As good as Tyson was Foreman was made FOR him. Even Cus Damato who was so proud of Tyson admitted that no fighter who comes after Foreman would win because he was just "too big and too powerful" Tyson WOULD last longer then Fraizer only because Tyson was alot faster but the outcome would still be the same.
TYSON WAS NOTHING LIKE ALI OR JIMMY YOUNG STYLISTICALLY. FOREMAN WAS NOT KNOCKED DOWN BECAUSE THE HITTING POWER OF ALI OR YOUNG, IT WAS BECAUSE FOREMAN WAS TIRED, BECAUSE ALI AND YOUNG HAD THE STYLE TO SURVIVE AGAINST FOREMAN EARLY, JOE FRAZIER HAD BETTER STAMINA, HE WAS HARDER PUNCHER THAN ALI OR JIMMY YOUNG BUT HE COULD NOT HURT FOREMAN AND HE GOT STOPPED IN 2 ROUNDS. SO THIS COMPARISON ALI-YOUNG TYSON IS THE BIGGEST BULLSHIT EVER.
I DID READ SEVERAL COMMENTS FROM AN IDIOT UNDER THIS VIDEO, HE SAID THAT TYSON WOULD KO FOREMAN BASING ON THE THE FIGHTS WITH ALI AND JIMMY YOUNG, LMAO, THIS RETARD DOES NOT HAVE EVEN BRAIN. FOREMAN WAS DROPpED BY ALI AND JIMMY YOUNG BECAUSE HE WAS TIRED LIKE HELL, FOREMAN TOOK THE BEST SHOTS FROM ALI IN THE EARLY ROUNDS LIKE NOTHING, ALI HAD THE STYLE, THE CHIN, THE TOUGH MIND AND THE STAMINA TO SUPPORT THE EARLY ATTACK OF FOREMAN.
of course i know that tyson was not the same fighter when he was not with rooney but FOREMAN DID CHANGE HIS TRAINER ALSO POST ALI 74. TYSON FANS CLAIMS THAT FOREMAN WAS IN HIS PRIME WHEN HE LOST AGAINST JIMMY YOUNG, WELL, OK JIMMY YOUNG WAS STOLEN AGAINST ALI,NORTON AND SHAVERS, HE WAS MUCH BETTER THAN THE BUM BUSTER DOUGLAS WHO DID BEAT TYSON BY KO, HE DID NOT LOSE BY DECISION, OF COURSE IT WAS PRIME TYSON ;)
ALSO THEY COMPARES CONSTANTLY THE BEST VERSIONS OF TYSON 86-88(WHEN HE WAS UNDEFEATED) WITH BAD VERSIONS OF GEORGE LIKE 76-77 (LYLE-JIMMY YOUNG) , THIS VERSION OF FOREMAN 76 WAS MENTALLY PAST HIS PRIME, POST ALI, FOREMAN NEVER DID BELIEVE IN HIMSELF ANY MORE LIKE HE DID IN THE YEARS 72-74. BUT THE TYSON FANS GET MAD IF YOU MENTION THE FACT THAT A BUM LIKE BUSTER DOUGLAS KNOCKED TYSON OUT. HOLYFIELD (4 YEARS OLDER THAN TYSON WITH PROBLEMS OF THE HEART) OWNED TWICE
another simpletons tyson fans uses the example of ron lyle to insinuates that tyson would hurt foreman even worse, well, ron lyle was a boxer-puncher he was 6´3 and tyson was 5´10 and the reach of lyle was much longer, lyle was nothing like tyson, plus lyle had much more heart than tyson, lyle won a fight after he got dropped, tyson never did,
the tyson fans continues talking about the hand speed of tyson, but they don´t understand that styles make fights and does not matter how great was his hands speed when foreman would push him back one time and again, and george would frustrate the attack of mike, tyson could not use his complete hitting power, foreman had the reach ,the physical strength , the chin and the hitting power to beat tyson by ko or tko,
Robot, mummy..Ali had his number bouncing back on the ropes to absorb punches. A secret to taking punishment is to throw yourself back as far as possible when the punch is about to get you. Thats why Ali got up after frazier connected, he threw himself back before the punch landed hence less impact.
@immyovuk Incorrect. Ali got up because of his amazing ability to withstand punishment. Ali was ready to throw a trade mark right hand lead. Frazier's trainer knew this and gave him the task to watch Ali's right hand carefully as he was going to drop his right, lower, if he was about to throw a right hand lead, so he could put more power into it. Frazier saw him doing that, and was supposed to put in a left hook to get Ali in his own game. Ali didn't lean back at all, got full impact
Foreman might hit harder than Tyson but was good is that when he wouldn't be able to hit Tyson? Foreman couldn't dodge/slip a punch to save his life, Tyson had ko power while having phenomenal defensive skills. BEFORE the Douglas fight, he had already parted was with Kevin Rooney(Cus's trainer portage). No Mike's downfall began before the Buster fight. Do some research before you hate on Tyson.
People who know nothing about boxing: Tyson compared to Frazier.
People who about boxing: Tyson couldn't make it past the 5th round due to lung condition. Tyson was stronger than Frazier, and faster. Not to mention, Tysons power punch was the right cross, not a left uppercut if you really wanna get into details.
nobody knows who would win tyson vs. foreman. anything could happen in a fight. there has been many upsets in boxing so u can't say foreman will win or tyson. we will never know
I would break every bone in my arm under such force.
Yeah I think he would have beaten an over 22 year old Mike Tyson, because Tyson's speed and focus deteriorated from there. Tyson was at his best at the olympics, before all the hands reached into his pockets.
what are you kidding swarmers are at the disadvantage where did you get that from.And if you think im wrong im just getting this from Cus D'Amato the guy who taught Mike Tyson. He said swarmers like Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano and others would loose to big punchers like Foreman cause of the reach and power.
I'm sorry to you guys who think Tyson would beat Foreman if both were in their prime, but there is no way that would ever happen , Tyson would be KO/TKO By the 4th round. Mike Tyson was a swarmer, and swarmers have a huge disadvantage to heavy hitters like foreman. Tyson would be all aggressive and keep moving towards foreman who would pound at Tyson's face and also shattering his defensive guard. Close to exactly the same would happen as it did in the Foreman - Frazier fight.
@lucasfilmfan what are you kidding swarmers are at the disadvantage where did you get that from.And if you think im wrong im just getting this from Cus D'Amato the guy who taught Mike Tyson. He said swarmers like Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano and others would loose to big punchers like Foreman cause of the reach and power.
@danbez96 I don't think he would be TKO'd in the 4th round. Holyfield took big punches from George and wasn't TKO'd or even fell once. I think Tyson had a better chin than Holyfield. IMO it could go both ways. Foreman also had a massive chin but he could be dropped with quick power punches which Mike threw TONS of. I can see make being too quick for George, but I could also see George pounding away an entire fight and eventually wearing Mike down. I don't think Mike would have bene dropped.
Foreman vs Tyson - It'll never happen but Tyson has been compared to Joe frazier in style, height, left hook, reach. So watch the two Foreman Frazier fights and see what would most likely happen.
@JUHSTIIIIN mike tyson said he disagrees with people comparing him to frazier on a video he said just because of the height and appearance doesnt mean they are the same fighter possibly saying he could knock out frazier which i thuink he could in his prime
Mike Tyson's power was close but not as great as George Foreman, but Tyson would Kill Foreman in a Boxing Match because of his ability to dodge and counter, Also Foreman is very slow and has no Combos!!!
@emkplayboy6 and moreover, some were lacking speed, Sometimes is lacking posture engaging only shoulder and core strength, slouching too much. And footwork around heavy bag was absent. Classic symptoms of having too much weight lifting in his training in detriment of specific one. No wonder
I dont get why people think Forman would have destroyed Tyson. He hit hard but thats it. What would Forman do against a man that hit as hard as he did with faster hands and explosive power. We found out later when Tyson was past his prime that he could take huge shots. But the Tyson of 85/89 was impossible to hit, had knock out power in both hands, and applied constant pressure wearing you down with body punches! For every slow punch Forman would throw Tyson would come back with 5 or 6. lol
@b7r7u7c7e if thats true then why wouldnt tyson fight him. btw tyson was faster and more elusive but foreman had a fair bit more punching power and was alot tougher
@banofee999 Forman got TKO by non heavy hitters. But thats beside the point. Unlike forman Tyson was hard to hit in his prime. He never took a hard punch. Thats amazing and tells you he was very technical boxer. It dosent matter how hard you punch if you cant hit a moving target. Beside Tyson had "explosive" power. Right to the body, then upper cut to generate that much power in 6 inches is amazing. And your wrong Tyson was set to fight Forman but when King took over he ax the deal.
