Looking forward to get this on Blu Ray or DVD! Looks like a good movie to me. And I fairly couldn't care less about the vile democratic propaganda made against China. I'm really pissed with the behaviour of the West. Knowing nothing but judging everything.
@FengNing85 It shares values and a socialist moral, whereas american movies normally transmit to the youth ultra-individualism and the worst possibile vices.
Don't hate this film because of the current Chinese Communist Party. The CCP of today is not the Chinese Communist Party of 1921. The degeneration of the CCP began with the murder of 50.000 communists by Chang-Kai-Shek. The remaining 10.000 members became puppets of Stalin and Mao.
But this film is about the era before the degeneration. The fight against Chinese imperialism is genuine and that is why this film is not wrong. The Chinese Communist Party was a workers party in 1921.
@cosemikat You're just angry China took away your jobs in making those said dangerous products Vietnam was making WAY beforehand. But can't argue about the food, that sh-t is deadly. Still, don't hate brother, just stop eating food and buying stuff from China kay?
Over 70% of the US population lunging around the poverty limit without knowing it, dumbasses. That is before the recession and i don't know the stats after the recession but i assume it can't be any better.
The better question for your reply is, "are you jelly, dumbass?"
A lot of you don't understand how serious this recession is because many of you are too dumb to realize what is going on around the world. Yes, ambiguous as it may sound, many of you have to understand what is opinion and what is truth from the media, dumbass. We are in deep shit, plain and simple. High living wages and cost of necessities while the minimum wage is $8/hour. Even better yet, 90% of the companies residing in the U.S is not part of a union, how sad.
@Rudaorocks Dumbass, your the one that praise that dumb President Bush. President Bush is worser than Mao Ze Dong, you dumbass. You don't even understand what Communism is. I think it's cause your a dumbass.
@mienhmario I'm glad you can express your superior intellect to us all by exposing how dumb we are. I find it funny that you can even differentiate between a congressional Democrat and Republican. The honest truth is that a very high percentage of them have been paid for by large corporations, the CFR (which issues its money through its member corporations and organizations.) You fail to realize the obvious similarities between the 2 parties probably because you have yet to wake up. Dumb ass.
@Rudaorocks Your right, the term for that is "lobbied" dumbass. You don't have to be educated to understand what is real and fake. You got to understand to differentiate what is opinion and what is truth, dumbass. You cannot believe only from the western media, without taking into account the other parties media. That my friend is known as a "dumbass".
@MrMachiavelli7 Dumbass, democracy is worser. Dumb fucks can't differentiate between whats Republican and Democrat. Over 80% of the population making less than $50k have once voted for a Republican, dumbasses. Democracy works if government regulate corporations and business. Republicans are the opposite of that because they are for the corporations and businesses. Wow, your a dumbass.
@mienhmario "Over 80% of the population making less than $50k have once voted..."
You're such a dumb ass. Show me your statistics. Back it up. You come up with figures like a Communist. It's just like the Federal Reserve... making something out of nothing. We're not a Democracy. We're a Republic. Our problems started government growth and wild spending. Just like when the gov created the Department of Education to standardize education to creates dumb asses like yourself. You're a sheep.
@Rudaorocks Dumbass, Democracy and Republic overlaps, dumbass. I don't think you understand the purpose of Department of Education to bring that into topic, dumbass. You say "its just like communist" but you don't understand the meaning and lining of it because your dumbass have been soaked up by the western media to realize you're a dumbass.
They made all of this for 12 million usd?! wow, pretty impressive. Then again, i'm sure its easy when you can make anyone in your country do anything "or else".
this is a fun movie for identifying thousands of celebrities which is the only reason why i watched it..
all of you people say that this movie is a propaganda like if it is a huge issue... don't every country make propaganda of themselves so they look better to their citizens?
besides it's the 21st century and i bet everyone even the people in CHINA have the brains to know what is fake or real in this movie
@qbraveT I thank you for the refreshing comment. It's mostly a matter of bias. When there are films honoring country, in America for example, it is not propaganda it is OK. When anyone else makes a film honoring country, it's propaganda. America can have the most nukes in the world, when others make a nuke, it is an international safety concern. Space exploration is now considered a potential danger to international safety, AFTER America had its turn exploring space. It's a shame really....
@kchanforrealz I can't say it better than you did. To be honest, I'm quite disappointed with the way America acts. America always think they have rights to consider what is wrong and right.
@zubiarfan do you only know transformers, beside graphic, i don't think there is any thing people impressed by that movie. the story line is bullshit, characters are bad. fuck american government to shoot this kind of movie.
Chinese communist party failed about that they show this before Harry Potter. Don't get me wrong, this looks better than Harry Potter to me but it's pretty lame to show movie about communism, nationalism or anything like that and ban some fantasy movie which doesn't have to do anything with real life.
communism this, communism that. well it doesn't seem like the US system is working very well right now does it? If the poor people get angry who knows what will become of that country, like it happened in China and so many other places
Prevailing communist party shows it's might of existance. Regardless to the political issue. Effort wise they deserve such a movie for it's history. Don't you agree?
The Chinese government blocked Transformers, Harry Potter, and many other domestic and international movies in China in order to guarantee this movie's success. A bunch of underhanded schmucks.
@bloodelfshit Excuse me, we? Please only speak for yourself. I bet plenty of people in China would rather watch Harry Potter than this piece of not-even-trying-to-conceal-itself-as-propaganda propaganda.
And to be frank, the reality that the Communist Party of China made a movie about its "glory" self is lame. No political party in America or Western Europe can redeem itself from the embarrassment of needing to make a propaganda movie to kiss its own ass, because no one else would.
