There is no point in trying to tell ppl to buy a smaller bike when they are learning, If their mind is made up then let them buy the thou, When they crash and burn then they'll understand what everyone was telling them. Or they'll just end up being one of those heros who are amazingly fast in a straight line but then piss off everyone else who gets stuck behind them in corners becuase they have no clue how to hammer through a corner without kissing the back tire when it loops out on them.
sensible answer is start small and build up the cc as your confidence grows. I went staight on a k6 1000 after passing my test, i'm 35 though and to start with had a mature attitude and respected the bike. Get whatever you want but if you choose the thou then take it very slowly indeed and you'll be fine.....never get on a 1000 with a point to prove, you'll be toast within an hour;)
first of all it's not a hell already ... hell it's a Hayabusa ... but whatever it takes some time to lie from side to side and gearing and stoping it's just a adjustment ...
PsSs1t --- this bike is not for a beginner. A 600cc sportbike is not for a beginner, So definitely not the 1000cc super sport machine! Start with a 250
it's pretty easy, the key is patience and discipline. Once you are able to ride you have to stop yourself from thinking you are great at it. Baby steps.
maybe you should just borrow a smaller bike from you friend or rent one :) just to get into the whole shifting thingy after that you can buy a 600cc one. i started with a 50cc after 2 years i bought a suzuki gsxf 600 wich was very good and comfortable for learning and now i`m driving a suzuki gsxr 750
I'm a big Gixer 1000 fan and have the K4. But I do agree, the K8/ 9 pipes look naff, maybe thats why Suzuki UK were offering the Arrow System free here in the UK. They look smarter and sound sweet !!!!
As for the 600 comment I do agree to some degree with the statement too. I had a CBR600RR, and it was a really good track bike, faster through the corners but there's no way it could match the GSXR1000 overall. It doesn't have the torque or top end...
Look kids, theres the one guy who claims his 600 is faster than a 1000. LOL, he totaled his 1000 and bought a used 600 and still beats 1000's ur cool kid...
I agree with him actually and if your any good at wheelies you don't need 1000's. Remember the 250 are only a couple of seconds slower than the gp's and same with super sport to super bikes. I have seen this by friends who are better riders than me and it's awsome to see and made me realize how good they are and how toolish 1000's are. also still massive balanced wheel stands. maybe just to similar to say better with out a timer
I think that the liter bikes are too much for any average rider I swaped from 1000's to 600's because i can pretty much beat liter bikes in corners. I am way faster on a 600 than a 1000 besides cheper for insurance.
Interestingly the lap record for bikes at the Nurburgring is held by a GSX-R 600 (tuned by P3). The record is 7:17 and beat the previous record of 7:21, which was set by an MV Agusta 1078RR. The YZF R1 runs mid 7:20's.
The MV agusta and R1 were bone stock motorcycles. That gsxr you speak of was 50,000$US+ highly tuned, carbon fiber, non-streetable time bomb. Congratulations, you've just made an ass of yourself.
The P3 Super Light GSXR had MINOR engine tuning, with no increase in redline. The cost to buy one is US$26,700 including a whole day at the track for set-up. The price is similar to a 1078 RR. So wtf is your point? The 600cc bike DESTROYED the second fastest bike, which happened to have 1078cc and costs just as much. You only need an excuse if you lose. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. You should get away from the keyboard and start riding to gain real world experience.
Never saw a US price listed for the bike and was using conversion rates to judge price. Maybe it really is much cheaper than I initially expected. But lets see the R1 go out there with the same mods. It should cost about the same but will have far more power and weight 20 pounds more at most. The carbon fiber mods stripped 45kg from the gsxr600. Just imagine a modern liter bike with that much weight stripped. And the hell with the MV Agusta.... outdated, underdeveloped barge that it is now.
The problem with the litre bikes is that they have too much power and they are very easy to highside. It is ok on the street, but once you are leaned over you have to be extremely carefull. My GSX-R 1000 put 182 hp to the wheel. It can spin the tire in second over 7000rpm. Great fun in a straight line but not so much when you are leaned right over. That is why even extremely skilled riders like Rossi use traction control on high power bikes. Even then they sometimes high-side.
...there is a good article out there on WSB that deals with very high hp bikes. In a nutshell the feeling is that without very sophisticated and expensive traction control, even 200hp is too much. IIRC at Brands Hatch the BSB GSX-R 1000 is only at full throttle 17% of the lap. The rest is all part throttle. That bike puts ~190hp to the wheel. True the 600's can't touch 1000's in sheer acceleration, but there is more to consider on a race track. Go to a track day w/ your bike to see what I mean.
