So sad & sick that such an very old & horrorible LIE like the Caste system can be left in tact. The Dalits are more "human" than the others if you were to compare all without their precious money & education & SIMPLY being born "lucky". How could any group think that God will approve of this?
GREAT SONG!!!... thanks Caedmon's Call & agincourt21!!!
eh realmente esse exemplo deveria ser para todos pq eu vivo na alemanha e aqui tb existe miseraveis mais com oseu orgulho de ser alemao isso eh muito desumano e quando vimos cenas assim ai eh q vemos q o ser humano nao deveria ter tanto orgulho e ser sim solidario
Prejudice and discrimination is something people weak of mind, God has made his image and likeness, nobody is better than anyone, when we die we all viraremos a lot of rotten meat that serves food for the animals, then we will be little concientizar and u more human and compassionate words of the next. At least here in Brazil and throughout West tries to do its part.
I do not understand why talk so much in Christianity, the issue here is the Dalits who suffer discrimination in India. There is much prejudice in the Western Indian, felis in the west (at least here in Brazil), there is no discrimination by religion, race, social class. There are humanitarian and are always ready to help the next. Here the poor are rich compared to those of India, would be false to say that everything here is great because it is not here there are people in situations of bad
Do any of you that are arguing religion and politics realize why this song and the album it's on were written? The meaning here transcends all racial, religious, and political ties.
Yes, this doesn't change the fact that the African religion shaped modern day Pentecostal type religions. Where do you think the idea of being "Possessed by the holy ghost" came from?
There are starving people everywhere in India, it's a poor country. The ideal life for a holy man is to live poor. Ideally a Brahmin is suposed to live a poor life.
There are countless saints from Sudra or lower caste. Some under the guise of a Guru became a Brahmin.
As far as I know, no part of Barack Obama has slave in his blood. Just because he is black doesn't mean he has a history of slavery. His biological father was from Kenya. His mother is European American descent.
I'm assuming you are "white". So am I. Well, we really are colored too. Just a different color. Like a very light brown/pinkish/yellow.
the cast system is evil... none of us are superior or inferior to another... all lives are deemed precious by the L-rd our G-d! Remember... what we do to another, we do to Yeshua HaMashiach(Jesus our Messiah)... so may we remember Him in all situations!
I disagree, 666greetings. Anus has a good function for the body, but the caste system is unnecessary for humanity. I believe the caste system of India (and other countries) is more like an infected appendix that dangers the whole body of humanity.
It's easy to say that "those people" have it so screwed up, however the same root discrimination and evil is in America. It's just better hidden. But if you look at the poverty statistics in the States, you see that the minorities are the Dalits here
Every civilization must have it's underdogs; it's slave strata. I don't know of any civilization--past or present--that doesn't have its slaves and underdogs. One way to cripple, undermine or destroy a society, or a country, is to awaken the underdogs to the the state of their under-doggery. To incite a discontent in them.
a very thought provoking video...the social structure in India needs big time changes, but it has nothing to do with the hindu religion...that's the main problem...those who live in India don't take these issues seriously and those take them seriously are the ones who are misinformed about why things are the way they are in India...hence, nothing changes...
The only way the Dalit can be free and strong is for them to reject all forms of hindu doctrine which has left them resigned to their "karmic" fate as untouchables since the dawn of India.
Education in self worth is infinitely more valuable than any food or health aid anyone could give but it's a great start.
UISBlog my intention was never to be confrontational. No. I see the reason behind seeba's anger. All I am saying is that this video is not about that. guys lets just avoid name calling...may be another place another time...we all could have been friends and friends do have a right to be mad at each other.
And agincourt21...there is no nobler cause than than the service of humanity...thank you for that. But please do remember this...India cannot be measured in terms of few slums or few incidents of discrimination. Chak de India!!
U never got discriminated yourself in urban India. Yet believe discrimination exists 4 Christian & Dalits in rural areas u never lived in? So aren't just assuming here. Truth is discrimination exist anywhere in world. A Hindu or even Brahmins can go thourgh discrimination in India too?
Stop Kissing up to your masters. I will state my opinion to anyone. Y should I flatter the ignorant like U? If other puts out misinformation or paint a bad picture of India, I will talk back.
Real Secularism has already been broken within India(Nehruism), with the help of the outside powers(Brits & Russians)
seeba, I apologize if I came out to be confrontational. And I am with you, if the system is broken lets rebuild it. And I never said discrimination doesn't exist against Hindus. I have seen some of my brightest friends who were brahmins not being able to get into engineering or medicine due to reservations. The system is not perfect, but I believe in it. I believe it can be fixed. I believe in a dream called India.
And seeba I do not understand who you are referring as my Masters. I come from a family that has served our Armed forces. I was 16 when I lost my father, till this day my mom doesn't think his life was lost in vain. Jai Hind!
Another cruel and inhuman method which the `holy` Hindu texts prescribe for torturing Sudras is the cutting off of their tongues for speaking out against the Aryan and, later, the Brahmanic tyranny. -
Dharmasastras R authoritative Hindu canon? then I can say that John Chrysostom or Martin Luther(& others)writing R authoritative. Read anti-jewish thoughts. Hitler viewed these churchmen as role models(no wonder there was strong Christian support during holocaust).
Read Voyage of St. Brendan, 4th-century biography of St. Anthony or 7th-century biography of clergy in Merida. black ppl are seen as ugly, demonic, devil skin color & servants of hell. Are all these Christian texts too?
Brahmins weren't powerful, wealthy before British.They worked under politicians & mercantile castes(most of them).Wealthy castes wouldn't want any new Brahmin competition either.
& history of Sudras, U know at 1 time the Sudra were powerful kings & had Kingdoms. Vedas & Mahabharata talks about this. 4 whatever reason they lost power & Status through time.
The relationship between brahmins & Sudra kings were unfriendly(even Ambedkar says it). Could be reason for brahmin hate
It's simply not "hate." It's racism and castism deep rooted within Hinduism and you can't deny it. If a higher caste Hindu is touched by an untouchable or even had a Dalit's shadow across them, they consider themselves to be polluted and have to go through a rigorous series of rituals to be cleansed.
Racism? proof? what racism in Hinduism? U know castism is class discrimination not racism.
It alright to U say India has racism(just like many parts of the world), but to bring religion as whole is ignorance.
Not all higher castes played ritual purity, even in past. A few Brahmins Communities practiced rigorous ritual purity. Some even Catered Worshiping Dalits, so couldnt practice ritual purity. Don't forget Muslims & Christians played with ritual purity too
Racism proof U C from naked, hungry, poor dalits? U don't make any sense?
There R Poor hungry Muslims
There R poor hungry Sikhs
There R poor hungry Christians
There R pooR Hungry Buddhists
There R poor Hungry Jains
U can even find poor Hungry brahmins in India
Whos Racism is all this then, Europeans?
U R most ignorant person I ever meet, U don't nothing about indian history, indian religions or culture. If you no idea, then better not saying much. Until U get educated
The Men, women and children in my video were of many faiths, most of the children were infact Muslim, from a muslim slum. Though India is mostly Hindu there are other religions there, this is not a religious argument, it is an argument for freedom and humanity.
Did you not understand the line "God made EVERY man forward and free" Yes, the song is reaching out specifically to Dalits, but it speaks of a freedom greater than politics that is for every human created in the image of God. Freedom that you can have as well. :)
The Aryan Brahmins imposed the most inhuman systems of repression upon the non-Brahmins which involved the most perverse and inhuman acts of torture imaginable. The heinous forms of murder included the pouring of boiling oil into the ears of Sudras -
Brahmins imposed what? There's no evidence for the practice of law from Dharmasastra in India, before British. All castes had their own panchayats & their own rules to follow. There was numerous inscriptions from past that record a variety of legal transactions of many kinds & regions.
Lets not forget Brahmin in past were not all powerful, they had to serve the two more powerful castes. That being the Kings & politicians + mercantile castes.
Hinduism is all about hate and hypocrisy. Notice, people of lower castes and women are still harassed in India. Hindus worship dead kings from ancient India. Thus, Hindus worship false gods that cannot see, cannot think and cannot hear.
Back this up by the Vedas, back this up in the Gita, back this up in the Purana or Upanishads. Who are you to say who is a false god and who isn't. I think worshiping a zombie constitutes a false god. In Hindu religion woman are given special roles, followers of Durga and Kali are seen as the mother of all the Gods!
