The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine (Anymore) - Frankie Valli

[gulmorb]

I want to see live version!

[Tundigirl]

Wow - just WHO is the drummer on this song? Really pounding it out with all his heart and driving this song - so gorgeous! Thanks!

[ruandted]

go the drummer .

[mattopeters]

one of the greatest songs ever!!!

[camianrey]

the best version

[kinoko510]

love this song, prefer the walker bro's version. because of the arrangement of the song (the echo effect just gets me)

[Alan96box]

I'm a true fanatic of Frankie Valli & the Four Seasons, and I prefer this that any version ... I love this song, this band & this "sophisticated" musician.

[JoggingOnTheMoon]

I do like frankie singing this better tho I think the walker brothers kinda gave the song the kick it needed melody & arrangement-wise

[Mineretta2012]

My Dad use to play this to my Mom after they had a fight.

[gibsosgerbil]

Do You Think Frankie Valli's version released In 1964?

[eauhomme]

We just lost John Walker, and his rendition of this song made it a favorite for me. I had never heard Frankie Valli's original and couldn't imagine it since most of Valli's work was in falsetto. When I heard Valli carry the full tune in his lower register, I was impressed.

[Tonithenightowl]

Love both versions. Frankie and the Walker bros. Just different reditions.

[vva4844]

Enjoy the Four Seasons / Frankie Valli,yet the Walker Brothers Version is the best in my humble opinion.

[PURSUITTOO]

oops. i guess 6 people slipped and hit the dislike button in awe

[Jander4031]

One thing I noticed over the years, back in 60's most of the groups (like 4 seasons, Walker Bros, Temptations, etc) all had talented voices in addition to beautiful music. Then the words were also more meaningful- most of them. Thank you bluesouldsound for posting this!!

[SEVAGARM]

I love Cher's version

[EuroTom1]

My favorite version is Cher's from "It's a Man's World" album

[TOBERT001]

Wow these dudes sure had some talent. The stuff they gave away that became hits....this song, "Silence Is Golden", "Bye Bye Baby" .... let alone all their own big hits.

Respect.

[stationranger]

An absolutely fantastic song and Frankie Valli does a fine job but The Walker Brothers blow everyone else all of the water. I'm not even a Scott Walker fan but that voice on his version of this song gives me the chills.

[rasputin63]

This is a very good record and has much to commend it... The bridge especially has some beautiful things going on in it...

[castor2356]

this Version and The walker Brothers Greats ¡¡¡¡¡

[svo65]

wow, i'm not sure if i have ever heard this version, it's good!!! thanks for puttin it on.

[KoalaCookies]

i actually like this version more than the others. it's more emotional. :)

[corvus13]

Jay and the Americans had a great version.

[harvey1954]

Bob Crewe knew that his own version did not have what it took to be a hit. He took it over to England and gave it to the Walker Brother's producer. The first version sounded just like Valli's so John Walker insisted they rerecord it because he knew it had hit potential.

[Treaty4]

Valli was a really good singer. He certainly put a different spin on this song. First time I am hearing it. For the people saying not to compare it with other renditions-sorry, that is what most people do when they have heard other versions of the same song. I think he did the song proud.

[jazzalex22]

Frankie Valli and the 4 Seasons is overall my favorite band. They had such good songs. This song right here was written by Bob Gaudio and Bob Crewe the writers of all their other hits. What basically Bob Gaudio said in a Biography special he was not sure if this song was going to do well because it was a time when he just wrote the songs like he did here. I know the Walker Brothers made it a smash but however both versions of the song are great.

[ahstc1973]

Everything is timing .... but the fact that this was not a hit does not take away from it being a great rendition ... Frankie does a great job here and the song itself is an absolute classic ... This song belongs in the Great American Pop Song book !

[scronx]

I'm sorry it went up 3 times -- didn't mean to.

