There was definitely a lack of response to the fire. Not near enough manpower or equipment on the scene. Regardless if it is a total loss or not. The response should have been greater. What is with the little engine out front? That is like pissing on a forest fire. Even if it becomes defensive, which it was, they should have surround and drowned.
@firefightermat2010 Maybe thats all they had and the next trucks were 20+ minutes away? There is a ladder truck set up in back. I am sure there is more than what you see
@TheWSAVA I love reading dumb comments like yours. That is what you would consider a total loss...there is nothing to save at that point...you think they are going to risk their lives for a structure thats already completely engulfed? Think.
@arcticfox6428 and that is why america has no history. You all think everything should be knocked down and re-built after 20 years. In the UK, there are many schools in buildings about 300 years old or more. My schools old building (only moved due to spacing and government requirements on sports), is 400 years old and is still used...but as flats!!!
This is what you get in communities that either can't afford a water system or those that choose not to have a fire department or a water system. Can't put a fire without water or a team of fire fighters.
To Bad they never got a good water system in the town. The Price you pay to live the country. Sorry for the loss of a Nice looking building. And now the kid's are going to be at a loss for a while
This fire is a defensive operation. I wish you well in your training. I really do hope you make it, and that you continue to watch videos like this and continue to learn. I know many people post negative things and such, but try to weed those out and ignore them and learn as much as you can by watching the various departments working. This site is a very good learning tool, sometimes for what not to do, but mostly very good and positive work. I hope you are successful !!! :-)
And lastly, IF you could enter this buidling, which you can't, what resources do you have to mount an attack? You have limited or no water at this point. Even if you had unlimited water, what are your plans? 2 1/2 attack lines through the front door? Your engine is outside the collapse zone, are you going to just keep screwing together hose sections as you advance? Are you going to shore up the second floor as you advance? You have to consider logistics as well. See my point? Uk or US,
This is, and I am certain your instructors would agree, a death trap for anyone inside. It is already collapsing, look at the porch. The upper windows are full of fire on the right side, and the fire is through the left and right side roof. If you want to walk in underneath that at the point you see it in this video, you need to revisit the section in your training manual on my favorite section, risk assessment. I have preached about that on here before. I recommend you review that section.
the fire started buy electrical wirering or lightning hit it thats what we heard but i think they set that shit fire cus oh they got a board of education there they had plans for the board of education to be there so the lit the some bitch up thats all it is to it you fuckers are dumb and they built the board way to fuckin big and they spent millions of our money on it but hay i dont fucken care just a freeka ccident hahahah not fuckin dumb bitches they expect us to belieave that and we did
@rideabonzaco, i am training to be a fire fighter in the UK, when we have fire's like that over here, we attack the blaze from the base of the fire. from what i can see all you are doing is spraying water over it?
in order to put out a fire and save as much of the buiding as possable ( which we try and do everytime over here ) you have to attack it from the base, not 30-40 foot in the air, also, we woud have probaly had a team go in to the building to attack it at the source
@GJgay GJ, I understand you are in training, so please do not take this as mean spirited. As I have stated previously, I am a retired engine capt. Let me tell you right off the bat, none of my people would be sent inside that building. From the point the video starts, this is a defensive operation. Secondly, see bonzaco's comments. He is dead on the money with the rural water situation. You can not attack the base (or source) of this fire, which we do whenever possible over here as well.
thier was no onethier in the building. and no one should have to bearoundthe biuldin for it to fall on them. So yall growns upsgrow up and stop bein dumbasses
thier was no onethier in the building. and no one should have to bearoundthe biuldin for it to fall on them. So yall growns upsgrow up and bein dumbasses
wow this a not a good showing for the FD. they should have used gas to speed it up so they didnt have to waste money with the trucks around using fuel, because there not doing shit
So all I am saying is that you can't look at a video and say, "Why are they not putting water on it?" when you don't know what resources they have. Just watch the video and make your own assumptions but don't critisize unless you were there and know what the Logistics Officer was dealing with. If you were there then you can say what could have been done better for training purposes only, not to piss someone off because they are just trying to help, and they do a good job at it, too.