Christian countries like Armenia or Latin America have horrible women's rights. In USA, women & ppl of color got their full freedoms about 37 yrs ago. Where was universal Christianity before ppl took their rights into their own hands?
If Fanatic enthusiasm & possession is Holy Spirit. Then Holy Ghost must be present in every single Rock concert out there. Don't U worship dead man from Palestine? He want to be a king, but couldn't. Even Jews don't worship your Holy ghost or Christ.
Only jesus spent 3 days underground. Doing missionary work for Rebellious Satanic angels & sinful generation at time of Noah(1 peter 3:19-20).
Kali latecomer to Hinduism. originally Tamil goddesses named Kottravai that went popular in Bengal much later. Her Fierce, Vibrant & Independent nature R simply ideals of Tamil Culture. I realizes that U find that + dark non-Europeans looks as Satanic
4 U worship Jesus(god)as an European. So worship a dead zombie who feeds followers his flesh & blood
You don't have to believe me. Go to India and talk to Dalits in the streets, and they'll tell you how higher caste Hindus discriminate against them due to their religion. Millions of dalits say the same thing -- they all can't be liars, can they? The fact is you are a snake-worshipper. Your millions of gods are hand-made. Your religion is based on hate and racism.
I don't believe many things U say. What U write shows your ignorance on most matters. U say Hindus discriminate Dalits due to their religion? & What mysterious Dalit religion R U implyin?
U say Hinduism is based on racism, I hope U know what racism means. If so use scriptures 4 proof.
I grew up in India & had Dalit for neighbor, so have 1st-hand experience. Most of things U R claiming is just 2nd-hand Propaganda, Unless U have spoken to many of dalits(which U havn't)
I am an Indian and am a Christian. Which part of India did you grow up and had a Dalit for a neighbour. Did I suffer growing up in cities like Bombay and Calcutta - No. But does discrimation exist - Yes. No one openly discriminates against Dalits and Christians seeba. But it still happens in much of rural India. But Mera Bharat Mahaan, India was secular and will always be secular. That is my India - no matter how many forces try to break it, both outside and within.
As 4 stereotyping all hindus into 1 Category, if U can do it, so can I.
Don't Christians roll around on the floor after gettin Possessed. Speak in Gibberish(I mean in tongues). Practice drinking poison, handle snakes & love getting bitten(Mark 16:17-18). Don't U worship Mary, angels, dead saints & grave sites. old bones of saints R touched, worshiped & adorned with jewelery. Don't they make millions of idols & images of these things, plus Jesus, Ghost & God.
Stop this "Holier than thou" Act. If there's poor Christians in the US. Shouldn't American Christians get them out of poverty 1st. If U can't take care of your backyard, then what's point trying to save rest of the world?
Lets face it, most Christians(but not all)go to India greedy 4 new converts 1st & foremost
Most in India don't think there R POOR in USA. Most stereotype USA as very wealthy & powerful nation. Because of all the Consumerism & Globalizing that US puts out to the world
There is truth to what you say about some Christian groups seeking to have a number of converts to boast about. Sadly many of that faith have given that impression. There are poor in every country, and yes even in America. However our poorest are rich compared to the poor in India. Humanity is not reserved for one nation, no humanity is world wide and knows no nationality.
To says that individual Indian Hindus(rich to poor) don't try to help the needy in the west. Is pure arrogance.
Who says Indians don't give charity? Those in India that R not ignorant of life in USA, may try to help like anyone else. Where's the proof that they wouldn't? 4 example Type & search: Amma Fox News segment on youtube.
Or is this a number game to U? Do U like to show off that there R more Christians doing missionary work in India?
I believe this came from the African Traditions, when the slaves where brought to America, they assimilated to Christianity, and this is prolly where "holyghoast possession" started.
One of the beuatiful perks of going to Temples is often time you are served Prasadam(Blessed food) Since ALL temples in the US are open to anyone and everyone, Christians can get fed a wonderful vegetarian meal.
Also the Hari Krishnas are known for distributing poor to the needy.
The Muslims and British modified the caste system hoping to enforce their ideology which is to divide and conquer India and eventually destroy Hinduism
The Caste System or varna-ashrama has been one of the most misrepresented, misinformed, misunderstood, misused and the most maligned aspects of Hinduism
Source:Search Hinduwisdom on google the website is the first search result.
Nothing about the caste system is misunderstood. The basic principle is that people are divided into different castes, and marriage outside a caste is disallowed. Is it not?
Radian1991 is correct,its been misinformed. There's fishermen becoming priests, ect. Individually it was possible to move around,the Hindu scriptures give proofs.
No single term for Caste-system in India, rather different terms that don't have anything to do with each-other.
I have seen this and some more videos about dalits on youtube. These videos put question mark on existence of God. If God exists why he never came to make life better?
Either God doesn't exists or he also belongs to our enemies.
Christians in India discriminate Dalits, this is well known fact. Uppercaste Christians treat Dalits just as bad. In many ways its worse, because Dalits come into Christianity looking for freedom, but get more discrimination. Ambedkar knew this would happen(because Islam & Christianity supports slavery), which is why he told Dalits to support Buddhism & Secularism(Only if Dalits listened to him). But I guess Western Money is to hard to turn away for some people.
Sadly this is often the case. It is really sad that the Christians are treating the Dalits(and/or anyone else) this way. Don't get me wrong. I'm not condemning the Christians in India, afterall I'm a Christian too. However, not all the Christians in India treat the Dalits this way. (Yay!)
Hindus R 82% & Christians R 3%. But Dalits & lower castes make 65-70% christians everywhere in India(the expectation being in Goa, Kerala & north-east). Inside the church Dalits face discrimination & segregation(No different from the plight of Afro-American churches in USA).
This is embarrassing old news if you live in India. The very tiny Brahmin converts R loved like royalty, but majority Dalits R treated like valueless ppl. Also Wealth & foreign aid get in the hands of upper minority.
Not only was boiling oil poured down the ears of independant Sudras, in certain other cases molten metal was used instead. Thus, the Brahman law-giver Gautama prescribes the following savage punishment for Sudras who listened to recitations of the Aryan Vedas -
Gautama a law-giver(false). Dharmasastras as Hindu law books is incorrect, cause they R mostly Hindu Polemics(not legal books). Dharma in English is not "LAW," its more closer to "Religion." When U hear someone say Sanatana-Dharma, they R not referring to any legal-system.
& not all of the Dharmasastras R so harsh on Sudras. some don't talk about caste much, while others talk of natural upward & downward movements inside castes. This shows the independent opinions of the authors themselves
proof for this one? U know that Sudras R not Dalits, they not the same.
untouchablity's recent phenomena in Indian History that come about during the Gupta-period(400 A.D).
There was cruel treatment done to Dalit by other Hindu castes in the past, this can't be excused. But Europeans did to Dalits & lower castes should also not forgotten either,(abuse,torture & bonded slavery).
U want proof, go to Caribbean, Guyana, Africa, Fiji & Malaysia. U will C there descendants.
Eurpeans converted dalits to Christanity. The Hindus left dalits to die in the streets, so Christians clothed them and gave them food, and gave them a new religion.
U point others splinter, but ignore wooden beam in Christian history. U ignore good, like Eknath, Ramdas, Narsi Mehta, Gadge Maharaj, Tukaram... Some even gave up brahminhood & suffered for plight of poor lower castes. Bad deeds of Christians & Europeans toward dalits U ignore.
Truth is Christians aren't saints, just as Hindus arent sinners. Hindus never used Scriptures to sight reason for wrong-doings, Dalits R not mentioned before Gupta-period(400 A.D).
I don't worship European rule. mass poverty & famines was European legacy. Famines continued til independence,1947. while brits got wealthy exporting staples to Uk.
Victors try cover their wrongs, but evidence speaks 4 itself. Ancestors of Indian coolies found in Caribbeans, Fiji & Mauritius. Lower castes & dalits no-doubt! What did Dalits face in the hands of Europeans: Trickery, kidnap, abuse, rape, exploitation, unfairness,slavery.
hiding when it gets too hot to handle your Christian baggage?
R U brain-dead? I said Dr.Ambedkar wanted dailts to support Buddhism. Some R maybe beginning to listen to his long overdue advice. He knew dalits suffered under Europeans & Christianity was dead-end.
money is root of all evil. Europeans baited Dalits into Bonded labour & Christianity with Trickery + financial incentives. Europeans did this to support their powerful institutions. Dalits got was unfairness & discrimination.
