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  • I can't believe an artist of his stature made such freshman italian mistakes rolling his "r" in piacere, barbiere, figaro, etc. Funny. That wouldn't happen today. But then again, no one sings like this. still my favorite. I'll take the italian mistakes with a voice like this, please.

  • Wow. Old School. Amazing. THIS is Opera.

  • Old opera singing was better

  • must say this was not my favorite rendition of this song, while his voice is great i just did not like this rendition 

  • un grande

  • Consumate Peformer, Mr. Warren. A Great Voice!

  • Best version I've come across.

  • I love Warren's voice. He has a richness that is wonderful. My only crit of this performance is his articulation. The aria is a challenge for sure, as you need to have range, power and the ability to spit out a machine gun of lyrics. His voice is just wonderful.  For fans, listen to the recording of his Russian tour.

  • Bravo !

    

  • Brillante.

  • awkward

  • lets burn down all opera houses now, Warren is long dead, so is London, Kraus................ who else to come?????

  • Mind bending. Thanks for sharing.

  • The high Gs are INCREDIBLE. 

  • i love his tuned laugh at about 2:45. hahahaha hahahaa :) best version ever.

  • Thanks for sharing this gem! Warren was the greatest!

  • WOW... BEAUTIFUL!!!

  • I remember the first time I heard this was in a Tex Avery's episode "Magical Maestro," and somehow I got lucky enough to find the full piece here! It's so BEAUTIFUL!

  • How in the world did he managed that smile? His mouth must have been killing him.

  • @Lassannn I think he was actually having fun

  • The best

  • You said it blueswailer - better than I could. I kept reading comments about this bloke and decided to home in on him for a listen - not disappointed at all. Will chase up a few more of his. Graham Melb Aus

  • Damn, he's just smiling and looking around like he's not doing anything special. And that technique. Like many have already said, I'll have to repeat. Seamless, consistent, powerful. Those phrases where he goes from high notes to lows in a single breath. I could listen to 'em all day. Damn. One of my favourite operatic baritones and another untimely death.

  • This guy is a cannon!

  • Complete control over the complete instrument. Brilliant.

  • truly magnificent1!

  • AfroPoli from about a month ago, Wobble? HE has complete control over the vocal instrument. Truly masterful.

  • The voice is fantastic. The artistry is pedestrian.

  • BEST EVER!! :) 

  • Wow, what a huge voice!

  • My god. his technique is seamless. I don't even have to know what good technique is to tell that he's making little little effort and a massive sound. His tops sound unbelivably tenorish. It's mad. It seems like he should be a heldentenor.

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  • That's one big wobble.

  • The easiest Big Voice ever! It's a walk in the park 4 him:) Even Tenors who sing this aria don't have his ease! BRAVO LENNY!!!

  • I used to gather with baritones who were voice students from the 30s and 40s -- Being from a different generation I found it marvelous to hear what they had to say- Most felt this man was in a class unto himself -- They admired and respected tMr Warren's technique, sound and vocal production -- Just my 2 cents!!

  • Who was the conductor in this?

  • I read years ago that he studied as a tenor first.

  • one thing's for sure I gather from the comments here -- Even the people who don't like him like him

  • Man he has a GREAT voice! Everything I inspire to be.

  • tenor,but goes very well as baritone! bravo!

  • incredible voice

  • Such a strong voice!

  • That was an impressive interpretation. His voice is so beautiful.

  • this is my favorite opera song

  • au fantasiuria.....

  • au zalian magaria ......

  • Warren's voice was never very much (in front) he's going way behind in high notes but at the end Merrill was litterally swallowing them. But in his younger age he had the most beautiful voice

  • I know nothing about singing or the opera, but this guy is the best I have ever heard!

    Compared to all the others he makes it look easy and he enjoys it....his expressions are perfect and not over exagerated (sp)..at 3:39 he is the best....no other singer hits a home run like Warren....great...

  • Boring interpretation, but absolutely STUNNING voice.

  • @Mooorhe Boring interpretation...? I have never left a rude comment on here. Until now. You are clearly an idiot. Go back to listening to country music. I'm sure your inane comments will be much better appreciated there.

  • Gosh, what a vicious comment.

    This rendition is devoid of dynamics, vocal colouring and expression (save a bit of smiling). His Italian is far from perfect and he is sluggish towards the end of the piece.

