It seems she has no respect for his views! I say that the man is right. Religion has halted development because it is MAN MADE. The Bible has been translated to such a degree that entire words have been altered. If the Bible was easily translated there would not be such a thing as Alpha courses. Alpha courses are not 'the word' but an interpretation of 'the word'. Sadly many Christian teachings are Zionist & pro-Israel based & they create in people a feeling of pompous superiority.
This Dawkins character really is something. He sits there stating ALL the facts when he actually does not have the answer to a meaningful life or not even one piece of hard evidence to back up his theories. Absolute arrogance in the extreme.
@MrUAV100 but when you compare evolution to creationism, there are more evidence for evolution compared to creationism. And besides, majority (~95%) of scientific community accepts evolution. Scientists are the experts in this field. You can trust your own mind all you want, but in the end, i'm putting my money where the bright minds are. Besides, there are a lot of scientists who believe in evolution and God. Evolution doesn’t disprove nor prove God, it only contradicts creationism.
I feel like I deal with this creationist bullshit everywhere I go... they take offense to their own scriptures... that displays the most ignorance... picking pieces to fit the puzzle of their lives while leaving the negative things that go along with it behind.
@MsGnorts look at sweeden.....85% atheist..nice place with low crime and high education........now look up the countries with 0% atheisim. look pretty scary to me. can you find a 0% atheist country that looks good to you? do you believe in zeus? well, how is that not "bad scientific method" by "dismissing something that YOU dont understand". HOW ABOUT THE THOUSAND OTHER GODS THAT YOU DONT BELIEVE IN? there is just as much evidence that they were right. belief +evidence=knowledge... evidence?
@MsGnorts look at sweeden.....85% atheist..nice place with low crime and high education........now look up the countries with 0% atheisim. look pretty scary to me. can you find a 0% atheist country that looks good to you? do you believe in zeus? well, how is that not "bad scientific method" by dismissing something that YOU dont understand. HOW ABOUT THE THOUSAND OTHER GODS THAT YOU DONT BELIEVE IN? there is just as much evidence that they were right. belief +evidence=knowledge... evidence?
@JASONNHENCHMENN I also want to add that i mean you no disrespect. i just disagree with you. ideas are made to be criticized, but i feel that it is morally wrong to disrespect other people. you ask what would jesus do, i ask what is the most benificial action that i can take in a situation that will benifit the most involved people. my purpose is a better world for my kids than was here for me. i am far from empty. bigot: a person who is intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
@JASONNHENCHMENN why do you believe that?......MEN have told you that. that is the only reason. had a human being never told you of christ, how would you know about him?
@JASONNHENCHMENN yeah.....the world was a much better place when people followed the bible to the letter. when your kid backtalks, do you stone him to death? god commands it. and how do you have a computer? jesus was very clear on getting rid of all of you possesions.
@mrtadreamer the weavers didnt refer to the people who couldnt see the emperors new clothes as fools for no reason either. the reason is the same.....to keep the scam going. i can site fiction to prove my point too.
What is admirable about what God did for us? John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
The word "perish" in this verse refers to separation from Him in hell. That's what's admirable about it. If Mr Dawkins understood that, maybe he wouldn't be so quick to trample the Blood of the Son of God underfoot.
LMAO! It's 2011 and people still have a debate about the DUSTY OLD YELLOW PAPERED Holy Bible. More and more people will eventually outgrow this just like some of us outgrew that there is a Santa Claus.
@asiandawn69 What?! Isn´t Santa Claus real? That is absurd. And you sir, are even more absurd than your statement. So I will not take care, thank you very much.
Politicians attack eachother across the house of reps for ACTUAL life altering decisions, yet he explains the ridiculousness of the new testament and it's "Respect people's faith!" . . "That's ridicule!" . . Get over it and realise there is no problem criticising and questioning ANY religion, Christianity, Islam, Judiasm, Voodoo, Norse gods, Greek gods, Santa, Tooth fairy, sober Irishmen, they are all rubbish.