Many preachers in the West teach Prosperity Theology(Promising God will provide money to believers). If they use this in West, Y would they not when converting Dalits? Like many Western televangelist Scandal, Charlatanism & manipulation in charged atmosphere. Same happen when missionaries go to India.
+ Christians discriminate dalits, not all dalits leave Hinduism, & some R even beginning to leave Christianity. Fastest growing religion for Dalits is not Hindu or Christian, its Buddhism.
Also to mention Gandhi was no hero, he had absolutely no problem with Racism, didn't like black people, and foolishly gave the Pakistan to the Muslims when it should have been Khalistan! Gandhi is made a hero, by the Indian Government that you oppose so much!
Your funny, you can believe in a man that was born from a virgin mother, used magic to heal people, died on the cross, and rose from the dead 3 days latter. You can believe this despite that almost all cultures have had this same story, despite their being no proof of his existance. Yet another persons beliefs you mock.
P.S. I still believe in Jaysus, just not in the sense that you do. Of course he was a man of god he just was not god
My apologies, I didn't mean to ridicule you. At the age of 15 I was living in Kuwait, and when I first heard about Jesus rising from the dead, I was laughing out loud. In fact, I was ready to punch the missionary right in the face. I hung out with thugs and roamed the streets after school. Miraculously, I accepted Christ one year later. It's a long story.
You don't have to believe that Jesus was raised from the dead, or He walked on water. Just speak to new Christians like me, and you'll hear living testimonies. By the grace of the Lord, I'm a better person and finishing up medical school. Surely, Jesus changed my life. And he can change yours too! All you have to do is ask.
I have a belief in a loving higher power, that is much bigger than religion. What this conception did for me, religion could not do. I have been sober for over 4 years, I have a job and a car, and I pay rent. Before I was just some looser bum, waiting to die. Please remember that their are unhappy christians, as well as happy and content people from other religions. My belief is all lead to one. A book and a mind is too great for god
Christians believe the trinity, so that makes them polytheistic. It would be better just to be Jewish, Muslim or even Sikh, IF U want pray to only one GOD. Face it Christians worship a dead Jewish man from Palestine.
And Jesus is not the only Son of God in the bible(Genesis 6:2),anyone can be Son of God(John 10:34-37)& Son of God Melchizedek didnt have a mother or father(Hebrews 7:3).
If Melchizedek came in a vision, & told me to follow him(like Jesus did for Saul in Acts 9), shouldnt I
Only Matthew 1:18-23 talks about so-called Virgin birth. No other Gospels talk about this detail. Not even Luke 1:34-36 can be seen authentically saying it(because it can be interrupted many different ways).
Virgin is fake. Matthew uses Isaiah 7:14 as inspiration of mary's virgin-birth, but the Hebrew word in the bible in almah(young-woman) not virgin(betulah). Matthew must had bad greek bible translation, so he made mistakes. Then that mistake later became mainstream Christianity.
+Luke 19:30-37 & Mark 11:2-8 reads Zechariah 9:9 correctly, Matthew 21, makes Jesus not ride one but two donkeys sametime comically.
+Bible can't agree when Jesus died. John makes Jesus die on Thursday on Passover. While the 3 older gospel make it Friday after Passover.
+Messiah was suppose to come from male descendant of David, but virgin-birth cancels need of father. Some reason both Matthew 1:1-17 & Luke 3:23-38 has a Genealogy of Joseph to Jesus. But 2 Genealogy don't agree.
Can Melchizedek raise the dead, cure lepers, give sight to the blind, and die for his people? Nope. He cannot be the Son of God. Melchizedek is only a priest of God, nothing more.
Mary, bloodline of King David? There is no proof. Some desperate ppl use Luke 3:23-38 as Genealogy of Mary. But that's a lie, its really a Genealogy of Joseph, that contradicts Matthew's Joseph Genealogy.
And Angels are Sons of God(Genesis 6:2), & normal ppl can also become Sons of God(john 10: 34-35), if the Word of god remains inside them(1 John 2:14)
The Indian caste system is horrible, but it's not limited to religion (Hinduism) nor should this be a crusade against Hinduism. Hinduism is a beautiful religion, and yes many Hindus are very much opposed to the system. Some are even activist.
U want Hindu girl from India(but got refused), so this your great proof of Hindu caste-system? If so, go over to Israel & try marry an orthodox Jewish girl. Or Muslim Arab from Saudi-Arabia or an Amish girl from Pennsylvania. When you get turn down (& your ego is in ruins). Then U can conclude that there's caste-systems for ppl too.
& tell yourself, it has nothing at all to do with the conservative nature of these cultures.
Try convincing a Brahmin Hindu girl to marry a Vaishyas guy - and see the response. Of course a Jew cannot marry a Muslim. Hindus are not permitted to marry outside their castes. It's a simple fact and you cannot disprove it by twisting your words.
Religious jews don't marry Christians. Many Jews say muslim R crazy, but respect monotheistic Islam than pagan Christianity. U worship a man as 1 true God, & believe he did human sacrifice 4 other ppl sins.
In India, almost all the castes discouraged inter-caste marriages. Many castes didn't want their daughters marrying brahmins in past + even today. Like Kshatriya Rajputs. Indias conservative, dating & premarital pregnancy is still taboos. Parents play important roles.
inter-caste marriage does take place, even if rare. Dr. Ambedkar was dalit & his 2nd wife was a Brahmin. But in a country were arrange marriage is the norm. Ppl will be picky about who they marry their children to.
They choose others similar to themselves, so marriage partners have strong back-born of support. This goes 4 Christian, Mulism, sikh, jain all others who practice arrange marriage in india. Also 4 orthodox jews, ppl in middle-east, africa who practice arrange marriage.
all was well with this video but the end seem to summarise why this evil system still exists. with people like gandhi who appeased this system being branded as the reformers has taken the fight against caste into some kind of a warp. ambedkar and periyar offered the real solution to end this mindless and inhuman bigotry and thats how this struggle starts and ends.
What a beautiful, sad video. I assume this is you in all the pictures. It is my dream to go to India and do something, anything for the Dalit people...
This is the legacy of religious fanaticism that sacrifices reason on the altar of idiocy. The Hindu and Indian people who like to brag about their past greatness in history have only their shame, bigotry, and irrational beliefs with which to cloak themselves in an age when they should have evolved beyond an egregious ideology that has no scientific or even philosophically reasonable basis.
Sing from the village, sing from the town (Sub kooch ho sak-ee dey) Sing everyone who has been cast down (Sub kooch ho sak-ee dey) Emancipate, emancipate, Prime Minister, emancipate Emancipate, emancipate, Prime Minister, emancipate Sweeping, weaving, tilling the Earth (Sub kooch ho sak-ee dey) Show me the man to deny our worth (Sub kooch ho sak-ee dey) Free the Dalit, free the Dalit, Prime Minister, free the Dalit Free the Dalit, free the Dalit, Prime Minister, free the Dalit
a powerful video with a powerful song. often, caedmon's has been a source of great blessing, encouragement, and challenge for growth in my life as a believer. it is a blessing to see that God empowers such people with such a heart.
may the gospel of Jesus Christ continue to empower you, grow you, and charge you in such ministry.
I don't think so. Jesus never mentioned anything about casteism in the New Testament. In fact, according to your book, if a dalit listens to Hindu Holy Scriptures, the dalit shall be punished by having molten glass poured down his ear. Another example: you wouldn't be surprised if Churches are burnt and nuns are raped in India. However, if a Hindu temple is burnt and a priest is beaten in the United States -- that would be a shock.
What Hindu "holy book" are you refering too? There is not just one universal text. Lets not forget to "sufer not a witch to death" Or if "your friend or family comes to you and tell you to worship other gods, to put them death" Slavery is ok in the bible. Don't pretend like the Old Testament doesn't exist, or that Paul's sexism doesn't exist either.
The Old Testament represents the old covenant with God. With the coming of Jesus, a New Covenant was formed with Christ's blood. Jesus raised the dead, gave sight to the blind, hearing to the deaf and made the lame walk. He said, "Love thy neighbor as thyself." He had a friendship circle consisting of Kings, governors, lawyers, lepers, prostitutes, murderers, thieves, etc. Surely, he considered all people equal. Open your eyes so you can see my friend.
The book is Manusmriti. Jesus never mentioned anything supporting slavery. Paul said those things because of the culture of that time, not because of religion. Today, women enjoy maximum freedom only in Christian countries.
I never said anything about me being a Hindu, go look at your history before you start point out the spec in the Hindus eyes. I also wouldn't be surprised if a Hindu Temple, a Gurduwar, or a mosque get destroyed in India as well.
