I really appreciate about the Thambrass. However, there is no improvement for poor people in the community. Now a days Muslims got 5% placement in all Govt. facility. Don't try to pin point his mistake. Get the percentage from the Govt for our community and give the reply to S.V Sekar for Halwa for Brahmins. This is the way our Tambrass has to do. I hope our Tambrass will achieve the things for our community. Jaihind.....
i donno wat's wrong wit all you ppl.the caste system came into existence due to one's profession not by birth as it later became....brahmins were regarded highly cause they were doing d holy job of preists standing next to Gods in temples.similarly, vaishyas were traders, kshtriyas were warriors, shudras were d cleaners. it all came from one's work.untouchability may have started cause shudras were d cleaning ppl and dey may hv dirt on them. so ppl might hv not touched them. not tat dey r low
Ha ha madhuyouid, manuscripts, history books are all another big HALWA, they were all altered and redesigned to favor you and put us down, no history book tells the truth, they are all full of lies, this is what your brains can think, always up to tricks, Remember this is not your forefathers land thats why you dont bury your dead in our land, instead cremate in the belief that the air will carry u out to where you belong, but you tell a different story, we have had enough of your halwa so STFU
@subashvt14 i said not to fight against cheap people who hating us. I not said anything about anyone other than bhramin. Someone says here that we are cunning caste, such people never know our dignity, i m very broadminded. I even care for poor dalits too. but why non brahmins cursing us we should not make them to do. pls raise heads to stop these antibrahmin propagandas
Shame on People, who criticize, Brahmin Community. Its so pity that Brahmins have been soft targets since the time of ages. Perhaps, people are greedy of the Scholarship & individual intelligence of Brahmins. Brahmins have always been Scholars from the ancient time, & you need to respect their intelligence. From Mathematician Aryabhatta to Scientist Sir C.V Raman, from the great writer(come science inventer) Sujata to Chess Mastero Viswanathan Aanand, many Brahmins have made our country proud.
Shame on People, who criticize, Brahmin Community. Its so pity that Brahmins have been soft targets since the time of ages. Perhaps, people are greedy of the Scholarship & individual intelligence of Brahmins. Brahmins have always been Scholars from the ancient time, & you need to respect their intelligence. From Mathematician Aryabhatta to Scientist Sir C.V Raman, from the great writer(come science inventer) Sujata to Chess Mastero Viswanathan Aanand, many Brahmins have made our country proud.
Caste? Who Created this bull shit!! Making one community higher and the other lower should be stopped, dono when these things will disappear. Only then our country will improve.
this video/audio sucks big time , can some one find the audio for the drama instead and post it ..i would be glad to hear the audio version of thedrama atleast .. ..
Well...the brahmins started to fight for their individual's whims....like any other political/communal parties in India. GO ahead...ruin urself. All THE best.
I WAS BORNE A BRAHMAN BY APTITUDE & ATTITUDE,BUT NOT BY BIRTH IN SOCALLED BRAHMAN FAMILY, AND MANY good BRAHMINS & ME RECIPROCALLY LIKE THE FRIENDSHIP. THE CIRCLE IS INCREASING. BRAHMINISM, IF PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD, IS GOOD FOR INDIA AND WORLD. IT MEANS A SMALL FRACTION OF PEOPLE SHOULD STUDY SPIRITUALITY AND SUPPORT IT. ALL PEOPLE RUNNING AFTER MONEY AND MAKING A VIRTUE OF THEIR CLEVERNESS &ONEUPMANSHIP CANNOT RESULT IN A PEACEFUL WORLD. BUDDHA HATED BRAHMINICAL RITUALS, WHICH ARE ALIVE AS EVER.
Usually even though Youtube carries many intellectually appealing videos, many of those who make comments on them are also porn viewers who obviously enjoy that kind of stuff most avidly. But in this particular video's case, I find the comments of a few (like Paul/ Embikay/ Paul) extraordinarily convincing. I shall also do more research on the points made, esp by lsjtifo (spiritulaizing or deifying the so called forces of nature).Vedas doubtless represent timeless and perhaps only true wisdom.
EMBIKAY, PUMPVELU DESERVES TO BE COMPLIMENTED FOR HIS/HER VIGOROUS COUNTER QUESTIONING. OUR RELIGION IS not THEISTIC OR ATHEISTIC, IT IS BOTH, SO THAT ATHEIST BECOMES A FRIEND WHO WILL NOT PERMIT THE THEIST HYPOCRITICALLY GETTING AWAY WITH HALF OR PRETENSIOUS KNOWLEDGE OF GOD. In Christianity or Islam, mere, glib superstition in 'God' without realizing Him, is enough to give u the title of Theist. In the Vedic religion, there are systems which are vehemently Atheistic, & numerous theistic sects.
B. It happened like this: I devoured many books both Hindu scholars and missionaries (like Sw.Vivekananda, Sivananda,etc.) and also books by Western authors giving Hindu scripture interpretations. THE MOST INFLUENTIAL BOOK IN MY RECONVERSION TO HINDUISM, WAS THE BOOK BY RICHARD THOMPSON, 'VEDIC COSMOGRAPHY AND ASTRONOMY' (an old copy of original priced Rs.195). I cannot even briefly summarise the great stuff of Thompson. If pumpvelu is a good seeker of truth, he shd. read and convince himself .
I am a keen viewer/reader of anything about Sekar whose dramas appeal to me so much.But here, in this video series, there is some critical material about him. By the way,I was borne Christian in a family converted during my parents' generation. However,since the converters have said that one's religion of birth can be given up,and he can change over to another (only Christianity!), I started reading about Vedas of Hinduism, the original religion of my parents, and got re-converted as Hindu. > B
II. pumpvelu, I have a friend called KozhayadiThadiyan who tells me, he read a tiny part of a book claiming to be a Veda translation, and felt turned away due to its 'utter nonsensical nature' . I told him , my dear idiot friend, in reading Vedas or about them, the reader must be an honest, thirsty seeker the teacher or even a book of commentary should be an authentic one. If these condns.are not me, result will be a horrible joke.This is what is happening with you, too, my dear pumpvelu!
I think the Dravidian parties (including both the ruling and opposition), will consider with due sympathy the very fair proposal that 7% quota for education be made for the Brahmin community. Mr Sekhar may have been motivated by a genuine desire to work to achieve this objective,since without a solid political contribution (thru assurance of the community's votes), such work could be futile.Any personal gains for him would be only incidental..BUT EXCLUDE CREAMY LAYER.
The speaker says many Brahmins are having to work in temples (and certain other jobs) as though such work is mean. The truth is the Brahmins must be especially happy to find a worthy job in a temple, befitting his knowledge of Vedas, Agamas, etc. All jobs not of a spiritual nature must be made available to all, depending on what they can do for society's interests through those jobs, and selection msut not be on basis of written exams.but inclination and ability.
I think we have a confusion on our priorities. Even assuming for the sake of argument, that the Brahmins are intellectually superior to the rest (of Hindus), intellect is not going to be of much value in unselfish and socially oriented work. Thus there, Brahmins or non Brahmins, there is ample scope for everyone to take a share of the cake limited only to his/ her needs. Our top priority must be to spread technical and humanities education, and select socially oriented people. No caste quotas.
I agree with the speech - Sve.Shekhar is very selfish but as long as Brhamins get benifited, we should stand behind them - reservation for Brahmins is a must - we should help Sve.Shekhar in this. Let disunity not do us in this hour.
