A person's attitude at the traffic stop is not relevant! Did they break a law? NO. Then making ANY comment about the attitude of the victim being extorted for a victimless "crime" is yet another crime perpetrated by the corrupt pigs and their satanic priests in the black robes!
@aflowerispower Isn't that the truth. I used to make fun of Barney Fife but he had more ethics. He wouldn't even search someones suite case without cause and warrant.
I love how passive all you worthless males are in your comments, this gives feminists reason to celebrate!!
It's my conclusion that the "American Male" has successfully been stripped of his "manhood" and men's ability to destroy oppressive police thuggery has diminished to the point that the "male-threat" is no more nuisance than a mouse.
This is a key indicator, women are indeed winning the war on "masculinity," the dumbing-down, softening and emasculation of men is almost complete.
They could use any kinds of markings on the tickets to convey a message to the judge. I f they get stopped from using the faces they'll probably just use other symbols maybe a strategically placed dot or dash somewhere, as corrupt as it is I don't no how it could be stopped.
We are supposed to have access to all the evidence to be used against us in any court.
Even that little drawing would count as evidence that we should be able to see.
It has been a very long time since I was in a traffic court but I will be sure to keep this in mind. Then again I would always try and be as respectful as possible even if the officer was not being respectful to me.
SMILE and take whatever on the side of the road and deal with it later.
But.. one moment.... How can the Cop are the only bad in this case ? Judges are aldo Very Bad. Remember the first woman who lose the case even with evidences? The Judge rules in favor of the cop base in "the back of the tickect and not in the evidences". That make the Judge part of the MAFIA. Please people, try to see the Big Picture.. The System is only one Big illution to make every body think that we have a Judiciary System. when in the reality.. We have a Legal System base in a Police State.
This is all racket, absolutely illegal practice in admiralty courts that are supposed to be by law only for commercial separate from traveling public. This is another form of illegal taxation. Fighting the ticket on the merrits will fail 99.9 %. People, study and challenge the accusations by using your irrevocable constitutional right to travel - it's complex but you can effectively fight this horrible rip-off by the state (whose employees judges are, BTW - conflict of interest!!!!
@Sahadi420 That's right. Be a good little fascist Nazi and never question authority. By the way, there's no proven correlation between bad attitude and guilt.
@ldchappell1 WTF are you babbling about?? What does being respectful to a cop have to do w/questioning authority?!?!? Coming from a guy that has had TWO DUI's thrown out of court, as well several traffic tickets, I'd say I question authority pretty fucking well. Your right about your correlation, but being an asshole to a guy that has the power (whether you like it or not) to write you a ticket, let you go, or cut you some slack, is just plain stupid.
@ldchappell1 If it makes you feel any better I can't fucking stand NC state troopers. They're the most useless, over the top, waste of money cops out there. But when I got pulled for my DUI (that got thrown out) was I a prick to the trooper? Absolutely not. When I went to court, and pleaded my case, and the judge threw out my case, I let her know that this whole thing was crap, respectfully of course. She said she agreed, and I said the next time this happened I would counter sue the trooper.
@ldchappell1 For making false accusations. I reminded her this was the second time I've had a bogus DUI charge put on me. She said "I understand Mr. Sahadi, you're free to go and have a nice afternoon." I said thank you, and walked out. Guess what, I run a bar, and drive a lot late at night, and for some reason I haven't had a cop on my ass ONCE since my court date. That was over 3 years ago. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.
@Sahadi420 There is a line between questioning authority and just being disrespectful. Some cops think ANY kind of questioning is disrespectful which is why this "smiley" face nonsense is total crap. It's the officer's attempt at extending his power into the courtroom. The judge should decide based on the facts at hand, not whether or not you were having a "smiley" day. I'm glad you were able to win your case.
@ldchappell1 Trust me, I'm glad too. But I always remember being in court and hearing the judge ask the cop about the demeanor of other people in court. "polite and cooperative" was usually what the cop would say. I just don't think a smiley face is "secret code" for the courts. Cops have to make notes for themselves when they do go to court, they can't remember everything for months. It's not like they're writing some crazy unheardoff code, its a simple smiley face, or frown.
@ldchappell1, if you tell the truth there is nothing to remember, you only need to remember what you said if you were lying. That problem is what gets the liers caught in the end because no one has that good a memory.
@DauTieng59 what are you talking about?? What does writing yourself a note have to do with lying?? I'm assuming your talking about the cop. You do realize it could be months before the cop is asked about the ticket he issued.
@Sahadi420 , that's why cops are issued notebooks to make their notes in. What happens when a citizen doodles on a government form just to signal the recipient?
@ldchappell1 And I must say, I don't totally agree with "There is a line between questioning authority and just being disrespectful." When the trooper pulled me over for my DUI, asked me to perform some sobriety tests (which I fucking NAILED FLAWLESSLY) and then decided to arrest me, I wanted to rip his fucking throat out (still do). But did I ever raise my voice, or become volatile?? No. I let him do his thing, while being respectful, and then shredded his ass in court. That's how you do it.
THis is how they will catorgize us so that they know who will succumb easily to the States power and those who are more resistful...They will place all of us more restiful into a special catagory so they can scurge us and whip us into submission..." For they will bring you before the counsils and the magistrates and will scourge you in front of the public for my name sakes..But see to is that you dont worry about what you shall say to them in that day I the Lord will give you the words to say"
Notice how they continued doing it untill they get caught? Then tthey(the judges) suddenly realize its wrong and promise to stop.The cops we already know will do anything they can to attain absolute power,but the judges should be ashamed.
Uh being irate about a ticket isn't a crime, your attitude is not punishable under the law. This is not primary school...we don't get frowny faces or behavior reports to our parents anymore...this is by far the most blatant abuse of the legal system and hilariously pointless practice I have ever seen in law enforcement.
uhm, if your unable to politely dispute a ticket to an officer in a calm manner....you deserve the ticket, oh boohoo i got a ticket, now imma be an ass to the cop.
Bottom line, learn how to disagree and be professional. Arguing with the cop is not the thing to do. Just say I disagree officer and nothing else. Then tell your arguement to the judge. Another idea would be not to break the law.
@brittboyer1 "Not to break the law?" Maybe the state legistlatures should be resolving problems to make people's lives better instead of passing oppressive laws designed and intended to rob people of their hard earned money which is then used to incease police powers so they can hire more equipment with to empower their oppressors and more . The public is forced to finance their own oppression.