[scronx]

It's a shame when some folks can't listen to something assoc'ed with something or someone else w/o comparing it. This is where Frankie poured out his soul as nowhere else---in a normal male range, too. There are 100 other renditions out there... uh oh, "Valli was the original artist to record the Gaudio-Crewe composition "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine (Anymore)", a performance that was copied nearly note for note when recorded by The Walker Brothers, an American group based in England." --Wikipedia!

[scronx]

It's a shame when people can't listen to something strongly associated with something or someone else without comparing it. This is where Frankie poured out his soul as nowhere else I can think of. Sang in a normal male range, too. There are 100 other renditions of it out there -- how far do you want to go?

[sibjoan]

thanks for the treat!

[nofuture20091]

no one like SCOTT WALKER to sing this song.....well KEANE is amazing alwayss

[2georgeorwell]

emptiness is the place you're in...with nothing to lose and no more to win...thank you erato

[hirskdubbi]

respect to these guys,the writers,but the walker bros.version is the best

[TCall2004]

Ooh, I like this!

[zipper179]

This song's made for incurable romantics like me..You need to be thanked daily..

[steven1660]

This is a great song, I also love Cher's version!

[Lillian2167]

personally I think this version is way better the Walker Bros. version. you can't beat Frankie Valli's Vocals!

[giacblanc]

Probably wasn't a hit because he's not singing falsetto which is his trademark.

[neatodd]

Arrrgh! Make it stop!

[mreunome]

Love the Four Seasons and this is ok, but gotta give The Walker Bros props for their version cause it was so sooooooooulful! I always thought it was as good as any Righteous Brothers hit . Valli's cover of "I've Got You Under My Skin", I think is better than Sinatra's. And no one can do "I Can't Take My Eye Off Of You," as good as Frankie Vallie.

[B52sguy]

Not as good as the Walker Bros, and especially Jay and the Americans.

But good, nevertheless.

Too high pitched!

Joseph F

[ethifanman]

The kinks Village Green Preservation Society album from l968 right up there with Pet Sounds....Love this song by the 4 seasons......you can feel the pain and loneiness

[FingerboardCorners]

Responding to an earlier comment, did the Beach Boys actually record and release a version of "Walk Like A Man"? Or was it just alluded to on "Surfers Rule"? Or was it done at a concert with Adrian Baker singing lead? Adrian Baker toured and sang with both The Four Seasons and The Beach Boys at various times.

Often, original versions of songs are not the hit version. They are often covered by other artists if a single wasn't released or wasn't a hit.

[MaxLibertas]

Amazing song. Pop music just doesn't get any better than this. Bob Gaudio said of all of his songs this is his favorite. He also said he wanted to be a drummer and that's why the drums always played such an integral part in so many Four Seasons songs. The Bob Gaudio - Bob Crewe arrangements were always outstanding. I could listen to this all day. I may just do that...

[garydemaio]

This is such a great song, it doesn't seem to matter who sings it. I've also heard Keane's version. The Walker Bros I would say is probably the best version of this song. But I find I like the slower tempo of the 4 season's version also. It's a strong, beautiful & enduring classic. I don't know anyone who doesn't like this song. How can you not like it?

[nickrambus]

F V is one of my favorite groups, But the Walker Brothers version with the faster tempo sounds better.

[SamWhitemoon1]

@nickrambus ur right mate it is better and more somber.

[4battis]

fav group of all time

[Dubiousjohnny]

This is the largo original. Walker Brothers is more of a sixties quick tempo beat version. Both very good. Valli's has a genuine ring to it.

[patrickb5197]

These guys are great

[VernianProcess]

I prefer the Walkers cover, theirs just takes this song to epic heights. But I do like the original as well.

[spacepatrolman]

What do you like better walk like a man by the 4 seasons or the beach boys or jan and dean?

[VernianProcess]

Walk like a man is a great song, and Jan and Dean are ok. But The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds, and Brian Wilson's - Smile, trump them all.

[nachodaddy]

Pleasant surprise. I like the tempo better than the Walkers & thank God there was none of that nasty, heinous falsetto in the vocals.

