False Teachers use Hypnosis via Music Against Christians

[Jugivadi]

You make a good point. You are presuming I haven't found God because I don't believe in praying to him to cure illness or provide wealth, or to confer some special benefit to me that he is not willing to grant to anyone else. I want God to make the world a safe place for all of his children. For some reason he is completely unwilling to comply. I'm through asking and I'm not going to some phony healer to be gamed.

[julieturcios41]

After healing,go and sin no more,

"Stop sinning lest something worst happen to you"

[julieturcios41]

If you believe you have been healed by God, it's ok and recommended that you go to your doctor and get examined, this is your testimony to those who don't believe, and to test the spirits. It's biblical, even Jesus sent those whom He had healed to the elders.

[EmBeesWeb]

If u r a believer then God hears your prayers wherever u r so u don't need to go anywhere to ask God to heal u. Either he will now, or sometime later - even if later means when u get a new body in heaven. He may do it instantly, amazingly, or thru many chemo treatments, pills, surgery, etc. Y go to a guy & pay him or a convention ctr. to b hit or act like a toddler in a fit on the floor? Plus, throughout history the devil's helped "magicians" perform false "miracles" so ppl will listen to them!

[robvlob]

Keeping the mindset that all faith healers are frauds you will likely be right more often than not probably 100% of the time.

People fall victim to these snake oil salesmen all the time faith is a powerful tool they use to gain credibility. When magicians preform their illusions which can be far more elaborate than those of a faith healer most people are not convinced it is really magic, yet buy into these less elaborate tricks in the name of faith sometimes fatally(use faith instead medical)

[SharonTaylorOnline]

TRUTH!

[Deloa7Armando]

Well, i have seen miracles that were instantly such as swollen feet instant, tumors fall off, blind instantly healed. So, many doctors are silly but again there are many false faith healers.

[regalo1979]

I believe that many christians are really stubborn. They don't like to hear warnings even from concerned believers on false teachers and false prophets. They always take it against the person telling the warning. As christians, we must accept that we will be warned by fellow believers if we on the wrong direction. Isn't it?

To all believers out there, DONT TAKE OFFENSE if a brother or sister in Christ warns you, rather consider it and search the truth through God's living Word, the Bible.

[teresahen]

Yes, I am learng about this charismatic protestant minister this is a trip I have decided to come out of the church for good. I dont like the Charismatic teaching. I was looking at the doctrine of the Church of God. Which this minister @ my church is a member of the there doctrine is crazy. The devil has set up his false churches oh no not me.

[ruthelator]

"You are all sons of the light and sons of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be alert and self-controlled. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet." God's word to believers via Paul in 1 Thessalonians 5:5-8

[frankielee77]

Manufacturing atmosphere?Hypnosis?Why don't tell us you are are just making theories out of nowhere?

If those guys use Hypnosis to such extent surely it is the greatest Hypnosis our world had ever known.

[BearBarton53]

You give those guys too much credit young man. They learn how to get people emotionally charged. Any snake oil salesman can learn that trick. They know nothing of endorphines. All they know is that if they get the momentum going one way, they can keep it going that way with little effort. God still heals and God loves people enough to even use dishonest faith healers. Keep your eyes on God and you'll know God's love personally.

[ShadowSea666]

kill yourself

[BearBarton53]

@ShadowSea666 - done. life is hidden with Christ. Baptized into his death but also raised to new life by His blood. Wanna live forever in paradise???

[ShadowSea666]

@BearBarton53 hell no eternal vacation would be boring as hell O_O im going to valhalla motherf*cker

[lashkei]

Good video. I personally know God still heals as He did my wife of endometriosis but it was God who did it without anyones help. I too think that music is the single most used form of mind control. I was a musician in several churches and we knew how to work a crowd. I have left the organized church and serve God in the freedom he intended without religion and He is awesome!

[winningsouls4christ]

This is true, thank you for this post

[skweeza169]

true christian faith isn't an entertainment industry like we see in this clip, people get so into these charismatic experiences that they can believe they are being guided by the holy spirit when satan is doing the guiding.....fact.

[kennysandiso99]

@skweeza169 FULLY SUPPORTED!

[JRock005]

OMG. I've been saying this ever since I was a kid.

I always thought music during the altar call at church was wrong. Because it causes people to be drawn through emotion not by the holy spirit...

[kefka46tx]

christian music sucks anyway

[Apologist117]

Evangelical music isn't Christian. Byzantine, Greek and Russian chanting is Christian music.

[skweeza169]

Faith healers are nothing more than false prophets and master hypnotists, eg, BENNY HINN.