@TypeNoEvil how could you come to this idea:"I bet plenty of people in China would rather watch Harry Potter than this piece of not-even-trying-to-conceal-itself-as-propaganda propaganda." did you even undertake a process called democracy, did you even see the vote, i bet you didn't .
as usual, the parties in western country does not need to brainwash you guys with the glory f their own, they simply create a negative image called china, then people in the country will believe "we are the best
@TypeNoEvil Dumbass, America has blocked a lot of foreign companies from owning companies in U.S. Your the schmuck, who can't differentiate between whats a democrat and republican. Dumb Americans.
@promdawg ....... i've looked everywhere. i'm pro communist and love China and hate the demonstarters...but i don't see anything anywhere about them being pro communist.
comparing US war movies to this is ridiculous. such american war movies often are aimed to expose war as tragic and disgusting, while often criticizing the US govt. also, the US govt is not actively involved in such (or any) films which is not the case here. lastly - the most basic description of legitimacy is when a govt does not worry about its own legitimacy. the u.s. govt doesnt ruthlessly aim to protect its image while the ccp regularly censors its ppl and promotes propaganda such as this
awesomeo, the film looks pretty epic. but i reckon China's rebirth as a major power is more due to Deng than Mao. Mao nearly destoryed the country, it was Deng that allowed to rise again
I just came back from China a few days ago and when I was there, posters of this film was all over the nation, and it was the only thing people wanted to talk about.
Movie looks fcuking epic, now if only they had movies about Tienanmen square or the Cultural revolution as a counterweight.
Yes, saving private ryan glorified the military (one could argue it glorified military service in general..and not just american military service), either way it wasn't funded by the american government and students don't have to watch it in class.
Also, Hollywood has plenty of counterweights.
Still..movie looks epic, I am totally watching it.
When you do get over this a propraganda film funded by the government its not bad, ive watched it and the action scences are good and really has cinematic moments, just give this a chance is all
Ow and where is the part china supporting, this idiot "president" of syria (assad) And blocking every single resolution condeming violence against civilians? Dont get me wrong I love china in every way I can and love all its people exept for the government, I am not american I am european....
Where are the parts in this movie about opposition getting arrested and put in jail without trail? Where is the part where the chinese head of state has dinner with wacko Kim Jong Il? Where is the part china blocking every single western blockbuster atm just to be sure everyone goes see this movie? Where is the part where you can see websites getting blocked and sensured just because the government in china doesnt want its people to see our comments? This movie is a farce!
anyone curious about the pro-communist party posts here should look into the "五毛党" or "wu mao dang. " as a young chinese communist party member with a command of basic english you can earn the equivalent of 50 cents per post on news sites, forums or video sites such as youtube; so long as your post promotes the party. of course no perspective is completely unbiased or objective but lets call a spade a spade right?
Go to any theater in China and count the number of forced individuals awake during the movie. Ask them also does this represent the truth of their existence, of their history or do they think it was controlled by design. And ask them who the was one of the greatest mass murderers in history. The people of China should be allowed to make up their own minds, not be force fed what the state requires of them.
You are now ruled by tyrants under the guise of communism. What kind of government for the people silences the voices of the people? Knowledge is free. The individuals rights supersede the collectivist waist of communism. It builds nothing but a house of desolation. I look forward to the day when your tyrants are killed, and the individual can speak his mind without fear. Death to communism, death to collectivism, death the murder, death to oppression. Speak even if your voice trembles.
A word to all those tyrants/cogs if the Chinese government and those brain washed citizens posting here. China only has achieved the success it has now because of the economic doctrine of capitalism. In fact if your state industries ended your economy would even grow faster. The fact that you have a partly free trade economy shows that your leaders were wrong.
China needs to borrow another counties will and character just to have a 'sense of character'. Otherwise, they look cookie cutter boring to the world. Communism sucks.
There was widespread international condemnation of the government's use of force against the protesters.[5]
Following June 4, the government conducted widespread arrests of protesters and their supporters, cracked down on other protests around China, banned the foreign press from the country and strictly controlled coverage of the events in the domestic press. The Communist Party initiated a large-scale campaign to purge officials deemed sympathetic to the protests.
The movement lasted seven weeks after Hu's death on 15 April. Premier Li Peng, a hardline conservative, declared martial law on May 20, but no military action took place until June 4, when the tanks and troops of the People's Liberation Army moved into the streets of Beijing, using live fire while proceeding to Tiananmen Square to clear the area of protestors. The exact number of civilian deaths is not known, and the majority of estimates range from several hundred to thousands.
From Tiananmen Square they later expanded to the surrounding streets. Non-violent protests also occurred in cities throughout China, including Shanghai and Wuhan. Looting and rioting occurred in various locations throughout China, including Xi'an and Changsha.[6]
The protests were sparked by mass mourning over the death of former CPC General Secretary Hu Yaobang, a Party official who had been purged for his support of political liberalization.[3] By the eve of Hu's funeral, 100,000 people gathered at Tiananmen Square.[4] Beijing students began the demonstrations to encourage continued economic reform and liberalization,[5] and evolved into a mass movement for political reform.
Right, this movie is propaganda, none of these ever happened. As far as the West concerns, only things that happened few and far in between like Korea war, Tiananmen Incident, and a few bad news that CNN uttered about China. And in between, China just stood still frozen like a movie on pause.
Yeah right, if you are not ready to accept that other countries and people also have history (very likely longer than the US), then at least not think you know more about Chinese history than Chinese ppl
How dare americans talk about this film? America is by far the greatest producer of propaganda, and they export it worldwide. America possesses the world's biggest propaganda machine ever, Hollywood. It's sphere of influence is way bigger than the Chinese would ever dream to have.
People outside the US get bombed daily with the wonderful "american way of life" and how glorious is the US Army via movies and US-backed media. Ohhhh sure, it's not propaganda, it's "business". I call it bullshit.
