are people actually still going on about this !!! it is actually called International SAMBA.but people in the business call it samba for short .cos it uses elements of brazilian samba it is inspired by the culture not trying to insult it intentionally and this is a show dance using elements of international samba.out it is branching out again so don't blame the dancers this decision to call it samba was made long before these amazing performers were born Lets just marvel at there talent please x
I understand that this is international samba, but I also understand people getting upset over it being called samba. Samba is originally from Brazil, why couldn't they choose a different name for it? Like Intesamba, whatever, but why samba? that is not creative. I would get upset if they called Cumbia or Vallenato a music with a totally different sound. Or what if they decided to call this International Trance? Or Rock? Metal? I think if they mess with your own culture you would understand
It's like the Brittish saying we don't speak English because of the accent :-) Who do you think you are saying what's samba or not? Why don't you just become a world champion and tell us what a real samba should be :-)
@cheesyfun until someone messes with your culture you won't understand. Is like the British people getting upset at Americans calling their queen "Queen of England" instead of "Queen of Britain" and I have seen that on youtube!!! It is not right to take the name from a type of music from a country and give it to something different (no matter how many roots it has on samba)... why don't we name this international English Ballad instead? Become a world champion too and be empathetic to culture.
@lvergara87 Understandable. Being upset as someone else mess with your culture is understandable. However, the comments made by the people on youtube are not helping it. Look for any Samba videos and you'd see comments among the line of "This is not Samba! This is like ... Salsa!" I then LOLed and move on with my life.
@lvergara87 Understandable. Being upset as someone else mess with your culture is understandable. However, the comments made by the people on youtube are not helping it. Look for any Samba videos and you'd see comments among the line of "This is not Samba! This is like ... Salsa!" I then LOLed and move on with my life.
@seravi Yes, you're right on that one too. It's not like this is something critical, yet I feel it is kind of wrong to have named this samba, because it really isn't... it does sound more like salsa though :P
@sagisli but that isnt what samba is about! thats what makes this not a samba. samba is about being free and having a good time! and musically it takes as much artistry and skill to compose sambas
Es samba de Ballroom, que no es igual a la Brasilera antes de comentar negativamente estaría bueno que se informaran correctamente, eso si es samba!!! y de una exquisita!!!
Que manera de destrozar uno de los sones mas bonitos que tiene México y que es como un himno en veracruz. Aparte que, de samba los monos no bailaron nada.
@philipxhsmx What made me furious is not the style of dancing, the performance,it is more the fact that they 'name' samba a dance which is performed in completely other rythms than Samba, i speak about 'rythme' not dance..because Samba is firstofall a rythme. We can have different salsa, rumba for ex mais O samba is only One!! special rythme, witch comes from Brazil!! a so peculiar rythme!!Also I've never heard for ex a rock band without guitar!! did you imagine dançar valsa on rock rythme?
@anonymous10001000 well it is international style and we're not gonna change it ...and why are u soo bothered these guys are amazing dancers at this style its not there fault that ..that somebody decided to call this rhythm if u don't like it dont comment they were 7 times undefeated world champions what the hell have u won
@anonymous1000100 and if u dont agree or dont like it dont watch and dont comment ...and get a life ..rather than having an aneurism over your tube vids ...sad existence
@anonymous10001000 The only way have a culture is to keep it growing and improving. If you like Brazilian Samba why don't you try to work on making it better? Make it more appealing and more people will find interest and want it. If you think there's something wrong with that then you're the arrogant one. Why should we find interest in something that people won't work for? People with a chip on their sholders destroy more than anyone else especially their own ideals.
@anonymous10001000 The only way to have a culture is to keep it growing and improving. If you like Brazilian Samba why don't you just try to make it better? Make it more appealing and more people will find interest and want it. If you think there's something wrong with that then you're the arrogant one. Why should we find interest in something that people won't work for? People with a chip on their sholders destroy more than anyone else.
@rexbreed i do love my samba, and i dont expect everyone else to love my samba. But I just wish people would respect my cultural heritage/traditions by not naming their dance samba.......
Where is Samba rythme? they call the danse 'samba', but it s wrong!!! married to a Brazilian, i'm very furious!!! IT IS NO O SAMBA ! Even more, Brasil is the only country of south America speaking portuguese and not Spanish!!!
Where is Samba rythme? they call the danse 'samba', but it s wrong!!! married to a Brazilian, i'm very furious!!! IT IS NO O SAMBA ! Even more, Brasil is the only country of south America speaking portuguese and not Spanish!!!
Where is Samba rythme? they call the danse 'samba', but it s wrong!!! married to a Brazilian, i'm very furious!!! IT IS NO O SAMBA ! Even more, Brasil is the only country of south America speaking portuguese and not Spanish!!!
Where is Samba rythme? they call the danse 'samba', but it s wrong!!! married to a Brazilian, i'm very furious!!! IT IS NO O SAMBA ! Even more, Brasil is the only country of south America speaking portuguese and not Spanish!!!
@nidream its international samba style dont be offended these are amazing dancers and its not there fault they didnt call this style the samba get over it
When I started dancing in the UK in the 50s we used to dance the Brazilian Samba which was very fast and exciting. Then the dance teachers got togetherin the mid 50s and decided to go for a slower version of the dance and refered to it as the Samba.
I found it far to slow.A good example of th faster version is in the music called Soul Limbo
@le0liveira Well what about Brazilians taking Zouk which is a dance that originates from the French Caribbean? It looks nothing like Zouk, but yet still calling it Zouk. Isn't that taking something from another culture & using it to sell a lie? I'm sure the people of Martinique & Guadelope would agree. There are many different styles, variations of many dances. In case you missed my name I am Brazilian, more important things in life to be complaining about dances.
Samba that we dance in pairs is called "Samba de Gafieira" and 100% brazilian.
These others dance styles that you see at international events (or competitions) are not THE Samba... well... not what we know as Samba.
They call it International Ballroom Samba or either "International Standard Samba" and even the songs aren't Samba songs... the brazilian style, and rhythm are beautiful and we would love to see it at international competitions!
Samba that we dance in pairs is called "Samba de Gafieira" and 100% brazilian.
These others dance styles that you see at international events (or competitions) are not THE Samba... well... not what we know as Samba.
They call it International Ballroom Samba or either "International Standard Samba" and even the songs aren't Samba songs... the brazilian style, and rhythm are beautiful and we would love to see it at international competitions!
@BrasilenaMami. I agree with you. Some Brazilian mistakenly call the Lambazouk of Zouk ... it is also wrong! But one mistake does not admit the another!
@le0liveira Samba de Gafieira is a name of a partner dance in Brazil. How could it be the translation of "Latin Ballroom Samba"? It is understandable that "ballroom Samba" in Brazil refers to Samba de Gafieira; however, in the international scenes, "International Latin America Samba" refers to the dance being danced in the video above. The two are very very loose connected. Sure that there is no hip your Samba but there is hip in this Samba. They are NOT trying to dance your/Brazil's Samba.