Funny thing was that Rossi was more successful without the traction control. And I know full the power a big inline 4 can put down having owned a ZX-14 for the street and ridden a friends 2008 cbr1000rr on a track in the recent past. There is a simple solution to not scaring the hell out of yourself on these bikes in the turn... less RPMs and less throttle. In most situations there is absolutely no reason to use all of a liter bikes power in a turn so why do so many people insist on it?
you guys are fighting different opinions, if ur an amateur, 600 is better, youll learn quicker how to ride properly, look like a better rider on the track cause itll look the bikes being written if your really good then thne 1000 is better, but u can always tell whose the wannabe cause they usually have the 1000 and cant ride worth shit
suzuki will always be my team , but i cant stand the two exhausts coming out the sides, it looks disgusting but otherwise the rest of the bike is pimp
what mean K9 ? it's the year????
frobixxx 1 year ago
title of song: the prodigy- voodoo people
mehrlich89 2 years ago
@mehrlich89 I was about to ask the songS name until I saw your post :D ThankS!
northstar100 1 year ago
There is no point in trying to tell ppl to buy a smaller bike when they are learning, If their mind is made up then let them buy the thou, When they crash and burn then they'll understand what everyone was telling them. Or they'll just end up being one of those heros who are amazingly fast in a straight line but then piss off everyone else who gets stuck behind them in corners becuase they have no clue how to hammer through a corner without kissing the back tire when it loops out on them.
bfulop 2 years ago
title of the song?
TheFracesco93 2 years ago
start from a small bike dont add SHIT to you man... its the same from chance of a 600 to a 1000 u need to re-learn anytng u know.
skullsaint 2 years ago
sensible answer is start small and build up the cc as your confidence grows. I went staight on a k6 1000 after passing my test, i'm 35 though and to start with had a mature attitude and respected the bike. Get whatever you want but if you choose the thou then take it very slowly indeed and you'll be fine.....never get on a 1000 with a point to prove, you'll be toast within an hour;)
turtleboy1974 2 years ago 6
can i ask something?...well im not experienced at big bikes...but i would like to have one as hell....is it easy to learn to ride this bike?
PsSs1t 2 years ago
first of all it's not a hell already ... hell it's a Hayabusa ... but whatever it takes some time to lie from side to side and gearing and stoping it's just a adjustment ...
Aresomania 2 years ago
PsSs1t --- this bike is not for a beginner. A 600cc sportbike is not for a beginner, So definitely not the 1000cc super sport machine! Start with a 250
marknowhereman 2 years ago 2
it's pretty easy, the key is patience and discipline. Once you are able to ride you have to stop yourself from thinking you are great at it. Baby steps.
viasevenvai 2 years ago
it`s not that hard , you just need to get used to the bike and start slowly
3dmagix 2 years ago
some guys told me that i have to buy a 250 cc bike first...but its not possible to buy a 250 cc bike only for practise and then the big one
PsSs1t 2 years ago
maybe you should just borrow a smaller bike from you friend or rent one :) just to get into the whole shifting thingy after that you can buy a 600cc one. i started with a 50cc after 2 years i bought a suzuki gsxf 600 wich was very good and comfortable for learning and now i`m driving a suzuki gsxr 750
3dmagix 2 years ago
Yeah not hard at all, just be careful with the throttle.
niuck 2 years ago
Are you a trackday rider? If not, don't buy this bike, it's totally useless for the road no purpose, it's a pure trackbike.
vithaj92 2 years ago
u would kill urself ;)
19KamiKaze42 2 years ago 2
forget it - get something more tame. Aim for a 500-750cc bike. Kawa er6f / er6n, kawa z750, honda hornet, suzuki gladius or sv650 etc.
Not a good idea to learn on a bike that'll do 178 mph and 0-60 in about 2.9 seconds. Also, insurance will kill ya, if you can get it.
lgarvey 2 years ago 2
it makes honey out of it exhaust pipe...
sleeplessintokyo 2 years ago
what name music plase????????
petrhusekujezd 2 years ago
The Prodigy - Voodoo People
retepppeter 2 years ago 2
PIĘKNY ^^^^
5***** :)))
RabelSupraMkIV 3 years ago
I'm a big Gixer 1000 fan and have the K4. But I do agree, the K8/ 9 pipes look naff, maybe thats why Suzuki UK were offering the Arrow System free here in the UK. They look smarter and sound sweet !!!!
As for the 600 comment I do agree to some degree with the statement too. I had a CBR600RR, and it was a really good track bike, faster through the corners but there's no way it could match the GSXR1000 overall. It doesn't have the torque or top end...