@b7r7u7c7e dude he was only stopped once in his career you idiot and the only reason ali ko'd him is because of the rope a dope foreman was exaughsted thats why. foreman had a great chin i mean ron lyle couldnt put him away knock him down yes put not finish him of cus george ha d a great chin (plus foreman kod lyle) and have you ever seen mike tyson v oliver mcall sparring? lol mike was getting hit so many times (so fuck your elusiveness) so mike hit mcall in the kidneys and back and fouled
@banofee999 Your the idiot! Forman was knocked out in the 12 round by Jimmy Young! And the point about being a fighter is being in shape for a fight! lol Do you know anything about boxing? Ali was in better shape had a good game plan what more do you want. My point is and the Ali, and Young fights prove this that it takes more then power. Tyson in HIS PRIME not talking about sparring. Was hard to hit had, knock out power in BOTH hands, and very fast. Forman with poor defense would not beat him.
@b7r7u7c7e Foreman wasn't knocked out by Young it was a decision. Anyways, Tyson is one of my favorite boxers.With that said, there is no doubt that Foreman would knock Tyson out if the two ever met in their primes. I think you underestimate Foreman. Not only did he have tremendous power but he had a long reach and a great chin. Foreman would just push tyson back and begin clubbing away. Ever watch the Frazier vs. foreman fights?
Ask Muhammad Ali and he'll tell you that Ernie Shavers hit harder that George Foreman. Larry Holmes also said that Shavers was the hardest hitter he ever faced. Larry Holmes once said, "Being hit by Mike Tyson was like getting hit by a speeding Ferrari. Being hit by Earnie Shavers was like being hit by a Mac Truck!" Tyson had an unsual mix of tremendous speed and power and could put punches together with ease. There's a lot more to boxing than just the blunt force of your punches.
@toby099 He was not hitting it hard (from his perspective) though the person holding thought he was getting hit by a sledgehammer LOL! Foreman was only tapping that bag.
I've been arguing wiht some retard who thinks Shavers hit harder than foreman all because Ali and Holmes said so. Man, I said, just look at their ko percentages. Thats all you need to know that Foreman had the greater power!
@ah93704 Every time I talk about Foreman,some asshole brings up Shavers who was a hack. Shavers was good but never great. Shavers had a tremendous right hand for sure but George had KO power in both hands throwing any punch,long or short range in any round. Ali has changed his story of who hit harder many times. Holmes and Ali used to hate Foreman and would never give him credit anyway. Foreman has the most KO's with almost a 90% KO percentage. Shavers would get KO'd by George in 3.
@muclesmarinara you obviously didnt read what I wrote you fucktwat. Why dont you put your reading glasses on and actually read what people say instead of just talking out your asshole? BTW I agree with you. I was saying someone else had been arguing with me by saying Shavers hit harder..LOL..Read what people say you fucking asshole.
@muclesmarinara Foreman was clearly the better all around fighter (chin stamina etc) but he did duck shavers. I guess he figured there's no reason to fight him unless one them was the champ. in terms of just pure punching power. Shavers was scary. He had a RailGun for a Right Hand. Foreman would most likely crush shavers BUT! If he gets caught with the BIG ONE by the Acorn lol?......Good night sweet prince. Shavers was good fighter with GREAT RightHand Sometimes Good can KO Great. Buster Doug..
@LVSWTZ Ron Lyle put George down twice and couldn't keep him there. I see what you mean though. A heavyweight fight can end with one punch. I think Foreman kills him in 3 rounds. And yes Foreman didn't WANT to fight Shavers but he also didn't want to fight Norton or Frazier. If he had to,he would have. Shavers was a killer in there though.
George Foreman in his SIXTIES could knock out 99.3% of the world's population. Foreman in his prime would destroy a Tyson the same way he destroyed Joe Frasier.
@toby099 Shavers touches somebody with his right they either dropped dead or flew across the ring. Foremans punches were very heavy thudding like a big log. Shavers were like a Rail Gun. Goes right through them. They just dropped dead. Tyson's pure TNT explosive power. different effect same result...ktfo
"I fear not the man who knows 1000 kicks, I fear the man who practices 1 kick 1000 times" - Bruce Lee. When I look at george foreman practicing his hooks so many time, that quote goes through my mind
the tyson fans can´t take that foreman was bigger,stronger,harder puncher, he had more heart, better chin, longer reach and he had the style to rape tyson.
@combatesdeboxeo LMAO are u god, can u somehow put the two together see the fight and formulate such a dumbass comment, everyone is entitled to there opinion but what u say is oblivious and far from the truth, reason i say its far from the truth cause no one knows WHAT and COULD happen, so for u to be so sure is really retarded.
I could easily say Foreman is so Big and Strong To Which Hinders Him and Makes Him a Slower And Bigger Target, Foreman Wont See 1 Punch Coming, No Point In Saying That
@combatesdeboxeo Tyson never beat people who were not scared of him. Tyson had only one late KO. George had a great chin having only been KO'd once. Tyson was KO's 5 times by weaker punchers than Foreman. Foreman KO's Tyson in 3 or 4 rounds.
@muclesmarinara McNeeley was not scared of Tyson neither was James Tillis, Mitch Green, Reggie Gross, Marvis Frazier, José Ribalta,Trevor Berbick, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tucker nor Tyrell Biggs. I could go on and on.
@muclesmarinara No? A past his prime Tyson twice beat Razor Ruddock, a guy who could hit nearly as hard as Foreman, but was also a much more complete fighter than Foreman. Tyson would have taken Foreman out. The speed, the elusiveness, the combos of Tyson coupled with the fact that Foreman was slow, didn't have all that great of a chin, and gassed out really quickly is why Tyson wins. I have little doubts about that.
@LedWhisky69 HOW CAN YOU SAY GEORGE FOREMAN "DID'NT HAVE ALL THAT GREAT OF A CHIN WHEN HE WAS KO'D ONCE BY MUHAMMAD ALI AND TYSON WAS KO'D 5 TIMES ! ! ! AND HE "HE GASES OUT REAL QUICKLY" WHEN HE WENT TO THE 12 ROUND WITH EVANDER HOLYFIELD AT THE AGE OF 41 AND HIS OTHER 4 DEFEATS WHERE ON POINTS GETS YOUR FACTS RIGHT ! TYSON WOULDNT OF BEEN ABLE TO GET IN CLOSE ENOUGHT TO HIT GEORGE FOREMAN . FOREMAN HAD A LONGER REACH AND HEIGHT ADVANTAGE. HE WOULD HAVE DONE WHAT HE DONE TO FRAZIER TO TYSON !
@PAULKEATING1 Foreman got knocked out by Ali without Ali having barely even laying into him. Foreman was simply gassed out so quickly that it only took a few blows to send him down and this was in Foreman's PRIME. All of Tyson's losses that you speak of were all past Tyson's prime, but even then, he took an amazing amount of punishment before going down or having had the fight stopped. Tyson had no problem's fighting big guys like Foreman, very much unlike Joe Frazier, obviously.
@LedWhisky69 MUHAMMAD ALI IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE A MUCH GREATER FIGHTER THAN TYSON ! BUT IM SURE YOU TYPICAL TYSON FAN WILL NEVER ADMIT THAT ANYONE WAS BETTER THAN TYSON AND IM 100% SURE GEORGE FOREMAN IS ONE GUY THAT TYSON HAD A PROBLEM WITH > > > /watch?v=H1U-W6dQGHo&feature=related
@PAULKEATING1 Ali was a great champion. Maybe the greatest champion we've ever had, BUT styles make fights and a matchup between Ali and Tyson proves to be a very dangerous one for BOTH fighters. You can cut the bullshit because you'll never see me ever type that Tyson would destroy Ali or any other nonsense like it. No, it would be a very tough fight and probably go the distance. Whoever wins depends mostly on who wants it more. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
@LedWhisky69 And Tyson didnt want it . . he said himself he did'nt want anything to do with 41 year old George Foreman he even said himself he would have been KO'D ! He was the reason they didnt fight because he knew he would have beaten. And George Foreman wanted it more he said it was his dream to fight Tyson .
@PAULKEATING1 LOL! Yeah, sure. If Foreman couldn't beat a then small Holyfield or even a "glass jaw" Tommy Morrison, do you really believe that Tyson would have been KO'd by Foreman? Seriously? Do you really even believe that story and think Tyson would have just cowered in fear and gone down? LOL! You probably know less about boxing and Tyson than anyone I've spoken with here on the subject. You're really funny, kid. Really...