on another note...If you have a 500 gallon tank, 1500gpm pump how long does it take to use all that water at maximum gpm? Even though most of the time you are only running one maybe two master streams on that size of a fire. each master stream is 350GPM or more. So your water is GONE in less than a minute. that will not cool the fire of that size significantly to stop combustion. If you live where I do with no hydrants, all that water must be trucked in. Good luck Mr. Logistics Officer!!
I am on a very rural FD and I can tell you that water is like gold. You use it VERY sparingly and wisely. We have 5 water tenders (not tankers out here, if you order a tanker you get a C-130 with retardant) and we use every bit of that water. If we have people out of town and can't get the water there is nothing we can do but secure the area and protect any surrounding structures / wildland. On one small house fire we used over 14 tenders and emptied them all, and still the area was very hot.
@rideabonzaco i also am a firefighter in a small VERY VERY rural community and last week we emptied our tanker 7 times and our pumper 4 or 5 times at a huge 2 home fire.
so i know what you mean by water is a firefighters gold
I dont know why all of you guys are complaining about the lack of water...see all that white smoke? that is steam, that is WATER BEING PUT ON THE FIRE. This building is obviously large, it's old which means it is many times more flammable that most buildings....when a building this old catches fire it usually goes up immediately and there's not much these firefighters can do.
For the one thats talking bad about the firedepartments fuck yall we did wat we could do and that was made sure no one was hurt and try 2 put it out even thought thier was no saving that school cuz of some dumbass people trying 2 blam some shit on a falsewire line.....they just needed some money for thier new damn board of education building
@FirefighterGillen Yea well what if that shit exploded or collapsed ontop of spectators, or there was a person trapped somewhere inside that could not be seen or heard?
For the one thats talking bad about the firedepartments fuck yall we did wat we could do and that was made sure no one was hurt and try 2 put it out even thought thier was no saving that school cuz of some dumbass people trying 2 blam some shit on a falsewire line.....they just needed some money for thier new damn board of education building
For the one thats talking bad about the firedepartments fuck yall we did wat we could do and that was made sure no one was hurt and try 2 put it out even thought thier was no saving that school cuz of some dumbass people trying 2 blam some shit on a falsewire line.....they just needed some money for thier new damn board of education building
Where is the rest of the dept or mutual aid? Only 1 engine in front of the fire building? And only 1 ladder on the side?... Unless there were 10 engines and another 3-4 ladders behind the fire building, you need to rethink the mutual aid plan with the depts.
I used to live right accross from that school, i moved three years, i started crying just when i looked up bibb county, how did the fire start? omg...that is heartbreaking
my dad was one of the firefighters there, i myself am a firefighter in training and hope to be as good as him one day, and im sry for your loss bamabritt06
Those curly pillars - shaped like Mozart's wig - look shocked and scared. That's the trouble with school fires - they're the most ghostly fires of all. If rebuilding takes place, the old school will still be haunted by the fire. At one school, burnt years ago, alarms always go off on the anniversary of the fire. Some even see flames and smoke which are not actually there.
It was undergoing rennovation and something happened. Faulty wiring or a small spark. I dunno. I went to school there and 35 years ago we used to clean the old pine heartwood floors with oil and a mop and sawdust. I shudder to think how saturated with oil those old floors were over the years. A small spark would probably have torched it in minutes.
