The Rules of Engagement in Iraq Are a Joke: Elaine Brower & Ethan McCord | UNPC 7/24/2010

[idangle6]

its not the american people who are to blame its the fucking government people are starting to riot though shit aint right

[haklbarry2]

@idangle6 Break out of the system :)

[thefakeyeti]

@JockBhoy67

So, I have no right to criticize our foreign policy, and our role in the world, becausesome of YOUR "buddies" died there..

Reallly... REALLY? COME ON, these wars are unwinnable, and a growing amount of americans are agreeing with that view point.

[thefakeyeti]

Even if it weren't for wikileaks/bradley manning, soldiers talk.....

[Blosblosblos]

If you venture into Iraq you know the risks there is not a chance to land the heli and ask them are you terrorists.... All of you guys are stupid.

Saddam could be responsible for more than 200 000 deaths. You say the war is not justified? WTF

[thefakeyeti]

@Blosblosblos

How many of those lives were american lives?

Why should we concern ourselves with the deaths of those over seas? In rwanda 800,000 deaths happened, we didn't lift a finger... which was good because that is NONE of OUR concern, and if we did intervene we would still have soldiers there to "keep the peace", sucking up more of our resources...

[thefakeyeti]

@thefakeyeti Also, Saddam was taking care of, if you wanted justice there, justice has been taking care of..

How is our CURRENT presence there helping?

[Blosblosblos]

@thefakeyeti U didnt care what happend in Afghanistan look were that got you. 4000+ AMERICAN deaths.

[thefakeyeti]

@Blosblosblos

So, killing many more civilians, in a futile attempt to force our type of government on them, somehow brings them back?

I believe in the war on terror, but with stealth and bullets, not brute force and bombs to "send a message that we are not a country to be messed with"

Also, how much of a link is there REALLY between raq and AL-queda? I thought they were enemies...

So, to say 9/11 gives us justifications to randomly attack dictators is flawed imo

[thefakeyeti]

@Blosblosblos Oh, and what happened in Afghanistan that I don't care about?

What I don't care about is forcing our values unto them, and assuring that THEIR people are free and safe..

We should be caring about our own, our attitude of constantly meddling in the middle east is what got us here to begin with!

in 1953, we overturned Iranian elections to get a guy in that best suited OUR interests...

[Blosblosblos]

@thefakeyeti Haha. if you read my text again i said afganistan not iraq taking care of an opponent before he can strike is better than taking care of him afterwards. Just saying what your saying tells me how little you know.

You could have prevented Pearl Harbour you didnt because of your passive style to the war you were raped with your pants down. There are so many examples were global now isolation does not work.

[thefakeyeti]

@Blosblosblos "you could have prevented pearl harbour, you didn't because of your passive style to the war"

We wound up dropping a WMD on them, which I mayactually back if a country attacks US first, which they did..

Do you recommend that we attack china before they attack us? or what if they decided to attack us, would you not blame them because we MAY have attacked them?

[TheOrdovician]

To tjd963: What you are saying is that it is basically okay to go kill civilians if there is the slightest chance they might be terrorists or soldiers. I find your attitude disturbing and disgusting. Not to mention there is really no need. Other western military don't act paranoid and trigger happy the way Americans do. I now this from friends who served with Americans. Americans generally scare the local population. Luckily the American military is improving. Perhaps too late.

[publicmario17]

@TheOrdovician Actually British holds record for being the mostly friendly fire incident per rate. We have more but the Brits hve the higher rate of FF per rate. It's well-documented that their rate is just as high as us. The reason you hear from the US because we have deployed 10 times more than any other nation. Google up the neighbors. So one thing that the US has higher FF but this goes to the Brits.

To say other western nations don't do like the US does that shows how ignorant you are.

[tjd963]

there's a reason the army trains you to be cold hearted and shoot at what you officer says to, because bleeding hearts will get your squad mate killed. a innocent looking civilian one second can arm himself and shoot the man next to you because you shot at a roof top because you thought he was alright.

