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  • Southwest China's Tibet autonomous region will offer pension and medical insurance policies to monks and nuns at all monasteries in the plateau region starting from next year, under a new policy issued here this week.

    All registered clergy aged 18 and over can apply for free for the policies, according to the social security measures.

  • "It's a major approach to improve Tibetan people's livelihood," said Wu Yingjie, deputy secretary of Tibet's regional committee of the Communist Party of China.

    The move is aimed at protecting the rights of monks and nuns by extending public services to their monasteries, he said.

  • "The new measure has removed the household registration barrier, which confined the clergy's access to social security services to their home towns," said Ngawang, a monk at Ganden Monastery near Lhasa.

    Ganden Monastery has more than 300 registered monks, but only the 70 Lhasa residents among them are covered by local social security schemes.

    The rest of the clergy, from other Tibetan communities in the Tibet autonomous region and the neighboring Qinghai and Sichuan provinces,

  • have so far been uncovered by Lhasa's social security services, accessible only to locals, said Ngawang.

    "The new policy will enable all the monks to get pension and medical insurance here in Lhasa," he said.

    According to the new regulations, a monk can pay from 100 to 1,200 yuan a year into his pension fund and get a government subsidy ranging from 30 to 85 yuan a year.

  • After a monk turns 60 and has paid his premium for up to 15 years, he will get 120 yuan a month as a basic pension, plus a monthly return from his account which averages 0.7 percent of its total balance.

    Monks who are already over 60 upon their application will get 120 yuan a monthly as a basic pension income, and will not have to pay their premiums, the document said.

    Meanwhile, a monk can pay 60 yuan a year for his medical insurance and be subsidized 220 yuan by the government,

  • comprised of 160 yuan from Tibet's regional government, 40 yuan from the city or prefecture government, and 20 yuan from the county government.

    Registered monks aged over 65 and nuns over 60 will enjoy medical insurance for free without having to pay a premium.

    Beneficiaries of the medical insurance will get a maximum annual reimbursement of 50,000 yuan per person for their medical expenses.

  • The document said monasteries will get a government subsidy equal to the total insurance premium paid by its clergy during the previous year for encouraging the clergy to join the social security scheme.

    Meanwhile, such bonus subsidies will also be awarded to monasteries and clergy that are honored by the local government for law abidance and patriotism -- including acts to maintain social stability, according to the document.

  • The new measure, set to take effect in January, has received a warm welcome from the clergy at major Tibetan monasteries.

    "It's a blessing for the monks and nuns. Now we don't have to worry about falling ill or getting old," said Ngawang Tongjor at Lhasa's Drepung Monastery.

    The clause about the subsidy bonus is an important stimulus for monasteries and their clergy to abide by law and maintain social stability, said Lhapa, a monk at Jokhang Temple.

  • what a great man

  • LOL oh yeah the Dalai Lama who started a guerilla war against China in the 50s today can't tell the Tibetan youth what to do. Oh how things have changed.

  • @what77777 dont talk about things you dont really know. You should really look into the details before pointing finger at someone. Long live his holiness the 14th dalailama

  • whereas the isssue in tibet itself was something that was unavoidable,for which there was no short term or immediate remedy.time and again if u've followed H.H closely ,he has urged those in tibet not to engage in violence,afterall that is his founding principle!! i'm more than certain that if he could go to tibet there and then to resolve the issue "he would be the first to do so" but the reality is just the adverse.so he is as helpless as those inside tibet.plz my tibetan brothers stay united

  • @dorjeshugden:3rdly:i personally although being a tibetan do not subscribe to any particular sect of tibetan buddhism,i am content with only the philosophy part of any sect.this being said ,i feel the dalailama took care to deal with the dorjee shugden issue first because it was something that was happening before his own eyes,in his own backyard ,something which had the potential of creating a split in the tibetan exile community.and for which he had the power to "resolve the issue immediately

  • @dorjeeshugden: as far as the dorjee shugden case is concerned,the dalailama never said you CANNOT follow/practice it ,afterall was'nt he a practictioner himself? but over the years like any scientist in deep research ,he found some flaws in practicing dorgeeshugden.and simply advised ppl to refrain from it if THEY WISH SO.this however does not mean that he supressed religious freedom! he did what was best for his ppl as would any spiritual tutor.thats all!!

