megatrainspotter, get of your arse and go self employed and maybe you will get a tosser working for you. Real change is coming. Employment law is out of control thanks to new Labour.
I'm shame to be British to much power to unions, had strikes at Post Office then BA and now British Rail thinking of strikes what next !, there are no British company left anymore Roll Royce sold to Germany, Rover sold to China, British banks i.e. Bradford and Bingley, Abbey National etc...sold to Spain what next !!! Gordan Brown sold the gold bullion, amde loads of promise and then goes back on them, never can trust any politician, greedy and selfish !!!!
This is all about unions flexing its muscles and has nothing to do with pay or conditions at BA, If BA goes bankrupt then all of these cabin crew will be lining up at the dole office while all of these union bosses will still be in there £60,000 a year jobs and it will not affect them at all.
The Government should be mediating in this dispute but are too scared of losing millions in funding from their union paymasters so the labour party cowers in their offices and the union barons run riot.
if they decide to strike in the next ballot then their respective planes will be downed. give them free air tickets then when all crew are in their seats & the plane is full take off & let off a 1000lb bomb. i'd watch that video all day. metal & bodies everywhere. ha ha
@smudgerbuster The unions rule with fear and intimidation? I think not! and I wish!! Our union has disintigrated now and I see people being treated like shit every day. I spend my working life wanting to smack a few people in the mouth. For Gods sake lets start standing up to these people. How will they operate without their workers? They should learn respect.
Sadly, the govt has run out of money and won't be able to save this dying company. You either adopt a collective interest to succeed or get taken over by another carrier. the choice is yours.
I hope these ungrateful jerks force the company into bankruptcy and lose their pensions. NO BAILOUT!!!!! No government lifelines. No nationalization of pensions. Let them lie in the bed they make.
this seems to be how broken britain now works.the management of these companys run them into the ground and get rewarded for it while the workers get shafted.
cabin crew are now saying we didn't know it was 12 days...well maybe you should question what you are actually putting your name to.......... ONE MILLION passengers punished for what........i am flying over xmas and even though i am relieved the flights are going ahead i am not looking forward to being in such close contact with the cabin crew! !!
I detect some scurrilous posts, bassaunionrep-? i'm not so sure. BioProject, you reveal a staggering lack of understanding of how business's work and what is there purpose. The company is owned by the shareholders and exists to produce a return on their investment- The Dividend. Without the shareholders and that return the company would not exist. It does not exist to give you a job; certainly not one totally out of step with market rates. Reality may be about to crash down upon you.
To all BA CAbin crew reading comments on this site. Trust me, trust BASSA, there will be huge rewards for you all. You will get twice the pay you are on and have chauffer driven rolls royces in 10 years. That's our plan. Just follow us into battle.
Anyway, I don't care that BA made 2,500 managers rendundant and the rest of the staff took a pay cut. This a war agains and its up to us Union reps to show who's on top. There will be casualties and that's just tough. There's a reason for why BA cabin crew are so much better paid than anyone else in the world, it's because of us in BASSA. People losing jobs, taking cuts......booo bloody hooo.
Massive respect to the union. Not often you this kind of unity and leadership in post-Thatcher Britain. And for ALL you people who think the crew are selfish, ask this: Did management freeze their own pay and did management put aside money when profits were high, to buffer against future loses? No, they didn't. They paid the cash to shareholders and let the workers pay the price. I am booked on BA to go see my family over Christmas, but still have 100% support for this action.
BA Cabin Crews should be ashamed of themselves. Not only walking out on a floundering company but ruining one million Christmas' and New Years. They get paid well over £9,000pa MORE than the next British airline and should be happy to have a job in this current economy.
I speak as my friend has to not only reschedule his trip to be with his family over Christmas but pay an extra £1,100 for the privilege!
@PodgeRodriguez Why the hell should anyone be grateful for a job? It is a right. Perhaps we should all talk in a simpering voice and cast our eyes down as well
Lucy, Not only is it a right, it is a privilege to work for such an esteemed company. The cabin crew are f***ing lucky that they aren't privatised and striking agianst the Government, Where would Unite's balls be then?
@PodgeRodriguez ooooh im so priveleged,oooh im grateful and will grovel most humbly. Pass the gruel someone. Are you actually Willie Walsh, oh great esteemed one?
Now you are being petty. The fact is that the average BA cabin crew member is paid more than double than Virgin Atlantic and I personally believe yous are rats leaving a sinking ship. A strike equals less customer loyalty and a greater likelihood that customers will choose a different airline over BA. Therefore, BA looses MORE money and customers and has to cutback even more cabin crew members. Companies are downsizing all over the place because the economy is struggling.
Why should cabin crews be sheltered fron this? On an average income of £29,000p.a. and free flights....hmmm you can buy allot of gruel if thats your thing!
@PodgeRodriguez Why should the bankers be sheltered from it? You see, I see a pattern formed. I dont work for BA and dont earn anything like they do, despite working all my life. But what they earn is nothing compared to the people who caused the whole mess. I work for a small company, the management have cocked up so who is to blame, oh ofcourse us lot, who quite frankly hold the place up. I guess we look at it differently, but this is what makes me angry. Anyway , have a great new year.x
@PodgeRodriguez Forgot to say, i havnt had a rise in 3 years, am asked to justify my existence regularly, including going to toilet. I have worked there for 15 years. I guess I sound poor me and we are getting off the subject, but I know what these people are like.
Im afraid it does me good to see people making a stand. Gruel for me tonight, lol
Big mistake. Some of you have had a privileged life. No mortgage, company outside. Do you really wany to know that you are shitting on your colleagues. As for the public, can you live with both. Selfish. On the ground we have had to take a pay freeze. 15 down to 14. So what. You need to get back in touch with reality,
I have worked for British Airways for 20 years. In all those years I have witnessed the pampering of "Crew". The situation now is that Ground staff will never forgive Cabin Crew for their SEILFISH vote.
Why new contracts for new crew? Easy- BA crew earn on average double their nearest competitor. BA average crew:£28,000, Virgin/BMi average £14,000. These figures are fact and in the public domain published and verified by the CAA. For BA to survive they have to be able to compete. Existing crew would be financially unaffected by this deal. BA are looking to the future, BASSA/UNITE are living in the past . They have no concept of reality,basic economics are anathema to them.
if the state of play is continually job and pay cuts for everyone we would all be better of calling it a day and let the state support us, like they do with so many.,
The reality- Existing BA cabin crew have been offered an generous deal compared to all other BA staff. They have been GUARENTEED NO LOSS OF PAY, despite other departments taking upto a 5% pay cut with increased productivity. Their target savings are to be met by reducing crew by 1 individual on most flights. Only FUTURE crew would be employed on new contracts at market rate pay scales. The current crew have NO LOSS OF PAY, FACT. Checkout "Bassa/Unite BA Cabin Crew Strike" in you tube search.
i think the point you make about serving in iraq and afganistan is unfair.i have the utmost respect for our armed forces but i don't see how you can compare these issues.