You seem to be frustrated with life. You are you dragging Gandhi, Khalistan, Pakistan, slavery in between? Do you think any other savior would be tortured, shamed, spat on, and hung naked on the cross for the sake of his people?
I am not frustrated at life, I am frustrated at religion saying this religion is the only way, and all others are false.
Just about all saviors of religion have had suffered. Christianity is no more than Jewish interpertation of religions much older. Jesus to me is the sUn of Man
The bible has castes, what do you think the tribes of Israel are, and Levi & Cohen where its Priestly community. The Jews, OT, and NT all respect this Jewish caste-system. Arabs, Kurds, and Afghans have their castes too, so there is nothing special about India.
Hindu temples are atacked in USA(even in Canada), Its rare because there are laws that would punish these acts. But when it does happen, the American media keeps quiet about it. So stop ACTING "Holier than thou."
There is no Hindu Scriptures saying: "dalit shall be punished by having molten glass..." Hindu Scriptures don't even mention dalits, so stop making things up.
Manusmriti don't even mention the word Dalit. And Dalits don't belong to the caste-system. Dalits aren't even the same thing as slaves. If you no idea what you are talking about, then better not saying anything at all.
If you follow Jesus then OT should be very important. Jesus said he came to uphold the torah & prophets, not ignore or destroy them(Matt 5: 17-20). Paul lied about Torah losing its important after Christ.
Did Noah's Covenant lose importances after Avraham's Convent? Did Avraham's after Moses, or after prophets? Jews view them all as important. Why Jesus takes away from Moses? Why don't Christians celebrate passover, Lastsupper was Passover?
Jesus wouldn't heal Canaanite in(matt 15: 21), until she begged & humiliate her nationality. Jesus even calls gentiles DOGS. He only came to help the jews(not gentiles).
Jesus didnt speak of Slavery, but was torah supporter, so likely he supports slavery. Also Jesus had no problem of beating misbehaving servants(Luke 12: 47-48), or killing disobedient children(Mark 7:10). Peter, Titus, Timothy, and Paul all OK Slavery(long as you treat them well). Christians, Slavery is OK.
Yes, JESUS is indeed the only way. You can accept this fact now (the easy way) or learn about it after you die (the hard way). You should read the story of Sunder Singh - a Hindu priest who became Christian after JESUS paid him a visit.
How can Jesus be the only way, he entered this world little over 2000 years ago, religion has been around millions of years before hand. Either god is so simple that he can be understood by a human hand(bible) or he is really unmerciful to damn billions of people who believe otherwise
Sunder Singh a Hindu priest? are you for real! And what a bad example too.
He was Sikh not brought up as a devout Sikh, but a religious Pluralist. His mother took him to ascetic Hindu monks(against Sikhism), read vedas + koran & also sent him to a Christian mission school. After she died he became Depressed.
Even when he became a follower of jesus after, he was still an universalist. He believed all people(non-christians too)would eventually gain salvation.
"Sadhu" means Hindu priest. Sikhs never use the word Sadhu, instead use the term "Guru." Second, Sunder Singh preached Christanity, nothing else. Sure, he was researching other religions, but he found the True religion - Christanity!
Who died & made you expert on Hinduism?was it Jesus,cause your understanding's poor at best. Ppl who renounce marriage, wealth & luxuries R Monks, & that's what Sadhus R.
Hindu Words for Monks R: Sadhus, Sanyasi & Yogis. Words for PRIESTS R: Brahmins, hotars, atharvan, udgātr & bahvrcas.
The term Guru just is an Universal Indian word for Teacher(like Hebrew word,Rabbi).In India you can even call your Math Teacher, a Math Guru.
Sikhs don't believe in Monkhood(Sadhus) & Priesthood(Brahmins). Y didn't Sunder's mother take him to local Gurdwara to learn his religion. But rather went 1000s of mile away to isolated Hindu Ashrams(hermitages).
I think she's Hindu women married to Sikh man. & She wanted her youngest to be Hindu the only way she knew how, & after her early death he became lost & then joined Christianity.
Sunder said all people R saved. God doesn't run out, but creation will finally return to Creator.
its just niggas notice only black are considered slaves since aryan rule or pale skin domination
a5yquis 3 months ago
sub kuch ho sakdey means- all things are possible....
m from india..and i agree india really needs alot of prayer...
cliffkant 4 months ago
@cliffkant Thanks for that! That makes the song just that much more moving.
I'm becoming a missionary and my wife and I are trying to find a place to minister to. I'm really burdened for India.
teamvictorairsoft 3 months ago
What does Sub kuch ho sakdey mean?!
Amazing song. God Bless.
teamvictorairsoft 5 months ago
So sad & sick that such an very old & horrorible LIE like the Caste system can be left in tact. The Dalits are more "human" than the others if you were to compare all without their precious money & education & SIMPLY being born "lucky". How could any group think that God will approve of this?
GREAT SONG!!!... thanks Caedmon's Call & agincourt21!!!
GoodyBob 1 year ago 3
This is so sad :-(
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LOWYOUONE123 1 year ago
This is so sad :-(
LOWYOUONE123 1 year ago
eh realmente esse exemplo deveria ser para todos pq eu vivo na alemanha e aqui tb existe miseraveis mais com oseu orgulho de ser alemao isso eh muito desumano e quando vimos cenas assim ai eh q vemos q o ser humano nao deveria ter tanto orgulho e ser sim solidario
anaravi1 2 years ago
✱ ✰ ✯ WoW ✯ ✰ ✱
♥ COOL SOUND ♥
♥ God Bless You ♥
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Gitarrencheck09 2 years ago
Actual color of India.
fha3569 2 years ago
Isso é um video americano, respondam em inglês
bando de fdp chupem meu pau
pivetom 2 years ago
@pivetom Não há necessidade de uma linguagem vil. Todo mundo está convidado a comentar sobre este vídeo em sua língua nativa.
childofthegreatIAM 1 year ago
lindo !
esse exemplo deveria ser seguido poor todos.
kellyfernaanda 2 years ago
que coisa linda o trabalho dessas pessoas que ajudam as pessoas necessitadas!!
papito1711 2 years ago
Dalits também seres humanos ainda bem que aqui no Brasil e diferente
debynhapatricinhadf 2 years ago
" Patricinha ... " aonde que no Brasil é diferente ? Aonde voce mora ? Lago Sul ? Ou dentro de um bolha ?
sricardo27 2 years ago
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Prejudice and discrimination is something people weak of mind, God has made his image and likeness, nobody is better than anyone, when we die we all viraremos a lot of rotten meat that serves food for the animals, then we will be little concientizar and u more human and compassionate words of the next. At least here in Brazil and throughout West tries to do its part.
gisou83nionest 2 years ago
I love the world
The planet earth is beautiful ... people are beautiful .....
I am happy and blessed to be here ...
God bless all the Dalits and the entire India
gisou83nionest 2 years ago 2
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gisou83nionest 2 years ago
I do not understand why talk so much in Christianity, the issue here is the Dalits who suffer discrimination in India. There is much prejudice in the Western Indian, felis in the west (at least here in Brazil), there is no discrimination by religion, race, social class. There are humanitarian and are always ready to help the next. Here the poor are rich compared to those of India, would be false to say that everything here is great because it is not here there are people in situations of bad
gisou83nionest 2 years ago
These guys need their own homeland.
ptiwari2000 2 years ago
good...........
adhanter 2 years ago
Brazil LOVE Dalits....
nilicry 2 years ago
I don't know why but I like this song...
Lozpwned 2 years ago
Do any of you that are arguing religion and politics realize why this song and the album it's on were written? The meaning here transcends all racial, religious, and political ties.
xjrecon95 3 years ago
as india indutrializes, the cast system will destroy india.
Nnfefe 3 years ago 2
Yes, this doesn't change the fact that the African religion shaped modern day Pentecostal type religions. Where do you think the idea of being "Possessed by the holy ghost" came from?
There are starving people everywhere in India, it's a poor country. The ideal life for a holy man is to live poor. Ideally a Brahmin is suposed to live a poor life.
There are countless saints from Sudra or lower caste. Some under the guise of a Guru became a Brahmin.
sicpit 3 years ago
As far as I know, no part of Barack Obama has slave in his blood. Just because he is black doesn't mean he has a history of slavery. His biological father was from Kenya. His mother is European American descent.