Brahmins are the one who created the caste system and they enjoyed calling themselves the supreme. Now that the reservation is backfiring at them, they are crying foul. They are one of the caste crazy people in TN. Look at Balachandar, Crazy Mohan, Cho, S.V.Sekhar. Most of the actors in their drams would be brahmins.
leavemeallone..! You are DEFINITELY WRONG. To say Brahmins "created" castes is TOTAL FALSEHOOD, and it is perpetuated as truth by missionaries right from the days when the British came in guise of traders, >2 centuries ago. Castes, based on hereditary occupation, are prevalent in many countries, but the word 'caste' was coined/ used deliberately to divide Hindu society thru propaganda that casteism is an evil unique to Hinduism. >>2
Castes acc. to one school of Western thought itself, are of tribal origin, Australian, African, if not other. There are of course 4 Varnas as a system in Hinduism, which are not based on birth in a hereditary line, but on innermost preferences and aptitudes, according to which man chooses occupation as spiritual (Brahmin) or mercantile/managerial (Vaishya), military or police (Kshatriya) or manual work (sudra) demanding manual work including some push-button, computer command types of tasks.
BRAHMINS MUST LEARN SANSKRIT AND VEDAS, THAT IS ONE COMPULSORY NEED TO JUSTIFY ANYONE'S CLAIM TO BE BRAHMAN. While in India, I could just find a few among hundreds of nominal Brahmins whom I met with. I am convinced through my study, that only Vedic wisdom (its propaganda and practice based on true grasp of what it means) can save the world from impending destruction of itself.
VEDIC WISDOM ? i am unable to find any wisdom in rig veda which calls upon agni[fire] to come drink soma and get me the wealth of others or that sudra is from the foot and brahmin is from the mouth and no logic to the belief of offering costly and edible materials to the fire to pollute the world deprive the needy of the edible sacrifice to fire. IT HAS BEEN BRAHMINS WHO LEARNT THE VEDAS AND IN RETURN GAVE NOTHING IN TERMS OF INNOVATION OR DISCOVERY THEY STILL BELIEVE THE SUN&MOON AS PLANETS.
This is the kind of citing that people like you (you are what you speak!) indulge in, based merely on what fakes told you. Anyway, Agni, Vaayu, Varuna or other demigods symbolise the deivinity in fire, wind, water/rains, ...., not their look or form or stuff. What great harm has science and technology done today to mankind, indeed ecology (now they are going to bomb moon to find water in quantity, after discovering its molecules!!), by treating wind, fire, etc. as mere inanimate entities.
pumpvelu, You say: IT HAS BEEN BRAHMINS ....BELIEVE THE SUN&MOON AS PLANETS". Innovations and discoveries are 99% events of the last 2 centuries, and the pressure to make them arises from the exponential growth of populations, and total world population then was just about 20% of today's popln. Many of them are due to Japanese and Chinese, and even when basic discoveries are Western, Japanese turn them into technologies 95%.
THE japs with a tiny population can turn innovations to technologies is because they dont believe like the brahmins who still make us believe in by gone theories-paper was not innovated 200 yrs back --when a ARABIAN WARRIOR TAUGHT HIS PEOPLE TO RALLY AROUND AND CREATED A MIGHTY SECT OF BELIEVERS THE WORLD OVER WE HAD A SANKARACHARYA PROPAGATING VARNASHRAMA-WHEN THE INVADING AFGANS WERE SLAUGHTERING INDIANS WE HAD ANOTHER FUNNY ACHARYA CALLING SUDRAS ARE NITHYA NARAKIS- WERE THEY NOT HIS OWN
Twisted history.! Sankaracharya merely said that nature has its classification in many things: seven rainbow colours, for example. So too mankind can be BROADLY classified into those with inborn bent for spiritual, military, commercial or manual pursuits. This division is prevalent all over world, and it is not casteism, a word perpetrated by Christians due to their ignorance, or missionary zeal to convert India by creating divisive feelings and animosities among Indians.
I read bmkruppan reply to u, which is correct and brief. The Varana dharma is not based on hereditary birth, but when by chance you are spiritual in nature, u are benefitted when your father is also a Brahmin. But one born to a Brahmin can be a sudra by nature that is inborn qualities connected with DNA carryover. But guys like you seem to have some ulterior purpose in going on repeating what u say without taking even a half chance to understand the truth at least when others say.
6. Non-acceptance of it due to misunderstanding (that it is a conspiracy of hypocritical people to keep large section of humanity suppressed), implies the world will head to total annihilation due to ALL people consumed by consumerism, commercialism, sensory pleasures and all other manifestations of materialism, which, sadly, modern culture unfiromsly preaches for all misusing mass media.
6. ANDA-Brahmam and PINDA-brahmam,are,respectively the Spiritual universe, and the Material universe (cosmos and microcosmos of particle world, waves, energy forms,etc). A proper balancing spiritual and universal values (giving up neither) is what decides perfect Brahmanhood.The Chatur varna ("four colour/dye") concept of the Vedas, of Four Natural Divisions of Universe is Eternally and Universally valid.
5. Due to this bad example, all Hindus are nowaday more than willing to fall into the traps of Western culture, glibly forgetting that Vedic knowledge is the SUPERIOR wisdom for all mankind. One authentic, though still somewhat imperfect, description of a Brahman is, he spends his lifetime of simple livig and high thinking, to study of ANDA-Brahmam and PINDA-brahmam,
4. It is difficult to define Brahminhood, but much easier to elaborate who is NOT a Brahmin, that is what the Sage of Kanchi has said, who also rued so, so much how much the socalled Brahmins by their lack of character, have let down society/ mankind by letting it decay in rank materialism resulting in divorces, divided families, orphans, etc.
3. No one claiming to be a Brahmin is a genuine one, unless he is born with an unassailable and unswerving inclinationand commitment to spiritual life in which wants are minimal, and is concerned with the welfare of human society at large and ecology, all the time. That is what the Vedic discipline is about. Birth is not heredity, it has everything to do with the DNA, so much so that even in a socalled Dalit family, a Brahmin can be borne.
correct! a brahmin cannot be born into a family. agreed 100%.
so todays "brahmin" caste are NOT really brahmin. So I am not a brahmin because I am honestly not that saintly. fine agreed. with that train of thought though a "dalit" cannot be BORN into a family. And so regardless of which family he was born into or his name......it is he who decides which path he chooses. so then if a brahmin is not a brahmin and a dalit not a dalit what's the point of the quotas.
2.Thus whether it is Sekhar or TAMBRAAS, do not be misguided to think otherwise about definition of Brahmin. there is hardly any Brahmin today. No one is Brahmana or A-brahmana (non Brahmin) by birth, but by inborn qualities and inclinations. Hence one is merely a fake Brahmin if he thinks his birth has determined that fact, and on the other hand, goes on doing just what everybody does, never bothering to spend considerable time in acquiring and propagating spiritual knowledge.
Being abrahmin means, he/she is brahminical, that is particularly spiritual in outlook and commending spiritual values to others, and as such a brahmin is required, by definition, not to run after power, position and wealth, but concentrate on acquiring spiritual values (through Svaadhyaaya, or study of Vedas); and by demanding quotas and joining the others in exclusively materialistic pursuits, he ceases to be a Brahmin.
perfect !so now that that is straightened out. tell the damn gov. that a pandya who wants a seat in med school no longer wants to be considered a brahmin. or the joshi who applied for a gov job no longer wants to be brahmin. Oh and thanks in advance for all your help. really if you could do that much all "brahmins" would be greatful.
Only poor Brahmins require the quota because of their poverty. You have to see the Brahmins in other states also who are doing menial jobs .They are still standing in all the queues what you have told.
