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  • google rules!

  • I have a Iphone 3gs and it's working as a charm. Also running flash on it. (frash)

  • how much will a flash game take internet data

  • I have been into open source ever since i learned about computers. Steve Jobs is a genius, he brought the PC to every home. Apple was and is a revolutionary company. But venturing into phones is not their cup of tea. The need to make the Iphone OS open source like the Google Android for the brilliant minds in the world to contribute. Even though Linux lost out in market share to Windows and MacOS, Google Android will not follow suit!

  • Android is a much better OS then iPhone OS. Give it another year or two and people will be like, "You're using an iPhone? What a noob." Android is an easier platform to build on and will be used on other devices as well such as Google TV for example. Those of you using iPhones, continue to enjoy being told how to use the phone you bought within the confines of Apple and the Fuhrer that is Steve Jobs.

    /Rant.

  • @AndroidDP For a company, Google is by far the superior. Since when has Microsoft been so open and let people openly root their phones etc etc. The only grudge Google has had is ROM developers distributing Google Apps with their ROM's...which to be honest is fair enough. M$ don't let you distribute windows do they? The whole industry uses Java as it's standard now, and by allowing most apps to be developed in this language opens up a shit load of potential for the users of Android.

  • People who jail break their iPhone are in for a shock when all they find they can do is install a few more apps. Apple will soon find out that being a dictatorship does not work. Look at Hitler. Google are almost a democratic approach to phones...Who would've thought back when google was just a search engine they'd also turn out to be one of the best phone software manufacterers ? /Rant.

  • what rom is that, the only rom i can find that supports flash is the HTC desire rom, I dont like it, cant wait for cm to get flash

  • yeah..html5 is the future..but how many sites support html5 and how many games can you play on html5....how many sites have a userinterface based of of html5...im currently living in the present..not the future...FLASH ALL THE WAY...

  • @DarknessTM how are you supposed to play most flash games on a touchscreen phone?

  • this is madness! how come its not burning into flames as Steve Jobs predicts! a handheld can not run Flash without self-imploding! THIS VIDEO IS FAKE!

  • Hopefully Verizon gets the iPhone this year but not crossing my fingers. I just hope there's a way to completely disable the lag/spam fest Flash on my Droid will be. Not only will the phone come to a grinding halt but most likely crash even more often than it does now.

    That would be crashing when I open Live Wallpapers, Skype, Mail, the keyboard, Beautiful Widgets and on and on. My iPhone NEVER crashed like this pos Droid.

  • @nellerboy2000

    I had an iPhone 3GS overheat and die on me within 4 months of owning it. Apple was no help and neither was AT&T. My only solution was to buy a new phone, without any discounts because their piece of shit couldn't handle what I was running. I've never had a problem with my Droid and it's overclocked to 1.1GHz. Doesn't crash, runs smooth, TRUE multitasking. Not this crap ass "fast app switching" Apple is FINALLY adding to their phones.

  • You are still a FUCKING IDIOT. I have no intention to even read your "responses" because it would be an absolute waste of my time to do so.

  • However, it is no longer innovative if it refuses to acquiesce or adapt to the relevancy of modern technology and the corresponding demands that consumers place upon that technology. I have read several articles about this, and the vast majority of serious users are in unanimous and cohesive agreement as to this.

  • The fact is that even though Apple is fully capable, and has been for quite some time, of delivering the features that consumers have wanted, they still errantly choose to recurrently DENY consumers those very same features in any possible future device(s). Someone may ask why it is that I even spent hundreds of dollars on any fucking iphones, and I am seriously beginning to question why that is, myself. I thought that the iphone was "innovative" when it first arrived.

  • Even the next alleged iphone is still going to be fucking retarded, regardless of whether or not it has... oooohhh a front-facing cam!!!! This is nothing novel or innovative at all. When I bought the first iphone, I was mystified as to why it had a camera but didn't even have video recording (an elementary feature that cell phones have had for a decade). The same argument applies to basic, rudimentary functions like multi-tasking, categories, etc..