@LedWhisky69 You always seem to forget Foreman's age 41clearly not in his prime and going to the 12 round was an accomplishment considering everyone seen him getting destroyed.I'm sorry i just cant talk to you anymore,You are clearly never will be able to admit that anyone is better than Tyson and you will never be able to give George Foreman the credit but that's your problem.And as you learn more about boxing you probably will be able to appreciate George foreman as a boxer OK IM DONE GOODBYE!
@PAULKEATING1 On the contrary. I know plenty about boxing and as the years have gone by, the less and less I appreciate Foreman as a boxer. He was one-dimensional, slow, clumsy, had a suspect chin, and was basically little more than a bully during the first part of his career. He was tall, had a long reach, and could deliver power shots, but that's no match for someone as elusive as Tyson who had no problems getting inside big men and pounding them with lightning quick combinations.
@PAULKEATING1 I didn't seem to forget anything about Foreman's age, but that doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Him winning the title in his 40s doesn't in any way make him a fighter that could take on Mike Tyson and beat him. That's quite a leap to even suggest it, actually. I also never said Tyson was unbeatable, so stop putting words in my mouth. I just know that Foreman was not the man to do it. I'd give Liston a better chance at Tyson than I would Foreman. No doubt.
@PAULKEATING1 BTW, I've heard before this story about Tyson being scared to fight 40+ year old George Foreman and I have a very hard time accepting that as truth. In all of Tyson's career, I can't imagine he was ever so scared to fight anyone that he simply backed away from the fight. I think that story is horseshit. Every fighter feels fear, but Tyson was no coward. Certainly not and I'm quite certain that Tyson would have beaten George Foreman even during his prime. I have little doubt.
@PAULKEATING1 Oh, and just so you know, that stupid article was written by some Tyson hater over at EastSideBoxing. Obviously, it's laced with bias and supposedly second/third hand accounts. I don't buy it and f you had a brain, you would buy it either. On the other hand, we do have a TRUE story from '99 where a matchup between Tyson and Foreman was attempted again and Tyson's manager, Shelly Finkel, couldn't even get Foreman on the phone. That's a true story.
@LedWhisky69 You mean Tyson wanted to fight him when he was 50 years old and about to retire ye i think he was a bit late. Tyson had so many chances to fight George Foreman and he did'nt. You can say that the accounts are "laced with bias and supposedly second/third hand accounts" but the fact of the matter is Tyson was afraid to fight Foreman and somewhere along the line was asked to fight Foreman and declined.1999 was probably the only time Tyson thought he had a chance of beating Foreman(50
@PAULKEATING1 Tyson in 1999 was a shell of his former self, also, so it wouldn't have mattered. That fight wouldn't have answered any questions for anyone, regardless. The truth is that a Tyson/Foreman fight was never really in the cards. In the '90s, King had control over Tyson's career and Foreman wanted no part of that. Tyson, after losing to Douglas, wouldn't have been interested in fighting Foreman. He wanted the belts back and Holyfield was the man in his sights.
@PAULKEATING1 Im a fan of both and read every book on both men. The fact is Forman was very worried to fight Tyson in 91 and was only going to do it if the money was huge. When Tyson was with his first management team they were eager to set up a fight with Forman. In fact it was in the works after the Bruno fight but when King took over Tyson they ax that plan. In the book Money, Power, and Greed Tyson thought Forman would be easy. He hit hard but so what. Tyson had speed & power, and hard 2 hit
Foreman is considered the strongest boxer of all time and one of the hardest hitting HUMANS that have ever lived. He made up his somewhat poor technique with brute strength.
@seka1986 what? cmon man lol, tyson would destroy shavers,snipes, or leon spinks, he would stop quarry ,lyle and young in great fights, maybe he would stop even frazier. i agree on foreman and ali.
@berealandstaytrue, what a tit you are. Foreman would wipe the floor with Tyson, clean around the back of the toilets with Tyson, blow his nose on Tyson, screw Tyson up in to a little ball and then throw Tyson in to the nearest dust bin.
@berealandstaytrue Yes im sure he would if he could build up the balls to get in the ring with Foreman Hhaa Typical Tyson fan ! ! ! it was Foreman's dream to fight Tyson . . watch?v=H1U-W6dQGHo&feature=related
@PAULKEATING1 if kevin rooney was his trainer and prepared him for the fight he would have beaten him it would have gone to points what ever the case a great fight i reckon tyson would have 1 coz foreman had his hands down to often
@berealandstaytrue Highly doubt that Tyson would have won that's my opinion ! ! !Ye there could have been a fight if Tyson was'nt to affraid to fight him. George Foreman lasted to the 12 round against Evander Holyfield and that was when he was 42 and Evander Holyfield was undisputed heavyweight champion in peak condition so just imagine George in his prime ! He would have destroyed Tyson ! ! !
Old George would not been able to deal the Tyson's movement, but Foreman still had power, but Tyson wont stand in front of you, young Tyson was always attacking and I would not have wanted to see Foreman, get his third loss that way by KO like Larry Holmes against Tyson. However, Ali in this video would not allow George to intimidate him, instead he did the intimadating making George think he was crazy and unpredictable, as the fight played out, just absolute genious by Ali...
Foreman was able to take every single punch Holyfield threw at him. He managed to daze Holyfield, even stagger him at one occasion. He lost, but he lost against a prime Evander Holyfield (as juiced up as a professional boxer can possibly be), who had all advantages in his favor. Holyfield, a counter-puncher, definetely had the old George by the balls. Tyson, an inside fighter, would be required to bring the fight to George. And you DO NOT want to trade punches with George Foreman.
If you knew how to put 2 and 2 together, you would realize that I was comparing Tyson and Holyfield, seeing as Foreman never fought Tyson. You claimed that Tyson would have been too fast for George. As we all know, Holyfield was too good for Tyson on two occasions. I don't see how Tyson would have had less trouble with Foreman than Holyfield had. Do you understand me now?
@MrRoyalFatness Hard to put your 2 and 2 together..But young Tyson that faught holmes would have stayed in George Chest more. Evander tho, beating him keeping him moving faster, barring down on him...Young Foreman would have been too much, but older Foreman, smarter would have had to deal with alot of movement and power from Tyson, than Evander. I believe Evander won on a decision, but I think Tyson would find a easier time with old Foreman because he stays in front of him. Evander was faster.
@setsallset: The article "Why we never saw Tyson-Foreman" is a complete lie spread by the Foreman camp that has a lot of clueless people like you fooled. Tyson never ducked Foreman. Tyson-Foreman never happened because Tyson was UNDISPUTED champion at the time, and Foreman got his ass kicked by a skinny Evander Holycheater, so Foreman never had the RIGHT to even challenge Tyson. If Foreman beat Holycheater, I mean Holyfield, that Tyson-Foreman would have happened. But Foreman got his ass kicked.
Yes but Tyson has admitted that sluggers like Foreman and Liston would beat him. Cus d Mato told him he could never beat them, because he went forward.
@jacksonwenpire Actually you're wrong. Tyson had lost his title to Douglas in January 1990. 10 months later Holyfield KO'd Douglas and was the undisputed champ. Foreman fought Holyfield for the title in April 1991 at the same time as when Tyson was fighting Ruddock. Holyfield was the champion. Not Tyson.
@setsallset: I need to learn more about boxing? LMFAO, really dude? You thought that FOREMAN was a SWARMER, and that TYSON was a BRAWLER! and that you want ME to learn more about boxing? ME? LMFAO you really gave me a good laugh on that one. You're entire post is wrong and is an epic fail.
@setsallset: Brawlers don't ALWAYS beat swarmers. Foreman would get killed by Tyson because Foreman never moves his fucking head. Any boxing expert will tell you that.
@setsallset: Err, you got everything in the wrong order. It supposed to be boxer beats brawler, brawler beats swarmer, and swarmer beats boxer. You did it the other way around, dumb ass. And then you went and told @jacksonwenpire to learn a bit more about boxing? LOL, you really just embarrassed yourself pretty bad right there. Foreman is the brawler, not Tyson, you dumb ass. Tyson is the swarmer. And in this case Tyson the swarmer is gonna kill Foreman the brawler cauz Foreman is dumb and slow
@setsallset: Tyson would knock stupid slugger Foreman out cold, period. Foreman destroyed Frazier only because Frazier charges into him like an idiot. Frazier is there to be hit, Tyson isn't. Prime Tyson with his peek-a-boo defence would EASILY get on the inside and murder Foreman. Foreman isn't even going to TOUCH prime Tyson. Tyson moves his head in 8 directions vs Frazier's 2. Foreman would get killed by Tyson's lightning fast combinations, period.
