@sarutobi4th I don't mind it either, I mean I think the whole thing is kind of silly, but the only reason why people freak out at it is because so many people think Sonic loves Amy for some stupid reason.
@Jacktheinfinite101 i do mind alot with the kiss but not because of the amy thing,but because it's weird,a human making out with an animal?WTC?if elise was a rat it would be more aceptable.
@minsecous Um a rat making out with a hedgehog? I don't see how that's any different, it's still intersperses so it still has the same "problem" but then again, we're talking about a cartoon character. In Family Guy Brian is a dog and he dates humans all the time, in real life that would be gross, but it's a cartoon.
@Jacktheinfinite101 kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk(why did i laught?)
A Wikia is basically a Wikipedia for a specific thing, except the information on a Wikia is usually more reliable than Wikipedia because the Wikia is all about that subject and is run by fans of that subject. A prime example is Wookieepedia (yeah they do a lot of Wikipeda puns sometimes) which is that Wikia for Star Wars; there is so much detailed info on everything SW related there that your head would explode.
@44automag117 Um not really. To begin with none of the Sonic Wiki's are official, an official wiki would be run by SEGA themselves. Also the most commonly visited Sonic Wiki I can think of is the Sonic News Network, which is a shame because it kind of sucks.
@Jacktheinfinite101 Thanks for saying that. I didn't expect anyone to agree with that, especially not the creator of the video. I honestly explode every time I see or hear someone say "Sonic's just hiding his feelings from Amy" or something like that. Just one question, changing the subject, how did you find out Yuji Naka said that? People always say Yuji Naka said something, but I've never figured out where they saw he said that.
Thank you. Agree 100%. I can understand if they want to incorporate some type of romantic sub plot but not with Sonic. Yuji Naka said himself he can't see Sonic settling down with anyone.
I would've loved it if they had kept Robotnik's (or Eggman >_>) appearance from Sonic Next-Gen, I dunno about others, but I loved the more realistic look they gave him, he looks .... Human, and pretty damn evil while he does it
I'm neutral on that topic because I could care less about it. Although I do agree that he seemed at his evilest at Sonic Next Gen, but he was overshadowed by Mephiles in that game so people probably didn't take note of the darker side of his personality.
@Jacktheinfinite101 Yeah, its a shame really .. still, I haven't really played all that much of Next-Gen really :C I got fed up using Silver, but overall the bad point I can make and complain about is the horrible loading and well, Silver's Controls for me,, I like Silver, just not his gameplay D:
I'd still say Shadow was the worst 3D Sonic game, SA2 FTW
Silver didn't bother me too much. I used to think of Shadow as the worst 3D Sonic game, until Sonic and the Black Knight came out. Sonic Unleashed FTW
That hapened to me too. I had every single character in both games and mhy Ps2 fucked up and I had to switch them over to my PS3, doing it all over again.
There's this person that played sonic riders and he said that he hated the game and the worst part is that he sucks so bad at that game mostly on doing tricks. By that I mean he doesn't hold the jump button, he doesn't even attempt to even press it. There was high chance that he didn't read the manual or the manual didn't tell him enough details.
Oh yeah, and I also can't see my way to even acknowledging Silver's worth at all. He doesn't seem appealing or interesting at all, he just sounds whiney and looks ridiculous. Plus, why another hedgehog?
Well I don't know if you noticed but Sonic '06 is the closest Sonic game to SA3 so it would make sense to have another hedgehog. Besides, now he's equal to Mario
Interesting parallel, but highly debatable argument. I don't really see how Sonic '06 is closest to SA3; one could argue that's Heroes or Unleashed. Also, being "equal to Mario" isn't a very good qualification, especially based solely on the numeric count of the race of protagonists. It still ignores character appeal, development, and execution, which are things I believe Silver severely lacked in this game. Then again, the whole game can be filed likewise the same for more than just glitches.
Yes I should. But be aware that I've seen enough playthroughs to see how Silver--and everyone else--were executed in-game and in the cutscenes. Sadly, I'm not impressed. But perhaps I'll feel differently once I play the game myself.
Well I liked it a lot more when I first played and believe it or not, the glitches are the real killer for the game, that's how glitchy it really is. Youtube is OVERFILLED with glitch videos, especially on Darkspinessonic's channel (although thos glitches are cool). There is actually a glitch to make one of the peirs in the first level dissappear when you're running ont it and all it takes to perorm that glitch is missing one certain line of rongs (that you shouldn't even be able to miss).