  • The internet is supposed to be about freedom of expression, not some fucking retarded asshole, i.e. Steve dipshit "Jobs," and his myopic disjointed egotism. The guy is a fucking ignorant, idiotic LIAR. The fucker only cares about deceiving would-be consumers into buying his over-priced pieces of shit. There are only two principle reasons as to why anyone even buys that shit in the first place, and they are a) pure hype and b) marketable "form factor."

  • it is better lags rather than no flash at all .

  • how crappy is flash on mobile. This video is the proof. Laggy and slow. And you can make that kind of things at the end of video in html5.

    Go Steve. I support you.

  • @AngelChildxxx You are truly a FUCKING IDIOT. I have two iphones, and now I am seriously beginning to question why I should even buy the next iphone. The fact is that the safari browser FUCKING SUCKS. It can't do anything and is literally a cripped piece of shit. It is beyond obvious that the iphone will never have flash, so therefore it will always FUCKING SUCK in that department. The "appstore" is also fucking retarded, because they censor 99% of all app submissions in the first place.

  • @SatanicaLvx666 oh. The official data are that 90+% of the Apps submitted in the AppStore are approved. These are real datas and not words without any sense like yours. If you don't like iPhone simply don't buy it. There is no problem. I will not buy it if it'll support flash. So I like Apple philosophy on flash and OPEN FORMAT like html5, css3 and javascript. I like safari. But if you don't like there is opera mini. bye bye.

  • @AngelChildxxx

    Nonsense retard

  • looks choppy but cant wait to have it on my Nexus one! :D

  • Just picked up a Nexus one but flash is not preinstalled. How can i install it? do i go have to install it through adobe page??

  • @64z You have to root the phone. Just google Root Nexus one Flash and it will tell you how to do it. i think..

  • please anyone tel me if this phone has a problem with 3g / antenna i really need to know before buying it... please thank u

  • flash on mobile is great.I love Adobe Flash.

  • so does this means that when I buy a new Nexus One, it has already have a flash player 10 inside, or should I still download it?

  • omg cant wait till my droid gets this!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Fuck man, when the hell is this going to be released!?

  • F_L_A_S_H vs A_P_P_L_E = 5 vs 5

  • i love my nexus one! selling my iphone asap on ebay lol ... how do i install flash on it.

  • if this phone can run flash i shall definitely be getting it, i look forward to going on any website i want!

    One question, WHEN will the nexus one have this flash implemented? or does flash work on the phone right now?

  • looks nice

  • I was talking about the Evo 4G starting with the 2nd phrase, sorry for the misunderstanding. Well, would appreciate if you explained it.

  • how can i get flash on my nexus??

  • I want flas now! Wtf! How f*#$ hard is it! They sed first part of the year. We are going in to the 2nd quarter and still no flash!

  • 0:11 11:11!!!!!!

  • There's no point in arguing here. iPhone should call me when it gets a 1Ghz Snapdragon CPU,touch flow,AMOLED display and a HUGE discount. Seriously, I am not against iPhone, but it costs a almost a 1000 euros in my country. I think it's pointless to buy such a phone and I honestly think N1 is worth buying,rather than spending a fortune on an older phone.

  • that's what I THOUGHT but now the evo 4g is coming out! I'M SO CONFUSED!!!!!!

  • @Mbacke1895 well the difference is the 4G ( I admit,it's a pretty big step) but keep in mind that the aspect is different,the phone is BIGGER, the display is larger and it's got some gaming equipment. And, no matter what, new phones will always cover the market, break the news, we can't stop that. Google Nexus today, Evo 4G tomorrow, and in 3 days another phone. You shouldn't count on that to be honest, both phones are awesome imo. You should just follow your heart and choose, ignore the rest..

  • Here's one simple way to quash the comparison.. EVO 4G is a CDMA phone for sprint.. The Nexus is an unlocked GSM phone.. apples and oranges (no pun intended..)

  • The price of an iphone vs. android in europe is a HUGELY valid point--one that certainly should not be overlooked.. If an iphone was $1000 and comparable roid $500/$250.. the choice for most is obvious..