[order57]

ma va a cagare

[777denny]

Beware of the false teachers that teach the false Gospel and false Jesus of the 'once saved always saved' heresy Movement popularized John Calvin the murderer. These same false teachers also teach the new heresy that Christians will be 'raptured' BEFORE the Great Tribulation Period begins, even though Jesus Himself said that there would be a great falling away and the man of perdition would be revealed FIRST. Do the first commandment so that you can accomplish the second one. Don't be deceived.

[2tires]

These guys are Word of Faith believers, not Christians. They pervert and adultrate the Word so bad that their Jesus is not the same Jesus as described in the bible. They got a spoken word "from God" out of someones mouth, "Thus saith the Lord" and failing to compare it to see if it agrees with the written Word they simple beleive it. Foolish foolish them. Because they say to not beleive is to be judgemental. But the bible says to discern/test the spirits to see whether they be of God.

[RPM11111]

Thank you.

[cholotara]

Those who market "signs & wonders" can't produce the goods. They are unable to actually perform miracles and supernatural healing. So they then resort to outright deception, or more subtley, they call natural healing, coincidences, and other natural phenomena "miraculous". They pray for healing of a paper cut, and then pronounce it miraculous.

They are pagans, magicians, psychics. Not Christians.

[iconoclast911]

They also use the technique of telling stories of how they prayed for some person in africa or somewhere, and that the person grew a new limb, or was raised from the dead

on the stage. No names or photos or verification of any kind given. No way for anyone in the audience to verify

anything, but the gullible christian congregations think that the speaker must be truly of God, and they give him credibility and large donations. They flat out make up, or totally exaggerate for effect.

[iconoclast911]

God doesn't do miracles whenever he is called upon, like some kind of genie in a bottle. Real miracles are very rare, if ever, and no believer should ever "expect" one. God will help us deal with our situations and problems, but he will not suspend the laws of the universe just to make a person well. Jesus indicated that a person's faith(belief) changed their reality. Our thoughts do affect our reality, but we need to keep it real, and not put our faith in any healer or healing service.

[JBrocksmysocks1000]

A healer or a healing service is based on faith in God not the healer or healing service. God looks at the hearts of men and who has been obediant to Him.

[iconoclast911]

"A healer or a healing service is based on faith in God"

This is the idea that is presented as the justification for their existence, but do you not understand that traditionally these services are rife with fraudulent "miracles", the use of shills and plants, the use of remote electronic communication devices (ear pieces),people in wheel chairs that don't need wheel chairs, bogus made up stories, stories non biblical practices, unsound teaching, manifestations of demonic influences

ungodly

[kennysandiso99]

@iconoclast911 AMEN!

[Deloa7Armando]

@cholotara Well, i understand your doubt, but i am a walking miracle. And God has not failed me from healing me many times.

[Jugivadi]

@Deloa7Armando Wonder why you have had so many illnesses that needed miraculous healing? Why doesn't god just protect you from these maladies in the first place? I'm told that he could do that ya know. Sounds like he doesn't like you very much. So much needless suffering. If I had infinate power, I would never let you get sick. I'd protect you.

[DanielDn333]

@Jugivadi .. Its funny, u know, when a fisherman went to the ocean, in a stormy nite, and came back with a big fish without rejoicing . Humans nowadays ain't that thankful anymore.. they need some kind of thingy to make them truly understand the meaning of rejoice.. Actually, illness is a kind of way to teach human to find God.. Even you, yourself ain't gonna find God till you get leukemia or something .

[vidonweb]

Not everyone who believes in prayer, laying on of hands, AND THAT JESUS HEALS TODAY is a fake or cultist. Look, I can't stand Hinn and many others, but after over 35 years of being saved, lots of good ministers pray for the sick and miracles happen. Maybe people who don't believe in miracles but claim to believe in the bible are out for your money, fakes or cult leaders! Now, I don't believe that but maybe you'll see how being branded like that is insane.

[FToniS]

vidonweb - I agree with you. Praying for someone who is sick and asking for prayer if you are sick is part of Biblical Christian living. James 5:13-15 talks about that. And James 5:16-20 speaks about confession, repentance and the power of pray of the righteous. :)

Good video, though. A lot of "healing" testimonies are just testimonies of pain relief through genuine joy or mass hypnosis.

[remorodz]

Christ is not comming back!christ is a myth and a hoax!

[MyGodIsEternal]

Your excellent grammar really backs up your point. You're quite mistaken, and I won't argue with you. If you end up trampling on the blood of Christ, there won't be anyone to save you---not your buddies, not your culture, not your religion of atheism. I pray God reaches out to you, friend. End of our discussion.