@cbrav0 so true...and i dont really get it why always the clueless kids are crying around about some movie/videoclip they dont like, its a movie not a docu about chinese history...go and hate yourself than other things that doesnt have anything to do with you...
anyway this movie looks good, many great actors seen here.
If the students had been protesting for more communism, they'd have built a big statue of Marx or Lenin. They didn't. They built a big Statue of Liberty, i.e. a symbol of democracy, free speech and the rule of law.
You should read 'Beijing Coma' by Ma Jian...except if you're in China you can't because it's been banned. Tells the truth you see.
Behold how communist china rewrites their history and praises, the mass murderer Mao who murdered 65 million of their own people and the authoritarian government. “1984” revisited. Communist china is an evil empire in the making. Mao outran Stalin who only murdered 45 million. This movie is not ready for primetime “ Battleship Potemkin” in the 21st century produced and censored production for all 1.34 billion brain wash education.
It is meant to be a newer version of propangda for Communist China. Hu's 90 minute speech in praisng the motherland alluded to this movie of epic proportion. All the while when human rights violation is an all time high.
I have yet to watch this movie, but the trailer seems to suggest that the Communist Party was responsible for defeating the warlords (which is far from historical fact). Perhaps the movie is quite different from the trailer, but I'll have to see it. To anyone who has seen the movie: what are your takes on its historical accuracy?
And to clarify my earlier statement, by "Communist Party", I was referring to the CCP, because I'm well aware that the Soviets contributed a great amount of aid and training to the KMT-led coalition against the warlords.
The Chinese communist revolution was the greatest event of the 20th Century. Mao was a servant of the people — and they rose up from the villages and mountains and farms to take China back from the empires carving her up, the warlords raping the people and the landlord and government parasites.
China's rulers today should fear the people, just as they fear Mao's ghost. The workers and villagers will take China back again.
@eknick lol you literally have no idea what happened during tiananmen square, much less the slew of back-page retractions thewestern press made that said the Chinese governments accounts of the events were accurate and the reportings of mass slaughter act were false, additionally you foolishly believe a bunch of people who are angry their country wont let them be idly rich millionaires have the best interests of poor chinese at heart
@eknick If you knew anything about the Tienanmen Square protests it was a PRO-Communist protest. They were protesting the fact that China was becoming less and less socialist after the death of Chairman Mao.
It is just disgusting that the actual reason as to why the students were protesting gets lost in translation in the west....
@promdawg unless and unless? China never was a communist country. They went from a stalinist dictatorship under Mao to a semi-capitalist dicatorship they have today. The only true practice of communism was the Paris Commune...other then that communism has never been practiced as it was truly intended
Why would China say that they gunned down a group that wanted Democratic Communism? If you don't believe what I said then YOU must have been dropped on your head...
@promdawg Not exactly dude. Wang Hui encapsulates the protesters' motivation by stating that, " When looked at from a broader or synthetic perspective, however, the reforms that the greater part of the populace hoped for and their ideals for democracy and rule by law were for the purposes of guaranteeing social justice and the democratization of economic life through the restructuring of politics and the legal system."
People, please go read about the Tienanmen Square protests yourself. Don't disgrace the memory and actions of those who participated in those protests.
@DeathZeroTolerance dude you are in a clinic state called 'hyper-exciting'. people come here only argues in case of this particular movie, not Tiananmen shit. if you wanna to drag some shit with you, plz type in tiananmen on top of the youtube and click search. then go to any of the video, there will be more professional people to join your discussion.
@segregator236 Yes but American theatres do not clear out competing movies so that audiences must watch this movie. Neither does American companies, organizations, educational institutions persuade people to go watch a certain movie. It's hilarious that you are comparing American democracy to authoritarian China. LMAO
@segregator236 US serviceman committed some of the worst acts of barbarity in any given war they were involved in. 3/4 of n. korea's population was exterminated on purpose.
@segregator236 have to admit, you are damn right on the definition of propaganda, however, i take it as you also agree this movie is a piece of propaganda, since u already said 'every' movie is,
btw, yankees do occasionally tell stories of both sides, u never seen 'Letters from Iwo Jima'? have ya?
@segregator236 Right, but their success relies on the already brainwashed, or the simply mindless ones: at least Jerry Bruckheimer doesn't try to force his shit down EVERYBODY'S throat, because he only needs money, not brain-puppeting power. Spielberg is a helpless case somewhere between the other two.
@Xoxinwulf The fact that those movies aren't commissioned by the gov't just makes it worse, because it means that nowadays the State is not the only brain-washing entity in the US, people do it willingly.
Democracy makes us believe that because the State is not telling us what to do everyday we're free, and that's clearly not the case. Democracy is in fact the worst kind of dictatorship, because it validates being under the yoke.
@segregator236 You're an idiot. Did you know that 'Beginning of the Great Revival' is a STATE FUNDED movie? They will also require school children to watch it in their schools. This is much different then Saving Private Ryan. Please get smarter before even making a post.
I am a chinese and we do have a harry potte-
thatguysaids 6 days ago
ahh... I love chinese cinema...
The best movie was the return of chenzhen
tennisnviolinchic12 1 week ago
Looking forward to get this on Blu Ray or DVD! Looks like a good movie to me. And I fairly couldn't care less about the vile democratic propaganda made against China. I'm really pissed with the behaviour of the West. Knowing nothing but judging everything.
The0neEvil 1 month ago
So many trolls.
Epical99 2 months ago
Oh comeon, how is this different than a braveheart or 'the patriot'? Every country has a movie like this...
FengNing85 2 months ago
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Tauredon 2 months ago
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@FengNing85 It shares values and a socialist moral, whereas american movies normally transmit to the youth ultra-individualism and the worst possibile vices.