  • @DORGESHUDEN:yes i do agree that HH should send a message to the monks in tibet not to act in such ways.but then again,as much as they are monks ,first n formost they are simple tibetans born of simple upbringing,they have to bare the wrath of the chinese govt.(mind u not chinese ppl)24*7 .so when they see injustice being done to their loved one and fellow tibetans ,obviously they'll feel the need to act,out of frustation n specially so because their hands and feet as well as the mind are tied .

  • The United States government is no better than the Chinese government. Both are corrupted and evil. Sick bastards all of them. Dishonest, immoral but the average citizen is very dumb and very fearful only thinking about himself and that is a great weakness for civilization. Erosion of the human spirit and human potential is what you will see that is all that will be left over after they take over the world,,,wait a min. they already have.

  • If you want to see how UNEDUCATED @NewZealandKillisTibetans is, just read his comments that are written in bad English. For example, "major main reason!' What kind of funny English is that? Dude is a White racist who harvests human organs live in New Zealand.

    FREE New Zealand from harvesting human organs live.

  • Yo Da Lie Lama:

    Just tell the Tibetans to shut the fuck up! You used to tell the Tibetans to shut the fuck up while you were the biggest serfdom master in Tibet, and be sure to tell us how many Tibetans you have killed you old son of a bitch!

    Free to beg!

  • @ TheSaimonfan

    Would you like to tell us about the horrific conditions in the evil Nazi party of china's 900+ Labour Camps aka Concentration Camps in 2011 ???

    .

    FREE Tibet and China from the very EVIL State TERRORIST Nazi party of china

  • FREE the countries of Tibet and China from Concentration Camps in 2011

    FREE the countries of Tibet and China from Concentration Camps in 2011

    FREE the countries of Tibet and China from Concentration Camps in 2011

  • @TheSaImonfan

    Tibet is independent country

    And chinese is invader, chinese should shut up

  • It is Unification Church that made Tibet confused.

    Purple and the pink spirit become internal organs.

  • well said he cant shut up everyone 

  • LONG LIVE THE DALAI LAMA

  • @dorje168 We debated before and I do enjoy intellectual company, even if it is the opposite sides. I once said, we are not here to change or convince each other because we can't. However, I need to respond to your claim we (Chinese CCP) are morons. I will agree Tibet is wrongfully taken over by Mao, but the fact is, you are now under Chinese rule. Since you are now under Chinese rule, here is another fact. China's history reveals that a bad regime will make people uprise and topple it. CONTINUE

  • @dorje168 When Qing was strong and had annexed Xinjiang, Tibet, and Taiwan through force, no one said anything. When Qing was weak, every nation knocked at China's doors to get a piece by asking or by force. So, it turns out that a country's claim to something is only as good as long as they can defend it. The US did it with the Indians, the Mexicans, and Hawaiians just to name a few. So here we are again. You say China is so so bad, then why only the Tibetans are mad? Where is the uprising?

  • @dorje168 Look at hte Arab world of today. The nation and the world are behind them. The government have armies but they can't stop the change of the protesting people. So, if people are so oppressed by the Chinese government, why is there no big uprise? We have a billion+ people so it should be easy! Brainwashed? I am brainwashed, but I am doing quite good. I have properties in China and US, great wife and kids, and I can do whatever I want even though I used to work for CCP. And you?

  • @dorje169 fuck fuck fuck you....dorje169...i mind if you say such things.because black money always flow into your acccount from chinese government...i know what you and your types upto....you will die brutally with blood coming from your eyes,nose,mouth,asshole......i curse you bitch..you know the real truth but money speaks for you... LONG LIVE THE DALAI LAMA for his real pure heart of compassion and love...

  • you really know nothing about tibet.do you think that killing and stopping usage of tibetan language is 'presersed' without knowing the truth better to shut up

    you red china fan thirsty of killing, torturing,kindless do not kill you family i m real doubt about it

  • The CCP Regime has engulfed the entire nation with its doctrine,

    and its propaganda is instilled into the minds of people beginning with elementary school age children.

    Throughout a person’s life social, academic and financial advancement is possible to only those who have absorbed the CCP’s brainwashing fully.

    This is measured by a person’s responses to questions on school and state exams.

  • United States President Barack Obama Tuesday said the US government recognizes that Tibet is part of the People's Republic of China

    "The United States respects the sovereignty and territorial integrity of China," Obama said at a joint press conference.