    The iphone is still faster at processing 3D graphics than the N1.. BUT.. half or quarter of the price is a HUGE thing, especially if you're not already using/used to the glory of some of these iphone apps.. My goal is an evo 4G + an ipad then life is perfect.. (in this area at least)

  • @rockbandmidi Good point, but I'd still hit the N1. I'm not really an apple fan (not regarding phones). And, I have to admit, you lost me with the CDMA thingy. Will it be only available on sprint networks?If so, buying it in my country would be pointless..

  • @evildeedz66 I think iPhone value is right. This video demonstrates how laggy and slow is flash on mobile.

  • @AngelChildxxx You are a FUCKING MORON. Who gives a fucking shit if it is "buggy" or "slow?" As far as I can tell, I have not seen one fucking iota of either one of those ridiculous accusations. The point is that a mobile device should have access to ALL online content, regardless of whether or not some douchebag happens to "like" it or not.

  • @SatanicaLvx666 no. mobile devices need to working well and securely. Even Microsoft yesterday said the flash is obsolete and future is html5. Even Microsoft.

  • @evildeedz66 I second that completely. However, I would like to recommend one small caveat to the multitudes of serious users that vehemently despise apple for fucking ruining the potential that the iphone, itouch, and ipad COULD HAVE HAD. That is, if you want to make a fucking difference, STOP BUYING THE PIECES OF SHIT. Or, you may strongly recommend to others to not buy them and explain why.

  • @evildeedz66 Almost a 1000 euros!? Heck, with that money you can get a decent laptop!

  • unless youre gonna show android users how to install, stop teasing

  • task killer makes a big difference....

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  • PS-- if we want to talk about overall quality of HTC handsets.. my HTC hero has paint flaking off the send/end buttons already and my menu button no longer clicks... just mush.. after 4 months of extremely light use(search up the issue.. it's all over the net..) as soon as my replacement comes.. I'm dumping it on ebay and switching back to my mogul.. at least old winmo never pretends to be an iphone.. utilitarianism at its best..

  • @rockbandmidi I really doubt you got your phone without any fabrication problem. If there were so many issues with HTC N1 why would it be so popular around the internet?Yeah I know it's Google brand,but still, they wouldn't count on and underrated phone, because if they did so they would've messed up their reputation. So, you should send it to some service or get it replaced,seriously, I don't think everyone will have your issues in 4 months of use :)

  • actually if you search around the net, the buttons are wearing off everybodies HTC hero from sprint.. I was able to cajole them into replacing mine (first one they sent was WORSE than this one..) finally got a brand new one... it's going on ebay, switching back to my mogul. Low build quality.. but hey, a hero is only $80 at best buy with contract, and the best sprint (currently) offers..

  • 1 more thing, for anyone who says I dont want flash, you are 1 retarded faggot that need to commit suicide as soon as possible. Thanks, enjoy the rest of the day, we have great temperature!

  • @ExclusiveGslick I don't want flash.. neither, apparently, does one of the leading security experts in the world Charlie Miller , who won the pwn2own for the last 2 year running.. "the main thing (about internet security).. is to not install flash.." From gods mouth man-- if you can say you know more than he about internet security, maybe you should enter the pwn2own... Try noscript in firefox, gives java and flash on demand ONLY.. HUGE timesaver..

  • @rockbandmidi Listen I-troll, flash delivers more than 80% of all videos, do you have a pc or mac? I've been around pcs since i was 11, now im 24, i've always used flash on my pcs, guess what? Without anti virus nor anti spyware, of course if you get the best part of the internet (FLASH) you are bound to come across risks but this is mainly if you are a moron. Which in this case you obviously are, you are saying you dont flash, reality is, you can't have flash, so you are in denial. Freedom ftw

  • @ExclusiveGslick no more feeding you troll, i'll be enjoying true web surfing soon while i pay for half your monthly bill, and steve slaver owner will tell you, sorry, if anything that's amazing releasing soon, you are not going to have it. I'm sure you are used to that, first opera, then flash, then anything that's good, it gets taken away from you. Slower, smaller screen, not as thin, not as clear, not as free, no better quality in pics or vids, not as high resolution, just stfu troll

  • @ExclusiveGslick I use my sprint HTC hero to serve up internet via WIFI to my dualing iphones.. our plan works out to $50 per handset(5) for balls to the wall unlimited everything-- What are you going to run the thing on tmobile? ATT? (that's funny) Good luck gettign 1/10th of the high speed internet I enjoy everywhere.. PS--you mean steve balmer, right?? LOL..anyhoo /watch?v=GYqZK25KU3U watch the iphone 3gs outperform N1 in 3D graphics.. I'm selling my android, going back to my mogul...

