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  • If the Army doesn't want to pay let the soldiers pay themselves; just give them the option ASAP.

  • I can tell you from experience, the armor we use today (kevlar-ceramic plate) works well IF your hit in the small area where either plate is.. Although I would love to have this new material or Dragonskin* Armor.

  • so they added a little cornstarch to their armor and BAM, profit

  • too bad the army is too cheap to actually give a damn about its soldiers

  • @dammitcrap well we have no money left we're trillions in dept the way to keep our troops safe is not to go to war for no reason

  • @TheAlexagius unfortunately even before we got all broke the govt was still about pinching its pennies so our boys still got issued the best crap from the lowest bidder. mil-spec is the biggest advertising scam in the world because it basically means "a little bit tougher than what youre expecting so its worth the extra 500$."

  • @dammitcrap ur right

  • well where the hell is it???????? HMMMMMM ?????

  • soon our soldiers will be covered in so much armour they cant move.

  • when i first saw that scientist i thought of the guy from willy wonka (the original version) who had the machine that was supposed to correctly guess the location of a golden ticket. haha

  • wow that guy looks like bill murray when he was young

  • go to :54 and pause it really fast. its a PELLET not a bullet.

  • At 0:56 you can see that its from a air rifle hell a 1/8 inch thick steel plate can do the same thing not impressive btw you stole the idea from a kid how sad

  • @barmat30 i think the point is to wear it as clothing under your actual armor that is super light with added protection

  • Lol, its like custard when you walk on it

  • it may stop the bullet but will hurt like hell.

  • 0_o hmmm i sttill say u walk away with like a broken rib? maybe if they make uniforms out of this but the plates spread the impact as the cloth will not because of the give

  • you will never be truely safe from any bullet no mater what the wrap around you or dip you in, you got this shit in the vid on ur head sure ur brains aint on the grown but you got a fractured skull and if u aint dead a retard at best, and u can always shoot a mufucka in the eye

  • I think dragon skin is best but I think their afraid if enemy forces find out about this armor from dead soilder and reproduce it for themselfs.

    I heard CIA and FBI were rumored to use dragon skin on some missions.

  • I need it.

  • Interceptor is fine. yes the Military should be using Dragon Skin but not this shit

  • Doesn't protect you from biological warfare nor electric charges.

    If bullets are made obsolete, then different types of weapons will be developed. There are more ways to kill a human than using bullets and knives.

  • neither does ceramic

  • You will still get broken bones....but you live

  • you will never be 100% (safe) in this day and age lol.

  • was it just me or did that bullet look like an airgun pellet...

    Kinetic energy can kill

  • This would be awesome to use in the military, (doubt it though cause of govt contracts etc etc, gotta make dat money). The only draw back i could see of wearing an entire suit of it, is that it wont breath at all, they'd have to find an effective ventilation system or they casualties you no longer receive from bullets will be made up for with heat stroke etc etc. Other than that this stuff is awesome, Maybe the Marines will use it, they care for their personnel.

    future 0331 OORAH SEMPER FI

  • @Spawn40k Marine Corps??? Bullshit, how deluded you are XD ROTF.

  • You guys have no sense of sarcasm do you?

  • when new armor is developed, just like the middle ages...the new weaponry will be developed as well. It's a constant arms race

  • i wonder what this would do for the kinetic energy passed from the bullet to the person i don't imagine very much

  • Regular kevlar wn't stop an attack from a "shank" type weapon or even an arrow because it "windows", meaning the fibers separate and go around the object. Once coated with this two-part mixture, the windowing effect doesn't happen. The molecules react by crowding together at the point of impact and then separating out when pressure is stopped. For a second it becomes as hard as steel. Vests coated in this way are ideal for prision guards especially.

  • @ArkonDrakk that is why kevlar used in body armour are layed in interlocking pattens and are tightly weaved.

  • Army wont use it they , the govt values its money over our soldiers lives

  • ROFL!!!!

    Thanx needed that... body armor that stops wars, what will they invent next :-D

  • The title of the original scientific article published on this is "Advanced Body Armor Utilizing Shear Thickening Fluids". You can download the pdf of it by searching that, and it's pretty neat.

  • It won't stop any wars just change the way they are fought.

  • wow, i'd like to see one of these in action

  • is this IGNINTE D3o

  • There's no such thing as "impenetrable" armor; there never will be. This is simply (not to belittle it) an improvement.