  • Wu Mao CLONES,

    TIBET is a Holy and blessed Land.

    TIBET is illegally occupied By China.

    TIBET belongs to the Tibetans Buddhists.

    The Tibetans have Tremendous support in the world because the Tibetan Cause is based on

    Truth and Justice.

    The Tibetans will never give up their fight for the Freedom of TIBET!

    Return the right of self-determination to the Tibetans.

    End the suffering of the Tibetan people.

  • @dorje168 Holy is not an argument! Buddhism is always right and justice? Don't make me laugh!!!! Post some facts and not some lame arguments

  • i love h.h .the dalai lama free tibet

  • EXCITING NEWS to shake the world!

    Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen's unmistaken incarnation is BACK IN THE WORLD!

    You thought he was an evil spirit? You thought wrong because he's incarnated back in our world, not in hell as a demon would be.

    see the story on dorjeshugden (d ot) com!

  • Brainwashed WUMAO,

    Tibetans see Hans as intruders threatening their culture and religion and The Tibetans have been treated harshly since the riots. They are living under difficult restraints and many are still waiting to hear from relatives and friends who disappeared after the violence.

    Two years down the line there is still no normality in Tibet. It's still extremely tense, there are a lot of restrictions, surveillance, and a lot of troops.The area is usually off-limits to foreign reporters

  • The famous Chinese Actor Jet Li happens to be a Tibetan Buddhist but Tibetans living under the Dalai Lama however have been stoned and chased out of their homes for practising Dorje Shugden.

  • @dorje168 This tend to happen after tibetan riot killed and beat up innocent people on the street. Savage monks started that shit and now ur blaming the government restraining them?

  • Ignorant Racist Moron,

    The CCP has evolved into the Fascist Corporate State, which was the hallmark of Classic Fascism.

    Fascist CCP is a brutal police state where corruption is pervasive from the bottom to the very top.

    Fascist CCPs main hold on the people now is an appeal to Nationalism and Patriotism

  • I'm ignorant and racist? You are completely ignoring my statements, probably because there all true. Buddhism calls itself peaceful yet you a Buddhist throws all these insults at everybody.

  • Despite fifty years of Chinese occupation and various policies designed to assimilate or sinify Tibetans and to destroy their separate national, cultural and religious identity, the Tibetan people's determination to preserve their heritage and regain their freedom is as strong as ever.

    The situation has led to confrontation inside Tibet and to large scale Chinese propaganda efforts internationally

  • Really? Did you know that Tibetans are taught their language, Chinese Channels play Tibetan Music Videos, you want proof just ask and I'll give you the link. And the one child policy only applies to Han, since they are the largest.

  • Brainwashed Racist Moron,

    The Cultural Revolution was the worst atrocity in the history of mankind.

    What is Unbelievable is the same CCP government is still in Power and still brutalizing and terrorizing people in 2010.

  • Who mentioned the Cultural Revolution? And at least the CPC are not hypocrites. The Dalai Lama practised Dorje Shugden until his 40s, and then banned it, and the ban is still on, the cultural revolution ended decades ago. You have the nerve to call me a moron, even though what your saying is irrelevant, to anything I said.

  • Stupid Brainwashed WUMAO,

    His Holiness the Dalai Lama is Tibet

    China may have stolen the Tibetan Land,

    but Tibetans will always be Tibetans in their hearts.

    China Will NEVER CONQUER the Tibetan people,

    Deep down the Tibetans will never accept Chinese rule. China can pretend that the physical Tibet belongs to them, but spiritually, it is impossible.

    His Holiness the Dalai Lama is Tibet

  • A Dalai Lama that would probably NEVER build railways, schools and hospitals for his people, something the Chinese Government did

  • . Stupid Brainwashed WUMAO,

    Between the 17th century and 1959, the Dalai Lamas were the directors of the Tibetan Government, Since 1959, the Dalai Lama has been president of the Tibetan government-in-exile, or Central Tibetan Administration (CTA).

  • Exactly! He has been the leader of Tibet for 51 years, Chinese and American presidents have 4 year terms and popes have a term of about 20.

  • The Dalai Lama is a fake, he even said to the public that he loves to eat meat

  • Free Tibet so it become a Theocratic Feudalist State!

    Do you really believe that idiotic statement?