Tauredon 2 months ago
A great movie, I really reccomend it.
Down with western decadent "culture"!
Go socialist and sovereign China! Long live Chinese Communist Party!
Tauredon 2 months ago 3
Long Live the Communist Party of China! Down with global capitalism-imperialism!
RedAntLiberationArmy 3 months ago 2
This film would be better without including the typical Hongkong actors like Edison Chen, Andy Lau, Fan Bing
MintyGelato 3 months ago
why would anyone watch hollywood trash
Lordofthenipplerings 4 months ago
Who wants to play with fire?
daburnell112 4 months ago
OKAAAY....so...how was the movie? Dumbass......
7klown7 4 months ago
Don't hate this film because of the current Chinese Communist Party. The CCP of today is not the Chinese Communist Party of 1921. The degeneration of the CCP began with the murder of 50.000 communists by Chang-Kai-Shek. The remaining 10.000 members became puppets of Stalin and Mao.
But this film is about the era before the degeneration. The fight against Chinese imperialism is genuine and that is why this film is not wrong. The Chinese Communist Party was a workers party in 1921.
UDSS 4 months ago
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Bullshit: This was the foundation of Nationalist Democratic China, and it continued until Cheng Kai Shek was overthrown by Mao.
Chinese revisionist history.
TheAwakenedHeretic 4 months ago
I love this movie, and you bunch of empty sh-holes compare it to Harry Potter or Transformers. Get a life, that is my message to you all.
Januszntb 4 months ago
dirty foods and dangerous toys made in China what i see about that country
cosemikat 5 months ago
@cosemikat Food MADE in China? What, do you eat Wonton noodles or something?
nicck 4 months ago
I hate China so much. They killed a lot of people by dangerous food and products make cancer
cosemikat 5 months ago
@cosemikat You're just angry China took away your jobs in making those said dangerous products Vietnam was making WAY beforehand. But can't argue about the food, that sh-t is deadly. Still, don't hate brother, just stop eating food and buying stuff from China kay?
kovona 4 months ago
it's as a dumb. so stupid, ugly.....
cosemikat 5 months ago
i am a chinese and we do have harry potter, transformers shown in china =.= u better stay quiet if u don' t know anything about it
IZABVIP 5 months ago 8
@IZABVIP Yes, and in China you even got GONG LI ! ^^
otacs2 2 months ago
EPIC!
madmestesoskillz 5 months ago
Viva les étudiants de 89!
joeysun4 5 months ago
What a pathetic excuse for propaganda President Hu Jintao. Cowardly pathetic attempt.
Caliell 5 months ago
Boom and Boom, i lay the smack down you phaggots!
mienhmario 6 months ago
Over 70% of the US population lunging around the poverty limit without knowing it, dumbasses. That is before the recession and i don't know the stats after the recession but i assume it can't be any better.
The better question for your reply is, "are you jelly, dumbass?"
mienhmario 6 months ago
Did you know every company in China has to be part of a UNION. Do you realize how important that is, especially in the workforce?
mienhmario 6 months ago
A lot of you don't understand how serious this recession is because many of you are too dumb to realize what is going on around the world. Yes, ambiguous as it may sound, many of you have to understand what is opinion and what is truth from the media, dumbass. We are in deep shit, plain and simple. High living wages and cost of necessities while the minimum wage is $8/hour. Even better yet, 90% of the companies residing in the U.S is not part of a union, how sad.
mienhmario 6 months ago
Communism is alive and well in the hearts of our congressmen and women/ senators/ and Obamao Ze Dong.
Rudaorocks 6 months ago
@Rudaorocks Dumbass, your the one that praise that dumb President Bush. President Bush is worser than Mao Ze Dong, you dumbass. You don't even understand what Communism is. I think it's cause your a dumbass.
mienhmario 6 months ago
@mienhmario I'm glad you can express your superior intellect to us all by exposing how dumb we are. I find it funny that you can even differentiate between a congressional Democrat and Republican. The honest truth is that a very high percentage of them have been paid for by large corporations, the CFR (which issues its money through its member corporations and organizations.) You fail to realize the obvious similarities between the 2 parties probably because you have yet to wake up. Dumb ass.
Rudaorocks 6 months ago
@Rudaorocks Your right, the term for that is "lobbied" dumbass. You don't have to be educated to understand what is real and fake. You got to understand to differentiate what is opinion and what is truth, dumbass. You cannot believe only from the western media, without taking into account the other parties media. That my friend is known as a "dumbass".
mienhmario 6 months ago
Transformers was SHIT apart fm the first one. harry potter is a good movie though.
choyixiao 6 months ago
Fuck capitalism!
yingyu0502 6 months ago
FUCK COMMUNISM !
MrMachiavelli7 6 months ago
@MrMachiavelli7 Dumbass, democracy is worser. Dumb fucks can't differentiate between whats Republican and Democrat. Over 80% of the population making less than $50k have once voted for a Republican, dumbasses. Democracy works if government regulate corporations and business. Republicans are the opposite of that because they are for the corporations and businesses. Wow, your a dumbass.
mienhmario 6 months ago
@mienhmario kill yourself ! FUCK COMMUNISM AND FUCK YOU !
MrMachiavelli7 6 months ago
@mienhmario "Over 80% of the population making less than $50k have once voted..."
You're such a dumb ass. Show me your statistics. Back it up. You come up with figures like a Communist. It's just like the Federal Reserve... making something out of nothing. We're not a Democracy. We're a Republic. Our problems started government growth and wild spending. Just like when the gov created the Department of Education to standardize education to creates dumb asses like yourself. You're a sheep.