@Wildcat5181 if no one broke the law, the police would be out of a job. try that, instead of whining and crying. You want to see true oppression go to africa, argentina or afghanistan, or somewhere besides YT and the internet.
@brittboyer1 if no one broke the law the cops would have to make up the scenario and arrest people for their story of fiction.
Also for those saying the cop was just making his/her notes, that's why they have note books issued to them. No need to mess up the form. What does the government do if you doodle on their forms?
Please watch my story "TIFFANY LEBOUEF SEEKS JUSTICE" They hid my only evidence and lied about it then they made me "TAKE THE DEAL" or go to Prison for 9 + yrs. This is crazy shit. They have given me 2 strikes and one more brush with the law of any kind will send me to "PRISON FOR LIFE"..... HELP MEEEEEEEE
@gettinitgood69able1 Ten years ago people speaking out against the cops would have been unthinkable. We have always told that cops are bad in third world countries, but the truth of the matter is that we already live in a third world country and just don't know it. that's why they love the laws against taping cops. You might catch then in a condition that might allow you to sue them.
Nice Tele Sync. And this has nothing to with legal matters. Citizens are required to have a copy of any information related to the case. It is LAW. All parties are required to have a copy of all evidence of any case.
The saying goes something like this, if you don't like it here then leave? But these are the same morons that will be crying when they are in the other side of the shoes.
Hold off on doing a ruling until everyone's forgotten about the issue!.. Just like legislators!
Any notes should be considered evidence and should be disclosed to all parties involved!
I do believe withholding evidence is still illegal in the United States isn't it?
You think you'll get a fair trial in America? Think again! Your case is probably going to be presented to a judge that has already been predisposed to the case and their decision made before the trial even begins!
IF judges are using this to aid in determining sentencing, it is a flagrant disregard for due process. But since you have the right to see the ticket in court, you have the right to view both sides of the ticket.(Its already admitted into evidence anyways.) And IF due process is not being observed by the court and/or the police officer, you should be able to have the case dismissed on those grounds. Remember, you arent getting the ticket because of your mood..,or theirs! ;)
Cops can write that the person was being uncooperative on the ticket.. If you are an asshole to a cop you will get treated the same. Thats why you dont be an asshole! ITS SIMPLE!
It is Unethical. If the notes were visible to the persons who received the summons then it would be acceptable. To the judge who would not dismiss this case.... if law were lawless, you'd be slain by any number of people whom you really jerked around.... especially in a city....
too late - the money has been suck out of the people's pocket - and to the jive ass officer in court, the people who you shit on could be related to you, slave.........
So much for fair and impartial justice. If this sort of thing is occurring at the low level of traffic court, what does that mean for cases where the stakes are much higher, for instance, where a person's freedom or life is on the line? This is disgusting. There should be a serious investigation into this perversion of the justice system. This is an improper communication with the judge and the judge's use looks like a violation of Rule 3.4(a) of the Model Rules of Professional Conduct.
I went to city jail for some bs tickets I would not sign. I sat there for an entire week before they took me in front of the judge, which is in the same building. When asked by the judge I said "Not Guilty". They put me back in jail for another week and took me to the judge a sceond time. When asked I said "Not Guilty". They put me back in jail again for another week before taking me to the judge. When asked I said "Guilty". They told me "no time served, go arrange for payment". WTF???
"it's not good, we shouldn't be doing it." Really? How about It's illegal! When was it a crime to be not happy about getting a bogus ticket? Not to mention when was it a lawful procedure to put happy faces and stars any where outside of an elementary school? I hate to admit it but my 6th grade teacher got the last laugh!
That's not a legitimate excuse. Maybe uncooperative but not what you said. I don't know where you were going with that. Complaint is negative feedback. Abusive is taking advantage of a situation. That's technically the reason why officers pull drivers over in the first place. Because they are about to do those things.
@badpanda84 - Well then, offer the abuse or lack of compliance as evidence, so both parties will have the opportunity to explain or refute it, if it's even relevant to the charge. Don't hide the fact from the accused as that deprives them of his or her right to a fair trial. This is an abusive of the justice system, such instances have the effect of seriously undermining people's faith in the legitimacy of the system. There is no excuse. This is completely unprofessional.
@badpanda84 - I think that you are attributing too much intelligence to the kind of police that would agree to violate the constitutional rights of citizens in this manner. The fact that they had to use smiley faces or frowning faces is probably a product of necessity because it was the most complicated code that they were able to impart to the degenerates that they had hired to enforce traffic laws in that jurisdiction. However, you are absolutely correct it could have been more stealthy.
"The fact that they had to use smiley faces or frowning faces is probably a product of necessity because it was the most complicated code that they were able to impart "
Or maybe it simply was not intented to be a secert code at all -- after all its no secert what a frowning face means
@badpanda84 - Except doesn't it say that the frown was not contained on the copy given to the ticketed driver, only on the carbon copy that was retained by the police officer and then handed over to the judge. Therefore, it would have been a secret to the individual charged. Maybe it's no secret to system insiders but it is fundamentally unfair and amounts to unprofessional conduct by those who have been entrusted to carry out justice in that jurisdiction.
@thetruthisoutthere32 So if the cops wrote in the police report -- which the ticketed driver dosent get..-- defendant showed a bad attutude --- would that have been any diffrenent
@badpanda84 - No, it wouldn't be any different. It would still be a piece of evidence offered against them without their knowledge or ability to refute. It's misleading, prejudicial and violates the Sixth Amendment's Confrontation Clause. It's fundamentally unfair and a Due Process violation as well. It's the bastardization of the justice system at such a low-level that one must begin to question the entire scheme, especially when judges are shown to be complicit. in this kind of card stacking.
@badpanda84 - I wouldn't go that far because it's quite possible to have a secret code that would be visible to the accused in the sense that the piece of evidence was made available to them prior to court, but still remained invisible or at least indiscernible to them because of its hidden and cryptic nature. The behavior of a person in court has no bearing upon a person's behavior at the time the ticket was issued, which is the fact at issue in the case. You'd be making a propensity inference.
@badpanda84 - If that's all that is necessary in the first place why bother putting a frown on the ticket in the first place? To turn your argument around, why not just wait until that person shows up in court and base the discretionary ruling concerning the fine solely upon one's demeanor in court? A defendant has the right to be presented with the evidence against them and to build a case to refute that evidence. Why is that so difficult to understand? It's a main pillar of our legal system.