    The (horrific tibet serfdom) is a myth used

    to justify China's own violations of human and political rights in Tibet,

    and to counter all international pressure

    on Beijing to review its repressive policies in occupied Tibet

  • A myth? I ask you how many years that fake Dalai Lama has been the head of the Tibetan Government, and now take a look at China's leaders, The Pope and even American presidents, THEY ALL HAVE LIMITED TERMS! While the Dalai Lama must rule until his death. That equates to a autocracy and the Dalai Lama's ironic ban on Dorje Shugden makes it a theocracy too

  • His Holiness The Dalai Lama is concerned about the freedom, peace and happiness of the six million Tibetan people and the future of the most precious, profound culture in the world, which preserves the entire teaching of the Buddha: both the Lesser Vehicle and the Great Vehicle Sutra and Secret Mantra.

    With Faith and Determination TIBET WILL BE FREE!,

  • YEAH Free to live and be a serf to the fake Dalai Lama, free to be killed if you are not Buddhist, free to have your eyes gouged out and have your arm chopped off, free to have your skin and skull used as drums, so many benefits to freedom! Free Tibet so it become a Theocratic Feudalist State!

  • CCP propagandists.

    This is youtube. Not China Daily.

  • Tibetan people are free. The Tibetan culture is preserved in Tibet.

    The real issue is these "exiles" created from DL's failed insurrection 50 years ago. These "exiles" in India are a threat to Tibetans in China's Tibet.

    Their prosperity does NOT lie in the disruption of lives of the 6.5 million Tibetans in Tibet. Terrorism is not the solution, you angry and jealous people in Dharamsala India.

  • @walless999

    The CCP has only restored the superficial elements of culture. Temples have been renovated and turned into tourist resorts .Religious activity in Tibet is restricted

    The CCP has created "patriotic education campaigns" that promote a state sanctioned version of Buddhism.

    Tibetan culture in China is being destroyed.

  • @Varavaken Get a grip. DL the phony is disgusting. He is a self-centered clown. Lap dog of the West --- maybe that's why you love him?

  • Top 5 World Oil Games

    1.Iraq

    2.Iran

    3.Palestine Region

    4.African Horn(save darfur, what a joke)

    5.Antarctica

    other places like syria, kuwait, saudi terrotories, even in canada the oil market is fierce between china and usa as well as many operations already placed in specific regions in every continent.

  • China is the world's craziest country, even Google has left their place, China gives money to North Korea keep being separeted from South Korea, and China is helping N.Korea to get a bomb to throw in Japan.

  • @playboysinistro Yes, thats why your ip is traced to CIA branch in Langley, Virgina.

    Do CIA recruits even require grammer level now?

  • @wisdombeing

    "Modern day need"? "Quick fix"?

    You really sound like a salesman....

  • @Varavaken thank you :)

  • Gaden practised Dorje Shugden and is a Gelugpa monastery. They only stopped practising after the Dalai Lama banned it. Are you saying that Liberation in the Palm of Your hand by Pabongkha Rinpoche is a sectarian text?

  • @wisdombeing

    The majority of the Gelug lamas agree that Pabonkha´s promotion of Dorje Shugden was a mistake. Pabongkha was the founding Lama of Shugden movement. Noone is dismissing P. but his involvement with DS has been questioned. A deity of dubious origin.

  • @Varavaken

    BREAKING NEWS: An angry and visibly intoxicated Dalai Lama was arrested early this morning after assaulting a photographer outside the newly revamped Studio 54 discotheque in Manhattan.

  • ONE CHINA , u dont like it? gtfo

  • the dalai lama is another 1 of america's puppet dictators!

    TELL THE DALAILAMA TO STFU

  • Geshe Thubten Jinpa, who occasionally travels with Dalai Lama is a student of Kyabje Zemey Rinpoche. Why have a translator whose Guru is a Dorje Shugden practitioner?

  • @TheDharmaKnight

    What´s wrong with that? Maybe he´s a good translator.

  • arrgghhh.....been trying to post and kept getting ERROR problem. I'm not enjoying the new youtube!

    anyway, how's our mental state of mind lately? Mine has been flying like a kite lately...the monkey is out lose.

    peace

    DK

  • Cool... wow.. dont come here for a few days and they renovate the place with new curtains and carpet... i like the highest rated comments feature.. very cool.. way to go, youtube!!