It's nice to see some different opinions once in a while, even if most--including me--can't see any way to agree.
I really didn't like Heroes, but it was still fun to play in some parts, and I could easily see it as a much better game. I'm not sure how someone can like '06, but having not played it and taking it from majority public consensus that it is the most terrible game, that's what I'll naturally think. It certainly looks like it plays differently than Shadow and Heroes, though.
Well most fans overreact GREATLY to Sonic '06. It was glitchy and long loading screens, but it was only one game and people were like "THE WHOLE SERIES IS RUINED BECAUSE OF ONE BAD GAME!", which I find completely retarded, there are too many Sonic games out there that one game could ruin the series. I mean, this montage is 13 parts long and it doesn't even include every Sonic game. That's about two hours.
Well, sure. But compound that with people who were really disappointed with Heroes, Shadow, Riders, and even Secret Rings (which I think looks all right), and you've got a widespread fanbase fueled with discontent and outrage at how badly Sonic's games have become. Overreacting? Possible, but not likely. There's at least sufficient cause for some people to be really pissed, as far as I've seen. Haven't played the game myself, so I'll have to reserve my final judgment, but I've seen playthroughs
What are you talking about? Secret Rings was very popular among the fans and should have made up for '06. Also the fans didn't even react to Heroers and Shadow like they did with '06. Heroes was actually popular back then. The main reason people reacted negatively to ''06 was because the trailers made it look like what Sonic Unleashed actually is and they were shocked to find out how bad it was. When I realized it was bad I was like "Oh well, the next game will be better."
Well, I'm glad to see you're a little more level-headed.
Most people will agree that Secret Rings was a great game, if not a decent game--better than Black Knight by the looks of things--but people, I think, still hold it's controls against it. Heroes might have been popular, but I certainly think it's where the 3D Sonic games took a nasty dip in quality. As for Shadow, well, some people seem to think it's the worst if not '06. Dunno how it did upon release, but GT gave it a good score.
I remember reading articles that suggest it was popular, but definately not as popular as Heroes. As for Shadow, that probably is one of my least favorite 3D games (my leas favorite Sonic game period is Sonic Drift). Sonic heroes was definately where quality started to drop, but I think that's because they weren't used to working with other company's hardware and I know why '06 was bad, they had to change the engine halfway through, just like Sonicxtreme.
That's conceivable, but still up for debate I'll bet when it comes to Heroes' quality drop. I do remember reading something about '06 originally intended for Wii, but a last-minute change from Sega of Japan forced them to instead port it to the PS3 and the 360. Not to mention they were pressured into releasing it early for the holidays by Sony and/or Microsoft, so that crippled development even further. And then there's that whole issue with the beta testers. They shouldn't have released it then
the funny thing is that the earlier engine looked better, in fact I think it may have been an earlier build of the hedgehog engine, but the problem was that Sonic was HELL-A-SLOW! You see how slow he was in '06? Well the earlier build was like that but in slow motion. SEGA aslo said that a reason for the low quality was that they were still coming to grasps with the new next-gen technology, which is where I got my Heroes theory.
Hmm. I dunno, but there was just a lot wrong with what Sega/Sonic Team's been doing with Sonic from 2002-2006. Either they were lazy, making so many Sonic games that they lost touch of what makes games fun anymore (Ben Andac's allegation), or they were put into the most intolerable of situations. I'd wager it's a bit of all three, to be honest. I mean, what other dev team has done so poorly as Sonic Team did with Sonic, at least with '06?
@7chaoemerald Agreed. I dunno why Jack dislikes it that much. It was a fairly good game IMO, comparisons aside. This goes for Heroes also, which was awesome, although the PS2 version had fucked up framerate and slight control issues. Same with Shadow the hedgehog, although they went overboard with the story: making you get all 10 alternate endings before unlocking the true final story was way too tedious.
Which game? If it is Black Knight then don't even get me started on why, Secre Rings was far superior (Black Knight has a better Story but Secret Rings has better gameplay). I own Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog on the Ps2 but I recently got my hands on Sonic Heroes for the GC and I was surprised at how much more fun it was (still not awesome though), as for Shadow the whole 10 endings thins is something that killed the game for me, just like the 4 story thing from Heroes.