  • @Mooorhe Well, you're right, I was rude and boorish. My apologies.

    Thank you for being so gracious. Best wishes.

  • @Mooorhe You are exactly right. This is simply a mediocre rendering; the characterization and spark this aria requires are just not here. Warren was neither a good actor nor a noted interpreter, he just had the 'voice' and a cult has grown up around it. His fans will forgive him anything, but this is as flat as day old soda.

  • @X56000 this is opera- singing first and foremost is the art form! Since when is subtly in acting poor?... all that over top nonsense is sad and disgraceful!

  • @gvocalist07 No offense intended, but I'm not quite sure what it is you're saying here relative to my comments. But if you are implying that those singers who are superb interpreters and first rate actors are 'over the top' then I would say that it is you, and not I, who have missed the point of opera. Warren's voice has reached cult status and his fans will brook no criticism of the great man, but there is more to superb singing than having a great voice. This pedestrian jog proves it.

  • @X56000 Pedestrian jog? lol, He sounds pretty damn excited to me.

  • @Mooorhe Exactly. A poor rendition.

  • @Mooorhe

    agreed, having great interpretation is wonderul, but if you have a voice like Sutherland or Warren, who freakin cares. I just want to hear the beautiful voice =)

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  • Primo--- I heard Bastianini on stage sing Rigoletto in the early 60's, Mac Neil and Warren as far as power had bigger voices and frankly Warren had the better voice, also Mac Neil in his prime when I heard him was first class.. I never was a Gobbi fan but he was a great actor and I saw and heard him in Chicago many years ago.

  • For pure beauty, Merrill was tops and for the greatest Verdi singer of all, emotion and power and all that goes with it, Warren. Jan Peerce told me he was the greatest Baritone he ever sang with and he sang with Tibbett and also was close to Merrill. If Warren was Italian then they would say he was the greatest of them all but he was Born an American.

  • ThePrimobaritono77:While Leonard Warren was the greatest baritone of the century IMO Merrill's voice was stunningly beautiful and he did have great high notes and a very secure bottom. He didn't have to wait for Warren to die and for Bastianini to die of cancer. That is a tasteless and totally untrue remark. Take a look at the Met archives. And I have live performances by Bastianini, say Ernani, well before his health problems that are way beneath the standard set by Merrill.

  • @Yubarco

    Whom do you prefer then as Figaro?

  • Merrill, Gobbi, Bastianini and Prey were all better interpreters. Somebody here said Warren was a technician. I agree. He certainly had a fabulous voice, but many people cant get past that to acknowledge the rather wooden quality to much of his singing. Here, for instance, there isnt an ounce of snap in this lively aria anywhere. He just gives us a big smooth well manicured sing (except for the wretched Italian). Watch these other fellas do it. Youll see—and hear--the difference.

  • @Yubarco

    I agree with you refering to Merrill and Bastianini. I like their perfomances more. I am not convinced about Gobbi and Prey, both good actors but not great voices, just my opinion. This is very hard to sing. Warren doesn't really convince me as figaro here, but he was one of the greatest baritones, one of the best Verdi interpreters, wonderful Rigoletto or Macbeth for example. We should not judge him because of this video.

  • Thank you for your thoughtful reply. (one must tread with caution here as there are so many brow-beaters just waiting to pounce) I agree that Gobbi's voice was nothing special, but Prey had a beautiful lyric baritone. Just listen to his lieder. Both were, IMO, better artists/interpreters than Warren. Warren made it on the quality of his voice and his careful approach, but he has never excited me as a singer, even in Verdi. I just prefer a clearer more ringing sound.

  • Are you insane? When Wilfred Pelletier heard Warren singing this aria in his audition for the Met, the conductor thought his staff was playing a joke on him and substituting a world class baritone. Warren's sound is phenomenal and and glorious and one could only HOPE more baritones today had even one tenth of this man's gift!

  • @ThePrimobaritono77 This is as "creamy" a rendering of this aria as you'll ever hear and this ISN"T a creamy aria. This is like listening to someone read aloud in a velvety voice while they ignore all the punctuation. Warren would have done well to take a few notes on how Merrill or Bastianini did this. They, at least, met the composer's expectations--oh, I forgot, they don't have "that sound", do they? They were just better singers. How silly of me.

