority more ;)
"I actually do think for myself"
Let's see...conservative- take cues from the fundi churches, who run the GOP, and take talking points from right wing talk show hosts, many of who you parroted.
Conservatives arent known for independent thought. Gingritch proved that when he wrote "Language: A Key Mechanism of Control".
SCRIPTED!
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi you talk down about Conservatives but yet you sit their and act like what you are saying makes any since. Why do you take cues from biased based News Medias which are controlled by Democrats? Why do you not think for yourself? because if you did you would have common sense. Plus where is your common sense?..........oh I know you leave that up Government, you know those guys you worship, that will take care of all your needs and wants...........pretty pathetic!
Sirile774 1 month ago
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@Sirile774
"yet you sit their and act like what you are saying makes any since"
You just typed I don't make any "sinse".
"Why do you take cues from biased based News Medias which are controlled by Democrats?"
AH yes...the scripted "talking point" conspiracy theory.
"Why do you not think for yourself"
I'm a lot independent that conservative assholism. For instance...do you go to church like Crowder? that place teaches inDOCTRINation...aka...DOCTRINE!
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi "You just typed I don't make any "sinse"."
You lie. Familiar quote to you? Cause you use "you lie" all the time. So YOU lie. The quote was "makes any since", not "sinse". See how stupid it is to get called a liar for the most inconsequential thing, something you do continually.
10com40cal 1 month ago
@hipstermi "AH yes...the scripted "talking point" conspiracy theory."
But whoa, you previously said: "Let's see...conservative- take cues from the fundi churches, who run the GOP, and take talking points from right wing talk show hosts, many of who you parroted." My response to your stupid comment, to coin your phrase: "AH yes...the scripted "talking point" conspiracy theory."
You're the proverbial hypocrite. Unbelievable.
10com40cal 1 month ago
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@hipstermi "I'm a lot independent that conservative assholism." Huh? If you're going to make fun of others for spelling or grammar mistakes, make ABSOLUTELY sure you don't make any yourself.
"For instance...do you go to church like Crowder? that place teaches inDOCTRINation...aka...DOCTRINE!" So you're saying you have no doctrine, no (liberal) position and have NEVER been indoctrinated in any way shape or form? No specific point of view or bias? LOL. Try again, hypocrite.
10com40cal 1 month ago
@hipstermi Hey hipstermi, I heard you also believe in magic space farts, intelligence from mud, walking fish, and planet of the apes, and you accuse me of believing in fairly tales? You just keep on buddy, you will get there one day.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"I heard you also believe in magic space farts, intelligence from mud, walking fish, and planet of the apes, and you accuse me of believing in fairly tales?"
The big bang is hardly a "space fart". You odd names of the others just shows your lack of intelligence and possibly lack of education.
But come on... water levitation? Super strength? Demon pigs? talking snake?
My qords are accurate. So ...do you REALLY believe in all that magic?
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi The big bang is mentioned as God's method of creating the universe, funny and this bible was written long before telescopes and modern astronomy or knowledge of physics. want the verse? Oh and lets see, levitation, super strength, pigs acting possessed, talking 'serpent' (translates to deceiver), v., your lizard bird, walking fish, computer yielding slime mud, planet of the apes, and Spontaneous existence (big bang w/o God) You sure you wanna have this tug of war?
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"funny and this bible was written long before telescopes and modern astronomy or knowledge of physics. want the verse?"
answer- do you believe in talking snake, super strength, levitation and other Bible magical powers?
Why dodge? you arent supposed to be afraid of faith in jesus.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi No I believe in giant magic space farts that defy the laws of physics and magical spontaneously poof everything into existence making talking monkey, walking fish, lizard birds that came after real birds, and computer/airplane producing slime mud that, given enough time, can make anything!! LOL really, keep tugging buddy, you winning!
