Fracking and the Environment: Natural Gas Drilling, Hydraulic Fracturing and Water Contamination

[SteveTheViking88]

I can assure the Polish guys on here that things like this will not happen in Europe. This is a young process, lessons have been learned from the testing in the US and it's now as safe as houses. It's only the cowboys who screw up. France (the great protesters) have banned this process without reason, Poland will be the hub of the shale oil industry instead. As for "OnenessNow", that will only happen if every single person in the world gets involved and it'll still take 25 years...

[Yumar9]

@SteveTheViking88 "Poland will be the hub of the shale oil industry instead" ONLY because

POLISH POLITICS and MEDIA - HAVE SWINDLED POLISH NATION - AT ALL!! (there's no Opposition - in this... BIG GAS-CORRUPTION !)

Poles are completely -DESINFORMED about Truth of Fracturing

Nobody can say - about Contaminations, only Sweet Gas-Paradise (though polish gas in...99% is gift for no Poles !!!)

40 mln people in Poland -are kept in closed balloon of Big Lie.

Of Frack Holocaust

[OnenessNow]

Watch GASLAND !!! The powerful documentary by director Josh Fox.

Trailer here: watch?v=dZe1AeH0Qz8 Share with your friends and family.

Whole documentary at topdocumentaryfilms[dot]com[sl­­­ash]gasland

This process endangers WATER, AIR and SOIL for all of Humankind.

Help us BAN this Fracking and develop SOLAR, WIND TURBINE, MAGNETIC,

HYDRO KINETIC and GEO THERMAL.NOW.

[OnenessNow]

311 the World woke up and decided NO NUKES and NO FLUKES We ask for the END OF THE NUCLEAR NIGHTMARE ON EARTH. We DEMAND THE END OF TOXIC POWER SYSTEMS ON EARTH. Let us BAN HYDRO FRACKING IN AMERICA as this POISONS MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER Let us DEMAND THE END OF THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL CORPORATE COMPLEX NOW. Let us DEMAND THE END OF ENDLESS WARS ON HUMANKIND Let us DEVELOP IN UNITY the Energy of SOLAR, MAGNETIC, WIND TURBINE,GEO THERMAL& HYDRO KINETIC4ALL POWER

[desperatomm]

Thank you Pokemon for clearing that up. I feel so much safer now knowing that. NOT!



[mphello]

Gas and coal corporations (and others) make up lies without absolutely any proof whatsoever that Greenpeace and environmental organizations lie and make statements without proof.

[b3r3o3c3]

Two quick things to remember...1 mineral right owners have to sign the lease for the well to be drilled. So why not go after them? And 2 big oil and/or gas? It's a high risk, high expense business. The gas company I work for sets aside around 300,000 dollars per well for a new well, that's drilling, fracking, and all the line hookups. Just basic new well start up. Our wells are shallow and pretty easy to drill. They aren't really high producers. But to spend a big chunk of cash to drill a we

[TheRakuman]

Little we can do to change what is already so far in motion. Those that have the money will continue to contaminate and pollute because they can. Those without enough money to do anything about it will suffer. This is how it works people, get a grip! Here is the reality though. God will bring to ruin those who are ruining the earth!

[MrNiemen1]

and now they move here

Łebień Poland

half of the country have it

[MrNiemen1]

sh..t and they start drilling 12km from my home.

Yuup everybody your guis never have enoght.

this is where I live

sasino Poland

[Yumar9]

@MrNiemen1 Why You don't fight for Your Fundamental, Human RIGHTS???!!!

What are You waiting for???

For Aid?

From where?!

As I know, as I've heard form polish peoples, as I saw myself in Poland, Your Politics - HAVE CHEATED YOU!, they are looking only for money and Pink Lies of Gas-Power!

They are - Stupid, Little Boys, Big Swindlers, Bastards of USrael , Cowards.

Didn"t You Know?!

They've never told You -any word of Truth about Fracturing Pollutions and Risk for Water!

Scandal

[hottyfromnotty]

Fracking is evil and destroys the water table permanently. As the1yage said, these corporations are evil, and need to be stopped by a unified movement of people...death to the system and NWO

[laurasIs2c]

Anyone who knows how to protest against these profiteers, please pass the information on hear....We need to fight against this with all the passion of the "No Nukes" movement!