KellingtonBuzz: Please, Tyson would fuck Foreman up. Muhammad Ali himself said that not only did Tyson hit harder than Foreman and Shavers, Tyson is also THE GREATEST. So gtfo you ignorant motherfucka.
@jacksonwenpire you need to learn a bit more about boxing. Brawlers beat Boxers, Boxers beat Slugger, and Sluggers beat Brawlers. Search for "Why We Never Saw Foreman-Tyson". Styles make fights. Simply put. Foreman, the slugger would walk all over Tyson, the brawler just like he walked over Frazier. It's the styles...
@jacksonwenpire How the fuck could Ali say anything about Tyson considering he had never even fought Tyson nor ever sparred with him. LOL! Stop making up shit. Ali NEVER said Tyson could hit harder than Foreman and Liston. That's an outright lie and you damn well know it. Go watch Arsenio Hall and watch Tyson telling the world that he had nowhere near the punching power of Foreman and Liston. The clip is on YouTube under the keyword "Arsenio Hall Ali Tyson". You'll find it.
No skill, no brain, no heart. All overrated power and strength. Foreman used to be the biggest loser ever in Boxing. That''s why the bum retired for a decade because Jimmy Young completely embarassed and exposed him after Ali did.
@MMAC0RE Maybe..Maybe not...You don't fucking know...A prime Tyson could take anybody out, at any given time...Same with Foreman...You just don't know...So shut you're fucking mouth you ignoramus.
@thisiswarson he is so powerfull but ali proved strength " which he had " is worthless unless u put speed into it .. i'm trying to work both them into my routine , will take a while but if u have a few seconds check my bagwork please .. thanks :D
@MegaDiamond001 hardly useless and obv not near as good as him he was the best in the world at one point , im just messing about .. foreman was slow ali dominated him :D
@calbo555 Face it, as irritated as you are by foreman's ability you know if he could have lasted 15 rounds with that much power, ali's speed would have been like your bagwork, useless.
@MegaDiamond001 first doesn't irritate me one bit he was a good champ but ali was superior , second foreman couldn't make over 8 rounds never mind 15 you stupid fuck watch some fights .. ali lasted 15 rounds nearly every fight and had the speed and power to destroy people his full career !
As good as Tyson was Foreman was made FOR him. Even Cus Damato who was so proud of Tyson admitted that no fighter who comes after Foreman would win because he was just "too big and too powerful" Tyson WOULD last longer then Fraizer only because Tyson was alot faster but the outcome would still be the same.
sparx2k9 3 days ago
TYSON WAS NOTHING LIKE ALI OR JIMMY YOUNG STYLISTICALLY. FOREMAN WAS NOT KNOCKED DOWN BECAUSE THE HITTING POWER OF ALI OR YOUNG, IT WAS BECAUSE FOREMAN WAS TIRED, BECAUSE ALI AND YOUNG HAD THE STYLE TO SURVIVE AGAINST FOREMAN EARLY, JOE FRAZIER HAD BETTER STAMINA, HE WAS HARDER PUNCHER THAN ALI OR JIMMY YOUNG BUT HE COULD NOT HURT FOREMAN AND HE GOT STOPPED IN 2 ROUNDS. SO THIS COMPARISON ALI-YOUNG TYSON IS THE BIGGEST BULLSHIT EVER.
combatesdeboxeo 4 days ago
I DID READ SEVERAL COMMENTS FROM AN IDIOT UNDER THIS VIDEO, HE SAID THAT TYSON WOULD KO FOREMAN BASING ON THE THE FIGHTS WITH ALI AND JIMMY YOUNG, LMAO, THIS RETARD DOES NOT HAVE EVEN BRAIN. FOREMAN WAS DROPpED BY ALI AND JIMMY YOUNG BECAUSE HE WAS TIRED LIKE HELL, FOREMAN TOOK THE BEST SHOTS FROM ALI IN THE EARLY ROUNDS LIKE NOTHING, ALI HAD THE STYLE, THE CHIN, THE TOUGH MIND AND THE STAMINA TO SUPPORT THE EARLY ATTACK OF FOREMAN.
combatesdeboxeo 4 days ago
of course i know that tyson was not the same fighter when he was not with rooney but FOREMAN DID CHANGE HIS TRAINER ALSO POST ALI 74. TYSON FANS CLAIMS THAT FOREMAN WAS IN HIS PRIME WHEN HE LOST AGAINST JIMMY YOUNG, WELL, OK JIMMY YOUNG WAS STOLEN AGAINST ALI,NORTON AND SHAVERS, HE WAS MUCH BETTER THAN THE BUM BUSTER DOUGLAS WHO DID BEAT TYSON BY KO, HE DID NOT LOSE BY DECISION, OF COURSE IT WAS PRIME TYSON ;)
combatesdeboxeo 4 days ago
ALSO THEY COMPARES CONSTANTLY THE BEST VERSIONS OF TYSON 86-88(WHEN HE WAS UNDEFEATED) WITH BAD VERSIONS OF GEORGE LIKE 76-77 (LYLE-JIMMY YOUNG) , THIS VERSION OF FOREMAN 76 WAS MENTALLY PAST HIS PRIME, POST ALI, FOREMAN NEVER DID BELIEVE IN HIMSELF ANY MORE LIKE HE DID IN THE YEARS 72-74. BUT THE TYSON FANS GET MAD IF YOU MENTION THE FACT THAT A BUM LIKE BUSTER DOUGLAS KNOCKED TYSON OUT. HOLYFIELD (4 YEARS OLDER THAN TYSON WITH PROBLEMS OF THE HEART) OWNED TWICE
combatesdeboxeo 4 days ago
another simpletons tyson fans uses the example of ron lyle to insinuates that tyson would hurt foreman even worse, well, ron lyle was a boxer-puncher he was 6´3 and tyson was 5´10 and the reach of lyle was much longer, lyle was nothing like tyson, plus lyle had much more heart than tyson, lyle won a fight after he got dropped, tyson never did,
combatesdeboxeo 4 days ago
the tyson fans continues talking about the hand speed of tyson, but they don´t understand that styles make fights and does not matter how great was his hands speed when foreman would push him back one time and again, and george would frustrate the attack of mike, tyson could not use his complete hitting power, foreman had the reach ,the physical strength , the chin and the hitting power to beat tyson by ko or tko,
combatesdeboxeo 4 days ago
BIG THANKS uploader!
pfeitosa 4 days ago
Robot, mummy..Ali had his number bouncing back on the ropes to absorb punches. A secret to taking punishment is to throw yourself back as far as possible when the punch is about to get you. Thats why Ali got up after frazier connected, he threw himself back before the punch landed hence less impact.
immyovuk 5 days ago
@immyovuk Incorrect. Ali got up because of his amazing ability to withstand punishment. Ali was ready to throw a trade mark right hand lead. Frazier's trainer knew this and gave him the task to watch Ali's right hand carefully as he was going to drop his right, lower, if he was about to throw a right hand lead, so he could put more power into it. Frazier saw him doing that, and was supposed to put in a left hook to get Ali in his own game. Ali didn't lean back at all, got full impact
michaelyouth 3 days ago
exactly tyson has better foot work, head movement, combination than joe frazier, The only thing similar about them is that their height.
324582782 5 days ago
Foreman might hit harder than Tyson but was good is that when he wouldn't be able to hit Tyson? Foreman couldn't dodge/slip a punch to save his life, Tyson had ko power while having phenomenal defensive skills. BEFORE the Douglas fight, he had already parted was with Kevin Rooney(Cus's trainer portage). No Mike's downfall began before the Buster fight. Do some research before you hate on Tyson.
heatseeker760 2 weeks ago
People who know nothing about boxing: Tyson compared to Frazier.
People who about boxing: Tyson couldn't make it past the 5th round due to lung condition. Tyson was stronger than Frazier, and faster. Not to mention, Tysons power punch was the right cross, not a left uppercut if you really wanna get into details.
RandomLevitation 2 weeks ago
People who know nothing about boxing = Tyson would beat Foreman
People who know about boxing = Foreman would make short work of Tyson
ijl1i 2 weeks ago
watch your fingers mate!!!
andrewbrianso 3 weeks ago
nobody knows who would win tyson vs. foreman. anything could happen in a fight. there has been many upsets in boxing so u can't say foreman will win or tyson. we will never know
ucytgutta 3 weeks ago
I would break every bone in my arm under such force.