  • I might yield that Bastianini could approach Warren in his power and majesty of the voice, but Merrill (who was good) is light years from LW and was never a true Verdi baritone. Warren's effortless top and his sonorous middle were something to behold. And BTW, Merrill's renditions were boring. If this defines a "better singer" for you, so be it...

  • so you understand: This is like listening to someone read aloud in a velvety voice while they ignore all the punctuation. If Merrill's rendition was dull, that makes Warren's shameful.....

  • Sorry but the word shameful linked to Warren is unwarranted. There is a recording of Pagliacci with Bjoerling and De los Angeles where Warren sings Tonio and Merrill Silvio. And that's the way it was while Warren reigned. He cast a long shadow and Merrill knew it. He didn't have the top or bottom comparable to LW and lived on his middle register. And let's face it, RM's career took off when LW died on stage and Bastianini was cut short by cancer. But if he's YOUR singer, God bless...

  • huh?? why?

  • Just listen to his Forza duets with Björling. No one sang Verdi like he did. And Callas, teacher of us all, thought this as well. She wanted to do Ballo with those two, but naturally Bing-Bong said no, that was reserved Stinka-Zinka Milanov.

  • Leonard Warren is great and so is his diction - but this recording is muddy.

  • Beaultifull voice and awfull accent! I assume his italian coach must have taken the day off...

  • great technique and a solid wonderful baritone, not the most exciting but very solid. the most amazing baritone display i ever heard was a recording of a young diskau singing amazing high note. it sounded like a baritone luciano pavarotti. one of the most exciting sounds i have ever hear especially from a baritone which is a rarity.

  • I love his smile ;D

  • 1) The 1950's microphones had very little dynamic flexibility. Loud/soft variences were kept to a minimum

    2) Today's siningers are MORE covered than Warren. His voice was remarkably smoothe and consistant.

    3) No baritone today could come close to this quality. None can do as easy a high "A" as does Warren.

    4) Warren's production was very "frontal" and high in the "masque." What sone call "covered" is his easy use of the soft pallate. This approach to singing woudl help current singers.

  • I would only argue as to point 3 - Milnes comes very close to matching the A.

  • Bad microphones? Give us all a break. You sound like one of the legion who worship this voice. That's fine, but Warren was a very careful, very technical singer and his sound was anything but frontal or high in the masque. He worked very hard at placing everything just so, i.e., well covered, seamless, "pretty." As x56000 put: all caramel, no fire. There is size and power in the voice and absolutely no character or passion. If you like technique, he's your man. I prefer passion, thanks.

  • you really have no idea what you're talking about. this guy can act circles around the most "passionate" of singers of ANY era. you just have a bug up your ass because someone is that damn good and people recognize it. total emo

  • Warren was a master technician. THAT was his strength. He was smooth, meticulous, careful, had a fine big instrument (if you like that particular rounded and uniform sound--I don't) and never strayed far from the secure environs of the Met. You may want to fall down and worship at his feet, but please let's just be plain speaking about what he ACTUALLY was. He excelled in a very particular kind of way: beautiful voice, excellent technique; that's the whole package. Passion isn't a part of it.

  • passion is subjective

  • @unit10 Eh, while the rest of your comment is good, I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree that none can as easily get out that A. I'm a young, fairly undeveloped baritone, but an A will still float out for me (after warmup earlier in the day, of course). Some baritones have all the way up to a usable B and C.

  • @unit10 I will keep this in mind in the future =)

  • @unit10

    You are right about the soft palate, very few singers use this technique... because they don't know about it, and also the bad breathing technique they are taught ( breath through the stomach )... I think all of the famous baritones in my country, like Nicolae Herlea, used this vocal technique, and all classical singers in Romania are taught this technique about raising the soft palate for high quality of sound.

  • @unit10 "No baritone today could come close to this quality. None can do as easy a high "A" as does Warren."

    Sir Thomas Allen

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  • @unit10 I wouldn't say "no" baritone today to could come "close" to this quality. There are some outstanding baritones out there, a lot of which have yet to or never unfortunately will be discovered. Leonard Warren is incredible though, he's got better high a's then I do and I'm a tenor!! Also, I HATE that there's narrating over the introduction ritornello, Rossini didn't write that ritornello for kicks-n-giggles. Thirdly, why is that conductor using a BASEBALL BAT for a baton!?! haha

  • kgarmaker--can you see his larynx--can you hear his larynx--?

    maybe it is a 50 year old film that is grainy and not "throaty" singing that allowed to him to sing high C''s etc. he was not a LL fanatic, he had another tech.