Why anyone should or should not do this or do that, depends on the choices one makes, and how one organizes one's affairs. it is a question of applying intelligence and diligence, which are matters within individual domain, not having anything to do with group dynamics. there are underprivileged people in every section of people, in every country. feeling angry or jealousy does not help, but self discipline and hard work can change anyone's course of life, not grumbling, fuming .., all the time.
This is spicy but foolish talk. This doesnt need to be answered, except by parrying it with: how many 'poor' people do not queue up for seeing worthless trash showing sex and violence, all over again in ever changing concoctions? How many 'poor' ppl do not neglect their own kids' future by derpiving them of room for study becz the paretnts become addicted to serials dished out on 'Idiot box'?.. I can go on piling such qns. Poverty cuts across all communities, and is due to wrong priorities..
Dear oh dear ,How many days these people are gonna discriminate caste and religion for politics. Those who work and have talent will succeed .Bhramins are one set of people who posses extreme mental ability since historic period. so thats why until our independence these disciplened ppl are kept in higher most post through out kings and british rules.
look at people who rule India today, are rowdys and gangsters .
The golden rule is that if you sack bhramins there will never be a sucess
if Brahmin's have mental ability please show one brahmin scientist who invented any use full invention. brahmin wears a thread to show off his superiority according to manu smriti. ARE BRAHMINS NOT ASHAMED OF THEIR ANCESTORS WHO LICKED THE BOOTS OF EVERY INVADING BRUTAL RULERS ONLY TO SERVE UNDER THEM FOR THEIR SURVIVAL AT THE COST OF THEIR OWN COUNTRY MEN .WAKE UP JANAKI IT IS BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORK NON BRAHMINS PUT YOU AND ME ARE FREE. ALL THE ACHARYAS HAVE ALWAYS UPHELD BRAHMIN RACISM.
If you dont know about C.V.Raman go and ask with your friends. Why Karunanidhi is keeping Gopal Iyer as his Personal Doctor tell him to choose from some other caste. Brahmin people never having hatred with any community. Periyar only begged before British Rulers when Nataji was fighting against British for getting Independence. In the name of caste your people are only killing the Poor dalits. Brahmins will never talk indecent words.
C.V Raman, Subramanyan Chandrasekhar- the only nobel winning indian physicist , Srinivasa Ramanujan whose mathematical work was beyoind his times. The world recognizes all of them.
only with the knowledge gained out of mellachas books-if they were to remain in JUMBO DWEEPA LIKE RAMA THEY WOULD BE STILL IN VANASHRAMA-IF AMONG THE VERY FEW BRAHMIN GREATS WE ALSO HAVE NON BRAHMIN EQUALS LIKE HARGOBIND KHURANNA-AMARTYA SEN ETC
Scientific research and technology devpt. based on it are pursuits for entire humanity. Though the huge inventions of gadgetry for communication, transport, and so on, has helped to cope with the problems of vastly increased populn. it is clear they have led to more problems than they solved. Family values and even life itself have become greatly devalued. .
WELL said science is for entire humanity and the scientist who gave it is a human - YOU CAN NEVER FIND ONE SINGLE VEDIC BRAHMIN WHO PURSUED SCIENCE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF HUMANS-AS HE WAS INHUMAN IN TREATING HIS OWN FELLOW COUNTRY MEN-HE COMPROMISED WITH THE INVADERS AND TURNED HIMSELF TO THEIR WAYS TO HIS SELFISH ENDS.YOU SHLD SEE THEIR INTERPRETATION -THEY REFER VIMANA OF RAMAYANA AND SAY IT IS THE PRESENT AIRCRAFT- WHEN THEY DO NOT HAVE A DESCRIPTION OF CYCLE LET ALONE A PLANE -CHANGE THEY CAN
I wrote so extensively on this video but u have apparently not bothered to study it with due care, as you are trying to hit me back with it. I said science and technology achievements are made by many countries not just Western. But science is only for creature comfort devices and is used more for evil than good, as Einstein regretted saying science is lame without spirituality in which Vedas are the superior treasurehouse..Reg. missionaries their work in Africa enslaved much ofAfrica to West.
2.Spiiituality as expounded in the Indian scriptures are found by most scholars and scientists to be a great source where science and family values converge. By the way, pumpevlu, you should get out of what seems to have been indoctrination by idle rabble rousers whose only motivation is to make money out of venomous propaganda among different communities of a society.
MARGE, IT is the same tone the brahmins have used of false indoctrination-venemous propoganda--etc-CAN U JUSTIFY CRORES WORTH OF EDIBLES AND MATERIALS BEING BURNT IN FIRE IN THE NAME OF YAGNA-IS IT SCIENTIFIC THAT SUDRA GIRL CHILDREN ARE OFFERED TO TEMPLES AS PROSTITUTES -WHICH GREAT FAMILY ORIENTED BRAHMIN GURU HAS CRIED TO PUT A STOP FOR IT- WHICH SCRIPTURE IN THE RELIGION OF BRAHMINS TEACHES FAMILY VALUES OF THE PRESENT DAY--IF NOT FOR THE DEDICATED MISSIONARIES SUDRAS WOULD BE DEVADASIS
Any man made 'systen' tends to get misused. And so was with the Devadasi system. And it was abolished. But there are many people of the old Devadasi system who became great world renowned Bharat Natyam dancers..Karunanidhi could have got genuine fame if he had Nagasvaram talents like his father, perhaps did not, so he became a CM, tho not of much use to public but to his own clan. Do yr.own research googling.
hello???? the damn katris were to defend us briliiant pumpvelu! why dont you go hound them for all the dumb things that happened over the centuries plus all the problems you face today plus the fact you lost your car keys and spilled water! damn what the hell! where was the damn rest of the country!
with centuries of Vedas or so called knowledge bearers the Brahmans were to rouse us all to rebel against merciless marauders from tiny far off places--they didn't do it but only rabble in the duty of katris WE DON'T NEED TO HOUND BYGONES FOR THE MISERY WE ARE INTO- WE NEED TO ANALYZE THE PATHETIC SITUATION WE ARE NOW TO SHAKE THE SHACKLES OF EXPLOITATION AND MOVE IN THE DIRECTION LIKE SAMATHUVAPURAMS Dr KARUNA IS LEADING US.THE BRAHMANS HAVE TO KNOW THEIR SCRIPTURES ARE NOTHING BUT BLABBER .
Samathuvam and Sagodarathuvam are fine ideals to work for, but difficult to define or achieve since men differ in aptitude. But the leaders, who praise Mahatma Gandhi, don't follow this tenet but merely preach.I often wonder why NONE of Dr.Karuna's ministers chose to live in a slum area of Chennai,but all huddle up together in a particular area of Chennai where electricity, water, and all other facilities will be provided 24 x 7 even if they are cut for others 75%? Samathuvam only for voters ?
'WE DON'T NEED TO HOUND BYGONES FOR THE MISERY WE ARE INTO- WE NEED TO ANALYZE THE PATHETIC SITUATION WE ARE NOW TO SHAKE THE SHACKLES OF EXPLOITATION AND MOVE IN THE DIRECTION'. Great thought, but without that KARUNA added. You can call yrself Brahman by getting spiritual, reading and expounding scripture or Bible/Veda/Koran /Avesta/ other , as long as you dont get fanatic and denigrate religions other than yours . The earth is too crowded and closely knit ,cant afford religious fanaticism.
Even though I am not an Indian, I do live in India for long spells regularly. This talk of Brahmins dominating non Brahmins needs to be totally revised by people like you. The talk was a deliberately mischievous invention by hidden missionaries who posed as traders when the British came to India. And many of the early European scholars never grew up to assess the true worth of India's contributions in various fields. Also, Brahmins are not a hereditary caste, as per original texts.