To all idiots posting here this isn't samba cuz the song is danced to what? Salsa? Fools, song isnt important, the RHYTHM is importand in the song. Because of that, there are plenty of songs where you can dance samba OR salsa.
A los que escribieron que "esto no es samba" les comento que si bien originalmenten la canción LA BAMBA no es una samba, estos bailarines están bailando con el estilo de SAMBA. Entonces yo puedo tomar una canción de Lady Gaga y bailarla con el estilo JAZZ, así como puedo tomar un tango y bailarlo utilizando zapatillas de punta como las bailarinas de ballet.
ola qu etal soy de mexico !!!!!!!!!!!! saludos bailan bien pero no me llegan jajjajajajajajaj es broma quiero bailar como ustedes son mejores que eslavyk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, I know it is not a Brazilian Samba, but it is strange to see a man shaking hips...In a Brazilian Samba, who has to be sensual is the woman. Man, dance samba with his feet, it is called "samba no pé." Woman, when dances, shakes her hips.
It's always the Brazilians, they can't read the description of the video where it is clearly stated "International Ballroom" Samba which is a variation of the Brazilian samba. It's their national dance hence their attack on any dance with samba in the name that's not their own. To all aficionados of ballroom style dancing, I think the best way to respond to their comments is to thumb it down, trying to reason with them will not work. SO START THUMBING THEM DOWN AND NO MORE REPLYING TO THEM.
@IX19UT8O Lol... Not all Brazilians I'm aware of this style of Samba, or is that because I didn't grow up in Brazil? I agree with you with being quick to attack other variations of the dance, that's what I don't understand because Brazilians have done it themselves with Zouk which originates from the french caribbean. They've taken someone elses national dance & created there own variation which looks nothing like it and still calling it Zouk. Don't thumb me down ha
Now we see this kind of things, people that don´t know what samba is dancing a music that is not samba and calling it for samba. To excuse this atrocity, they say that it is a latin samba. There is no latin samba! As there is no Brazilian salsa!
for the start this isn't a saba music and the guy does all the great moves!! he moves the hips better than the girl...what the hell is this honestly??
@iheartiker I didn't finish it, but you wouldn't expect of a INTERNATIONAL BALLROOM CONTEST or whatever the hell was this to have good dancers?? or at least that they knew what they where dancing
I know this is ballroom samba, but it is extremely wierd to see samba danced to la bamba? Even for me, a Mexican married to a Brazilian. lol it is just bizarre....
Because here in Veracruz, Mexico we have this same music with this same lyrics and rithm. And it is a traditional SON JAROCHO which is tipical folkloric dance from Veracruz (I actually dance it). I really have this doubt because This port is quite old. Actuallyit has the characteristic rymes that "SONES JAROCHOS" have. Can someone tell me please?
@jcet6 no, it´s not a brazilian music. What happens here is that in international balroom contests people dances all kind of music and call this bizarr things for samba. The great brazilians that dance real balroom samba never were consulted to say what is a real samba before they started to dance on those contests and invent rules for something that is not samba.
No, it's not your brazilian samba that they're dancing... Just like I said before, in ballroom dancing they've created new styles based on traditional dances, but just because it's not your brazilian dancing, doesn't mean you can't appreciate it... And if you do a little research you'll see that ballroom dances are practiced all over the world, which should tell you something... Don't be that selfish about YOUR dance... Nobody is trying to copy you...
People, this is not the traditional Samba. This is Ballroom Samba. It is only normal for it not to look like the regular one.
I am no pro, but I guess ballroom dances have more of a studied/routined aspect to them as opposed to their more spontaneous traditionnal counterparts.
@RereCosta its international latin style samba not Brazilian samba ....these are to completely different things dont be too quick to judge broaden your mind ...yes international style samba originated from the brazilian routes .....but it is a variation and now completely different
@philipxhsmx completely different therefore NOT A SAMBA! you guys should rename it, since its a completely different dance. mention that it has roots in samba all you want, but dont claim it as samba
@maxrowley Lol i watch a samba video, first comment i read is "That's not samba!" i quickly change video to this one, first comment i read "Now that's samba!".
Magadeathbauru... I'm pretty sure that these guys know more about "Brazilian Samba", than you do about International Samba, because at least they know what they're dancing... but you... you don't even know how what international ballroom samba is... which btw is danced worldwide, with numerous competions all over the world....and in DANCING there is no such thing as plain "Samba"! Either it's Samba de Gafieira, Samba no Pé or International Samba...
@TulipaBallerina seriouslly, thats not samba, its not even close, im from rio the birth place of samba, if they dance like that in brazil and say its samba, people will think they are on some kind of drugs.
And still there are people commenting negatively towards this being Samba...!!! Come on! Ballroom Samba originated from different brazilian rythms, but a new style was created, and can be danced to various music styles, not only samba, because what counts is the rythm..! I'm an argentine tango dancer, and just like Ballroom Samba is very different from Samba de Gafieira, Ballroom Tango is also VERY different, and I still respect both. There is plenty of room for different styles of dancing...!
In the next Gafieira video, a "slow Gafieira" is danced until 02:30, when it becomes the "fast Gafieria". I guess international ballroom samba used the moves of the slow one, due to their similarity:
watch?v=8x-8nXw96YM
Since international ballroom samba don't use acrobatics and it's a sport, it's got competitions and a system of rules, thus maybe that explains why it's been becoming different from Gafieira, thru the decades.
For the occasional curious persons, the video below is the original ballroom samba danced in Brazil since the 1800's. It's called "Samba de Gafieira" and it is the possible brazilian samba style that inspired the european creators of the international ballroom samba:
watch?v=akoW_IyVqhE
In Brazil, samba is a "umbrella word" that actually represents a group of dances which share the same root. Other examples of sambas are "Samba de Partido Alto", "Samba Canção", "Samba de Roda" and "Pagode".
I don't know much about the story of Intl. Ballroom Samba, but what you say really does make sense. It really looks more similar to Maxixe than Gafieira.
I watched the video below and identified some moves that can be associated to the ones that are present on Intl. Ballroom Samba:
As the title states this is "not" the"Brazilian" samba. This is the "International" samba, a different interpretation of the samba. I love this dance, it's beautiful, the dancers are beautiful and the dancing is beautiful. In the end it is the only thing that matters.
@IX19UT8O You are definitely up in arm about something. sampayu seems quite polite in his/her speech. It is in his/her opinion that current International Ballroom Samba is far removed from the original. It has evolved tremendously over the past 2 decades maybe one day it will look complete foreign to ballroom dancers of the 21st century. Who knows :P. I just don't see sampayu trying to take away the name "samba" from International Ballroom Samba.
@seravi: Up in arms? Keep the drama out. I'm just tired of Brazilians like “sampayu” insisting that we ballroom dancers should not use the word samba in our interpretation of the dance. This is exactly what sampayu stated, go back and read his “quite polite” ramblings. Sampayu should be rejoicing that the Samba has gone international with different interpretations. Instead, it’s provincial whining.
