Honestly, I started out with the wasp (first heli). I had zero prior experience. For the price, you get everything from knurled hex screwdrivers to the 2.4 Ghz TX. But the quality seems substandard. My bird crashed in two consecutive flights due to the RX brownout. Probably a failing lipo pack.. Nonetheless, the TX has also failed- the rudder channel no longer works. I've moved on though :) It may seem cheap now, but it gets expensive down the road!
I don't recommend the RTF package because the servos, gyro and esc have short life spans. Getting the kit is pretty ok though. It is a tough heli after you get rid of the one-way-bearing. One after another, the one-way bearing keeps failing. After the 3rd replacement, I put a screw through the belt pulley, with the nut sitting in between 2 spokes of the main gear. This disables the one-way for good and i don't have to worry about a slipping 1-way and the heli falling from the sky suddenly.
Great video - I've just purchased one of these in 6CH flavour only to be sent the 4! Not ideal, discussing with the seller how we can resolve it. I've heard you can convert the 4CH to 6CH by swapping out the necessary parts? Am i correct in this assumption? Please say it's so ;) looks like I just need an extra servo, linkage, and head assembly.
yes, you link an extra servo, a couple of linkages and a pair of symetric-airfoil blades (the fixed pitch blades are semi-symetric) You also need a 6CH radio and receiver. A CP heli needs at least 5CH because of the additional servo. The last CH can be used to toggle the skyartec gyro between headlock and rate modes and to remote-control the gain.
im beginer and you think its better for me to get the 4 channel or 6 channel >>> nto thingking about all the 3d aerobatics just forward flight and hovering you think 6 channel will be just as easy as 4? with idle up off ofcourse :}
If you are looking at upright flying, trying to master all orientations, the 4 channel is easier. With idle-up, the throttle travel is split into half - top half upright flying & bottom half for inverted. With half the travel, altitude control is hyper-sensitive for beginner. The high headspeed also make the cyclics too touchy for learning.
Even in normal mode, it is harder because it is more reactive. This is because the 4 channel uses an increase in headspeed for altitude control (very manageable for beginners) but the 6 channel uses an increase in the blades' pitch and headspeed together. It is sensitive and landing is difficult. If you have an expensive transmitter, you can 'convert' the 6 channel to a fixed pitch by programming the normal pitch curve to a straight line and the throttle curve to a linear slope.
cool i not gona be able to buy my 3d heli now cause of money problem :{ when ill grow up ill probably be colecting as much rc heli as i can .... because i didn't have it in my child hood :{
The tail on mine is really stable, and it only has an IMax Headlock Gyro costing £20 in UK, but I did have to go through the tail drive and servo joints to minimise slop - excellent now and a very good cheap little Heli with more outdoor wind performance than you'd expect!
Wood is lighter and offers more lift. ABS is hardy though. I prefer the woodies since parts will be flying all directions in a crash with that high head-speed, the indestructible ABS blades will only transfer more damage to the head parts.
I'm thinking of getting one as the price at hobbycity is very attractive. i have a blade cx2 and have done quite a number of flights and thinking of getting this. I dont have experience in CP heli. Do you think its a good choice after coaxial heli? Thanks and keep the video coming!
Hey mate, going fr coaxial to a CP is a major jump. I'm not saying that it's impossible but don't be surprised to find that you can't hover the CP like ur cx2. Conventional heli does not float in 1 place like a coaxial because of its tail rotor's thrust & it requires constant inputs. Since you r likely to crash ur 1st conventional heli, you should consider a FP heli. FP heli parts are more affordable. It is also easier to fix, this means u can get it back in the air faster. Try honeybee fp2 :)
Thanks for watching. I thought it would be twitchy for its small size but no, it's pretty easy to fly. In fact, it is too docile. I have to add -25 expo on my dx7 to make the cyclics more aggressive.
The gyro and brushless motor are alright. But the ESC had burnt out and the 4 servos started to jitter badly after 8 weeks. I had since installed a phoenix ESC, 3 Towerpro-inequivalent 9g servos and a HD-2216MG 16g rudder servo. It's a pleasure to fly this heli when all the bugs are fixed.
Would you reccomend this heli?
staggy916 2 years ago
Honestly, I started out with the wasp (first heli). I had zero prior experience. For the price, you get everything from knurled hex screwdrivers to the 2.4 Ghz TX. But the quality seems substandard. My bird crashed in two consecutive flights due to the RX brownout. Probably a failing lipo pack.. Nonetheless, the TX has also failed- the rudder channel no longer works. I've moved on though :) It may seem cheap now, but it gets expensive down the road!
kevinmwolf288 2 years ago
I don't recommend the RTF package because the servos, gyro and esc have short life spans. Getting the kit is pretty ok though. It is a tough heli after you get rid of the one-way-bearing. One after another, the one-way bearing keeps failing. After the 3rd replacement, I put a screw through the belt pulley, with the nut sitting in between 2 spokes of the main gear. This disables the one-way for good and i don't have to worry about a slipping 1-way and the heli falling from the sky suddenly.
terence79chan 2 years ago
Great video - I've just purchased one of these in 6CH flavour only to be sent the 4! Not ideal, discussing with the seller how we can resolve it. I've heard you can convert the 4CH to 6CH by swapping out the necessary parts? Am i correct in this assumption? Please say it's so ;) looks like I just need an extra servo, linkage, and head assembly.