@JASONNHENCHMENN im sure if our leaders were omnipotent and omniscient they would probably do a damn better job than god is doing right now. god supposedly has all these great powers at his disposal yet instead of just forgiving sins he has to offer a blood sacrifice. but because hes all powerful his sacrifice wasnt really a sacrifice because he was never gonna die anyway. its like some1 diving on a bomb to save the some children knowing the bomb was a dud and then patting himself on the back.
@MsGnorts and actually i might have a problem with hinduism i take that back because i'm not sure what it teaches but as far as i know now i don't think it teaches that ur in risk of eternal hell or that it is vital that u convert people to ur point of view and i dont think the vedas have anything that discourages proper science..
if someone wants to stand around praying for help from a being they have no proof exists than fine by me just dont say he made up rules for us to follow
@MsGnorts well im not saying religion is the only problem.. religion is a tool.. just like a hammer or gun.. it is how it is used that makes it bad or good.. and i think the way many religions dogma are today is a problem.. i have a problem with the supporters of the abrahamic religions dogmas because i believe they are psychologocally damaging and troubling.. i dont have a problem with taoism or daoism or hinduism on the other hand..
@MsGnorts and not to knock on christmas but I wish people could get off their sense of duty enough so that they could celebrate a holiday without having to make it about their special deity.. The holidays should be a time of sharing and celebrating but instead, thanks to religious dogmas, all the religions will be crowding around their mangers and monorahs and whatever the muslims gather around worshiping beliefs that are completely incompatible with each other.
@MsGnorts Yes yes I agree to that, the power thing. I don't recall Hitchens saying anything like that but I'm not entirely familiar with his work.. I'm not intolerant at all. I actually am kind of a agnostic theist myself.. What I am intolerant of is religion trying to persecute me for thinking their religion is stupid, which happens alot. I do not appreciate all the fools who cause so much ignorance, destruction and hatred because of their beliefs in religion.
@MsGnorts I've even asked God for signs on a small scale.. Like 3 pimples on specifically asked places on my head to signify if I should believe and support the Bible or not.. That's not asking for much..
I agree it'd be bad science to dismiss something just because we can't be sure of it.. I don't think there is any good reason at this moment to believe that there is good evidence for the idea that the Bible is God's message to mankind or that anyone is in danger of going to Hell...
@MsGnorts ya i don't dismiss the idea of a god that would like me to pray to him and is pretty powerful. I meditate and pray to "God" all the time. But I also think that if I was in trouble of some terrible non-healable disaster he'd help me out. I'd easily re-become a Christian any time if, while i was in the company of one of my agnostic friends(just so i could be sure it wasn't a trick or halluciantion) an angel appeared to me and told me to believe in or handed me a bible.. I'd believe 4ever
@MsGnorts Jesus is just Zues 2.0.. Supersticion for the modern age.. We are no different from all the societies that worshiped Apollo and Thor and everything else.. That was only 2000 years ago. We haven't evolved that much since then.. The idea that God would send you to hell for acting out how he made your personality to react is ridiculous and psychologically damaging.. I believe there might be a God (and I pray to him plenty) but any religioun that preaches eternal hell is stupid straight up
@MsGnorts I know people who are from communist china, never heard of God until they came to college in america, and were taught simply natural explanations for morality and the origins of everything.. They are some of the happiest people I know and completely fine without religion.. In fact they think Christianty is wierd and I have to agree. I was a pretty hardcore christian until i was about 23.. It's just silly.. God send you to Hell forever if u blah blah blah?? But he loves you.. LOLOLOLOLO
Why would anyone want to believe in crazy jewish fairy tales that says God is vengeful and jealous and commanded his chosen jews to mass murder and enslave gentiles.? Or murder every Egyptian first born child? The list is long of the jew god's atrocities in the Old Testament.
who are ths idiotic australians invited to speak on that panel? get germaine greer on here or someone with half a brain cell. jesus, lucas neil or stephanie rice would even do.