@Tidefan324 The roof burned off one section of my jr. high school after a workman dropped a torch on it, but the roof was just about the only flammable part of it; they rebuilt it. The walls were brick, concrete and tile; even the inside walls weren't painted. People say '60s buildings are depressing, but that one proved its worth.
how did this happen
kennedyrocker123 3 days ago
Student: welp, I'm going home early today
TheMike16112 1 week ago
There was definitely a lack of response to the fire. Not near enough manpower or equipment on the scene. Regardless if it is a total loss or not. The response should have been greater. What is with the little engine out front? That is like pissing on a forest fire. Even if it becomes defensive, which it was, they should have surround and drowned.
firefightermat2010 1 week ago
@firefightermat2010 Maybe thats all they had and the next trucks were 20+ minutes away? There is a ladder truck set up in back. I am sure there is more than what you see
bcfirefighter3 1 day ago
Looks like the janitor got pissed.
SupermarioMadness 2 weeks ago
@TheWSAVA I love reading dumb comments like yours. That is what you would consider a total loss...there is nothing to save at that point...you think they are going to risk their lives for a structure thats already completely engulfed? Think.
HellFire6006 3 weeks ago
@HellFire6006 he has a point they should do somthing
MrRymantheman 3 weeks ago
12/16 is my birthday! But now it is the schools death date.
drumguard1 4 weeks ago
i miss the junior high....
kendraboo94 1 month ago
laat je reet exploderen jongh
firegadget2000 1 month ago
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billeyjbob5000 1 month ago
this video is alrigh
aaron43671 1 month ago
how scary ......
icantfing 1 month ago
oops
davisotj1 2 months ago
School's out forever
sneezabonk 2 months ago
It seems the fire brigade did a swell job
cccetomacrogol 2 months ago
Y MY SCHOOL NEVER ON FIRE, Y ME NO HAVE FRIENDS
NFS13EPIC 2 months ago
@NFS13EPIC Because you dont speak correct english.. let me pu it in terms you will understand. U 2 DUM 2 HAVE FRIENDS
tagger5532 2 months ago
@tagger5532 Y YOU FORGOT TO PUT THE T ON PUT??? Y U HAVE FRIENDS forever alone.jpg
NFS13EPIC 2 months ago
YIPPIE NO MORE SCHOOL FOREVER I THINK
wolfsrule31 2 months ago
no school XD
wolfsrule31 2 months ago
this was on my birthday
Mrsupersonicspeed95 2 months ago
There was no school being held there at the time of the fire. It was in the process of being renovated to house the Board of Education.
thefirstfamily3 2 months ago 7
My older cousin went to that school. He was there the day the fire happened. LUCKLY he go out safely!
THANK GOD!!!!!
firealarmfreak455 2 months ago
@firealarmfreak455 There Was no classes that day ?
ByWolfFX 2 months ago
What was the cause?
StrawberrieSmothie12 2 months ago
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what started the fire?
CWM880 3 months ago
I never realized this till now, but WHO THE FUCK KEEPS A SCHOOL FOR 100 YEARS?
arcticfox6428 3 months ago
@arcticfox6428 and that is why america has no history. You all think everything should be knocked down and re-built after 20 years. In the UK, there are many schools in buildings about 300 years old or more. My schools old building (only moved due to spacing and government requirements on sports), is 400 years old and is still used...but as flats!!!
XxXNouillesXxX 3 months ago
@XxXNouillesXxX
We never had very many 400 year old buildings to begin with.
ewd76 2 months ago
@XxXNouillesXxX
Closest thing we ever had was Jamestown, which was completely abandoned because it was never a good place to live.
ewd76 2 months ago
This is what you get in communities that either can't afford a water system or those that choose not to have a fire department or a water system. Can't put a fire without water or a team of fire fighters.
skiqsr 3 months ago
To Bad they never got a good water system in the town. The Price you pay to live the country. Sorry for the loss of a Nice looking building. And now the kid's are going to be at a loss for a while
natebaby55man 3 months ago
Great truck placement fellers.
happyjack880 3 months ago
NO SCHOOL! :D
maddiieeftw 3 months ago
@maddiieeftw yeah no school for them because of the fire :D
wolfsrule31 2 months ago
Someone forget to turn a budson off?
shawnhbkdx90 3 months ago
how did it start
Andwrightrocks 3 months ago
WTF HOW DO THAY DO THING IN THE BIBE COUNTY FD NO WATTER? WOW
mrrockdaddy100 3 months ago
i cant exactly see anyone putting it out, and who can blame them
EagleEye4838 4 months ago
N More School? :D?