[airforcemax]

There are plenty of documentaries that prove it was a mistakes to have supported Saddam Hussein. Many who hate President Obama support his "war" policies only because they began under GW Bush. Why can't these people realize that most conflict the US began have been discredited, but corrupt US government agencies with the private sector who benefit from wars will always suppress the truth even from the likes as former US Navy SEAL and Governor Ventura. I suggest watching his program and to decide

[COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY]

CAPITALISM AND IMPERIALISM HAS KILLED OVER ONE BILLION PEOPLE ON THIS EARTH

(spread this all over the internet far and wide)

[44warjunkie]

I hate when civilians talk trash about military personal who do things in the heat of battle that may not be right but necessary. Do they think there’s a script for fighting a war without pissing somebody off? Follow the rules and nobody gets hurt? Innocent civilians have and they will will always die in future wars. Why? Because that is the byproduct of war. People are always in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[airforcemax]

@44warjunkie War about US combat veterans that criticize wars that began with lies only for the US military, the FBI, the CIA, and enough agencies to suppress dissent and to spy on protesters that include war veterans?

[thefakeyeti]

@44warjunkie "innocent civilians have and they will will always die in future wars. Why? Because that is the byproduct ofwar. People are always in the wrong place at the wrong time." Exactly the reason I and others believe the war on terror is unwinnable...

And with other wars we fought there was a government we disliked, and we took out THAT specific GOVERNMENT, how do you beat a organization that knows no country?

[44warjunkie]

@thefakeyeti to end the war on drugs you legalize drugs, but what do you do exactly to end the war on terror? legalize terror? Unfortunatly this is the only way to go.

[thefakeyeti]

@44warjunkie

"what do you do eaxactly to end the war on terror? legalize terror?" Get our troops out of the middle east, that will cut down DRASTICALLY on what MOTIVATES them...

From there, we still have basic security, if someone buys a lot of fertilizer but aren't farmers that should be a giant GIANT red flag.. Limits on gun powder etc etc

[44warjunkie]

@thefakeyeti Contrary to popular belief, their discord with the West are not just political but theological. I mean their list of grievances is endless and replenishing. As soon as you make some concession they put forth another demand. They are like that five year old brat who doesnt want to do anything for anyone and only wants his way. In their eyes this is an ongoing conflagration that has been going on since the 7th century and the Crusades. We should heed history as much as they do.

[MrNodough]

THANK YOU ETHAN AND BRADLEY!!! HANG IN THERE ETHAN MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU.

[MrNodough]

you tube is ran by the regime has not been allowing me to give thumbs ups and now prompts me for an id code to post a comment, stating some bs that I have recently posted. We had better find another way to break the silence next the internet will be cooped.

[airforcemax]

@MrNodough Who benefits from preventing information to exposing people who still benefit from injustices to include war. On YouTube everyone can listen to Smedley Butler's(received 2 US Congressional Medal of Honor) comment that War Is A Racket and President Eisenhower warning on the Military-Industrial Complex along with US military veterans that have their information opposed with misinformation and lies. Listen to Hank Williams Jr song "What You Don't Know (Won't Hurt You)"and read the words.

[MrNodough]

@ind0ctr1n3 this will not let me give you a thumbs up so here is is DITTTTTOOOOOO!!!! BRADLY MANNING THE PEOPLE'S SOLDIER AND ETHAN TRUE PATRIOTS AND REAL COURAGEOUS SOLDIERS!!!

[MrNodough]

THANK YOU ETHAN THE PEOPLES TRUE SOLDIER !!! I WISH THERE WERE MORE LIKE YOU AND THEN I COULD TRULY BE A PROUD AMERICAN IF THERE WERE.

When are people going to wake up and realize that our military is nothing more than the henchmen for the elites and an excuse to launder more money to the weapons industry.