  • I think we'd all be happy as pie to have a nice, solidly built, cozy comfy curved flip phone.. if it had a built in wifi router to send internets to our favored devices. FYI though, 3D graphics could support things like augmented reality apps, navigation, chat w/ avatars, etc.. etc..

    $275 paypal confirmed address to buy the hero and it's yours.. (about the value of my 3 year old first gen iphone on ebay..) LOL

  • oh i see what you did here its sarcasm, how clever. And what exactly are you implying by saying that the Hero costs as much as your 3 year old iphone...since when is that a bad thing? Now if after 3 years the hero costs 50 then you have a point just because they released it at this price doesnt prove any point. But no thanks on the offer ill pass im not spending 275 on a crappy phone that underperforms next to a 3 year old phone...

  • @d1mitrov I see you removed your comment..(good idea) but will reply anyway.. The hero has a 'list' price of $499 or $599 before "discounts" (all marketing bullshit..) My $600 mogul, just about 3 years old.. is worth about $50-$75. So yes, resale value is a benchmark for the quality and desirability of a product. Listen, I'm an uber-gadget-geek.. i want android to blow the balls off of iphone--it just doesn't yet.. tout flash when you've actually got it.. that's all this is about..

  • i removed it because i think its pointless to argue about this. it all comes down to opinion. in my opinion the nexus one is a more useful device than the iphone. to u its the other way around.

  • @d1mitrov by basic you mean limiting???

  • @ExclusiveGslick Anytime some little dweeb starts losing themselves in the facts.. they start calling troll-- ever noticed that? I was born into the age of the PC.. trs80, vic20, atariXL, apple2, PCXT/AT/386/486. I have 3 PC's and a mac sitting in front of me, two iphones, and HTC hero, AND an old palm tungsten W i use for midi stuff. Name calling is the first and last resort a GENIUNE troll uses when losing any debate. PS I also own adobe CS4--and STILL WAITING for promises from adobe.

  • cool as fuck just like a computer

  • when is flash being released!?

  • @MagicSmarties Never as far as anyone can tell.. This is so far the best demo--not another demo of 'aliens attack' thank god.

  • steve blowjobs and all their iphone fanboys can take the iShit and shove it up their iAsses

  • @TwilightNX hahahaha

  • @TwilightNX

    FLASH = FAIL

    Crashes.

    youtube . com/watch?v=3hqFTx8rLsg

    Apple only put on the iphone, Things with HIGH QUALITY.

    Sorry for my bad english.

  • @TwilightNX I could'nt say it better myself :D

  • @TwilightNX

    and then they got irapedXD?

  • @TwilightNX

    with a username like that, i wouldnt be talking shit about anything. dont get me wrong, i have a mytouch 3g slide and i love it, apple and htc both make great products.

  • How is the battery life on the nexus?

  • @truedominicanstar Battery life is amazing coming from a g1 to a nexus one, but after I rooted and got my overclocker from the market, battery life is a beast like the rest of the phone.

    Only flaw of this phone is the screen = it gets more finger prints than a CSI show, if you get any shield such as bestskinsever or invisible shield, you now have the best overall rounded phone in the US.

  • jaja why are u still talking about the iphone after 3 years ? haha envy the phone i think web os is th best out of all

  • 80% of all videos rendered online = Flash.

    even without flash nexus one destroys iphone but with it, its just not worth comparing any longer.

  • @ExclusiveGslick Does that figure factor in that youtube (for both iphone AND android) is actually not flash but h.264? Can youtube really only account for 20% of web video? The video you REALLY want to see(on both iphone AND android) can be found on lubetube ;) check it out you'll thank me.. PS-- to all of the android users watching this vid in HQ h.264 on their phones--you can also thank steve jobs for keeping flash off the iphone..(but we LOVE choppy pixelated video with poorly synced audio)

  • @rockbandmidi you are a smart man ! I agree 100%, go to my channel and check out my rooted nexus one vid bro

    Comment rate + subscribe while you there!