I'm assuming you are "white". So am I. Well, we really are colored too. Just a different color. Like a very light brown/pinkish/yellow.
adamcj5 3 years ago
Anybody, or any race for that matter that thinks they are ultimatly superior is just kidding themselfs.
And poverty is always a shame, but not as shameful as WEAK men driven to rape women.
realistromeo 3 years ago
the cast system is evil... none of us are superior or inferior to another... all lives are deemed precious by the L-rd our G-d! Remember... what we do to another, we do to Yeshua HaMashiach(Jesus our Messiah)... so may we remember Him in all situations!
batzion07 3 years ago
Jesus wants the rich to help the poor,but give a tract to the poor in a sandwich
bibliosca 3 years ago
humanity has an anus and its called the Indian caste system
666greetings 3 years ago
I disagree, 666greetings. Anus has a good function for the body, but the caste system is unnecessary for humanity. I believe the caste system of India (and other countries) is more like an infected appendix that dangers the whole body of humanity.
It's easy to say that "those people" have it so screwed up, however the same root discrimination and evil is in America. It's just better hidden. But if you look at the poverty statistics in the States, you see that the minorities are the Dalits here
adamcj5 3 years ago
Every civilization must have it's underdogs; it's slave strata. I don't know of any civilization--past or present--that doesn't have its slaves and underdogs. One way to cripple, undermine or destroy a society, or a country, is to awaken the underdogs to the the state of their under-doggery. To incite a discontent in them.
saffronix 3 years ago
a very thought provoking video...the social structure in India needs big time changes, but it has nothing to do with the hindu religion...that's the main problem...those who live in India don't take these issues seriously and those take them seriously are the ones who are misinformed about why things are the way they are in India...hence, nothing changes...
karan2100 4 years ago 4
The only way the Dalit can be free and strong is for them to reject all forms of hindu doctrine which has left them resigned to their "karmic" fate as untouchables since the dawn of India.
Education in self worth is infinitely more valuable than any food or health aid anyone could give but it's a great start.
voltronforce5000 4 years ago 7
Great job!
CascadeRick 4 years ago
UISBlog my intention was never to be confrontational. No. I see the reason behind seeba's anger. All I am saying is that this video is not about that. guys lets just avoid name calling...may be another place another time...we all could have been friends and friends do have a right to be mad at each other.
pssbps 4 years ago
And agincourt21...there is no nobler cause than than the service of humanity...thank you for that. But please do remember this...India cannot be measured in terms of few slums or few incidents of discrimination. Chak de India!!
pssbps 4 years ago
Grow up seeba- this video is about humanity and cuts across religions, not about religions.
And DrGladwin - what do you know about Hinduism that you call them cow and snake worshippers - grow up and stop behaving like a teenager.
pssbps 4 years ago
U never got discriminated yourself in urban India. Yet believe discrimination exists 4 Christian & Dalits in rural areas u never lived in? So aren't just assuming here. Truth is discrimination exist anywhere in world. A Hindu or even Brahmins can go thourgh discrimination in India too?
seeba 4 years ago
Stop Kissing up to your masters. I will state my opinion to anyone. Y should I flatter the ignorant like U? If other puts out misinformation or paint a bad picture of India, I will talk back.
Real Secularism has already been broken within India(Nehruism), with the help of the outside powers(Brits & Russians)
seeba 4 years ago
seeba, I apologize if I came out to be confrontational. And I am with you, if the system is broken lets rebuild it. And I never said discrimination doesn't exist against Hindus. I have seen some of my brightest friends who were brahmins not being able to get into engineering or medicine due to reservations. The system is not perfect, but I believe in it. I believe it can be fixed. I believe in a dream called India.
pssbps 4 years ago
And seeba I do not understand who you are referring as my Masters. I come from a family that has served our Armed forces. I was 16 when I lost my father, till this day my mom doesn't think his life was lost in vain. Jai Hind!
pssbps 4 years ago
No seeba that wasn't an assumption, I have some relatives there...thats all I would want to say about that.
pssbps 4 years ago
Great video I ever seen in my life.I really appreciate those people who made this. We all should work together to stop this casterism.
Jai Shri Ram........
navnit77 4 years ago
Another cruel and inhuman method which the `holy` Hindu texts prescribe for torturing Sudras is the cutting off of their tongues for speaking out against the Aryan and, later, the Brahmanic tyranny. -
Manu Smrti VIII.270
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Dharmasastras R authoritative Hindu canon? then I can say that John Chrysostom or Martin Luther(& others)writing R authoritative. Read anti-jewish thoughts. Hitler viewed these churchmen as role models(no wonder there was strong Christian support during holocaust).
Read Voyage of St. Brendan, 4th-century biography of St. Anthony or 7th-century biography of clergy in Merida. black ppl are seen as ugly, demonic, devil skin color & servants of hell. Are all these Christian texts too?
seeba 4 years ago
Brahmins weren't powerful, wealthy before British.They worked under politicians & mercantile castes(most of them).Wealthy castes wouldn't want any new Brahmin competition either.
& history of Sudras, U know at 1 time the Sudra were powerful kings & had Kingdoms. Vedas & Mahabharata talks about this. 4 whatever reason they lost power & Status through time.
The relationship between brahmins & Sudra kings were unfriendly(even Ambedkar says it). Could be reason for brahmin hate
seeba 4 years ago
It's simply not "hate." It's racism and castism deep rooted within Hinduism and you can't deny it. If a higher caste Hindu is touched by an untouchable or even had a Dalit's shadow across them, they consider themselves to be polluted and have to go through a rigorous series of rituals to be cleansed.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Racism? proof? what racism in Hinduism? U know castism is class discrimination not racism.
It alright to U say India has racism(just like many parts of the world), but to bring religion as whole is ignorance.
Not all higher castes played ritual purity, even in past. A few Brahmins Communities practiced rigorous ritual purity. Some even Catered Worshiping Dalits, so couldnt practice ritual purity. Don't forget Muslims & Christians played with ritual purity too
seeba 4 years ago
Proof is this video above. Can't you see naked, hungry, poor dalits?
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Racism proof U C from naked, hungry, poor dalits? U don't make any sense?
There R Poor hungry Muslims
There R poor hungry Sikhs
There R poor hungry Christians
There R pooR Hungry Buddhists
There R poor Hungry Jains
U can even find poor Hungry brahmins in India
Whos Racism is all this then, Europeans?
U R most ignorant person I ever meet, U don't nothing about indian history, indian religions or culture. If you no idea, then better not saying much. Until U get educated
seeba 4 years ago
The Men, women and children in my video were of many faiths, most of the children were infact Muslim, from a muslim slum. Though India is mostly Hindu there are other religions there, this is not a religious argument, it is an argument for freedom and humanity.
Agincourt21 4 years ago 5
@seeba
Did you not understand the line "God made EVERY man forward and free" Yes, the song is reaching out specifically to Dalits, but it speaks of a freedom greater than politics that is for every human created in the image of God. Freedom that you can have as well. :)
childofthegreatIAM 1 year ago
God loves the poor and needy and will punish those who oppress them.
That is why God's son was sent into this world,
That is why he died on a cross to take away sin.
Jesus loves you.
Patternpop 1 year ago 3
The Aryan Brahmins imposed the most inhuman systems of repression upon the non-Brahmins which involved the most perverse and inhuman acts of torture imaginable. The heinous forms of murder included the pouring of boiling oil into the ears of Sudras -
Manu Smrti VIII.272
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Brahmins imposed what? There's no evidence for the practice of law from Dharmasastra in India, before British. All castes had their own panchayats & their own rules to follow. There was numerous inscriptions from past that record a variety of legal transactions of many kinds & regions.
Lets not forget Brahmin in past were not all powerful, they had to serve the two more powerful castes. That being the Kings & politicians + mercantile castes.
seeba 4 years ago
Hinduism is all about hate and hypocrisy. Notice, people of lower castes and women are still harassed in India. Hindus worship dead kings from ancient India. Thus, Hindus worship false gods that cannot see, cannot think and cannot hear.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Back this up by the Vedas, back this up in the Gita, back this up in the Purana or Upanishads. Who are you to say who is a false god and who isn't. I think worshiping a zombie constitutes a false god. In Hindu religion woman are given special roles, followers of Durga and Kali are seen as the mother of all the Gods!
sicpit 4 years ago
Kali is a Satanic goddess that lives underground. She cannot raise the dead and give sight to the blind.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Christian countries like Armenia or Latin America have horrible women's rights. In USA, women & ppl of color got their full freedoms about 37 yrs ago. Where was universal Christianity before ppl took their rights into their own hands?