[gto66solstice08]

Covered this ...copied that ... After all these years, just enjoy the stories of new loves and loves lost....we are all too old to do more than that !

Thanks for the love and memeories..Jersey Boys!

[astronomius]

what a brilliant song. everything about it, simple lyrics, clever song structure, the repetitious and infectious chorus; all it needs is the right vocalist, and so far, Frankie is the best.

[theaznlvr]

this was actually the Walker Bros. song the 4 Seasons copied it

[schiedam25749]

You're wrong. The original is by Frankie Valli (Bob Crewe &Bob Gaudio of The 4 Seasons wrote the song). The Walker Brothers coppied it.

[brabon1]

covered....not copied

the guys were great at writing songs

the walkers bros arrangement is a bit better

[theaznlvr]

ty schi i didnt realize that

[GypsyWomanUK]

it was written by Bob Gaudio & Bob Crewe for the Four Seasons, and covered by The Walker Brothers

[spacepatrolman]

Bob crewe the 5 th season plays tambourine and hand clapping .

[GypsyWomanUK]

oops, sorry, didnt notice this had already been replied to

[checkfoldcallraise]

signature frankie voice, cant miss it. haha awesome. i like it. neil diamond did a version as well. he also has a signature to his voice.

[onetopcookie]

Absolutely stunning version - the original and the best!!!

[ThePaintermanful]

There is unusual version of this song by the group called Dorian Gray from Croatia (then Yugoslavia) - "Sjaj u tami" (1983)

[FingerboardCorners]

At 3:35, it ran a little long for Top 40 radio, though this sounds a little slowed down from what I remember. The promotion could have been more effective. In '62, word of mouth and DJ promotion was more effective. It went out with the post '64 hype.

Frankie Valli and the 4 Seasons covered a lot of stuff and made it their own, but this is an original. Another is the first charting track of "Can't Get Enough Of You Baby. Yes, before Smash Mouth, ? and The Mysterians, and even The Toys.

[alanfaehamilton]

I agree with ethifanman-the Walkers did a very good version of this one but Frankie Valii's is the better one!

[bgdisbrow]

This recording was from the album "Frankie Valli Solo" which came out in early 1966.

[johnseeley]

As a kid, I remember the Four Seasons had an Album that had this photo on the front. Does anyone remember the name of this album?

[johnkatz502]

It might from the Four Seasons Entertain You album...got rid of all my albums...but it is either that or a remake.

[johnseeley]

johnkatz502, This is what I rmember about the album. It must have come in the very lat 50s or early 60s. One of the songs on it was "Come Si Bella" It also featured the Ink Spots on that album and another band. Not the one you mentioned. Thanks

[Comrade4Life]

Not his best but Frankie did his thing on this. The orchestral arrangement on the Walker Bros. version might be more powerful, but Frankie was a better singer than the Bros.

[mashtones]

The Walker Brothers version was produced by Johnny Franz in a style that Phil Spector had made popular. Franz was know for his work with Dusty Springfield. He died in 1977 at 54.

[UncleMike43]

Strange how no one mentioned who produced the Walker Brothers. A guy named Spector. What's he doin' now ??Life !!

[rwboa22]

Although The Walker Bros. version is more upbeat, you need to remember that Frankie was trying to break out as a solo artist. In order to try to appeal to both the 1960's teen crowd and grown-ups, this version does sound like a cross between the Righteous Brothers and Frank Sinatra. If you ever come across the "Timeless" album, which was Frankie's second solo album, you will not hear the distinctive Four Seasons sound in it. Instead, you hear more big band/orchestra music in the background.

[spacepatrolman]

@rwboa22 the walker brothers started out like the righteous brothers with 2 guys doing r&b although they both had low voices like the ames brothers the righteous brothers had one low voice and one high voice then they picked up a third guy and went to england [frankie can sing low and high ]

[ethifanman]

The Walker Bro's did a great job on this as they had a hit with it....but good ole Frankie does a incredible job singing this great song....I love both versions, kinda like this one alittle bit better....sets the mood

[kickassfan]

this is a magic gem thnaks guys this is history

[ahstc1973]

Walker brothers did this best period !