When the goddists feel uncomfortable with reason they can't counter they always claim persecution by rationalists. For all of history, including now, it is reason and rational thought that has been in peril by persecution by religious. Almost all of our public policies, laws and regulations are at their core based on religious dogma that does not account for people who have another view. We atheists have just started to fight back in a mild manner and the god-freaks are crying foul.
It seems she has no respect for his views! I say that the man is right. Religion has halted development because it is MAN MADE. The Bible has been translated to such a degree that entire words have been altered. If the Bible was easily translated there would not be such a thing as Alpha courses. Alpha courses are not 'the word' but an interpretation of 'the word'. Sadly many Christian teachings are Zionist & pro-Israel based & they create in people a feeling of pompous superiority.
JillAngie2 2 months ago
I just love how he gets nervous and starts shaking. What an old fart :-!
Theboxer500 2 months ago
Tony Burke, thanks for speaking up. I admire you very much.
zanighthawkf117 5 months ago
@zanighthawkf117 Yeah , thanks for gagging logical and rational thought tony. Cos he's threatened by it.
jimmybillabong 3 months ago
And further, I with Mr Bourke would stop spitting all over people when he does - get some speech therapy as it only adds to how ridiculous you sound.
dborg321 6 months ago
Ive just discovered this absolute moron Burke. What a pelican.
dborg321 6 months ago
religion is foolishness faith is reason
scar504 7 months ago
This Dawkins character really is something. He sits there stating ALL the facts when he actually does not have the answer to a meaningful life or not even one piece of hard evidence to back up his theories. Absolute arrogance in the extreme.
MrUAV100 8 months ago
@MrUAV100 but when you compare evolution to creationism, there are more evidence for evolution compared to creationism. And besides, majority (~95%) of scientific community accepts evolution. Scientists are the experts in this field. You can trust your own mind all you want, but in the end, i'm putting my money where the bright minds are. Besides, there are a lot of scientists who believe in evolution and God. Evolution doesn’t disprove nor prove God, it only contradicts creationism.
Casshyr 7 months ago 3
I feel like I deal with this creationist bullshit everywhere I go... they take offense to their own scriptures... that displays the most ignorance... picking pieces to fit the puzzle of their lives while leaving the negative things that go along with it behind.
AkKnowledge 8 months ago
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@MsGnorts look at sweeden.....85% atheist..nice place with low crime and high education........now look up the countries with 0% atheisim. look pretty scary to me. can you find a 0% atheist country that looks good to you? do you believe in zeus? well, how is that not "bad scientific method" by "dismissing something that YOU dont understand". HOW ABOUT THE THOUSAND OTHER GODS THAT YOU DONT BELIEVE IN? there is just as much evidence that they were right. belief +evidence=knowledge... evidence?
SuperAthiest1 10 months ago
@MsGnorts look at sweeden.....85% atheist..nice place with low crime and high education........now look up the countries with 0% atheisim. look pretty scary to me. can you find a 0% atheist country that looks good to you? do you believe in zeus? well, how is that not "bad scientific method" by dismissing something that YOU dont understand. HOW ABOUT THE THOUSAND OTHER GODS THAT YOU DONT BELIEVE IN? there is just as much evidence that they were right. belief +evidence=knowledge... evidence?
SuperAthiest1 10 months ago
@JASONNHENCHMENN I also want to add that i mean you no disrespect. i just disagree with you. ideas are made to be criticized, but i feel that it is morally wrong to disrespect other people. you ask what would jesus do, i ask what is the most benificial action that i can take in a situation that will benifit the most involved people. my purpose is a better world for my kids than was here for me. i am far from empty. bigot: a person who is intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
SuperAthiest1 10 months ago
@JASONNHENCHMENN why do you believe that?......MEN have told you that. that is the only reason. had a human being never told you of christ, how would you know about him?