[lfcovelli]

You people watch Gasland and get all hyped up without any scientific evidence to support your claims. One glaring error in the film GASLAND is the suggestion that gas drilling led to the September fish kill at Dunkard Creek in Greene County. That was determined to have been caused by a golden algae bloom from coal mine drainage, (from CONSOL Energy discharge), NOT natural gas drilling.

Get the facts!!!

[lfcovelli]

Everyone who believes this is an idiot.

[laurasIs2c]

@lfcovelli Would you mind elaborating? 

[lfcovelli]

@laurasIs2c

Not a problem. I will elaborate further..

It is also interesting to note that Hydrofracturing is a standard practice used for well water drilling to produce more well water output. Areas with excessive amounts of granite below ground have their water wells fracked. It is funny, people like the greenpeace and sierra club nuts latch onto anything and turn it into another wack job idea that is based on NO proven evidence.. CH4 is naturally occurring and in the ground deal with it.

[laurasIs2c]

Respond to this video...  Do you mind elaborating? The truth to tell " Liars can say it all just as well, and usually do because they are going to get paid and don't think they can legalized the deaths an gag anyone they want!

[webaroos]

Watched Josh Fox's doco and realised how fucked the US is, Cheney the fracking master is poisoning all future generations and terrain with combinations of 560 different chemical compounds, the condenser units dotted all over the US emit poisonous gasses seen visibly using infra red camera, not visible to the naked eye. Clean green natural gas is a big lie, it is the most perniciously destructive process foisted on the US public. Buy shares in bottled water and get a TDS water analyser quick.

[cazzajecko]

Fracking evil, in fact!!

[13dazza13]

These coal seam gas capitalist extremists should all be sent to there room. They are going to do far worse damage than Muslim terrorists.

[eddiequest4]

I want to know the chemicals that they DON'T list.

[eddiequest4]

I find it odd that they SAY they don't want to reveal their chemical lists (trade secrets), when all that crap comes up into our water anyway.

[rowdykain8]

@eddiequest4 actually, all the companies have revealed the lists of chemicals to the government back in November. So the government knows what is getting put in the ground and don't have a problem with it.

[eddiequest4]

@rowdykain8 Typical Slumberger response. [ The 'government' was fine with smoking, too.]

[rowdykain8]

@eddiequest4 Yea. and the Horizon spill killed the gulf as well. How'd that turn out. Oh wait, the sky is falling!

[eddiequest4]

@rowdykain8 yes it is. what goes up will come down. best get your hardhat on. and just for those REAL people who are reading this, companies have NOT revealed any chemical lists. if they did, those of us who like drinking clean water would be doing everything we can to stop this stupidity.

[rowdykain8]

@eddiequest4 Where were u in December? All the major companies turn that information over to the government at their request. All but Halliburton. So they received many complaints from share holders and finally turned the over in Feb. So the government has everyones Chemical lists for the past 5 months and still no issues. Besides Schlumbeerger is the only company that uses biodegradable chemicals as an extra to ensure nothing harms the environment.

[suzeikew]

@rowdykain8 guess i'd have a problem with the government, then, often proven to err on the side of ... capitalism.

[rowdykain8]

@suzeikew capitalism is not the problem. It's liberalism! You people want he government to give you your healthcare, SSI and Medicare but they are not smart enough to handle this? Come on!!! Just to let you know drilling and fracing are two completely different processes in the completion of a gas well. One has absolutely to do with the other. So all of you may want to read and learn about something before passing judgment. I thought y'all were suppose to be the smarter humans?

[sandaddict666]

Anyone who has a problem with fracking must really enjoy our dependence on foreign oil. Its all a cartel over there. If you're bitching about how the oil is extracted then I hope you ride your bike to work. Its a necessary evil. It's a very beneficial and mostly safe procedure. If you think you have a better way to power that car of yours im all ears, until then ..

you cant be part of the problem and bitch about it....

[SerialKiller19036]

The scumbag drilling companies, Haliburton, the EPA, the Politicians are all in bed together. As long as the gasholes keep paying off the creepy Politicians, this crime against nature will go on forever.

[ljones121]

oh and before you all complain, your gas prices are mostly high not because of the oil companies or the sellers but your own goverment taxing the living crap out of it.

[phoeberiley101]

This is because they are using a method that does not work. If fraced with propane, there is no residue. I urge every reader to check out GasFrac Energy and see how they are doing it.