[ituck100]

ok now the truth comes out instead of that lame excuse for why a chopper gunner is killing everone for carrying cameras.and yes i know there were a couple of ak's shit with a bunch of crazy fucks killing everyone i would be carrying to dambit

[ituck100]

rules of engagement?there is rules when murederig a fellow human?this is bullshit the army doesnt care about you or me they are crazy and we have to get rid of these people.

[sunlightblessing]

so what you get is , we have a holocaust occurring in america its called the war on drugs, instead of gassing innocent people to death they t fine tax or imprison them for no god damned reason , and with no scientific validity to their witch hunt theories, it is a war to divide the people against themselves while playing patriotic music, the politician are the only true threat to america , the corporates, etc, .

[sunlightblessing]

and you say well i don't belove people should be free , in america, i don't agree with freedom, some people should be able to drink beer and others should be able to buy guns but you shouldn't be able to grow herbs or mushrooms or peyote cacti because i don't believe in freedom, and when you say i like free countries i mean i like free countries that persecute their own people for cultivating gods plants, because that is the type of intelligence americas are stupefied into by fear

[sunlightblessing]

people think america is good, that means that america can get away with all evil , even hitler levels of evil, instead question everything and hold the politicians to the "fire" ( your intelligent use of mind , not violence, just words and demanding change ) , the politicians are the most and greatest threat to our liberty , they have convinced you that something grows out of the ground is a threat to the world but it cures cancer, how is that freedom ?

[sunlightblessing]

remember when they say terrorists hate our freedom, the only people getting rid of our freedom are the politicians, period ,

at what point do you realize that when a plant that grows out of the ground is ilegal to smoke even though it cures cancer, that you are not living in a free society ? see, blind obedience to authority only creates stupidity and creates endless tools is evil + vs evil vs evil, vs evil, if you think our nation is free how will you be able to spot its tyranny?drugwar=lie

[MrNodough]

@sunlightblessing THIS NAZI RAN YOU TUBE IS DEFECTING AND I CANNOT GIVE THUMBS UP. BUT DITTO.

[sunlightblessing]

USA = better than some countries and worse in terms of LIBERTY than others , but let me tell you only the VERY SMARTEST PEOPLE WE CAN IMAGINE WILL SAVE THE WORLD, YOU MUST BE ABLE TO QUESTION EVERYTHING AND COME TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS TO THE POINT THAT YOU DO NOT EVEN think that what you think is "true " is true, pride in your beliefs creates wars for no reasons,

there is NO WAR when people on both sides refuse to be dicked around by AUTHORITY as i've said US is better than dictatorships

[sunlightblessing]

the US is a corporation, it is not a free natino, it is not worth defending nor overthrowing, the biggest change to world peace is getting rid of the military industrial complex, or using it with integrity , the solution are hard to come to a big picture bit requires that EVERYONE ON PLANET EARTH SWEAR ALLEGIANCE TO NO AUTHORITY , ONLY THEIR OWN CONSCIENCE AND DIGNITY , because only YOU know what is right and wrong ,

it is TRUE we must not have dictatorships, USA = better than dictatorships

[ind0ctr1n3]

@sunlightblessing I wonder... Where on the list do US supported dictatorships go then? Let's not forget Saddam was a close friend of the US for many years - The chemical weapons he supposedly used were US made.

If anything, soldiers like Ethan Mccord and Intelligence Officers like Bradley Manning are true patriots for trying to defend the principles the US should have. The real traitors are the people who train your children to kill indiscriminately to 'solve' problems they themselves created.

[MrNodough]

@ind0ctr1n3 this will not let me give you a thumbs up so here is is DITTTTTOOOOOO!!!! BRADLY MANNING THE PEOPLE'S SOLDIER AND ETHAN TRUE PATRIOTS AND REAL COURAGEOUS SOLDIERS!!!