Yeah I think he would have beaten an over 22 year old Mike Tyson, because Tyson's speed and focus deteriorated from there. Tyson was at his best at the olympics, before all the hands reached into his pockets.
DickieM92 3 weeks ago
@DickieM92 ...Tyson wasn't at the Olympics?
HarryTheTalkingDude 3 weeks ago
@DickieM92 hahahaha, nice one dickhead. your saying tyson was at his best when he was 16! hmmmm yh don't think so.
benbow1338 2 weeks ago
forman is the hardest puncher of all time
inviziblehunter 3 weeks ago
Damn scary
zimbreator 1 month ago
brute force!
burt2245 1 month ago
how much did it weigh
JUHSTIIIIN 1 month ago
what are you kidding swarmers are at the disadvantage where did you get that from.And if you think im wrong im just getting this from Cus D'Amato the guy who taught Mike Tyson. He said swarmers like Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano and others would loose to big punchers like Foreman cause of the reach and power.
JUHSTIIIIN 1 month ago
I'm sorry to you guys who think Tyson would beat Foreman if both were in their prime, but there is no way that would ever happen , Tyson would be KO/TKO By the 4th round. Mike Tyson was a swarmer, and swarmers have a huge disadvantage to heavy hitters like foreman. Tyson would be all aggressive and keep moving towards foreman who would pound at Tyson's face and also shattering his defensive guard. Close to exactly the same would happen as it did in the Foreman - Frazier fight.
danbez96 1 month ago
@danbez96 I agree that george would knockout tyson maybe not that early but swarmers have the advantage over a tall slugger like foreman.
lucasfilmfan 1 month ago
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@lucasfilmfan what are you kidding swarmers are at the disadvantage where did you get that from.And if you think im wrong im just getting this from Cus D'Amato the guy who taught Mike Tyson. He said swarmers like Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano and others would loose to big punchers like Foreman cause of the reach and power.
JUHSTIIIIN 1 month ago
@danbez96 I don't think he would be TKO'd in the 4th round. Holyfield took big punches from George and wasn't TKO'd or even fell once. I think Tyson had a better chin than Holyfield. IMO it could go both ways. Foreman also had a massive chin but he could be dropped with quick power punches which Mike threw TONS of. I can see make being too quick for George, but I could also see George pounding away an entire fight and eventually wearing Mike down. I don't think Mike would have bene dropped.
NBAGOATS 1 month ago
watch from 0:21............... if foreman missed, his trainer would of got his fingers crushed lol
nzauckpat20 2 months ago
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AlmightyTurd 2 months ago
Foreman is pounding the bag like a mother bear protecting her cubs.
menswear2112 2 months ago
The punch at 0:28.....OH MAMA !!!
gameboy010203 2 months ago
Foreman vs Tyson - It'll never happen but Tyson has been compared to Joe frazier in style, height, left hook, reach. So watch the two Foreman Frazier fights and see what would most likely happen.
JUHSTIIIIN 2 months ago 12
@JUHSTIIIIN tyson had faster hands and feet.
tariqziyad 1 month ago
@JUHSTIIIIN mike tyson said he disagrees with people comparing him to frazier on a video he said just because of the height and appearance doesnt mean they are the same fighter possibly saying he could knock out frazier which i thuink he could in his prime
grimbomufc09 3 weeks ago
@JUHSTIIIIN Tyson and Frazier only have similar styles for the uneducated. Frazier bobbed and weaved randomly forward, like a chicken with no head.
Tyson was an aggressive counterpuncher. His technique was totally different from the primitive frazier.
TheBestBoxingGame 1 week ago 3
@JUHSTIIIIN Tyson and frazier are nothing alike.
Nathan2345678 1 week ago
Mike Tyson's power was close but not as great as George Foreman, but Tyson would Kill Foreman in a Boxing Match because of his ability to dodge and counter, Also Foreman is very slow and has no Combos!!!
sapling25 2 months ago
No speed "peak" at the moment of impact. no snap in legs or hips
when striking, only handwork.
perneslaur 2 months ago
@perneslaur pure strength, blunt brute force. awesome!
LVSWTZ 1 month ago
he had hard punches but seriously no serious combo's were thrown!
emkplayboy6 3 months ago
@emkplayboy6 and moreover, some were lacking speed, Sometimes is lacking posture engaging only shoulder and core strength, slouching too much. And footwork around heavy bag was absent. Classic symptoms of having too much weight lifting in his training in detriment of specific one. No wonder
he was gased out.
perneslaur 2 months ago
@emkplayboy6 No speed "peak" at the moment of impact. no snap in legs or hips
when striking, only handwork
perneslaur 2 months ago
@emkplayboy6 he didn't need to.
gameboy010203 2 months ago
ouch,
gregboy59 3 months ago
I dont get why people think Forman would have destroyed Tyson. He hit hard but thats it. What would Forman do against a man that hit as hard as he did with faster hands and explosive power. We found out later when Tyson was past his prime that he could take huge shots. But the Tyson of 85/89 was impossible to hit, had knock out power in both hands, and applied constant pressure wearing you down with body punches! For every slow punch Forman would throw Tyson would come back with 5 or 6. lol
b7r7u7c7e 3 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e if thats true then why wouldnt tyson fight him. btw tyson was faster and more elusive but foreman had a fair bit more punching power and was alot tougher
banofee999 3 months ago
@banofee999 Forman got TKO by non heavy hitters. But thats beside the point. Unlike forman Tyson was hard to hit in his prime. He never took a hard punch. Thats amazing and tells you he was very technical boxer. It dosent matter how hard you punch if you cant hit a moving target. Beside Tyson had "explosive" power. Right to the body, then upper cut to generate that much power in 6 inches is amazing. And your wrong Tyson was set to fight Forman but when King took over he ax the deal.
b7r7u7c7e 3 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e dude he was only stopped once in his career you idiot and the only reason ali ko'd him is because of the rope a dope foreman was exaughsted thats why. foreman had a great chin i mean ron lyle couldnt put him away knock him down yes put not finish him of cus george ha d a great chin (plus foreman kod lyle) and have you ever seen mike tyson v oliver mcall sparring? lol mike was getting hit so many times (so fuck your elusiveness) so mike hit mcall in the kidneys and back and fouled
banofee999 3 months ago
@banofee999 Your the idiot! Forman was knocked out in the 12 round by Jimmy Young! And the point about being a fighter is being in shape for a fight! lol Do you know anything about boxing? Ali was in better shape had a good game plan what more do you want. My point is and the Ali, and Young fights prove this that it takes more then power. Tyson in HIS PRIME not talking about sparring. Was hard to hit had, knock out power in BOTH hands, and very fast. Forman with poor defense would not beat him.
b7r7u7c7e 3 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e Explain to me how Foreman had "poor" defense?
MIKESOWELL 3 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e Foreman wasn't knocked out by Young it was a decision. Anyways, Tyson is one of my favorite boxers.With that said, there is no doubt that Foreman would knock Tyson out if the two ever met in their primes. I think you underestimate Foreman. Not only did he have tremendous power but he had a long reach and a great chin. Foreman would just push tyson back and begin clubbing away. Ever watch the Frazier vs. foreman fights?
lawrenceng18 3 months ago
It's not about who the fighter is, it's about what he's got and there are a few if's and but's in there aswell.
MegaDiamond001 3 months ago
Ask Muhammad Ali and he'll tell you that Ernie Shavers hit harder that George Foreman. Larry Holmes also said that Shavers was the hardest hitter he ever faced. Larry Holmes once said, "Being hit by Mike Tyson was like getting hit by a speeding Ferrari. Being hit by Earnie Shavers was like being hit by a Mac Truck!" Tyson had an unsual mix of tremendous speed and power and could put punches together with ease. There's a lot more to boxing than just the blunt force of your punches.
LedWhisky69 3 months ago
Holy shit! Those punching bags are super thick, yet Foreman is beating it like it's a pillow! Damn!
crowley0312 3 months ago
lol just to let u people know his not hitting it with full power
FIGHTFANNERD3 4 months ago
i'd love to see foreman miss a punch and punched the guy who's holding the heavy bag.......
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mrTovmac 4 months ago
i'd love to be the guy holding the bag just to feel that massive power
toby099 4 months ago
@toby099 He was not hitting it hard (from his perspective) though the person holding thought he was getting hit by a sledgehammer LOL! Foreman was only tapping that bag.
