john rah talk on moses from a critical view point

[halpyman]

you say you know the israelite story the best and obviously you don't

[halpyman]

Hello, The Isrealites and moses all witnessed G-d on mount sinai. This is the basis of Judasim, everyone heard G-d. Moses was a prophet of G-d not a king, or tyrant.

[hermandontsuck]

ok man you said the old testimate yes for christians then new testemit is great... if you read the new testimate jesus says dont murder dont rob dont commit incest and dont sacrafic god was ensuring that his people survive and i think your forgetting that the people who they murdered and killed were terrible people in there own right

[johnnierah]

no. we like to think those we murder deserve to be murdered. but those who murder are murderers.

as for jesus and the new testament. i love jesus. he is my favourite character of any book. and he rejected the laws of moses. he called the priests and lawyers a bunch of snakes. then they nailed him for saying it.

[hermandontsuck]

then nailed im becouse he was so controvertial that he was widly ridiculed with very few followers then the thing that set it off was him saying he was the son of god and based on how,for lack of a better word "crazy" i can kinda see why they would they didnt nail him for rejecting the priests and lawyers it was to them what he did was blasphemy and at that time the religeon of the emperor was the religeon of the state andtherefor the law of the state

[johnnierah]

they nailed him to please the jewish priests and lawyers. at their request. the people had been partying in the streets the day before. the roman's had no beef with him. blasphemy is only a term with meaning if there is authority in religion. for that matter, even state.

i am god. no one will nail me for saying that. for we know now that we all are gods. anyone is free to say. i am god and religion sucks. for the truth shall be free to be.

[hermandontsuck]

maby a few but a majority of the jewish people were not priests and lawyers, and back then their was a lot of authority in religeon and yes the romans did have a beef with him in the bible it would talk about people trying to sell false idels and the apostles would ruin bussines by saying not to buy them the roman emperor was considered a god back then so it was very blasphemous to them too

[johnnierah]

thank christ there are only a few of these elite leaders. the system can't support their appetite. what's funny is how very little has changed in our system. one still gets in trouble when one speaks out against false idols. like tv. cars. money.

but for something different. let's talk about paul. and or the temple of what's her name, she had many. the goddess of life.

paul was more influential in defining the church as a daughter company of the synagogue than jesus.

you start.

peace

[hermandontsuck]

im not quite clear what you mean by a daughter company of the church please ilaborate and i will give my responce -- note:im am not an expert on apostles or religeon in itsself i just seem to be realy good at finding the hidden messages in scripture so if i give what you deem to be an inadequit responce for give me, im only a sophomore in highschool

[johnnierah]

the elite have taken control of this planet. the old testament is a book of wars and laws. moses killed anyone who did not obey him. the synagogue is the prostitute of the military might that protects the elite. and when jesus was dead, the romans made a system the same as the system they had taken over.

the israelites originally wanted to have all nonjews dead. take all the resources of the planet. christianity was made by jews like paul to teach mute obedience.

keep us from thinking.

[johnnierah]

the first business, and this can be seen in all history books and religions, is:

war and plunder.

it is still how wealth is made. and religion is an attempt to glorify and justify our brutal conduct.

most people work willingly for this system because we are lead to believe that it pays well.

take a look. the biggest business is war and mining. so you have the choice to become a soldier or work in the mines.

it is that simple.

or you take a walking part in the war against the war lords.

[hermandontsuck]

it seems like your getting into history here and on that subject i have no knowledge, so until im in college and learn about that stuff.... god bless, or in ur case ---science bless

[johnnierah]

or. gods bless.

peace

[halpyman]

Jesus never rejected the laws of moses, he and his brother james kept them perfectly

[IKnowThings]

yes "believe me or die" very typical of despots.

ignorant obedience is now perpetrated by tv feeding approved "info" to the slaves.

[johnnierah]

the story, though not the props, remains the same.