@thetruthisoutthere32 Also cops have been doing this for years-- its also a known fact that if you get a yellow sticker ( for a defect) if the cops place the sticker crooked it means you were being an asshole
@badpanda84 - In addition, I am quite sure that they are using secret codes and secret surveillance on people all the time and in ways that have far wider reaching implications when it comes to constitutional violations than this simple traffic court case. There are heuristic attempts to catalog, segregate, and control people in many different ways, by various agencies, for a multitude of reasons. It's an absolute disgrace but those responsible remain free to increasingly abuse this power.
I find the idea of using a secret code on a ticket that goes directly to a judge in court to be very dishonest. The judges are also invoved in this practice, it's not just the police.
If the police officer wants to comment on your "attitude" then be honest and open about it. Don't use a secret code. Write it out on the copy given to the person. That allows you to challenge that information in traffic court.
the whole thing is a scam, Tickets=taxes next time you get a ticket ask the shit judge these three questions, 1 your honor will i receive a fair trial? the shit ass will say "YES" 2 your honor will i receive a fair trial if there is a conflict if interest? the shit ass will say "NO" then ask the shit ass who he or she represents.. the shit ass will say the state your in then look at your paper work yourstate VS you how is that NOT a conflict ??? man what a joke..
@badpanda84 It's not about knowing the code. The defendants did not have a copy of the notes with the smile or frown on it; it was only in the court's file. This was improper ex parte communications, and it should be reported to the State Bar.
@penisinzipper " The defendants did not have a copy of the notes with the smile or frown on it; "
but they know either way.. if its going to court its going to have a frown on it.. everyone knows that.. you dont have to be a genius to figure that out.
The only one that have a smile are the people who complied and didnt go to court
OH NO! COPS ARE DRAWING FACES ON TICKETS! Paranoid fucks. Why shouldn't the judge know if you had a bad attitude? They need all the information they can get. Years and years go by and the media still doesn't know what a GOOD story is. This is just trash.
@krackhed999 Because they are not telling the people who have been issued the ticket about the information. ALL information is supposed to be shared among ALL parties. The prosecution may not have private meetings with judges, and leave the defense out of the conversation. The defense is supposed to have all of the information that the prosecution provides, and the prosecution is supposed to have all the information that the defense provides. The smileys are a violation.
The smileys boil down to this... the police are alleging something, and you are not allowed to argue against it. The officer alleges that you were rude, but provides no proof, and you are never allowed to say that officer isn't telling the truth or even attempt to explain your side of the story.
The judge would react very differently if someone were to say "I'm sorry you're honour. I was being rude, as my wife filed for divorce a week prior to my being pulled over and given a ticket".
@elfwall If a judge reacted differently to an explanation like that, the judge needs to be replaced. Police are just doing their jobs when they pull you over and write you a ticket. If you are rude to a police officer because of some personal problem, you need to learn how to control your emotional display. When I go to work, I don't look angry or sad. I don't show frustration with annoying customers. I don't get testy with coworkers. Why? Because I know how to be professional. That's all.
@krackhed999 Are you speaking to the people being pulled over, or the officers? I agree you that people should be professional and respectful despite what's going on in their lives. Unfortunately the reality is that neither group is able to do it. Both officers, and the public, occasionally bring their personal issues to the surface during interactions. That does not excuse the officers, judges, and prosecutions ignorance of very simply laws.
@elfwall Is there even a law that states smileys can't be written on tickets? I understand that officers should be professional as well, but the general idea that is if you give the officer a hard time, it should be noted regardless of whether or not the ticket receiver is aware. I believe that it is more of a fault on the judge's behalf for not bringing it up during the court session. Although, I also believe it still shouldn't require an explanation from the receiver.
@krackhed999 Because it's innocent until proven guilty, you should be convicted or found innocent based on yoru evidence not on your attitude. A police officer is a public servant, a civilian. He's no different than a person driving a car and you can say whatever you want to him provided you're not threatening him or anyone else. Saying fuck you to a cop is not illegal.
@theninja368 Saying "fuck you" to a cop is disrespectful and you deserve what you get for doing it. Cops aren't civilians when in uniform. They're cops. It's like saying soldiers are civilians. No, not when they're in uniform. By your standards, a soldier is just another "public servant", too. You can use whatever terminology you like, but the fact is, these people put their lives on the line for us every day and deserve as much respect as any soldier in the military, any government official.
@krackhed999 I beg to differ with you. A cop is not in the military or a soldier. Even in uniform, he is a "CIVILIAN" period! Someone gave you bad information.
cops are private contractors, not government officials so they have no authority unless you give it to them (consent by signing the ticket). do your research yourself! A corporation [corps, dead] can only exist by your time,labor and energy, you give your consent or give up your rights by your signature. they are operating under the U.C.C. [uniform commercial code].which govern the law of the water, therefore they have no Jurisdiction over you or subject matter unless you give it.
FOLKS, ITS A DECEPTION!!! They [the media] are trying to divert you from whats really going on in court!! turn off your T.V. because you won't get the truth from the news videos like this because it's all controlled, its time to wake up! in order for a charge to be a crime there has to be a damaged party or damaged property period!! If its a civil matter,it must be a contract that you've signed, in the case its the "Ticket". The ticket is a contract, no contract, no case!
Whore judge probably fucking the cops. All thick as thieves. Destroy the judges life. Follow them get pictures of them breaking the law and build a case. DESTROY THEM.
MAKE WEED LEGAL SINCE THE PRESIDENT IS A POT HEAD!! CIA helper Bobby Titcomb is his "alleged" dealer. Obama admits heavy pot and cocaine use. Bobby got kicked out of their pricey private High School.Conveniently, Bobby's dad went from city attorney to judge.
THE FED GOVT HAS THEIR OWN MEDICAL MARIJUANA PATIENTS THEY SEND OVER 300 ROLLED FATTIES TO MONTHLY FOR OVER 34 YEARS!
The DEA says Marijuana is so deadly it's listed as Schedule 1. (no currently accepted medical use) Organized crime!
if you like this, look up tacit admissions.. or "silence means consent" which means your right against being forced to witness against your self/ self incrimination is a myth.