[sunlightblessing]

there is only one force of evil in this world, america is not worth protecting becuase it is not real, the US constitution is the only thing about america worth protecting, the rest is the power elite and their idea that WAR MUST BE DECLARED ON PLANET EARTH , the CURE FOR CANCER IS MARIJUANA, among many others, they have declared WAR ON PLANTS THAT GROW OUT OF THE GROUND, to fuck YOU over , and tax you blind ,

i tell you there is no enemy , but evil, and no goodness but good,

[DavidnAmy10]

@stratshredder: Look you tree hugging nut, I never said it was ok to kill kids. It is apparent that you can't comprehend what you read. I said they have to make a choice let 50 men/women die or kill 1 where that 1 person/kid has a bomb strapped to his back or stomach waiting and wanting to kill all Americans they see. Since you have never been in that situation nor have family that have been in war that had to make quick life or death choices YOU have NO right to judge someone else.

[ToolFan68]

@DavidnAmy10 Another big talker that has no idea what he's talking about. Let me ask you friend... what's your MOS? Where did you do AIT and Basic? Where where you stationed in Iraq? Yeah... I thought so.

[ToolFan68]

@DavidnAmy10 DavidnAmy10 Another big talker that has no idea what he's talking about. Let me ask you friend... what's your MOS? Where did you do your AIT and Basic? And, where exactly were you stationed in Iraq?? Al Basrah, Fallujah, Najaf ? How many tours so far? Uh, yeah... I thought so Mr. "stratshredder-wannabe". Now go practice the Phrygian scale on your cheap Squier and maybe read up on why we are in this fucked up war to begin with before you pop off again with such a weak post. :)

[ToolFan68]

Tree hugging Nut? Tree hugging Another big talker that has no idea what he's talking about. Let me ask you friend... what's your MOS? Where did you do your AIT and Basic? And, where exactly were you stationed in Iraq?? Al Basrah, Fallujah, Najaf ? How many tours so far? Uh, yeah... I thought so Mr. "stratshredder-wannabe". Now go practice the Phrygian scale on your cheap Squier and maybe read up on why we are in this fucked up war to begin with before you pop off again with such a weak post. :)

[600RR4Life]

i don't give a fuck he is a monster go to hell . i would love to put you down like fucking dog.

[arthurkitchen]

The rules are KILL EM ALL! Got it? Good! Long live America!!!!

[ToolFan68]

@arthurkitchen You need anger management and some serious therapy. You are a brainwashed stooge.

[marceloarraeste]

Only the americans cannot see that the US govern are in fact the great Terrorist.

[DLemre]

@marceloarraeste FINALLY someone speaks THE true words. Your 100% right man.

[theprofit1138]

@JockBhoy67 You'll pardon my way of speaking, and perhaps the term "brainwashed" is harsh describe the methods used in basic to train people to do what they need to do in a combat arena. The end result is the same, a soldier is trained to kill an enemy combatant. To do this it is necessary to dehumanize that enemy. I do feel remorse for a soldier today, because he\she is not fighting for liberty. if the US leaves, Iraq will go back to the way it was, they'll just hate us more.

[theprofit1138]

@JockBhoy67 I agree there are some real shit holes in the world... what's your point? You're offended by my comment about the Military training their soldiers to be Killers? I get that. It's a hard pill to swallow. Or maybe it was the comment about "pitying?" Iraq wasn't getting ready to invade any of our Allies, nor did they have any chemical weapons to through around. This war is about Oil, and Afghanistan is about Poppy Fields. BTW what did you pay for Gas this week?

[theprofit1138]

Live safe?! I've lived in a neighborhood where there was plenty of shooting going on; I never saw a soldier much less a cop until I moved out. Don't talk to me about soldiers protecting my safety, because for 25 years my little corner of the world was a war zone, right here in the USA.

[qurish1]

Naturally every country in the world is its occupation force will defend the people of his country and the victim are the boys cheated illegal war now, after years of the invasion of Iraq what was found in Iraq ????????????!!!!!!! !!!!!

