1700 Local. Retreat.

[pavelow235]

Thanks for posting brings me back.

[UrMomsBassist]

hmm... must be a hooah thing... in the marine corps, coloras are raised at 0800, and they are lowered at sunset! we never play retreat.... again... must be a hooah thing...

[armescout]

To the colors: All will present arms. If in civilian attire you place your right hand over your heart. If you are indoors you stand at attention facing the post flag or the sound of the music.

[armescout]

Reveille: Come to the position of attention, face the post flag or if unknown face the source of the music an present arms. If in civilian attire stand at attention.

Retreat: If alone in uniform come to the position of attention. If in formation the head of the formation will command parade rest. if in civilian attire come to attention.

[loveGG]

In response to the discription of this video. The colors are not raised at Reveille. Reveille is at 0500 in the morning and morning colors does not happen until 0800. While watching this video I did not know they played "To the Colors" while lowering the flag. I knew they played it while raising the flag during morning colors but I thought they lowered the flag while retreat was playing.

[1LTPETE]

With respect, every day for a year (2007), starting at 0600, at Camp Red Cloud, Korea, headquarters of the 2nd Infantry Division, REVEILLE was played immediately after the firing of a canon. The entire division staff was assembled prior. When the canon was fired & reveille started playing, the entire formation was brought to a position of attention and present arms. When reveille stopped, we dropped our salute. When the canon sounded and reveille played, the colors were raised simultaneously.

[rmorecook]

army and navy do flag ceremony slightly differently. Army raises the flag with reveille.

[snoopy54789]

@loveGG Only at U.S. Army posts are the colors raised at Reveille. Navy, Marine, Air Force and Coast Guard Posts Raise it at 8 AM.

[mcmillanndu]

@loveGGThere is a difference between Army/Air Force and Navy/Marine Corps customs. In the USA/USAF, the flag is hoisted while reveille is sounded. It is lowered at retreat (1700). The bugle call "Retreat" is sounded, the gun is fired, and the flag is lowered while "To the Color" is sounded. In the sea services, the flag is hoisted at morning colors at 0800 while the bugle sounds "To the Color," and lowered at sunset (evening colors) while the bugle sounds "Retreat."

[melissambloch]

when retreat is sounded all unifomed members go to attention when the firing is sounded it is a warning to units to present arms when to the colors is played that is when all personell in uniform salute and drop the salute after to the colorsa is over

[nydevils]

Ok, so what's protocol for this? You snap to attention then after the shot, you salute as flag as being lowered correct? when do you drop salute? Also. EVERYONE is expected to stop and those not in uniform in view of the flag are supposed to put hand over heart, yes?

[1LTPETE]

When the music FIRST begins military personnel turn to the direction of the music, even if you can't see the flag, and go to parade rest (or just rest). After the canon shot, and the music begins again, military personnel snap to a position of attention and render a salute. Once the music ends, military personnel drop salute and carry on w/business. Regarding civilians, hand over heart. If you're military in uniform you can still salute, and if you're retired military you can salute as well.

[melissambloch]

thank you soldiers

brother was army even he shes a tear at the playing of the natinal anthem

[Mefactor]

yeah, everyone trying to run to the nearest building because they knew this was coming......i always loved rendering a salute for this. Let Freedom ring

[shanghaiwolf]

My sentiments exactly. Whatever weather it is here in Italy, from 110 to snow, I will actually go outside at 1700 to pay my respects as we put the ol' Flag to bed every night. It is an honor and a privilege to be an American. The italians complain about the noise, but they dont even take thier flag down! Its all ratty too. Patriotism is frowned upon in Europe, this I have noticed.

[AutobahnSHO]

FYI

"Retreat" is the first part- after the cannon fire is called "To the Color."

[TonyMajestic]

Along with the sound of fighter jets putting me to sleep, this is what I miss most about living on base...RAF Mildenhall, England

[dieselscience]

When I heard this in Germany it usually meant - "No more than an hour 'till a beer/pretzel in one hand and my little blond girl in the other."

[EnsignSteve]

Hearing this when I was at Navy OCS was the greatest thing in the world - it meant that our Drill Instructor had left for the day!

[MarkXIX]

Ahh the fond memories of BCT at Ft. Jackson and the scramble of some "priv-it" yelling "FLAG!" F Co 3/60th Hoo-ah.