It may be an unfair point but you know its true. What on earth would we do if the true professional workers in this country, i.e. Armed forces, nurses, doctors, police etc all decided they would have one union and go on strike because the jobs are too stressful?
Thats not an argument! I could spin that around and say lets give everybody a massive rise and watch the cost of living soar too. Companies will always offset any rises by either asset stripping or bail out from governments. In the end job cuts inevitable or going bust. May I remind you that BA are the highest paid wokers so where does that leave the rest?
thats the point they are now getting asked to work for a unfair day's pay.but i do agree the bit about the spongers in this country sitting about feeding of the rest of us.,
I reckon you must be stuck in the last century. Of course striking isnt the only way. It does not pay to strike in the modern era. Unions and employers have to learn the craft of good negotiation and do their homework. The days of automatic pay rises and job safety are gone. There are laws to protect employees in the workplace from bullying managers so striking would only hurt the bottom line, i.e.the worforce. The only people listening are fare payers who have had the dream holidays dashed.
nobody likes strikes but it is the only way employees can stand up to bullying management otherwise nobody would listen. they now have people listening.
I am a very frequent BA customer - Gold Card holder. Whilst I am sympathetic to the cabin crew and am sure that I would not be happy either, I really think the result will be the demise of the airline.
I know that some crew are also concerned about the deterioration in passengers service as a result of the reduction in crew numbers, especially in Club World, but this strike really is unlikely to help anyone, including the staff.
@msflamingsword.i don't work for b.a i'm just showing my fellow working class people some support since we now seem to be the minority in this country.
a question to the 'sack them all' brigade on here who aren't sleeping with their employers.who is gonna protect you if you find yourselfs in the same position as the ba workers?
What do you mean in the same position? At least they have well paid jobs, more than double every other airline. Besides they are only glorified waitresses. You may like to try serving in Iraq and Afganistan putting your life on the line for peanuts and never striking. And one other thing I for one do not "sleep with my employers" merely work a fair day for fair pay. The reason Britain is broken is that people want to sit around all day on their fat asses and get handouts.
Unite are the scum of the earth, they are grossly miss-informing the people they represent. BA are down £1 billion in revenue, they are in serious danger of going bust with Branson and Virgin ready to step in and pick up the pieces. Like any business in the world, we are in the worst recession ever and companies need to make cuts in order to survive. It's that simple. Unite and their supporters are the scum of the earth and don't deserve the jobs they have. Sack the lot of them i say. Disgrace
I think BA should fire all the current staff they have and give them 48 hours to re-apply the job and start from bottom and making sure NO more UNION involve if they want the job. Plus most of the staff need to feed their family and some spare money for X'mas. If the the staff dislike the decision and go somewhere else and I am sure lots of ppls out there will take their position and of course need time to train and we need to look at long term plan.
i might have to cancel my holiday boo hoo. i will guarantee that the people that say they will boycott b.a. will be using them in the future.we have heard all this crap before.why don't you use ryanair?they let you pay to use their toilets and carry your own luggage to the plane.
I think everyone in the country should go on strike. Just for the hell of it. In fact. I want more money just thinking about it. Give me more because Im greedy and want more money and if I dont get it I will cry like a baby!! WAAA WAAAA WAAAA No wait! Im getting more than I deserve anyway! Lets just ruin christmas for everyone!! FOR THE HELL OF IT!
what is it with directors of companys who run these places into the ground and then get rewarded with a huge pay-off? the workers at the bottom always carry the can. e.g banks,royal-mail,b.a. to name but a few.
I also agree with the guy that points out if you ever admit to being a BA cabin crew in day to day life, you will be socially stigmatised for life.
It would be like admitting to being an exec banker. Speaking of which... thats all these BA flight woman do anyway is jerk these top bankers off on flights.
this is what i love about this country.the way people stick together.Why should ba-.staff accept a pay-cut you hypocrites.Yeah why don't we all go into work tomorrow and offer to work for nothing like 'people' on this forum are suggesting.we should all bow down in front of our employers and say 'we are not worthy'.this country hasn't just 'gone to the dogs' the dogs have thrown it back they don't want it.
BA crews have run into the Swissair problem. Not enough travellers willing to pay more than the competition.
To get the extra service a larger number of higher-paid, longer-service cabin crew can provide. BA has to cut costs, or go broke. I feel sympathy for the crews, because it's not their fault.
But they have to decide: accept worse conditions, or find another job. There isn't a third option. Strike & end up with a bankrupt employer, & the choice will have been made for them.
Well done BA staff. fight these greedy fuckers. Workers [which are us] must be protected from the corporations that pay themselves and their shareholders millions.
Batty boy is very appropriate. A load of typically socialist crap. What will happen if BA go under wonder boy? and there is every possibility it will after this debacle.
Grow up and see past your prejudices if you are capable
a holiday is a break from your working life.... we are trying to save our working lives.... and for the future of all ba passengers onboard service.... i said all i have to... everyone has there opinion and i understand your anger towards us
Rubbish! Oh! aren't you the lucky one, to us its a holiday ONLY..but to you its a way of life...what a patronising attitude you have...YOU, by you actions are denying those of us, who aren't lucky enough to work for BA, a rest from the humdrum lives we lead. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves for using the hard working British public as a bargaining tool. ESPECIALLY in the current economic climate. Frankly you lot, and that scouse leader of yours, disgusts me.
Wow, you have the nerve to call people who are being kept from their famiies and loved ones at Christmas, and losing money and having their trips of a lifetime flushed down the toilet through NO FAULT of their own selfish?!?!
tubefah - we couldn't possibly bring down ba with our strike!
we are standing united for our futures not just for a christmas... this is our careers we are standing up for... do u think all 14000 of us want to mess up everyones holidays? most of us will be stranded in
you may not be able to bring down BA, but by god us passengers who have had their family reunions ruined WILL MAKE SURE BA FALLS.
your careless and selfish actions in this season of giving has taken away what many of us have been waiting and saving for months and you will pay for it.
OH! you couldn't bring down BA eh! Is that what your Oh! so clever shop steward told you. They said the same about Pan Am..remember. BA are teetering on a knife edge. You lot are being used by your union reps..can't you see that. It's a case of 'tell 'em what they want to hear, and we'll have 'em eating out of our hands. Sound familiar - Blair n co. have been doing it for years.Grow up n smell the coffee, even if it is BA coffee.
countrys wishing we will be at home with our families too. you are being selfish by not opening your eyes and seeing how this will effect us forever. if we let the managers get there way and put us on these new contracts - you, the passengers will be mostly effected onboard for the entire future of the service provided by ba cabin crew. another point - our union decided to strike over xmas, we wern't told when it would happen until after the ballot results.