  • His diction is RIDICULOUS (as in ridiculously good), I can make out almost every word he sings, which is pretty rare for this aria. Bravo, Maestro Warren.

  • Diction does not a singer make. Nor does it make for interesting singing as the previous commentator points out. Warren tends to sound the same on about anything he sings. Very old fashioned highly covered sound. Good for its day, but that swallowed way of singing is history. London did it too, but he was just a much better artist.

  • Thank God for diction being less important, because I'm trying this song as well, and some of my words are almost inaudible. Even though I'm getting the pitches and rhythms and I actually KNOW the text, I can't quite make it clear. Advice?

  • Diction IS important. But it doesn't make a singer good in and of itself. Warren's Italian is strictly Berlitz but it is clear. Advice? I don't know your circumstance. Are you coaching with someone?

  • Not very interesting singing, but "pretty." He seemed to work awful hard at being "flawless," but it renders all his stuff a sort of seamless legato quality-not exactly the right approach when fire is called for. I guess his legions just worship "the voice." And it is a nice, big, round, kind of throaty voice. But give me the steel of Bob Merrill any day!

  • He sings with a very lowered larynx, and as such, it sounds throaty.

  • I honestly cannot believe what I am reading - of course the larynx should be lower!! Try singing with a high larynx and see how long your career lasts...

  • Sir, I know that. I am a singer myself, however there is a difference between sounding like Kermit the frog.. and.. a normal lowered larynx.. If you lower it too much your swallowing muscles become engaged, and they push the hyoid bone smack dab into the larynx, and make it difficult to vibrate. In other words too much of a good thing, results in a throaty sound. I love Warren. I really do. but i am not fond of him in this.

  • I agree with you. Warren's sound was all caramel and no fire. I don't think there's a steely note in him. As you said, the legions love his voice, but it really is sort of a reverse Hoover, if you follow my meaning.

  • Titano.Grande Warren!

  • Please, lets not forget Lawrence Tibbet. If we are going to talk about great american baritones he is top of the list. Warren is fantastic also.

  • My favorite Rigoletto.

    I had no idea he could do this...

    I think America has the corner on great Baritones.

    Warren, Merrill, MacNeil and Milnes

  • yeah, we have all the good ones except Bruson (and a couple asian dudes who are amazing. don't know their names though)

  • raigekimaru: and except Bastianini as well.

  • you're right, he's pretty good too.

  • Now this is a BARITONE!!!!!!!

  • Gracias a Gastòn un amigo y colega que me ha recomendado èste gran cantante!!

    Es estupendo!!

    Gracias por subirlo!!

  • Een bariton zoals een echt bariton moet zijn. Kan de jonge garde een voorbeeld aan nemen.

  • darkness of a bass, high notes of a tenor

  • @raigekimaru Just like a good baritone should be.

  • joyfully sung. i love it

  • I love his facial expressions.

  • ..Warren remains a colossus...matchless perfection, esp. in the 1943 recording with Toscanini...Rigoletto, Act 3.

  • such a rich deep sound for one with such ringing high notes. he could practically pass for a basso cantante when singing in his low register.

  • One of the greatest voices of the 20th century. One thing I particularly appreciate about this rendering of Largo al factotum is it's dignified and conservative presentation, which is purely vocal, musical and constrained within the traditional boundaries of public performance. I can get very tired of baritones hamming this piece up with cadenzas, falsetto, yelling, and just plain silliness. This is an excellent and dignified presentation.  Bravo, Warren!

  • What a soul - a being overflowing with energy, expression, talent. A marvel. Thank you.

  • A titan.

  • great baritone

  • one of the best renditions ever

  • The very voice of this man smiles and despite this he manages to maintain a totally vertical position.

    Truly one of the best singers i have ever heard and seen.

  • Beautiful articulation... you can dictate the text from this video without having to guess about anything!

  • great singing.......

    i have a friend video......go to...."building a mexican baritone voice".......and let him know your opinion.....he is doing his vocal workout

  • "building a mexican baritone voice"

    Huh? Would that be different than say, building an Italian baritone voice? Or any? Look at the exercises that the great Mexican baritone Pablo Elvira outlines in Hines' book "Great Singers on Great Singing". They're virtually the same that baritones all over the world use.