[theprofit1138]

@JockBhoy67 I do pity the soldier, because he hasn't fought for me since WWII, that was my grandfather, and to him I leave a wreath on his grave every year. None of "our" sons have fought for any of "us" since then, not unless the "us" is Halliburton. Iraq is a war of vengeance, an illegal war and nothing more. Yes I pity the boys in our Armed Service. Anyone who thinks this is a fight "for freedom" is dreaming.

[carnifex714]

@theprofit1138 that is true

[airforcemax]

@theprofit1138 And anyone who agrees with your reply is depicted and anti-freedom and anti-American. President Obama has allowed injustice to Bradley Manning, Shirley Sherrod, and PJ Crowley who made statements about how people in the Middle East are not treated properly. What happened to the president's political courage to get his "hands" dirty ? He and supporters may benefit if they repudiate "Change We Can Believe IN !!" Read what Dr. Cornel West recently comments on the president.

[ssuuppeerrbbooyy]

@airforcemax So lets also invade Israel, North Korea and Saudi Arabia and half of african countries. Israel is basically keeping palestinians in a massive concentration camp, where they control everything that goes in and out. Saudi Arabia and North Korea are dictatorships no different from how Saddam Hussein operated. Jews control government on top levels, not to mention the media, and Saudis keep the oil flowing. Selling your principles for a good price is not a problem right?

[BrokenChairLeg]

@theprofit1138 Yeah because no-one attacked the US on September 11 2001........

[SandZakUSrcU]

@BrokenChairLeg Wake up and smell the coffee. This illegal war has nothing to do with September 11th.

[theprofit1138]

@BrokenChairLeg Saudis hijacked the planes, and a Saudi took responsibility for the attacks. If you believe that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11... I'll let you google your reply.

[theprofit1138]

My god, the "dehumanization" of an enemy started with the Romans, and continued into the modern era with the Nazis. Soldiers are brainwashed in basic training to be killers. Pilots are trained to detach themselves from the targets in the combat theatre to better kill without any emotional repercussion. Be they Taliban, Iraqi, Hezbollah, British, or American... they're all trained the same; "kill the enemy." Pity the soldier who fights for his country, for he sacrifices his soul and humanity!

[600RR4Life]

this man is a monster.

[firedragoncow1234]

@600RR4Life Rot in hell, you fuckbag. Seriously. I would fucking cut your head off if ever given the chance.

This man stood up against his own military's oppression. He saw that killing innocent people is wrong--something the government attempts to wash from their conscience.

So fuck you, you soulless fuck. He killed people, but he didn't have a choice. If he doesn't follow orders, he'll be thrown in jail and liable to be sentenced to death.

You fucking punk.

[itsfkndemsiibaby]

@firedragoncow1234 You're argueing human compassion by threatening to cut off someone's head? Interesting.

[firedragoncow1234]

@600RR4Life

He is on the stage, shaking and about to burst out into tears. He suffers from the nightmares of dismembered bodies strewn about the streets. How the fuck can you even utter the words "this man is a monster"? Are you fucking insane? You seriously have mental damage. I'm as fucking liberal as they come and will never enlist in the armed forces, but I understand that some people want to... and I still have massive amounts of respect for them and what they endure during war. Fuck you.

[radubojin]

@firedragoncow1234 was he "shaking and about to burst out into tears" when he pulled the trigger?

[CrysiSwkotor]

@radubojin he didn't pulled the trigger of the appache, he was on ground god damn!

[randylucky]

That is one brave young man! 

[oscarbarreta]

U.S. military forces suffered syndrome, they are always frightened with suspicious iraqi people, should they go to a psychologist

[opurzityouth]

what fuck r u talking about (4:45)....fuck the Rules of engagement! "when the troops feel threaten when they are been looked at u r free to engage" fuck u! they are only looking at u morons. not holding up AK47 n targeting on u. fuck the rules of engagement! its ur shit and still denying a war crime! nice one marine. cowardist!