Now I can hear you now...propane...that is a gas...right..and we use it on on grills, we heat our houses with it and there is not negative affect. The propane is 100% recoverable. NO WATER

[phoeberiley101]

There is a method that can be used to frac gas without an environmental or health issue///// GasFrac Energy. Pull up their website and you will see that if fraced with propane, with NO WATER INVOLVED

[onojmai]

@orbitjoshg i would never drink contaminated water, and why would i change my mind? oil/gas drilling is dangerous and risky. example- screw ups in pennsylvania have led to isolated contamination, but not do to fracking but procedural errors on the well capping. we can protest the oil/gas companies by turning off the furnace, hot water, selling our cars, and growing all our food in our backyards. otherwise, we must concede our demand for oil/gas creates the supply.  not the other way around.

[claybourg]

@onojmai We can fire governments that prefer lucrative solutions rather than safe ones like wind, solar and hydro. Fracking was taken off the Safe Water Act in 2005 by W and Cheney. Now that we know fracking is a Halliburton technology, the relationship is evident. One more present from the most corrupt administration in US history that is in the process of destroying US drinking water resources. In a few years the US will need to invade Canada for their water if it's still save over there too.

[onojmai]

@claybourg wow. halliburton is in the popular vernacular, so negatively. halliburton did not develop the technology, and many companies use it- but it's halliburton that you tag. from your statement, i assume you're a geologist, you know hydrogeology and hydrocarbon shale formations, permeabilities over thousands of feet of many layers of rock and that are well aware of the teapot dome scandal of another administration. you're knowledge base amazes me!

[bluesmann8]

Its the first time i've heard of this fracking but not halliburton, evil bastar-s

[the1yage]

These companies are fucking evil. Nobody would not accept dishonest, reckless behavior like this from a neighbor or coworker. Why do we accept it when people hide behind the legal fiction of a corporation?

[PokemonMaster1015]

Halliburton is not a Drilling company they fracture the well after driling is completed. they dont Own the wells either they are just a service company for the oil companies

[onojmai]

halliburton- popular, hated name. fracking- a necessary application to acquire cheap, domestic fuel. well water affected via fracking- possible, without a doubt.

medical consequences of the wells- that's a hard call, and irresponsible without empirical study. lawsuit and media frenzy is fraught with confirmation bias.

card carrying member of the sierra club and geologist speaking here.

[onojmai]

@onojmai most americans want a cheap, clean source of fuel to heat their homes. democracy now! suggests we look elsewhere for fossil fuels. at what point must we accept reality- the environmental costs- for domestic production to heat our homes, fuel our commerce?

fracking is everywhere. yes, there are consequences. Democracy Now does a great expose, but only relates a micro-effect of such drilling. at a macro-level, most conscientious folks would accept it as a neceessary enviro-cost

[tripfunkmonster]

@onojmai: A disingenuous argument because, thanks to corporate lobbying, we don't have the means as a society to do enough testing of wells to prove the environmental impact of fracking (to the satisfaction of corporate members of Congress). Government is under attack by Wall St. & until that changes corporations will get their way every time. Meanwhile, cancer rates will continue to rise, as well as other life threatening diseases.

[onojmai]

@tripfunkmonster i tested wells on thursday. testing wells happens every day- it's not expensive, and very common. every town has hydrogeologist testing ground water. fracking itself is safe- it's industry procedures that carry risks (namely, casings and containment of frack fluids). gotta love the wall st red herring. that's a popular rally cry, and distracts from the point. but thanks.

[tripfunkmonster]

@onojmai: What do you test for?

[onojmai]

@tripfunkmonster everything- salts, heavy metals, etc. over one hundred shallow and deep wells exist to supply a town and major university- all directly adjacent to an old landfill. well testing is very, very common! the other thing that this video doesn't mention- that natural gas naturally occurs in groundwater in these areas- and in western Pennsylvania (marcellus shale region) the much of the groundwater is crap to begin with! so it's a fudged baseline to measure.

[tripfunkmonster]

@onojmai: Who gets the results? Federal, state, local, all of these? Are large amounts of data put together to see patterns or possibly relationships of the particular elements to nearby industry? (Sorry if I'm asking too many questions) You mentioned risky procedures. That is the point, actually. Many firms don't take the necessary precautions & the underfunding of environmental agencies make it too easy to bypass regulations. Look at mining in W.V. as an example.