I bet the heart of those judges started pounding in their throats. Fear of losing their jobs. But like all criminals, stick together and keep your mouth shut and it will all go away.
when you go to court you should get a copy of the ticket with the drawing on it in your disclosure...still most people wouldnt know what that means i guess
A person's attitude at the traffic stop is not relevant! Did they break a law? NO. Then making ANY comment about the attitude of the victim being extorted for a victimless "crime" is yet another crime perpetrated by the corrupt pigs and their satanic priests in the black robes!
FTP!
Copsarescum 4 days ago
lol the secret codes are smiley and unhappy faces... sounds about right for a cop's iq.
aflowerispower 5 days ago 4
@aflowerispower Isn't that the truth. I used to make fun of Barney Fife but he had more ethics. He wouldn't even search someones suite case without cause and warrant.
DrBlueBronco 1 day ago
"HE WASNT HAPPY GETTING A TICKET"... Really ? No Shit Sherlock...
MrRoxxstar 6 days ago 4
Bloody criminals!!!!!
goldeneaglewarrior1 6 days ago
Cops lie!
JanRichardus 1 week ago
Always fight your ticket, show up in court and say your piece!
JanRichardus 1 week ago
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@Sahadi420
I love how passive all you worthless males are in your comments, this gives feminists reason to celebrate!!
It's my conclusion that the "American Male" has successfully been stripped of his "manhood" and men's ability to destroy oppressive police thuggery has diminished to the point that the "male-threat" is no more nuisance than a mouse.
This is a key indicator, women are indeed winning the war on "masculinity," the dumbing-down, softening and emasculation of men is almost complete.
HardlineFeminist 1 week ago
police have become so powerful and ignorant that they are now treating white people like they black people...this is an outrage
HOMEnHIGH 1 week ago
cops are only doing there job !
E208System 1 week ago
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Judges can be reported too. Keep that in mind.
xWindShadowMothx 1 week ago
The on;y people more dishonest than the mob are the cops. And some judges.
getplaning 1 week ago
Of course no one gets in trouble. Fuck that female judge. She acts like she has no idea about the faces. Thats bullshit. Another crooked judge.
chris784100 1 week ago
They could use any kinds of markings on the tickets to convey a message to the judge. I f they get stopped from using the faces they'll probably just use other symbols maybe a strategically placed dot or dash somewhere, as corrupt as it is I don't no how it could be stopped.
imnotabotrlyimnot 1 week ago
We are supposed to have access to all the evidence to be used against us in any court.
Even that little drawing would count as evidence that we should be able to see.
It has been a very long time since I was in a traffic court but I will be sure to keep this in mind. Then again I would always try and be as respectful as possible even if the officer was not being respectful to me.
SMILE and take whatever on the side of the road and deal with it later.
Record everything if at all possible.
LAPTOPLIZARD 1 week ago
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there is no law in this world,only the rich and the poor,and cops are just the goon squad.
wavular 1 week ago
there is no law in this world,only the rich and the poor,and cops are just the goon squad.
wavular 1 week ago
But.. one moment.... How can the Cop are the only bad in this case ? Judges are aldo Very Bad. Remember the first woman who lose the case even with evidences? The Judge rules in favor of the cop base in "the back of the tickect and not in the evidences". That make the Judge part of the MAFIA. Please people, try to see the Big Picture.. The System is only one Big illution to make every body think that we have a Judiciary System. when in the reality.. We have a Legal System base in a Police State.
ELMATRACA69 2 weeks ago
WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLY EMMEFINATE "JUSTICE" SYSTEM
postpile 2 weeks ago
This is all racket, absolutely illegal practice in admiralty courts that are supposed to be by law only for commercial separate from traveling public. This is another form of illegal taxation. Fighting the ticket on the merrits will fail 99.9 %. People, study and challenge the accusations by using your irrevocable constitutional right to travel - it's complex but you can effectively fight this horrible rip-off by the state (whose employees judges are, BTW - conflict of interest!!!!
micanut48 2 weeks ago
Its called taking notes..if you are an azz, you will be remembered..."secret ticket talk"...REALLY????
imakawboy 2 weeks ago
American justice at its best.
MsSashus 2 weeks ago
here's a crazy idea..........don't be a fucking douche bag prick to the cop and you'll get a smiley face!!!
Sahadi420 2 weeks ago
@Sahadi420 That's right. Be a good little fascist Nazi and never question authority. By the way, there's no proven correlation between bad attitude and guilt.
ldchappell1 1 week ago
@ldchappell1 WTF are you babbling about?? What does being respectful to a cop have to do w/questioning authority?!?!? Coming from a guy that has had TWO DUI's thrown out of court, as well several traffic tickets, I'd say I question authority pretty fucking well. Your right about your correlation, but being an asshole to a guy that has the power (whether you like it or not) to write you a ticket, let you go, or cut you some slack, is just plain stupid.
Sahadi420 1 week ago
@ldchappell1 If it makes you feel any better I can't fucking stand NC state troopers. They're the most useless, over the top, waste of money cops out there. But when I got pulled for my DUI (that got thrown out) was I a prick to the trooper? Absolutely not. When I went to court, and pleaded my case, and the judge threw out my case, I let her know that this whole thing was crap, respectfully of course. She said she agreed, and I said the next time this happened I would counter sue the trooper.
Sahadi420 1 week ago
@ldchappell1 For making false accusations. I reminded her this was the second time I've had a bogus DUI charge put on me. She said "I understand Mr. Sahadi, you're free to go and have a nice afternoon." I said thank you, and walked out. Guess what, I run a bar, and drive a lot late at night, and for some reason I haven't had a cop on my ass ONCE since my court date. That was over 3 years ago. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.
Sahadi420 1 week ago
@Sahadi420 There is a line between questioning authority and just being disrespectful. Some cops think ANY kind of questioning is disrespectful which is why this "smiley" face nonsense is total crap. It's the officer's attempt at extending his power into the courtroom. The judge should decide based on the facts at hand, not whether or not you were having a "smiley" day. I'm glad you were able to win your case.
ldchappell1 1 week ago
@ldchappell1 Trust me, I'm glad too. But I always remember being in court and hearing the judge ask the cop about the demeanor of other people in court. "polite and cooperative" was usually what the cop would say. I just don't think a smiley face is "secret code" for the courts. Cops have to make notes for themselves when they do go to court, they can't remember everything for months. It's not like they're writing some crazy unheardoff code, its a simple smiley face, or frown.
Sahadi420 1 week ago
@ldchappell1, if you tell the truth there is nothing to remember, you only need to remember what you said if you were lying. That problem is what gets the liers caught in the end because no one has that good a memory.