[CrazedMachine]

*stands at attention and salutes* Ah man great sounds of freedom :)

[rstar2008]

Camp Red Cloud, South Korea SUCKS!!!!!

[1LTPETE]

It's really not that bad.

[masterzen107]

just coming back from Fort Jackson, i miss the sounding of the bugle calls.

[taans]

they only play retreat at luke and the national anthem, same at sheppard afb but when i left they stopped doing that.

[wlittle]

I had never heard retreat sounded until last summer (2007) when I went to visit my sister and her husband who was stationed at Fort Carson, Colorado. Now it's one of my favorite bugle calls.

[texman81]

Thanks for the video. When I was on active duty at Fort Bliss back in the 60's this daily ceremony, at least for me, brought it all home as to why I was serving.

[34039thstreet]

I was in the MPs and as a 1LT was so often the PMDO that the bugle calls of Retreat and then To The Colors echo in my sleep. It was good to hear them sounded again and to recall the pride I ever felt as I reached up to grasp the flag and begin folding it. Thanks, 1LTPETE, for posting this video!

[FreedomsGateway]

What does this video have to do with politics or american policies? It's a video that shows a military custom being peformed. Nothing more. At end of a duty day we sound retreat and lower the american flag. There is nothing political about it. Btw the canons before to teh colors are awesome, reminds me of when I was at gordon.

[JNmovies123]

you idiot its nothing with politics its a custom.the BSA also do this tradition

[FreedomsGateway]

Wow you just said exactly what I said. So what hole did you crawl out of?

[Svenson1981]

Ah, you are some korea invaders.

[1LTPETE]

Ah, you are a contemporary brownshirt, spewing your blindly accepted anti-American dogma; with a bruised European ego.

[n14e5o15]

I don't see what fascism has to do with it.

I'm amused by your use of the words "bruised European ego". The decline of an empire or a "sphere of infuence" (depending on the era) is bound to result in psychological projection now and then. It was painful for Europeans in the early twentieth century just as it is for Americans now. No doubt you'll get over it in a few decades.

[n14e5o15]

And by the way in my opinion the U.N. action (U.N. action?) against N. Korean aggression was justified, but MacArthur's subsequent invasion was rash, started a proxy war with China and wasted millions of lives.

[1LTPETE]

It must be quite convenient for you, 60 years and thousands of miles removed from the situation, to conclude that General MacArthur's "subsequent invasion was rash." I would find it difficult for any American commander to accept a situation in which he'a prevented from decisively engaging and eliminating a legally recognized threat.

[1LTPETE]

To merely halt at a politically convenient latitude, devoid of any tactical or operational advantage, and simply attempt to hold that militarily disastrous position while echelon after echelon of Chinese and Soviet armed and supported North Koreans pummel and infiltrate that line? I think not.

[n14e5o15]

MacArthur also wanted a nuclear attack against China. I think that speaks for itself.

Also, China's involvement in the war started in earnest when MacArther's troops began to approch her borders. If staying away from Chinese and trying to negociate the cessation of the war from the 38th Parallel (or even from, say, Pyongyang) was a bad idea, then provoking further Chinese involvement was disasterous.

[1LTPETE]

Truman obviously would not have allowed such an action - since he removed General MacArthur well in advance, so I don't think your notional nuclear attack against China assists your argument; which is what? Had the Chinese not intervened, and since Truman was not interested in a wider war to the greatest possible extent, I find it difficult to believe that tanks would have soon thereafter advanced north of the Yalu.

[1LTPETE]

We're here, of course, (with the Brits and other allies) at the behest of the Republic of Korea, which could at a moments notice insist upon the departure of the American military presence - which I can report to you with confidence that those Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines from all countries would only be too happy to oblige.

[n14e5o15]

I'm not accusing the US of occupying South Korea.

[1LTPETE]

Your point is mute, for there's nothing to "get over." And check your open sources, the American military footprint has been, and is being, enormously reduced. Perhaps you should also investigate the positions of the recently elected Lee Myung-bak.

[n14e5o15]

I was saying that the US will evetually get over the decline of her dominant position in the world, as her military presence and her political influence are reduced. You asked me to check my sources. What facts are you disputing exactly?