[onojmai]

@tripfunkmonster municipal water data is available to everyone. it's how the data is implemented is the question. fracking is new, and not a bad thing- it is a good thing for the average American. but the regulation is lagging- as it history dictates it would- as it emerges as an industry. so many variables involved- containment, casings, local road infrastructure (rural roads/bridges and heavy loads are a major concern) etc etc. it's a big deal, and we need to deal with it- not condemn it.

[onojmai]

@tripfunkmonster one more note- the "halliburton loophole" the media prescribes to industry's ability to pump into the ground undisclosed chemicals should be open to lawsuit if it can be proven that the industry is using chemicals that adversely affect third parties. Fracked gas is good for our domestic energy industry, but equally important- good public health is axiomatic to economics. it's good for us all to be healthy!

[tripfunkmonster]

@onojmai:The use of chemicals that adversely affect drinking water is a major concern for all of us. The reason why people get upset about this type of thing is that companies do whatever it takes to make money and regulation is left up to taxpayer money (for the most part). Therein lies the real problem. People are never willing to allow for enough money to properly oversee these things & raising taxes has become a career-killer. Meanwhile, businesses aren't usually expected to deal with it.

[onojmai]

@tripfunkmonster i can't really argue against subjective statements like that. how to keep industry in check- class actions for one. negligence leading to punitive damages is incentive for self-regulation. however, government regulation will come on board soon enough. and remind yourself that "taxpayer money" includes a businesses- they pay taxes. we'll see a back and forth that will play out over time, with increasing regulation and objective science.

[tripfunkmonster]

@onojmai: I hear you, but punitive damages rarely seem to be significant enough to actually have any effect on the decisions made by corporations. (tons of examples) As far as taxes - businesses pay tax, true, but they wind up benefiting from the ignoring of regulations while most taxpayers don't (& often suffer). Also, "objective science" is often tailored to fit what corporations desire.

[onojmai]

@tripfunkmonster again, a subjective perspective can't be opposed. objective science isn't tailored to anything. it ceases to be objective science when "tailored." this is what i do- we do science, get results. then they're interpreted however people want. as for business- you have your perspective, and i'm not going to argue perspective. chevron just got hit with a $9 billion judgement in ecaudor- (that's about 50% annual income) chevron's appealing, but they won't win. it happens.

[tripfunkmonster]

@onojmai: You mean it happens rarely. Let's see how much money Chevron actually pays & how long it takes. Also, corporations pass debts on to consumers by raising prices- unlike when a person has to pay punitive damages. Then, it comes out of that person's paycheck which usually stays the same. So, in reality, corporations almost never pay punitive damages & oil corporations never do because of fact that they have a cartel plus - governments in their collective pocket.

[onojmai]

@tripfunkmonster it will take a long time for them to pay, as they reduce damages. Bad PR, protracted legal costs- these are losses to the company. all from 40 years ago. increasingly, industry faces consequence for environmental disregard. losses are not profit- that's incentive- but not enough, we all know it. yes, costs translate to the consumer- if you don't like it, stop buying. you're the demand- you create a supply. the consumer benefited from lower prices then. now we pay more.

[tripfunkmonster]

@onojmai: I took my car off the road 3 1/2 years ago because I didn't want to contribute to the oil & insurance cartels (I also wanted to lessen my damage to the environment). I use mass transit & walk a lot - & it takes a lot longer to get everywhere, but I feel better. It bothers me that more people don't do the same, but I keep my mouth shut & keep doing what I'm doing. Thanks for the information - you are one of the few people I've come across on youtube that has taught me anything. Peace.

[mphello]

@tripfunkmonster Congratulations! The 2 most important things EVERYONE should do: go vegan (I've been vegan since 1980) and not reproduce (I've never had and never will have kids). These 2 steps are very easy.

Giving up a car is a hard step, but I plan to take it this year. I ordered an electric-assist tricycle 5 weeks ago. Am waiting for it to arrive. That will replace my car (I hope).

And, no - do NOT keep your mouth shut. Anti-pot, anti-porn politicians don't.