[DavidnAmy10]

@soleillullaby: The US troops didn't ask to be sent there. Now that they are they have to protect themselves and their comrades.  When the cowards that attack them send kids with bombs strapped to them what else can a man do let 50 die or 1 person? I hate the war just as you, we should just nuke it and make a parking lot out of the place put our flags on the oil wells and say have a nice day

[najmxp]

@DavidnAmy10 that's why there is huge parking lot in downtown NY because of some arrogant fanatics like you.

[allianceFiLifeDotCom]

@DavidnAmy10 No every single troop has the option of refusing to kill innocent people. If none of the troop agree to committing crimes then no crimes will be committed.

[soleillullaby]

In war, everyone loses. :(

[allianceFiLifeDotCom]

@soleillullaby this is not a war. This is one country bullying another for no apparent reason except oil.

[Peidmonte89]

@allianceFiLifeDotCom for lack of a better word...Genocide....

[allianceFiLifeDotCom]

@Peidmonte89 bingo but hey its genocide unless it is us who are carrying it out.

[Peidmonte89]

@allianceFiLifeDotCom just a damn shame that this is but a reminder of our very nature. how did we fall so low?

[HomoLibero]

@Peidmonte89 ask Darwin

[soleillullaby]

@allianceFiLifeDotCom That is so true and very sad. I hope and pray they end this senselessness. We have accumulated too much garbage and it's reflected now in our environment. :(

[GordonMorrice]

Scratch your nose in Iraq - get shot.

Swat away a fly - get shot.

Tie shoe laces - get shot.

Hack into the CIA computers lookig for UFO stuff - go to jail for 25 years.

[BadN0ob]

@GordonMorrice You're right, this stupid bastards have no right to kill anyone in Iraq or in any other country. If they want to kill someone why don't this sons of bitches fire to themselfs?

[GordonMorrice]

If an Iraqi citizen can be greased even if they scratch their nose it seems.

[invincibleironman3]

@IgniteTheProphecy ... somebody already invaded us and killed us collaterally. It was called 9/11 .... and those that allowed it to happen to further their agenda.

[MrRollie51]

@invincibleironman3

what really happened on 911!?

[SuperOmnicron]

@MrRollie51 .... What happened indeed? Was it an attack on America or an attack against America? And who profited? Was it al-Qaeda? What is al-quieda? What was ABLE DANGER? A pretext to creat a extra-constitutional executive authority to declare "enemy combatants" (including American citizens) after 9/11- worldwide military hegemony and invasion of the Middle East began thereafter 2001. We can talk controlled demolitions, cover-up, but synthetic terror and war was the real aftermath of 9/11

[J1NX1337]

Vietnam "war" documentary anyone?

Sir! No sir! (12 minute trailer):

watch?v=rDk6Qal2DCI

Enjoy...

[TheAtheistStorm]

There are simply not enough recource's in this world to not have an army.

[hbkdavis]

cry me a river you bleeding heart wimps. if it were up to you, we would be defenseless,

[InsaneGoonRules]

@hbkdavis we are defenseless all our troops are freaking over seas. Did they defend us on 911? rofl. You sir are AN IDIOT!

[kathyowang2]

@hbkdavis defenseless? We can defend US without being in Iraq or Afghanistan and without having our soldiers killing innocent civilians for sport.. Many soldiers coming home suffer from their guilt for being part of illegal and immoral war.We need to make sure they are cared for and get whatever care they need that affects their recovery at home. We need to make sure they get jobs and training to reward them for their sacrifice and help them to again feel productive

and whole.

[amgaaaaad]

( Winter Soldier Jon Turner on DN-FCK the Corps ) search on youtube ...... go see what ur fucking troops are doing assholes

[RENTAMOB1]

so true , well put ! ! !

[JaysThoughts]

If it becomes treasonous to tell the truth, than only treasoners will be patriots.