DauTieng59 4 days ago
@DauTieng59 what are you talking about?? What does writing yourself a note have to do with lying?? I'm assuming your talking about the cop. You do realize it could be months before the cop is asked about the ticket he issued.
Sahadi420 4 days ago
@Sahadi420 , that's why cops are issued notebooks to make their notes in. What happens when a citizen doodles on a government form just to signal the recipient?
DauTieng59 4 days ago
@ldchappell1 And I must say, I don't totally agree with "There is a line between questioning authority and just being disrespectful." When the trooper pulled me over for my DUI, asked me to perform some sobriety tests (which I fucking NAILED FLAWLESSLY) and then decided to arrest me, I wanted to rip his fucking throat out (still do). But did I ever raise my voice, or become volatile?? No. I let him do his thing, while being respectful, and then shredded his ass in court. That's how you do it.
Sahadi420 1 week ago
@ldchappell1 Bottom line......BE NICE, no matter how fucked up, or unfair the pig, I mean cop, is being.
Sahadi420 1 week ago
@newmedic - The problem is that when they use the symbols they do not disclose it to the victim.
themedia 2 weeks ago
look for the letters "BA" on the corners or back of the tickets as well. it stands for Bad Attitude
jerobinson30 2 weeks ago
99% of judges should be kicked out of courts and of that 99%, most of them should go to jail and some should even endure the death penalty.
dlstb 2 weeks ago
I like how it ends on 420! : }
kingdobbs1 2 weeks ago
this is a geat idea
ALMartinez5 3 weeks ago
There are no problems with this. The judge can ask the cop about their behavior anyway, and it's just a reminder to the cop.
newmedic 3 weeks ago
always carry a video camera police pull you over for fun and hide behind their uniform make lies about you to
james7167 3 weeks ago
One word,"disclosure" A very usefull rule.
dphye 3 weeks ago
Ummmmm,... were the cops and magistrates and judges arrested for fraud !!!!! ? What the fuck is up with this fucking cunt-ry nowadays !?
laztek1 3 weeks ago
Nice cashmere sweater judge.
bjfdog 3 weeks ago
THis is how they will catorgize us so that they know who will succumb easily to the States power and those who are more resistful...They will place all of us more restiful into a special catagory so they can scurge us and whip us into submission..." For they will bring you before the counsils and the magistrates and will scourge you in front of the public for my name sakes..But see to is that you dont worry about what you shall say to them in that day I the Lord will give you the words to say"
SBFHawk1 3 weeks ago
Notice how they continued doing it untill they get caught? Then tthey(the judges) suddenly realize its wrong and promise to stop.The cops we already know will do anything they can to attain absolute power,but the judges should be ashamed.
stevekon11 3 weeks ago
STRAIGHT SCUMMMMMMMM
MrAnthonyML 3 weeks ago
Uh being irate about a ticket isn't a crime, your attitude is not punishable under the law. This is not primary school...we don't get frowny faces or behavior reports to our parents anymore...this is by far the most blatant abuse of the legal system and hilariously pointless practice I have ever seen in law enforcement.
aenn13 4 weeks ago
@aenn13 <---great comment on the "smiley" face tickets.
ldchappell1 1 week ago
The judges who has presided over cases with such tickets should be fired!!!!
arpus9091 1 month ago 2
uhm, if your unable to politely dispute a ticket to an officer in a calm manner....you deserve the ticket, oh boohoo i got a ticket, now imma be an ass to the cop.
You people deserve to be double fined.
xeronicus 1 month ago
Bottom line, learn how to disagree and be professional. Arguing with the cop is not the thing to do. Just say I disagree officer and nothing else. Then tell your arguement to the judge. Another idea would be not to break the law.
brittboyer1 1 month ago
@brittboyer1 "Not to break the law?" Maybe the state legistlatures should be resolving problems to make people's lives better instead of passing oppressive laws designed and intended to rob people of their hard earned money which is then used to incease police powers so they can hire more equipment with to empower their oppressors and more . The public is forced to finance their own oppression.
Wildcat5181 4 weeks ago
@Wildcat5181 if no one broke the law, the police would be out of a job. try that, instead of whining and crying. You want to see true oppression go to africa, argentina or afghanistan, or somewhere besides YT and the internet.
brittboyer1 3 weeks ago
@brittboyer1 if no one broke the law the cops would have to make up the scenario and arrest people for their story of fiction.
Also for those saying the cop was just making his/her notes, that's why they have note books issued to them. No need to mess up the form. What does the government do if you doodle on their forms?
DauTieng59 4 days ago
Dont act like a dick and you might get hooked up. We need more codes.
wbttk 1 month ago
Traffic cops are the SCUM of the earth, enemy of the State. Everyone of them put down is a small triumph for humanity. The judges aren't much better.
MrComingtogetyouable 1 month ago 2
FRESNO COUNTY SURPERIOR COURT PUTS THE WORD "DUMMY" ON THE FILE OF WORKING IMMIGRANTS WITH VISAS AND SENDING THEM TO PRISON.................
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joanarc1111 1 month ago
cops are turning on the people.....everyone needs to wake up
gettinitgood69able1 1 month ago 9
@gettinitgood69able1 Ten years ago people speaking out against the cops would have been unthinkable. We have always told that cops are bad in third world countries, but the truth of the matter is that we already live in a third world country and just don't know it. that's why they love the laws against taping cops. You might catch then in a condition that might allow you to sue them.
rosey312 1 month ago
Presumed innocent untill proven guilty? Well.....
MegaSpitz13 1 month ago
The judge plays dumb. You do some "research".
stackmasters1 1 month ago
Nice Tele Sync. And this has nothing to with legal matters. Citizens are required to have a copy of any information related to the case. It is LAW. All parties are required to have a copy of all evidence of any case.
ChiefLeftenant 1 month ago
So cops don't have to be professional or courteous but we do? They are the ones getting payed to behave this way not us.
Pooshooter5k 1 month ago 8
And they are so good at telling the world how " JUSTICE" is so right in America.
forexmarketz 2 months ago 3
The saying goes something like this, if you don't like it here then leave? But these are the same morons that will be crying when they are in the other side of the shoes.
forexmarketz 2 months ago
@forexmarketz Down with freedom! Sieg Heil!!!!
davelovelady 1 month ago
when it became illegal to be angry at a law enforcement official?