@Jacktheinfinite101 No need to be that serious dude, it´s all a matter of opinion. For example, for me, Black Knight was far superior to Secret rings, which had beautiful graphics and a great concept, but ruined by horrendous controls and bad stage design (mostly during missions). Yes, sue me if you want, but BK´s control, being kinda shaky, was at least decent, while runnig automatically was a pain in the ass specially once sonic gets uber fast. It´s a matter of tastes.
Um sorry if I my comment seemed hostile, I was just speaking in opinion too. Anyway it is all opinion and we are each entitled into our own, but I do think that our difference in opinion for those two games is actually pretty funny, why, because because for both of us, it's the controls. I'm not a big fan of on-rails, but at least they did a good job at that, when I play BK, the controls seem too sensitive and unresponsive at the same time (that doesn't seem physically possible XD).
Nah, no big deal. As you say, it´s a matter of tastes. I know what you mean with BK, in that it responds at the worst moment.
I prefer nunchuk and a more traditional control scheme but the thing that I dislike the most about SR is the rpg style level system: the fact that you can´t gold rank a stage in your first go even if you do it perfectly because you have to level up, bugs me. I mean, Since the old days, a perfect run means S rank, be it on your first go or not.
That is true about the RPG system, Sonic Unleashed did a great job at setting the standards for upgrades in a Sonic game, I was irritated about having to start off so slow (in both story book games), there is a clear difference in Unleashed between level 1 speed and MAX speed, but Sonic is still VERY fast no matter what level in that game. In fact the main reason BK was saved of that flaw was because getting the best rank was really determined on how many enemies you beat.
Sonic 06 was fun(Played the demo only though) but the reason WHY people hate it is not just the Glitches(Which most are just fun ones), its because of the Speed of Sonic. Though I can agree with liking it more than Shadow but not Heroes. Though they should of NOT made Elise because she's just the worst character in Sonic History IMO. They also should of made the game LOOK more cartoony. Sonic is just to tall & the gloves are HUGE!
Most of the last things you said I disagree on. I agree with the first things you said, but, I didn't hate Elise, I thought of her as an anti-Amy charm (I hate SonAmy).
the reason most people i know hate elise is because it an animal and human and if you dont get what im trying to say anima + human = beastiality!!!!!!!!! and the whole princess thing is ripping off mario in my opinon
Oh please, that's just an excuse that they say. Beastiality is when two animals of different species mate. So basically, almost every Sonic couple could be considered beastiality. Also, it's SEGA's universe, they can decide what's normal in it an abnormal, also, if a two-tailed fox can fall in love with a rose (Sonic X), which is inter-kingdom romance (much weirder than inter-species), then a human should be able to fall in love with a hedgehog.
first i have some problems with sonic x and read your own comment "a human should be able to fall in love with a hedgehog." doesnt that sound a bit weird to you? just an opinon
Yes but doesn't a blue hedgehog that can talk, run at the speed of sound, has human features sound weird to you. The whole Sonic series is supposed to be strange. Just an opinion,
I honestly don't hate Sonic '06. Though, that kiss is just too much.
revanisthebest 5 hours ago
Why did so many people think sonic riders was shit? It was EPIC!!!
smoglessbutton4 2 days ago
...Did you have to include the scene BEFORE the final boss of 06?
The only good part about it apart from the transformation is Silver's face. Poor guy saw it coming.
TARDISES 6 days ago
how the hell do you get super sonic in riders
Arceon493 2 weeks ago
super silver is badass
awesomesauce1228 2 months ago
I liked the story of Sonic '06 too. So much I had to write an adapt of it...damn proud I did too.
JasondeLEpee 3 months ago
IT IS SUPER SONIC RACING!
AmericnOsttle10 3 months ago in playlist More videos from Jacktheinfinite101
@sarutobi4th I don't mind it either, I mean I think the whole thing is kind of silly, but the only reason why people freak out at it is because so many people think Sonic loves Amy for some stupid reason.
Jacktheinfinite101 4 months ago
@Jacktheinfinite101 i do mind alot with the kiss but not because of the amy thing,but because it's weird,a human making out with an animal?WTC?if elise was a rat it would be more aceptable.
minsecous 4 months ago
@minsecous Um a rat making out with a hedgehog? I don't see how that's any different, it's still intersperses so it still has the same "problem" but then again, we're talking about a cartoon character. In Family Guy Brian is a dog and he dates humans all the time, in real life that would be gross, but it's a cartoon.