If Fanatic enthusiasm & possession is Holy Spirit. Then Holy Ghost must be present in every single Rock concert out there. Don't U worship dead man from Palestine? He want to be a king, but couldn't. Even Jews don't worship your Holy ghost or Christ.
seeba 4 years ago
Only jesus spent 3 days underground. Doing missionary work for Rebellious Satanic angels & sinful generation at time of Noah(1 peter 3:19-20).
Kali latecomer to Hinduism. originally Tamil goddesses named Kottravai that went popular in Bengal much later. Her Fierce, Vibrant & Independent nature R simply ideals of Tamil Culture. I realizes that U find that + dark non-Europeans looks as Satanic
4 U worship Jesus(god)as an European. So worship a dead zombie who feeds followers his flesh & blood
seeba 4 years ago
You don't have to believe me. Go to India and talk to Dalits in the streets, and they'll tell you how higher caste Hindus discriminate against them due to their religion. Millions of dalits say the same thing -- they all can't be liars, can they? The fact is you are a snake-worshipper. Your millions of gods are hand-made. Your religion is based on hate and racism.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
I don't believe many things U say. What U write shows your ignorance on most matters. U say Hindus discriminate Dalits due to their religion? & What mysterious Dalit religion R U implyin?
U say Hinduism is based on racism, I hope U know what racism means. If so use scriptures 4 proof.
I grew up in India & had Dalit for neighbor, so have 1st-hand experience. Most of things U R claiming is just 2nd-hand Propaganda, Unless U have spoken to many of dalits(which U havn't)
seeba 4 years ago
I am an Indian and am a Christian. Which part of India did you grow up and had a Dalit for a neighbour. Did I suffer growing up in cities like Bombay and Calcutta - No. But does discrimation exist - Yes. No one openly discriminates against Dalits and Christians seeba. But it still happens in much of rural India. But Mera Bharat Mahaan, India was secular and will always be secular. That is my India - no matter how many forces try to break it, both outside and within.
pssbps 4 years ago
Doesn't matter. Christians go to India to feed millions of hungry Dalits. Have Hindus from India ever come to the USA to feed poor hungry Christians?
DrGladwin 4 years ago
As 4 stereotyping all hindus into 1 Category, if U can do it, so can I.
Don't Christians roll around on the floor after gettin Possessed. Speak in Gibberish(I mean in tongues). Practice drinking poison, handle snakes & love getting bitten(Mark 16:17-18). Don't U worship Mary, angels, dead saints & grave sites. old bones of saints R touched, worshiped & adorned with jewelery. Don't they make millions of idols & images of these things, plus Jesus, Ghost & God.
seeba 4 years ago
Stop this "Holier than thou" Act. If there's poor Christians in the US. Shouldn't American Christians get them out of poverty 1st. If U can't take care of your backyard, then what's point trying to save rest of the world?
Lets face it, most Christians(but not all)go to India greedy 4 new converts 1st & foremost
Most in India don't think there R POOR in USA. Most stereotype USA as very wealthy & powerful nation. Because of all the Consumerism & Globalizing that US puts out to the world
seeba 4 years ago
See? This is how a cow-worshipper talks. You haven't my primary question: Have Hindus from India ever come to the USA to feed poor hungry Christians?
DrGladwin 4 years ago
There is truth to what you say about some Christian groups seeking to have a number of converts to boast about. Sadly many of that faith have given that impression. There are poor in every country, and yes even in America. However our poorest are rich compared to the poor in India. Humanity is not reserved for one nation, no humanity is world wide and knows no nationality.
Agincourt21 4 years ago 6
But you said that "poor people" are everywhere in the world - including the USA. So why can't Rich Hindus come to feed poor Christians in the USA?
DrGladwin 4 years ago
To says that individual Indian Hindus(rich to poor) don't try to help the needy in the west. Is pure arrogance.
Who says Indians don't give charity? Those in India that R not ignorant of life in USA, may try to help like anyone else. Where's the proof that they wouldn't? 4 example Type & search: Amma Fox News segment on youtube.
Or is this a number game to U? Do U like to show off that there R more Christians doing missionary work in India?
seeba 4 years ago
I believe this came from the African Traditions, when the slaves where brought to America, they assimilated to Christianity, and this is prolly where "holyghoast possession" started.
sicpit 3 years ago
One of the beuatiful perks of going to Temples is often time you are served Prasadam(Blessed food) Since ALL temples in the US are open to anyone and everyone, Christians can get fed a wonderful vegetarian meal.
Also the Hari Krishnas are known for distributing poor to the needy.
sicpit 3 years ago
Dr.Gladwin = owneed
sicpit 4 years ago
Ofcourse I'm owned! Owned by JESUS CHRIST!
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Jesus = Krishna thousands of years before Christ was even a sperm in Jehovas nutts
sicpit 4 years ago
Did your peacock god teach you to talk like this? My JESUS taught me to love everyone and give them the Good News of JESUS and the Second Coming.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
The Muslims and British modified the caste system hoping to enforce their ideology which is to divide and conquer India and eventually destroy Hinduism
Radian1991 4 years ago
The Caste System or varna-ashrama has been one of the most misrepresented, misinformed, misunderstood, misused and the most maligned aspects of Hinduism
Source:Search Hinduwisdom on google the website is the first search result.
Radian1991 4 years ago 2
Nothing about the caste system is misunderstood. The basic principle is that people are divided into different castes, and marriage outside a caste is disallowed. Is it not?
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Radian1991 is correct,its been misinformed. There's fishermen becoming priests, ect. Individually it was possible to move around,the Hindu scriptures give proofs.
No single term for Caste-system in India, rather different terms that don't have anything to do with each-other.
Varna: means Division of Work/Class
Jati: means distant Communities/Cultures
Gotra: means family-lineage.
Westerners lump all of them together.
seeba 4 years ago
I have seen this and some more videos about dalits on youtube. These videos put question mark on existence of God. If God exists why he never came to make life better?
Either God doesn't exists or he also belongs to our enemies.
sukKhaji 4 years ago
Christians in India discriminate Dalits, this is well known fact. Uppercaste Christians treat Dalits just as bad. In many ways its worse, because Dalits come into Christianity looking for freedom, but get more discrimination. Ambedkar knew this would happen(because Islam & Christianity supports slavery), which is why he told Dalits to support Buddhism & Secularism(Only if Dalits listened to him). But I guess Western Money is to hard to turn away for some people.
seeba 4 years ago
Sadly this is often the case. It is really sad that the Christians are treating the Dalits(and/or anyone else) this way. Don't get me wrong. I'm not condemning the Christians in India, afterall I'm a Christian too. However, not all the Christians in India treat the Dalits this way. (Yay!)
Sarabethany 4 years ago 2
Christians only make 1% of India's population. Hindus make 70% of the total population. Obviously, more discrimination comes from the Hindus.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Hindus R 82% & Christians R 3%. But Dalits & lower castes make 65-70% christians everywhere in India(the expectation being in Goa, Kerala & north-east). Inside the church Dalits face discrimination & segregation(No different from the plight of Afro-American churches in USA).
This is embarrassing old news if you live in India. The very tiny Brahmin converts R loved like royalty, but majority Dalits R treated like valueless ppl. Also Wealth & foreign aid get in the hands of upper minority.
seeba 4 years ago
Not only was boiling oil poured down the ears of independant Sudras, in certain other cases molten metal was used instead. Thus, the Brahman law-giver Gautama prescribes the following savage punishment for Sudras who listened to recitations of the Aryan Vedas -
Gautama Dharma Sutra 12.4
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Gautama a law-giver(false). Dharmasastras as Hindu law books is incorrect, cause they R mostly Hindu Polemics(not legal books). Dharma in English is not "LAW," its more closer to "Religion." When U hear someone say Sanatana-Dharma, they R not referring to any legal-system.
& not all of the Dharmasastras R so harsh on Sudras. some don't talk about caste much, while others talk of natural upward & downward movements inside castes. This shows the independent opinions of the authors themselves
seeba 4 years ago
Dalits choose Christanity because their torture was worse with being Hindu dalit compared to Christian dalit.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
proof for this one? U know that Sudras R not Dalits, they not the same.
untouchablity's recent phenomena in Indian History that come about during the Gupta-period(400 A.D).
There was cruel treatment done to Dalit by other Hindu castes in the past, this can't be excused. But Europeans did to Dalits & lower castes should also not forgotten either,(abuse,torture & bonded slavery).