  • Sniff it's so beautiful to have flash. I'm sure all iPhone boys are kicking themselves right now for NOT HAVING FLASH. YOU IPHONE OWNERS SHOULD THANK STEVE JOBS FOR NOT HAVING FLASH.

  • @genestarwindjf80 we have every day for the last 3 years bro! LOL...What was your mobile web experience 2-3 years ago.. It took adobe THIS LONG (from the release of the g1) to FINALLY have a phone that could be afforded (at $600) with a processor and memory combo that wouldn't choke immediately on it's bloat.. Denying reality is just plain sad.. THANKS STEVE! (not just for inventing personal computers with woz and changing our lives in the 70's, but also for reinventing mobile in 2007)

  • steeve jobbs does not plan on making flash for the iphone or ipad. He claims it is a memory hog (isnt everything apple a memory hog) and drains battery. he wants the new standard to be a quicktime codec.

    Its just an excuse.

  • @paintballgundown8 He wants the standard to be HTML5 which is open source. Which is a good thing but he really just wants adobe to go away. He basically says that it will take HTML5, 5 years to get to where flash is now lol. So buy the iphone and ipad now get quality internet in 5 years hahahaha

  • @desurgeon well im hoping that opera mini can make its way into the app store

    It will do all of the coding or whatever on servers so your phone dosent do all the work and it delevers the page much faster. This works around the fact apple wont allow 3rd party code to run on the ipod/iphone so hopefully it will be allowed and we will have an even beter browser. Because all i want is a fast browser and when i click on a video, not to be exited out of the browser just to go into youtube

  • @paintballgundown8 actually apple is afraid that people will use free flash games/apps and, and app purchases will decrease...

  • @paintballgundown8 HTML5 BITHCES. FLASH SUCKS and CRASHES. EVEN IN IT"S DEMO ON ANDROID BY THE DEVS.

  • @Ryguy1450 i dont care if it crashes, I still want the option to use it, even if a popup saying "flash may crash if you choose to use it" Nothing bothers me more that that little blue box when browsing on my ipod

  • Yep Steve Jobs where the iphone flash. No flash - no iphone.

  • Flash on the Nexus One is making me drool!

    montage here: watch?v=aTZaIrZLDp0

  • iDont do flash

    droid does

    take that steve jobs

  • @Robindahoodz you fail to miss that it actually reads like this "iDon't WANT flash" but droid doesn't.. not yet at least.. when you get it, see it, watch your battery, experience the lockups (all the things keeping it from being released before the N1 and droid shipped) THEN let's hear about it..

  • I dont know about the nexus one but there is a video out there featuring the nexus one watching a 17 min youtube video and the battery didnt go all the way down, about 6% drained on a 17min youtube video.

    The droid however has a dedicated graphics processor which (when used by flash on the browser) will probably only take up as much battery as it does when playing a 3d graphical game.

    I've done my research. all thats left is to try it out on both the droid and N1

  • @Robindahoodz That's because the android youtube app uses the h.264 delivery system developed for.. yep.. you guess it.. iphone.. h.264 codec is backed by hardware decoding--thus all of the stress is taken off the battery chewing CPU..

    N1 is FAR FAR FAR superior to droid.. but, n1 is GSM (tmobile/att) and droid is CDMA (verizon only, unless you buy one grey market, not sure if they cracked the provisioning menu on these yet or not..)

  • i tried the droid doesnt compare to N1 the processor is not nearly as fast apps dont open as fast internet is slower on wifi hell the N1 looks so much better. i have the N1 updates will come out to fix battery problems me personally battery isnt an issue you have to get the app called app killer so that they wont stay up its just like a laptop the more you have open at a time the quicker the battery dies.

  • HTC Desire is coming to UK in April with flash 10.1 enabled. Having the same specs of N1, Desire gets better with HTC SENSE UI and some really cool features at browser.