MultiGreat1 4 months ago
@MultiGreat1 that foremans trainer dick saddler.
LVSWTZ 1 month ago
I've been arguing wiht some retard who thinks Shavers hit harder than foreman all because Ali and Holmes said so. Man, I said, just look at their ko percentages. Thats all you need to know that Foreman had the greater power!
ah93704 4 months ago
@ah93704 Every time I talk about Foreman,some asshole brings up Shavers who was a hack. Shavers was good but never great. Shavers had a tremendous right hand for sure but George had KO power in both hands throwing any punch,long or short range in any round. Ali has changed his story of who hit harder many times. Holmes and Ali used to hate Foreman and would never give him credit anyway. Foreman has the most KO's with almost a 90% KO percentage. Shavers would get KO'd by George in 3.
muclesmarinara 4 months ago
@muclesmarinara you obviously didnt read what I wrote you fucktwat. Why dont you put your reading glasses on and actually read what people say instead of just talking out your asshole? BTW I agree with you. I was saying someone else had been arguing with me by saying Shavers hit harder..LOL..Read what people say you fucking asshole.
ah93704 4 months ago
@muclesmarinara
i agree shavers only had power in his right, foreman could take out with any shot, left hook, right cross, even his jab had crazy power
toby099 4 months ago
@muclesmarinara Foreman was clearly the better all around fighter (chin stamina etc) but he did duck shavers. I guess he figured there's no reason to fight him unless one them was the champ. in terms of just pure punching power. Shavers was scary. He had a RailGun for a Right Hand. Foreman would most likely crush shavers BUT! If he gets caught with the BIG ONE by the Acorn lol?......Good night sweet prince. Shavers was good fighter with GREAT RightHand Sometimes Good can KO Great. Buster Doug..
LVSWTZ 1 month ago
@LVSWTZ Ron Lyle put George down twice and couldn't keep him there. I see what you mean though. A heavyweight fight can end with one punch. I think Foreman kills him in 3 rounds. And yes Foreman didn't WANT to fight Shavers but he also didn't want to fight Norton or Frazier. If he had to,he would have. Shavers was a killer in there though.
muclesmarinara 1 month ago
this is from ali movie it was "when we were king"
DX777900 4 months ago
George Foreman in his SIXTIES could knock out 99.3% of the world's population. Foreman in his prime would destroy a Tyson the same way he destroyed Joe Frasier.
broaddusmarines 4 months ago 2
IMO Foreman had the most raw power of any heavyweight. He could knock you out with terribly formed arm punches, never seen shavers or tyson do that.
toby099 4 months ago 9
@toby099 Shavers touches somebody with his right they either dropped dead or flew across the ring. Foremans punches were very heavy thudding like a big log. Shavers were like a Rail Gun. Goes right through them. They just dropped dead. Tyson's pure TNT explosive power. different effect same result...ktfo
LVSWTZ 1 month ago
KNOCK...KNOCK
emactivedotcom 5 months ago
@emactivedotcom KNOCK...KNOCK, who's there, calbo555 the cunt, twat, prick, asshole!
MegaDiamond001 5 months ago
"I fear not the man who knows 1000 kicks, I fear the man who practices 1 kick 1000 times" - Bruce Lee. When I look at george foreman practicing his hooks so many time, that quote goes through my mind
sneakyscorpia 5 months ago
the tyson fans can´t take that foreman was bigger,stronger,harder puncher, he had more heart, better chin, longer reach and he had the style to rape tyson.
combatesdeboxeo 5 months ago 2
@combatesdeboxeo LMAO are u god, can u somehow put the two together see the fight and formulate such a dumbass comment, everyone is entitled to there opinion but what u say is oblivious and far from the truth, reason i say its far from the truth cause no one knows WHAT and COULD happen, so for u to be so sure is really retarded.
I could easily say Foreman is so Big and Strong To Which Hinders Him and Makes Him a Slower And Bigger Target, Foreman Wont See 1 Punch Coming, No Point In Saying That
cacamonster91st 5 months ago
@cacamonster91st blablabla, yes kid yes, go to watch the cartoons
combatesdeboxeo 5 months ago
@combatesdeboxeo Oh plz u cant even reply cause thats the truth little boy, u can say as u please in ur make believe land LOL, Gay ass.
cacamonster91st 5 months ago
only the stupid tyson fanboys would say " tyson would destroy george foreman", foreman was all wrong for tyson, foreman would ko tyson and badly
combatesdeboxeo 5 months ago 6
@combatesdeboxeo Tyson never beat people who were not scared of him. Tyson had only one late KO. George had a great chin having only been KO'd once. Tyson was KO's 5 times by weaker punchers than Foreman. Foreman KO's Tyson in 3 or 4 rounds.
muclesmarinara 4 months ago
@muclesmarinara McNeeley was not scared of Tyson neither was James Tillis, Mitch Green, Reggie Gross, Marvis Frazier, José Ribalta,Trevor Berbick, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tucker nor Tyrell Biggs. I could go on and on.
MultiGreat1 4 months ago
@muclesmarinara What a simple-minded analysis you have going here.
LedWhisky69 3 months ago
@LedWhisky69 I love Tyson but he couldn't beat Foreman
muclesmarinara 3 months ago
@muclesmarinara No? A past his prime Tyson twice beat Razor Ruddock, a guy who could hit nearly as hard as Foreman, but was also a much more complete fighter than Foreman. Tyson would have taken Foreman out. The speed, the elusiveness, the combos of Tyson coupled with the fact that Foreman was slow, didn't have all that great of a chin, and gassed out really quickly is why Tyson wins. I have little doubts about that.
LedWhisky69 3 months ago
@LedWhisky69 HOW CAN YOU SAY GEORGE FOREMAN "DID'NT HAVE ALL THAT GREAT OF A CHIN WHEN HE WAS KO'D ONCE BY MUHAMMAD ALI AND TYSON WAS KO'D 5 TIMES ! ! ! AND HE "HE GASES OUT REAL QUICKLY" WHEN HE WENT TO THE 12 ROUND WITH EVANDER HOLYFIELD AT THE AGE OF 41 AND HIS OTHER 4 DEFEATS WHERE ON POINTS GETS YOUR FACTS RIGHT ! TYSON WOULDNT OF BEEN ABLE TO GET IN CLOSE ENOUGHT TO HIT GEORGE FOREMAN . FOREMAN HAD A LONGER REACH AND HEIGHT ADVANTAGE. HE WOULD HAVE DONE WHAT HE DONE TO FRAZIER TO TYSON !
PAULKEATING1 3 months ago
@PAULKEATING1 Foreman got knocked out by Ali without Ali having barely even laying into him. Foreman was simply gassed out so quickly that it only took a few blows to send him down and this was in Foreman's PRIME. All of Tyson's losses that you speak of were all past Tyson's prime, but even then, he took an amazing amount of punishment before going down or having had the fight stopped. Tyson had no problem's fighting big guys like Foreman, very much unlike Joe Frazier, obviously.
LedWhisky69 3 months ago
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PAULKEATING1 3 months ago
@LedWhisky69 MUHAMMAD ALI IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE A MUCH GREATER FIGHTER THAN TYSON ! BUT IM SURE YOU TYPICAL TYSON FAN WILL NEVER ADMIT THAT ANYONE WAS BETTER THAN TYSON AND IM 100% SURE GEORGE FOREMAN IS ONE GUY THAT TYSON HAD A PROBLEM WITH > > > /watch?v=H1U-W6dQGHo&feature=related
PAULKEATING1 3 months ago
@PAULKEATING1 Ali was a great champion. Maybe the greatest champion we've ever had, BUT styles make fights and a matchup between Ali and Tyson proves to be a very dangerous one for BOTH fighters. You can cut the bullshit because you'll never see me ever type that Tyson would destroy Ali or any other nonsense like it. No, it would be a very tough fight and probably go the distance. Whoever wins depends mostly on who wants it more. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
LedWhisky69 3 months ago
@LedWhisky69 And Tyson didnt want it . . he said himself he did'nt want anything to do with 41 year old George Foreman he even said himself he would have been KO'D ! He was the reason they didnt fight because he knew he would have beaten. And George Foreman wanted it more he said it was his dream to fight Tyson .
PAULKEATING1 3 months ago
@PAULKEATING1 LOL! Yeah, sure. If Foreman couldn't beat a then small Holyfield or even a "glass jaw" Tommy Morrison, do you really believe that Tyson would have been KO'd by Foreman? Seriously? Do you really even believe that story and think Tyson would have just cowered in fear and gone down? LOL! You probably know less about boxing and Tyson than anyone I've spoken with here on the subject. You're really funny, kid. Really...