U want proof, go to Caribbean, Guyana, Africa, Fiji & Malaysia. U will C there descendants.
seeba 4 years ago
Eurpeans converted dalits to Christanity. The Hindus left dalits to die in the streets, so Christians clothed them and gave them food, and gave them a new religion.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
U point others splinter, but ignore wooden beam in Christian history. U ignore good, like Eknath, Ramdas, Narsi Mehta, Gadge Maharaj, Tukaram... Some even gave up brahminhood & suffered for plight of poor lower castes. Bad deeds of Christians & Europeans toward dalits U ignore.
Truth is Christians aren't saints, just as Hindus arent sinners. Hindus never used Scriptures to sight reason for wrong-doings, Dalits R not mentioned before Gupta-period(400 A.D).
seeba 4 years ago
Meaning Dalits R new situation to Indian history.
I don't worship European rule. mass poverty & famines was European legacy. Famines continued til independence,1947. while brits got wealthy exporting staples to Uk.
Victors try cover their wrongs, but evidence speaks 4 itself. Ancestors of Indian coolies found in Caribbeans, Fiji & Mauritius. Lower castes & dalits no-doubt! What did Dalits face in the hands of Europeans: Trickery, kidnap, abuse, rape, exploitation, unfairness,slavery.
seeba 4 years ago
Forget the Christians, today, dalits are converting to Buddhism and Jainism. How do you explain that?
DrGladwin 4 years ago
hiding when it gets too hot to handle your Christian baggage?
R U brain-dead? I said Dr.Ambedkar wanted dailts to support Buddhism. Some R maybe beginning to listen to his long overdue advice. He knew dalits suffered under Europeans & Christianity was dead-end.
money is root of all evil. Europeans baited Dalits into Bonded labour & Christianity with Trickery + financial incentives. Europeans did this to support their powerful institutions. Dalits got was unfairness & discrimination.
seeba 4 years ago
Not money, Hindus discriminated against dalits, so dalits started converting to other religions like Buddhism or Christanity.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Many preachers in the West teach Prosperity Theology(Promising God will provide money to believers). If they use this in West, Y would they not when converting Dalits? Like many Western televangelist Scandal, Charlatanism & manipulation in charged atmosphere. Same happen when missionaries go to India.
+ Christians discriminate dalits, not all dalits leave Hinduism, & some R even beginning to leave Christianity. Fastest growing religion for Dalits is not Hindu or Christian, its Buddhism.
seeba 4 years ago
Also to mention Gandhi was no hero, he had absolutely no problem with Racism, didn't like black people, and foolishly gave the Pakistan to the Muslims when it should have been Khalistan! Gandhi is made a hero, by the Indian Government that you oppose so much!
sicpit 4 years ago
Can your Peacock lord raise the dead and cure lepers?
DrGladwin 4 years ago
absolutely, the Peacock Angel is second only to god!
sicpit 4 years ago
LOL.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Your funny, you can believe in a man that was born from a virgin mother, used magic to heal people, died on the cross, and rose from the dead 3 days latter. You can believe this despite that almost all cultures have had this same story, despite their being no proof of his existance. Yet another persons beliefs you mock.
P.S. I still believe in Jaysus, just not in the sense that you do. Of course he was a man of god he just was not god
sicpit 4 years ago
My apologies, I didn't mean to ridicule you. At the age of 15 I was living in Kuwait, and when I first heard about Jesus rising from the dead, I was laughing out loud. In fact, I was ready to punch the missionary right in the face. I hung out with thugs and roamed the streets after school. Miraculously, I accepted Christ one year later. It's a long story.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
You don't have to believe that Jesus was raised from the dead, or He walked on water. Just speak to new Christians like me, and you'll hear living testimonies. By the grace of the Lord, I'm a better person and finishing up medical school. Surely, Jesus changed my life. And he can change yours too! All you have to do is ask.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
I am glad you have found a life style much better than the one you had before.
sicpit 4 years ago
I have a belief in a loving higher power, that is much bigger than religion. What this conception did for me, religion could not do. I have been sober for over 4 years, I have a job and a car, and I pay rent. Before I was just some looser bum, waiting to die. Please remember that their are unhappy christians, as well as happy and content people from other religions. My belief is all lead to one. A book and a mind is too great for god
sicpit 4 years ago
Second only? I pray to the one and only GOD of heaven and earth - creator of the Universe. You, too, can pray to GOD only through JESUS.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
your god is a Zombie!
sicpit 4 years ago
Christians believe the trinity, so that makes them polytheistic. It would be better just to be Jewish, Muslim or even Sikh, IF U want pray to only one GOD. Face it Christians worship a dead Jewish man from Palestine.
And Jesus is not the only Son of God in the bible(Genesis 6:2),anyone can be Son of God(John 10:34-37)& Son of God Melchizedek didnt have a mother or father(Hebrews 7:3).
If Melchizedek came in a vision, & told me to follow him(like Jesus did for Saul in Acts 9), shouldnt I
seeba 4 years ago
Only Matthew 1:18-23 talks about so-called Virgin birth. No other Gospels talk about this detail. Not even Luke 1:34-36 can be seen authentically saying it(because it can be interrupted many different ways).
Virgin is fake. Matthew uses Isaiah 7:14 as inspiration of mary's virgin-birth, but the Hebrew word in the bible in almah(young-woman) not virgin(betulah). Matthew must had bad greek bible translation, so he made mistakes. Then that mistake later became mainstream Christianity.
seeba 4 years ago
+Luke 19:30-37 & Mark 11:2-8 reads Zechariah 9:9 correctly, Matthew 21, makes Jesus not ride one but two donkeys sametime comically.
+Bible can't agree when Jesus died. John makes Jesus die on Thursday on Passover. While the 3 older gospel make it Friday after Passover.
+Messiah was suppose to come from male descendant of David, but virgin-birth cancels need of father. Some reason both Matthew 1:1-17 & Luke 3:23-38 has a Genealogy of Joseph to Jesus. But 2 Genealogy don't agree.
seeba 4 years ago
Mary was in the bloodline of King David.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Ok. Even if the other 3 Gospels don't talk about the virgin birth, they do say that Jesus is the Son of God. Which means Jesus IS the Son of God.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Can Melchizedek raise the dead, cure lepers, give sight to the blind, and die for his people? Nope. He cannot be the Son of God. Melchizedek is only a priest of God, nothing more.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
No. JESUS is FULL God and FULL man, and he LOVES you sicpit :-)
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Mary, bloodline of King David? There is no proof. Some desperate ppl use Luke 3:23-38 as Genealogy of Mary. But that's a lie, its really a Genealogy of Joseph, that contradicts Matthew's Joseph Genealogy.
And Angels are Sons of God(Genesis 6:2), & normal ppl can also become Sons of God(john 10: 34-35), if the Word of god remains inside them(1 John 2:14)
seeba 4 years ago
Melchizedek only priest of God? Sure he did priestly blessing of Bread & Wine for Abraham(Genesis 14:18), but he was also:
*King of Salem & Religious King of Peace
*He was Born without a human father or mother
*Had no Ancestry, He existed long before birth
*He was immortal(so he had victory over death)
*Therefore he's Son of God + heavenly priest
Also Prophets Elisha cured lepers, made food from poison, Changed weather & resurrect child + man. But that doesn't mean I worship them as God
seeba 4 years ago
The Indian caste system is horrible, but it's not limited to religion (Hinduism) nor should this be a crusade against Hinduism. Hinduism is a beautiful religion, and yes many Hindus are very much opposed to the system. Some are even activist.
=Please Shiva Destroy this foul system
sicpit 4 years ago
Hindus cannot oppose the caste system - it is a part of Hinduism. Try marring a Hindu girl from India - you'll be refused immediately.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
U want Hindu girl from India(but got refused), so this your great proof of Hindu caste-system? If so, go over to Israel & try marry an orthodox Jewish girl. Or Muslim Arab from Saudi-Arabia or an Amish girl from Pennsylvania. When you get turn down (& your ego is in ruins). Then U can conclude that there's caste-systems for ppl too.
& tell yourself, it has nothing at all to do with the conservative nature of these cultures.
seeba 4 years ago
Try convincing a Brahmin Hindu girl to marry a Vaishyas guy - and see the response. Of course a Jew cannot marry a Muslim. Hindus are not permitted to marry outside their castes. It's a simple fact and you cannot disprove it by twisting your words.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Religious jews don't marry Christians. Many Jews say muslim R crazy, but respect monotheistic Islam than pagan Christianity. U worship a man as 1 true God, & believe he did human sacrifice 4 other ppl sins.