Cmom137 4 months ago
thats terrible=[
TheyxSeexMexTrollin 4 months ago
if that was my school ..i woud run over and put som more gas on the fire :D
theo1307tog 4 months ago
If that school is 100 years old, then they needed a new school.
arcticfox6428 5 months ago
holly hell
101webkinzluv 5 months ago
luv no scool
lilamy73 5 months ago
its just a drill
WRFD46firefighter 6 months ago
@WRFD46firefighter how can that be a drill its on fire
theoliviakitty 5 months ago
Wait, schools actually do catch on fire? I thought all those fire drills were just getting me out of my math classes!
dakman3113 6 months ago 21
no SCHOOL
dounutkid123 6 months ago
now that jus brings a smile to my face a school on fire o hell yea
gx4685 6 months ago
FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE X3!!
ShadowFan06 7 months ago
This fire is a defensive operation. I wish you well in your training. I really do hope you make it, and that you continue to watch videos like this and continue to learn. I know many people post negative things and such, but try to weed those out and ignore them and learn as much as you can by watching the various departments working. This site is a very good learning tool, sometimes for what not to do, but mostly very good and positive work. I hope you are successful !!! :-)
covewatcher 7 months ago 2
And lastly, IF you could enter this buidling, which you can't, what resources do you have to mount an attack? You have limited or no water at this point. Even if you had unlimited water, what are your plans? 2 1/2 attack lines through the front door? Your engine is outside the collapse zone, are you going to just keep screwing together hose sections as you advance? Are you going to shore up the second floor as you advance? You have to consider logistics as well. See my point? Uk or US,
covewatcher 7 months ago
This is, and I am certain your instructors would agree, a death trap for anyone inside. It is already collapsing, look at the porch. The upper windows are full of fire on the right side, and the fire is through the left and right side roof. If you want to walk in underneath that at the point you see it in this video, you need to revisit the section in your training manual on my favorite section, risk assessment. I have preached about that on here before. I recommend you review that section.
covewatcher 7 months ago
the students who went to that school would be lucky to have years off school until the new one has been built
bieny10 7 months ago
its just common they saved money by burning it down dont you see
thelastwilddude00 8 months ago
the fire started buy electrical wirering or lightning hit it thats what we heard but i think they set that shit fire cus oh they got a board of education there they had plans for the board of education to be there so the lit the some bitch up thats all it is to it you fuckers are dumb and they built the board way to fuckin big and they spent millions of our money on it but hay i dont fucken care just a freeka ccident hahahah not fuckin dumb bitches they expect us to belieave that and we did
thelastwilddude00 8 months ago
@rideabonzaco, i am training to be a fire fighter in the UK, when we have fire's like that over here, we attack the blaze from the base of the fire. from what i can see all you are doing is spraying water over it?
in order to put out a fire and save as much of the buiding as possable ( which we try and do everytime over here ) you have to attack it from the base, not 30-40 foot in the air, also, we woud have probaly had a team go in to the building to attack it at the source
GJgay 8 months ago
@GJgay GJ, I understand you are in training, so please do not take this as mean spirited. As I have stated previously, I am a retired engine capt. Let me tell you right off the bat, none of my people would be sent inside that building. From the point the video starts, this is a defensive operation. Secondly, see bonzaco's comments. He is dead on the money with the rural water situation. You can not attack the base (or source) of this fire, which we do whenever possible over here as well.
covewatcher 7 months ago
that looks like a court house
Rainbowstar668 9 months ago
thubs up if you wish that would happen to your own school :)
HalesNoobs 10 months ago 2
100 years old? damn i'm surprised something like this didn't happen sooner.