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@Sirile774 This guy is so paranoid he thinks commenters like yourself are really me using an alternate account! He doesn't think for himself, in fact I believe he doesn't think much at all.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@hipstermi Actually it's you liberals that can't think for yourselves, and you deny historical and modern truth. You call us what you are yourselves. And you parrot often while I am original in thought, but hey you might think I sound like others that stick to the truth because the truth doesn't change, lies do.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk like the historical truth of a virgin birth, walking on water, and coming back from the dead that most of you republicans believe
LesClaypoolOnBass 1 month ago
@LesClaypoolOnBass Plenty of democrats that also believe that. What's you point? Should I assume you believe in magical space farts, intelligence from mud, and planet of the apes?
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
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"Plenty of democrats that also believe that. What's you point?"
The Democrats arent trying to pass laws and agenda based on the magical stories?
Personally...i'd like to see LESS religious people in office. But we know you conservatives attack anyone not Christian enough so that's not going to happen.
hipstermi 1 month ago
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@hipstermi "The Democrats arent trying to pass laws and agenda based on the magical stories.."
What specific laws and agenda are you talking about? Name them - name the laws and agenda that conservatives are trying to pass that have to do with "magical stories".
10com40cal 1 month ago
@hipstermi Sure they are, they believe in lizard birds, walking fish, intelligence from slim mud, magic space fart, Not the big band mentioned in the bible, planet of the apes, (based on pig's tooth - remember Montana man lol) Chinese love you guys, they keep 'producing' the fossils that your friends want to be 'found' for the right price. They are so creative and talented. Shit they know how to make pretty good fake leather to!
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"Sure they are, they believe in lizard birds, walking fish, intelligence from slim mud, magic space fart"
despite giving "funny" names you havent proved thos are commonly believed scientific concepts. Your ignorance in the science is noted.
"planet of the apes,"
Work of fiction set in the FUTURE. No one "believes" in that, idiot.
Now answer- do YOU believe in sorcerers, spells, mediums...your Bible says they are real.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi You don't believe in Rise of the planet of the apes?, where they become humans and take over the world, NWAAHh that could never happen right? no evolutionist/Darwinist thinks that ever happened, that's fiction. LOL YOUR RIGHT!! Man I love you dude, can we be friends?
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"remember Montana man lol)"
People who made a mistake...so what? Let's look at Christian idiots who fell for scams:
- the Shroud of Turpin
- Peter & Elizabeth Popoff claiming "god" talked to them. Amazing Randi exposed it was a scam with radio
- crying Mary statue (in Ontario and other places)
- pretend spirit baby talk/ speaking in tongues as a "language"
You dipshits believe anything people wave a cross at and call a "miracle"
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi
From what I saw and read the Shroud of Turin has yet to be explained.
regelemihai 1 month ago
@hipstermi They didn't make a mistake with Montana man, they got caught, that's all, because some scientists don't have an AGENDA, like many do. You see today, the mainstream is atheism/evolution hand in hand. That is mainstream politically defended science, not actually seeking the truth objectively.
You dipshits believe anything people wave a cross at and call a "miracle"
And you believe?.... (drum roll)
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
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@weseyedwalk
"Yes there have been rapes at OWS protests, none at tea party protests. "
You were already taught the truth- accusations made, investigations, and none of the rape accusations were found to be true.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi Sure, swept under the rug, by the left liberal median Ha? yeah I have some beach front property in the desert I would like to sell you.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@Burns12009 That may be, but I'm not against Obama because of what the Republicans or Democrats do/say. I hold conservative values and that doesn't always line up with Republican values. It's that simple. There's no point in arguing about Obama's political party or who he lines up with now versus 10 or 50 years ago. He's a liberal and he's marching to the Democrat tune right now. Either way, he has been a failure and he is ruining the country. No label will change that.
Nixmix24 1 month ago
@AsifIcarebear3 Are you oblivious to what Obama has done and is trying to do? The only "Republican" policy you can make a case about is taking out Bin Laden... But who wouldn't have pulled that trigger? Everything he is trying to do is to expand government and raise taxes, just because he hasn't been successful doesn't mean he's "Republican."
What's your point anyways? It's obvious that all you have is rhetoric. I never claimed to be a Republican. I'm a conservative. There's a difference.