  • The Dalai lama is on video saying his teachers were wrong. If he can say his teachers are wrong, then can the Dalai Lama's students say that the Dalai Lama is wrong? Dangerous precedent.

  • @wisdombeing good point. Also, he is saying his gurus are wrong with regards to Dorje Shugden. So that opens a big can of worms. If they can be wrong about this practice, then what makes them "right" or "wrong" about other practices? What is the basis for deciding that what your teachers have taught you is wrong? Very dangerous.

  • @wisdombeing this whole issue is very intriguing because the very basis for "banning" this practice was not really done in accordance to usual monastic code (the vinaya). It was one person saying that "this practice was wrong" and discounting 350 years of practice + thousands of practitioners.

    It brings up a very important question as to what determines whether a practice is "legitimate" or not, and who has the right to decide this...

  • @TheRedNiece What i find more intriguing is that the Dalai Lama has skilfully attacked the Gelugpa's OWN Dharma Protector. If he attacked another Dharma Protector for another lineage, there would be an uproar!! Very very interesting, isn't it.

  • @wisdombeing

    DS is not Tsongkhapas tradition. The Gelug tradition has three Dharma Protectors.

    Pabongkha made him the Gelug protector. He used DS to promote his own sectarian views. Since P. DS is exclusively associated with Gelug sectarianism.

  • @Varavaken Hi varavaken. I don't get it...isn't pabongkha one of the spiritual giants..so to speak? with that, i take it that what he teach is fully acceptable.

  • @TheDharmaKnight

    Pabongkhas sectarianism is not acceptable to non-sectarians.

  • @TheRedNiece

    As long as the practice is allowed you can not claim that it´s a general ban.

    Lay people can practice. Shugden monks can practice in their own monasteries.

  • it cannot be that so many thousands of highly attained lamas and masters who have practised DS were wrong. How is this possible? Many of them are highly reincarnated lamas who have continuously taken rebirth over and over n been recognised by HHDL himself - are we saying therefore that they are all wrong? HHDL himself is wrong for recognising these incarnations?

  • Source from Dharamsala :Dalai Lama kept Julia Roberts,Sharon Stone,Sarah Palin pictures.every morning he took one out for masturbation.

  • Dalai Lama like the old sheepdog ,he is useless to Obama.

  • Dalai Lama like an old sheepdog.wait for order from CIA and get some dogfood as usual.Obama find him too old for everything,can't bite,can't bark.better put him to sleep if he come to white House again.

  • Correct. Now Dalai Lama faces ridicule and accusations left and right for the discrimination and violence that the Shugden ban is causing. It makes him look silly and greedy. Why would he risk losing it all over a deity practice?

  • @vinayaholder interesting points. Surely he can see that in spite of this ban, the practice is getting stronger and stronger all around the world? More and more DS monasteries and centres are flourishing and gaining great support, sponsorship and results. Why is it that the more he bans it, the more the practice flourishes? Or was that his intent to start with!!

  • @vinayaholder There are interesting discussions on the dorjeshugden (dot ) com forum which suggests that dalai lama and DS are actually working hand in hand to bring Dharma & DS practice further into the world. I like this idea v much as you can actually see that happening Dharma is more prominent than ever, and the fastest growing religion. DS also.

    And this theory also promotes mutual respect of both DS & HHDL which is a very beautiful way to practice.

  • It is amazing work for a single man- a monk- a rinpoche - the Dalai Lama to have achieved worldwide recognition as a Buddhist leader. Now, with the Shugden issue, he is willing to risk decades of hard work just to suppress a deity? Hmmmm Is that it?

  • @closerelative not just any deity either but a fully enlightened being to whom the Dalai Lama himself has written a praise (and a beautiful one it is too.. just go to dorjeshugden. com and look under 'prayers). Don't get me wrong, i do respect the Dalai Lama so for him to go on this relentless tirade is illogical. There's also an excellent commentary by one of their writers, TK, there. Take a read - fascinating.

  • No one has been able to rid DS, no matter what pujas they have done. That just goes to show that he is a Buddha.

  • To label DS as a spirit would mean that he had degenerated from a Buddha, which is not true.

  • It's funny how all these protests, demonstrations, debates, forum posting  etc have turned into a tool and made DS famous!

