Jenny McCarthy on Larry King & Autism & Vaccines 4/2/2008 (part 6)

[DavidS1231]

To all of those who have been kind in their responses to this video, thank you! And you may want to look at FINDING THE WORDS - Children Recovering from Autism. It is a great film and should be seen by everyone! Also, USA Today has had articles regarding autism. One of the articles is very interesting. According to USA Today, there has been research which has found a high incidence of autism in families that also have a history of autoimmune disorders.

[BlessGod2009]

I Love Jenny McCarthy! She has alot of heart and goodness in her.You are a winner in my book!!!

[cyell2007]

How many commercials from dirt ball lawyers do you see, if you took this drug and have this call me?? Why was autism so rare before we started giving babies 100 vaccinations by their 1st b-day?? I am 33, i never knew anyone with autism..... just more of my luck i guess, but i see a whole lot of kids with it now, and I grew up in Los Angeles, now i live in rural new mexico, i see alot of autism and no where near the population i was around 11 years ago when i moved...

[cyell2007]

There are alot of smart people who are experts on both sides of the argument, you havent heard them possibly but i have heard some.... I agree Jenny McCarthy isnt an expert but I bet you she has done alot more research than you have, seeing what her kids are going through.... yes she is passionate so am i, my daughters reaction is what made my wife and i start researching vaccinations... And our pediatrician totally respected our decision, and works with us...

[cyell2007]

like i said, we arent against measles and polio and some of the other major ones, but we have taken our time, and waited for our kids to be older and stronger and only giving one here and one there.... If you dont look into things for yourself, you are just another number to them...... one cure fits all.......

[sinmantyx]

@cyell2007 I respect your choice, even though I probably would have made different choices. If I were you, I would be looking into allergens within the vaccines, etc. That makes sense. However, Jenny is a great example of someone who "knows just enough to be dangerous". That's the phrase that many scientists use to describe someone who knows enough to THINK they understand, but in actually does not. They are dangerous, because they rope other people into their misunderstandings.

[sinmantyx]

@cyell2007 ALOT? Name one person who actually does research (not just some idiot with a PhD) and is well published, who thinks that vaccines are a contributing factor in the rise of ASD. I bet Jenny has done more research than I have - which gives her less of an excuse for being so irresponsible and saying things that are incredibly stupid (ex. mercury).  She is NOT a good representative for those with legitimate concerns or actual injury.

[sinmantyx]

@cyell2007 I just told you - because the diagnostic criteria has been changed in the DSM IV. We see more autism now because we are SEEING it. However, there does appear to be some real increase, which nobody knows exactly why it is happening, but we know much more about autism than most people think we do. After Wakefield published his study, more research was done looking into his claims. We then found out it was a waste of time and he was being bought off by a law firm. Joy.

[cyell2007]

As far as the guy defending the vaccinations, is it possible that they are over vaccinating because all the numerous older less expensive vaccines help cover the cost of the newer ones, by charging more for the less expensive ones to even it out??? Just a thought....

[cyell2007]

1 and a half years old. and only ones for crucial diseases. She is the healthiest of all my children.... I truly believe if we continued with my second daughter, she would have been one of the 1 in 150 who are autistic... I could be wrong, but i beleived they were giving children way to much, way to fast for along time, before i ever hear jenny..

[cyell2007]

I do not give my children vaccines, my son (born in 1999) had all his, my second child my daughter (born 2006) had her 1st set, after her 2nd set, she broke out in a strange rash all over, taking her back to the ped. they said she had an alergic reation to the rubbing alcohol.. are you kidding me? she had never before or since, she hasnt had a vaccination since. but she does have all kinds of wierd food allergies. my youngest (2008) she was given no vaccines untill she was

[xenabeesley]

OMG!!!! I can't believe the comments I am reading here!!!!!

SERIOUSLY!

Jenny McCarthy is a mother fighting for her child... and thank god she is helping to fight for our children s lives!

I applaud Jenny!!

Come on she is not saying NO to vaccines.... she is saying WHY SOO MANY!

Of course we need to protect out children.....

this amount of Vaccines = Money!... Greed simple greed!

[sinmantyx]

@xenabeesley She is looking at the issues from a highly emotional and naive view-point and running with it. She doesn't even seem to realize that the majority of the "incredible increase" in autism is due to a change in diagnosis criteria. Mercury-salt preservative has not been used in vaccines since 2001 or so (even though there is no reason to believe it was ever harmful), yet she still is talking about it in 2008. She would do better by simply raising money for REAL autism research.

[MsSourGrapes]

McCarthy needs to stop interrupting! None of those kids DIED, but measles CAN kill! It's as simple as that! It scares me, how many parents would take... tombstones over autism.

[sinmantyx]

@MsSourGrapes Dying isn't the only bad thing that can happen to someone. Some of these diseases can cause lasting harm including neurological problems.