Rudaorocks 6 months ago
@Rudaorocks Dumbass, Democracy and Republic overlaps, dumbass. I don't think you understand the purpose of Department of Education to bring that into topic, dumbass. You say "its just like communist" but you don't understand the meaning and lining of it because your dumbass have been soaked up by the western media to realize you're a dumbass.
mienhmario 6 months ago
Should say "loosely based on Historical fact" Hate these revisionist schmucks!!
Jachzehn 6 months ago
中國加油~!
希望能成為豐富和繁榮的國家
fuzzstation 6 months ago
I prefer kun fu panda :"D
jbmw25 6 months ago
Trash and boring :"(
jbmw25 6 months ago
Looks like we got QQ's as our top comments.
Kenster326 6 months ago
They made all of this for 12 million usd?! wow, pretty impressive. Then again, i'm sure its easy when you can make anyone in your country do anything "or else".
nexusmaxis1 7 months ago
this is a fun movie for identifying thousands of celebrities which is the only reason why i watched it..
all of you people say that this movie is a propaganda like if it is a huge issue... don't every country make propaganda of themselves so they look better to their citizens?
besides it's the 21st century and i bet everyone even the people in CHINA have the brains to know what is fake or real in this movie
qbraveT 7 months ago 13
@qbraveT
Don't bet on it. People can be amazingly stupid.
1tephania 6 months ago
@qbraveT still its a great movie. lol.
madmestesoskillz 5 months ago
@qbraveT you'd be suprised with the power of propaganda
Darkchriz 2 months ago
@Darkchriz What they pointed out is that China is not the only country that uses it, not whether or not propaganda is effective.
ilikefoodxD 1 month ago
@qbraveT I thank you for the refreshing comment. It's mostly a matter of bias. When there are films honoring country, in America for example, it is not propaganda it is OK. When anyone else makes a film honoring country, it's propaganda. America can have the most nukes in the world, when others make a nuke, it is an international safety concern. Space exploration is now considered a potential danger to international safety, AFTER America had its turn exploring space. It's a shame really....
kchanforrealz 2 months ago
@kchanforrealz I can't say it better than you did. To be honest, I'm quite disappointed with the way America acts. America always think they have rights to consider what is wrong and right.
qbraveT 1 month ago 2
harry potter is trash. are you kidding me
Lordofthenipplerings 7 months ago
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Long live Communism
Lordofthenipplerings 7 months ago
commie scums
violetbloodtimisoara 7 months ago
@violetbloodtimisoara oh ye, white ass are dumb shit.
bloodelfshit 7 months ago
Fuck Chinese government. This movie is nothing compared to HP or Transformers.
zubiarfan 7 months ago
@zubiarfan do you only know transformers, beside graphic, i don't think there is any thing people impressed by that movie. the story line is bullshit, characters are bad. fuck american government to shoot this kind of movie.
bloodelfshit 7 months ago
@zubiarfan I rather watch this than American Imperialism with Special Effects or Fantasy.
muciope 6 months ago 2
Anyone has english subtitle?
teikucay 7 months ago
Chinese communist party failed about that they show this before Harry Potter. Don't get me wrong, this looks better than Harry Potter to me but it's pretty lame to show movie about communism, nationalism or anything like that and ban some fantasy movie which doesn't have to do anything with real life.
isokessu 7 months ago
this movie sucks big time!
0M69 7 months ago
communism this, communism that. well it doesn't seem like the US system is working very well right now does it? If the poor people get angry who knows what will become of that country, like it happened in China and so many other places
Toop3 7 months ago
Prevailing communist party shows it's might of existance. Regardless to the political issue. Effort wise they deserve such a movie for it's history. Don't you agree?
yurihuski 7 months ago
The Chinese government blocked Transformers, Harry Potter, and many other domestic and international movies in China in order to guarantee this movie's success. A bunch of underhanded schmucks.
TypeNoEvil 7 months ago 22
@TypeNoEvil so what, we don't want to be brainwashed by the imagination from west.
bloodelfshit 7 months ago
@bloodelfshit Excuse me, we? Please only speak for yourself. I bet plenty of people in China would rather watch Harry Potter than this piece of not-even-trying-to-conceal-itself-as-propaganda propaganda.
And to be frank, the reality that the Communist Party of China made a movie about its "glory" self is lame. No political party in America or Western Europe can redeem itself from the embarrassment of needing to make a propaganda movie to kiss its own ass, because no one else would.
TypeNoEvil 7 months ago
@TypeNoEvil how could you come to this idea:"I bet plenty of people in China would rather watch Harry Potter than this piece of not-even-trying-to-conceal-itself-as-propaganda propaganda." did you even undertake a process called democracy, did you even see the vote, i bet you didn't .
as usual, the parties in western country does not need to brainwash you guys with the glory f their own, they simply create a negative image called china, then people in the country will believe "we are the best
bloodelfshit 7 months ago
@TypeNoEvil Gosh man I should bring alot of Torrent Movie next time I vist my Family. (LOL FACE)
noob2top3210 7 months ago
@TypeNoEvil Harry potter sucks ... as well as the other crappy american movies produced nowadays.
In my opinion, no waste.
MotoscuterZ 6 months ago
@TypeNoEvil I wish my government block transformers and harry potter and other shit films.
id1337x 6 months ago
@id1337x I don't know why either, but i think it's due to foreign influences, dumbass.
mienhmario 6 months ago
@TypeNoEvil Dumbass, America has blocked a lot of foreign companies from owning companies in U.S. Your the schmuck, who can't differentiate between whats a democrat and republican. Dumb Americans.
mienhmario 6 months ago
@TypeNoEvil Don't know what u talking about?? but my brother watched Transformer and harry Potter in beijing china!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
taoziwei 5 months ago
@TypeNoEvil To be honest, the films you just listed were shit though...
nicck 4 months ago
@TypeNoEvil Stop trolling for unicorns.
kovona 4 months ago
@promdawg ....... i've looked everywhere. i'm pro communist and love China and hate the demonstarters...but i don't see anything anywhere about them being pro communist.
bowness006 7 months ago
This is straight communist propaganda.