[1LTPETE]

First, the use of the word "invasion" to describe the advance north of the 38th parallel strikes me as inaccurate, to say the least. It initially appeared to me as though you were supporting Svenson1981's "you are some Korea invaders," insult. My subsequent litany was merely intended to demonstrate otherwise.

[n14e5o15]

Firstly, there is the distinction between North and South Korea. I am not making any issue whatsoever with the presence of US troops in the south. As regards the progression of the Korean war into North Korean territory, I think that it would be naïve to suppose, based on her actions elsewhere, that had the US succeeded in remaining in North Korea at the end of the Korean war the old regime would have remained in place.

[n14e5o15]

The other thing is that I'm not particularly interested in somehow proving that the US is always in the wrong in order that I feel better about my own country (the U.K.). The reason why I made the first comment was not to side with Svenson1981 for a spot of America bashing but firstly to object to your reference to fascism, which has nothing to do with disagreing with US foreign policy,

[1LTPETE]

Svenson1981's comment was neither intelligent nor articulate. He chose not to engage me in the sort of discussion we're currently having. I don't even think what he wrote qualifies as "disagreement" since he decided not to articulate his opinion further. I simply wrote him off and expended about as much energy in my reply as his initial comment. He, of course, can expound on his viewpoint at any time and I'd love to meet him on that field of discussion.

[n14e5o15]

and secondly to remark on the way in which you immediately brought up the rather tired pastime (which I hope civilisation will soon get over) of spending huge amounts of energy trying to reassure oneself that one's own country is better("your bruised European ego").

[1LTPETE]

Well, to the extent that I find myself personally, egotistically, connected to the prowess of my country, of course I prefer that we remain military unmatched with enormous political influence - does this not go without saying? I should hope, however, that simply because this is the case, you haven't concluded that I'm incapable of critique, be it of myself or my country. I don't believe this could be borne out of my position on the Korean War.

[n14e5o15]

It implies that your ego still depends partly on the military might and political influence of your country and the illogical belief that your own country must always in the end by right, which points to a grossly simplified blind patriotism rather than a genuine understanding and love of country.

[1LTPETE]

Regarding fascism, I hope thats an area of discussion no one will soon get over. My intent w/respect to the brownshirt reference was to point out the knee-jerk, fashionable "America bashing," if you will, of Svenson. I've heard it time and again without any articulation, just as he demonstrated - merely parroting some regimented diatribe that he heard from whatever authority. If they're his own thoughts, I think he's obliged to explain them. I don't take too kindly to hit-and-run ad hominem.

[n14e5o15]

Don't twist my words and don't set up a straw man arguement with the aid of foolish America bashers like Svenson.

[1LTPETE]

Comrade... okay... I don't see which of your words I've twisted. No straw men here, but sorry, I'm not letting Svenson, or anyone else like him, escape without a riposte from me.

[n14e5o15]

I suppose I was referring to the tendancy to see anything in terms of two (not more) opposing sides. Anyway, I think we've now reached the requisite number of Internet forum clichés (accusations of ad hominem and straw man arguement, use of sarcasm etc.) for the discussion to peter out inconclusively as it normally does.

[1LTPETE]

Secondly, I disagree with the paradigm you might be putting forth. I'm not so sure that I see things in such zero-sum terms, where the ascent of other international influences necessarily requires the descent of American influence or "dominance." I don't know what you mean by "get over," again, what are we getting over? Yes, I know what you said, but I suppose you're going to have to clarify your terms a little more.

[newsgary]

Bugle Call should be first then

the retreat

[Dutychief]

Good video.. Stay alert for America.

[wtanoto]

what is korean flag doing there?

[1LTPETE]

Its an Army post on Korean soil. Its customary to have the host nation flag flying beside our's.

[dp440]

Good video. Makes me miss getting out of the Army.

[chanbites]

Is that army or marines? By the way, I used to be stationed at USNFA Yokosuka, Japan and I took part in colors all the time, except without the cannon fire.

[1LTPETE]

Army.

[mikeydafreak]

YEP I WAS THERE, its not all 2ID, just mostly. I WAS IN HHSC-STB

[Youngkuk]

yes it is.

Camp Red Cloud 2nd I.D.

[Ballpenni]

Is this a military post in South Korea?