SuperAthiest1 10 months ago
@JASONNHENCHMENN yeah.....the world was a much better place when people followed the bible to the letter. when your kid backtalks, do you stone him to death? god commands it. and how do you have a computer? jesus was very clear on getting rid of all of you possesions.
SuperAthiest1 10 months ago
The Bible doesn't refer to atheists like Mr Dawkins as "fools" for no reason.
mrtadreamer 11 months ago
@mrtadreamer the weavers didnt refer to the people who couldnt see the emperors new clothes as fools for no reason either. the reason is the same.....to keep the scam going. i can site fiction to prove my point too.
SuperAthiest1 10 months ago
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What is admirable about what God did for us? John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
The word "perish" in this verse refers to separation from Him in hell. That's what's admirable about it. If Mr Dawkins understood that, maybe he wouldn't be so quick to trample the Blood of the Son of God underfoot.
mrtadreamer 11 months ago
Dawkins is an fool
gerinja 11 months ago
LMAO! It's 2011 and people still have a debate about the DUSTY OLD YELLOW PAPERED Holy Bible. More and more people will eventually outgrow this just like some of us outgrew that there is a Santa Claus.
Take Care!
asiandawn69 1 year ago 9
@asiandawn69 What?! Isn´t Santa Claus real? That is absurd. And you sir, are even more absurd than your statement. So I will not take care, thank you very much.
haksjo 3 months ago
1.59 Richard is uncomfortable?
jonflatmo 1 year ago
Politicians attack eachother across the house of reps for ACTUAL life altering decisions, yet he explains the ridiculousness of the new testament and it's "Respect people's faith!" . . "That's ridicule!" . . Get over it and realise there is no problem criticising and questioning ANY religion, Christianity, Islam, Judiasm, Voodoo, Norse gods, Greek gods, Santa, Tooth fairy, sober Irishmen, they are all rubbish.
jackiejackie44 1 year ago
@JASONNHENCHMENN im sure if our leaders were omnipotent and omniscient they would probably do a damn better job than god is doing right now. god supposedly has all these great powers at his disposal yet instead of just forgiving sins he has to offer a blood sacrifice. but because hes all powerful his sacrifice wasnt really a sacrifice because he was never gonna die anyway. its like some1 diving on a bomb to save the some children knowing the bomb was a dud and then patting himself on the back.
tommos1 1 year ago
Julie Bishop wants everyone to get along and hug and kiss. what a delusional bitch and what the fuck is she doing there if her opinion is so naive.
qotsaandsoadfan1 1 year ago
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qotsaandsoadfan1 1 year ago
@MsGnorts ;D
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@MsGnorts and actually i might have a problem with hinduism i take that back because i'm not sure what it teaches but as far as i know now i don't think it teaches that ur in risk of eternal hell or that it is vital that u convert people to ur point of view and i dont think the vedas have anything that discourages proper science..
if someone wants to stand around praying for help from a being they have no proof exists than fine by me just dont say he made up rules for us to follow
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@MsGnorts well im not saying religion is the only problem.. religion is a tool.. just like a hammer or gun.. it is how it is used that makes it bad or good.. and i think the way many religions dogma are today is a problem.. i have a problem with the supporters of the abrahamic religions dogmas because i believe they are psychologocally damaging and troubling.. i dont have a problem with taoism or daoism or hinduism on the other hand..
do u have a religios belief??
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@MsGnorts and just party and have fun instead ;)
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@MsGnorts i dunno I really just wish everyone could get along and stop fighting and arguing..
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@MsGnorts and not to knock on christmas but I wish people could get off their sense of duty enough so that they could celebrate a holiday without having to make it about their special deity.. The holidays should be a time of sharing and celebrating but instead, thanks to religious dogmas, all the religions will be crowding around their mangers and monorahs and whatever the muslims gather around worshiping beliefs that are completely incompatible with each other.