Thelionzeronine 7 months ago
comparing US war movies to this is ridiculous. such american war movies often are aimed to expose war as tragic and disgusting, while often criticizing the US govt. also, the US govt is not actively involved in such (or any) films which is not the case here. lastly - the most basic description of legitimacy is when a govt does not worry about its own legitimacy. the u.s. govt doesnt ruthlessly aim to protect its image while the ccp regularly censors its ppl and promotes propaganda such as this
ndoctor27 7 months ago 3
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Isn't this movie on the Bottom 100 of IMDB?
alternatekennesaw 7 months ago
John Woo just showed the world his true colors...
AlanJonesFilms 7 months ago
It's a shame this movie have to make money in order for other movie to be shown in China
daivenluo 7 months ago
@daivenluo Yeah,
useurcamera 7 months ago
i'm a strong believer in freedom of speech, and have a lot of criticism towards china, but this looks EPIC!!
janschilthuizen 7 months ago
@ChaosDynamics so naive...
syri0 7 months ago
wasn't mao the one who invade tibet ? well i don't know much, but i kinda sympathetic toward tibet.
phxeko 7 months ago
dang...kinda wanna watch it. cant find it tho.
sickslipknotmaggot 7 months ago
@sickslipknotmaggot
I just saw it. It's pretty decent. Though most of the actors only had like 5 min roles or something.
Here is a link: azdrama.net/watch-online-beginning-of-the-great-revival-12046.html
valentin6li 6 months ago
awesomeo, the film looks pretty epic. but i reckon China's rebirth as a major power is more due to Deng than Mao. Mao nearly destoryed the country, it was Deng that allowed to rise again
bharbir 7 months ago
lol. this movie looks exactly like some Hollywood bullshit history propaganda... ROFL....
China: Communist revolutionaries= good Others = bad
USA: Marines = good Others = bad
MuddahFukkah 7 months ago
im sorry i dont know politics, but china whatever their system is, it works. they are great country now. in less than 100 years.
munafixor 7 months ago
I just came back from China a few days ago and when I was there, posters of this film was all over the nation, and it was the only thing people wanted to talk about.
DJHarrison93 7 months ago
Movie looks fcuking epic, now if only they had movies about Tienanmen square or the Cultural revolution as a counterweight.
Yes, saving private ryan glorified the military (one could argue it glorified military service in general..and not just american military service), either way it wasn't funded by the american government and students don't have to watch it in class.
Also, Hollywood has plenty of counterweights.
Still..movie looks epic, I am totally watching it.
pmukherj87 8 months ago
It's blatantly one sides, but I'd still watch it.
mobius1aic 8 months ago
Chineese citizens are being forced to watch this movie. Loads of history is rewritten. Its purely propaganda and is historical inaccurate...
rlu006 8 months ago
@rlu006 I don't care if you call this movie as propaganda, but this epic propaganda is hard to be missed...
teikucay 7 months ago
So, what exactly was MAO's role in the party?
blocbonbon 8 months ago
pity that they uploaded it interlaced...
blocbonbon 8 months ago
When you do get over this a propraganda film funded by the government its not bad, ive watched it and the action scences are good and really has cinematic moments, just give this a chance is all
barronfat12 8 months ago
pure trash
DJTommy812 8 months ago
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Whiskey rebellion? Shays rebellion? civil war? kent state? waco?
Lordofthenipplerings 8 months ago
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Lordofthenipplerings 8 months ago
Because there wasnt any. The population was 400 million in 1949. It over 700 million by the 1970s. Everything else is speculation.
Lordofthenipplerings 8 months ago
americans are trash. Please. go away.
Lordofthenipplerings 8 months ago
Ow and where is the part china supporting, this idiot "president" of syria (assad) And blocking every single resolution condeming violence against civilians? Dont get me wrong I love china in every way I can and love all its people exept for the government, I am not american I am european....
pacaskurban 8 months ago
Where are the parts in this movie about opposition getting arrested and put in jail without trail? Where is the part where the chinese head of state has dinner with wacko Kim Jong Il? Where is the part china blocking every single western blockbuster atm just to be sure everyone goes see this movie? Where is the part where you can see websites getting blocked and sensured just because the government in china doesnt want its people to see our comments? This movie is a farce!
pacaskurban 8 months ago
anyone curious about the pro-communist party posts here should look into the "五毛党" or "wu mao dang. " as a young chinese communist party member with a command of basic english you can earn the equivalent of 50 cents per post on news sites, forums or video sites such as youtube; so long as your post promotes the party. of course no perspective is completely unbiased or objective but lets call a spade a spade right?
prospermerimee 8 months ago
Where's the part they show the +70 million people dying from famine? I hope it's in 3D!
MrMortal824 8 months ago
Go to any theater in China and count the number of forced individuals awake during the movie. Ask them also does this represent the truth of their existence, of their history or do they think it was controlled by design. And ask them who the was one of the greatest mass murderers in history. The people of China should be allowed to make up their own minds, not be force fed what the state requires of them.