LedWhisky69 3 months ago
@LedWhisky69 You always seem to forget Foreman's age 41clearly not in his prime and going to the 12 round was an accomplishment considering everyone seen him getting destroyed.I'm sorry i just cant talk to you anymore,You are clearly never will be able to admit that anyone is better than Tyson and you will never be able to give George Foreman the credit but that's your problem.And as you learn more about boxing you probably will be able to appreciate George foreman as a boxer OK IM DONE GOODBYE!
PAULKEATING1 3 months ago
@PAULKEATING1 On the contrary. I know plenty about boxing and as the years have gone by, the less and less I appreciate Foreman as a boxer. He was one-dimensional, slow, clumsy, had a suspect chin, and was basically little more than a bully during the first part of his career. He was tall, had a long reach, and could deliver power shots, but that's no match for someone as elusive as Tyson who had no problems getting inside big men and pounding them with lightning quick combinations.
LedWhisky69 3 months ago
@PAULKEATING1 I didn't seem to forget anything about Foreman's age, but that doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Him winning the title in his 40s doesn't in any way make him a fighter that could take on Mike Tyson and beat him. That's quite a leap to even suggest it, actually. I also never said Tyson was unbeatable, so stop putting words in my mouth. I just know that Foreman was not the man to do it. I'd give Liston a better chance at Tyson than I would Foreman. No doubt.
LedWhisky69 3 months ago
@PAULKEATING1 BTW, I've heard before this story about Tyson being scared to fight 40+ year old George Foreman and I have a very hard time accepting that as truth. In all of Tyson's career, I can't imagine he was ever so scared to fight anyone that he simply backed away from the fight. I think that story is horseshit. Every fighter feels fear, but Tyson was no coward. Certainly not and I'm quite certain that Tyson would have beaten George Foreman even during his prime. I have little doubt.
LedWhisky69 3 months ago
@PAULKEATING1 Oh, and just so you know, that stupid article was written by some Tyson hater over at EastSideBoxing. Obviously, it's laced with bias and supposedly second/third hand accounts. I don't buy it and f you had a brain, you would buy it either. On the other hand, we do have a TRUE story from '99 where a matchup between Tyson and Foreman was attempted again and Tyson's manager, Shelly Finkel, couldn't even get Foreman on the phone. That's a true story.
LedWhisky69 3 months ago
@LedWhisky69 You mean Tyson wanted to fight him when he was 50 years old and about to retire ye i think he was a bit late. Tyson had so many chances to fight George Foreman and he did'nt. You can say that the accounts are "laced with bias and supposedly second/third hand accounts" but the fact of the matter is Tyson was afraid to fight Foreman and somewhere along the line was asked to fight Foreman and declined.1999 was probably the only time Tyson thought he had a chance of beating Foreman(50
PAULKEATING1 3 months ago
@PAULKEATING1 Tyson in 1999 was a shell of his former self, also, so it wouldn't have mattered. That fight wouldn't have answered any questions for anyone, regardless. The truth is that a Tyson/Foreman fight was never really in the cards. In the '90s, King had control over Tyson's career and Foreman wanted no part of that. Tyson, after losing to Douglas, wouldn't have been interested in fighting Foreman. He wanted the belts back and Holyfield was the man in his sights.
LedWhisky69 3 months ago
@PAULKEATING1 Im a fan of both and read every book on both men. The fact is Forman was very worried to fight Tyson in 91 and was only going to do it if the money was huge. When Tyson was with his first management team they were eager to set up a fight with Forman. In fact it was in the works after the Bruno fight but when King took over Tyson they ax that plan. In the book Money, Power, and Greed Tyson thought Forman would be easy. He hit hard but so what. Tyson had speed & power, and hard 2 hit
b7r7u7c7e 3 months ago
@combatesdeboxeo You're fucking joking....
PROTOCON85 3 months ago
@combatesdeboxeo tyson was good in his prime.
ggg657575ggl 3 months ago
@ggg657575ggl yes he was very good.... but still foreman had the style and the power to destroy tyson.
combatesdeboxeo 3 months ago 9
Foreman is considered the strongest boxer of all time and one of the hardest hitting HUMANS that have ever lived. He made up his somewhat poor technique with brute strength.
Ol0fsson 5 months ago
@Ol0fsson yah think lol?
LVSWTZ 1 month ago
He was hitting the hardest part of the heavy bag, and the bottom of Everlast heavy bags feel like you're hitting an inflated car tire bare fisted.
inbredagogo 5 months ago
I wished that bag was all the racist Whites in the world mixed into one.
destroyxeverything 5 months ago
Lol a prime Tyson woould "destroy" a prime Foreman? That comment just proved to the world that u clearly dunno shit about boxing.
Tyson ducked a 40 year old Foreman. That says alo of him if rhetorically going toe to toe with a prime Foreman.
destroyxeverything 5 months ago
Prime Tyson would DESTROY a Prime Foreman im a HUGE fan of both but Tysons sheer speed and devastating punching power would beat Foreman
TheLeithBoy 5 months ago
@TheLeithBoy you're an idiot.
gameboy010203 5 months ago
@gameboy010203 agreed
oscie1 5 months ago
@gameboy010203 your a wanker
TheLeithBoy 5 months ago
@TheLeithBoy love it when idiots respond with "No , YOUR an idiot".
No Einstein ....it's YOU'RE ......short for YOU + ARE .......and you're the idiot.
gameboy010203 5 months ago
@gameboy010203 yep!
LVSWTZ 1 month ago
@TheLeithBoy Tyson would get knocked out by Foreman, Frazier, Ali, Shavers, Quarry, Lyle, Snipes, Young and Leon Spinks.
seka1986 5 months ago
@seka1986 Troll more
DogSoldier999isback 5 months ago
@DogSoldier999isback Truth hurts.
seka1986 5 months ago
@seka1986 I am sorry but that is no fact because they have never fought. Look if they fought then you were telling the 'truth' but they didn't.
DogSoldier999isback 5 months ago
@seka1986 what? cmon man lol, tyson would destroy shavers,snipes, or leon spinks, he would stop quarry ,lyle and young in great fights, maybe he would stop even frazier. i agree on foreman and ali.
combatesdeboxeo 5 months ago
Osama should be reincarnated into that bag
flymaster 5 months ago
I wish that bag was khadafi!
geert574 5 months ago
God of Punch , God of Knock Out !
galufthebest 5 months ago 2
Foreman crushes Tyson, Superman crushes Batman and the Incredible Hulk smashes all of them. Thank You! GOODNIGHT EVERYBODY!!!
BBS350 6 months ago 13
@BBS350
at the risk of sounding like a nerd, galactus would rape the hulk
twmmay 6 months ago
@BBS350 tyson would fuck up foreman anyday anyplace anytime Thank you and go fuck yourself
berealandstaytrue 3 months ago
@berealandstaytrue calm down...you must be Mike Tyson's girlfriend...HA..HA..HA..HA..HA..HA..HA..HA..HA..HA!!!
BBS350 3 months ago
@BBS350 im the truth read my name
berealandstaytrue 3 months ago
@berealandstaytrue, what a tit you are. Foreman would wipe the floor with Tyson, clean around the back of the toilets with Tyson, blow his nose on Tyson, screw Tyson up in to a little ball and then throw Tyson in to the nearest dust bin.
RihannasBikeSeat 3 months ago
@berealandstaytrue Yes im sure he would if he could build up the balls to get in the ring with Foreman Hhaa Typical Tyson fan ! ! ! it was Foreman's dream to fight Tyson . . watch?v=H1U-W6dQGHo&feature=related
PAULKEATING1 3 months ago
@PAULKEATING1 if kevin rooney was his trainer and prepared him for the fight he would have beaten him it would have gone to points what ever the case a great fight i reckon tyson would have 1 coz foreman had his hands down to often
berealandstaytrue 3 months ago
@berealandstaytrue Highly doubt that Tyson would have won that's my opinion ! ! !Ye there could have been a fight if Tyson was'nt to affraid to fight him. George Foreman lasted to the 12 round against Evander Holyfield and that was when he was 42 and Evander Holyfield was undisputed heavyweight champion in peak condition so just imagine George in his prime ! He would have destroyed Tyson ! ! !