2. Licking the boots of anybody is not a prerogative or unique ability of a community. You better grow up and get rid of your bloody communal mentality, so that you dont waste an entire, precious, godgiven life in these mean ways.
Pumpvelu, u say: 'IT IS BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORK NON BRAHMINS PUT YOU AND ME ARE FREE. ALL THE ACHARYAS HAVE ALWAYS UPHELD BRAHMIN RACISM.' Are you saying Brahmins do not work hard? By hard work you mean manual work only? Of course everyone in this world has to do manual work at home, or under an employer, anywhere, if not for wages. Manual drudgery, mind you, is being rapidly replaced by automation/mechanisation and electronic gadgetry.
@pumpvelu hello boss three of indian scientist who got noble prize were bhramins. Last chief election commiserate is a bhramin. CEO of Emirates bank is bhramhin most of Top position are bhramins, Great Rajaji is a bhramin Tamil thatha UV Swaminatha Iyer is a brahmin. Whatever the non bhramhins get quota for everything we never need it because we are intelligent by birth, you cannot stop us we will rule the world and ruling now also.
Uh! People should respect every caste. Yet we Brahmins face reverse discrimination. People blame their life's failures on us, and all the incompetence of certain people are centered around the Brahmins. I feel so sad with a "higher" caste having to beg and plead because idiots need quotas and take up all the seats!
I understand the plight of brilliant students not getting their opportunity to study further.But did u really think centuries of oppression of the lower castes (though with respect, probably not done by you) is of no consquence?Maybe its not fair, but its simply the way things are.
Well I appreciate what you said. Thank you. True the oppression for centuries. But remember the original caste system was not intended to be based on birth right. Anyway, oppression has occurred in every segment of society. How can we look back centuries ago to give justice now. We are creating a new set of problems that people centuries later will use to justify their actions. Why can't we have all brilliant students without heed to caste or creed get equal opportunities.
Also isn't it ironic that the same injustice the oppressed class is fighting from has now been dealt to another caste? Where do you thing that will lead? Next the down trodden Brahmins if in power will instill quotas for themselves and forget about other castes.....as the other castes are doing now. Then again after years a role reversal will take place. See there is no harmony in this. The better route is to make people equal based on their talent intellect.
Honestly, I feel like helping only my people, Brahmins. Why not everyone? Well everyone has the support of the governement. If we are siblings and I get extra food from my parents, how would that make you feel? Now we both know. I think it's time we moved forward. If I get more food I would share or refuse the extra to maintain your pride. You see?
The solutions are so simple yet people instead of walking straight have tendencies.
If you dont know about C.V.Raman go and ask with your friends. Why Karunanidhi is keeping Gopal Iyer as his Personal Doctor tell him to choose from some other caste. Brahmin people never having hatred with any community. Periyar only begged before British Rulers when Nataji was fighting against British for getting Independence. In the name of caste your people are only killing the Poor dalits.
Ha ha jollyboy26, you dont know your own community well. Karunanidhi's biological father is a Brahmin who left him in a temple because he didnt want him, and another man of low caste adopted him, but Karuna is making ends meet by having Gopal iyer as his personal doctor, we dravidians are never racists like you people, dats why you are in this country and dominating us, in fact you are illegal immigrants who came into this country when there was no Roman Law or system of passport or visa
It shows your true Brahmin mentality. The reason why other castes have reservations is because your Brahmins and other other upper castes had a reservation of sorts for many millenia - namely, the caste system. You used this system to oppress and deny fundamental dignity and rights of the lower castes. Now, you complain about how "poor" you have become. Read any study on relative poverty amongst castes and Dalits will be the worst off and next OBCs. Stop your crocodile tears. Bitch!
wow name calling....really? you don't even know me. grief so now I'm a botch because I was born into a caste that you don't belong to? weird huh? so you faced hatred for centuries yet that's all you give. hatred! one would think that you would rise up and prove yourself a better human being than I. after all i'm the crocodile that ruined your life! i guess NOT!
No - I called you a bitch because you Brahmins will never give up your Brahmin Supremacist trash ( a.k.a Hinduism ) but have figured out a way to portray yourselves as victims. Brahmins were always privileged in Hindu society. They used this privilege to keep the other castes down. This is the plain fact no matter how much you scream or cry otherwise. Payback is a Bitch isn't it?
So you are not a Hindu then what the hell do YOU care about castes? What supremacy? I never said Brahmins were better than anyone! Damn girl what is wrong with you? Fool I was talking about caste QUOTAS! That people should get jobs and education based solely on talent. And monetary support for anyone who needs it. Idiot! I AM the one talking about equality! You just want a baby bottle your whole life. Ugh! Seriously what a loser!
Whatever caste you come from why the hell do you need quotas to get where you need? Just shows mediocrity! Ya know a good thing about muslims is at least they think taking hand outs = quotas is beneath them. And you (and I'm not judging your caste... only you) actually think being spoon feed to get ahead makes you deserving. Please whatever even if you become a doc....people will still say, " whatever anyone can take a title if it was handed out."
@balaasp whatever....do you realize you are creating hte same stereotypes you claim to be fighting against. SO all Brahmins are evil? And all Dalits are good? Please. If you really wanna erase casteism stop fueling it! Stop taking seats you didn't earn through talent but stole through your caste. If you're in fact beyond castes then prove it. Be fair. You can't can you? You are worse than any "evil" Brahmin was. You cry victim. Steal seats, then stereotype against others.
this is like age of empires..the monk coverts other..we convert the monks..
choo chaadd!!
throw ur vedas..start eat chicken..follow tamil agamas hatred is gone...
being veg was follwed to compete with buddhism n jainism..
MrBharath14 3 months ago
I really appreciate about the Thambrass. However, there is no improvement for poor people in the community. Now a days Muslims got 5% placement in all Govt. facility. Don't try to pin point his mistake. Get the percentage from the Govt for our community and give the reply to S.V Sekar for Halwa for Brahmins. This is the way our Tambrass has to do. I hope our Tambrass will achieve the things for our community. Jaihind.....
kmuganesh1 9 months ago
i donno wat's wrong wit all you ppl.the caste system came into existence due to one's profession not by birth as it later became....brahmins were regarded highly cause they were doing d holy job of preists standing next to Gods in temples.similarly, vaishyas were traders, kshtriyas were warriors, shudras were d cleaners. it all came from one's work.untouchability may have started cause shudras were d cleaning ppl and dey may hv dirt on them. so ppl might hv not touched them. not tat dey r low
scorpsocial 9 months ago
Ha ha madhuyouid, manuscripts, history books are all another big HALWA, they were all altered and redesigned to favor you and put us down, no history book tells the truth, they are all full of lies, this is what your brains can think, always up to tricks, Remember this is not your forefathers land thats why you dont bury your dead in our land, instead cremate in the belief that the air will carry u out to where you belong, but you tell a different story, we have had enough of your halwa so STFU
joyedwards100 9 months ago
@madhuyouid - Mate .. All are equal .. and all are next to god..i m a brahmin myself.. fyi.. have a broadmind please
subashvt14 1 year ago
@subashvt14 i said not to fight against cheap people who hating us. I not said anything about anyone other than bhramin. Someone says here that we are cunning caste, such people never know our dignity, i m very broadminded. I even care for poor dalits too. but why non brahmins cursing us we should not make them to do. pls raise heads to stop these antibrahmin propagandas
madhuyouid 1 year ago
To Hell with Caste System.. Wrold without religion i guess would be One step closer to heaven -
subashvt14 1 year ago
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Bhramins are next to god, pls we dont loose our dignity to fighting with cheap people who hates us//
god is next to pure mind peoples/poors , so brahmins far behind the those pure souls
please dont loose ur dignity by posting craps
rajathiraja19 1 year ago
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Shame on People, who criticize, Brahmin Community. Its so pity that Brahmins have been soft targets since the time of ages. Perhaps, people are greedy of the Scholarship & individual intelligence of Brahmins. Brahmins have always been Scholars from the ancient time, & you need to respect their intelligence. From Mathematician Aryabhatta to Scientist Sir C.V Raman, from the great writer(come science inventer) Sujata to Chess Mastero Viswanathan Aanand, many Brahmins have made our country proud.