  • Just to get facts right, Pablo Elvira was not Mexican, but Puerto Rican. He born and raised in San Juan, Puerto Rico!

  • Sin duda es uno de los grandes barítonos de todos los tiempos. Saludos.

  • impressive voice. and respect for such wonderful artits who have preceded us.

  • This is a voice in a million. Truly, truly fantastic.

  • it would have been SICK if he took that last line up to a high C! Leo had an impressive C5.

  • He certainly could  have done so.

  • I do not doubt his ability to hit the note, his 'Gilda' cries in Rigoletto would often go to C5 and beyond that. But are there any recordings of him singing the note in a passage of music?

  • I'm not sure

  • I don't know but there's an interesting story of a Pagliacci rehearsal where Tucker was absent and Warren sang Vesti la giubba. Supposedly he unleashed a storm of beautiful enormous sound in the room that flattened everybody!!!

  • "But are there any recordings of him singing the note in a passage of music?"

    No. The highest note on record that he sings is the same as many other baritones, a high A. There are several examples of this note, the Otello duet, the Forza duet, the ending of Rigoletto, the Figaro aria, and a really great one on his recording of Sea Shanties where he holds a fabulous A in "Haul Away Joe"

  • Better at anything then anyone today.

  • Are you all listening to the same man, Warren, singing this? It's a fabulous recording. The technique is perfect, his top is astounding and the only thing I wonder is whether he had been a tenor that pushed the voice down. I wish I could have heard him live....really...listen again! The modern singers don't shine his shoes!

  • the great one. big voice and all that goes for a great singer.

  • Robin Williams Sang this.

  • Amazing.

  • Hampson doesn't have Warren's instrument by any measure, but frankly, he demonstrates clearly that singing is about more than the voice. Warren sounds like a heavyweight trying to work the vaulting horse here. This is NOT his cup of tea. Oh, it's big and it's round and its full, and listening to him I feel like I ate too much. This is a lyrical role and if there's one thing Warren wasn't, it's lyrical. Give the great man his due, but believe it or not, his voice wasn't right for everything.

  • "This is a lyrical role and if there's one thing Warren wasn't, it's lyrical"

    This might be the most ridiculous sentence I've seen on Youtube, which is saying a lot! Lyrical does not mean small, light, unsupported or any other description of Hampson's voice. It means beautiful and EASY sounding, from top to bottom. Listen to Warren in the tessitura of "Il balen" or the role of Rigoletto and then try and say he wasn't lyrical! So absurd!

  • You mistake singing lyrically for a lyric voice. Warren was a dramatic baritone in the most classic sense of the word. You are a typical Warren fan, i.e, he was the greatest singer who ever lived,bla, bla, bla. I don't agree and I sure as heck would never call him a lyric baritone. No your assertion is simply ignorance or blind infatuation with the 'great man'. Believe it or not, he was not made to sing EVERY role. And this role was not written with his type of voice in mind.

  • "and listening to him I feel like I ate too much"

    Well, that has nothing to do with his singing. That full feeling is because you are simply full of crap, as your post reveals. And I agree with BishopOnegin for not letting you get by with saying he didn't sing lyrically. Lyric singing has no connotation of size or darkness. It's how the voice hits the ear. Tebaldi described his voice as "huge and soft", and that's apt.

  • You may think anything you like, but Warren was NOT a lyric. That he could sing "huge and soft" means just that and makes my exact point about technique versus instrument; it does not mean he was a lyric Baritone! My goodness what you Warrenites will say about your hero. Why not have him sing ALL the roles in the opera--even the soprano parts. Afterall, he could do ANYTHING!

  • "You may think anything you like..."

    Why thank you. Same to you.

    "Warren was NOT a lyric"... Never said he was, but he was not a dramatic either. The roles he was famous for were high lying in tessitura and the EASE and BEAUTY of his vocal line were undeniably lyric in nature. And Tebaldi did not say he could sing huge and soft. She said his voice was a soft voice, which means it did not have a layer of audible effort on it. And he's not my hero. That was my Dad. Keep shoveling.

  • And if you don't think Warren tosses of Largo with ease, aplomb and beauty, then your ears need to be educated. But then, you think Hampson sings it better! Hahaha! Enough said really. When Warren decrescendos on the first E natural above middle C on the "la", he's about at Hampson's "forte". But not the brittle color of Hampson. And if Hampson had a technique, he'd be a tenor instead of the fake baritone that he sings.