JavierSoriano1 2 months ago
filmed with a hersheys speacial dark bar
mumbleye 2 months ago
Punk ass cops.
Floridaprepper 2 months ago
WITH HOLDING EVIDENCE IS CAUSE FOR DISMISSAL Ô¿Ô
ACEOO8 2 months ago
Hold off on doing a ruling until everyone's forgotten about the issue!.. Just like legislators!
Any notes should be considered evidence and should be disclosed to all parties involved!
I do believe withholding evidence is still illegal in the United States isn't it?
You think you'll get a fair trial in America? Think again! Your case is probably going to be presented to a judge that has already been predisposed to the case and their decision made before the trial even begins!
MrDontuo 2 months ago
So we are supposed to take her word for it that she didnt havea bad attitude with the cop? Im not jusitfying this im just saying
flute1234 2 months ago
@flute1234 Is a crime or illegal to have "bad attitude" with a law enforcement official?
JavierSoriano1 2 months ago
@JavierSoriano1 No being aggressive and combative with him is. It's called disorderly conduct.
ChiefLeftenant 1 month ago
Criminals (judges) helping criminals (cops) to keep criminals (both) unchallengeable and immune. Nothing new here. Business as usual.
AdamShumpisxXx 2 months ago
What happened to "discovery"
marksrig 2 months ago
IF judges are using this to aid in determining sentencing, it is a flagrant disregard for due process. But since you have the right to see the ticket in court, you have the right to view both sides of the ticket.(Its already admitted into evidence anyways.) And IF due process is not being observed by the court and/or the police officer, you should be able to have the case dismissed on those grounds. Remember, you arent getting the ticket because of your mood..,or theirs! ;)
ChemicalMikeUK 2 months ago
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mji4040 2 months ago
Cops can write that the person was being uncooperative on the ticket.. If you are an asshole to a cop you will get treated the same. Thats why you dont be an asshole! ITS SIMPLE!
Caleb12top 2 months ago
It is Unethical. If the notes were visible to the persons who received the summons then it would be acceptable. To the judge who would not dismiss this case.... if law were lawless, you'd be slain by any number of people whom you really jerked around.... especially in a city....
Flayprime 2 months ago
Paid off judges in link with the police chiefs - ya think?!!
musicalidea 3 months ago
NO wonder there is no respect for the Law anymore!
MrTraceMan 3 months ago
The justice system in america is a scam.
cory41287 3 months ago
Wow what bullshit not that I'm surprised.... Cops suck...
ogrebattle22763 3 months ago
too late - the money has been suck out of the people's pocket - and to the jive ass officer in court, the people who you shit on could be related to you, slave.........
dolamich 3 months ago
So much for fair and impartial justice. If this sort of thing is occurring at the low level of traffic court, what does that mean for cases where the stakes are much higher, for instance, where a person's freedom or life is on the line? This is disgusting. There should be a serious investigation into this perversion of the justice system. This is an improper communication with the judge and the judge's use looks like a violation of Rule 3.4(a) of the Model Rules of Professional Conduct.
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cops should fucking die
MrMatt29999 3 months ago
nwo..
denny6041972000 3 months ago
Traffic cops are worthless human beings.
rhoads83j 3 months ago 41
@rhoads83j How much was your ticket? I feel your pain though, traffic rules are so hard to follow, kind of like treating people with respect.
smokewagon47 3 months ago
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rhoads83j 3 months ago
@smokewagon47 Traffic cops don't deserve people's respect. They all have a quota, and they'll do anything to meet it.
rhoads83j 3 months ago
@rhoads83j youre right! they dont actually produce anything
RGdood 2 months ago
The magistrate states she's gonna do "research" into this issue, as if she didn't know about this to start with.
So she's saying she's seen these "faces" drawn on the back of the ticket for years now and has NEVER known what it was for?
Whatever.
This clearly illustrates the dishonesty of cops and JUDGES to imply they didn't know about it or that it was okay to even do this shit.
Lyin' ass motherfuckers.
bastardson78 3 months ago 2
I went to city jail for some bs tickets I would not sign. I sat there for an entire week before they took me in front of the judge, which is in the same building. When asked by the judge I said "Not Guilty". They put me back in jail for another week and took me to the judge a sceond time. When asked I said "Not Guilty". They put me back in jail again for another week before taking me to the judge. When asked I said "Guilty". They told me "no time served, go arrange for payment". WTF???
Lintpocket 3 months ago
"it's not good, we shouldn't be doing it." Really? How about It's illegal! When was it a crime to be not happy about getting a bogus ticket? Not to mention when was it a lawful procedure to put happy faces and stars any where outside of an elementary school? I hate to admit it but my 6th grade teacher got the last laugh!
vilane421 3 months ago
@vilane421 "How about It's illegal! When was it a crime to be not happy about getting a bogus ticket?"
There is a diffrence between not being happy about getting a ticket and being abusive or not compliant.
badpanda84 3 months ago
@badpanda84
That's not a legitimate excuse. Maybe uncooperative but not what you said. I don't know where you were going with that. Complaint is negative feedback. Abusive is taking advantage of a situation. That's technically the reason why officers pull drivers over in the first place. Because they are about to do those things.
vilane421 3 months ago
@badpanda84 - Well then, offer the abuse or lack of compliance as evidence, so both parties will have the opportunity to explain or refute it, if it's even relevant to the charge. Don't hide the fact from the accused as that deprives them of his or her right to a fair trial. This is an abusive of the justice system, such instances have the effect of seriously undermining people's faith in the legitimacy of the system. There is no excuse. This is completely unprofessional.
thetruthisoutthere32 3 months ago
@thetruthisoutthere32 If the cops wanted to delibrately use a secert code they could have made it alot less obvious --( so you would never know)
But I would be extermely surprised if any of the cases that went to court had a smiley face..
badpanda84 3 months ago
@badpanda84 - I think that you are attributing too much intelligence to the kind of police that would agree to violate the constitutional rights of citizens in this manner. The fact that they had to use smiley faces or frowning faces is probably a product of necessity because it was the most complicated code that they were able to impart to the degenerates that they had hired to enforce traffic laws in that jurisdiction. However, you are absolutely correct it could have been more stealthy.