  • Fact: No ritual by any Lama has ever slowed down or stopped Dorje Shugden. Its impossible. There is no other reason for this except that are of the same mind, or Dorje Shugden is an enlightened being.

  • You know its working hand in hand because while HHDL is saying stop... DS is taking it all the negative ness and turning things into positive. I just wish the Tibetan people would only practice what they have preserved.

  • DS will never harm HHDL they are of the same motivation... Compassion. Anything to spread the Dharma far and wide. Even if it looks opposite for now.

  • You know Varavaken, I only hear it from your mouth. Why is it that nobody ever reports on it? Not even the Dalai Lama himself talks about such a campaign. I have seen nothing yet from anybody nor any YouTube video reporting on this. If it was true, wouldn't there be a video to report it? Instead, there are hundreds talking about the injustice done to the Dorje Shugden practitioners in India. So who should I trust? Your word or my own eyes and ears?

  • Good point close relative - i agree that if this campaign of murder and intimidation by shugdenpas existed, we would definitely have heard about it. The Dalai Lama and his supporters would have blasted it all round the net and youtube! It's strange that there are many more reports on the suffering caused to Shugden practitioners. Think!

  • "Nga Lama" (fake kundeling) and a handful of Shugden followers have managed to harm not only the Buddhist teaching. They have also started creating disharmony in the Tibetan community. The Chinese Government exploited the situation by offering them financial resources. Strengthened by Chinese money they have unleashed a campaign of murder and intimidation in the Tibetan community."

    Shugden activists are feared in Dharamsala...

  • No unkind words were ever said against HH DL during all trances taken by the oracle. Dorje Shugden has no intention to harm HH DL. He never has and never will.

  • If you believe HH DL is Avalokiteshvara, trust in him to make the correct decisions. Why did he allow himself all this negative publicity. Does he really want to split the DS practitioners into two camps? Why is he doing this?

  • Dorje Shugden has been practiced for hundreds of years. HHDL himself practiced DS. Many high lamas like H.H. Trijang Rinpoche, 101st Gaden Trisur, Pabongkha Rinpoche practiced DS. Can these lamas all be wrong?

    I do hope that the Tibetan culture will be preserved but more importantly is to hold our vows well that our practice do not degenerate.

  • It is so wonderful to read the comments below. I completely agree: both HHDL and DS are Buddhas and they are here to benefit all sentient beings. As Buddha Shyakamuni taught 84,000 different teachings to reach every level of minds, HHDL and DS are just 2 different methods to achieve the same result during these degenerate times!

    May we focus on pure Dharma practice and not get overwhelmed by worldly matter injected through the DS controversy, so that we gain the merits to see Dharma flourish.

  • @leedhi well said! If we focused on the positive and enlightened aspect of what Dalai Lama teaches us and what Dorje Shugden encourages us to do in our practice, we would go very far in our spiritual journey and gain innumerable benefits.

    Dharma practice begins & ends with our minds and how we react to situations or perceive things. We can choose to see a situation positively or negatively - and the result and benefit we gain from that will correspond accordingly.

  • May HH live long, may HH spread that Dharma in the 10 directions. May Dorje Shugden help clear the path for HH to do his work in this life and all future lives. No matter what is said about him he still continues to support HHDL. That is an enlightened protectors very being!

  • Good thinking zamzam

    I think in the spirit of these Tibetan people, we should learn from them that they do stick through thick and thin with the people/deities that they love.

    I am sure at this moment, they find it hard to abandon HHDL and at the same time hold DS close to heart.

    Let's do the same. There are no sides to take. They both are Buddhas.

  • I do not have the merits to be in the presence of HHDL. I cannot say that I dislike him for proclaiming the ban on DS practice. However, I trust him and dharma protector to see me through this difficult period. I know that this ban is only temporary and I will stick through it and I am sure all DS practitioners are taking this stance of patience and perseverance.

  • perhaps we need to look at other ways of supporting DS practitioners within the Tibetan communities other than to just critique the Dalai Lama. I think by now, it's clear the Dalai Lama won't be lifting the ban - at least not for awhile - and the TGIE are very aggressive in maintaining the ban...

    so let's look at how we can gain favourable support from other parties for DS practitioners instead, show the world how GOOD DS is instead of always just going on about how BAD the DL is.