Jacktheinfinite101 4 months ago
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minsecous 4 months ago
@Jacktheinfinite101 kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk(why did i laught?)
minsecous 4 months ago
Interesting fact Solaris phase1 has 6 horns, 6 claws, and six stones on its back...... 666 Sonic's fighting satan.
THEMEGAMETALSHADOW 5 months ago
the only thing I like about Sonic 06 is only the music.
TwilightLink77 5 months ago
in the background when elise kisses sonic silvers eyes are wide as hell!
1997theonlyone 5 months ago
For future references, it's spelled "psychic".
XDemonXMewtwoX 5 months ago
7:29 I dont know whats worse! the fact that she just kissed an animal, or a corpse :/
KyleAB5000 5 months ago
7:29 That is just disgusting!
7ruthie 11 months ago
well he is from the "future" so he will be in "future" games.
DJman601 1 year ago
*does pun drum solo*
Jacktheinfinite101 1 year ago 3
@DJman601 ANOTHER DJ OMG and i think that will happen.
DJgamer98 8 months ago in playlist Super sonic bosses
@DJgamer98 I'M NOT A REAL FUCKING DJ
DJman601 7 months ago
@DJman601 I know but we have both DJ in our names!!!
DJgamer98 7 months ago
@Jacktheinfinite101 Wikia?
ChrisGamer13 1 year ago
A Wikia is basically a Wikipedia for a specific thing, except the information on a Wikia is usually more reliable than Wikipedia because the Wikia is all about that subject and is run by fans of that subject. A prime example is Wookieepedia (yeah they do a lot of Wikipeda puns sometimes) which is that Wikia for Star Wars; there is so much detailed info on everything SW related there that your head would explode.
Jacktheinfinite101 1 year ago
@Jacktheinfinite101 sonic retro is the official sonic wiki
44automag117 3 months ago
@44automag117 Um not really. To begin with none of the Sonic Wiki's are official, an official wiki would be run by SEGA themselves. Also the most commonly visited Sonic Wiki I can think of is the Sonic News Network, which is a shame because it kind of sucks.
Jacktheinfinite101 3 months ago
@Jacktheinfinite101 Thanks for saying that. I didn't expect anyone to agree with that, especially not the creator of the video. I honestly explode every time I see or hear someone say "Sonic's just hiding his feelings from Amy" or something like that. Just one question, changing the subject, how did you find out Yuji Naka said that? People always say Yuji Naka said something, but I've never figured out where they saw he said that.
ChrisGamer13 1 year ago
I don't remember the exact site, but there is a link to the site on Sonic's page on Sonic Wikia (unless they removed it which they better not have).
Jacktheinfinite101 1 year ago
SonElise--no. SonAmy--no. SonAnyone--no.
ChrisGamer13 1 year ago
Thank you. Agree 100%. I can understand if they want to incorporate some type of romantic sub plot but not with Sonic. Yuji Naka said himself he can't see Sonic settling down with anyone.
Jacktheinfinite101 1 year ago 2
I hate elise!!!!! Sonamy forever!!!!!!!!!!!
emilythefoxsparks12 1 year ago
Actually neither. Yuji Naka himself said that he could never see Sonic in a relationship meaning that all of Sonic's "love interests" are one way.
Jacktheinfinite101 1 year ago
i thought silver was unnesscary
anonfalcon 1 year ago
I would've loved it if they had kept Robotnik's (or Eggman >_>) appearance from Sonic Next-Gen, I dunno about others, but I loved the more realistic look they gave him, he looks .... Human, and pretty damn evil while he does it
leon2457 1 year ago
I'm neutral on that topic because I could care less about it. Although I do agree that he seemed at his evilest at Sonic Next Gen, but he was overshadowed by Mephiles in that game so people probably didn't take note of the darker side of his personality.
Jacktheinfinite101 1 year ago
@Jacktheinfinite101 Yeah, its a shame really .. still, I haven't really played all that much of Next-Gen really :C I got fed up using Silver, but overall the bad point I can make and complain about is the horrible loading and well, Silver's Controls for me,, I like Silver, just not his gameplay D:
I'd still say Shadow was the worst 3D Sonic game, SA2 FTW
leon2457 1 year ago
Silver didn't bother me too much. I used to think of Shadow as the worst 3D Sonic game, until Sonic and the Black Knight came out. Sonic Unleashed FTW
Jacktheinfinite101 1 year ago
same i liked sonic the hedgehog for xbox360 its the bomb!