[remorodz]

So you think something is wrong with my grammar?You are a moron,This blood of christ is bullshit and your buddies must be a bunch of pussies.you can pray all you want but nobody is listening!!1

[MyGodIsEternal]

I was being facetious because you're being rude, hateful. Don't bother to comment unless you want to do something besides vent your anger at life on this message board. I will not respond to anymore of your disgusting messages.

[rockyrockpretty]

lol than how do you explain the gift of speaking in tongues? Wait, you can't :(

[eqwel]

Speaking in tongues is not always of God. Don't laugh. Satan can speak in tongues. Speaking in tongues is very dangerous if not spoken accurately according to the teaching of God. In pentacostal churches, the speak in tongues with no translators found in sight. And it is to be spoken under only one condition. It is to edify the church. Means prophecying and someone must translate. If ever speak in tongues no translator,how do you know it's not satan is doing it?

[rockyrockpretty]

Wrong. Speaking in tongues of fire is from God. Only God knows what is being said. God gives each person their own language that is perfect for them and that the devil cannot understand. Tongues of fire drives the devil away. Praying in tounges is very powerful and brings us closer to God.

[TheologicalStudies]

The tongues spoken in Pentecost were actual languages that other people there recognized. It was not some made up babble.

What you are stating is not supported by scripture.

You are to resist the devil as stated in scripture.

The church in Corinth emphasized tongues and they were an immature church.

You don't need to pray in tongues to be closer to God.

[iconoclast911]

Biblical tongues was a gift given to the apostles to be able to preach to peoples of different languages, so that they could understand the gospel message. Paul teaches that if someone speaks in "tongues" in a meeting, an interpretation of the foreign language is required.

PS...."tongues of fire", as described in acts, was a physical manifestion

of the holy spirit, that were flames of fire, like on a candle, that appeared

over the heads of the apostles. Gibberish is not biblical tongues at all.

[cholotara]

I think Paul was trying to grow his church in Corinth and so put up with weird pagan practices that the Corinthians had commonly practiced before their conversion. He tells them it's fine to love those gifts but use them to edify the church yada yada. Glossolalia is not Biblical Tongues.

[SweetSoundOfGrace]

right.

good to know that there is a genuine side of this too. that's where the enemy gets interested to interrupt or prevent all he can.

please don't throw out the baby along with the bathwater, for Yahushua did speak of great signs & wonders.

i hope we all develop a good judgment between good and evil spirits, as we should.

Shalom & Love

[MyGodIsEternal]

I agree with this message, but I have also been truly healed in the privacy of my own home. However, I encourage you to stand up against these false teachers---look them up here on YouTube and post comments from God's Word against their lies---Bill Johnson, Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, etc. God bless you for your work in the Kingdom.

[SweetSoundOfGrace]

Amen! (to mygodiseternal)

this means battle for me, now that the full Toronto Blessing /Brownsville Revival thing is coming to my country, the Netherlands. So far it has been good, but i see great danger when they ignorantly promote these false teachers, and they still do.

we are literally being destroyed for lack of knowledge. (Hosea 6:4)

...but it is tough material at times, and we need the Holy Spirit to get us through.

Shalom to you!

[MyGodIsEternal]

You say so far it has been good, but anyone who "welcomes a gospel other than what was originally preached to them shares in their evil deeds", according to Scripture. The pastors who welcome these teachings are risking permanent spiritual blindness and are themselves becoming like these teachers. This is farther reaching than you may know, and I see only the appearance of good work but it is a counterfeit revival. No good fruit will come from a bad tree. Good and bad don't mix.

[godequaljesus]

Jesus performed miracles on both believers and non believers.

[zaothegr8]

yes!

[bnreal800]

nothin wrong with music in church, omg hes reaching

[Duane6891]

Listen well you stupid religious freakS!!!

[VJDTropical]

Oh shup up ( =

[jazhallas]

Deception can only be overcome with truth; not opinion, criticism, judgment, prejudice or hatred. The truth can only be understood by the Holy Spirit for He is the Spirit of truth. Bashing others only makes Christians look judgmental, hateful and weak. No wonder people don´t want to go to church.

[vidonweb]

Son, there has always been music in religious services. Hypnosis? Come on. Yes, there are fakes out there but God does use people to pray and God still works miracles. I notice that you don't know what a faith healer is. You use the term to cover all who pray for the sick. And, you really expose yourself but pulling out the lie that people who believe in prayer stop going to doctors.

This little viseo featues a great deal of deception.

[MyGodIsEternal]

It's fine to make the distinction for us that God still works miracles, but this man is talking only about the people wrapped up in this spiritual blindness cult, not everyone. It seems you support this faith healing cult, too. Hold your tongue if you're not informed, and watch the video again. It's true. These people are out for Christian blood and their money, not to spread a true revival. They're holding Christians captive, like the Pharaoh held the Hebrews. God says, "Let My people go!"