CrArC 2 years ago
yes, you link an extra servo, a couple of linkages and a pair of symetric-airfoil blades (the fixed pitch blades are semi-symetric) You also need a 6CH radio and receiver. A CP heli needs at least 5CH because of the additional servo. The last CH can be used to toggle the skyartec gyro between headlock and rate modes and to remote-control the gain.
terence79chan 2 years ago
im beginer and you think its better for me to get the 4 channel or 6 channel >>> nto thingking about all the 3d aerobatics just forward flight and hovering you think 6 channel will be just as easy as 4? with idle up off ofcourse :}
keith18ad 2 years ago
If you are looking at upright flying, trying to master all orientations, the 4 channel is easier. With idle-up, the throttle travel is split into half - top half upright flying & bottom half for inverted. With half the travel, altitude control is hyper-sensitive for beginner. The high headspeed also make the cyclics too touchy for learning.
terence79chan 2 years ago
i mean even the normal mode in 6 channel is harder than the normal 4 channel or its more reactive?
keith18ad 2 years ago
Even in normal mode, it is harder because it is more reactive. This is because the 4 channel uses an increase in headspeed for altitude control (very manageable for beginners) but the 6 channel uses an increase in the blades' pitch and headspeed together. It is sensitive and landing is difficult. If you have an expensive transmitter, you can 'convert' the 6 channel to a fixed pitch by programming the normal pitch curve to a straight line and the throttle curve to a linear slope.
terence79chan 2 years ago
cool i not gona be able to buy my 3d heli now cause of money problem :{ when ill grow up ill probably be colecting as much rc heli as i can .... because i didn't have it in my child hood :{
keith18ad 2 years ago
Great song - who sings it?
givner1234 2 years ago
Song title is "Nervous Cranberries Remix". You can find it under the legal list of songs for usage when you click on "Audio Swap" in YouTube.
terence79chan 2 years ago
The tail on mine is really stable, and it only has an IMax Headlock Gyro costing £20 in UK, but I did have to go through the tail drive and servo joints to minimise slop - excellent now and a very good cheap little Heli with more outdoor wind performance than you'd expect!
bravedan 2 years ago
look like singapore,,
andrewmsj 3 years ago
509 Wellington Circle : )
terence79chan 3 years ago
was there once for FF with daddyhobby. flew my estarter. very fun. but sadly i was the only guy flying plane. why there only ppl fly heli!!
andrewmsj 3 years ago
Do you use the original transmitter?
liebemein 3 years ago
Nope, I'm using a Spektrum DX7 transmitter.
terence79chan 3 years ago
What do you prefer? ABS or Wood Blade?
liebemein 3 years ago
Wood is lighter and offers more lift. ABS is hardy though. I prefer the woodies since parts will be flying all directions in a crash with that high head-speed, the indestructible ABS blades will only transfer more damage to the head parts.
terence79chan 3 years ago
Ok.
Thank you by the answer.
I agree: The first head-part broken in my V3 was the "Awag Arm". Very fragile.
I changed this piece for aluminium.
liebemein 3 years ago
Hi bro. nice video!. are u from daddyhobby?
I'm thinking of getting one as the price at hobbycity is very attractive. i have a blade cx2 and have done quite a number of flights and thinking of getting this. I dont have experience in CP heli. Do you think its a good choice after coaxial heli? Thanks and keep the video coming!
xiaotou85 3 years ago
Hey mate, going fr coaxial to a CP is a major jump. I'm not saying that it's impossible but don't be surprised to find that you can't hover the CP like ur cx2. Conventional heli does not float in 1 place like a coaxial because of its tail rotor's thrust & it requires constant inputs. Since you r likely to crash ur 1st conventional heli, you should consider a FP heli. FP heli parts are more affordable. It is also easier to fix, this means u can get it back in the air faster. Try honeybee fp2 :)
terence79chan 3 years ago
Hallo fellow,
Which max flight time?
liebemein 3 years ago
5min 30sec with a 1000mah pack
terence79chan 3 years ago
Thanks for watching. I thought it would be twitchy for its small size but no, it's pretty easy to fly. In fact, it is too docile. I have to add -25 expo on my dx7 to make the cyclics more aggressive.
The gyro and brushless motor are alright. But the ESC had burnt out and the 4 servos started to jitter badly after 8 weeks. I had since installed a phoenix ESC, 3 Towerpro-inequivalent 9g servos and a HD-2216MG 16g rudder servo. It's a pleasure to fly this heli when all the bugs are fixed.
terence79chan 3 years ago
IS it hard to fly this ? And how reliable are they
sonicd0012 3 years ago