Since it came first (Brazil, ~1830's), by the 1930's Samba was already internationally known and had a ballroom style called GAFIEIRA.
Then, by the 1940's the french came to Brazil, took notes (possibly about the Gafieira Samba), took these notes to Europe and created International Ballroom Samba using them. Thus, one day International Ballroom Samba in fact might have been very similar to Samba (Gafieira, possibly). But nowadays it looks too different from Samba, and that's my point.
People have the right to agree or disagree with my OPINION. I'm not saying that my OPINION is "the facts". No, it's just my opinion. But, of course, I am using historical facts to give foundation to my opinion, and it is at least very intriguing how my opinion looks so similar to the opinion of so many other thousands of brazilians. Shouldn't the NOWADAYS International Ballroom Samba look (to me) too different from the original Samba danced in Brazil, my opinion wouldn't be that.
PS: Bantu is a group of native peoples of central and southern Africa. Starting in the 1500's, many Bantu slaves were brought from Africa to Brazil. As time passed, their culture (including Batuque) mixed with some particular cultural elements (like Semba) of the angolan slaves, and still with some portuguese dance and music, resulting on what we call "Samba" – which, in turn, nowadays is a brazilian "umbrella term" that actually describes a group of related music and dance styles.
@sampayu: You write so much and say so little. Samba has its origin in Africa. We don't care what you Brazilians say. Look at the title of this video, is Brazilian in it? "NO". We don't want to copy your samba we have a better way to do it. We don't go to your videos and insult the Brazilians. We changed the dance to fit us like you changed it to fit you. Accept the difference because we're not changing. Now, go away, we don't want any more of your shit. We've been insulted enough.
Well, other brazilians might have insulted people here but I didn't do it and I'm just arguing. At this moment, you are the one insulting and being unpolite, here. You are making generalizations and being simplistic.
If you drop your weapons and use your reason while you read my comments, you'll realize that I'm just arguing with reasonable and verifiable information. Do a research about Semba, Maxixe, Lundu etc. and see for yourself. I've just tried to dialogue and share information.
@sampayu: You write a whole rambling dissertation just to say this ballroom dance is not samba because it's different from the way it's done in Brazil. Now you call my response weapons, and your "ramblings" reason? You think I would state my argument without checking facts? "NOT" Other Brazilians might have been insulting and not you???? YOU ALL ARE INSULTING. GO AWAY.
You seem to be ignorant about this subject and talking to you seems to be a waste of time. But there's plenty of material about the history of Samba. For instance, you can read the book ISBN 8571108978 (in portuguese) or go to the website of the brazilian Ministry of Culture (Google "minc cultura") and you'll see that Samba has the status of BRAZILIAN CULTURAL PATRIMONY.
Wikipedia has an article in english about Samba, too.
But if you prefer to remain in the darkness, well: be happy.
I know many links to sources of research, but most of them are written in portuguese, since Samba is brazilian and in Brazil we speak portuguese.
Although I doubt that you really want to know the truth (or that you even know portuguese), you can also read about Samba at the Life123 website, search for "samba (dance)" at the Britannica Encyclopedia, search for "samba brazil" at the Defense dot Gov website, and so on...
But if you still prefer to remain in darkness, well: be happy. [2]
The main difference that we can note here is that in Brazil the names of the original dances weren't kept: Semba became Samba, Tango became Maxixe... Accidentally or not, when we (brazilians) created our personal (new, thus different, yet similar) version of other cultures' dances, we gave different names to these new cultural forms created by us. However, although international ballroom samba looks too different from Samba (at least for any brazilian), it carries "Samba" on it's name. Get it?
Differently from some mistaken comments that I've read here (from both "sides": brazilians and non-brazilians), my comment is based on a personal research that I made, some years ago. The reason Semba came to Brazil and became Samba rises from the fact that in Brazil the Semba mixed mostly with Lundu (a african-portuguese dance that already existed in Brazil), Maxixe (a brazilian version of the argentinian Tango) and Batuque (a tribal dance, very common in the african Bantu of the 1500's).
I am brazilian and I don't think that this dance is ugly, neither easy. As a matter of fact I have no reason to dislike the dance itself. However, I think that the use of the word "Samba" to name this ballroom dance style was really innapropriate, because this ballroom style looks too different from it's root, which is the Samba danced in Brazil.
Yet, Samba isn't african: Samba is brazilian. It was born in Brazil and it was originated mainly from an african dance named Semba.
@sampayu To add to your discussion: it is astonishing how much Intl. Ballroom dances has changed over the last few decades. Intl. Ballroom Samba in the 90s already have a different feel and Int. Ballroom Samba in the 70s ... might start a revolution in Brazil. At the rate that it is changing, I agree that it is hard to accept that this dance is Samba. In the end, however, the name is carried along. Dances change and that's just the way it is. Born as a John, die as a John.
@seravi: When the samba dance left Brazil it would naturally evolve into something different even though the "basic" name remained the same, it's the natural flow of things. To establish a difference between the "Brazilian" samba and the evolved samba we add a different adjective to it, like "International" samba. This is what "sampuya" and those like him cannot accept. Instead of celebrating the beauty of the various differences, they take the hard line provincial position. That's unfortunate.
Agree. I guess that it happened maybe 'cos while in Brazil we don't practice Samba as a sport (we just dance it and preserve it like a patrimony), it evolves in a slower manner.
In the other hand, International Ballroom Samba is a dance sport, thus it has to be dynamic, evolve and change constantly, incorporating new elements and changing actual others. Innovativeness helps the couples to achieve better notes in competitions and thus might explain these changes, too. Who knows...
@sampayu: I'm happy to see you used the term "International Ballroom Samba". This is a complete change from your early position when you stated "the use of the word "Samba" to name this ballroom dance style was really inappropriate, because this ballroom style looks too different from its root”. Thanks for coming around to what we have been saying all along. This is not your Brazilian samba, it's the international form of the samba. Most, except for many Brazilians here, recognize that.
@sampayu: And after we leave here, it's an absolutely certainty that other Brazilians will come here and make the same silly argument that "this is not the samba" because it is does not look like the samba done in Brazil. I hope you will remain international and convince them otherwise.
@IX19UT8O I was watching some videos of "international ballroom samba" with the name "Samba" and I didn't understand, I discovered it now after I have commented in the videos: This is not samba ... and bla bla bla .... but now I understood! It's another type of samba (international) ! Hihihih :D
@IX19UT8O Brazilian samba is way better. The man in this internatinal samba seems too feminine. The brazilian samba is sexy and the man does not dance the same way as the gril. And the arms don't shake so much...it's weird.