shivaaakumar3 1 year ago
Shame on People, who criticize, Brahmin Community. Its so pity that Brahmins have been soft targets since the time of ages. Perhaps, people are greedy of the Scholarship & individual intelligence of Brahmins. Brahmins have always been Scholars from the ancient time, & you need to respect their intelligence. From Mathematician Aryabhatta to Scientist Sir C.V Raman, from the great writer(come science inventer) Sujata to Chess Mastero Viswanathan Aanand, many Brahmins have made our country proud.
shivaaakumar3 1 year ago
Caste? Who Created this bull shit!! Making one community higher and the other lower should be stopped, dono when these things will disappear. Only then our country will improve.
Thanikaonline 1 year ago
this video/audio sucks big time , can some one find the audio for the drama instead and post it ..i would be glad to hear the audio version of thedrama atleast .. ..
narendran03 1 year ago
Well...the brahmins started to fight for their individual's whims....like any other political/communal parties in India. GO ahead...ruin urself. All THE best.
cinebuf 2 years ago
I think I like BMKARUPPAN, but I cant understand what stand he takes on.
cinebuf 2 years ago
I WAS BORNE A BRAHMAN BY APTITUDE & ATTITUDE,BUT NOT BY BIRTH IN SOCALLED BRAHMAN FAMILY, AND MANY good BRAHMINS & ME RECIPROCALLY LIKE THE FRIENDSHIP. THE CIRCLE IS INCREASING. BRAHMINISM, IF PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD, IS GOOD FOR INDIA AND WORLD. IT MEANS A SMALL FRACTION OF PEOPLE SHOULD STUDY SPIRITUALITY AND SUPPORT IT. ALL PEOPLE RUNNING AFTER MONEY AND MAKING A VIRTUE OF THEIR CLEVERNESS &ONEUPMANSHIP CANNOT RESULT IN A PEACEFUL WORLD. BUDDHA HATED BRAHMINICAL RITUALS, WHICH ARE ALIVE AS EVER.
bmkaruppan 2 years ago
Usually even though Youtube carries many intellectually appealing videos, many of those who make comments on them are also porn viewers who obviously enjoy that kind of stuff most avidly. But in this particular video's case, I find the comments of a few (like Paul/ Embikay/ Paul) extraordinarily convincing. I shall also do more research on the points made, esp by lsjtifo (spiritulaizing or deifying the so called forces of nature).Vedas doubtless represent timeless and perhaps only true wisdom.
Embikay 2 years ago
EMBIKAY, PUMPVELU DESERVES TO BE COMPLIMENTED FOR HIS/HER VIGOROUS COUNTER QUESTIONING. OUR RELIGION IS not THEISTIC OR ATHEISTIC, IT IS BOTH, SO THAT ATHEIST BECOMES A FRIEND WHO WILL NOT PERMIT THE THEIST HYPOCRITICALLY GETTING AWAY WITH HALF OR PRETENSIOUS KNOWLEDGE OF GOD. In Christianity or Islam, mere, glib superstition in 'God' without realizing Him, is enough to give u the title of Theist. In the Vedic religion, there are systems which are vehemently Atheistic, & numerous theistic sects.
bmkaruppan 2 years ago
B. It happened like this: I devoured many books both Hindu scholars and missionaries (like Sw.Vivekananda, Sivananda,etc.) and also books by Western authors giving Hindu scripture interpretations. THE MOST INFLUENTIAL BOOK IN MY RECONVERSION TO HINDUISM, WAS THE BOOK BY RICHARD THOMPSON, 'VEDIC COSMOGRAPHY AND ASTRONOMY' (an old copy of original priced Rs.195). I cannot even briefly summarise the great stuff of Thompson. If pumpvelu is a good seeker of truth, he shd. read and convince himself .
paulkrist44 2 years ago
I am a keen viewer/reader of anything about Sekar whose dramas appeal to me so much.But here, in this video series, there is some critical material about him. By the way,I was borne Christian in a family converted during my parents' generation. However,since the converters have said that one's religion of birth can be given up,and he can change over to another (only Christianity!), I started reading about Vedas of Hinduism, the original religion of my parents, and got re-converted as Hindu. > B
paulkrist44 2 years ago
II. pumpvelu, I have a friend called KozhayadiThadiyan who tells me, he read a tiny part of a book claiming to be a Veda translation, and felt turned away due to its 'utter nonsensical nature' . I told him , my dear idiot friend, in reading Vedas or about them, the reader must be an honest, thirsty seeker the teacher or even a book of commentary should be an authentic one. If these condns.are not me, result will be a horrible joke.This is what is happening with you, too, my dear pumpvelu!
lsjtifo 2 years ago
I think the Dravidian parties (including both the ruling and opposition), will consider with due sympathy the very fair proposal that 7% quota for education be made for the Brahmin community. Mr Sekhar may have been motivated by a genuine desire to work to achieve this objective,since without a solid political contribution (thru assurance of the community's votes), such work could be futile.Any personal gains for him would be only incidental..BUT EXCLUDE CREAMY LAYER.
Embikay 2 years ago
The speaker says many Brahmins are having to work in temples (and certain other jobs) as though such work is mean. The truth is the Brahmins must be especially happy to find a worthy job in a temple, befitting his knowledge of Vedas, Agamas, etc. All jobs not of a spiritual nature must be made available to all, depending on what they can do for society's interests through those jobs, and selection msut not be on basis of written exams.but inclination and ability.
paulkrist44 2 years ago
I think we have a confusion on our priorities. Even assuming for the sake of argument, that the Brahmins are intellectually superior to the rest (of Hindus), intellect is not going to be of much value in unselfish and socially oriented work. Thus there, Brahmins or non Brahmins, there is ample scope for everyone to take a share of the cake limited only to his/ her needs. Our top priority must be to spread technical and humanities education, and select socially oriented people. No caste quotas.
bmkaruppan 2 years ago
I agree with the speech - Sve.Shekhar is very selfish but as long as Brhamins get benifited, we should stand behind them - reservation for Brahmins is a must - we should help Sve.Shekhar in this. Let disunity not do us in this hour.
rajkumarvpost 2 years ago
Brahmins are the one who created the caste system and they enjoyed calling themselves the supreme. Now that the reservation is backfiring at them, they are crying foul. They are one of the caste crazy people in TN. Look at Balachandar, Crazy Mohan, Cho, S.V.Sekhar. Most of the actors in their drams would be brahmins.
leavemealonetoUS 2 years ago
leavemeallone..! You are DEFINITELY WRONG. To say Brahmins "created" castes is TOTAL FALSEHOOD, and it is perpetuated as truth by missionaries right from the days when the British came in guise of traders, >2 centuries ago. Castes, based on hereditary occupation, are prevalent in many countries, but the word 'caste' was coined/ used deliberately to divide Hindu society thru propaganda that casteism is an evil unique to Hinduism. >>2
Embikay 2 years ago
Castes acc. to one school of Western thought itself, are of tribal origin, Australian, African, if not other. There are of course 4 Varnas as a system in Hinduism, which are not based on birth in a hereditary line, but on innermost preferences and aptitudes, according to which man chooses occupation as spiritual (Brahmin) or mercantile/managerial (Vaishya), military or police (Kshatriya) or manual work (sudra) demanding manual work including some push-button, computer command types of tasks.