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  • on the droid, now, please!!!!!!

  • man makes me feel bad i just bought an iphone 3gs and didnt know about this now im unhappy

  • hm,return it?

  • @inan819 I'll buy your 3gs show us some pics.

  • steve jobs should really push iphone 4g before translate it as "Bitch"

  • need... update... NOW

  • Awesome video. I see why flash is a big deal. Im still learning about it. This takes the Nexus One to a whole new level...

  • can't iphone do this? i'm buying nexus one but, can't iphone do this?

  • iphone cant do that

  • @nicho2306 the iPhone can not run flash. Apple says that is due to development issues with Adobe, but I suspect they don't want people buying apps outside the app-store.

  • @lasertuber is there a flash app store for the android I missed somewhere?

  • @rockbandmidi good point, but there wouldn't need to be a centralized 'store' for 3rd party apps on 'open' platforms. That's a big part of what 'open' means. In any case, I plan to swtich from the iPhone after my contract is up. Its great, but i'd rather be on a more powerful and open platform.

  • @lasertuber you check out your friends' 'roid phone first.. " and the app store is the greatest thing ever invented for app devs.. That's why windows7 will have one, why android has the "marketplace" and why palm has one as well..

    The real point is that there is no way to MONETIZE random flash games on the net.. sponsors aren't paying for views any more, they want CLICKS backed by BUYS..

    PS--how open is the PSP? DS? Xbox? You must be licensed to dev for them..ANYONE can dev for ipod.

  • @rockbandmidi Aren't 'droid users allowed to install non-registered apps? My point is that the jailbroken iPhone has many more applications than the regular iPhone. The iPhone SDK requires a (licensed) Mac and OS, correct? That doesn't sound very open to me. As a software developer, I want to be able to put programs on my device without Apple's review or approval.

  • the nexus has much better specs,much better, almost 2 times better in hardware

  • @drinkbudyXD My uncle has a tractor with 1200HP but my minivan is more maneuverable, comfortable, sleeker to look at, and simply faster to operate. (killer apps too..)

  • No, the iphone does not support flash. It does play some flash videos in it's player such as youtube videos. But flash on websites does not work.

  • @krunkjunk nope--no flash AT ALL.. none, youtube is h.264 on iphone (and android..)

  • You're right for right now but if you use the HTC desire rom you can use flash normally.

  • Bring the full web to smartphone. yes its 2010 already....

  • haha my video had to buffer so i thought it was the nexus lol

  • Yes all the porn you can WATCH . ^_^

  • This video might as well have been titled "Suck it iPhone!"

  • yeah yeah blah blah all these advance features and still no basic animated GIF capability...that's just silly.

  • Browsing the web is going to be more expensive, if you dont have a dataflat and of course more slowly !!!!

    One of the reasons they develop flash for mobile devices is to bring adverts to the phone.

    I hope there will be the option to deactivate flash !!!

  • Awe only on N1?

  • an u tell us the release date instead of the tease? that would be better thanks

  • cant wait!!!!!!!! :D

  • omg im an iphone lover but ... flash on the nexus one =0 i want it T.T

  • When is the nexus one coming to verizon? I wan't it.

  • Spring 2010

  • apple is dumb for not having this on the iphone first. thats really its huge weakness and for not having it they should get hit hard and learn there lesson haha

  • release date?!

  • cool

  • I got a iPhone 3G S and since APPLE wont do flash im goin to switch allegiance ang get a snapdragon or higher phone with flash!!!! definitely HTC phones r on my list....

  • @derekdz2001 I'll buy your 3GS.

  • I was thinking of getting a WinMo 7 phone when they come out, but now I'm just gonna get the Google Nexus One...wow!

  • Paradise for boring ads...

  • niceee :D

  • boner city!

  • better than windows fone and iphone and the g1 fone so nexus is the best this year

  • Wow... impressive

  • heavy rain WOOP WOOP

  • and y isnt this on the droid

  • @Yago174

    because it isn't on any android phone yet

  • @Yago174 cause the droid is with motorola

  • laggy

  • 0:07 look at the time lool make a wish :P

  • wow i hate ads now

  • awesome!

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