Please try and stop analysing movement. You're obviously not very good at it. Otherwise you'd realise that the arm movement is in direct relation to the movement of the sides which is in direct relation of shifting weight. There's no much arm shaking because brazilian samba's movement is on a very simplistic level. It's like comparing advanced algebra to that of the first grade mathemathics.
there both awsome only they show more of the man than of the woman
adriploma1 4 days ago
This sounds like cumbia to me.
jdjfausto 2 weeks ago
Does anyone know who sings this version of La Bamba? Thanks.
1602mez 1 month ago
@1602mez Catarina Valente & Edmundo Ros
moviegirl611 1 week ago
Look up "Quenia Ribeiro." She does REAL samba. Samba from rio ( samba no pe) samba from Bahia. This is not it.
MsDNA100 2 months ago
@MsDNA100 I actually looked up several of her videos and I don't see how this isn't very similar to what she was doing.
rexbreed 3 weeks ago
This is not samba.
MsDNA100 2 months ago
samba is the name from my horse
amiroe1 2 months ago
are people actually still going on about this !!! it is actually called International SAMBA.but people in the business call it samba for short .cos it uses elements of brazilian samba it is inspired by the culture not trying to insult it intentionally and this is a show dance using elements of international samba.out it is branching out again so don't blame the dancers this decision to call it samba was made long before these amazing performers were born Lets just marvel at there talent please x
philipxhsmx 2 months ago 2
@philipxhsmx Very accurately and succinctly said!
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philipxhsmx 1 month ago
what's the name of this song ???
005but 3 months ago
Ah!!!
Beautiful! :-)
gizeleandre 3 months ago
I'm brazilian and I didn't know there was variation of brazilian dance...very nice, I LIKED IT...what a shame my english........
dejota2991 4 months ago 2
I understand that this is international samba, but I also understand people getting upset over it being called samba. Samba is originally from Brazil, why couldn't they choose a different name for it? Like Intesamba, whatever, but why samba? that is not creative. I would get upset if they called Cumbia or Vallenato a music with a totally different sound. Or what if they decided to call this International Trance? Or Rock? Metal? I think if they mess with your own culture you would understand
lvergara87 4 months ago
It's like the Brittish saying we don't speak English because of the accent :-) Who do you think you are saying what's samba or not? Why don't you just become a world champion and tell us what a real samba should be :-)
cheesyfun 4 months ago
@cheesyfun until someone messes with your culture you won't understand. Is like the British people getting upset at Americans calling their queen "Queen of England" instead of "Queen of Britain" and I have seen that on youtube!!! It is not right to take the name from a type of music from a country and give it to something different (no matter how many roots it has on samba)... why don't we name this international English Ballad instead? Become a world champion too and be empathetic to culture.
lvergara87 4 months ago
@lvergara87 Understandable. Being upset as someone else mess with your culture is understandable. However, the comments made by the people on youtube are not helping it. Look for any Samba videos and you'd see comments among the line of "This is not Samba! This is like ... Salsa!" I then LOLed and move on with my life.
seravi 4 months ago
@lvergara87 Understandable. Being upset as someone else mess with your culture is understandable. However, the comments made by the people on youtube are not helping it. Look for any Samba videos and you'd see comments among the line of "This is not Samba! This is like ... Salsa!" I then LOLed and move on with my life.
seravi 4 months ago
@seravi Yes, you're right on that one too. It's not like this is something critical, yet I feel it is kind of wrong to have named this samba, because it really isn't... it does sound more like salsa though :P
lvergara87 3 months ago
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cheesyfun 4 months ago
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cheesyfun 4 months ago
Who sings the song? Its super cute!!
kjmrx300 5 months ago
IMPRESIONANTE!!
nikkotu 5 months ago
I love the beginning when bryan is dancing solo!
LatinDanceRevolutior 5 months ago
IS THE ROBOT GO TO DANCE?
flirtwing 6 months ago
Not to offend anyone, but there's so much more artistry & skill required in the international style samba.
sagisli 6 months ago
@sagisli but that isnt what samba is about! thats what makes this not a samba. samba is about being free and having a good time! and musically it takes as much artistry and skill to compose sambas
anonymous10001000 4 months ago
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rexbreed 3 months ago
my hero's
PFreeDancer 6 months ago
hey I just wanted to commend you, you are great dancers and Samba is a beautiful dance. Greetings from Tanzbear15
Tanzbaer15 6 months ago
Es samba de Ballroom, que no es igual a la Brasilera antes de comentar negativamente estaría bueno que se informaran correctamente, eso si es samba!!! y de una exquisita!!!
mysticker10 6 months ago
What the fuck, it was never samba ............
leobabilonia2008 6 months ago
Oh, I love them <3 ;)
btw. does anyone know the song's name?
MissLittleLady1993 6 months ago
This international Samba it is completely different than the actual Brazilian Samba dont get the two mixed up and great performance by Bryan Wattson
ryandance4u 6 months ago 8
@ryandance4u THANK YOU A VOICE OF REASON !!! :-)
philipxhsmx 2 months ago
Que manera de destrozar uno de los sones mas bonitos que tiene México y que es como un himno en veracruz. Aparte que, de samba los monos no bailaron nada.
MendozaVintage 7 months ago
サンバでいいジャマイカ。
HeuristicFox 7 months ago
@philipxhsmx What made me furious is not the style of dancing, the performance,it is more the fact that they 'name' samba a dance which is performed in completely other rythms than Samba, i speak about 'rythme' not dance..because Samba is firstofall a rythme. We can have different salsa, rumba for ex mais O samba is only One!! special rythme, witch comes from Brazil!! a so peculiar rythme!!Also I've never heard for ex a rock band without guitar!! did you imagine dançar valsa on rock rythme?
nidream 7 months ago
@nidream
"did you imagine dançar valsa on rock rythme?"
... has been done.
AceyBlade 5 months ago
@anonymous10001000 well it is international style and we're not gonna change it ...and why are u soo bothered these guys are amazing dancers at this style its not there fault that ..that somebody decided to call this rhythm if u don't like it dont comment they were 7 times undefeated world champions what the hell have u won
philipxhsmx 7 months ago
@anonymous1000100 and if u dont agree or dont like it dont watch and dont comment ...and get a life ..rather than having an aneurism over your tube vids ...sad existence
philipxhsmx 7 months ago
@philipxhsmx sad originality....... i only comment because i hate seeing my vibrant culture destroyed by arrogant people......
anonymous10001000 4 months ago
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rexbreed 3 months ago
@anonymous10001000 The only way have a culture is to keep it growing and improving. If you like Brazilian Samba why don't you try to work on making it better? Make it more appealing and more people will find interest and want it. If you think there's something wrong with that then you're the arrogant one. Why should we find interest in something that people won't work for? People with a chip on their sholders destroy more than anyone else especially their own ideals.
rexbreed 3 months ago
@anonymous10001000 The only way to have a culture is to keep it growing and improving. If you like Brazilian Samba why don't you just try to make it better? Make it more appealing and more people will find interest and want it. If you think there's something wrong with that then you're the arrogant one. Why should we find interest in something that people won't work for? People with a chip on their sholders destroy more than anyone else.