PAULKEATING1 3 months ago
Old George would not been able to deal the Tyson's movement, but Foreman still had power, but Tyson wont stand in front of you, young Tyson was always attacking and I would not have wanted to see Foreman, get his third loss that way by KO like Larry Holmes against Tyson. However, Ali in this video would not allow George to intimidate him, instead he did the intimadating making George think he was crazy and unpredictable, as the fight played out, just absolute genious by Ali...
carlosam16 6 months ago
@carlosam16
Foreman was able to take every single punch Holyfield threw at him. He managed to daze Holyfield, even stagger him at one occasion. He lost, but he lost against a prime Evander Holyfield (as juiced up as a professional boxer can possibly be), who had all advantages in his favor. Holyfield, a counter-puncher, definetely had the old George by the balls. Tyson, an inside fighter, would be required to bring the fight to George. And you DO NOT want to trade punches with George Foreman.
MrRoyalFatness 5 months ago
@MrRoyalFatness I mentioned nothing about Holyfield...what are you talking about?
carlosam16 5 months ago
@carlosam16
If you knew how to put 2 and 2 together, you would realize that I was comparing Tyson and Holyfield, seeing as Foreman never fought Tyson. You claimed that Tyson would have been too fast for George. As we all know, Holyfield was too good for Tyson on two occasions. I don't see how Tyson would have had less trouble with Foreman than Holyfield had. Do you understand me now?
MrRoyalFatness 5 months ago
@MrRoyalFatness Hard to put your 2 and 2 together..But young Tyson that faught holmes would have stayed in George Chest more. Evander tho, beating him keeping him moving faster, barring down on him...Young Foreman would have been too much, but older Foreman, smarter would have had to deal with alot of movement and power from Tyson, than Evander. I believe Evander won on a decision, but I think Tyson would find a easier time with old Foreman because he stays in front of him. Evander was faster.
carlosam16 5 months ago
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HowYea 6 months ago
@setsallset: The article "Why we never saw Tyson-Foreman" is a complete lie spread by the Foreman camp that has a lot of clueless people like you fooled. Tyson never ducked Foreman. Tyson-Foreman never happened because Tyson was UNDISPUTED champion at the time, and Foreman got his ass kicked by a skinny Evander Holycheater, so Foreman never had the RIGHT to even challenge Tyson. If Foreman beat Holycheater, I mean Holyfield, that Tyson-Foreman would have happened. But Foreman got his ass kicked.
jacksonwenpire 6 months ago
@jacksonwenpire
Yes but Tyson has admitted that sluggers like Foreman and Liston would beat him. Cus d Mato told him he could never beat them, because he went forward.
shadows987987 5 months ago
@jacksonwenpire Actually you're wrong. Tyson had lost his title to Douglas in January 1990. 10 months later Holyfield KO'd Douglas and was the undisputed champ. Foreman fought Holyfield for the title in April 1991 at the same time as when Tyson was fighting Ruddock. Holyfield was the champion. Not Tyson.
HenryTheJoker 5 months ago
@setsallset: I need to learn more about boxing? LMFAO, really dude? You thought that FOREMAN was a SWARMER, and that TYSON was a BRAWLER! and that you want ME to learn more about boxing? ME? LMFAO you really gave me a good laugh on that one. You're entire post is wrong and is an epic fail.
jacksonwenpire 6 months ago
@setsallset: Brawlers don't ALWAYS beat swarmers. Foreman would get killed by Tyson because Foreman never moves his fucking head. Any boxing expert will tell you that.
ThurmanRaj 6 months ago
@setsallset: Err, you got everything in the wrong order. It supposed to be boxer beats brawler, brawler beats swarmer, and swarmer beats boxer. You did it the other way around, dumb ass. And then you went and told @jacksonwenpire to learn a bit more about boxing? LOL, you really just embarrassed yourself pretty bad right there. Foreman is the brawler, not Tyson, you dumb ass. Tyson is the swarmer. And in this case Tyson the swarmer is gonna kill Foreman the brawler cauz Foreman is dumb and slow
ThurmanRaj 6 months ago
@setsallset: Tyson would knock stupid slugger Foreman out cold, period. Foreman destroyed Frazier only because Frazier charges into him like an idiot. Frazier is there to be hit, Tyson isn't. Prime Tyson with his peek-a-boo defence would EASILY get on the inside and murder Foreman. Foreman isn't even going to TOUCH prime Tyson. Tyson moves his head in 8 directions vs Frazier's 2. Foreman would get killed by Tyson's lightning fast combinations, period.
JamesWilliamsDallas 6 months ago
KellingtonBuzz: Please, Tyson would fuck Foreman up. Muhammad Ali himself said that not only did Tyson hit harder than Foreman and Shavers, Tyson is also THE GREATEST. So gtfo you ignorant motherfucka.
jacksonwenpire 6 months ago
@jacksonwenpire you need to learn a bit more about boxing. Brawlers beat Boxers, Boxers beat Slugger, and Sluggers beat Brawlers. Search for "Why We Never Saw Foreman-Tyson". Styles make fights. Simply put. Foreman, the slugger would walk all over Tyson, the brawler just like he walked over Frazier. It's the styles...
setsallset 6 months ago
@jacksonwenpire How the fuck could Ali say anything about Tyson considering he had never even fought Tyson nor ever sparred with him. LOL! Stop making up shit. Ali NEVER said Tyson could hit harder than Foreman and Liston. That's an outright lie and you damn well know it. Go watch Arsenio Hall and watch Tyson telling the world that he had nowhere near the punching power of Foreman and Liston. The clip is on YouTube under the keyword "Arsenio Hall Ali Tyson". You'll find it.
HenryTheJoker 5 months ago
No skill, no brain, no heart. All overrated power and strength. Foreman used to be the biggest loser ever in Boxing. That''s why the bum retired for a decade because Jimmy Young completely embarassed and exposed him after Ali did.
VCthaGOATdunker 6 months ago
@MMAC0RE Shut your ignorant mouth AND quit with any medium that allows insight into your limited brain capacity.
chrisx2k6 6 months ago
Ali n Tyson r da the best ever Ali:greatest of all time!! Tyson: ring legend
Chrisnred 6 months ago
@MMAC0RE Maybe..Maybe not...You don't fucking know...A prime Tyson could take anybody out, at any given time...Same with Foreman...You just don't know...So shut you're fucking mouth you ignoramus.
chrisx2k6 6 months ago
As the saying goes, 'Bags dont hit back'
kingdaleclarke 6 months ago
it's hard to believe he was only 220LB
ericssson 6 months ago
I've *NEVER* heard a heavybag make that kind of noise after being hit by any other boxer...
PS, the film that this clip comes from is worth owning and seeing in it's entirety. Really good.
andxx0r 6 months ago
SLOW AS FUCK, COMPARE FOREMAN TRAINING TO TYSON TRAINING
gregm20072007 6 months ago
@gregm20072007 Lol Do you even know how big George Forman is?? He obviously not punching as fast as he can.
thisiswarson 6 months ago 10
@thisiswarson he is so powerfull but ali proved strength " which he had " is worthless unless u put speed into it .. i'm trying to work both them into my routine , will take a while but if u have a few seconds check my bagwork please .. thanks :D
calbo555 5 months ago
@calbo555 Your bagwork is useless, foreman would slap you into next week.
MegaDiamond001 5 months ago
@MegaDiamond001 hardly useless and obv not near as good as him he was the best in the world at one point , im just messing about .. foreman was slow ali dominated him :D
calbo555 5 months ago
@calbo555 Face it, as irritated as you are by foreman's ability you know if he could have lasted 15 rounds with that much power, ali's speed would have been like your bagwork, useless.
MegaDiamond001 5 months ago
@MegaDiamond001 first doesn't irritate me one bit he was a good champ but ali was superior , second foreman couldn't make over 8 rounds never mind 15 you stupid fuck watch some fights .. ali lasted 15 rounds nearly every fight and had the speed and power to destroy people his full career !
calbo555 5 months ago
@calbo555 A weakling like yourself doesn't deserve fists to fight with.
MegaDiamond001 5 months ago
@MegaDiamond001 that's coming from a gimp like you ? good one , walk on fatty
calbo555 5 months ago
@calbo555 You piece of shit suck your fat nan, cunt
MegaDiamond001 5 months ago
@MegaDiamond001 you make sense you keyboard faggot
calbo555 5 months ago
@calbo555 CUNT! You need to be taught a lesson in your ass you CUNT!
MegaDiamond001 5 months ago
@MegaDiamond001 be quiet you idiot, you like guys asses you fucking mongo
calbo555 5 months ago