Your all a bunch of mugs being used by your Unions to further their power hunger . Can't you see that Jo Public will be hanging you lot up in the street if you go ahead .
and by the way have you seen your pension defecit - £3.7 BILLION
exactly - i chose my career with british airways because they did treat cabin crew with the best terms and conditions now they want to change them and if they go ahead i would rather work for a 9-5 job and earn more money! i have applied for fire fighter role, and a job as a sales assistant at present... nurse...are u kidding me - that is another area where they are not paid enough for what they deserve!
The world's best wouldn't be insulting the British public like this. You've timed your action to hurt US as badly as possible.
What's more, your own foolishness might bring down BA entirely. I know I certainly won't give BA another penny. And yeah, i've seen the "Ruined Christmases will be Forgotten" memo. Let me assure you, they will NOT.
I just feel bad for all the other travellers and staff who are going to be hurt by this selfish, malicious action.
our union has come to its last straw. we just want to save our jobs and not be forced onto a new contract which will totally change our working conditions, we are willing to change some things but for years now ba managers have been trying to put us on a cheaper pay scale and work us to the hardest possible.
i would like to see all these people who are complaining fly every week thousands of miles in aircraft where we have to serve 100's of passengers, in different time zones, be trained to fight fires, be medically trained and ready to resuscitate, be prepared for emegency evacuations/ditchings. yes there are other companys which do pay less and work there crew very hard but we are the worlds best cabin crew because we have better working conditions than other carriers,,.
if ba get what they want and put us on this new fleet the standard of customer service on board will decline... due to less days off being given down route and at home we will be so tired. our service routine is already going downhill due to what they imposed in november - taking one (some destinations 2) purser off each aircraft.
The figures are widely available and in the public domain. Each year the CAA publishes the average cabin crew salary for each of the UK airlines. It's a simple but telling calculation; cabin crew costs directly attributed to salaries and allowances/cabin crew headcount(part time working adjusted). The figures are there for anyone to see. BA crew, on average, are remunerated more than double their nearest competitor. Change is inevitable if BA wishes to survive.
BA cabin staff get £30k a year!! No real education required. Virgin cabin crew get 14k a year.... lets see.
The way the BA cabin staff cheered at the strike shows they are all retards. Be grateful for earning so much money for a non-degree job!!!! And get the hell back to work you losers!!
The Reality: BA AVERAGE cabin crew salary is £28,000.CSD Longhaul average £56,000,CSD Shorthaul £52,000. These are more than double their nearest rivals BMi/Virgin. Fact: BA will guarantee these salaries for existing staff but will not employ new joiners on these crazy scales; they can't, they couldn't possibly compete. 1 less crew member on most flights is minimal pain considering most BA staff have agreed pay cuts and productivity increases. UNITE are beneath contempt.
the comment below is just typical of 'society' today .people like this couldn't give a toss if people lose their jobs and are only interested in their own little sad world.one day this could happen to you .stones in glass houses and all that.
'Documents filed with the trade union certification office, a regulatory body, reveal that Derek Simpson, 64, Unite's other joint general secretary, received a salary of £97,027, up 4 per cent on the previous year, housing benefit of £38,340 and £24,480 toward his chauffeur-driven car'
- If he's paid this much no wonder hes lost touch with reality .......
you are a Muppet Britboi39. You dont do anything anymore. You dont even give the safety presentations. It takes years to train pilots and engineers. it takes days / weeks to train cabin crew. You are have a feeling of self importance which is ridiculous. I hope the strike is overruled and people like you who probably strike to just have xmas at home all get the sack. And one last thing you are a C*NT and I will come to Heathrow and SPIT in your face when i see you.
Thanks guys.. Our dream holiday in Hong Kong for New Years Eve is ruined... hope you're very pleased with your selfish work!!! or should i say lack of it cheers!
palletfrag /leeroy4980 Don't you dare call me that, if you have something to say, come to Heathrow on a strike day and say it to our faces... we are there to save your lives on an aircraft, but I know for sure, I will enjoy watching yours burn.
Power to the people(Cabin Crew Staff)......the illuminati are now dying in their greed.....their day has come the force of the people always comes first!
Yep, can feel there 'heavy hearts' from here...plenty of people unemployed, if they don't like it, leave, let someone who wants a job start working...
The attitude of some people here is amazing. These people are striking because it looks like management is trying to take their pensions and cut their pay by 30% but all you care about is your holiday!
You do realise that without Unions we'd all still be working over 12 hours a day for a few pence, never able to retire and likely to drop dead from exhaustion?
The shareholders have sucked the company dry- that's why its in trouble. Re-nationalise it and cut out these leeches.
Those Union top guys already keep their pockets full of £££ U think they really care about U guys? If deal success they get even more money! Gready cunts! Luckily I flying with Virgin this time after poor services with BA while travelling to US in Business Class and BA Premier Economic suck and ripped off! Will be happy to see them go down and all the staff will re-think and get lower pay with other airline!
Well done Len, you might just as well have sent out the P45's with your ballot papers. Sorry, but I don't like being held to ransom and yes I have been affected by the recession just like 1000's of other people in the country. Stop whinging and get back to work...while you still have a job!!!
waken up people see what's going on here.big companys like b.airways are using the economy as a excuse to pay of workers.then they can get immigrants to apply for the jobs for half the money .cheap labour i think they call it.
Voting for your P45's The worlds favourite airline reduced to the worlds biggest joke ! Have fun when you have no jobs or end up running the line for O leary
it hurts me to say it but thatcher was right when she said that' there was no such thing as society just individuals' and the i'm all right jack ' attitude from 'people' on this forum.have you heard yourselves people might have to delay their holidays because of the strike.boo hoo. yeah sack them all lets put even more people on the dole why not.
absolutely- people will choose to fly with other operators who care more for their customers...
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.... if BA does go broke then blame will surely fall on the the greedy cabin staff who've choosen the bite the hand that feeds - it's certainly not the fault of the suffering BA passengers.
this is the problem with british workers these days, they bitch and moan to the government about immigrants taking their jobs, then they stage strikes and refuse to do the said jobs themselves thus pushing the country deeper into recession and inflicting even more pay cuts and layoffs on themselves which they in turn blame on immigration.
its an endless downward spiral of stupidity and refusal to accept responsibility and compromise.
This is not what employments rights give. Industrial action is for decent rights of the workers not this. Unions are blackmailing BA and this strike should be classed illegal and all of them sacked. This will backfire on the Unions and employees...Merry Christmas BA.