TheSteinmetz342 11 months ago
where's bibb county,alabama
wclevel3 1 year ago
@wclevel3 Above Below Jefferson and kinda next to Shelby.
highlanderhybrid 7 months ago
how did the fire start
wclevel3 1 year ago
do uk how it started
cody4168 1 year ago
we still miss this building :(
8267592grl 1 year ago
thier was no onethier in the building. and no one should have to bearoundthe biuldin for it to fall on them. So yall growns upsgrow up and stop bein dumbasses
FirefighterGillen 1 year ago
thier was no onethier in the building. and no one should have to bearoundthe biuldin for it to fall on them. So yall growns upsgrow up and bein dumbasses
FirefighterGillen 1 year ago
is that was my school id be crying well my schools in a village and it was built in 1959 i tink it was in the 1950's anywayz
5angelface 1 year ago
wow this a not a good showing for the FD. they should have used gas to speed it up so they didnt have to waste money with the trucks around using fuel, because there not doing shit
knlb06 1 year ago
i love when people talk smart on here
knlb06 1 year ago
i remember that
oceauna 1 year ago
I think it would be impossible to make it look the same after the fire, so that was probably why they didn't spray much water.
clarkloveselevators 1 year ago
I remember that. :(
I love that school.
And miss it.
heartzempire 1 year ago
what was the cause?
1stresponder1 1 year ago
i used to go to this school and had good times there and to watch it burn to the ground breaks my heart
goofysoutherner07 1 year ago
So all I am saying is that you can't look at a video and say, "Why are they not putting water on it?" when you don't know what resources they have. Just watch the video and make your own assumptions but don't critisize unless you were there and know what the Logistics Officer was dealing with. If you were there then you can say what could have been done better for training purposes only, not to piss someone off because they are just trying to help, and they do a good job at it, too.
rideabonzaco 1 year ago 3
@rideabonzaco Well said....
arpscec 1 year ago
on another note...If you have a 500 gallon tank, 1500gpm pump how long does it take to use all that water at maximum gpm? Even though most of the time you are only running one maybe two master streams on that size of a fire. each master stream is 350GPM or more. So your water is GONE in less than a minute. that will not cool the fire of that size significantly to stop combustion. If you live where I do with no hydrants, all that water must be trucked in. Good luck Mr. Logistics Officer!!
rideabonzaco 1 year ago 11
@rideabonzaco the school is next to a river
petehenderson 10 months ago
I am on a very rural FD and I can tell you that water is like gold. You use it VERY sparingly and wisely. We have 5 water tenders (not tankers out here, if you order a tanker you get a C-130 with retardant) and we use every bit of that water. If we have people out of town and can't get the water there is nothing we can do but secure the area and protect any surrounding structures / wildland. On one small house fire we used over 14 tenders and emptied them all, and still the area was very hot.
rideabonzaco 1 year ago 13
@rideabonzaco i also am a firefighter in a small VERY VERY rural community and last week we emptied our tanker 7 times and our pumper 4 or 5 times at a huge 2 home fire.
so i know what you mean by water is a firefighters gold
butnob951 2 months ago
I dont know why all of you guys are complaining about the lack of water...see all that white smoke? that is steam, that is WATER BEING PUT ON THE FIRE. This building is obviously large, it's old which means it is many times more flammable that most buildings....when a building this old catches fire it usually goes up immediately and there's not much these firefighters can do.
VFVFCo68 1 year ago
For the one thats talking bad about the firedepartments fuck yall we did wat we could do and that was made sure no one was hurt and try 2 put it out even thought thier was no saving that school cuz of some dumbass people trying 2 blam some shit on a falsewire line.....they just needed some money for thier new damn board of education building
FirefighterGillen 1 year ago
@FirefighterGillen Yea well what if that shit exploded or collapsed ontop of spectators, or there was a person trapped somewhere inside that could not be seen or heard?