Nixmix24 1 month ago
@Nixmix24 Are you yourself completely oblivious to everything that has happened? Obama talks the talk of a progressive, and then he lowers taxes to the rich, slashes the budget, doesn't end the wars, passes the NDAA, doesn't shut down GTMO, bombs Americans overseas without a trial, and hopes he isn't seen for what he is; a conservative. What he says and what he does are two vastly, incredibly different things.
AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
@AsifIcarebear3 Keeping the taxes where they are isn't lowering them. If any cuts to the budget have been made, it's because of the congress, the president does't have the power. You can't just end wars, if we could, Obama would have. GTMO also can't just be shut down because nobody wants the people in GTMO. Bombs Americans overseas? More rhetoric. Every point you've made has been invalid because he has either been forced to do it or he can't change it anyways. Nice try.
Answer my question now.
Nixmix24 1 month ago
@Nixmix24 He isn't keeping them where they are. The taxes now are lower than they have ever been. The president isn't completely irrelevant in the negotiations. Obama has "buckled" to the republicans over and over, without even giving them a fight. Of course you can't just leave over night, but you can leave well before - was it 2024 he said? - and not have a collapsing country. Obama promised shutting GTMO down, he failed. Because he's republican. Anwar al-Awlaki was bombed. Also: NDAA.
AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
@AsifIcarebear3 When did he lower taxes? How about some evidence to back up your mountains of rhetoric? Obama has been pushing for more taxes on millionaires constantly... like Democrats always do. He promised to shut down GTMO to win an election before he educated himself on the facts of the matter.. like a typical liberal. His failures to please liberals like yourself is due to the fact that he can't just do what the liberals want him to do without ruining the country even more than he has.
Nixmix24 1 month ago
@Nixmix24 Googling isn't hard. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act and Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010 both cut taxes as well as extending Bush tax cuts.
Taxes on millionaires are historically low, and - coincidentally - the economy is in shambles. Low taxes doesn't always equate job creation, as history has clearly shown.
I don't know what liberals want, or if I'm one, but the political spectrum in the US is very, very, very conservative.
AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
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@AsifIcarebear3 All of which is offset by the tax increases for Obamacare. Again, you have no point.
"Taxes on millionaires are historically low..."
Not because of Obama!
"...coincidentally - the economy is in shambles."
If you taxed the rich 100% it wouldn't put a dent in the recovery. In fact, there would be no jobs because the rich hire, not the poor, and they would have no money to do so. How about you back up your claim with some evidence.
You know nothing about the political spectrum.
Nixmix24 1 month ago
@Nixmix24 The only question you seem to have asked is: "What's your point?" which I think is abundantly clear. Obama isn't democratic. The political spectrum has shifted so insanely much to the right because of politicians being bought wholesale by the very wealthy, something OWS tries to end. Do you think it's right for the wealthy to be able to lobby and literally buy politicians? Do you argue that it doesn't corrupt -at all- when the people who regulate receive money from those they regulate?
AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
@AsifIcarebear3 Like I said, all of your points are illegitimate. You haven't given a single good reason why Obama isn't a democrat. Everything he does is to support the Democrats. You refuse to see that everything he has actually been able to accomplish, like healthcare, has been liberal, bigger government, entitlement bull crap. Just because he is a failure, doesn't mean that he is Republican. Have you ever thought that you might just be too liberal?
Nixmix24 1 month ago
@Nixmix24 Obama is agreeing to budget cuts left, right and center, without even asking for tax increases, and you call him liberal? He won't even consider legalising marijuana, something that would benefit the US through taxes as well as give people more freedom (I don't smoke), or raising taxes (except when he's campaigning, which is an entirely different Obama), or cutting the military substantially. Not even common sense things like taking money, lobbying, out of politics. You should love him
AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
@AsifIcarebear3 He's agreeing because he HAS to. Lets not forget that the budget cuts are a drop in the bucket. I would give him more credit if he was actually willing to do some budget cuts that need to be done rather than budget cuts that are done purely for show. Don't be naive. Lots of people, liberal and conservative, are against legalizing pot. That's a pathetic point. One weak point after another without talking about the real issues and you think I should love Obama? Laughable indeed.