I AGREE BA SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cabin crews get paid like 35,000 pounds a year twice as much as virgin atlantic and they still have the cheek to go on a strike all because of them my trip to see my parents at london is ruined someone ought to shoot the heads of those union leaders LET"S BOYCOTT BA TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!
as i see it b.a staff are having their terms and conditions changed without consultation,jobs are being cut and there is no trust in management.the comparisons with postal workers here is frightening.POSTAL WORKERS SUPPORT B.A STAFF.
As I see it BA has not made any money for ages and like other compnies are making cuts to keep going. Why the hell is BA different to others? They got some right to stay a float while all others are making cuts?
I should come into the real world for a min and see what has happened to others. They should think themselves lucky most still have a job.
I don't get the chip on the shoulder about serving ready meals
usernamealredytaken 9 months ago
Looking at the uniforms, is this in the 1980ties?
valicourt 1 year ago
@valicourt all of the ITN videos are from a thousand years ago....old Club etc!!! BA has changed....A LOT!!!!
hac12394 1 year ago
just to correct you,employment law is now set from BRUSSELS not new liebour.
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@nsxji-what you mean is more power to the capitalist who are screwing their work force into the ground.-
MegaTrainspotter 1 year ago
megatrainspotter, get of your arse and go self employed and maybe you will get a tosser working for you. Real change is coming. Employment law is out of control thanks to new Labour.
nsxjl 1 year ago
I'm shame to be British to much power to unions, had strikes at Post Office then BA and now British Rail thinking of strikes what next !, there are no British company left anymore Roll Royce sold to Germany, Rover sold to China, British banks i.e. Bradford and Bingley, Abbey National etc...sold to Spain what next !!! Gordan Brown sold the gold bullion, amde loads of promise and then goes back on them, never can trust any politician, greedy and selfish !!!!
SHUNFAT 1 year ago
BA staff have the support of airline workers in Australia,America. France, Spain, Germany.
MegaTrainspotter 1 year ago
@thebobandroundyshow-Be careful not to throw stones in glass houses. How safe is your job?
MegaTrainspotter 1 year ago
Ha ha.. Unite are being smashed by Willy Walsh. Len McCluskey is such a slow witted prick.
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MegaTrainspotter 1 year ago
This is all about unions flexing its muscles and has nothing to do with pay or conditions at BA, If BA goes bankrupt then all of these cabin crew will be lining up at the dole office while all of these union bosses will still be in there £60,000 a year jobs and it will not affect them at all.
The Government should be mediating in this dispute but are too scared of losing millions in funding from their union paymasters so the labour party cowers in their offices and the union barons run riot.
cloud3941 1 year ago
The Labour Party takes £11 million in doantions from this union but refuses to intervene.
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It gives them an opportunity to slash jobs and change workers terms and conditions.They can also wiggle out of their pension crisis.
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if they decide to strike in the next ballot then their respective planes will be downed. give them free air tickets then when all crew are in their seats & the plane is full take off & let off a 1000lb bomb. i'd watch that video all day. metal & bodies everywhere. ha ha
wiggymole01 2 years ago
Let's all get naked!!!
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MegaTrainspotter 2 years ago
happy new -year everybody.2010 the year were the working class in this country are trampled into the ground by new liebour.
MegaTrainspotter 2 years ago
@smudgerbuster The unions rule with fear and intimidation? I think not! and I wish!! Our union has disintigrated now and I see people being treated like shit every day. I spend my working life wanting to smack a few people in the mouth. For Gods sake lets start standing up to these people. How will they operate without their workers? They should learn respect.
lucylu123100 2 years ago
Sadly, the govt has run out of money and won't be able to save this dying company. You either adopt a collective interest to succeed or get taken over by another carrier. the choice is yours.
maclachj1 2 years ago
I hope these ungrateful jerks force the company into bankruptcy and lose their pensions. NO BAILOUT!!!!! No government lifelines. No nationalization of pensions. Let them lie in the bed they make.
userid8765 2 years ago
interesting to see the re- ballot result ,12 days without pay, i didnt vote for that.
quorny1 2 years ago
Unite = Undermine...national...interest... towards ...extinction.
maclachj1 2 years ago
maclachj1 = tosser
RegenBogenBlick 2 years ago
RegentBareBack for Prime Minister
maclachj1 2 years ago
They wont be cheering when they are on dole
LucasDecimus 2 years ago
yeh capitalism really worked for the banks.the british tax-payer had to bail out these greedy bankers. tit.
09876543217028 2 years ago
didn't socialism bail out the capitalist bankers?
09876543217028 2 years ago
Look what socialism has done to this country. BRING BACK THATCHER
organist12345 2 years ago
You're a cock.
RegenBogenBlick 2 years ago
this seems to be how broken britain now works.the management of these companys run them into the ground and get rewarded for it while the workers get shafted.
09876543217028 2 years ago
ALL OUT BRAVVERS!
Trotskyist idiot!
mercdriver 2 years ago
@09876543217028 yep that is happening everywhere. if no one stands up for the workers we are well and truly stuffed
lucylu123100 2 years ago 2
cabin crew are now saying we didn't know it was 12 days...well maybe you should question what you are actually putting your name to.......... ONE MILLION passengers punished for what........i am flying over xmas and even though i am relieved the flights are going ahead i am not looking forward to being in such close contact with the cabin crew! !!
julesj89 2 years ago
Load of overpaid jumped up waiters and waitress.
daterwat666 2 years ago
hahahahaha - now you ba noobs know what it feels like to get shafted. A victory for common sense!
CabinCrewAreNoob 2 years ago
Luckiley the unite union leaders sre courupt and the BA legal team saw thru it .
Unite unions are a bunch of dinosaurs who are badly advised.
If the BA cabin crew want to sort out there gripes they should spend more time voting in a higher class team of leaders for there union.
At least this is a happy ending for the customers (which is what the business should be about!
The cabin crew live to fight another day even though they have a lot to answer to.
Back to work chaps.
FLY THE FLAG!
clamoy 2 years ago
Reality has now descended!! BA granted injunction against Cabin Crew insanity. Thank God for common sense.
bushbuckuk 2 years ago 2
I detect some scurrilous posts, bassaunionrep-? i'm not so sure. BioProject, you reveal a staggering lack of understanding of how business's work and what is there purpose. The company is owned by the shareholders and exists to produce a return on their investment- The Dividend. Without the shareholders and that return the company would not exist. It does not exist to give you a job; certainly not one totally out of step with market rates. Reality may be about to crash down upon you.
bushbuckuk 2 years ago
To all BA CAbin crew reading comments on this site. Trust me, trust BASSA, there will be huge rewards for you all. You will get twice the pay you are on and have chauffer driven rolls royces in 10 years. That's our plan. Just follow us into battle.
bassaunionrep 2 years ago
Well said BioprojectA.
