Son of God, or Jesus Christ, and Holy Spirit all have different Greek terms, too. I'm on my way out, and don't recall the proper spelling of them right now, but I'd be happy to post them later if you'd like. They are all used separately in Divine Liturgy and Vespers services to this day as written by St. John Chrysostom.
Depends how you would choose to pronounce it, it can be pronounced THAY-OH-S, or THAY-AW-S. I'd be willing to accept either pronounciation and I understand the arguments each group would give. I, myself, prefer the pronouncement KUR-E-AY instead of Kee-ree-ay. I'm not sold on the modern pronunciation of Kurios--or the MGP as some dub it
Ah interesting, I didn't realize there was much an argument outside of the Southern USA Bible schools who use a clearly flawed Erasmus approach (who was a Latin, not Greek). Koine is still taught in Greek school, as well as spoken/chanted in the churches. There are some language differences, but those are context of words, and certain diphthongs that are no longer used. Other than that, the pronunciations are pretty spot on the same to what's considered 'modern greek'.
Well, that's simply incorrect. To say that the pronunciation is "spot on" the same is being dishonest. There isn't a single Greek scholar that claims that we know exactly how the Greek was pronounced. As far as a "clearly flawed" Erasmus approach, I'd tend to agree on most instances(with it being flawed that is)
you'll see the article 'του' (pronounced 'too')in front of each, and a 'και' (pronounced 'kay') between, which is 'and'. I remember in Catholic church, we even said Κυριε the same as the Greeks. Erasmus had some points on Ancient Greek which was by no means even close to Koine or Modern. Even Ancient Greek is still taught in Greek school when studying the classics.
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xxpowwowbluexx 1 year ago
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xxpowwowbluexx 1 year ago
θεός (soft Thay-OH-ce, long 'o') - God
Κυριε (Kee-ree-ay) - Lord
Son of God, or Jesus Christ, and Holy Spirit all have different Greek terms, too. I'm on my way out, and don't recall the proper spelling of them right now, but I'd be happy to post them later if you'd like. They are all used separately in Divine Liturgy and Vespers services to this day as written by St. John Chrysostom.
meestro 2 years ago
Depends how you would choose to pronounce it, it can be pronounced THAY-OH-S, or THAY-AW-S. I'd be willing to accept either pronounciation and I understand the arguments each group would give. I, myself, prefer the pronouncement KUR-E-AY instead of Kee-ree-ay. I'm not sold on the modern pronunciation of Kurios--or the MGP as some dub it
gnrhead 2 years ago
Ah interesting, I didn't realize there was much an argument outside of the Southern USA Bible schools who use a clearly flawed Erasmus approach (who was a Latin, not Greek). Koine is still taught in Greek school, as well as spoken/chanted in the churches. There are some language differences, but those are context of words, and certain diphthongs that are no longer used. Other than that, the pronunciations are pretty spot on the same to what's considered 'modern greek'.
meestro 2 years ago
Well, that's simply incorrect. To say that the pronunciation is "spot on" the same is being dishonest. There isn't a single Greek scholar that claims that we know exactly how the Greek was pronounced. As far as a "clearly flawed" Erasmus approach, I'd tend to agree on most instances(with it being flawed that is)
gnrhead 2 years ago
I was speaking in comparison to how Koine is spoken in the Church, and continues to be taught in Greek school today.
meestro 2 years ago
Πατρός (PahtrOHce) - Father
Υιου - Son
Αγιου Πνευματος (Ah-gee-oo Bevmahtoe-ce)- Holy Spirit
you'll see the article 'του' (pronounced 'too')in front of each, and a 'και' (pronounced 'kay') between, which is 'and'. I remember in Catholic church, we even said Κυριε the same as the Greeks. Erasmus had some points on Ancient Greek which was by no means even close to Koine or Modern. Even Ancient Greek is still taught in Greek school when studying the classics.
meestro 2 years ago
Thank you for posting.
God Bless †
FIDESetRATIOihtys 3 years ago
Bevmahtoe-ce? I have no idea where you got that pronunciation. I'll stick with PNEUMATOS.
gnrhead 2 years ago
Was this comment intended for someone else :-) ?
InToNicTeLeViSion 2 years ago
Sorry, I have no idea where the 'b' came from...You're right on the Pn...ευ is a diphthong pronounced 'ev' and sometimes 'ef'.
meestro 2 years ago