RickyScarma7 8 months ago
You are now ruled by tyrants under the guise of communism. What kind of government for the people silences the voices of the people? Knowledge is free. The individuals rights supersede the collectivist waist of communism. It builds nothing but a house of desolation. I look forward to the day when your tyrants are killed, and the individual can speak his mind without fear. Death to communism, death to collectivism, death the murder, death to oppression. Speak even if your voice trembles.
lastfaceseen24 8 months ago
A word to all those tyrants/cogs if the Chinese government and those brain washed citizens posting here. China only has achieved the success it has now because of the economic doctrine of capitalism. In fact if your state industries ended your economy would even grow faster. The fact that you have a partly free trade economy shows that your leaders were wrong.
lastfaceseen24 8 months ago
China needs to borrow another counties will and character just to have a 'sense of character'. Otherwise, they look cookie cutter boring to the world. Communism sucks.
buddacafe 8 months ago
Several senior officials, most notably Party General Secretary Zhao Ziyang, were placed under house arrest.
lastfaceseen24 8 months ago
There was widespread international condemnation of the government's use of force against the protesters.[5]
Following June 4, the government conducted widespread arrests of protesters and their supporters, cracked down on other protests around China, banned the foreign press from the country and strictly controlled coverage of the events in the domestic press. The Communist Party initiated a large-scale campaign to purge officials deemed sympathetic to the protests.
lastfaceseen24 8 months ago
The movement lasted seven weeks after Hu's death on 15 April. Premier Li Peng, a hardline conservative, declared martial law on May 20, but no military action took place until June 4, when the tanks and troops of the People's Liberation Army moved into the streets of Beijing, using live fire while proceeding to Tiananmen Square to clear the area of protestors. The exact number of civilian deaths is not known, and the majority of estimates range from several hundred to thousands.
lastfaceseen24 8 months ago
From Tiananmen Square they later expanded to the surrounding streets. Non-violent protests also occurred in cities throughout China, including Shanghai and Wuhan. Looting and rioting occurred in various locations throughout China, including Xi'an and Changsha.[6]
lastfaceseen24 8 months ago
The protests were sparked by mass mourning over the death of former CPC General Secretary Hu Yaobang, a Party official who had been purged for his support of political liberalization.[3] By the eve of Hu's funeral, 100,000 people gathered at Tiananmen Square.[4] Beijing students began the demonstrations to encourage continued economic reform and liberalization,[5] and evolved into a mass movement for political reform.
lastfaceseen24 8 months ago
It dosent look that bad as Imdb rated. 2.2 out of 10? Im not chinese
ebispo13 8 months ago
At 85 cents an hour per extra..anyone can make an epic movie in China..
CamiloSanchez1979 8 months ago
I'm not American and I think this sucks is it alright ?
wondeguy 8 months ago
shut up, tomorrow u say holocaust wasnt exist.
lightsleep2008 8 months ago
Right, this movie is propaganda, none of these ever happened. As far as the West concerns, only things that happened few and far in between like Korea war, Tiananmen Incident, and a few bad news that CNN uttered about China. And in between, China just stood still frozen like a movie on pause.
Yeah right, if you are not ready to accept that other countries and people also have history (very likely longer than the US), then at least not think you know more about Chinese history than Chinese ppl
honghuy37 8 months ago
How dare americans talk about this film? America is by far the greatest producer of propaganda, and they export it worldwide. America possesses the world's biggest propaganda machine ever, Hollywood. It's sphere of influence is way bigger than the Chinese would ever dream to have.
People outside the US get bombed daily with the wonderful "american way of life" and how glorious is the US Army via movies and US-backed media. Ohhhh sure, it's not propaganda, it's "business". I call it bullshit.
cbrav0 8 months ago 4
@cbrav0 so true...and i dont really get it why always the clueless kids are crying around about some movie/videoclip they dont like, its a movie not a docu about chinese history...go and hate yourself than other things that doesnt have anything to do with you...
anyway this movie looks good, many great actors seen here.
Soru1984 8 months ago
@promdawg
If the students had been protesting for more communism, they'd have built a big statue of Marx or Lenin. They didn't. They built a big Statue of Liberty, i.e. a symbol of democracy, free speech and the rule of law.
You should read 'Beijing Coma' by Ma Jian...except if you're in China you can't because it's been banned. Tells the truth you see.
kamisama72 8 months ago
Behold how communist china rewrites their history and praises, the mass murderer Mao who murdered 65 million of their own people and the authoritarian government. “1984” revisited. Communist china is an evil empire in the making. Mao outran Stalin who only murdered 45 million. This movie is not ready for primetime “ Battleship Potemkin” in the 21st century produced and censored production for all 1.34 billion brain wash education.
eslaugh 8 months ago
It is meant to be a newer version of propangda for Communist China. Hu's 90 minute speech in praisng the motherland alluded to this movie of epic proportion. All the while when human rights violation is an all time high.
eslaugh 8 months ago
I have yet to watch this movie, but the trailer seems to suggest that the Communist Party was responsible for defeating the warlords (which is far from historical fact). Perhaps the movie is quite different from the trailer, but I'll have to see it. To anyone who has seen the movie: what are your takes on its historical accuracy?
mrdrfez 8 months ago
And to clarify my earlier statement, by "Communist Party", I was referring to the CCP, because I'm well aware that the Soviets contributed a great amount of aid and training to the KMT-led coalition against the warlords.
mrdrfez 8 months ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
funkyfacewash 8 months ago
The Chinese communist revolution was the greatest event of the 20th Century. Mao was a servant of the people — and they rose up from the villages and mountains and farms to take China back from the empires carving her up, the warlords raping the people and the landlord and government parasites.
China's rulers today should fear the people, just as they fear Mao's ghost. The workers and villagers will take China back again.
JayBroquet 8 months ago
Is it compulsory to watch it for every Chinese?