[WaiteDavid137]

So taking your premis, the purpose of music in church is to use music to affect hypnosis against your christian audience. Ok, I already figured that.

[MyGodIsEternal]

No, just in the setting provided by these false teachers. You need to make the distinction---there's a place for true worship and a place for a magic show.

[SweetSoundOfGrace]

exactly!

be blessed for your zeal for truth.

you really hit the mark,

and don't fear of me falling,

i live under the protection of the Most High!

i really do.

a few of my favorite speakers are Paul Washer & Heidi Baker, hope you know them...

[1badassmuthafuka]

i have a question, and i would like all miracle believers to ask themselves this...Why does god forsake amputees???

[rockyrockpretty]

Who said He does? A healer came to our church last year and told the story of a man who lost both his legs to a disease. The healer laid hands on him and nothing happened. But four days later his legs had grown out. Whether you believe that or not is up to you but it really doesn't matter. God can do anything, it faith in him that determines whether you will be healed or keep your healing.

[iconoclast911]

OMG! You are very gullible and naive. Please give me the name of the person who told you that. You probably

do not remember, but if you could ask around and give me his name, I would love to see what this "healer" has to say. If that happened, he should have taken photos of the new legs, gone on Oprah, Larry King, Letterman, TBN, New York Times, but no, just a wild fantastic over the top claim made by a stranger, to a bunch of gullible people, who he knew would never be able to verify.

[JBrocksmysocks1000]

The things of God are too wonderful and great to be put under your humanistic microscope

[iconoclast911]

Right! You will never ever see an amputee get his limbs back at any healing service ever. But they will lie, and make claims that it happened when they were in africa or somewhere very far away. I've heard these liars say that they have raised people from the dead at their healing services, always in very foreign countries. These scum bags are doing these things to fleese the flock, because they know how trusting and gullible these christians are.

[cholotara]

I read John Wimber's seminal theological book, Power Evangelism. In it he reports sorts of factual evidence of miracles. I looked up all of them on Google, all were considered faked and false. This guy even claimed to have stoped Hurricane Diana in 1984. That's a storm easily googled and lot's of data on it. Guess what? Nothing miraculous happened. The storm made a little loop in it's path totally explained by natural phenomena, still hit the US and killed people.

[cholotara]

They have an answer: miracles happen more in Africa because we have a Western Worldview which is wrong. Science, reason, logic are not to be trusted. A Bronze Age worldview is the correct Christian worldview they say.

[Lachance8]

Excellent video! They are setting people up to believe in the anti-christ.

[Tayenet]

It worked for me, I am healed by the word of God. With out any side-effects. I know drugs have very bad side-effects.

[brandynne]

Properity teachers have their eyes fixed on the world rather than on Jesus and that is why you see the fruit of their labour, outwardly adorned with expensive things, always trying to maintain that rich lifestyle, yet the gospel tells us if our eyes are one Jesus we dont need to strive as God will provide and we will be content with little or with much, as the apostle Paul discovered and wrote.

[lvmusicman]

The person who made these videos never pays the royalties to the person who created the intro music

[DamarisSarai]

When we are mesmorized by something invented, we automatically ask the inventor how they did it. The same is w/ God. If a scientist hungers to know more,then seek First the Kingdom of God- The CREATOR and all will be added onto you.

[nailo1]

or they look at the evidence and find out what happen for themselves and nothing automaticly saying it is god

[DamarisSarai]

There is nothing new under the sun that has not already been revealed.If God is the Creator of Everything that exists then He must know every component of everything he ever made.When we seek God, blindness is removed. He allows us to see his Glory. What is His glory? You, me and everything He created.

[DamarisSarai]

My conclusion is this: Yes there are scientific explanations to everything! Absolutely everything. That is only because the greatest Scientist, Designer, Creator knew everything that it took in order for us to function well. Even that chemical release that our brain sends to our body in order to feel better was placed there by HIM because he knew we would need it.

[nailo1]

then y do i as a man have nipples, whats left of a tale and a black hole is slowly sucking in our galaxy

[DamarisSarai]

Yes our bodies can experience something supernatural in a healing service and we can be healed completely or not (God only know what he chooses to do in you). But if there are Christian doctors out there who God gave them the intelligence and the gift of healing don't you think that God as our father delights himself in seeing that his children has seeked His will in their lives so that we can function like He does... Function in his original design.... Function in His image?

[nailo1]

(God only know what he chooses to do in you). i thought god knows everything and the doctors went to school to learn about healing the body they did not get it through a vision or something men gave men the knowledge after god cursed us to suffering for eating the apple

[DamarisSarai]

How far away from that image have we gotten to. God delights in our God given Intelligence. To my understanding the Holy Ghost has the duty to pour down more gifts of God that where taken when man chose to disobey him in Eden. In these gifts the Holy Ghost gives us power, gives us mercy, love, gift of healing, gift of science and so on...