[sinmantyx]

@cyell2007 You are extremely misinformed. My mother worked in hospitals when some of these diseases were prevalent and you have no clue. Tetanus is will good old fashioned kill you - and it won't be nice to you before it does. Being a MOTHER doesn't make you an expert. Your child had an allergic reaction to something after being vaccinated and you jump to the conclusion that vaccines cause autism?! Sorry - that sort of stupid logic is dangerous.

[cyell2007]

@sinmantyx Well you know I have repect for you , but you are a bit judgemental self rightous, That wasnt jumping to a conclusion... I did research the matter, and their are several nurses just like your Mom whom said when pushing the envelope about Tetanus, no one knew anything, it was just keeping the company line, no tetanus shot= extremely bad, i am not an expert but it seems you are..

[sinmantyx]

@cyell2007 I am - but I'm sorry, at some point being "nice" is not being nice. I think the people on this video should have been much harsher with her and attacked her position more solidly. However, the FDA, researchers, etc. aren't really in the business of being persuasive to the public. I do not think I'm an expert. I think that experts are experts and you are not one, and neither am I. If those nurses didn't "know anything" that means they didn't "know anything".

[sinmantyx]

I doubt they were just like my mom. My mom was just a candy-striper, but she worked as one a very long time ago (she is in her 70's). So, she got to care for children that had some of these diseases. Recently, I talked to a nurse in the hospital where my son was, and discussed the recurrence of preventable disease (such as whooping cough). She looked upset and said she had helped treat a child with Tetanus, and said it was the worst thing she'd ever seen and she worked in the PICU.

[cyell2007]

I have never had a t-shot and have been cut by all kinds of metals many times through out my life... guess i am good old fashioned lucky.... anyways tetanus is not the issue here, you can drink the koolaid all you want , eat all the margirine, splenda, nutrasweet , cornsyrup, modified everything, genetically altered everything, processed microwave crap, and take all the wonder drugs that come out for every little thing, acid reflux, low blood pressure, allergy, ED, etc etc

[cyell2007]

And then let me know how that works for you too......... Heck wait 5 years then you can sue when they figure out it gives you a heart attack or a stroke or wang falls off or whatever..lol... I'll just be an uniformed, ignorant, superstitious, neandrathal, and live a happy life with my family, loving and serving God and the less fortunate. You are the type that would probably call me in for child abuse. LOL right?? Excuse my sarcasm, we cant change the whole world, just the world around us!

[sinmantyx]

@cyell2007 YES Tetanus IS the issue here - and yes, you have been lucky and I hope you and your family continue to be lucky! This is about reasoned risk-benefit analysis being hijacked by people spewing emotionally-charged hyper-simplified and too-often blatantly false crap - and being given more credibility than they deserve by being given high-quality air-time because ratings matter to advertisers more than responsible broadcasting.

[sinmantyx]

You seem to be boiling this argument down to a simple statement of "unnatural is bad". That is not helpful. Some very natural things are very bad for you and some unnatural things will save your life. What we now call "ASD" has been documented for well over 100 years. The primary reason for the incredible increase in ASD cases was a change in diagnostic criteria in DSM IV. Anyone who ignores that and is pushing an alarmist agenda - is either misinformed or evil.

[sinmantyx]

@cyell2007 Btw - it is NOT true that nobody is arguing about polio vac or measles. ...to answer your question, I do NOT think that people who do not vaccinate their children (in whole or in part) are child abusers. I don't agree with their decision most of the time, but it is their decision to make. Now, Wakefield - as far as I'm concerned he should be rotting in jail somewhere.

[cyell2007]

@sinmantyx , so you do believe all the wonder drugs and aforementioned foods are ok? I dont trust the FDA as far as I can throw them..... I understand what you are saying, not all unatural things are bad, but this science society has gone way to far, if you'd rather take a wonder drug to treat something rather than change you diet and exercise to treat it naturally , you are gonna have to face the consequenses, you will be taking more drugs to treat the side effects and more to treat those etc.

[sinmantyx]

@cyell2007 Problem is - tetanus can't be cured with diet and exercise, so what's your point? You're making the same mistake you were making before - putting TOO many things in the same category.

[brokenspar]

This bimbo McCarthy is no less than a mindless idiot out to promote her book's to make a profit...period.

[sinmantyx]

Gosh - I hadn't really heard her talk about this before now. WOW - why the hell does anyone listen to her? It also doesn't help that she was the only woman on the panel and she's acting "hysterical".

Jenny - please be quiet and quit giving blonds a bad name! "It's bull shit" is not an argument.