In India, almost all the castes discouraged inter-caste marriages. Many castes didn't want their daughters marrying brahmins in past + even today. Like Kshatriya Rajputs. Indias conservative, dating & premarital pregnancy is still taboos. Parents play important roles.
seeba 4 years ago
inter-caste marriage does take place, even if rare. Dr. Ambedkar was dalit & his 2nd wife was a Brahmin. But in a country were arrange marriage is the norm. Ppl will be picky about who they marry their children to.
They choose others similar to themselves, so marriage partners have strong back-born of support. This goes 4 Christian, Mulism, sikh, jain all others who practice arrange marriage in india. Also 4 orthodox jews, ppl in middle-east, africa who practice arrange marriage.
seeba 4 years ago
all was well with this video but the end seem to summarise why this evil system still exists. with people like gandhi who appeased this system being branded as the reformers has taken the fight against caste into some kind of a warp. ambedkar and periyar offered the real solution to end this mindless and inhuman bigotry and thats how this struggle starts and ends.
lolluben 4 years ago
What a beautiful, sad video. I assume this is you in all the pictures. It is my dream to go to India and do something, anything for the Dalit people...
cattieloves 4 years ago
This might be the best thing I have seen on youtube.
would love to talk to ya some time Agincourt21. As an Indian I would like to say you three words :
God bless you
erasmus96 4 years ago
This is the legacy of religious fanaticism that sacrifices reason on the altar of idiocy. The Hindu and Indian people who like to brag about their past greatness in history have only their shame, bigotry, and irrational beliefs with which to cloak themselves in an age when they should have evolved beyond an egregious ideology that has no scientific or even philosophically reasonable basis.
Ettenyl56 4 years ago
True, and sadly, such systems of hate ideology have existed in other cultures as well. I guess this is how the world works...
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Excellent! God Bless You...
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Katuse 4 years ago
a powerful video with a powerful song. often, caedmon's has been a source of great blessing, encouragement, and challenge for growth in my life as a believer. it is a blessing to see that God empowers such people with such a heart.
may the gospel of Jesus Christ continue to empower you, grow you, and charge you in such ministry.
blessings.
coconut888 5 years ago
The Gospel of Christ has done far worst than this
sicpit 4 years ago
I don't think so. Jesus never mentioned anything about casteism in the New Testament. In fact, according to your book, if a dalit listens to Hindu Holy Scriptures, the dalit shall be punished by having molten glass poured down his ear. Another example: you wouldn't be surprised if Churches are burnt and nuns are raped in India. However, if a Hindu temple is burnt and a priest is beaten in the United States -- that would be a shock.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
What Hindu "holy book" are you refering too? There is not just one universal text. Lets not forget to "sufer not a witch to death" Or if "your friend or family comes to you and tell you to worship other gods, to put them death" Slavery is ok in the bible. Don't pretend like the Old Testament doesn't exist, or that Paul's sexism doesn't exist either.
sicpit 4 years ago
The Old Testament represents the old covenant with God. With the coming of Jesus, a New Covenant was formed with Christ's blood. Jesus raised the dead, gave sight to the blind, hearing to the deaf and made the lame walk. He said, "Love thy neighbor as thyself." He had a friendship circle consisting of Kings, governors, lawyers, lepers, prostitutes, murderers, thieves, etc. Surely, he considered all people equal. Open your eyes so you can see my friend.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
The book is Manusmriti. Jesus never mentioned anything supporting slavery. Paul said those things because of the culture of that time, not because of religion. Today, women enjoy maximum freedom only in Christian countries.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
I never said anything about me being a Hindu, go look at your history before you start point out the spec in the Hindus eyes. I also wouldn't be surprised if a Hindu Temple, a Gurduwar, or a mosque get destroyed in India as well.
sicpit 4 years ago
You seem to be frustrated with life. You are you dragging Gandhi, Khalistan, Pakistan, slavery in between? Do you think any other savior would be tortured, shamed, spat on, and hung naked on the cross for the sake of his people?
DrGladwin 4 years ago
I am not frustrated at life, I am frustrated at religion saying this religion is the only way, and all others are false.
Just about all saviors of religion have had suffered. Christianity is no more than Jewish interpertation of religions much older. Jesus to me is the sUn of Man
sicpit 4 years ago
The bible has castes, what do you think the tribes of Israel are, and Levi & Cohen where its Priestly community. The Jews, OT, and NT all respect this Jewish caste-system. Arabs, Kurds, and Afghans have their castes too, so there is nothing special about India.
Hindu temples are atacked in USA(even in Canada), Its rare because there are laws that would punish these acts. But when it does happen, the American media keeps quiet about it. So stop ACTING "Holier than thou."
seeba 4 years ago
There is no Hindu Scriptures saying: "dalit shall be punished by having molten glass..." Hindu Scriptures don't even mention dalits, so stop making things up.
Manusmriti don't even mention the word Dalit. And Dalits don't belong to the caste-system. Dalits aren't even the same thing as slaves. If you no idea what you are talking about, then better not saying anything at all.
seeba 4 years ago
If you follow Jesus then OT should be very important. Jesus said he came to uphold the torah & prophets, not ignore or destroy them(Matt 5: 17-20). Paul lied about Torah losing its important after Christ.
Did Noah's Covenant lose importances after Avraham's Convent? Did Avraham's after Moses, or after prophets? Jews view them all as important. Why Jesus takes away from Moses? Why don't Christians celebrate passover, Lastsupper was Passover?
You guys are not a religion of Jesus, but paul.
seeba 4 years ago
Jesus wouldn't heal Canaanite in(matt 15: 21), until she begged & humiliate her nationality. Jesus even calls gentiles DOGS. He only came to help the jews(not gentiles).
Jesus didnt speak of Slavery, but was torah supporter, so likely he supports slavery. Also Jesus had no problem of beating misbehaving servants(Luke 12: 47-48), or killing disobedient children(Mark 7:10). Peter, Titus, Timothy, and Paul all OK Slavery(long as you treat them well). Christians, Slavery is OK.
seeba 4 years ago
Yes, JESUS is indeed the only way. You can accept this fact now (the easy way) or learn about it after you die (the hard way). You should read the story of Sunder Singh - a Hindu priest who became Christian after JESUS paid him a visit.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
How can Jesus be the only way, he entered this world little over 2000 years ago, religion has been around millions of years before hand. Either god is so simple that he can be understood by a human hand(bible) or he is really unmerciful to damn billions of people who believe otherwise
sicpit 4 years ago
Sunder Singh a Hindu priest? are you for real! And what a bad example too.
He was Sikh not brought up as a devout Sikh, but a religious Pluralist. His mother took him to ascetic Hindu monks(against Sikhism), read vedas + koran & also sent him to a Christian mission school. After she died he became Depressed.
Even when he became a follower of jesus after, he was still an universalist. He believed all people(non-christians too)would eventually gain salvation.
seeba 4 years ago
"Sadhu" means Hindu priest. Sikhs never use the word Sadhu, instead use the term "Guru." Second, Sunder Singh preached Christanity, nothing else. Sure, he was researching other religions, but he found the True religion - Christanity!
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Sadhu means renunciate, or someone that is a monk. Priest are typically married.
sicpit 3 years ago
God doesn't damn anyone. People damn themselves. God just goes away from people when they reject Him...that's when the trouble begins.
DrGladwin 4 years ago
Who died & made you expert on Hinduism?was it Jesus,cause your understanding's poor at best. Ppl who renounce marriage, wealth & luxuries R Monks, & that's what Sadhus R.
Hindu Words for Monks R: Sadhus, Sanyasi & Yogis. Words for PRIESTS R: Brahmins, hotars, atharvan, udgātr & bahvrcas.
The term Guru just is an Universal Indian word for Teacher(like Hebrew word,Rabbi).In India you can even call your Math Teacher, a Math Guru.
seeba 4 years ago
Sikhs don't believe in Monkhood(Sadhus) & Priesthood(Brahmins). Y didn't Sunder's mother take him to local Gurdwara to learn his religion. But rather went 1000s of mile away to isolated Hindu Ashrams(hermitages).
I think she's Hindu women married to Sikh man. & She wanted her youngest to be Hindu the only way she knew how, & after her early death he became lost & then joined Christianity.
Sunder said all people R saved. God doesn't run out, but creation will finally return to Creator.
seeba 4 years ago