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@MsGnorts Yes yes I agree to that, the power thing. I don't recall Hitchens saying anything like that but I'm not entirely familiar with his work.. I'm not intolerant at all. I actually am kind of a agnostic theist myself.. What I am intolerant of is religion trying to persecute me for thinking their religion is stupid, which happens alot. I do not appreciate all the fools who cause so much ignorance, destruction and hatred because of their beliefs in religion.
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@MsGnorts especially because i ask for help all the time... One day I might stop praying but I can't see that day being anytime soon
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@MsGnorts im still investigating the matter tho so i'm sure if God wants us all to become christians than I'll figure that out
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@MsGnorts I've even asked God for signs on a small scale.. Like 3 pimples on specifically asked places on my head to signify if I should believe and support the Bible or not.. That's not asking for much..
I agree it'd be bad science to dismiss something just because we can't be sure of it.. I don't think there is any good reason at this moment to believe that there is good evidence for the idea that the Bible is God's message to mankind or that anyone is in danger of going to Hell...
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@MsGnorts ya i don't dismiss the idea of a god that would like me to pray to him and is pretty powerful. I meditate and pray to "God" all the time. But I also think that if I was in trouble of some terrible non-healable disaster he'd help me out. I'd easily re-become a Christian any time if, while i was in the company of one of my agnostic friends(just so i could be sure it wasn't a trick or halluciantion) an angel appeared to me and told me to believe in or handed me a bible.. I'd believe 4ever
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@MsGnorts Jesus is just Zues 2.0.. Supersticion for the modern age.. We are no different from all the societies that worshiped Apollo and Thor and everything else.. That was only 2000 years ago. We haven't evolved that much since then.. The idea that God would send you to hell for acting out how he made your personality to react is ridiculous and psychologically damaging.. I believe there might be a God (and I pray to him plenty) but any religioun that preaches eternal hell is stupid straight up
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@MsGnorts I know people who are from communist china, never heard of God until they came to college in america, and were taught simply natural explanations for morality and the origins of everything.. They are some of the happiest people I know and completely fine without religion.. In fact they think Christianty is wierd and I have to agree. I was a pretty hardcore christian until i was about 23.. It's just silly.. God send you to Hell forever if u blah blah blah?? But he loves you.. LOLOLOLOLO
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
haha religious people got their panties in a twist??? right? right???
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
Why would anyone want to believe in crazy jewish fairy tales that says God is vengeful and jealous and commanded his chosen jews to mass murder and enslave gentiles.? Or murder every Egyptian first born child? The list is long of the jew god's atrocities in the Old Testament.
theseventhprotocol 1 year ago
A good rule is not to trust people that want 10% of your income.
bettyboop392 1 year ago
who are ths idiotic australians invited to speak on that panel? get germaine greer on here or someone with half a brain cell. jesus, lucas neil or stephanie rice would even do.
Lukeeeeo 1 year ago
When the goddists feel uncomfortable with reason they can't counter they always claim persecution by rationalists. For all of history, including now, it is reason and rational thought that has been in peril by persecution by religious. Almost all of our public policies, laws and regulations are at their core based on religious dogma that does not account for people who have another view. We atheists have just started to fight back in a mild manner and the god-freaks are crying foul.
km6xz 1 year ago
Ha-H christians are aschame of there own religion.
Of course all religions are crazy and people knows that.
they all know bible is a crazy shit for morons
ferkelbuch1 1 year ago
Burke fails, ad hominem attack ..
elvigia666 1 year ago
"PEOPLE SHOULD RESPECT OTHER PEOPLES VIEWS"
How can people go around saying this? How can a person reach physical maturity and still be going around parroting this crap?
salamirterra 1 year ago
Biblebashers just love completely sidestepping anything that puts their fairytales in a bad light. Pathetic.
findusfunk 1 year ago