MemorywipeProduction 1 year ago
@FirefighterGillen + Your a firefighter, act proffesional.
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For the one thats talking bad about the firedepartments fuck yall we did wat we could do and that was made sure no one was hurt and try 2 put it out even thought thier was no saving that school cuz of some dumbass people trying 2 blam some shit on a falsewire line.....they just needed some money for thier new damn board of education building
FirefighterGillen 1 year ago
For the one thats talking bad about the firedepartments fuck yall we did wat we could do and that was made sure no one was hurt and try 2 put it out even thought thier was no saving that school cuz of some dumbass people trying 2 blam some shit on a falsewire line.....they just needed some money for thier new damn board of education building
FirefighterGillen 1 year ago
where is that water when you need it\!!!
shortcrossrulezz 1 year ago
exactly......where the f**k is the water. The tower was there since the beginning and not a squirt.
ballsofun 1 year ago
As with every other video of ANY american fire service i watch, i find myself asking the same question, WHERE THE HELL IS THE WATER,
Why do they ever turn up, WHATS THE POINT ????????????
z1bgreg 1 year ago
trust me ive seen mult pics their was more departments and apparatus on scene
CFD200 1 year ago
Where the hell is the aid? No point in going inside that but i dont see any other depts
aaronkundla 1 year ago
Where is the rest of the dept or mutual aid? Only 1 engine in front of the fire building? And only 1 ladder on the side?... Unless there were 10 engines and another 3-4 ladders behind the fire building, you need to rethink the mutual aid plan with the depts.
PureShot101 1 year ago
I used to live right accross from that school, i moved three years, i started crying just when i looked up bibb county, how did the fire start? omg...that is heartbreaking
InuZbaby147 2 years ago
this is landon i go to this school district i am class of 2013 i am a ninth grader
turdbandit1 2 years ago
Maybe my school will catch on fire next. ^_^
Austin1112Roblox 2 years ago
no school?
camo673 2 years ago
my dad was one of the firefighters there, i myself am a firefighter in training and hope to be as good as him one day, and im sry for your loss bamabritt06
AmericanMan44 2 years ago
sad to see such a bueatiful old building go into flames
zachray263 2 years ago
Those curly pillars - shaped like Mozart's wig - look shocked and scared. That's the trouble with school fires - they're the most ghostly fires of all. If rebuilding takes place, the old school will still be haunted by the fire. At one school, burnt years ago, alarms always go off on the anniversary of the fire. Some even see flames and smoke which are not actually there.
Hedgeweed 2 years ago
and wich school may that be?
alarm776 2 years ago
Sorry, didn't see this until today. The school is in Hampshire, England.
Hedgeweed 2 years ago
no it isnt...
DeeJo87 2 years ago
You're retarded.
dmn110 2 years ago
Good. Better than being boring. That's your department.
Hedgeweed 2 years ago
how did this fire start?
kels027 3 years ago
It was undergoing rennovation and something happened. Faulty wiring or a small spark. I dunno. I went to school there and 35 years ago we used to clean the old pine heartwood floors with oil and a mop and sawdust. I shudder to think how saturated with oil those old floors were over the years. A small spark would probably have torched it in minutes.
Tidefan324 2 years ago 2
@Tidefan324 The roof burned off one section of my jr. high school after a workman dropped a torch on it, but the roof was just about the only flammable part of it; they rebuilt it. The walls were brick, concrete and tile; even the inside walls weren't painted. People say '60s buildings are depressing, but that one proved its worth.
lrd9999 1 month ago
my old school dewdz
UrbanMummy 3 years ago
A memorial to my grandfather burned in there. :[
bamabritt06 3 years ago
that sucks, sorry to hear that.
bullzisnipr3 3 years ago 2
Really? I'm really sorry that happened.
skatergirl24567 2 years ago