Tetsuoha 8 months ago
Long live the worker's party!
greendayidiot13 8 months ago
omg soooo gonna watch thiss!
athrunxo 8 months ago
lol every familiar chinese star faces are in the film
JZSNtelpy 8 months ago
wat?? seems just like the last movie that came out with alot of actors??? wth
supamanhawj 8 months ago
0:37 "viva student"
not so true during Tiananmen square protest of 1989 LOL
eknick 8 months ago
@eknick lol you literally have no idea what happened during tiananmen square, much less the slew of back-page retractions thewestern press made that said the Chinese governments accounts of the events were accurate and the reportings of mass slaughter act were false, additionally you foolishly believe a bunch of people who are angry their country wont let them be idly rich millionaires have the best interests of poor chinese at heart
CajunCommie 8 months ago
@eknick If you knew anything about the Tienanmen Square protests it was a PRO-Communist protest. They were protesting the fact that China was becoming less and less socialist after the death of Chairman Mao.
It is just disgusting that the actual reason as to why the students were protesting gets lost in translation in the west....
promdawg 8 months ago 18
@promdawg i agree but the socialism in china is just a baby step for now and china is a capitalism country.
dennis0726 8 months ago
@promdawg unless and unless? China never was a communist country. They went from a stalinist dictatorship under Mao to a semi-capitalist dicatorship they have today. The only true practice of communism was the Paris Commune...other then that communism has never been practiced as it was truly intended
Dumpstermuffin1 8 months ago
@promdawg you must've been dropped on your head as a child if you actually believe that.
fecklessman 8 months ago
@fecklessman
Why would China say that they gunned down a group that wanted Democratic Communism? If you don't believe what I said then YOU must have been dropped on your head...
promdawg 8 months ago
@promdawg it was pro-democracy.. i can't really tell if your serious.
mdr2506 8 months ago
@promdawg Not exactly dude. Wang Hui encapsulates the protesters' motivation by stating that, " When looked at from a broader or synthetic perspective, however, the reforms that the greater part of the populace hoped for and their ideals for democracy and rule by law were for the purposes of guaranteeing social justice and the democratization of economic life through the restructuring of politics and the legal system."
jlwace314 7 months ago
@promdawg
ROFL. How does your comment have19 upvotes?
That is some serious propaganda bullshit.
People, please go read about the Tienanmen Square protests yourself. Don't disgrace the memory and actions of those who participated in those protests.
DeathZeroTolerance 7 months ago
@DeathZeroTolerance dude you are in a clinic state called 'hyper-exciting'. people come here only argues in case of this particular movie, not Tiananmen shit. if you wanna to drag some shit with you, plz type in tiananmen on top of the youtube and click search. then go to any of the video, there will be more professional people to join your discussion.
bloodelfshit 7 months ago
Great Movie
catseye102770 8 months ago
whola2010
China is communist in name only. You want communism look at GM bondholders bankrupted to give shares to UAW autoworkers. That's the real communism.
chijen2010 8 months ago
Epic movie Long live the people's republic viva la revolucion
dopeskies 8 months ago
你，即中华。
you, great China.
du bist China.
longtea 8 months ago
it is a propaganda movie of Chinese government
looks relatively impressive because they have all the money to hire most sophisticated film makers from all over the world
DogyKane 8 months ago
@DogyKane
Every movie is propaganda. That includes Saving Private Ryan, Pearl Harbor, etc.
People simply call movies that don't tell their side of the story "propaganda".
But do US movies tell both sides? No.
segregator236 8 months ago 44
@segregator236 Yes but American theatres do not clear out competing movies so that audiences must watch this movie. Neither does American companies, organizations, educational institutions persuade people to go watch a certain movie. It's hilarious that you are comparing American democracy to authoritarian China. LMAO
kchau84 8 months ago
@kchau84 you really have no idea how media is produced and consumed in the US and the west generally
CajunCommie 8 months ago
@segregator236 letters from iwo jima....
firetFuckTheSystem 8 months ago
@segregator236 US serviceman committed some of the worst acts of barbarity in any given war they were involved in. 3/4 of n. korea's population was exterminated on purpose.
CajunCommie 8 months ago
@segregator236 have to admit, you are damn right on the definition of propaganda, however, i take it as you also agree this movie is a piece of propaganda, since u already said 'every' movie is,
btw, yankees do occasionally tell stories of both sides, u never seen 'Letters from Iwo Jima'? have ya?
DogyKane 8 months ago
@segregator236 Ever watched Letters from Iwo Jima?
mrdrfez 8 months ago
@segregator236: sometimes but with little volume and USA is always play the super hero character!!!!
Doraemonchina 8 months ago
@segregator236 lol in this movies the chinese student mention about woodrew woodson about that hes a bad president
dennis0726 8 months ago
@segregator236 lol American movies are sensationalized versions for the most part. This is PROPAGANDA!
13lackLight 8 months ago
@segregator236 Right, but their success relies on the already brainwashed, or the simply mindless ones: at least Jerry Bruckheimer doesn't try to force his shit down EVERYBODY'S throat, because he only needs money, not brain-puppeting power. Spielberg is a helpless case somewhere between the other two.
haranoe 8 months ago
@segregator236 US films aren't government commissioned, just meant to appeal to the masses in an attempt to profit.
Xoxinwulf 8 months ago
@Xoxinwulf The fact that those movies aren't commissioned by the gov't just makes it worse, because it means that nowadays the State is not the only brain-washing entity in the US, people do it willingly.
Democracy makes us believe that because the State is not telling us what to do everyday we're free, and that's clearly not the case. Democracy is in fact the worst kind of dictatorship, because it validates being under the yoke.
cbrav0 8 months ago
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@segregator236 You're an idiot. Did you know that 'Beginning of the Great Revival' is a STATE FUNDED movie? They will also require school children to watch it in their schools. This is much different then Saving Private Ryan. Please get smarter before even making a post.
VdawgProductions 8 months ago