Shonic360 1 year ago
7:25 silvers face is priceless xD
nazothedragon 1 year ago
funny how amy doesn't look jealous, hehe
thethechief117 1 year ago
Well if you if you look carefully you can see that Amy is crying in the background.
Jacktheinfinite101 1 year ago
wow i didnt notice that before its hard to tell though cause it be super sonic making amy's eyes shine
thethechief117 1 year ago
but seriusly the first time i played sonic the hedgehog i throught amy was gonna fire her lazaaa at elis of kissin sonic......
greenherop64 1 year ago
Instead if you look she looks sad instead of angry. Cue Nelson.
Jacktheinfinite101 1 year ago
jack wats with u and kisses in this vid XD
greenherop64 1 year ago
why the hell are elises legs diferent to the rest of her skin!
MetalShadowChaos 1 year ago
Orange pantyhose.
Jacktheinfinite101 1 year ago
@MetalShadowChaos stockings genius
greenherop64 1 year ago
OMG!!! She kissed Sonic!! Amy is gonna kill her
ShadicSonamy101 2 years ago
I know who that last person is you unlock him by playing 12 hours straight or at least thats what i did
ShadicSonamy101 2 years ago
super sonic was sweet i had every single charectar untill MY FUCKIN PS2 BROKE *sigh* allwell
KoopaKidComms 2 years ago
That hapened to me too. I had every single character in both games and mhy Ps2 fucked up and I had to switch them over to my PS3, doing it all over again.
Jacktheinfinite101 2 years ago
Yours too?!
I had mine for at least 6 years! R.I.P PS2...
acepilot1997 2 years ago
There's this person that played sonic riders and he said that he hated the game and the worst part is that he sucks so bad at that game mostly on doing tricks. By that I mean he doesn't hold the jump button, he doesn't even attempt to even press it. There was high chance that he didn't read the manual or the manual didn't tell him enough details.
earthshaker1213 2 years ago
6:26
Nooooooo.....I...I....I can't comment about how WRONG you are...
7chaoemerald 2 years ago
I stand by that thought.
Jacktheinfinite101 2 years ago
6:21
LOLOLOLOL!!! Great comment!!!
7chaoemerald 2 years ago
4:07
SOOOOO TRUEEEEEE!!!!
7chaoemerald 2 years ago
How do you unlock Super Sonic in Sonic Riders?
skellington15 2 years ago
Complete every mission with a gold medal.
Jacktheinfinite101 2 years ago
What does JK means?
earthshaker1213 2 years ago
Just Kidding
Jacktheinfinite101 2 years ago
Oh yeah, and I also can't see my way to even acknowledging Silver's worth at all. He doesn't seem appealing or interesting at all, he just sounds whiney and looks ridiculous. Plus, why another hedgehog?
Raveheart90 2 years ago
Well I don't know if you noticed but Sonic '06 is the closest Sonic game to SA3 so it would make sense to have another hedgehog. Besides, now he's equal to Mario
Sonic: 4 hedgehogs
Mario: 4 Itallian plumbers.
Jacktheinfinite101 2 years ago
Interesting parallel, but highly debatable argument. I don't really see how Sonic '06 is closest to SA3; one could argue that's Heroes or Unleashed. Also, being "equal to Mario" isn't a very good qualification, especially based solely on the numeric count of the race of protagonists. It still ignores character appeal, development, and execution, which are things I believe Silver severely lacked in this game. Then again, the whole game can be filed likewise the same for more than just glitches.
Raveheart90 2 years ago
Yes but you should play the game before making that judgement. Also the Mario thing was a joke.
Jacktheinfinite101 2 years ago
Yes I should. But be aware that I've seen enough playthroughs to see how Silver--and everyone else--were executed in-game and in the cutscenes. Sadly, I'm not impressed. But perhaps I'll feel differently once I play the game myself.
Raveheart90 2 years ago
Well I liked it a lot more when I first played and believe it or not, the glitches are the real killer for the game, that's how glitchy it really is. Youtube is OVERFILLED with glitch videos, especially on Darkspinessonic's channel (although thos glitches are cool). There is actually a glitch to make one of the peirs in the first level dissappear when you're running ont it and all it takes to perorm that glitch is missing one certain line of rongs (that you shouldn't even be able to miss).
