Undocumented Immigrant Debate: Closing Remarks (11 of 12)

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C SPAN “Black Republican Forum” Session 2 (begin at 11:30) Allen West said one of the 1986 caveats was to secure our borders and enforcement our laws, but haven’t happened. (We’re still talking about new amnesty like DREAM Act.) We can’t allow local cities to make sanctuary cities policies, because they will bring our inner city turf wars to epic proportions by bringing in the drug cartel and Columbian gangs. (Mexican Gangs don’t recognize our borders established by the Treaty of Guadalupe)

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In November 2010, the unemployment rate was 9.8% with 15.1 million unemployed. (15.1 million/9.8%) = 154 million are able to work in the workforce. 11,941,812 (or 11.9 million) skilled jobs provided to illegal immigrants. GOOGLE “illegal immigration counters”, the 15.1 million unemployed could take the 11.9 million available jobs. The unemployment rate could be reduced to 2.1% {{15.1-11.9)/154}

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Allen West 2012

[mrluke13]

to me atleast the anti immigrant is out of touch with reality...you heard her say (mcdoanld) "We have not tried to enforce it"...

we have been trying to it doesnt work...she is out of touch...i wish i was in this debate

[JeremysVideos]

crazycoolone - Nobody on the panel acussed the anti-undocumented immigrant crowd of being racists. Even Enrique Morones (who is oftentimes labeled as a "brown supremacist" by folks in the Minutemen crowd) acknowledges that many people who are involved in anti-immigrant activism are not necessarily them seves racists but he does try to show how the policies they advocate effect immigrants their families and society at large.

[crazycoolone]

I think that this was a good debate, but I saw a definite imbalance in the two sides. The side that opposed the illegal immigration (undoc. workers) didn't strike me as racists people, but made clear, defined arguments of why the US should not allow undoc workers in. The other side was far less specific and depended on emotional arguments to hold weight. If I could work in England being a US citizen & get paid in British pounds, I'd buy my ticket YESTERDAY! It's all about economics!!!

[JeremysVideos]

I disagree with your assesment. The pro-immigrant side made clear that they're not in favor of illegal immigration but specific policy changes to allow a fair amount of LEGAL immigration and allowing honest hard working immigrants who are already here the chance to establish themselves legally. Many on the right who want to deny most or all undocumented immigrants this opportunity don't like to highlight is that they are for reduced immigration *period*. Vernon Briggs was less shy about that...

[JeremysVideos]

"Nobody on the panel acussed the

anti-undocumented immigrant crowd of being racists"

I meant to say that nobody on the panel (or in these comments) accused the

anti-undocumented immigrant panalists of being racists. It seemed to me that you'd implied that someone had.

[crazycoolone]

Look dude... calm down will ya? I help undocumented people find work & make sure they are fed...

As far as I'm concerned people are people.

My problem is that they SEEM to ALWAYS show Mexicans as the ONLY undocumented workers in the US when they CLEARLY are NOT; I know Canadians, Australians, Spaniards, and Brits who have student Visas that have LONG expired yet are still in the US.

I LOVE GOOD people. The spin is wrong.

[GunnySgtHartman]

Morones is against the Bracero program. So the guy to his right is in conflict with his views. Morones has critizised the Bracero program on his radio show.