thetruthisoutthere32 3 months ago
@thetruthisoutthere32
"The fact that they had to use smiley faces or frowning faces is probably a product of necessity because it was the most complicated code that they were able to impart "
Or maybe it simply was not intented to be a secert code at all -- after all its no secert what a frowning face means
badpanda84 3 months ago
@badpanda84 - Except doesn't it say that the frown was not contained on the copy given to the ticketed driver, only on the carbon copy that was retained by the police officer and then handed over to the judge. Therefore, it would have been a secret to the individual charged. Maybe it's no secret to system insiders but it is fundamentally unfair and amounts to unprofessional conduct by those who have been entrusted to carry out justice in that jurisdiction.
thetruthisoutthere32 3 months ago
@thetruthisoutthere32 So if the cops wrote in the police report -- which the ticketed driver dosent get..-- defendant showed a bad attutude --- would that have been any diffrenent
badpanda84 3 months ago
@badpanda84 - No, it wouldn't be any different. It would still be a piece of evidence offered against them without their knowledge or ability to refute. It's misleading, prejudicial and violates the Sixth Amendment's Confrontation Clause. It's fundamentally unfair and a Due Process violation as well. It's the bastardization of the justice system at such a low-level that one must begin to question the entire scheme, especially when judges are shown to be complicit. in this kind of card stacking.
thetruthisoutthere32 3 months ago
@thetruthisoutthere32 So techincally this dosent have anything to do with a 'secert code"
" It would still be a piece of evidence offered against them without their knowledge or ability to refute"
Actually it is easy to refute -- simply by there behaviour in court.. I
badpanda84 3 months ago
@badpanda84 - I wouldn't go that far because it's quite possible to have a secret code that would be visible to the accused in the sense that the piece of evidence was made available to them prior to court, but still remained invisible or at least indiscernible to them because of its hidden and cryptic nature. The behavior of a person in court has no bearing upon a person's behavior at the time the ticket was issued, which is the fact at issue in the case. You'd be making a propensity inference.
thetruthisoutthere32 3 months ago
@badpanda84 - If that's all that is necessary in the first place why bother putting a frown on the ticket in the first place? To turn your argument around, why not just wait until that person shows up in court and base the discretionary ruling concerning the fine solely upon one's demeanor in court? A defendant has the right to be presented with the evidence against them and to build a case to refute that evidence. Why is that so difficult to understand? It's a main pillar of our legal system.
thetruthisoutthere32 3 months ago
@thetruthisoutthere32 Also cops have been doing this for years-- its also a known fact that if you get a yellow sticker ( for a defect) if the cops place the sticker crooked it means you were being an asshole
badpanda84 3 months ago
@badpanda84 - And how does that makes it constitutional?
thetruthisoutthere32 3 months ago
@thetruthisoutthere32 - *make*
thetruthisoutthere32 3 months ago
@thetruthisoutthere32 Who cares if its constututional -- cops really dont give a shit about the constution --I'm just saying that is what they do --
badpanda84 3 months ago
@badpanda84 - I care and police who take an oath to uphold the law should too.
thetruthisoutthere32 3 months ago
@badpanda84 - In addition, I am quite sure that they are using secret codes and secret surveillance on people all the time and in ways that have far wider reaching implications when it comes to constitutional violations than this simple traffic court case. There are heuristic attempts to catalog, segregate, and control people in many different ways, by various agencies, for a multitude of reasons. It's an absolute disgrace but those responsible remain free to increasingly abuse this power.
thetruthisoutthere32 3 months ago
Welcome to the new world order.
darthspeaks 4 months ago 38
@darthspeaks this shit is happening more and more and it pisses me the fuck off
brnikko 2 months ago
@darthspeaks nwo is the truth
brnikko 2 months ago
haha this is to funny!! imagine all the things they do that we dont know!!
is it just me or am i the only one that doesnt feel "protected" when a cop is behind me...
ZomBeatz13 4 months ago
I find the idea of using a secret code on a ticket that goes directly to a judge in court to be very dishonest. The judges are also invoved in this practice, it's not just the police.
If the police officer wants to comment on your "attitude" then be honest and open about it. Don't use a secret code. Write it out on the copy given to the person. That allows you to challenge that information in traffic court.
kupigana 4 months ago
pieces of shii in that broward county courthouse
javoneybaby 4 months ago
YEA SO THEY COMUP WHIT OTHER WAYS SINCE "FACES" ARE NOT ALLOWED....FAIL!
saprofagus 4 months ago
All female judge's yes all female judges are superficial twats from hell.
Garrnett1 4 months ago
@Garrnett1 Women should never be judges,god wants it that way.
WestcoastMusicals 3 months ago
Lord, please protect me from those who are supposed to protect me.
mrzeegrr 4 months ago
the whole thing is a scam, Tickets=taxes next time you get a ticket ask the shit judge these three questions, 1 your honor will i receive a fair trial? the shit ass will say "YES" 2 your honor will i receive a fair trial if there is a conflict if interest? the shit ass will say "NO" then ask the shit ass who he or she represents.. the shit ass will say the state your in then look at your paper work yourstate VS you how is that NOT a conflict ??? man what a joke..
2worldwidevideos 4 months ago
This has alway been the case.. for instance if you get a "yellow sticker" for a defective car - and it is crooked that means you were being a jerk
badpanda84 4 months ago
LOL I think everyone knows the code --
If someone is being a jerk to the cops they know about it... and I'm sure everyone know what a smiley face means and what a frowny face means
badpanda84 4 months ago
@badpanda84 It's not about knowing the code. The defendants did not have a copy of the notes with the smile or frown on it; it was only in the court's file. This was improper ex parte communications, and it should be reported to the State Bar.
penisinzipper 4 months ago
@penisinzipper " The defendants did not have a copy of the notes with the smile or frown on it; "
but they know either way.. if its going to court its going to have a frown on it.. everyone knows that.. you dont have to be a genius to figure that out.
The only one that have a smile are the people who complied and didnt go to court
badpanda84 4 months ago
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badpanda84 4 months ago
this will never stop
ryanandres19862hotma 4 months ago
act like a dick, get treated like a dick. pretty simple life-lesson in general.