[kirkoswald21]

Free unlimited power is the only answer for world peace!!!!

[mikecorbeil]

Excellent and very important talk by both persons in this video even if they didn't speak for long. And Ethan McCord's words should definitely raise emotions, the supportive kind, I mean. And it's great that this United National Peace Conference took place. It's good to see that the several videos for speakers at this conference are publicly available.

[danielbtwd]

before the turn of the 19th century the death ratio between soldiers and civilians in war scenarios was 1 civillian to 6 soldiers during the second world war the death ratio between civillians and soldiers was 6 to 6. Now the the statistics are 6 civillians to one soldier.

The wars are now being waged against the common man you and me for the benefit of the few. The irony is that everywhere all of this is being subsidised by the taxpayer. God help us all. Fair play to you Ethan.

[kittencartman]

You are the epitome of brave. Everyone respects and admires real bravery and speaking out is the ultimate act of bravery. It's people like you that make history, not the murdering sycophant cowards that paint themselves as protectors. thank you.

[lokallize]

wouldn't it be difficult to be combat effective if you did not switch off

[DavidnAmy10]

For those of you that are against America do us all a favor and quit breathing and go home to your "home country". This is real and not video games people die and sometimes it is the innocent that die and for that I am truly sorry.

[MrGunman11]

@DavidnAmy10 I wish that your child was used as you said, once your child dies or gets wounded like those kids in the van you will realize what you said was ignorant.

[DavidnAmy10]

@MrGunman11 You must be one of those nut jobs that wants to send men to war but you want the rules to be they cant protect themselves. Really!! you wish that on my kids, one day it may be you and your kids since you sound like a Taliban sympathizer. It also sounds like you are a member of a sleeper cell here in America. I guess you think the Holocaust did not happen either, well pull your head out of the sand and look around you. War is war and I hate it that kids have died as innocent's.

[DavidnAmy10]

One day soon America will do the worst thing possible other than turning away from God and that is will quit supporting Israel. Israel will do what needs doing and that is making a parking lot out of that country with nuclear missiles and put their (isael's) flag on all the oil wells and then there will not be any risk to them anymore. In a war where children are being used by our enemies to carry bombs and IED's to killl our men, then YES it is OKay to kill those kids.

[doccandie]

@DavidnAmy10 dude you have serious problems.

[DavidnAmy10]

@doccandie dude why you think that? Because I love my country, and I want our Soldiers to be able to protect themselves. When you are engaged in war, then the rules are thrown out. In a war you fight to win, not to lose as so many of you "long legged mac daddy" supporters want to believe. I truly wished kids did not have to die, but when they are in a war zone their risks of death goes way up. I have family members that were in Vietnam and now over in the sand pit. (continue on next post)

[soleillullaby]

@DavidnAmy10 The whole of Iraq is a war zone. Imagine putting yourself in that position and those are your kids. The shooters are obviously itching to shoot. For every children and mothers and fathers killed in Iraq---it's okay for your soldiers to kill them without questions because they have the same roles as the ones who are killed there. All are losers in this war.

[DavidnAmy10]

@doccandie These men that are soldiers have to make split second decisions and a slight hesitation means they come home in a body bag or bag's and that's if they can find all the body parts. These men and women die because a child walks up to them and under his clothes he has strapped a bomb to him self, for the very reason to KILL our soldiers. Who I might remind everyone these men and women are fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, husbands, wife's . So for how i feel I will not appologize

[doccandie]

@DavidnAmy10 I don't expect you or your kind to apologize, you are a murder plan and simple and that is why I said you have serious problems. I know that war and people like you must exist but I don't support you, murderous soldiers or war.

[stratshredder]

@DavidnAmy10 its ok to kill kids? Probably your mom should ve killed u as soon as u re born...DumbFuck

[mmmbeachlover]

'Every mother fucker on the street'...and as soon as war no longer is played out like it is in the movies...they come a crying.

Sort ya culture out uncle sam.