  • oh let's find more ways to advertise and spread the benefits of DS to the world. HHDL is good but i think the person on the mainstage for now and many years to come should be DS.

    let's do it for the future

  • @harrynephew i like this very much. We should look at the situation more positively - i.e. the positive aspects of DS rather than just the negative aspects of what the Dalai Lama is doing. Hate campaigns, criticism, finger pointing and protesting ONLY does not lend a positive energy to Dharma or practice. We need to strike a balance.

    I recommend going to dorjeshugden (dot ) com and reading all the great information there about DS practice, the lamas and lineage. v beautiful pix too.

  • In fact, we should all peacefully petition the Dalai Lama and the Tibetan government to do something about the Dorje Shugden controversy which is causing so much strife and discord in the Tibetan community

  • Dalai Lama can influence the general Tibetan population to do anything. At his word alone, the entire nation turned against the Dorje Shugden practitioners. So Dalai Lama has the power to do the opposite to restore harmony to the population. Why isnt he doing that?

  • Dorje Shugden helps all living beings. Rely upon him constantly to notice the benefits. Rely upon him sincerely so that the most conducive conditions for our Dharma practice will arise.

  • All Dharma Protectors are compassionate and have wisdom. They are no different from each other in compassion and wisdom. It depends on your own karma how one Dharma Protector will help you.

  • there has been a lot of contradiction (it seems) in what the dalai lama says. how can an incarnation of Avalokiteshvara make these "mistakes" (if that's what they are?).

    DS also makes contradictions when he speaks thru oracles. He says don't criticise DL, but he also supports new DS monasteries like SharGaden (which seems to go "against" DL.

    DS & DL are cancelling each other out by their contradictions... so I'm thinking that it's all leading 2somethin bigger than we can fathom right now...

  • KacheMarp0

    I´m fully aware of that, my friend.

  • Varaken - interesting that the 100th Gaden tripa says that and then the 101st Gaden Tripa, now Gaden Trisur, is willing to give up his place at Gaden Shartse to join Shar Gaden because of his faith in Dorje Shugden.

  • "Gelug Lamas of the past would have taken notice of Shugden if he was really the embodyment of the three refuges. But there is no historical record to show that they took any interest in Shugden. Therefore I can not accept Shugden as the embodyment of the Three Refuges."

    (Late head of the Gelug tradition, HH the 100th Ganden Tripa)

  • @Varavaken I don't think it's good to quote from HH the 100th Ganden Tripa who is infamous for his appearance with controversial Master Loo Sheng-yan. He even sat on the same level as the Master. He was discussed as being a "disgrace" to the Gaden Tripa status. I recently saw the video and confirming it for myself. See this video called: "The 100th Gaden Tripa with controversial Master Loo Sheng-yan together in Kurukule Puja" on Dorjeshugden(dot)com. What a shame!

  • I read before that HH the 100th Gaden Tripa also defamed Pabongkha Rinpoche. Anyone knows anything about this?

    Looks like this Gaden Tripa is really an anti-Shugden person, unlike the 101st Gaden Tripa.

  • Nice video.

    But the comments. Shugden people.

    You are pathetic.

    You´re repeating your stupid phrases over and over again.

    Some Gelugpa practice Shugden, but the majority practice the old tradition of Gelug that is not "revised" by Pabongkha.

  • HHDL is definitely Chenresig, his compassionate works of leading his own people out into exile has been witnessed by the whole world for the last half a century.

    how can one switch of a hand makes things so different now? he can't be poisoned or brainwashed to do something which is opposite of who he is?

    there definitely is a bigger picture

  • @harrynephew bigger is better, and the picture is larger than all of us. What else is there to do except practice. Look at all the peoples reactions, i guess the bigger the ego the bigger the reaction. Its just a big enforcement of the "i" at the end of the day. is it really the ban thats causing soo much trouble or the "i" on the side of both the enforcers and the oppressed. Such is samsaras game.

  • Can Kyabje Trijang RInpoche, Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche, Kyabje Dagom Rinpoche, Kyabje Gangchen Rinpoche, Domo Geshe Rinpoche, Gaden Trisur Lungrik Namgyal, etc etc be all wrong? If they are wrong and practicing wrongly, how come their incarnations keep coming back?

  • Would HH Gaden Trisur lead people down lifetime after lifetime of evil practice. Would HHDL be a buddha if he wanted to look good all the time? Would compassion be in action if not backed up by conviction.