Anyway, I don't care that BA made 2,500 managers rendundant and the rest of the staff took a pay cut. This a war agains and its up to us Union reps to show who's on top. There will be casualties and that's just tough. There's a reason for why BA cabin crew are so much better paid than anyone else in the world, it's because of us in BASSA. People losing jobs, taking cuts......booo bloody hooo.
bassaunionrep 2 years ago
Massive respect to the union. Not often you this kind of unity and leadership in post-Thatcher Britain. And for ALL you people who think the crew are selfish, ask this: Did management freeze their own pay and did management put aside money when profits were high, to buffer against future loses? No, they didn't. They paid the cash to shareholders and let the workers pay the price. I am booked on BA to go see my family over Christmas, but still have 100% support for this action.
BioProjectA 2 years ago
BA Cabin Crews should be ashamed of themselves. Not only walking out on a floundering company but ruining one million Christmas' and New Years. They get paid well over £9,000pa MORE than the next British airline and should be happy to have a job in this current economy.
I speak as my friend has to not only reschedule his trip to be with his family over Christmas but pay an extra £1,100 for the privilege!
PodgeRodriguez 2 years ago
@PodgeRodriguez Why the hell should anyone be grateful for a job? It is a right. Perhaps we should all talk in a simpering voice and cast our eyes down as well
lucylu123100 2 years ago
Lucy, Not only is it a right, it is a privilege to work for such an esteemed company. The cabin crew are f***ing lucky that they aren't privatised and striking agianst the Government, Where would Unite's balls be then?
PodgeRodriguez 2 years ago
@PodgeRodriguez ooooh im so priveleged,oooh im grateful and will grovel most humbly. Pass the gruel someone. Are you actually Willie Walsh, oh great esteemed one?
lucylu123100 2 years ago
Now you are being petty. The fact is that the average BA cabin crew member is paid more than double than Virgin Atlantic and I personally believe yous are rats leaving a sinking ship. A strike equals less customer loyalty and a greater likelihood that customers will choose a different airline over BA. Therefore, BA looses MORE money and customers and has to cutback even more cabin crew members. Companies are downsizing all over the place because the economy is struggling.
PodgeRodriguez 2 years ago
Why should cabin crews be sheltered fron this? On an average income of £29,000p.a. and free flights....hmmm you can buy allot of gruel if thats your thing!
PodgeRodriguez 2 years ago
@PodgeRodriguez Why should the bankers be sheltered from it? You see, I see a pattern formed. I dont work for BA and dont earn anything like they do, despite working all my life. But what they earn is nothing compared to the people who caused the whole mess. I work for a small company, the management have cocked up so who is to blame, oh ofcourse us lot, who quite frankly hold the place up. I guess we look at it differently, but this is what makes me angry. Anyway , have a great new year.x
lucylu123100 2 years ago
@PodgeRodriguez Forgot to say, i havnt had a rise in 3 years, am asked to justify my existence regularly, including going to toilet. I have worked there for 15 years. I guess I sound poor me and we are getting off the subject, but I know what these people are like.
Im afraid it does me good to see people making a stand. Gruel for me tonight, lol
lucylu123100 2 years ago
Big mistake. Some of you have had a privileged life. No mortgage, company outside. Do you really wany to know that you are shitting on your colleagues. As for the public, can you live with both. Selfish. On the ground we have had to take a pay freeze. 15 down to 14. So what. You need to get back in touch with reality,
applesky007 2 years ago
I have worked for British Airways for 20 years. In all those years I have witnessed the pampering of "Crew". The situation now is that Ground staff will never forgive Cabin Crew for their SEILFISH vote.
applesky007 2 years ago
The definition of Selfishness:
The act of placing one's own needs or desires above the needs or desires of others.
Synonyms:
self-centred, self-interested, greedy, mercenary, self-seeking, ungenerous, cuntishness
TheJahmaster 2 years ago
@fludblud-why is someone a communist if the aren't prepared to let an employer trample on them?what a ridiculous thing to say.
09876543217028 2 years ago
098....fact is you could not function if others did not push the buttons for you - thats why you are what you are.
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zebbox 2 years ago
Why new contracts for new crew? Easy- BA crew earn on average double their nearest competitor. BA average crew:£28,000, Virgin/BMi average £14,000. These figures are fact and in the public domain published and verified by the CAA. For BA to survive they have to be able to compete. Existing crew would be financially unaffected by this deal. BA are looking to the future, BASSA/UNITE are living in the past . They have no concept of reality,basic economics are anathema to them.
bushbuckuk 2 years ago
if the state of play is continually job and pay cuts for everyone we would all be better of calling it a day and let the state support us, like they do with so many.,
09876543217028 2 years ago
098 - you'll soon be retiring with your big royal mail pension so what are you still wingeing on about?
zebbox 2 years ago
The reality- Existing BA cabin crew have been offered an generous deal compared to all other BA staff. They have been GUARENTEED NO LOSS OF PAY, despite other departments taking upto a 5% pay cut with increased productivity. Their target savings are to be met by reducing crew by 1 individual on most flights. Only FUTURE crew would be employed on new contracts at market rate pay scales. The current crew have NO LOSS OF PAY, FACT. Checkout "Bassa/Unite BA Cabin Crew Strike" in you tube search.
bushbuckuk 2 years ago
i seem to remember the police going on strike last year for pay or have i got that wrong?i'll have to check up on that.
09876543217028 2 years ago
i think the point you make about serving in iraq and afganistan is unfair.i have the utmost respect for our armed forces but i don't see how you can compare these issues.
09876543217028 2 years ago
It may be an unfair point but you know its true. What on earth would we do if the true professional workers in this country, i.e. Armed forces, nurses, doctors, police etc all decided they would have one union and go on strike because the jobs are too stressful?
cobra8503 2 years ago
oh ,if the ba workers accept a pay-cut will gas,electricity.telephone,mortgage,loans,and the cost of living be cut to. mmmm........
09876543217028 2 years ago
Thats not an argument! I could spin that around and say lets give everybody a massive rise and watch the cost of living soar too. Companies will always offset any rises by either asset stripping or bail out from governments. In the end job cuts inevitable or going bust. May I remind you that BA are the highest paid wokers so where does that leave the rest?
cobra8503 2 years ago
thats the point they are now getting asked to work for a unfair day's pay.but i do agree the bit about the spongers in this country sitting about feeding of the rest of us.,
09876543217028 2 years ago
You must have a bit on inside knowledge to know whether they are getting a fare days pay?
cobra8503 2 years ago
UP THE WORKERS.FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS
09876543217028 2 years ago
I reckon you must be stuck in the last century. Of course striking isnt the only way. It does not pay to strike in the modern era. Unions and employers have to learn the craft of good negotiation and do their homework. The days of automatic pay rises and job safety are gone. There are laws to protect employees in the workplace from bullying managers so striking would only hurt the bottom line, i.e.the worforce. The only people listening are fare payers who have had the dream holidays dashed.
cobra8503 2 years ago
nobody likes strikes but it is the only way employees can stand up to bullying management otherwise nobody would listen. they now have people listening.