Nixmix24 1 month ago
@Nixmix24 And why does he "HAVE" to? Because the power lies with the right, as the political spectrum has shifted enormously to the right.
I brought up the pot point because the country wants it to happen.It's time, and as a democrat(liberal/progressive?) he could easily lead the way in this regard.
My points aren't weak, you just don't accept that Obama has passed very little that wasn't done through the conservative mindset. Show that you aren't the one full of rhetoric, and prove me wrong.
AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
@AsifIcarebear3 He HAS to because it would be political suicide not to. He's always saying he's the one compromising. If he isn't willing to compromise on inconsequential cuts, then everyone would see right through his lies.
You want pot, not the country.
You're points are extremely weak. You have nothing to back it up and nothing but rhetoric that we've all heard a million times. You are a broken record and I already proved you wrong. Come back when you have something new that you can back up.
Nixmix24 1 month ago
@Nixmix24 I'm the one who's only full of rhetoric? Just skip the bullshit dude, no need to waste the characters on the youtube comment.
There's a difference between compromising, and giving -everything- the other person wants up front. Which he has done over and over again.
And now it's time you prove to me you're not all talk, by showing to me how Obama is not in fact just a republican in democrat-clothing. What has he done that was truly democrat, when he had the power to do so?
AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
@AsifIcarebear3 "Just skip the bullshit dude, no need to waste the characters on the youtube comment."
I could say the same about every comment of yours.
I said to come back when you have something new to add. Even if you are absolutely right, I don't love Obama and you aren't going to convince me otherwise. I've already given you multiple examples of what you're asking but you choose to ignore them in favor of your own rhetoric. Unless you have something new or an actual point to make, move on.
Nixmix24 1 month ago
@Nixmix24 "Even if you are absolutely right, I don't love Obama and you aren't going to convince me otherwise." Are you actually admitting denying reality then?
The only shadow of an example you've put forth is that Obama was forced. That's not a good argument, unless you think the president doesn't have any power to negotiate with at all. Show me you're not all talk, and give me examples of how Obama has earned your distaste. It seems to me like you're getting everything you want out of him.
AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
@AsifIcarebear3 "Are you actually admitting denying reality then?"
No, it isn't reality and he has done far more than the pathetic examples you have given that would make him way too liberal for me. You refuse to acknowledge them because you're trying to push an idea and the facts get in the way.
That wasn't an example, I gave you examples such as Obamacare, always pushing for class warfare and taxing the rich. I could go on and on. You don't know what I want. I've gotten NOTHING out of him.
Nixmix24 1 month ago
@Nixmix24 You said that even if I'm absolutely right, that Obama is a secret republican, only passing republican legislation, you would still oppose him. Denying reality. What he says and what he does are two different things.
Did you see who he wants to appoint chief of staff? Jacob Lew, former emplyee at Citigroup, who tried - and failed - at making money off the housing collapse, received 900.000 from Citigroup just before joining the Obama administration. Would a real democrat choose Lew?
AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
@AsifIcarebear3 Just because I'm opposed to him, that doesn't mean that I'm denying reality. First, as I said, it's not reality, and second, I don't like what he has passed even if you want to say that it is Republican. That's why I'm opposed. I don't care if you think he's a Republican. You can believe what you want. I'm not a Republican, I'm a conservative. Call Obama's legislation Republican all day long, that doesn't mean that it's conservative. Don't pretend to know what I want.
Nixmix24 1 month ago
@Nixmix24 It's very simple. I said that Obama is a republican, and that you have no reason to dislike him, as he passes mainly conservative legislation - or strips away legislation, to which you replied, that even if I was absolutely right, you would still dislike him. In other words, even if he is a republican, who acts as such, you'd still dislike him. Are you denying reality or are you simply horribly racist? I think you just messed up, and don't want to admit it, so I'll let it slide.
AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
@AsifIcarebear3 It's very simple. You think he's a Republican and you assume that I have no reason to dislike him. I gave you multiple reasons to dislike him. Your logic is at an elementary school level. Do you like every Democrat? Obviously not. Even if he was a Republican, I don't have to like him. What kind of ignorant logic is that? I'm denying YOUR reality that YOU created, not the actual reality. And of course you would play the race card even tough I haven't given you a reason.
Nixmix24 1 month ago
@Nixmix24 It's so excrutiatingly simple. You have very little reason to dislike him, and you deny it outright. I didn't pull the race card with joy, but when you base your opinions on absolutely nothing, then I have to dig a little deeper. If Obama had been a republican, you'd have loved him. Or are you able to list me a ton of reasons - instead of just saying that you've done so - and prove me wrong? I'm anxiously awaiting your "lol but i alredy did :D" non-answer.
AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
@AsifIcarebear3 It's excruciatingly simple. You think you know what I like without knowing me at all, and you're wrong. Nothing matters to you but your own preconceived notions.
"I didn't pull the race card with joy"
You're a liar. I gave you multiple reasons why I don't like Obama, none of them have to do with race. You refuse to engage any of those reasons I've given you because you have no rebuttal. Instead, like a child, you plug your ears while yelling, "la la la I can't hear you!"
Grow up.
Nixmix24 1 month ago
@Nixmix24 As I expected, you backed down. End of discussion.
AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
@AsifIcarebear3 I'm not going to repeat myself for the third time to someone who doesn't want to hear it. You aren't worth the effort. Work on your reading comprehension. Since you can't grow up and use your head, this conversation is over. There's no reasoning with someone with their head up their ass.
Nixmix24 1 month ago
@AsifIcarebear3 Oh and to answer your question: "Would a real democrat choose Lew?"
Yes.
The housing collapse is the Democrats', like Barney Frank, fault. Would a Democrat appoint someone who would make money from the Democrat failure? Of course they would. You're a fool if you think otherwise. Look at the rest of the Communists, Socialists and other Lefty radicals Obama has appointed as Czars. Lew is the least of our worries when it comes to Democrats appointing scumbags. Good try.
Nixmix24 1 month ago
@Nixmix24 "The housing collapse is the Democrats', like Barney Frank, fault."
Yeah, the bankers have no guilt whatsoever. Doesn't matter the purposefully gave out subprime loans and then betted against them; making money as they failed, and that the conservatives are against putting regulation in place which would prevent the banks from crashing the economy again.
Obama a communist? He's hardly even a social democrat - which is what you call communism.
Communist? This is getting stupid.
AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
@AsifIcarebear3 "Yeah, the bankers have no guilt whatsoever."
And when did I say that? Oh, right, I didn't
"Obama a communist?"
Here you go again, putting words in my mouth.
The bottom line is, you are intellectually dishonest. You don't debate what I say, you debate what you THINK I mean. Try some integrity next time.
Of course there's some blame to be had on the banker's shoulders. But you fail to take into account the fact that Frank forced the banks to make those bad loans. Educate yourself.
Nixmix24 1 month ago
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@Nixmix24 ""Yeah, the bankers have no guilt whatsoever."
And when did I say that? Oh, right, I didn't" to which I can quote yourself:
"The housing collapse is the Democrats', like Barney Frank, fault"
You're saying democrats led to the housing collapse (do I really have to virtually explain to you what you said in verbatim?), and didn't even acknowledge that anyone else - that is, the actual purpetrators - had any role in it. I'm not putting words in your mouth. Try some intelligence next time
AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
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AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
@Nixmix24 Yeah, I'm positive Frank reaaaaally had to do a lot of armtwisting to force those weak little bankers into making millions and millions and millions of dollars.
Try thinking and reflecting, while you're busy educating yourself. Also, may I recommend being critical of your sources? It's awesome.
Unless you have something remotely interesting to bring to the table - which I have no hopes of - this is the end of the discussion.
AsifIcarebear3 1 month ago
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