Jacktheinfinite101 2 years ago
It's nice to see some different opinions once in a while, even if most--including me--can't see any way to agree.
I really didn't like Heroes, but it was still fun to play in some parts, and I could easily see it as a much better game. I'm not sure how someone can like '06, but having not played it and taking it from majority public consensus that it is the most terrible game, that's what I'll naturally think. It certainly looks like it plays differently than Shadow and Heroes, though.
Raveheart90 2 years ago
Well most fans overreact GREATLY to Sonic '06. It was glitchy and long loading screens, but it was only one game and people were like "THE WHOLE SERIES IS RUINED BECAUSE OF ONE BAD GAME!", which I find completely retarded, there are too many Sonic games out there that one game could ruin the series. I mean, this montage is 13 parts long and it doesn't even include every Sonic game. That's about two hours.
Jacktheinfinite101 2 years ago
Well, sure. But compound that with people who were really disappointed with Heroes, Shadow, Riders, and even Secret Rings (which I think looks all right), and you've got a widespread fanbase fueled with discontent and outrage at how badly Sonic's games have become. Overreacting? Possible, but not likely. There's at least sufficient cause for some people to be really pissed, as far as I've seen. Haven't played the game myself, so I'll have to reserve my final judgment, but I've seen playthroughs
Raveheart90 2 years ago
What are you talking about? Secret Rings was very popular among the fans and should have made up for '06. Also the fans didn't even react to Heroers and Shadow like they did with '06. Heroes was actually popular back then. The main reason people reacted negatively to ''06 was because the trailers made it look like what Sonic Unleashed actually is and they were shocked to find out how bad it was. When I realized it was bad I was like "Oh well, the next game will be better."
Jacktheinfinite101 2 years ago
Well, I'm glad to see you're a little more level-headed.
Most people will agree that Secret Rings was a great game, if not a decent game--better than Black Knight by the looks of things--but people, I think, still hold it's controls against it. Heroes might have been popular, but I certainly think it's where the 3D Sonic games took a nasty dip in quality. As for Shadow, well, some people seem to think it's the worst if not '06. Dunno how it did upon release, but GT gave it a good score.
Raveheart90 2 years ago
I remember reading articles that suggest it was popular, but definately not as popular as Heroes. As for Shadow, that probably is one of my least favorite 3D games (my leas favorite Sonic game period is Sonic Drift). Sonic heroes was definately where quality started to drop, but I think that's because they weren't used to working with other company's hardware and I know why '06 was bad, they had to change the engine halfway through, just like Sonicxtreme.
Jacktheinfinite101 2 years ago
That's conceivable, but still up for debate I'll bet when it comes to Heroes' quality drop. I do remember reading something about '06 originally intended for Wii, but a last-minute change from Sega of Japan forced them to instead port it to the PS3 and the 360. Not to mention they were pressured into releasing it early for the holidays by Sony and/or Microsoft, so that crippled development even further. And then there's that whole issue with the beta testers. They shouldn't have released it then
Raveheart90 2 years ago
the funny thing is that the earlier engine looked better, in fact I think it may have been an earlier build of the hedgehog engine, but the problem was that Sonic was HELL-A-SLOW! You see how slow he was in '06? Well the earlier build was like that but in slow motion. SEGA aslo said that a reason for the low quality was that they were still coming to grasps with the new next-gen technology, which is where I got my Heroes theory.
Jacktheinfinite101 2 years ago
Hmm. I dunno, but there was just a lot wrong with what Sega/Sonic Team's been doing with Sonic from 2002-2006. Either they were lazy, making so many Sonic games that they lost touch of what makes games fun anymore (Ben Andac's allegation), or they were put into the most intolerable of situations. I'd wager it's a bit of all three, to be honest. I mean, what other dev team has done so poorly as Sonic Team did with Sonic, at least with '06?
Raveheart90 2 years ago
@Raveheart90
Black Knight is good, better than Secert Rings for controls, plus voice acting, surprisingly, IS SUPERB, IMO!!