AssistingHealth 4 months ago
This makes me sad...
delta86bravo 4 months ago
OH NO! COPS ARE DRAWING FACES ON TICKETS! Paranoid fucks. Why shouldn't the judge know if you had a bad attitude? They need all the information they can get. Years and years go by and the media still doesn't know what a GOOD story is. This is just trash.
krackhed999 4 months ago
@krackhed999 Because they are not telling the people who have been issued the ticket about the information. ALL information is supposed to be shared among ALL parties. The prosecution may not have private meetings with judges, and leave the defense out of the conversation. The defense is supposed to have all of the information that the prosecution provides, and the prosecution is supposed to have all the information that the defense provides. The smileys are a violation.
elfwall 4 months ago
The smileys boil down to this... the police are alleging something, and you are not allowed to argue against it. The officer alleges that you were rude, but provides no proof, and you are never allowed to say that officer isn't telling the truth or even attempt to explain your side of the story.
The judge would react very differently if someone were to say "I'm sorry you're honour. I was being rude, as my wife filed for divorce a week prior to my being pulled over and given a ticket".
elfwall 4 months ago
@elfwall If a judge reacted differently to an explanation like that, the judge needs to be replaced. Police are just doing their jobs when they pull you over and write you a ticket. If you are rude to a police officer because of some personal problem, you need to learn how to control your emotional display. When I go to work, I don't look angry or sad. I don't show frustration with annoying customers. I don't get testy with coworkers. Why? Because I know how to be professional. That's all.
krackhed999 4 months ago
@krackhed999 Are you speaking to the people being pulled over, or the officers? I agree you that people should be professional and respectful despite what's going on in their lives. Unfortunately the reality is that neither group is able to do it. Both officers, and the public, occasionally bring their personal issues to the surface during interactions. That does not excuse the officers, judges, and prosecutions ignorance of very simply laws.
elfwall 4 months ago
@elfwall Is there even a law that states smileys can't be written on tickets? I understand that officers should be professional as well, but the general idea that is if you give the officer a hard time, it should be noted regardless of whether or not the ticket receiver is aware. I believe that it is more of a fault on the judge's behalf for not bringing it up during the court session. Although, I also believe it still shouldn't require an explanation from the receiver.
krackhed999 4 months ago
@krackhed999 The point is, you should be made aware of that fact. They're doing it in privacy, this is wrong!
buddybleau 4 months ago
@krackhed999 Because it's innocent until proven guilty, you should be convicted or found innocent based on yoru evidence not on your attitude. A police officer is a public servant, a civilian. He's no different than a person driving a car and you can say whatever you want to him provided you're not threatening him or anyone else. Saying fuck you to a cop is not illegal.
theninja368 4 months ago
@theninja368 Saying "fuck you" to a cop is disrespectful and you deserve what you get for doing it. Cops aren't civilians when in uniform. They're cops. It's like saying soldiers are civilians. No, not when they're in uniform. By your standards, a soldier is just another "public servant", too. You can use whatever terminology you like, but the fact is, these people put their lives on the line for us every day and deserve as much respect as any soldier in the military, any government official.
krackhed999 4 months ago
@krackhed999 I beg to differ with you. A cop is not in the military or a soldier. Even in uniform, he is a "CIVILIAN" period! Someone gave you bad information.
buddybleau 4 months ago
Cry babies....
designwebs 4 months ago
cops are private contractors, not government officials so they have no authority unless you give it to them (consent by signing the ticket). do your research yourself! A corporation [corps, dead] can only exist by your time,labor and energy, you give your consent or give up your rights by your signature. they are operating under the U.C.C. [uniform commercial code].which govern the law of the water, therefore they have no Jurisdiction over you or subject matter unless you give it.
adsperfgent87 4 months ago
@adsperfgent87 "cops are private contractors, not government officials so they have no authority unless you give it to them "
WRONG -- security guards and boucners are private contractors..
badpanda84 4 months ago
FOLKS, ITS A DECEPTION!!! They [the media] are trying to divert you from whats really going on in court!! turn off your T.V. because you won't get the truth from the news videos like this because it's all controlled, its time to wake up! in order for a charge to be a crime there has to be a damaged party or damaged property period!! If its a civil matter,it must be a contract that you've signed, in the case its the "Ticket". The ticket is a contract, no contract, no case!
adsperfgent87 4 months ago
@sNfb5Tbqqkp7rTmg LMAO ... Right. I am suprised they are not writing tickets in crayon... Roflmao
lastpatriot4America 4 months ago
Whore judge probably fucking the cops. All thick as thieves. Destroy the judges life. Follow them get pictures of them breaking the law and build a case. DESTROY THEM.
lastpatriot4America 4 months ago
very dishonest people.very sad.there should be no tickets ..
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letstalkaboutstuff 5 months ago
ID HATE TO BE AN AMERICAN ITS A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY NO ONE CAN AFFORD TO GO TO HOSPITAL ONLY POLITICIANS AND RICH
james7167 5 months ago
Law Enforcement by day and Secret Socities by night ! The Govt needs the money $ ! Its about the cash .
GalaticSpaceHero 5 months ago
if you like this, look up tacit admissions.. or "silence means consent" which means your right against being forced to witness against your self/ self incrimination is a myth.
TheBillthethrill 5 months ago
YAY AMERICA IS AWESOME!!!! I LOVE TO BE SCARED AND ALSO PROTECTED AT THE SAME TIME!! SMH
foureleven86 5 months ago 2
it's unfair to have a magistrate judge you. insist on a jury trial.
ddsharper 5 months ago
@ddsharper
some people waive that right
whispers83 5 months ago
So how can we trust these people to correctly JUDGE our fellow citiziens?
The current system is clearly not working but apprently we don't care.
Killuminatyi 5 months ago
I bet the heart of those judges started pounding in their throats. Fear of losing their jobs. But like all criminals, stick together and keep your mouth shut and it will all go away.
edesir 5 months ago
and people think when a cop is charged for something and found not guilty it's in a court that is fare. To many people in usa kissing pigs asses
colelv 5 months ago
You know what, when I drive the speed limit I don't get any symbol on the back of my ticket. Because I don't get a ticket.
See how easy that is?
You should try it sometime.
agent458 5 months ago
when you go to court you should get a copy of the ticket with the drawing on it in your disclosure...still most people wouldnt know what that means i guess
mikec81 5 months ago
That's fine we will just change the code. Hahahaha suck it
408crownvic 6 months ago
@408crownvic
If the law doesn't matter to you, then it shouldn't matter to anyone else. Right?
180DegreeMason 5 months ago
These TV reports that use stupid visual effects and music turn news into silly fluff pieces.
Please stop that.
crispycritterz 6 months ago
So now there's going to be a DIFFERENT secret code.
Mindraker1 6 months ago