Embikay 2 years ago
BRAHMINS MUST LEARN SANSKRIT AND VEDAS, THAT IS ONE COMPULSORY NEED TO JUSTIFY ANYONE'S CLAIM TO BE BRAHMAN. While in India, I could just find a few among hundreds of nominal Brahmins whom I met with. I am convinced through my study, that only Vedic wisdom (its propaganda and practice based on true grasp of what it means) can save the world from impending destruction of itself.
MarjorieBakre 2 years ago
True observation
Jitonet 2 years ago
VEDIC WISDOM ? i am unable to find any wisdom in rig veda which calls upon agni[fire] to come drink soma and get me the wealth of others or that sudra is from the foot and brahmin is from the mouth and no logic to the belief of offering costly and edible materials to the fire to pollute the world deprive the needy of the edible sacrifice to fire. IT HAS BEEN BRAHMINS WHO LEARNT THE VEDAS AND IN RETURN GAVE NOTHING IN TERMS OF INNOVATION OR DISCOVERY THEY STILL BELIEVE THE SUN&MOON AS PLANETS.
pumpvelu 2 years ago
This is the kind of citing that people like you (you are what you speak!) indulge in, based merely on what fakes told you. Anyway, Agni, Vaayu, Varuna or other demigods symbolise the deivinity in fire, wind, water/rains, ...., not their look or form or stuff. What great harm has science and technology done today to mankind, indeed ecology (now they are going to bomb moon to find water in quantity, after discovering its molecules!!), by treating wind, fire, etc. as mere inanimate entities.
lsjtifo 2 years ago
pumpvelu, You say: IT HAS BEEN BRAHMINS ....BELIEVE THE SUN&MOON AS PLANETS". Innovations and discoveries are 99% events of the last 2 centuries, and the pressure to make them arises from the exponential growth of populations, and total world population then was just about 20% of today's popln. Many of them are due to Japanese and Chinese, and even when basic discoveries are Western, Japanese turn them into technologies 95%.
balumuthu 2 years ago
THE japs with a tiny population can turn innovations to technologies is because they dont believe like the brahmins who still make us believe in by gone theories-paper was not innovated 200 yrs back --when a ARABIAN WARRIOR TAUGHT HIS PEOPLE TO RALLY AROUND AND CREATED A MIGHTY SECT OF BELIEVERS THE WORLD OVER WE HAD A SANKARACHARYA PROPAGATING VARNASHRAMA-WHEN THE INVADING AFGANS WERE SLAUGHTERING INDIANS WE HAD ANOTHER FUNNY ACHARYA CALLING SUDRAS ARE NITHYA NARAKIS- WERE THEY NOT HIS OWN
pumpvelu 2 years ago
Twisted history.! Sankaracharya merely said that nature has its classification in many things: seven rainbow colours, for example. So too mankind can be BROADLY classified into those with inborn bent for spiritual, military, commercial or manual pursuits. This division is prevalent all over world, and it is not casteism, a word perpetrated by Christians due to their ignorance, or missionary zeal to convert India by creating divisive feelings and animosities among Indians.
bmkaruppan 2 years ago
I read bmkruppan reply to u, which is correct and brief. The Varana dharma is not based on hereditary birth, but when by chance you are spiritual in nature, u are benefitted when your father is also a Brahmin. But one born to a Brahmin can be a sudra by nature that is inborn qualities connected with DNA carryover. But guys like you seem to have some ulterior purpose in going on repeating what u say without taking even a half chance to understand the truth at least when others say.
Embikay 2 years ago
6. Non-acceptance of it due to misunderstanding (that it is a conspiracy of hypocritical people to keep large section of humanity suppressed), implies the world will head to total annihilation due to ALL people consumed by consumerism, commercialism, sensory pleasures and all other manifestations of materialism, which, sadly, modern culture unfiromsly preaches for all misusing mass media.
lsjtifo 2 years ago
6. ANDA-Brahmam and PINDA-brahmam,are,respectively the Spiritual universe, and the Material universe (cosmos and microcosmos of particle world, waves, energy forms,etc). A proper balancing spiritual and universal values (giving up neither) is what decides perfect Brahmanhood.The Chatur varna ("four colour/dye") concept of the Vedas, of Four Natural Divisions of Universe is Eternally and Universally valid.
lsjtifo 2 years ago
5. Due to this bad example, all Hindus are nowaday more than willing to fall into the traps of Western culture, glibly forgetting that Vedic knowledge is the SUPERIOR wisdom for all mankind. One authentic, though still somewhat imperfect, description of a Brahman is, he spends his lifetime of simple livig and high thinking, to study of ANDA-Brahmam and PINDA-brahmam,
lsjtifo 2 years ago
4. It is difficult to define Brahminhood, but much easier to elaborate who is NOT a Brahmin, that is what the Sage of Kanchi has said, who also rued so, so much how much the socalled Brahmins by their lack of character, have let down society/ mankind by letting it decay in rank materialism resulting in divorces, divided families, orphans, etc.
lsjtifo 2 years ago
3. No one claiming to be a Brahmin is a genuine one, unless he is born with an unassailable and unswerving inclinationand commitment to spiritual life in which wants are minimal, and is concerned with the welfare of human society at large and ecology, all the time. That is what the Vedic discipline is about. Birth is not heredity, it has everything to do with the DNA, so much so that even in a socalled Dalit family, a Brahmin can be borne.
lsjtifo 2 years ago
correct! a brahmin cannot be born into a family. agreed 100%.
so todays "brahmin" caste are NOT really brahmin. So I am not a brahmin because I am honestly not that saintly. fine agreed. with that train of thought though a "dalit" cannot be BORN into a family. And so regardless of which family he was born into or his name......it is he who decides which path he chooses. so then if a brahmin is not a brahmin and a dalit not a dalit what's the point of the quotas.
goingplaces11 2 years ago
2.Thus whether it is Sekhar or TAMBRAAS, do not be misguided to think otherwise about definition of Brahmin. there is hardly any Brahmin today. No one is Brahmana or A-brahmana (non Brahmin) by birth, but by inborn qualities and inclinations. Hence one is merely a fake Brahmin if he thinks his birth has determined that fact, and on the other hand, goes on doing just what everybody does, never bothering to spend considerable time in acquiring and propagating spiritual knowledge.
lsjtifo 2 years ago
Being abrahmin means, he/she is brahminical, that is particularly spiritual in outlook and commending spiritual values to others, and as such a brahmin is required, by definition, not to run after power, position and wealth, but concentrate on acquiring spiritual values (through Svaadhyaaya, or study of Vedas); and by demanding quotas and joining the others in exclusively materialistic pursuits, he ceases to be a Brahmin.
lsjtifo 2 years ago
perfect !so now that that is straightened out. tell the damn gov. that a pandya who wants a seat in med school no longer wants to be considered a brahmin. or the joshi who applied for a gov job no longer wants to be brahmin. Oh and thanks in advance for all your help. really if you could do that much all "brahmins" would be greatful.
goingplaces11 2 years ago
Only poor Brahmins require the quota because of their poverty. You have to see the Brahmins in other states also who are doing menial jobs .They are still standing in all the queues what you have told.
jollyboy26 2 years ago
how many brahmins queue up in a ration shop?
how many brahmins queue up in a govt hospital?
how many brahmins live on 80rs per day?
how many brahmin kids attend corporatiion schools eating the mid day meal?
how many brahmins live and die in hutments?
people please wake up....
and also stop the well to do backward class ppl robbing off the benefits that shud goto the needy.
raagga22 2 years ago
Why anyone should or should not do this or do that, depends on the choices one makes, and how one organizes one's affairs. it is a question of applying intelligence and diligence, which are matters within individual domain, not having anything to do with group dynamics. there are underprivileged people in every section of people, in every country. feeling angry or jealousy does not help, but self discipline and hard work can change anyone's course of life, not grumbling, fuming .., all the time.