  • If I were to have a vocal hero, which is rather silly actually, it would be Franco Corelli. And of course, no singer could or can do anything. But that's not the point of these posts or for people calling you on your posts and giving you thumbs down.

  • You can demean Hampson--that just demonstrates your brand of ignorance--but the lightness and agility of his singing is what this part is about. "Ease" and agility are not the same thing. Warren's famed  'ease' sounds rounded and heavy and overdone here. Listen to Bastianini do this aria and you'll see a big voice reined in to perfection. Crisp! Clean! Light! Smart! None of those adjectives apply to Warren here. Big, round, dark and smooth do apply to him here. Not the stuff of Figaro.

  • "that just demonstrates your brand of ignorance"

    Hahahaha!

    "none of the adjectives apply to Warren here"

    Your ears are as full of it as your posts. Heavy and overdone? Sheesh!

    But whatever, you're entitled to your opinion that Hampson sings this aria better than Warren. Others have expressed their opinion that Bocelli is better than Corelli. Still others are of the opinion that Dewar's tastes better than a fine single malt. And their opinions and yours are all equitable.

  • You're a good little condescender, aren't you? But you are right about one thing in spite of your intent otherwise: Other people's opinions do matter and have merit.  You belong to the 'Warren Club.' That's fine, he was a great artist. But being extreme in your positions, you can't imagine that he had any faults. But he did. And you can't imagine that he wasn't stellar in everything he sang. But he wasn't. But, of course, that's a premise you wouldn't grant under any circumstances, isn't it?

  • "You're a good little condescender, aren't you?"

    Hypocrite. Only to bullshit artists. Go back and look who called whom ignorant first, jerk. And if you think a baritone who has never learned how to sing above his passagio correctly is techno speak, it just speaks to how vocally illiterate you are. Not that there was any doubt!

  • Bastianini's voice, which I LOVE, was not nearly as large as Warren's. This coming from two who heard them both many times live, Bergonzi and Hines.

    "Big, round, dark and smooth do apply to him here. Not the stuff of Figaro"

    Bullshit. Go listen to Bastianini again. Or Ruffo. Or Merrill. Then play Hampson sounding like a mosquito in comparison. And having no facility to cover or modify his vowels above his upper passagio, because his technique is lacking.

  • "...modify his vowels above his upper passagio, because his technique is lacking." Uh-oh, the techno babble starts! The "I am an expert because I fake sounding like one" begins. Ha! What total bullshit! You wouldn't know good singing if you fell over it....

  • "Not the stuff of Figaro."

    Go listen to John Charles Thomas sing Largo. Or Nicolai Herlea. Or just put on Hampson! Hey, maybe Hampson and Bocelli will record The Pearl Fishers duet. Man, that would be light, clean and agile wouldn't it? Haha!

  • One suspects that you are 1) obssessed with the big sing ie, voice before music! 2. locked in a time warp where everybody since warren is a fake because he was catrgorically the best ever and 3) You don't know shit from shinola about singing.

  • "You don't know shit from shinola about singing."

    Haha! This from some idiot who thinks Hampson sings Largo better than Warren!! What a clown!

    "Other people's opinions do matter and have merit"

    What a ridiculous and desperate ploy. What merit is there is someone's opinion who holds that John Tesh is a better composer than Mozart? And I've seen that in print. Does that have merit? About like yours, I guess.

  • Oh, Gawd.  You just keep spouting your NewYork Times review talk and convincing yourself that you know something. I think you're living fifty years in the past , is what i think, and you're still angry that time has passed and things have changed....

  • "You just keep spouting your New York Times review talk..."

    That's about what I thought. Utter waste of time aren't you. There's no one at the NY Times who even knows what the high note in Phillip's aria is, much less what cover means. As far as things have changed, well, not things that matter. What's changed is that clowns like you are the rule now instead of the exception. And that's sad.

  • I was right. You are living in the past. You sound like a very bitter old man who's watched time move on while he clutches a picture of Leonard Warren steadfastly to his breast and sobs for the 'great one'....Missing the fact that art is alive and doing very well. It may not be your art, but it never had any chance of being, did it? Your position stultified fifty years ago and that's sad. You even missed the irony of the NT Times comment because you're so literal minded. Ur just plain bitter

  • "I was right"