But how good of a song writer is Bob Gaudio ? So under appreciated ...

[gjpaget]

Well, I suppose that everyone has the right to do their own version of a song, but with all due respect to my beloved Frankie, this song is best suited to Scott Walker when he was in his prime with The Walker Brothers. I am so sorry to hear how Scott has decided, let's put it this way, 'not to go back to his glory days'. However, John Walker is doing very well these days, touring over here in the UK and is sounding absolutely wonderful.

[tambourmn]

I've always loved Frankie's voice but he sounds like he's phoning it in on this one. Maybe the Righteous brothers should have had a crack at it.

[L8DSheena]

Frankie did the original, correct me if I'm wrong...the best version, imho.

[newjersi08]

Weak. Scott Walker and The Walker Brothers blow this version out of the water.

[newjersi08]

Stinks. Doesn't hold a candle to The Walker Bros. version.

[jiveghost]

i like valli but I find the walker brother's version of this to be chilling...scott walker, what a voice! i love him so.

[OmarDelfinity]

@jiveghost Walker Brothers does give off a chilling vibe but this version does too. But I do like the Walker Brothers chilling vibe of their version. This one's cool by itself.

[donnie4607]

I like this version better than any other

version that i've heard, but everyone has

an opinion.

[thebigfist]

The backround singing is too distant from Frankie`s lead.The Walker brothers'version is much more stirring.I`m surprised that they didn`t have a better arrangement for this one,especially since Bobby Gaudio wrote it!Whereas their version of "Sunday kind of Love" is my favorite of all the versions out there.

[moorlock2003]

Frankie Valli is obviously very irritated that The Walker Bros. had a huge hit with the song. Valli hosted a showing of the film "Beach Ball" on AMC about 10 years ago. The film contained numerous recording artists including The Four Seasons and the early version of The Walker Bros., before they went to England and became a sensation. Valli did not mention The Walker Bros. by name at all.

[cbak12sg]

@moorlock2003 In the UK, four songs originally recorded by Frankie Valli/ The Four Seasons were no 1s for other acts: The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore (Walker Brothers, 1966), Silence is Golden (The Tremeloes, 1967), Bye Bye Baby, (Bay City Rollers, 1975), Working My Way Back To You (Detroit Spinners, 1980, OK just the Spinners in the USA!)

[louiefortune]

@cbak12sg And they themselves The 4 Seasons had more hits in the 70's in Britain

than they did in North America,,,, The Night... and ...Silver Star to name a couple.

The Night was huge in England and also covered by a British band called Timebox.

They had more songs covered by other artists that became hits, more than any other group of the 60's i believe that to be a fact.

[cbak12sg]

@louiefortune Yes. The Night gave the band a new lease of life in the UK. It was very popular on the Northern Soul circuit, and was a top ten hit in 1975. Huge hits followed with Who Loves You, December 63 (their only UK no 1) and Silver Star. I think they also had a hit with the Beatles song We Can Work It Out.

[ryhoyarbie]

Excellent version by Frankie and the boys. Just as good as the Walker Brothers.

[diggiemac]

it's a lot better....

[booopdooop]

The Walker Bros. version is very good but without this version, it would never have been.

Hats off to Frankie! a classic in every sense of the word.

[moorlock2003]

I don't give a damn who did it first, this version is absolutely stinko. The Walker Brothers walk all over this.

[booopdooop]

I prefer this version to the Walker Bros. version, there's no substitute for originality and all the Walker Bros did was take the original and tweek it a little to appeal to a younger audience of that time, but hey I'm not calling it, as cover versions go it's still good.

[moorlock2003]

Who had the international hit? Right, The Walker Brothers, the only version of "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine (Anymore)" that matters.