[DamarisSarai]

Yes, Jesus is the Healer but he also wasn't a scandalous preacher that caused so much raucous in a "healing crusade" as we see today in age. Much rather when things began to get noisy he would rebuke and mandated the demons to quiet. It is time for Christians to realize that God made us into His image. An image so Intelligent, Creative, Elegant and so many other things that can go on an on....

[DamarisSarai]

Human kind must learn that God did not make us animals nor did he make us into spiritual beings... He chose to make us HUMANS for a purpose... And as humans we are composed of three parts, spirit, body, and soul...

[nailo1]

if he made us to be humans then y are we so close to monkeys even closer then other species that are cousins but in different areas

[pianokid100]

lol. we are soooooooooooo different . just on the intellectual aspect alone

[VJDTropical]

yeah right ... you wish

[nailo1]

isnt spirit and soul pretty much the same thing

[michaelflat]

There are the two views the spirit. soul and body and just the soul and body(spirit soul same thing or closely related), I think the early church leaned towards just the soul and body but Im not sure thats what I read but I could be wrong

[nailo1]

last time i remember hearing it i hear the body mind and soul spirit was not in there was it put in later

[pianokid100]

there is no debate. man made philosophies have obscured many basic things. Basically soul and spirit are pretty much the same "soul" meaning "breathing creature" and "spirit" meaning "breath" and in most cases, a "soul" reffers to person, and not to a spiritual being that dwells inside, like most modern views. A body can be without a spirit (corpse) when the person isnt alive (not a breathing creature anymore(soul) )

[nailo1]

The soul, according to many religious and philosophical traditions, is the self-aware essence unique to a particular living being

An incorporeal but ubiquitous, non-quantifiable substance or energy present individually in all living things. Unlike the concept of souls, which are by definition eternal and usually believed to preexist the body, a spirit develops and grows as an integral aspect of the living being.

[BIGJOHN805]

Scientists or so called scientists trying to explain away the power of God!! This sure is nothing new. Hebrews 13:8 "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever." Healing is available to those who believe this!! The laying on of hands is biblical...as is being slain in the spirit and speaking in tongues!!

[sole1tom]

As to the "slain in the spirit" Every time people fell backwards they were enemies of God, followers of God Always fell on their face in worship and revrence.

[filoIII]

could you give me verses for these please? backwards and forwards. i'll have to look up what goliath did

[sole1tom]

Sure, here is one to begin with: John 18:6

This is when the men that arrested Jesus in the garden fell backward. :)

[Apolo1002]

WERY GOOD;THANKS GUYS

[2020hidesite]

Keep up this work on braking the lies and deception that has ensnared people that so desperately want to know GOD! They are not the enemy just the lies that have deceived them!

Keep fighting the lie and holding out your hand to those caught in it fangs.

GOD BLESS!

[jeanetteaw]

so far I have never seen a real faith healer...it is disheartening...i believe if we need a miracle from God, he had better ger outselves in a place where we can hear God for ourselves.

[Mark123USA]

I do believe that Christians (some Christians). Could have the gift of healing. But not the way these, charismatics do it, they turn it into a show, just like benny hinn, who makes big bucks, and never heals anyone anyway. Jesus and the apostlles did not make a big show and ask for money if they healed people.

[GlorifyHisHolyname]

Watching this video is like listening to a bunch of nomads in the Saudi desert discussing the intricacies of the Artic Ocean environment! The only problem with that is they've never been to the Artic, seen the Artic Ocean or have never been near an ocean or sea, but yet they sit around the campfire at night convincing themselves they are 'experts'. Science is actually based on observation. Not on what you thought you heard some one say coming 3 months later in your Dr. office.

[IndependentConserv]

Now let me explain, when the Lord did not perform miracles in an area, it had nothing to do with unbelief in him being able to heal, but rather their unbelief that HE IS THE SON OF GOD.

God heals as he wills and you continually avoid that fact that God can decide not to heal some who have faith, because he's showing them HIS GRACE IS SUFFICIENT, 2 Corinthians 12:7-10.

[IndependentConserv]

jazhallas - You should leave those false teachers, stop defending them and read your Bible. You don't want to share their judgment!

Learn some truth at Youtube[.]com/watch?v=uk-J6-uh­A8Y

[IndependentConserv]

Benny Hinn can be found in Matthew 7:21-22.  There you see what Hinn will say to Jesus and what Jesus will say to Hinn.