    HHDL will go down in history as the dalai lama that caused soo much suffering, at HHDL own expense the practice of DS rises.

    HH Gaden trisur, defects to Shar Gaden a pro DS monastery.Like the Pope is to Christians, to be wrong is to be sending all practitioners to hell.

  • HH Gaden Trisur has his whole household behind him, supporting the practice. He knows what is right, and what is not. Would he lead the Gelupas to liftime after lifetime of evil practice?

  • If Dorje Shugden is bad then WHY is high ranking Lamas continuing the practise and joining SHAR GADEN??

    WoW! HH Gaden Trisur Rinpoche is making a loud n clear statement to the Tibetan Govt. HH sure has GUTS! N I'm sure the PRC did not pay him to do that! HH is not afraid b'cos Dorje Shugden is not a spirit, comes from a pure lineage, from his guru HH Trijang Rinpoche! This will inspire many more who choses to follow Dorje Shugden n in keeping their Guru samayas.

  • 101st Gaden Tripa has just retired. HH Gaden Trisur Rinpoche (title given after retirement)and his ladrang has left Gaden Shartse Monastery and JOINED SHAR GADEN.

    Read it in the forum at dorjeshugden(dot)com

  • The later Lamas were all direct or indirect disciples of the great Pabongkha Rinpoche and Trijang Rinpoche. The 14th Dalai Lama says that Pabongkha Rinpoche and Trijang Rinpoche were "wrong" to worship Dorje Shugden, but they have been recognized as emanations of Heruka and Amitabha respectively, and were the principal upholders of Je Tsongkhapa's Gelug doctrine in their time; so how can they be wrong?

  • Dorje Shugden has been relied upon by the highest Lamas, who themselves have been recognized as enlightened. These go all the way back to the 5th dalai lama and ngulchu dharmabhadra, to trijang rinpoche, zong rinpoche, tathag rinpoche etc.

    These Lamas themselves have all been recognized as realized, holy beings, with many thousands of Tantric disciples who revered them as living Buddhas.

    dalai Lama can't ask Tibetans to shut up cos he would have to say that to his gurus too!

  • Sooner or later you have to start questioning the dalai lama's sincerity in his quest. He says he only want autonomy but an autonomous tibet would be a part of china yet the dalai lama refuses to acknowledge this so what exactly does his interpretation of automony mean? If he is in fact not seeking independence for tibet than simple acknowledge tibet as a part of china so the negotiation can begin. I smell politics!!!

  • You are very right. HH The Daiai Lama is an emanation of Chenrezig. His compassion is endless in bringing benefit to countless beings... through promoting the Dorje Shugden practice and suffering greatly from critics and those who do not understand. Buddhism is about peace. The Dalai Lama knows what hie is doing. trust him. There is a bigger picture.

  • HH is a skillful all compassionate being to so skillfully popularise DS practise through reverse psychology and taking the huge consequences of being slandered, protested, called names, bring

    to court for a much bigger picture. HH must be a real bodhisattva to allow his name to be tarnish for the sake of dharma. It's bad to slander and cause schism let alone sanghas are doing it, very sad. We should stop.

  • truth1888: I like your points!!

    - if he was really a bad spirit, why doesn't any high Lama just subdue/control him?

    - the ban actually results in more people practising (e.g. throughout China).

    It looks the Dalai Lama has other plans in mind and it is not as simple as just a "ban".

  • The fact that His Holiness The Dalai Lama is such a respected international figure is an unending frustration for the totalitarian regime that occupies Tibet and controls China. 50 years after his exile, His Holiness The Dalai Lama continues, in hearts of the Tibetan people, to symbolize their identity as a people. Their unwavering devotion is a living challenge to the legitimacy of the Chinese occupation

  • he is lair

  • down with the daliar lama millionare monk slave owner of old tibet

  • last year he banned celebration of new year he even now telling people in tibet how to dress and how not.

  • he has causes splitting in his indian tibetan community with his politics. he needs to stop doing this.

  • Dalai Lama does not support religious freedom. He should lift his unreasonable ban on the Dorje Shugden practise. He has done a terrible thing and has caused a schism within the Buddhist community. I pray that he changes his mind and that he gives his people the freedom to worship whichever deity they choose!

  • cnn is bullshit

    he is a disgrace by speaking english and think tibetian will listen to him