09876543217028 2 years ago
I am a very frequent BA customer - Gold Card holder. Whilst I am sympathetic to the cabin crew and am sure that I would not be happy either, I really think the result will be the demise of the airline.
I know that some crew are also concerned about the deterioration in passengers service as a result of the reduction in crew numbers, especially in Club World, but this strike really is unlikely to help anyone, including the staff.
123farringdon 2 years ago
@msflamingsword.i don't work for b.a i'm just showing my fellow working class people some support since we now seem to be the minority in this country.
09876543217028 2 years ago
a question to the 'sack them all' brigade on here who aren't sleeping with their employers.who is gonna protect you if you find yourselfs in the same position as the ba workers?
09876543217028 2 years ago
What do you mean in the same position? At least they have well paid jobs, more than double every other airline. Besides they are only glorified waitresses. You may like to try serving in Iraq and Afganistan putting your life on the line for peanuts and never striking. And one other thing I for one do not "sleep with my employers" merely work a fair day for fair pay. The reason Britain is broken is that people want to sit around all day on their fat asses and get handouts.
cobra8503 2 years ago
new liebour or tories,god what a choice.broken britain p.l.c
09876543217028 2 years ago
it's new liebour that protect the lazy more like.
09876543217028 2 years ago
Unite are the scum of the earth, they are grossly miss-informing the people they represent. BA are down £1 billion in revenue, they are in serious danger of going bust with Branson and Virgin ready to step in and pick up the pieces. Like any business in the world, we are in the worst recession ever and companies need to make cuts in order to survive. It's that simple. Unite and their supporters are the scum of the earth and don't deserve the jobs they have. Sack the lot of them i say. Disgrace
joshfezz 2 years ago
I think BA should fire all the current staff they have and give them 48 hours to re-apply the job and start from bottom and making sure NO more UNION involve if they want the job. Plus most of the staff need to feed their family and some spare money for X'mas. If the the staff dislike the decision and go somewhere else and I am sure lots of ppls out there will take their position and of course need time to train and we need to look at long term plan.
oohlala1974 2 years ago 2
Absolutely bang on, only wish they would do the same to aslef. Plenty of people who want to work and its good money. Unions protect the lazy.
cobra8503 2 years ago
Lazy union scum. Wouldnt know hard work if it hit them!
cobra8503 2 years ago
09876543217028 works part time on British Airways Heathrow and voted for the ballot to strike dont trust
MsFlamingSword 2 years ago
i prefered willie walsh when he was doing the x-factor show.
09876543217028 2 years ago
lol
CabinCrewAreNoob 2 years ago 2
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i might have to cancel my holiday boo hoo. i will guarantee that the people that say they will boycott b.a. will be using them in the future.we have heard all this crap before.why don't you use ryanair?they let you pay to use their toilets and carry your own luggage to the plane.
09876543217028 2 years ago
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you haven't worked a day in your life.who you kidding?your constantly on strike you parasite.
09876543217028 2 years ago
I think everyone in the country should go on strike. Just for the hell of it. In fact. I want more money just thinking about it. Give me more because Im greedy and want more money and if I dont get it I will cry like a baby!! WAAA WAAAA WAAAA No wait! Im getting more than I deserve anyway! Lets just ruin christmas for everyone!! FOR THE HELL OF IT!
CabinCrewAreNoob 2 years ago 2
what is it with directors of companys who run these places into the ground and then get rewarded with a huge pay-off? the workers at the bottom always carry the can. e.g banks,royal-mail,b.a. to name but a few.
09876543217028 2 years ago
I have to agree with you. They are total noobs.
I also agree with the guy that points out if you ever admit to being a BA cabin crew in day to day life, you will be socially stigmatised for life.
It would be like admitting to being an exec banker. Speaking of which... thats all these BA flight woman do anyway is jerk these top bankers off on flights.
Put them all in a pit together!
CabinCrewAreNoob 2 years ago 2
BA cabin crew are overpaid. I hope the courts rape the strike action just as much as the cabin crews have raped the population.
30k a year! Be grateful if it was cut to just 20k which is probably about right for the job.
No one will ever forget this outrage!!
DOWN WITH THE CABIN CREWS!!!
joe9songs 2 years ago 2
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flyboyz83 2 years ago
i see the usual ' sack the lot of them' suspects are rearing their ugly heads.
09876543217028 2 years ago
and i see commie scum rearing theirs.
fludblud 2 years ago
this is what i love about this country.the way people stick together.Why should ba-.staff accept a pay-cut you hypocrites.Yeah why don't we all go into work tomorrow and offer to work for nothing like 'people' on this forum are suggesting.we should all bow down in front of our employers and say 'we are not worthy'.this country hasn't just 'gone to the dogs' the dogs have thrown it back they don't want it.
09876543217028 2 years ago
good to see m.thatcher is joining the debate today using @angryal.
09876543217028 2 years ago
Passengers should strike back...stop using BA all together so all them dumbass lose there jobs!
Hotrodhayabusa 2 years ago
Please would an ordinary BA cabin crew answer me two questions.
1. What on earth are you being asked to do that is so dreadful it needs a 12 day strike.
2. Given BA has lost £700 million in just 12 months what ideas have you got to make it profitable?
Please dont just say changes to t&cs, we all go through this and please dont say cost savings are a management problem. Thanks
topcat1958 2 years ago
BA crews have run into the Swissair problem. Not enough travellers willing to pay more than the competition.
To get the extra service a larger number of higher-paid, longer-service cabin crew can provide. BA has to cut costs, or go broke. I feel sympathy for the crews, because it's not their fault.
But they have to decide: accept worse conditions, or find another job. There isn't a third option. Strike & end up with a bankrupt employer, & the choice will have been made for them.
Hard times!
clamoy 2 years ago
Thanks for ruining people's xmas's you have NO public support for this get back to work
bugatti103 2 years ago
Well done BA staff. fight these greedy fuckers. Workers [which are us] must be protected from the corporations that pay themselves and their shareholders millions.
batttyboi 2 years ago
@batttyboi
Batty boy is very appropriate. A load of typically socialist crap. What will happen if BA go under wonder boy? and there is every possibility it will after this debacle.
Grow up and see past your prejudices if you are capable
TheAngryal 2 years ago
"Batty boy is very appropriate".
"Grow up and see past your prejudices".
You're very funny, although a little bit special.