NokYeHa 3 years ago
dont like the pipes my mate fitted full arrow system to his k8 and it looks and sounds the b****cks
gsxr1000zk4 3 years ago
how much do 1 of these go for?
izanagi9 3 years ago
Look kids, theres the one guy who claims his 600 is faster than a 1000. LOL, he totaled his 1000 and bought a used 600 and still beats 1000's ur cool kid...
grato86 3 years ago
I agree with him actually and if your any good at wheelies you don't need 1000's. Remember the 250 are only a couple of seconds slower than the gp's and same with super sport to super bikes. I have seen this by friends who are better riders than me and it's awsome to see and made me realize how good they are and how toolish 1000's are. also still massive balanced wheel stands. maybe just to similar to say better with out a timer
wallnuts11 3 years ago
I think that the liter bikes are too much for any average rider I swaped from 1000's to 600's because i can pretty much beat liter bikes in corners. I am way faster on a 600 than a 1000 besides cheper for insurance.
ilikesuzuki 3 years ago
You best be trolling, fool. Otherwise you're looking pretty insecure and silly right now.
rhand18 3 years ago 2
Interestingly the lap record for bikes at the Nurburgring is held by a GSX-R 600 (tuned by P3). The record is 7:17 and beat the previous record of 7:21, which was set by an MV Agusta 1078RR. The YZF R1 runs mid 7:20's.
almasi72 3 years ago
The MV agusta and R1 were bone stock motorcycles. That gsxr you speak of was 50,000$US+ highly tuned, carbon fiber, non-streetable time bomb. Congratulations, you've just made an ass of yourself.
rhand18 3 years ago
The P3 Super Light GSXR had MINOR engine tuning, with no increase in redline. The cost to buy one is US$26,700 including a whole day at the track for set-up. The price is similar to a 1078 RR. So wtf is your point? The 600cc bike DESTROYED the second fastest bike, which happened to have 1078cc and costs just as much. You only need an excuse if you lose. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. You should get away from the keyboard and start riding to gain real world experience.
almasi72 3 years ago
Never saw a US price listed for the bike and was using conversion rates to judge price. Maybe it really is much cheaper than I initially expected. But lets see the R1 go out there with the same mods. It should cost about the same but will have far more power and weight 20 pounds more at most. The carbon fiber mods stripped 45kg from the gsxr600. Just imagine a modern liter bike with that much weight stripped. And the hell with the MV Agusta.... outdated, underdeveloped barge that it is now.
rhand18 3 years ago
The problem with the litre bikes is that they have too much power and they are very easy to highside. It is ok on the street, but once you are leaned over you have to be extremely carefull. My GSX-R 1000 put 182 hp to the wheel. It can spin the tire in second over 7000rpm. Great fun in a straight line but not so much when you are leaned right over. That is why even extremely skilled riders like Rossi use traction control on high power bikes. Even then they sometimes high-side.
almasi72 3 years ago 2
...there is a good article out there on WSB that deals with very high hp bikes. In a nutshell the feeling is that without very sophisticated and expensive traction control, even 200hp is too much. IIRC at Brands Hatch the BSB GSX-R 1000 is only at full throttle 17% of the lap. The rest is all part throttle. That bike puts ~190hp to the wheel. True the 600's can't touch 1000's in sheer acceleration, but there is more to consider on a race track. Go to a track day w/ your bike to see what I mean.
almasi72 3 years ago 4
Funny thing was that Rossi was more successful without the traction control. And I know full the power a big inline 4 can put down having owned a ZX-14 for the street and ridden a friends 2008 cbr1000rr on a track in the recent past. There is a simple solution to not scaring the hell out of yourself on these bikes in the turn... less RPMs and less throttle. In most situations there is absolutely no reason to use all of a liter bikes power in a turn so why do so many people insist on it?
rhand18 3 years ago
you guys are fighting different opinions, if ur an amateur, 600 is better, youll learn quicker how to ride properly, look like a better rider on the track cause itll look the bikes being written if your really good then thne 1000 is better, but u can always tell whose the wannabe cause they usually have the 1000 and cant ride worth shit
kawasakirules155 2 years ago
who sells this P3 Super Light GSXR?
adrianrubi 2 years ago
suzuki will always be my team , but i cant stand the two exhausts coming out the sides, it looks disgusting but otherwise the rest of the bike is pimp
dgsxr07 3 years ago
sweet baby
pinwbafous 3 years ago
I'm gonna have this baby on January to February.Btw the track must be from Pendulum
plasdex82 3 years ago
ride with suzuki bikes 4 life ! is perfect k9 :D !
sonnygsxr750 3 years ago
what song is this?
mgrewal52 3 years ago
The Prodigy - Voodoo People (Remix)
fforziney01 3 years ago