[jazhallas]

False teachers are known by their fruit. What fruit are you displaying? Love? Joy? Peace? No, I say hate, judgment, criticism, and intolerance. I'm not here to defend Benny Hinn because I don't know him. I do know this though what you teach is wrong. People are not hypnotized through music and healed that's unscriptural.

[IndependentConserv]

Healings come from God and Benny Hinn's father is Satan.

Search and view the YouTube video titled "THE ANOINTING OF BENNY HINN". By one of Hinn's own former members of his assembly.

[jazhallas]

You are treading on dangerous territory when you call anyone from Satan. I'm not here to examine Benny Hinn. I'm here to examine your fruit. You didn't pass. I know what the fruit of the spirit is and I don't see it anywhere. I'll check on Benny later. With the same measure that you have judged you will be judged. This stuff makes God angry. Repent.

[IndependentConserv]

I am more than happy to be judged by God with the same measure I'm calling out Pimp Daddy Benny Hinn and others. Because I'm not the one using their tricks and fooling people like you. But if you are the Lords, one day you will know the truth and reject those false teachers.

[IndependentConserv]

Someone I know who attended one of Benny Hinn's meetings has detailed for me how Hinn used the sound system to have the crowd fall out in his bogus "slain in the spirit" trick. No such thing as that in the Bible. Jesus touched people, they didn't fall backwards.

[jazhallas]

That doesn't even make scientific sense. However falling back is in the bible. John 18:6 "Now when He said to them, "I am He." they drew back and fell to the ground." All that Jesus did was spoke and people fell to the ground. God has by various methods healed people in strange ways. Had them dip in water seven times, spit in the mud, angels stirring water, Paul's handkerchiefs, the apostle's shadow, and the children of Israel looking at a bronze serpent. Strange!

[IndependentConserv]

John 18:6 does not support the junk today that is called "slain in the spirit". Never was a SAINT knocked over backwards. Notice you cited evil doers who went back. In every case within scripture, EVIL DOERS are the ones who fall backwards. Never saints.

[IndependentConserv]

Also, there are many cases where NOTHING was said about the sick person needing "faith" to be healed. How much faith does a dead body need? But Jesus and Paul had dead people raise up in front of them. It is the person praying who needs faith, the sick person just needs to show up and allow the prayer, read Matthew 17:14-21. Anyone who claims somebody is sick due to a lack of faith is LYING. Healing comes as the Lord wills and the person praying is the one who needs real faith.

[jazhallas]

Matthew 8:2 And behold, a leper came and worshiped Him, saying, "Lord, if You are willing, You can make me clean." Then Jesus put out His hand and touched him, saying, "I am willing; be cleansed." Immediately his leprosy was cleansed. God is willing! Matt. 13:58 "Now He did not do many mighty works there because of their unbelief." Mark 5:30 And Jesus, immediately knowing in Himself that power had gone out of Him, turned around in the crowd and said, "Who touched My Clothes?"

[IndependentConserv]

jazhallas - You mistakenly put all blame of someone not being healed on the individual. Because of this mistaken view, I've watched a woman literally die because she claimed she would be healed and bear children. She needed a hysterectomy. She said God told her she would be healed and live in this life longer.

When the apostles healed, no faith on behalf of the sick was noted. See Acts 3, that man had no faith in anything but to get some money.

[jazhallas]

I believe in doctors, I am not opposed to going to see one. People die in hospitals all the time due to malpractice. Acts 8:6,7 And the multitudes with one accord heeded the things spoken by Philip, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did. For unclean spirits, crying with a loud voice, came out of many who were possessed; and many who were paralyzed and lame were healed. Philip was not an apostle.

[IndependentConserv]

Many have seen Benny Hinn, stopped taking medicine and died.

Benny Hinn has never had healings that could be confirmed and unlike Philip, Benny Hinn is a false teacher. (Which is a bigger issue than you realize.) Benny Hinn abuses scripture and tells people they'll be healthy and wealthy if they give him their money.

Nobody in the Bible was NOT healed, then told they lacked faith.

[jazhallas]

Healing comes from God not Benny Hinn! What don't you pray for him. James 4:11-12 Do not speak evil of one another brethren. He who speaks evil of a brother and judges his brother speakes evil of the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is one Lawgiver, who is able to save and destroy. Who are you to judge another. Jesus did not many works there because of their unbelief. Matt. 13:58

[IndependentConserv]

Benny Hinn is not my brother. He lies to you for profit and teachers a false doctrine, II Peter 2.

I judge because scripture says to judge those who claim to be of the faith, 1 Corinthians 5:9-13. Benny Hinn is EVIL. Not of God. Using you and spreading false doctrine. Benny Hinn says "god is 9". He thinks God is 9 beings and has said it. One of many videos he's removed.