rexbreed 3 months ago 2
@rexbreed i do love my samba, and i dont expect everyone else to love my samba. But I just wish people would respect my cultural heritage/traditions by not naming their dance samba.......
anonymous10001000 3 months ago
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Where is Samba rythme? they call the danse 'samba', but it s wrong!!! married to a Brazilian, i'm very furious!!! IT IS NO O SAMBA ! Even more, Brasil is the only country of south America speaking portuguese and not Spanish!!!
nidream 7 months ago
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Where is Samba rythme? they call the danse 'samba', but it s wrong!!! married to a Brazilian, i'm very furious!!! IT IS NO O SAMBA ! Even more, Brasil is the only country of south America speaking portuguese and not Spanish!!!
nidream 7 months ago
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Where is Samba rythme? they call the danse 'samba', but it s wrong!!! married to a Brazilian, i'm very furious!!! IT IS NO O SAMBA ! Even more, Brasil is the only country of south America speaking portuguese and not Spanish!!!
nidream 7 months ago
Where is Samba rythme? they call the danse 'samba', but it s wrong!!! married to a Brazilian, i'm very furious!!! IT IS NO O SAMBA ! Even more, Brasil is the only country of south America speaking portuguese and not Spanish!!!
nidream 7 months ago
@nidream its international samba style dont be offended these are amazing dancers and its not there fault they didnt call this style the samba get over it
philipxhsmx 7 months ago
When I started dancing in the UK in the 50s we used to dance the Brazilian Samba which was very fast and exciting. Then the dance teachers got togetherin the mid 50s and decided to go for a slower version of the dance and refered to it as the Samba.
I found it far to slow.A good example of th faster version is in the music called Soul Limbo
tlwalker1000 7 months ago
People should not take the name of the culture of another country for inventing things and selling!
The culture of Brazil is very strong and they use it to sell a lie!
They should change the name so they could sell internationally and do not use the name of the country's culture of others!
I have friends Colombians, Cubans, Peruvians ...
and they say that they do it with the "Salsa", with the culture of their country!
le0liveira 8 months ago
@le0liveira THIS IS THE SAMBA, NOT SOME BRAZILIAN BUTT SHAKING!! HAHAHAHA
krasofka1107 7 months ago
@krasofka1107 finally someone gets it right on !!!!!!!!! thank u x
philipxhsmx 7 months ago
@le0liveira Well what about Brazilians taking Zouk which is a dance that originates from the French Caribbean? It looks nothing like Zouk, but yet still calling it Zouk. Isn't that taking something from another culture & using it to sell a lie? I'm sure the people of Martinique & Guadelope would agree. There are many different styles, variations of many dances. In case you missed my name I am Brazilian, more important things in life to be complaining about dances.
BrasilenaMami 7 months ago
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@BrasilenaMami brazil dont have zouk competitions
Samba that we dance in pairs is called "Samba de Gafieira" and 100% brazilian.
These others dance styles that you see at international events (or competitions) are not THE Samba... well... not what we know as Samba.
They call it International Ballroom Samba or either "International Standard Samba" and even the songs aren't Samba songs... the brazilian style, and rhythm are beautiful and we would love to see it at international competitions!
omgVirgeMaria 7 months ago
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@BrasilenaMami
brazil dont have zouk competitions
Samba that we dance in pairs is called "Samba de Gafieira" and 100% brazilian.
These others dance styles that you see at international events (or competitions) are not THE Samba... well... not what we know as Samba.
They call it International Ballroom Samba or either "International Standard Samba" and even the songs aren't Samba songs... the brazilian style, and rhythm are beautiful and we would love to see it at international competitions!
omgVirgeMaria 7 months ago
@BrasilenaMami. I agree with you. Some Brazilian mistakenly call the Lambazouk of Zouk ... it is also wrong! But one mistake does not admit the another!
le0liveira 6 months ago
What you say is that samba is a "latin america dance called "samba" ... this word originated in Brazil.
Samba in the "ballroom dancing"is "Samba Gafieira" or samba in Avenue is "SAMBA NO PÉ"
le0liveira 8 months ago
This is false! The dance appears somewhere in the world and then transforms
its Samba originated in Brazil from African slaves and he has influence of the "Maxixe".
Samba is part of Brazilian culture.
Nobody can get the localized name of America ... latin ... Samba ...
and say it something else.
Samba is a word that originated in Brazil. Brazil is a country that is part of Latin America.
le0liveira 8 months ago
@le0liveira Evolution of language. There's nothing you can do about it.
seravi 7 months ago
Brazilian is better and has more flavor...Hate how they used Bamba, La Bamba has a lot of history behind it. Its a bit insulting.
ucsb1989 8 months ago
it's so gay... really, ahuuahuaa, but it's culture, ok
moluscoguitar 8 months ago
Well done :-D good job, and nice footwork;-)
MyNiko1993 8 months ago
I am Brazilian and latin, I live in Rio de Janeiro
This is a shame for the dancers that they did not search for what is samba!
Who does not know samba should research and study the culture of each people.
You should study about samba, you should look for "Samba 3 performance" or "Samba No Pe" on youtube!
The translate "latin Ballroom Samba" is "samba de gafiera"
People do not know what is samba but uses the image of Brazilian culture to make money, they sell a lie!
le0liveira 8 months ago
@le0liveira Samba de Gafieira is a name of a partner dance in Brazil. How could it be the translation of "Latin Ballroom Samba"? It is understandable that "ballroom Samba" in Brazil refers to Samba de Gafieira; however, in the international scenes, "International Latin America Samba" refers to the dance being danced in the video above. The two are very very loose connected. Sure that there is no hip your Samba but there is hip in this Samba. They are NOT trying to dance your/Brazil's Samba.
seravi 8 months ago
I am Brazilian and latin, I live in Rio de Janeiro
This is a shame for the dancers that they did not search for what is samba!
Who does not know samba should research and study the culture of each people.
You should study about samba, you should look for "Samba 3 performance" or "Samba No Pe" on youtube!
This is the "gaff samba" in Rio de Janeiro! True!
Swing the hip is not samba, samba is on foot ... not in hip
The translate "latin Ballroom Samba" is "samba de gafiera"
le0liveira 8 months ago
To all idiots posting here this isn't samba cuz the song is danced to what? Salsa? Fools, song isnt important, the RHYTHM is importand in the song. Because of that, there are plenty of songs where you can dance samba OR salsa.
heavypeki 8 months ago
A los que escribieron que "esto no es samba" les comento que si bien originalmenten la canción LA BAMBA no es una samba, estos bailarines están bailando con el estilo de SAMBA. Entonces yo puedo tomar una canción de Lady Gaga y bailarla con el estilo JAZZ, así como puedo tomar un tango y bailarlo utilizando zapatillas de punta como las bailarinas de ballet.