    When this armor is fielded, guns will be made that shoot bullets faster, or there'll be mini explosively formed penetrator-tipped missiles, or what have you.

  • Since the concept comes from non-newtonian fluid characteristics, a faster bullet would be less viable. It hardens on sudden impact. but could be slowly pierced.

  • Osprey plates are very impenetrable. I've seen one withstand an RPG round. Albeit the person wearing the armour had broken ribs obviously, but it still withstood it. (And obviously the rpg shell was a dud.)

  • id take a shower in that shit lol!

  • Ok, in regards to dragon skin,it is god awfully too heavy, and it literally falls apart at higher temperatures. But agreed,a perfected or at least improved dragon skin for the torso, and this stuff for everything else would be near perfect as a armor system

  • .... the problem is, that when you get hit, this armor will become solid... and if it is over an articulation you wont be able to move.... so far i understood....

  • some what true but what if you get hit with say an mp5 or ak47 which is what most iraqi forces use, if you get hit multiple times it would go through.

  • well, 1 bullets in you is better than 2 :D

  • After the impact, it should return to its original state.

  • Combine, cover, or have it underneath dragon skin to absorb the hydrostatic shock. We're getting closer and closer to Halo armor.

  • i would combine it with dragon skin

  • ftw my thoughts as well

  • holy shit its the guy from iron man

  • @GGBULLETz You mean Iron Man?

  • GREAT TECH, but the problem is that for all the good it does stopping bullet penetration, it doesn't do a thing for hydrostatic shock - that is, the kinetic impact of the bullet itself. Your body still has to absorb that, and that can cause just as grievous an injury as getting shot without the armor.

  • That's a nice addition. Now if they can merge that with stabilized dragon skin ceramics, they could have a winner. I don't think stiffening glass is going to stop an AK or sniper round. Looks just fine on the 9mm in the video though. If these folks all worked together, it would save alot of pain and money at the VA hospitals.

  • army banned dragon skin before they tested it, anyone notice the guy who banned dragon skin is now associated with the company that produces the armor the military uses now instead of dragonskin? funny huh? not that i know its any better or worse, never used either, just an observation...

  • yeah, how can they do that when the is a armor that REALLY can take bullets?

    is it just becauset at that titanium i expensive? huh, better that than spending money on a vest that cant protect you.

  • exactaly. they're spending so much money on extremely heavy plated vests, when that money could have gone towards dragon skin.

    another point, after they tested it, they had said it failed miserably. Bull.

  • True enough, I doubt everything they said about the armor was true,but it is fact it weighs alot, and the claim that the "scales" fell off or separated at hotter temps does seem to be legit. I just think it needs more time to be perfected

  • @pyromaster55

    Dragon skin is great armor but nowhere the best, try carbon fiber nanotube armor 2 mm can stop a handgun bullet.

  • @pyromaster55 actually it turns out ballistic plates can handle more kinetic energy than dragonskin, however they become useless after several hits from a high powered assault rifle, its the opposite for dragon skin low affinity for energy transfer but can take a hell of a lot of punishment. They're had been reports that soldiers using dragon skin had been seriously injured, which makes me wonder why don't we put dragon skin over some a level 2 vest?

  • @Amatugold "over a level 2 vest"

  • @Amatugold Do you know anything about rifles or cartridges? "high powered assult rifle", an assult rifle fires intermidiate rifle cartridges, and rifles that fire full powered cartridges are battle rifles. High powered cartridges like magnum's are usually fired from bolt action rifles. There is no such thing as an "high powered assult rifle" only misleading news reporters call it that.

  • @1ohtaf1 Oh sorry I am aware of that. I do know about rifles and cartridges. But, your argument is really irrelevent to the point I was making. Thanks for the correction I guess?

  • @Amatugold So me making the point that a bullet can pass through the body armour on a subject about a body armour systems effectiveness is irrelevent? Hmm i didnt know that. Thanks!

  • @1ohtaf1 I was talking about your correction on my terminology... not the subject.

    Do you know anything about rifles or cartridges? "high powered assult rifle", an assult rifle fires intermidiate rifle cartridges, and rifles that fire full powered cartridges are battle rifles. High powered cartridges like magnum's are usually fired from bolt action rifles. There is no such thing as an "high powered assult rifle" only misleading news reporters call it that.

    I was referring to this.