7chaoemerald 2 years ago
@7chaoemerald Agreed. I dunno why Jack dislikes it that much. It was a fairly good game IMO, comparisons aside. This goes for Heroes also, which was awesome, although the PS2 version had fucked up framerate and slight control issues. Same with Shadow the hedgehog, although they went overboard with the story: making you get all 10 alternate endings before unlocking the true final story was way too tedious.
Easmodx 1 year ago
Which game? If it is Black Knight then don't even get me started on why, Secre Rings was far superior (Black Knight has a better Story but Secret Rings has better gameplay). I own Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog on the Ps2 but I recently got my hands on Sonic Heroes for the GC and I was surprised at how much more fun it was (still not awesome though), as for Shadow the whole 10 endings thins is something that killed the game for me, just like the 4 story thing from Heroes.
Jacktheinfinite101 1 year ago
@Jacktheinfinite101 No need to be that serious dude, it´s all a matter of opinion. For example, for me, Black Knight was far superior to Secret rings, which had beautiful graphics and a great concept, but ruined by horrendous controls and bad stage design (mostly during missions). Yes, sue me if you want, but BK´s control, being kinda shaky, was at least decent, while runnig automatically was a pain in the ass specially once sonic gets uber fast. It´s a matter of tastes.
Easmodx 1 year ago
Um sorry if I my comment seemed hostile, I was just speaking in opinion too. Anyway it is all opinion and we are each entitled into our own, but I do think that our difference in opinion for those two games is actually pretty funny, why, because because for both of us, it's the controls. I'm not a big fan of on-rails, but at least they did a good job at that, when I play BK, the controls seem too sensitive and unresponsive at the same time (that doesn't seem physically possible XD).
Jacktheinfinite101 1 year ago
@Jacktheinfinite101
Nah, no big deal. As you say, it´s a matter of tastes. I know what you mean with BK, in that it responds at the worst moment.
I prefer nunchuk and a more traditional control scheme but the thing that I dislike the most about SR is the rpg style level system: the fact that you can´t gold rank a stage in your first go even if you do it perfectly because you have to level up, bugs me. I mean, Since the old days, a perfect run means S rank, be it on your first go or not.
Easmodx 1 year ago
That is true about the RPG system, Sonic Unleashed did a great job at setting the standards for upgrades in a Sonic game, I was irritated about having to start off so slow (in both story book games), there is a clear difference in Unleashed between level 1 speed and MAX speed, but Sonic is still VERY fast no matter what level in that game. In fact the main reason BK was saved of that flaw was because getting the best rank was really determined on how many enemies you beat.
Jacktheinfinite101 1 year ago
Silver ftw! And yes 06 was a good game, but those damn loading screens after every single talk or level were still fucking annoying XD
Saurian3 2 years ago
Sonic 06 was fun(Played the demo only though) but the reason WHY people hate it is not just the Glitches(Which most are just fun ones), its because of the Speed of Sonic. Though I can agree with liking it more than Shadow but not Heroes. Though they should of NOT made Elise because she's just the worst character in Sonic History IMO. They also should of made the game LOOK more cartoony. Sonic is just to tall & the gloves are HUGE!
lucariotrainer13 2 years ago
Most of the last things you said I disagree on. I agree with the first things you said, but, I didn't hate Elise, I thought of her as an anti-Amy charm (I hate SonAmy).
Jacktheinfinite101 2 years ago
the reason most people i know hate elise is because it an animal and human and if you dont get what im trying to say anima + human = beastiality!!!!!!!!! and the whole princess thing is ripping off mario in my opinon
asdfr007 2 years ago
Oh please, that's just an excuse that they say. Beastiality is when two animals of different species mate. So basically, almost every Sonic couple could be considered beastiality. Also, it's SEGA's universe, they can decide what's normal in it an abnormal, also, if a two-tailed fox can fall in love with a rose (Sonic X), which is inter-kingdom romance (much weirder than inter-species), then a human should be able to fall in love with a hedgehog.
Jacktheinfinite101 2 years ago
first i have some problems with sonic x and read your own comment "a human should be able to fall in love with a hedgehog." doesnt that sound a bit weird to you? just an opinon
asdfr007 2 years ago
Yes but doesn't a blue hedgehog that can talk, run at the speed of sound, has human features sound weird to you. The whole Sonic series is supposed to be strange. Just an opinion,
Jacktheinfinite101 2 years ago
Sonic Rush has one of the best endings to a Sonic game ever, but the worst final boss.
kuramafoxyboy 2 years ago