Un saludo desde Paraguay.
neumansky 8 months ago
ola qu etal soy de mexico !!!!!!!!!!!! saludos bailan bien pero no me llegan jajjajajajajajaj es broma quiero bailar como ustedes son mejores que eslavyk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9ajjk 8 months ago
that aint samba !! D: its a mexican song.....la bamba and its normally danced at veracruz
msanchez10491 8 months ago
cool :-)
chelseafax1 8 months ago
whats the name of this song?
101rafia 9 months ago
¿Quien dijo que eso es samba? Eso no es Samba, es una cancion mexicana que se llama BAMBA no Samba
marladive1965 9 months ago
Well, I know it is not a Brazilian Samba, but it is strange to see a man shaking hips...In a Brazilian Samba, who has to be sensual is the woman. Man, dance samba with his feet, it is called "samba no pé." Woman, when dances, shakes her hips.
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Lupy5 9 months ago
It's always the Brazilians, they can't read the description of the video where it is clearly stated "International Ballroom" Samba which is a variation of the Brazilian samba. It's their national dance hence their attack on any dance with samba in the name that's not their own. To all aficionados of ballroom style dancing, I think the best way to respond to their comments is to thumb it down, trying to reason with them will not work. SO START THUMBING THEM DOWN AND NO MORE REPLYING TO THEM.
IX19UT8O 9 months ago
@IX19UT8O Lol... Not all Brazilians I'm aware of this style of Samba, or is that because I didn't grow up in Brazil? I agree with you with being quick to attack other variations of the dance, that's what I don't understand because Brazilians have done it themselves with Zouk which originates from the french caribbean. They've taken someone elses national dance & created there own variation which looks nothing like it and still calling it Zouk. Don't thumb me down ha
BrasilenaMami 8 months ago
cuando los trajes de ritmos latinos al menos cubrian algo del cuerpo de las mujeres :P
laurao0o 9 months ago
Now we see this kind of things, people that don´t know what samba is dancing a music that is not samba and calling it for samba. To excuse this atrocity, they say that it is a latin samba. There is no latin samba! As there is no Brazilian salsa!
GiselleMartine 9 months ago
for the start this isn't a saba music and the guy does all the great moves!! he moves the hips better than the girl...what the hell is this honestly??
girlzexy007 9 months ago
@girlzexy007 if you don't like it than do not watch it.
iheartiker 9 months ago
@iheartiker I didn't finish it, but you wouldn't expect of a INTERNATIONAL BALLROOM CONTEST or whatever the hell was this to have good dancers?? or at least that they knew what they where dancing
girlzexy007 9 months ago
I know this is ballroom samba, but it is extremely wierd to see samba danced to la bamba? Even for me, a Mexican married to a Brazilian. lol it is just bizarre....
restradify 9 months ago 2
wow!
latindancerme 10 months ago
estoes sones jarochooosssssssssssssssss no samba ni rumbaaaaaaaa
escojan mejor las canciones
darmaceleste 10 months ago
La bamaba is originally from Brazil?
Because here in Veracruz, Mexico we have this same music with this same lyrics and rithm. And it is a traditional SON JAROCHO which is tipical folkloric dance from Veracruz (I actually dance it). I really have this doubt because This port is quite old. Actuallyit has the characteristic rymes that "SONES JAROCHOS" have. Can someone tell me please?
jcet6 10 months ago
@jcet6 no, it´s not a brazilian music. What happens here is that in international balroom contests people dances all kind of music and call this bizarr things for samba. The great brazilians that dance real balroom samba never were consulted to say what is a real samba before they started to dance on those contests and invent rules for something that is not samba.
GiselleMartine 9 months ago
@letrascarol wtf?! oh my gosh it's NOT rumba!
This -> /watch?v=C5z4ulk3RR8 is a rumba! a rumba is characterized by its slow pace (25 bpm). it's a lovestory.
so now - was that like a lovestory?!
KrasnyeRozy 10 months ago
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danimartins88 10 months ago
Who sings this version of La Bamba?
iheartiker 10 months ago
whats song?
heelknight159 10 months ago
I understand the difference between Brasil Samba and Ballroom Samba,
but i must say that these kind of Ballrom Samba sounds like Rumba.
Brazilian Samba is so much better, rhythmic and exciting!
danimartins88 10 months ago
@danimartins88
Rhythmically sure, but movement wise Brazilian samba is boring as hell to watch.
AceyBlade 10 months ago
@AceyBlade well, i dont think so, but i respect ur opinion
danimartins88 10 months ago
@danimartins88
Well, apples to oranges. :)
AceyBlade 10 months ago
@AceyBlade =]
danimartins88 10 months ago
No, it's not your brazilian samba that they're dancing... Just like I said before, in ballroom dancing they've created new styles based on traditional dances, but just because it's not your brazilian dancing, doesn't mean you can't appreciate it... And if you do a little research you'll see that ballroom dances are practiced all over the world, which should tell you something... Don't be that selfish about YOUR dance... Nobody is trying to copy you...
TulipaBallerina 10 months ago
samba? what the hell is this? even the song wasnt samba, international ballroom samba fucking sucks
nay76 10 months ago
definitely not samba, if this is samba then i guess hip hop is the same as reggae..
because that definitely makes sense.......
anonymous10001000 11 months ago
They are both superb dancers in anyone's book,so much technical nitpicking and grumbling. The knockers should get up and try to do better.
maxrowley 11 months ago
He's Much better then her!
Lollylou09 11 months ago
People, this is not the traditional Samba. This is Ballroom Samba. It is only normal for it not to look like the regular one.
I am no pro, but I guess ballroom dances have more of a studied/routined aspect to them as opposed to their more spontaneous traditionnal counterparts.
safaaxrp77 11 months ago
@safaaxrp77
You're right. International latin heavily emphasises technique over music.
AceyBlade 10 months ago
LoL ...
this is not samba!
gisacruz82 11 months ago
This is called lack of profissionalism. They don't searched what samba is.
SuperPoly85 11 months ago
OMFG !! What was THAT ?!! COOOOOOL !! =D
b1gflick 11 months ago
Sorry this is Salsa, not Samba. No way...
Pejcb 11 months ago
this is not samba here or in china my right ...
I am Brazilian and I can say that what they're dancing samba is not ...
jujubagstricolorp 11 months ago
I am Brazilian and I did not like the way they interpreted the samba.
This is not like samba.
I was born listening to samba, and I particularly did not like ..... but we all have different opinions.
RereCosta 11 months ago
@RereCosta its international latin style samba not Brazilian samba ....these are to completely different things dont be too quick to judge broaden your mind ...yes international style samba originated from the brazilian routes .....but it is a variation and now completely different
philipxhsmx 11 months ago 26
@philipxhsmx completely different therefore NOT A SAMBA! you guys should rename it, since its a completely different dance. mention that it has roots in samba all you want, but dont claim it as samba
anonymous10001000 7 months ago
@RereCosta
"baah waah a lot of things happened that I didn't understand and they didn't play original music baah waah"
Well, at least you didn't scream blasphemy and murder. I'll give you points for that. :)
AceyBlade 11 months ago
Now that's a Samba!
maxrowley 1 year ago 20
@maxrowley Lol i watch a samba video, first comment i read is "That's not samba!" i quickly change video to this one, first comment i read "Now that's samba!".