MarjorieBakre 2 years ago
This is spicy but foolish talk. This doesnt need to be answered, except by parrying it with: how many 'poor' people do not queue up for seeing worthless trash showing sex and violence, all over again in ever changing concoctions? How many 'poor' ppl do not neglect their own kids' future by derpiving them of room for study becz the paretnts become addicted to serials dished out on 'Idiot box'?.. I can go on piling such qns. Poverty cuts across all communities, and is due to wrong priorities..
lsjtifo 2 years ago
Dear oh dear ,How many days these people are gonna discriminate caste and religion for politics. Those who work and have talent will succeed .Bhramins are one set of people who posses extreme mental ability since historic period. so thats why until our independence these disciplened ppl are kept in higher most post through out kings and british rules.
look at people who rule India today, are rowdys and gangsters .
The golden rule is that if you sack bhramins there will never be a sucess
janakykarthick 2 years ago
if Brahmin's have mental ability please show one brahmin scientist who invented any use full invention. brahmin wears a thread to show off his superiority according to manu smriti. ARE BRAHMINS NOT ASHAMED OF THEIR ANCESTORS WHO LICKED THE BOOTS OF EVERY INVADING BRUTAL RULERS ONLY TO SERVE UNDER THEM FOR THEIR SURVIVAL AT THE COST OF THEIR OWN COUNTRY MEN .WAKE UP JANAKI IT IS BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORK NON BRAHMINS PUT YOU AND ME ARE FREE. ALL THE ACHARYAS HAVE ALWAYS UPHELD BRAHMIN RACISM.
pumpvelu 2 years ago
If you dont know about C.V.Raman go and ask with your friends. Why Karunanidhi is keeping Gopal Iyer as his Personal Doctor tell him to choose from some other caste. Brahmin people never having hatred with any community. Periyar only begged before British Rulers when Nataji was fighting against British for getting Independence. In the name of caste your people are only killing the Poor dalits. Brahmins will never talk indecent words.
jollyboy26 2 years ago 4
C.V Raman, Subramanyan Chandrasekhar- the only nobel winning indian physicist , Srinivasa Ramanujan whose mathematical work was beyoind his times. The world recognizes all of them.
ashwinen 2 years ago
only with the knowledge gained out of mellachas books-if they were to remain in JUMBO DWEEPA LIKE RAMA THEY WOULD BE STILL IN VANASHRAMA-IF AMONG THE VERY FEW BRAHMIN GREATS WE ALSO HAVE NON BRAHMIN EQUALS LIKE HARGOBIND KHURANNA-AMARTYA SEN ETC
pumpvelu 2 years ago
Scientific research and technology devpt. based on it are pursuits for entire humanity. Though the huge inventions of gadgetry for communication, transport, and so on, has helped to cope with the problems of vastly increased populn. it is clear they have led to more problems than they solved. Family values and even life itself have become greatly devalued. .
MarjorieBakre 2 years ago
WELL said science is for entire humanity and the scientist who gave it is a human - YOU CAN NEVER FIND ONE SINGLE VEDIC BRAHMIN WHO PURSUED SCIENCE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF HUMANS-AS HE WAS INHUMAN IN TREATING HIS OWN FELLOW COUNTRY MEN-HE COMPROMISED WITH THE INVADERS AND TURNED HIMSELF TO THEIR WAYS TO HIS SELFISH ENDS.YOU SHLD SEE THEIR INTERPRETATION -THEY REFER VIMANA OF RAMAYANA AND SAY IT IS THE PRESENT AIRCRAFT- WHEN THEY DO NOT HAVE A DESCRIPTION OF CYCLE LET ALONE A PLANE -CHANGE THEY CAN
pumpvelu 2 years ago
I wrote so extensively on this video but u have apparently not bothered to study it with due care, as you are trying to hit me back with it. I said science and technology achievements are made by many countries not just Western. But science is only for creature comfort devices and is used more for evil than good, as Einstein regretted saying science is lame without spirituality in which Vedas are the superior treasurehouse..Reg. missionaries their work in Africa enslaved much ofAfrica to West.
MarjorieBakre 2 years ago
2.Spiiituality as expounded in the Indian scriptures are found by most scholars and scientists to be a great source where science and family values converge. By the way, pumpevlu, you should get out of what seems to have been indoctrination by idle rabble rousers whose only motivation is to make money out of venomous propaganda among different communities of a society.
MarjorieBakre 2 years ago
MARGE, IT is the same tone the brahmins have used of false indoctrination-venemous propoganda--etc-CAN U JUSTIFY CRORES WORTH OF EDIBLES AND MATERIALS BEING BURNT IN FIRE IN THE NAME OF YAGNA-IS IT SCIENTIFIC THAT SUDRA GIRL CHILDREN ARE OFFERED TO TEMPLES AS PROSTITUTES -WHICH GREAT FAMILY ORIENTED BRAHMIN GURU HAS CRIED TO PUT A STOP FOR IT- WHICH SCRIPTURE IN THE RELIGION OF BRAHMINS TEACHES FAMILY VALUES OF THE PRESENT DAY--IF NOT FOR THE DEDICATED MISSIONARIES SUDRAS WOULD BE DEVADASIS
pumpvelu 2 years ago
Any man made 'systen' tends to get misused. And so was with the Devadasi system. And it was abolished. But there are many people of the old Devadasi system who became great world renowned Bharat Natyam dancers..Karunanidhi could have got genuine fame if he had Nagasvaram talents like his father, perhaps did not, so he became a CM, tho not of much use to public but to his own clan. Do yr.own research googling.
balumuthu 2 years ago
hello???? the damn katris were to defend us briliiant pumpvelu! why dont you go hound them for all the dumb things that happened over the centuries plus all the problems you face today plus the fact you lost your car keys and spilled water! damn what the hell! where was the damn rest of the country!
goingplaces11 2 years ago
with centuries of Vedas or so called knowledge bearers the Brahmans were to rouse us all to rebel against merciless marauders from tiny far off places--they didn't do it but only rabble in the duty of katris WE DON'T NEED TO HOUND BYGONES FOR THE MISERY WE ARE INTO- WE NEED TO ANALYZE THE PATHETIC SITUATION WE ARE NOW TO SHAKE THE SHACKLES OF EXPLOITATION AND MOVE IN THE DIRECTION LIKE SAMATHUVAPURAMS Dr KARUNA IS LEADING US.THE BRAHMANS HAVE TO KNOW THEIR SCRIPTURES ARE NOTHING BUT BLABBER .
pumpvelu 2 years ago
Samathuvam and Sagodarathuvam are fine ideals to work for, but difficult to define or achieve since men differ in aptitude. But the leaders, who praise Mahatma Gandhi, don't follow this tenet but merely preach.I often wonder why NONE of Dr.Karuna's ministers chose to live in a slum area of Chennai,but all huddle up together in a particular area of Chennai where electricity, water, and all other facilities will be provided 24 x 7 even if they are cut for others 75%? Samathuvam only for voters ?
paulkrist44 2 years ago
'WE DON'T NEED TO HOUND BYGONES FOR THE MISERY WE ARE INTO- WE NEED TO ANALYZE THE PATHETIC SITUATION WE ARE NOW TO SHAKE THE SHACKLES OF EXPLOITATION AND MOVE IN THE DIRECTION'. Great thought, but without that KARUNA added. You can call yrself Brahman by getting spiritual, reading and expounding scripture or Bible/Veda/Koran /Avesta/ other , as long as you dont get fanatic and denigrate religions other than yours . The earth is too crowded and closely knit ,cant afford religious fanaticism.
lsjtifo 2 years ago
Even though I am not an Indian, I do live in India for long spells regularly. This talk of Brahmins dominating non Brahmins needs to be totally revised by people like you. The talk was a deliberately mischievous invention by hidden missionaries who posed as traders when the British came to India. And many of the early European scholars never grew up to assess the true worth of India's contributions in various fields. Also, Brahmins are not a hereditary caste, as per original texts.