  • @Amatugold There is no untimate protection, you wear more you get weighed down more and more likely to get hit and makes it harder for you to hit the enemy, its a trade of. As i said people didnt even like that the IOTV gave them allot of protection but allot of weight.

  • @1ohtaf1 not true iron man might be possible in the future

  • @alexmedvec What do you mean "not true", while it might be possible for such technology, each system has its drawbacks. As modern armour is the same weight as it was in medevil times, weapons improved and the protection it gives from it is the same. With modern technology you can easily make more capable armour but it would weigh more and fatigue the soldier, reducing his mobility and capability.

  • @1ohtaf1 you dont have to worry about weight and fatigue if the armor moves for you or enhances your motion.this will be possible in the future. so even if you have a 10 ton armor on, it wont fatigue you. the machine is doing most of the work.

    in my last post i made a comparison to iron man

  • @alexmedvec lol that would be true if it exists, but its quite far from reality at the moment, and even then, a machine with less armour will be faster than a machine with more armour.

  • @alexmedvec a 10 ton machine is still no good if its broke ;)

    

  • @pyromaster55 what is the guys name who banned dragon skin and how is he associated with what company???

  • @thormodfamily I forget, but he worked for the DD when they tested interceptor vs dragon skin, now IIRC he is no longer working for the government but working for the company that makes interceptor, again, I've no experience with either personally, and dragon skin may suck under certain combat situations making Interceptor a better overall system, I'm just making observations.

  • @pyromaster55 almost 9 different companies makes the IOTV....

  • @pyromaster55 Where can I buy dragon skin...hell If I can get a 1UP on military gear I am all for it.

  • obviously nobody as looked at the trials the army did on dragon skin because then they would know that D skin SUCKS!!! it will stop bullets but after minimal use its "scales" shift so unprotected holes are left in the armor

  • when bullets fly off armer its generally more or less dang eris i thought that was called sh rap metal

  • I don't know. it sounds expensive to produce. what they might end up doing is making the armor part liquid armor like in the chest and leg area as well as back. then, make the rest out of kevlar/dragonskin

  • I guess dragon skin isnt the bright future anymore. Hell US army didnt want to use it anyway. This stuff looks great, but i bet it cant protect my testies from the force of a bullet :)

  • yeah you might be up the creek with that one man

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  • I hear the dragon skin is bulky. But that stuff can definitely take a hit.

  • DS doesnt cover the whole body. thats the point of the video

  • actual their is many different mold kits for a soldier you can get all body or just parts and the good thing about dragon skin is its cheap wheal not realy

  • @sabby123456789 The us army should just really supply the normal marines with dragon skin who cares of the cost all u need to do is to just make sure that somebodies son makes it home alive

  • @getsuga987 That does not make any sense, why the hell would the army supply marines with body armour, it is the marine corps that will make that decision, furthermore the glue that holds all that disks together wears out quickly and also dislodges in heat and becomes brittle in cold conditions.

  • @1ohtaf1 Are you really dumb enough to believe that? I mean if that was really the case you don't think that with all the different types of adhesives out there they couldn't just use another one or just sew the disks into little pouches or something? That's just bullshit, and no one has seen that happen or gotten that result in any open testing, only behind closed doors and we have to take their word for it. Dragon skin is superior is every way to IOTV except for cost.

  • @ArchNME umm no, unlike plate armour dragon skin actually does not spread the impact as much as regular rifle plates. And sewing them in little pouches is stupid the bullet will just slip and push them aside as it passes through. In no way is this armour any more resiliant to bullets, it is just more flexible, but it also weighs allot more. Allot of troops are ditching the IOTV for lighter less protective plate carriers, moving to a heavier system is dumb.

  • @ArchNME you're partly correct, the glue was not the sole issue, Pinnacle bought inferior raw materials from an Israeli ceramic manufacturer. The disks in DS were measured by a few different labs interested in characterizing the armor and they found the SiC was much less dense than that produced by companies like Ceradyne or Saint-Gobain for ESAPI.

  • @ArchNME They also cheated on their weight measurements, on their site they gave the weight based on covering the area of the armor in a single layer of ceramic, but in reality the disks overlap making the thickness in a given area around twice what they did calculations for. That's why you have people quoting the website as saying the armor is ~20 lbs and people who claim to have worn the armor saying its more like 50lbs.

  • Thats why were #1

  • Very cool, I want some :D

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