RememberRox 11 months ago
The music is by Caterina Valente and Edmundo Ros and his orchestra.
ChristopherSyn1 1 year ago
moito bom gostei
magnolmb 1 year ago
PERFECTION PERSONIFIED!!!!!
1960janey 1 year ago 3
He in particular is fabulous! This was fun to watch.
RockinRondaD 1 year ago 3
He's put on alot of weight since he retired. He was incredible here though.
oreo2725 1 year ago
who sings this version of La Bamba?? please!!!
DANCERSONY 1 year ago
"these guys have no idea of what samba is" ISSO NAO É SAMBA!
raquelbolinha 1 year ago
WHAT A KNOCKOUT!!!
FreakyRadu 1 year ago
"these guys have no idea of what samba is"
Magadeathbauru... I'm pretty sure that these guys know more about "Brazilian Samba", than you do about International Samba, because at least they know what they're dancing... but you... you don't even know how what international ballroom samba is... which btw is danced worldwide, with numerous competions all over the world....and in DANCING there is no such thing as plain "Samba"! Either it's Samba de Gafieira, Samba no Pé or International Samba...
TulipaBallerina 1 year ago
@TulipaBallerina seriouslly, thats not samba, its not even close, im from rio the birth place of samba, if they dance like that in brazil and say its samba, people will think they are on some kind of drugs.
nay76 10 months ago
@nay76 look.... this is modern EUROPE samba and its for competitions... every body in europe dance like this
latin3331 10 months ago
And still there are people commenting negatively towards this being Samba...!!! Come on! Ballroom Samba originated from different brazilian rythms, but a new style was created, and can be danced to various music styles, not only samba, because what counts is the rythm..! I'm an argentine tango dancer, and just like Ballroom Samba is very different from Samba de Gafieira, Ballroom Tango is also VERY different, and I still respect both. There is plenty of room for different styles of dancing...!
TulipaBallerina 1 year ago 2
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blackinton100 1 year ago
@blackinton100 It's a custom.
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miluszka62 1 year ago
the bamba is different fromt he samba dance, this is not samba WTF ¡¡
ricky3diaz 1 year ago
these guys have no idea of what samba is
megadeathbauru 1 year ago
@megadeathbauru And you don't know how to read the 900 previous comments ^_^
seravi 1 year ago
There are over 57 different Samba beats in Brazil and La Bamba certainly isn't one of them !
patrol681 1 year ago
@patrol681
Yet it matches the tempo and beat pattern of an international samba. That's all that we require. Try to get over it.
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tilleypete4 1 year ago
labamba isn't sambaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,oh my god
simonybarreto 1 year ago
See a authentically brazilian samba de gafieira typing "bruno e crys chorinho"
Vejam o samba de gafieira autentico digitando "bruno e crys chorinho"
brfranchi 1 year ago
More Samba de Gafieira:
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In the next Gafieira video, a "slow Gafieira" is danced until 02:30, when it becomes the "fast Gafieria". I guess international ballroom samba used the moves of the slow one, due to their similarity:
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Since international ballroom samba don't use acrobatics and it's a sport, it's got competitions and a system of rules, thus maybe that explains why it's been becoming different from Gafieira, thru the decades.
sampayu 1 year ago
For the occasional curious persons, the video below is the original ballroom samba danced in Brazil since the 1800's. It's called "Samba de Gafieira" and it is the possible brazilian samba style that inspired the european creators of the international ballroom samba:
watch?v=akoW_IyVqhE
In Brazil, samba is a "umbrella word" that actually represents a group of dances which share the same root. Other examples of sambas are "Samba de Partido Alto", "Samba Canção", "Samba de Roda" and "Pagode".
sampayu 1 year ago
@sampayu Intl. Ballroom Samba most likely originated from Maxixe rather than Samba de Gafieira.
seravi 1 year ago
@seravi
Mmm...
I don't know much about the story of Intl. Ballroom Samba, but what you say really does make sense. It really looks more similar to Maxixe than Gafieira.
I watched the video below and identified some moves that can be associated to the ones that are present on Intl. Ballroom Samba:
watch?v=e7cZQFlVfzs&t=138s
Well, I guess the mistery is solved, at last...
sampayu 1 year ago
they are perfect!
zukolover666 1 year ago
As the title states this is "not" the"Brazilian" samba. This is the "International" samba, a different interpretation of the samba. I love this dance, it's beautiful, the dancers are beautiful and the dancing is beautiful. In the end it is the only thing that matters.
IX19UT8O 1 year ago
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seravi 1 year ago
Sampayu people are just very ignorant sometimes, I quiet like your explanation so thanks for the history lesson. :-)
missjmoraes 1 year ago
@missjmoraes: Do your own checking of "history" instead of accepting someone else's explanation blindly. Only the very ignorant do what you do.
IX19UT8O 1 year ago
@IX19UT8O You are definitely up in arm about something. sampayu seems quite polite in his/her speech. It is in his/her opinion that current International Ballroom Samba is far removed from the original. It has evolved tremendously over the past 2 decades maybe one day it will look complete foreign to ballroom dancers of the 21st century. Who knows :P. I just don't see sampayu trying to take away the name "samba" from International Ballroom Samba.
seravi 1 year ago
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IX19UT8O 1 year ago
@seravi: Up in arms? Keep the drama out. I'm just tired of Brazilians like “sampayu” insisting that we ballroom dancers should not use the word samba in our interpretation of the dance. This is exactly what sampayu stated, go back and read his “quite polite” ramblings. Sampayu should be rejoicing that the Samba has gone international with different interpretations. Instead, it’s provincial whining.
IX19UT8O 1 year ago
@IX19UT8O
Since it came first (Brazil, ~1830's), by the 1930's Samba was already internationally known and had a ballroom style called GAFIEIRA.