[Peartfection]

@sinmantyx I agree that no man could sit there and do what Jenny did without being pummelled back, and that's a real statement about women can (and do) get away with.But in defence of her in THIS case the whole thing is so rigged and top heavy that we actually need someone like her and I truly believe that she is aware. "Hysterical" can only be judged once understanding her perspective/position. Like others, it's a word prob. derived from psychiatry. YouTube "Psychiatry an industry of death".

[sinmantyx]

@Peartfection If she is aware, she's has stepped from the "stupid" camp into the "evil" camp. I don't think "we" need someone like her. It would be more reasonable to give air-time to people who actually understand a topic well (perhaps do research in the field), instead of someone whose qualifications are posing nude and acting. To be very frank - there are plenty of ugly women that know 100 times more about the topic than she does - but who wants to watch that?

[Peartfection]

@sinmantyx (I just got your message now). Why "evil"? I don't think it has a thing to do with her looks, or posing nude, or even acting. But she IS taking advantage of her star power and using her acting ability, (whatever star power she has, probably due to J. Carrey now more than anything) to get what she knows out there. As far as what she knows, I'm with her 100% on her experience with her own boy, and whatever she's learned since. You talk like you have a false notion of research/science

[sinmantyx]

@Peartfection I'm saying that the ONLY reason she gets air time is because of her looks and her acting career. If she ALSO knew what she was talking about, that would be great. (I have more respect for Nina Hartley and she a former porn actress.) Many parents of autistic children do not appreciate her "advocacy" either - at least the ones that I know personally. When she is STILL talking about "mercury" - her irresponsible rhetoric boarders on criminal negligence.

[Peartfection]

@sinmantyx Forget her LOOKS, it's got little or nothing to do with it! (And I'd bone up to Nina Hartley so fast I wouldn't even notice Jenny.) It has to do with the fact that she's a star, and that's she's a MOM (maybe STAR is what you meant by actress -- you can't just be an actress, you have to be a star). They don't want the science to drown out a mom, on Larry's show! I know nothing of the rest of what you say, but I know a parent of an Aspergers boy who loves Jenny. What I DO know is ...

[sinmantyx]

@Peartfection Being a mother doesn't make you an expert. My son had a severe TBI after a car accident. I suppose that makes me a neurologist - perhaps I am now magically capable of engineering cars now too. That's what makes me mad. She is so loud she is drowning out the people who actually know something and have reasonable information. She could have used her star power to HELP instead of misinform and sell books.

[adcas43]

Jenny McCarthy is one of those really good arguments against democracy.

[superdoop1]

"look they're vaccinating more, see?!? proof that vaccines cause autism!" Jenny's rich, go pay for the research to prove that horseshit, stop wasting federal research money to defend a proven program from social vandalism.

[beulahboi]

The drug companies are doing the dirty work for those in power. If there was NOT a problem with vaccines there would be NO "National vaccine injury compensation program" The fact that there can be such a program YET people are still buying into "safe vaccines" shows how well we've been programmed to trust our goverment to protect us... They are not protecting us or our children. WAKE UP.

[donvb]

Jenny is an idiot... She doesn't know anything about medicine, and the problem is her emotions are running her arguments... "I'd take measles and mumps anyday.." Her kid would die of encephalitis... She has no clue...

[hendrixmom]

I had mumps, rubella, chicken pox, etc and i did not die, I actually remember the diseases and they were bad but not so bad, some of my school friends had measles and they are ok too.

[sinmantyx]

Three people you know personally is not a very large sample space. Some people get through those diseases well and some people don't.

For example, many people have gotten N1H1 with little or no problem. One of my young relatives was hospitalized twice and had to be put on a respirator because of it. Over 3,000 people have died, some of which were quite healthy.

Happy that your friends survived measles, but hundreds of thousands of people around the world die of the measles every year.

[DavidSaddler1231]

Anyone who doubts there is connection between vaccines and autism should look up the Poling case.

[narutojun]

Jenny is on top of it. It has nothing to do with her yelling the loudest. She is angry that these "doctors" are sitting here straight faced. There is a problem, and they won't budge to even acknowledge that vaccines should be looked at as a suspect. Oh, but the earth is flat. How many people died saying it was round back in the old days.

[Ishta5]

@narutojun scientist said it was round

[happynurse63]

Jenny, just because you can yell the loudest, doesn't make you right!

Girl, get OVER yourself!

[spricket24]

Do you not see how every time Jenny tries to talk- those other two docs are interrupting her and talking over her BEFORE she even gets loud with them?

[novella101]

They're trying to stop her spouting out more nonsense. And she's basically repeating the same thing over despite not backing it up with VALID evidence...just rhetorical questions

[happynurse63]

Thank You! :)

[happynurse63]

Jenny has NO IDEA what she is TALKING about, she can't back her sh!t up with any VALID evidence!

[gareburraka]

jenny might be a bimbo

but dayum, she knows her shit.