[jazhallas]

You are lying to God's people and that's why I even bothered making a comment. I want people to believe in God's healing power. You have them believing they were hypnotized by music. That's crazier than the stuff you say Benny is preaching. Nor Benny Hinn, music,and or hypnosis can heal people. It's faith in God.

[IndependentConserv]

Benny Hinn has been exposed many times over, search for "Benny Hinn Exposed" for the videos. Hinn has had many removed from YouTube that exposed him, over 75 of them were removed by Hinn and some are just being put back because Hinn had no right to remove some of them. Also, Hinn is a prosperity doctrine pimp.

[jazhallas]

Many people that point to Benny Hinn have never been to one of his meetings. Unless you have first hand information (you were part of his ministry), I will not listen to any accusations against any of God's servants. Benny Hinn is just a man who can't heal anyone. People receive their healing by faith.

[IndependentConserv]

The video about Benny Hinn that I noted features INSIDE information. Nothing I made myself. Why don't you go watch? Afraid? I will say I've seen much of Hinn's act and his doctrine is FALSE. Regarding physical matters, you totally jumped over 2 Corinthians 12:7-10. You are focused on temporal things.

[jazhallas]

Even if Benny Hinn was a false teacher (which I will not dare speak against any God's servants)that still doesn't nullify the Word of God and the faith of those believe it. Sorry my focus is on God not on men. I can't judge people's hearts but their actions. I will be praying for you that your heart will be focused on God and not attacking others because they won't embrace your personal doctrine/ideas. I was healed because of God and my faith in his power not through men.

[IndependentConserv]

So jazhallas, about your healing. Doctors never knew what was wrong, therefore they could not confirm anything "organic" about you changed, correct? They could never identify an organic issue to begin with it seems. Because they never found the cause, correct? You just know you "feel" better, correct? Your issue was functional in nature, but I'm glad you feel better.

[jazhallas]

I was a woman with an issue of blood. But it doesn't surprise me that you would doubt me. Since doubt is what you preach. I have many wonderful healing testimonies I could share with you. God is good.

[IndependentConserv]

Well Thank the Lord you are healed. As I mentioned, I've known a woman with an issue of blood who died. She had believed that she would bear children and live. She did not. She believed till death, can you deny she believed? Now either everyone with faith is healed as you say, or it only occurs as the Lord wills, which agrees with scripture. Which means not everybody with faith is healed.

[jazhallas]

God has had enough! He is going to shut you down. I will no longer strive with men who make doctrines of unbelief and teach them to my people. You are about to have a Saul/Paul experience.

[IndependentConserv]

jazhallas - First of all, I'm not trying to convince anyone that God does not heal. I know he does, when He wills it to be so and He does not need music and showmen when He does it. I'm showing that folks like Benny Hinn are frauds and the Lord is not in THEM. 2nd, God is WITH ME and that's why no matter what happens to me, the truth will still be exposed. If Paul was around, he'd tell you to reject Benny Hinn too.

[Lachance8]

Independentconserv, I agree with you that if Paul was around he would expose the truth. Will all the Pauls and Paulettes out there please stand up!

[BearBarton53]

@jazhallas - still waiting for your false prophecy to come to pass jaz...

[Estaah77]

16 But shun profane babblings: for they will proceed further in ungodliness, 17 and their word will eat as doth a gangrene: or whom is Hymenaeus an Philetus; 18 men who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already, and overthrow the faith of some. 2 Tim 2

Paul had no problem with exposing false teachers by NAME

[IndependentConserv]

While it is wonderful when someone is healed, there is a wonderful lesson that actually makes someone STRONGER when they are not healed, read 2 Corinthians 12:7-10 - Paul was NOT healed. Nobody is saying healing does not happen, we are saying there are many fakes, such as Benny Hinn. His doctrine is false and doctors can't confirm his claimed healings.

[jazhallas]

I'm sorry but disease makes you weaker until you die. What glory does God get when we make Him out to be some weak, distant, and uncaring diety. My bible tell me otherwise. Matt. 7:11 "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him." Salvation, Deliverance and Healing are gifts that Jesus paid for.

[sole1tom]

Consider David's words:Psalm 119:67 Before I was afflicted I went astray.but now I have kept thy word.

Psalm 119:71 It is good for me that I have been afflicted that I might learn thy statutes.

also:"Christ's strength is made perfect in weakness", Just as Christ learned obedience through what he suffered, so arm yourself with the same mind for he who hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin.

[jazhallas]

How in the heck can you explain this? If this guy was hypnotized the beating on his chest alone would have killed him. GEEZ! Just browse around on You Tube there are wonderful testimonies about God answering prayer. Just put in miracles or healings in the search bar. Jesus still honors our faith.