[tripfunkmonster]

@mphello:I keep my mouth shut after I piss people off one time about being aware of how they affect the environment with their every day activities. I recycle everything possible.If there is a "made from recycled" product out there, I buy it - & not another brand that doesn't use recycled. I use the minimum amount of electricity & water possible - within reason. I read a lot, no TV, no planes, no cars, lots of walking & mass transit. I eat fish (sorry), fruit & vegetables, no land animals.Peace.

[NONmareenoire]

you must see this video : WO Shale gaz. A message from a group of artists in Québec Canada

[Adraalto]

GASLAND is worth seeing urgently (VO, with FRENCH SUBTITLES):

noxmail.us/Syl20Jonathan/?p=14­616

"Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realise we cannot eat money"

[TheiJat88]

Hal Burton strikes again!

[bangshift440rt]

@moucon What you don't realize is that they are constantly spilling the chemicals, and the wells are offgassing. Even if they don't screw up the bore.

Explain Dimock, PA, and the Moshannon State Forest well contamination. They both happen to be in Pennsylvania!

[moucon]

What people don't realize is the deep-well fraccing they're doing in PA and NYS takes place a MILE BELOW the bottom of the deepest aquifer. The only way any fraccing chemicals or gas can get into the water supply is if for some reason there is a massive breach in the casing and/or cementing around the casing that seals the vertical segment of the well. Possible? Sure. But very very unlikely. Other states have had fraccing at much shallower depths.

[Romeosierra616]

they signed contracts to allow it o their property, its their own ignorance and their fault.

[lapislazuli7]

I have just heard they are trying out fracking here in Germany, too. It is the first time I have heard of that method... really scary how far people are willing to go!

[benjaminlately]

@lapislazuli7 fracking is safe. People just don't understand how it works. It is very rare for there to be a problem. They use the term "Fracking" like they understand it and think that is is bad, but have no idea how the process really works. I'm not going to argue surface contamination, but geologic contamination is just ignorance for the most part. I'll try to do a basic explanation video sometime in the next few weeks.

[lapislazuli7]

@benjaminlately You won't convince me that it is "safe".

[AnotherAgnostic]

@benjaminlately, why don't you go frack yourself. 

[Eaacker]

I hope nobody likes beef because this is also the water that cattle are eating. The condensates that come out of the well also rain down over grazing land. If you don't think that many of these organic molecules, like benzene, bio accumulate in our food, then think again. These compounds DO NOT naturally break down, they do not biodegrade, so you are ingesting them when you eat food grown/raised in these regions.

[pjamesbda]

"Its quite surprising, but what they found in their preliminary testing.......

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If you are going to post, you should include the most important part of the post. This is youtube 101. Is there a part 2 to this!?

[AllDogsGoToHeaven100]

"Free Energy" is Geothermal powered by volcanos. Why do you think God gave us the Ring of Fire? And why are people messing around with uranium anyway? WE COULD BE PUTTING IN GEO-THERMAL POWER PLANTS JUST AS FAST AS WE PUT IN A DRILLING PAD!!! Silly Humans.

[10231898]

What is the best source to find out if my representatives are acting to stop fracking and the miss-use of water? This is very scary stuff.

[TroyOi]

Can someone with a legal background explain to me how a company can invoke "trade secret" protection on chemicals that it releases into the environment? I thought America got past that stage many decades ago. Does this mean that there is absolutely no branch of the government -- not EPA, not OSHA, not MMS -- to whom these companies need disclose this information??

[AnotherPostcard]

@TroyOi Since the EPA and the OSHA are both federal agencies -- part of the executive branch -- and that whole trade secret thing sounds like it was only meant to prevent public disclosure, my initial assumption would be that they can legally investigate all they want. But! I'm no lawyer, so it's probably a bit more complicated than I'm making it sound. lol

[TroyOi]

@AnotherPostcard I'd guess you're right. Trade secrets rights are all about protecting your (non-patented) products & methods from your competition. My guess is that these companies are required to make environmental impact statements, or something like that, to some fed agency (EPA?). And, perhaps thanks to the non-regulating mindset of our last administration, and especially its intimacy with its fossil fuels pals, the permits were rammed through the system without a thorough review.

[proverb311031]

Pretty soon when the government sell out NY, the people in the whole state will be drinking the 692 chemicals, heavy metals and other nasty thing that would normally kill people on their own, that they use in getting the gas out of the rocks! When people start getting sick and they start being able to burn the gas coming out of their facets i will have a big laugh at how far our country has fallen! The U.S is holdout to the Corporations to the hilt! People rights no longer exists at all!