Then, by the 1940's the french came to Brazil, took notes (possibly about the Gafieira Samba), took these notes to Europe and created International Ballroom Samba using them. Thus, one day International Ballroom Samba in fact might have been very similar to Samba (Gafieira, possibly). But nowadays it looks too different from Samba, and that's my point.
sampayu 1 year ago
@IX19UT8O
People have the right to agree or disagree with my OPINION. I'm not saying that my OPINION is "the facts". No, it's just my opinion. But, of course, I am using historical facts to give foundation to my opinion, and it is at least very intriguing how my opinion looks so similar to the opinion of so many other thousands of brazilians. Shouldn't the NOWADAYS International Ballroom Samba look (to me) too different from the original Samba danced in Brazil, my opinion wouldn't be that.
sampayu 1 year ago
PS: Bantu is a group of native peoples of central and southern Africa. Starting in the 1500's, many Bantu slaves were brought from Africa to Brazil. As time passed, their culture (including Batuque) mixed with some particular cultural elements (like Semba) of the angolan slaves, and still with some portuguese dance and music, resulting on what we call "Samba" – which, in turn, nowadays is a brazilian "umbrella term" that actually describes a group of related music and dance styles.
sampayu 1 year ago
@sampayu: You write so much and say so little. Samba has its origin in Africa. We don't care what you Brazilians say. Look at the title of this video, is Brazilian in it? "NO". We don't want to copy your samba we have a better way to do it. We don't go to your videos and insult the Brazilians. We changed the dance to fit us like you changed it to fit you. Accept the difference because we're not changing. Now, go away, we don't want any more of your shit. We've been insulted enough.
IX19UT8O 1 year ago
@IX19UT8O
Well, other brazilians might have insulted people here but I didn't do it and I'm just arguing. At this moment, you are the one insulting and being unpolite, here. You are making generalizations and being simplistic.
If you drop your weapons and use your reason while you read my comments, you'll realize that I'm just arguing with reasonable and verifiable information. Do a research about Semba, Maxixe, Lundu etc. and see for yourself. I've just tried to dialogue and share information.
sampayu 1 year ago
@sampayu: You write a whole rambling dissertation just to say this ballroom dance is not samba because it's different from the way it's done in Brazil. Now you call my response weapons, and your "ramblings" reason? You think I would state my argument without checking facts? "NOT" Other Brazilians might have been insulting and not you???? YOU ALL ARE INSULTING. GO AWAY.
IX19UT8O 1 year ago
@IX19UT8O
You seem to be ignorant about this subject and talking to you seems to be a waste of time. But there's plenty of material about the history of Samba. For instance, you can read the book ISBN 8571108978 (in portuguese) or go to the website of the brazilian Ministry of Culture (Google "minc cultura") and you'll see that Samba has the status of BRAZILIAN CULTURAL PATRIMONY.
Wikipedia has an article in english about Samba, too.
But if you prefer to remain in the darkness, well: be happy.
sampayu 1 year ago
@IX19UT8O
I know many links to sources of research, but most of them are written in portuguese, since Samba is brazilian and in Brazil we speak portuguese.
Although I doubt that you really want to know the truth (or that you even know portuguese), you can also read about Samba at the Life123 website, search for "samba (dance)" at the Britannica Encyclopedia, search for "samba brazil" at the Defense dot Gov website, and so on...
But if you still prefer to remain in darkness, well: be happy. [2]
sampayu 1 year ago
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IX19UT8O 1 year ago
@sampayu: And when you leave, take all the other freaking Brazilians with you. You people are the worst.
IX19UT8O 1 year ago
The main difference that we can note here is that in Brazil the names of the original dances weren't kept: Semba became Samba, Tango became Maxixe... Accidentally or not, when we (brazilians) created our personal (new, thus different, yet similar) version of other cultures' dances, we gave different names to these new cultural forms created by us. However, although international ballroom samba looks too different from Samba (at least for any brazilian), it carries "Samba" on it's name. Get it?
sampayu 1 year ago
Differently from some mistaken comments that I've read here (from both "sides": brazilians and non-brazilians), my comment is based on a personal research that I made, some years ago. The reason Semba came to Brazil and became Samba rises from the fact that in Brazil the Semba mixed mostly with Lundu (a african-portuguese dance that already existed in Brazil), Maxixe (a brazilian version of the argentinian Tango) and Batuque (a tribal dance, very common in the african Bantu of the 1500's).
sampayu 1 year ago
I am brazilian and I don't think that this dance is ugly, neither easy. As a matter of fact I have no reason to dislike the dance itself. However, I think that the use of the word "Samba" to name this ballroom dance style was really innapropriate, because this ballroom style looks too different from it's root, which is the Samba danced in Brazil.
Yet, Samba isn't african: Samba is brazilian. It was born in Brazil and it was originated mainly from an african dance named Semba.
sampayu 1 year ago
@sampayu To add to your discussion: it is astonishing how much Intl. Ballroom dances has changed over the last few decades. Intl. Ballroom Samba in the 90s already have a different feel and Int. Ballroom Samba in the 70s ... might start a revolution in Brazil. At the rate that it is changing, I agree that it is hard to accept that this dance is Samba. In the end, however, the name is carried along. Dances change and that's just the way it is. Born as a John, die as a John.
seravi 1 year ago
@seravi: When the samba dance left Brazil it would naturally evolve into something different even though the "basic" name remained the same, it's the natural flow of things. To establish a difference between the "Brazilian" samba and the evolved samba we add a different adjective to it, like "International" samba. This is what "sampuya" and those like him cannot accept. Instead of celebrating the beauty of the various differences, they take the hard line provincial position. That's unfortunate.
IX19UT8O 1 year ago
@seravi
Agree. I guess that it happened maybe 'cos while in Brazil we don't practice Samba as a sport (we just dance it and preserve it like a patrimony), it evolves in a slower manner.
In the other hand, International Ballroom Samba is a dance sport, thus it has to be dynamic, evolve and change constantly, incorporating new elements and changing actual others. Innovativeness helps the couples to achieve better notes in competitions and thus might explain these changes, too. Who knows...
sampayu 1 year ago
@sampayu: I'm happy to see you used the term "International Ballroom Samba". This is a complete change from your early position when you stated "the use of the word "Samba" to name this ballroom dance style was really inappropriate, because this ballroom style looks too different from its root”. Thanks for coming around to what we have been saying all along. This is not your Brazilian samba, it's the international form of the samba. Most, except for many Brazilians here, recognize that.
IX19UT8O 1 year ago
@sampayu: And after we leave here, it's an absolutely certainty that other Brazilians will come here and make the same silly argument that "this is not the samba" because it is does not look like the samba done in Brazil. I hope you will remain international and convince them otherwise.
IX19UT8O 1 year ago
@IX19UT8O I was watching some videos of "international ballroom samba" with the name "Samba" and I didn't understand, I discovered it now after I have commented in the videos: This is not samba ... and bla bla bla .... but now I understood! It's another type of samba (international) ! Hihihih :D
BSBcty 1 year ago
@IX19UT8O Brazilian samba is way better. The man in this internatinal samba seems too feminine. The brazilian samba is sexy and the man does not dance the same way as the gril. And the arms don't shake so much...it's weird.
raphaelllaraujo 1 year ago
@raphaelllaraujo
Please try and stop analysing movement. You're obviously not very good at it. Otherwise you'd realise that the arm movement is in direct relation to the movement of the sides which is in direct relation of shifting weight. There's no much arm shaking because brazilian samba's movement is on a very simplistic level. It's like comparing advanced algebra to that of the first grade mathemathics.
AceyBlade 1 year ago