[booopdooop]

Please, international hits don't mean shit, that just means many people bought it, just like they bought Osmonds LPs etc. There's absolutely no correlation between the number of records you sell and how great you are, any donkey can sell enough records providing it is marketed well.

[nor888vast695]

This piece is a bitch. They may have more feeling if they did it a capella. The singer and band are like they just met. Valle doesn't do a better job than the Walker Bros. I guess it's whoever you want to cut some slack.

[moorlock2003]

Scott Walker sings this song the way it is meant to be sung, with a strong barotone voice. Frankie Valli's pipsqueak vocals sound like a chipmunk.

[booopdooop]

Tell me Moorlock, do you find Scott Walker strangely homoerotic? does the deeper voiced male appeal to you more? are you more submissive around men with laryngeal prominence? it would very much seem so.

[moorlock2003]

Not at all, but I definitely don't like Valli's falsetto. It sounds girly to me.

[57highland]

booop, Your right about international status, and I might prefer Walker Bros version because I heard it long before this one, but I think this song is better at the slightly faster tempo the Walkers used. Also the soft horns at the intro and the ending are just right for this song. The 4 Seasons, however, were undoubtedly the better outfit, one of the best of the 60s and maybe the whole history of pop.

[booopdooop]

I happen to like the Walker Bros. version very much too, infact technically speaking it might well be better in some ways than Frankie's version, but come on Moorlock don't bash Frankie, without his blueprint for this song the Walker Bros. version of "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine" might have sounded a whole lot different.

[57highland]

Right. Frankie as a solo and Four Seasons as a group are both in the entertainment top echelon. A few years back, I heard the Seasons' version of "Aint That A Shame" for the first time. You wouldn't think a pop vocal group could do justice to such a master as Fats Domino, but the Seasons did "Shame" their way and it's great.

[rontenn]

B******s!

[rontenn]

In your opinion mate!! Frankie has class & is still singing.Last time I saw Scott he was hitting a beef carcass in some recording studio & calling it art/music!!! DOH! he's really come on in the last few decades!

[newjersi08]

Yeah, and Frankie Valli hasn't been able to hit high notes in years. He needs to retire his formerly squeeky voice.

[newjersi08]

At least Walker is doing something different and avant-garde, something way out of Frankie Valli's New Jersey-asses' league!

[rontenn]

newjersi08 Hitting a dead cow is avant garde?? The only thing that stinks is the dead cow & your opinion!

[BillyJackets]

I am a big 4 seasons fan but The Walker Brothers pwowned this song

[LizzieBGood]

Walker Bros hardly one hit wonders, HUGE in the 60's

[moorlock2003]

The Walker Brothers had two No. 1 hits in the UK and several other Top 20 hits. They were bigger than The Beatles in Japan, maintaining a fan base long after they split up. "The Walker Bros. Live In Japan" is a great live album.

[rerunjas]

On this song, The Walker Bros. Rule!

[donnie4607]

Scott Walker is good on this song, but I don't

care about one hit wonders. I like the tight

harmonies of Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons much more on this song. I love Cher's version.

[pezhead915]

it kinda has that rightious brothers sound, i love Frankies version

[pezhead915]

gaudio and crewe were supposedly writing this for the rightious brothers. frankie walked by the door of the room they were writing it in and said I WANT IT. and that was it. thats what i read somewhere, who knows how true it is

[hillaryclinton71]

The Walker Brothers version is just better, this one sounds to slow and drags in comparison, and Scott Walker's voice is great.

[youset1983]

this is nothing compared to the walker brothers version

[gaguy1967]

Walker bros is the best

[santnicola]

Great song by Crewe and Gaudio........THE WALKER BROS. version in 1966 was much superior in atmospheric sound production and chart action.

[furfurylmercaptan]

Yet another beautiful neglected Four Seasons original.

[steven1660]

Everyone should check out Cher's version, it's great, one of her best performances!