[10231898]

No one can sue Halliburton in their fracking business. Energy Policy Act of 2005, developed by Dick Cheney and other secret energy industry leaders, which exempted fracking from federal regulation. Unbelievable.

[esigus]

@10231898

So we have to vote out the representatives & senators who allowed it through.

Vote the bastards out.

Vote out your local representatives who allow this shit to go on in your backyard.

Vote them out.

We need our water safe... for drinking, but also for food production.

You can't eat food grown with contaminated water.

There's a new head of the EPA... we'll see how this "new study" turns out.

[PittPat75]

@10231898 "secret energy industry leaders" like 3/4 of Congress and over half the US Senate in 2005...including a Senator Obama...and Ken Salazar...and Byron Dorgan...

[stupidgoodlookings]

lets just destroy the rockies now.....gee what fun. At least the company men will drink their fair share of fracking fluid in their coors light.

[rjricheyjr]

Sounds like we need the likes of the "preacher" from great Clint Eastwood movie "Pale Rider" to run these land rapists out of town.

[IfilmORG]

The company probably thinks that if they cause a resident's untimely death the land will be free to purchase for a low price and then they will be free to poison all they want to poison. Everyone who works for the company who lies about the safety should be made to drink large quantities of this "safe water".

[pahuntnut]

your comments have to be intended as a joke because nobody can be that stupid

[m46nepa]

I really hope that these "environmentalists" are successful in getting drilling for natural gas banned in new york altogether. I live in pennsylvania and new yorks loss will be our gain since drilling and the financial rewards that accompany it are in full swing here.

I'd also love to see natural gas in my water well since it is not poisonous and can be easily seperated for use as a free home heating and cooking fuel.

Drill baby drill...in pennsylvania!

[jtorres133]

Smokie 1812-Well then I guess that must be the water you've been drinking to be talking like you are. It all makes sense to me now.

[BeAnEarthNut]

Fiddle, even whats in your toothpaste tube is toxic you spit it out right, but if its in your water, you drink it, What the hell do you Knot see there happy! Even if there is the gas in the water its TOXIC! all it takes is samples and testing!

[Fiddle315]

What a bunch of total losers and liars. How do these parasites get any incomes?

[Smokie1775]

The EPA has studied the chemicals in fracking fluid and determined they are safe.

The lady's problem of not owning her mineral rights is not the gas company's fault. Did she ever wonder why she bought all of that property so cheap?

As a parent, I can relate to a family water well going sour, but the facts disprove all of these claims.

Most of these people are the same ones who whine about global warming, another situation were the facts disprove all of their shocking claims.

[jtorres133]

Well obviously they are not safe if people can light their water on fire and are having all of these health problems. How f@#$ed up is that!!??? Chemicals safe hah! That's like an oxymoron most chemicals we consume or are in the products we use are usually not good for us or cause some kind of health problems wether they be big or small it doesn't matter. I can't think of many chemicals that are safe.

[esigus]

@Smokie1775

The EPA's report from 2004 was reported numerous times as being "flawed."

Do you believe diesel fuel is safe in your ground water?

Methanol?

Formaldehyde?

The main problem in NY & PA is that high concentrations of people depend on the aquifers for drinking water.

But the land is also used heavily for food production as well as private drinking water wells in the rest of the country.

Money won't fix contaminated water.

Long term, this problem is bigger than money.

[BeAnEarthNut]

they know dam well it IS causing health problems!

[Fiddle315]

Now there is NOTHING in the frac fluid that is ANY different that what you already use in your toothpaste or salad dressing. There is NOTHING that has caused any health issues anywhere becuase of fracing.

[woggmogg]

The whole concept of fracking is not logical, it's like a earthquake and something is bound to go wrong, the whole drilling technology is flawed also, the solution is not present but it's also so essential that hopefully future engineers will be able to resolve.

[adam6620]

@woggmogg

This is a nonsensical response, what is 'not logical' about it? You obviously have no idea how hydrocarbons are produced, however I'm sure that you use them on a daily basis. This kind of ignorance is running rampant in this country today.

[Fiddle315]

n earthquake is MOVEMENT of the griound underneath the surface. Fracing has no effect on any earth movement of any kind. Your intentional ignorance is a true joke.