MarjorieBakre 2 years ago
2. Licking the boots of anybody is not a prerogative or unique ability of a community. You better grow up and get rid of your bloody communal mentality, so that you dont waste an entire, precious, godgiven life in these mean ways.
Embikay 2 years ago
Pumpvelu, u say: 'IT IS BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORK NON BRAHMINS PUT YOU AND ME ARE FREE. ALL THE ACHARYAS HAVE ALWAYS UPHELD BRAHMIN RACISM.' Are you saying Brahmins do not work hard? By hard work you mean manual work only? Of course everyone in this world has to do manual work at home, or under an employer, anywhere, if not for wages. Manual drudgery, mind you, is being rapidly replaced by automation/mechanisation and electronic gadgetry.
Embikay 2 years ago
@pumpvelu hello boss three of indian scientist who got noble prize were bhramins. Last chief election commiserate is a bhramin. CEO of Emirates bank is bhramhin most of Top position are bhramins, Great Rajaji is a bhramin Tamil thatha UV Swaminatha Iyer is a brahmin. Whatever the non bhramhins get quota for everything we never need it because we are intelligent by birth, you cannot stop us we will rule the world and ruling now also.
madhuyouid 1 year ago 2
This makes me so mad!
Uh! People should respect every caste. Yet we Brahmins face reverse discrimination. People blame their life's failures on us, and all the incompetence of certain people are centered around the Brahmins. I feel so sad with a "higher" caste having to beg and plead because idiots need quotas and take up all the seats!
goingplaces11 2 years ago 3
I understand the plight of brilliant students not getting their opportunity to study further.But did u really think centuries of oppression of the lower castes (though with respect, probably not done by you) is of no consquence?Maybe its not fair, but its simply the way things are.
roninjack5 2 years ago
Well I appreciate what you said. Thank you. True the oppression for centuries. But remember the original caste system was not intended to be based on birth right. Anyway, oppression has occurred in every segment of society. How can we look back centuries ago to give justice now. We are creating a new set of problems that people centuries later will use to justify their actions. Why can't we have all brilliant students without heed to caste or creed get equal opportunities.
goingplaces11 2 years ago 2
Also isn't it ironic that the same injustice the oppressed class is fighting from has now been dealt to another caste? Where do you thing that will lead? Next the down trodden Brahmins if in power will instill quotas for themselves and forget about other castes.....as the other castes are doing now. Then again after years a role reversal will take place. See there is no harmony in this. The better route is to make people equal based on their talent intellect.
goingplaces11 2 years ago 2
Honestly, I feel like helping only my people, Brahmins. Why not everyone? Well everyone has the support of the governement. If we are siblings and I get extra food from my parents, how would that make you feel? Now we both know. I think it's time we moved forward. If I get more food I would share or refuse the extra to maintain your pride. You see?
The solutions are so simple yet people instead of walking straight have tendencies.
goingplaces11 2 years ago
If you dont know about C.V.Raman go and ask with your friends. Why Karunanidhi is keeping Gopal Iyer as his Personal Doctor tell him to choose from some other caste. Brahmin people never having hatred with any community. Periyar only begged before British Rulers when Nataji was fighting against British for getting Independence. In the name of caste your people are only killing the Poor dalits.
jollyboy26 2 years ago 2
Read your Manu Smriti to find out if Brahmins don't hate other communities or not.
venchanter 2 years ago
periyar was a great leader..in dis period too periyar ideology only gives strenght to fight against cunning brahmins
balaasp 1 year ago
@jollyboy26 huh? are you for or against what I said?
goingplaces11 1 year ago
Ha ha jollyboy26, you dont know your own community well. Karunanidhi's biological father is a Brahmin who left him in a temple because he didnt want him, and another man of low caste adopted him, but Karuna is making ends meet by having Gopal iyer as his personal doctor, we dravidians are never racists like you people, dats why you are in this country and dominating us, in fact you are illegal immigrants who came into this country when there was no Roman Law or system of passport or visa
joyedwards100 9 months ago
It shows your true Brahmin mentality. The reason why other castes have reservations is because your Brahmins and other other upper castes had a reservation of sorts for many millenia - namely, the caste system. You used this system to oppress and deny fundamental dignity and rights of the lower castes. Now, you complain about how "poor" you have become. Read any study on relative poverty amongst castes and Dalits will be the worst off and next OBCs. Stop your crocodile tears. Bitch!
venchanter 2 years ago
wow name calling....really? you don't even know me. grief so now I'm a botch because I was born into a caste that you don't belong to? weird huh? so you faced hatred for centuries yet that's all you give. hatred! one would think that you would rise up and prove yourself a better human being than I. after all i'm the crocodile that ruined your life! i guess NOT!
goingplaces11 2 years ago
No - I called you a bitch because you Brahmins will never give up your Brahmin Supremacist trash ( a.k.a Hinduism ) but have figured out a way to portray yourselves as victims. Brahmins were always privileged in Hindu society. They used this privilege to keep the other castes down. This is the plain fact no matter how much you scream or cry otherwise. Payback is a Bitch isn't it?
venchanter 2 years ago
Ugh what pay pack? What the hell?!?
So you are not a Hindu then what the hell do YOU care about castes? What supremacy? I never said Brahmins were better than anyone! Damn girl what is wrong with you? Fool I was talking about caste QUOTAS! That people should get jobs and education based solely on talent. And monetary support for anyone who needs it. Idiot! I AM the one talking about equality! You just want a baby bottle your whole life. Ugh! Seriously what a loser!
goingplaces11 2 years ago
Whatever caste you come from why the hell do you need quotas to get where you need? Just shows mediocrity! Ya know a good thing about muslims is at least they think taking hand outs = quotas is beneath them. And you (and I'm not judging your caste... only you) actually think being spoon feed to get ahead makes you deserving. Please whatever even if you become a doc....people will still say, " whatever anyone can take a title if it was handed out."
goingplaces11 2 years ago
from the ancient times brahmins are the cunning caste exploiting all other peoples..
ambedkar and periyar are great leaders who exposed all their selfish activities cheating in the name of god..
brahmins deserve what they are now..
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balaasp 1 year ago
from the ancient times brahmins are the cunning caste exploiting all other peoples..
ambedkar and periyar are great leaders who exposed all their selfish activities cheating in the name of god..
brahmins deserve what they are now..
balaasp 1 year ago
@balaasp whatever....do you realize you are creating hte same stereotypes you claim to be fighting against. SO all Brahmins are evil? And all Dalits are good? Please. If you really wanna erase casteism stop fueling it! Stop taking seats you didn't earn through talent but stole through your caste. If you're in fact beyond castes then prove it. Be fair. You can't can you? You are worse than any "evil" Brahmin was. You cry victim. Steal seats, then stereotype against others.
goingplaces11 1 year ago
I think there is no point in dividing
indoba 2 years ago