[mmmbeachlover]

Too many Jews running the USA to allow that, the below to happen, so the U.S. will continue to send its sons and daughters.

As for the 'shoot anything that feels threatening', then you guys need to take a long hard look at the psyche which ensures you protray 'tough' without being it.....that wanks off over discipline and following, but lacks that basic military fundamental when the heat is on.

Apologies to those they do cope, this is a generalisation, but one that seems appropriate

[mmmbeachlover]

Love, if they weren't trained in such a fashion we would have swathes of Ethans and never get any dirty military job done - get real.

Have all the troops out of the shitholes that are Iraq and Afganistan...leave the fundamentalists to take over (ignoring the butchery during the transition) and allow them a free run on pakistan.

Next up watch them eventually turn of Israel - most likely that Israel won't wait for that, then see real CARNAGE!

[EARTHQUAKE8448]

How would anyone react when the enemy beheads prisoners. Do they have rules.../;

[energeez]

what did he think he was signing up for....

[lawharrison]

@energeez to protect and not to murder perhaps...

[energeez]

@lawharrison well according to the president and the generals , protecting means blowing up people in iraq that are considered a threat. Ask the president why he makes the decisions.

[lawharrison]

@energeez i understand but soldiers in our military have choices other than orders or a bullet.

[energeez]

@lawharrison protesting the war is one thing, leaking massive amounts of intelligence is another.

[lawharrison]

@energeez our "intell" is bad joke with a death punchline. if we didnt commit atrocities around the world no one would care about what we know.

[energeez]

@lawharrison lmao@no one would care what we know. Yeah the rest of the world are saints, they dont care about money or greed or furthering their agendas or propaganda.

[lawharrison]

@energeez Nothing happens in the world that the government doesnt want to happen to happen other than this conversation.

[lawharrison]

compared to U.S. the rest of the world is a saint...this empire has become so intertwined with the rest of the world that our influence is corrupting everything. Im not saying all the worlds problems are the US gov fault but the half that we create could be the half that we try to mend. its so painstakingly obvious that common decency has been stomped completely out of our morality and the only people that notice claim its "just the way things are"...like i said its all a bad joke.

[invincibleironman3]

@energeez ... so genocide is "intelligence"?

[energeez]

@invincibleironman3 we don't know what is to become of the leak yet...

[ugha323a]

@energeez

Education.

We are being 'dehumanized' HERE.

the "rules of engagement' are USA: DO NOT FIRE, or else, so these guys are sitting ducks and ANYTHING they do will be a 'war crime'

Troops shold be brought home. ASAP. They have not the fortitude of our fathers or grandfathers, and the mothers as this one here are a joke.

[energeez]

@ugha323a fortitude?lol u dont know enough to talk like that. I find it funny that they are worried about commiting war crimes but when there commander tells them to kill everything, and that officers will protect them, they refuse lol. You cant have your cake and eat it too. Bottom line - this guy is not a killer. You have to be a killer in the army. Im not saying it is a easy thing, but you dont create the biggest leak in intelligence history since vietnam. Speaking of intelligence leak...

[AmericaLoudNClear]

@energeez

the only rules of engagement should be shoot at the guy with a diaper on his head.

[lambrightdotcom]

You are an American Hero for taking time and risk to give a voice to the voiceless.

[twistedspark2001]

"As long as there are sovereign nations possessing great power, war is inevitable."

-Albert Einstein

[shaneclone15]

why do ppl fight for this country?

[Marly61]

@shaneclone15 People fight for the US because they are totally manipulated and controlled into believing that they will benefit from its economic and political ideologies, Free Markets and Freedom, while they dont realize that, as the US press does not report, their standards of living and quality of life have decreased directly benefiting the richest americans who's real income increased 600 since the 70's implmentation of Pragmatic Neoliberalism while the average persons real income has droppe

[EARTHQUAKE8448]

@shaneclone15 Do you live here, if so why...?