RegenBogenBlick 2 years ago
a holiday is a break from your working life.... we are trying to save our working lives.... and for the future of all ba passengers onboard service.... i said all i have to... everyone has there opinion and i understand your anger towards us
missflightattendant 2 years ago
We are all in the same boat due to the world recession. At least you currently have a job.
If this strike goes ahead its highly likely that BA will go down the pan.
Plenty of other airlines ready to step in.
Thing is they will not offer anywhere near the salary BA staff currently offer.
I hope to see you with a smile next week during my Christmas flight to Germany.
I am sure we will all be very understanding and grateful for your hard work.
Best of luck to you missflightattendant.
clamoy 2 years ago
@missflightattendant
Rubbish! Oh! aren't you the lucky one, to us its a holiday ONLY..but to you its a way of life...what a patronising attitude you have...YOU, by you actions are denying those of us, who aren't lucky enough to work for BA, a rest from the humdrum lives we lead. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves for using the hard working British public as a bargaining tool. ESPECIALLY in the current economic climate. Frankly you lot, and that scouse leader of yours, disgusts me.
TheAngryal 2 years ago
Wow, you have the nerve to call people who are being kept from their famiies and loved ones at Christmas, and losing money and having their trips of a lifetime flushed down the toilet through NO FAULT of their own selfish?!?!
What flipping planet are you on?
Tubefah 2 years ago
tubefah - we couldn't possibly bring down ba with our strike!
we are standing united for our futures not just for a christmas... this is our careers we are standing up for... do u think all 14000 of us want to mess up everyones holidays? most of us will be stranded in
missflightattendant 2 years ago
you may not be able to bring down BA, but by god us passengers who have had their family reunions ruined WILL MAKE SURE BA FALLS.
your careless and selfish actions in this season of giving has taken away what many of us have been waiting and saving for months and you will pay for it.
enjoy your last employed christmas.
fludblud 2 years ago
@missflightattendant
OH! you couldn't bring down BA eh! Is that what your Oh! so clever shop steward told you. They said the same about Pan Am..remember. BA are teetering on a knife edge. You lot are being used by your union reps..can't you see that. It's a case of 'tell 'em what they want to hear, and we'll have 'em eating out of our hands. Sound familiar - Blair n co. have been doing it for years.Grow up n smell the coffee, even if it is BA coffee.
TheAngryal 2 years ago
countrys wishing we will be at home with our families too. you are being selfish by not opening your eyes and seeing how this will effect us forever. if we let the managers get there way and put us on these new contracts - you, the passengers will be mostly effected onboard for the entire future of the service provided by ba cabin crew. another point - our union decided to strike over xmas, we wern't told when it would happen until after the ballot results.
missflightattendant 2 years ago
@missflightattendant.
Your all a bunch of mugs being used by your Unions to further their power hunger . Can't you see that Jo Public will be hanging you lot up in the street if you go ahead .
and by the way have you seen your pension defecit - £3.7 BILLION
wp12341 2 years ago
exactly - i chose my career with british airways because they did treat cabin crew with the best terms and conditions now they want to change them and if they go ahead i would rather work for a 9-5 job and earn more money! i have applied for fire fighter role, and a job as a sales assistant at present... nurse...are u kidding me - that is another area where they are not paid enough for what they deserve!
missflightattendant 2 years ago
World's best cabin crew. Hilarious.
The world's best wouldn't be insulting the British public like this. You've timed your action to hurt US as badly as possible.
What's more, your own foolishness might bring down BA entirely. I know I certainly won't give BA another penny. And yeah, i've seen the "Ruined Christmases will be Forgotten" memo. Let me assure you, they will NOT.
I just feel bad for all the other travellers and staff who are going to be hurt by this selfish, malicious action.
Tubefah 2 years ago
our union has come to its last straw. we just want to save our jobs and not be forced onto a new contract which will totally change our working conditions, we are willing to change some things but for years now ba managers have been trying to put us on a cheaper pay scale and work us to the hardest possible.
missflightattendant 2 years ago
i would like to see all these people who are complaining fly every week thousands of miles in aircraft where we have to serve 100's of passengers, in different time zones, be trained to fight fires, be medically trained and ready to resuscitate, be prepared for emegency evacuations/ditchings. yes there are other companys which do pay less and work there crew very hard but we are the worlds best cabin crew because we have better working conditions than other carriers,,.
missflightattendant 2 years ago
Life's hard for many others out here!
You chose your career, If you cant hack it do something else? Fire fighter, Nurse, Estate agent?
clamoy 2 years ago
@ missflightattendant's
' Worlds best' and legends in their own minds. Think the altitudes got to your head ..
wp12341 2 years ago 2
if ba get what they want and put us on this new fleet the standard of customer service on board will decline... due to less days off being given down route and at home we will be so tired. our service routine is already going downhill due to what they imposed in november - taking one (some destinations 2) purser off each aircraft.
missflightattendant 2 years ago
If the BA Cabin crew destroy my hard earned Christmas holiday I will want revenge.
Have they thought about the power and position of 1 million hacked off passengers?
They will find it difficult to get employed in future jobs, loans,mortgages delayed or refused!
Aside from....
"Let me introduce Colin ,He's a BA Bar- Steward!!!
Your looking at a miserable 2010 unless you come to your senses and go back to work like the rest of us.
Yes life's hard, but it could be a lot harder.
Think on it.
clamoy 2 years ago
The figures are widely available and in the public domain. Each year the CAA publishes the average cabin crew salary for each of the UK airlines. It's a simple but telling calculation; cabin crew costs directly attributed to salaries and allowances/cabin crew headcount(part time working adjusted). The figures are there for anyone to see. BA crew, on average, are remunerated more than double their nearest competitor. Change is inevitable if BA wishes to survive.
bushbuckuk 2 years ago
we are lucky to take home £1500 a month...i don't know where these figures have come from....i wish i was getting paid that amount!!!!
missflightattendant 2 years ago
BA cabin staff get £30k a year!! No real education required. Virgin cabin crew get 14k a year.... lets see.
The way the BA cabin staff cheered at the strike shows they are all retards. Be grateful for earning so much money for a non-degree job!!!! And get the hell back to work you losers!!
I will never forgive the BA cabin crews.
joe9songs 2 years ago
The Reality: BA AVERAGE cabin crew salary is £28,000.CSD Longhaul average £56,000,CSD Shorthaul £52,000. These are more than double their nearest rivals BMi/Virgin. Fact: BA will guarantee these salaries for existing staff but will not employ new joiners on these crazy scales; they can't, they couldn't possibly compete. 1 less crew member on most flights is minimal pain considering most BA staff have agreed pay cuts and productivity increases. UNITE are beneath contempt.
bushbuckuk 2 years ago 2
the comment below is just typical of 'society' today .people like this couldn't give a toss if people lose their jobs and are only interested in their own little sad world.one day this could happen to you .stones in glass houses and all that.