[IndependentConserv]

The guy who was hypnotized was having his chest beat on and not hurting. Those were doctors in the room, which you are not.

The Lord heals as he wills. Jesus wants us to have faith in Him and we get something greater than physical healing. As Paul leaned in 2 Corinthians 12:7-10. And we know Paul prayed for literally thousands that were healed, but 3 prayers and he was not. Yes, you can be sick and not lack faith.

[jazhallas]

This word "thorn" in Paul's flesh is skolops which means bodily annoyance or disability, whithered, point or prickle. It also says "a messenger of Satan to buffet me." I got prayer many times but I never gave up on God's promise. No one knows what Paul's affliction was but if you read the verses before it; Satan was buffeting him through persecution. It's possible that Paul's disability was caused through all the beatings he received.

[IndependentConserv]

The bottom line is, Paul prayed, was not healed and learned of something that made him stronger in the mist of physical weakness. Something you continue to dodge. The fact is, God did not will Paul to be healed. The cause of his ailment does not matter. He was NOT physically healed although he desired it, had faith and prayed repeatedly for it.

[jazhallas]

I'm so tired of people justifying their unbelief with scripture. God raised me out of a wheelchair and healed me. I've personally experienced and witnessed God's healing. What an insult to our Savior's stripes to think that God is so weak and so distant that he doesn't love us enough to make us feel better. Isaiah 53:5 "and with his stripes we are healed." Mark 16:15-18 "they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." It's God's command to lay hands on the sick.

[IndependentConserv]

jazhallas, I and commentators in the video are very much believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. It is wonderful that you were healed, but there are many who are playing on scripture to fool people for their own motives. Yes God does will some to be healed, but read Isaiah 53 in full. That scripture is not about physical, but spiritual matters and the body you'll have after this life. You came of of a wheelchair and one day your physical body will still DIE. It's about something bigger.

[jazhallas]

This "word" healed in Is. 53:5 comes from the Hebrew word rapha which means to cure, heal, repair, thouroughly make whole. Why did Jesus tell the man in Mark 2:9 your sins are forgiven you when he was being healed? Deliverance, Forgivness, Healing was all taken care of on the cross. Yes I will die someday but why live my life sick and oppressed of the devil? Remember Jesus always told the people "your faith has made you whole."

[IndependentConserv]

Also, you left out some things from Mark 16 that we never see done, such as "will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them". I agree these things happen as the Lord wills, not as a side show, which is what we see on TV.

[jazhallas]

I only left it out for lack of comment space. I believe that God can do anything! Do I believe that we should purposely handle snakes; no way! I can tell you though that I got stung twice by a yellow jacket and I hiked one mile back to the car without a single problem. Why don't you do a video a people who have been healed and build people's faith instead of come up with crazy theories like hypnosis as to why people are being healed. Our eyes should be on God not men.

[stant6]

If you don't mind me asking, what was the illness/trauma that was healed? Was it total and in what setting did the healing take place? Thanks.

[jazhallas]

The doctors never fully found out. They removed a polyp from my uterus and it made it worse. The doctor made a mess and it became an HMO nightmare. After starving me without food and water for 24 hours I went home in worse condition. On Palm Sunday I went for prayer and God completely healed me.

[stant6]

Thank you, Jazhallas. With all due respect for doctors, it sounds like Mark 5:26. Nice testimony, nevertheless. Who prayed for you? Was it the elders?

[jazhallas]

I went to see off a friend who was going to Iowa to start a church. He was preaching his last sermon when he invited those who were sick to come up for prayer. He didn't know I was there or sick. Janet Conley from Cottonwood Christian Center prayed for me. The pain left my body immediately. I straightened out because I walked hunched over and needed no more assistance to walk.

[prqnl]

It makes sense. Most faith healing testimonies today involve someone saying the pain in some part of their body is gone, while none of the healing testimonies in the Bible involve someone being healed of pain.

[brayn06]

such kind of pentecostal cheating have to be exposed

[ishokan]

This is sad.

[divine137]

actually, what's sad is these ignorant idiots who made this video. how clueless can they be. if the "occult" can through these same "spiritual" exercises make contact with their deities...then why can't prophets do the same with Christ? Duh?

[IndependentConserv]

divine137 - The answer is, because Christ is not of the occult. There is no biblical record of Jesus Christ or the apostles engaging in such foolishness.

[cholotara]

divine you sound like the Corinthians who loved weird occult stuff until Paul arrived and evangelized. Paul still had to deal with the old pagan practices that the Corinthians didn't give up right away just because they converted. Read his letters to the Corinthians, let the Holy Spirit guide you, I'm certain you will begin to discern. Stay with the Word, the Logos brah!