Entry #2: "Christian" Liberals on Abortion (Starring Donald Miller & Barack Obama)

[boomac62]

it's a complicated issue. We want bumper sticker solutions to complex issues. Lets show love and compassion to all.

[Bgaing]

Who the hell is to say the mothers life is of more value than the child???

Both are equal.

It is an act of pure selfishness. If the child does not suit you and your lifestyle than give the baby away danm it! Labor is a pain I realize, but hell, for a life I think you can at least do that much.

Try and justify it all you want. I agree, some women are not ready to parent and thats fine. JUST GIVE THE BABY UP THEN. It's just that simple...

[1986hangman]

nonetheless a bright girl. I think that at times this gets out of control like when the Bill Orielly inspired nut shot doctor Tiller in Kansas. Perhaps we should ban women from using IEDs. I dont think that some little girl should or the government should tell a family or women how to plan their family.... I would prefer adoption. my own mother put my older brother up for adoption when he was an infant. I can understand since the kid was sleeping in a box with newspaper. but it shouldnt be ille

[1986hangman]

a controversial issue, but when abortion is illegal women use crude devices such as coathangers to do the same thing which is dangerous to the woman.... I myself am pro life, but i dont think it should be illegal to have an abortion. The government shouldnt have the right to say how families plan .... look at the case of Griswold v Connecticut. It was about birth control... funny how people dont object to never getting people not getting pregnant in the first place. alot of fallacies but

[TheWillOfYahweh]

lol, cute :)

[axkraic]

So what happens when your you have to abort your prenancy because during domestic altercation with a spun out slave, he decides to rape you for season 2 episode 6 of his child porn collection?

[gummiedux]

this is sick........really this is sick..

[lgonzo6]

God Bless this little girl and the people that helped her put this together

[spambo139b]

I feel sorry for her being brainwashed at such a young age, she has just been told what to say, that much is obvious.

[bubthegreat1]

Lolz - sure

[ImCARose]

Great Video Nea! Thanks!

[ReformedEvangelist]

Great little clip! Children are our future!!!

[kevinmc1]

"Organized religion is responsible for the brainwashing of millions of young children too young to know the difference between reality and the fantasies of millions.

[usethisspamname]

It also does not help when you blame the ends, when the means are what needs to be fixed.

Teach humans about their sexuality instead of making them hide from it, and you will be amazed by what people can do with knowledge.

And the answer usually isn't: get knocked up and get an abortion.

[usethisspamname]

I don't mean to be cruel, but child, until you're in an adult relationship, I have no problem being harsh with you.

No matter how intelligent or worldly you are at the age of 11-13, and you are obviously there, intelligence does nothing when the experience is crucial.

You have no idea what it's like to be in a situation where there is no right decision. My advice is to tread lightly, because this issue is not as simple as you play it to be.

[Happypark]

I think what you are saying is ..given that it is easier to ramble on U-Tube about Abortion and Liberal Christians then trying to make a real difference . Young people from my church help a project aimed to help young mothers ( and yes fathers to ) who decided to kept their babies and not abort them. Because they are proving Hope mixed with Christ Love the clinic is growing by word of mouth. If you do love the Lord you will care for his sheep and stop acting like look at me Pharisees

[beforethecurtain]

mrsuper: i think they do understand them, and i think you are speaking beyond your means. they're not making fun of the issues, they are contextualizing them analogously. you'd do well to go back to school.

[Happypark]

The problem is you care more about the unborn child then caring for a child after they are born ...America has one of the highest Abortion rates in the Western world ..As a Christian I support Mothers who want to raise their Children ..both in prayer and with my money . We are judged by our actions not just our prayers

[beforethecurtain]

happypark: you're correct to say that we should care for children outside of the womb as well. but should we not care for them before they're born? as only 1 human being, i can spend my time, when i'm not at school or work, dealing with one of these issues, and hope that others are caring for the other. i think you're asking much from one person to split their time between the two. if someone can do that, great, but if they can't, i'd rather one than none.

[Hakosa]

you should be shot in the face, would be way better if your parents got an abortion

[beforethecurtain]

hakosa: why the anger? do you think peace is important? if so, do you think making comments like this help? what makes abortion morally permissable? is there a difference between freedom and morality? are we free to do things that we ought not?

[ibbetsonusa]

5 stars!!! You may be the smartest 11 year old on the planet!

[neasviaries]

Thanks!! :) Feel free to favorite this one as well. By the way, I can't take too much credit, my brother helped me out a lot on this one. ;)

[Okrutnykarissa]

slavery..... is nothing like abortion silly little mislead girl.

[jdjesusdisciple]

Yeah... abortion would be when the slave-owner comes out and smashes the slaves head against the wall to kill him or when he brings him into the middle of town to hang him. The concept of slavery does fall short of abortion, we'll try to think of more gruesome parallels next time.

[rebebo95]

abortion is murdering innocent, defenseless children. how can you say that it is the right thing to do? you are the one who's mislead. or you're just sick in the head. and slavery is killing innocent defenseless people. it is alike in a sense.

[usethisspamname]

@ rebebo95,

Yea, I'm pretty sure we can all agree that slavery isn't "killing innocent defenseless people."

And when is a fetus not a fetus, but rather a child. What defines being a human being, and not simply a human life.

Could you look at it from a secular, Constitutional standpoint instead of a religious one, because my government doesn't give a fuck what your god thinks, but all citizens are endowed by their creator (mom and dad). The question is, when are they a citizen.

[AGirlNamedWhitey]

Well, I believe that a child is a child as soon as the woman becoms pregnant (hence the saying "with child"). However, even if you think that until a certain point, the child is simply a "human life," consider this. Even if it is only a "human life," the point is it is still living and should not be killed because it is not its fault that it was conceived. There are other options. And keep in mind that you're talking to a little girl, so try to mind your language. It's not necessary.

[usethisspamname]

@ AGirlNamedWhitey,

First things first: If you've got the balls to speak on a subject, I don't give a fuck how old you are, you better be ready to take the rebuttals to your outlandish arguments.

You're right, it's not the child's fault, but it is the parents fault. Because they fucked, they created this form. Technically, they're the creators, and I think all the way up until the child can sustain itself, the creators should have the option to end that shit.

Welcome to the real world.

[AGirlNamedWhitey]

Oh yeah, so a poor, defenseless life should be ended just because the "creators" you speak of want to cover up their little "mishap." I bet you're thankful (or at least happy) that your parents didn't do that to you. I say again: there are other options. Now, I'm not trying to offend anyone. I'm just voicing my opinion. Also, you are so strongly opinionated and sound like you're pretty intelligent. You don't need to stoop to the vulgarity of cursing. But to each his (or her) own I guess.

[AGirlNamedWhitey]

However, I do agree with you on one respect: no matter what age, you have to accept the consequences of the things you say. I just think that if you feel strongly, you should use a stronger word, not a vulgar one. It makes ppl seem less intelligent. But you are your own person.

[JonWhaley]

AWESOME!

The slavery, rape, child porn and incest logic explanations are AWESOME!