09876543217028 2 years ago
'Documents filed with the trade union certification office, a regulatory body, reveal that Derek Simpson, 64, Unite's other joint general secretary, received a salary of £97,027, up 4 per cent on the previous year, housing benefit of £38,340 and £24,480 toward his chauffeur-driven car'
- If he's paid this much no wonder hes lost touch with reality .......
wp12341 2 years ago
Well done for your strike action on BA... hopefully by next year they will go bust and you will be unemployed for Christmas you selfish scum bags...
TheJahmaster 2 years ago
you are a Muppet Britboi39. You dont do anything anymore. You dont even give the safety presentations. It takes years to train pilots and engineers. it takes days / weeks to train cabin crew. You are have a feeling of self importance which is ridiculous. I hope the strike is overruled and people like you who probably strike to just have xmas at home all get the sack. And one last thing you are a C*NT and I will come to Heathrow and SPIT in your face when i see you.
robertto233 2 years ago
Thanks guys.. Our dream holiday in Hong Kong for New Years Eve is ruined... hope you're very pleased with your selfish work!!! or should i say lack of it cheers!
Dondonlb 2 years ago
palletfrag /leeroy4980 Don't you dare call me that, if you have something to say, come to Heathrow on a strike day and say it to our faces... we are there to save your lives on an aircraft, but I know for sure, I will enjoy watching yours burn.
Britboi39 2 years ago
Power to the people(Cabin Crew Staff)......the illuminati are now dying in their greed.....their day has come the force of the people always comes first!
Rise Up!
coxybass 2 years ago
Yep, can feel there 'heavy hearts' from here...plenty of people unemployed, if they don't like it, leave, let someone who wants a job start working...
tooseestorm7 2 years ago
Leafblade27. Even Unite isn't making the claims you make.
The Union and cabin crews look bad in this action. Their target dates for the strike says much about how they view their customers.
As for renationalising British Airways..why would the taxpayers support taking on a company that its workers seem determined to destroy.
diplomeuk 2 years ago
The attitude of some people here is amazing. These people are striking because it looks like management is trying to take their pensions and cut their pay by 30% but all you care about is your holiday!
You do realise that without Unions we'd all still be working over 12 hours a day for a few pence, never able to retire and likely to drop dead from exhaustion?
The shareholders have sucked the company dry- that's why its in trouble. Re-nationalise it and cut out these leeches.
Leafblade27 2 years ago
Those Union top guys already keep their pockets full of £££ U think they really care about U guys? If deal success they get even more money! Gready cunts! Luckily I flying with Virgin this time after poor services with BA while travelling to US in Business Class and BA Premier Economic suck and ripped off! Will be happy to see them go down and all the staff will re-think and get lower pay with other airline!
oohlala1974 2 years ago
dont call me guys
coxybass 2 years ago
at last the staff stand up to these greedy shareholders.
and they still cover up that crash!
Assholes!
Rise up the workers
coxybass 2 years ago
Fucking bunch of cunts!
palletfrag 2 years ago
bunch of cunts
leeroy4980 2 years ago
Well done Len, you might just as well have sent out the P45's with your ballot papers. Sorry, but I don't like being held to ransom and yes I have been affected by the recession just like 1000's of other people in the country. Stop whinging and get back to work...while you still have a job!!!
mgc01 2 years ago
waken up people see what's going on here.big companys like b.airways are using the economy as a excuse to pay of workers.then they can get immigrants to apply for the jobs for half the money .cheap labour i think they call it.
09876543217028 2 years ago
Voting for your P45's The worlds favourite airline reduced to the worlds biggest joke ! Have fun when you have no jobs or end up running the line for O leary
Terrykbrown 2 years ago
it hurts me to say it but thatcher was right when she said that' there was no such thing as society just individuals' and the i'm all right jack ' attitude from 'people' on this forum.have you heard yourselves people might have to delay their holidays because of the strike.boo hoo. yeah sack them all lets put even more people on the dole why not.
09876543217028 2 years ago
absolutely- people will choose to fly with other operators who care more for their customers...
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.... if BA does go broke then blame will surely fall on the the greedy cabin staff who've choosen the bite the hand that feeds - it's certainly not the fault of the suffering BA passengers.
maxfm83 2 years ago
Unite should be ashamed. They may very well bring BA down
I will avoid BA in the future, and we fly often, so that I don't have to experience flight crews who think so little of their passengers.
diplomeuk 2 years ago
this is the problem with british workers these days, they bitch and moan to the government about immigrants taking their jobs, then they stage strikes and refuse to do the said jobs themselves thus pushing the country deeper into recession and inflicting even more pay cuts and layoffs on themselves which they in turn blame on immigration.
its an endless downward spiral of stupidity and refusal to accept responsibility and compromise.
fludblud 2 years ago
Yeah, totally agree, it only costs a bowl of rice in India to get the natives off their arses and make a hundred shirts an hour for Hemel.
We have to compete. Sod the workers, lets make shedloads, award ourselves massive bonuses and have our tax returns lost in the post.
That's the way to do business. If they complain shoot the fuckers!!!
egapnala65 2 years ago
This is not what employments rights give. Industrial action is for decent rights of the workers not this. Unions are blackmailing BA and this strike should be classed illegal and all of them sacked. This will backfire on the Unions and employees...Merry Christmas BA.
DoctorFeelGood657 2 years ago
I AGREE BA SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cabin crews get paid like 35,000 pounds a year twice as much as virgin atlantic and they still have the cheek to go on a strike all because of them my trip to see my parents at london is ruined someone ought to shoot the heads of those union leaders LET"S BOYCOTT BA TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!
icefrozenman 2 years ago
BA SUCKS, never fly with them again, and BA STAFF MUST REALIZE the recession is not over yet, get real guys
izzymohh 2 years ago
as i see it b.a staff are having their terms and conditions changed without consultation,jobs are being cut and there is no trust in management.the comparisons with postal workers here is frightening.POSTAL WORKERS SUPPORT B.A STAFF.
09876543217028 2 years ago
As I see it BA has not made any money for ages and like other compnies are making cuts to keep going. Why the hell is BA different to others? They got some right to stay a float while all others are making cuts?
I should come into the real world for a min and see what has happened to others. They should think themselves lucky most still have a job.
pallett316 2 years ago
The cabin crew aren't going to line their pockets with my money.
... Easyjet are half the price and twice as reliable.
Bye bye BA
maxfm83 2 years ago
R.I.P BA
Unions killed the airways. When BA has gone tits uo where they cabin crew going to get jobs? Better paid than the others airlines so well done.
pallett316 2 years ago