So this lady thinks colour is very important in Plath’s poetry? As she states here! Yet, what baffles me is that she has never taken the time to investigate the colour of arsenic? As she also states prior to this "colour" statement. ??? Mmm strange.
May I quote this lady: "I don’t want to psycho analyse her poems! I really don’t!" Why might that be then? Maybe, because her poetry "IS" really beyond her rigid conscious ability to do so? EITHER THAT, OR SHE WAS EMPLOYED TO BE EDITED? Her body language infers the latter may be correct! But then! Maybe she's an easy to manipulate porn - in this Plath game? Plath was ingenious at Hiding the influence! SO OPEN UP! GO BACK! & FURTHER BACK! PLAY WITH SIMPLICITY! CLOSE YOUR EYES & SEE!
When this lady reads Daddy! I could regress in time a thousand years! For if we are to move forward with poetry & its understanding in a modern world. Then her reading is sure to CRUSH ALL Sylvia Plath did to put it where it is today: All eroticism & imagination is lost! And transformed into a bag of dead words expressed from emotionless lips. Her SO! Literal studies and readings of Plaths works, obviously lead her to believe she KNOWS, what she's talking about? SP was far too clever for her!
Carol Muske-Dukes [leaving aside the fact that she looks like a younger goldie hawn] is really not coherent. and she has no emotion what so ever when reading a poem.
Interesting. We bring ourselves, our world, our essence into our interpretation of another's world. Personification, reductionism, alliteration. The very strength and beauty of any poem rests within it's ability to inspire such thought and emotion amongst the reader.
I think the woman deserved to be rude, Michael Braziller doesn't bring anything to this conversation or analysis of the poems. He goes over inane points of no consequence. He would make me react like this woman too, i felt she was really eloquent and very analytical in her observations of plaths poetry.
The woman is really rude though, no? She butts in and doesn't let him finish his sentences and then says 'let me finish' as if they're being rude?? What? It's like she's looking for a fight or something!! There is something odd about her.
Thanks for this - really enjoying it. Looking forward to watching the Bishop one as well. I'm studying both these poets this year and it's pretty cool that I can watch these and enjoy the discussion!
And I'm sorry - but this lady is completely anti-poetic in her reductionist view of literature. I'm sick of critics reducing Plath to a series of strategies, hey - let's reduce Matissse to green-red-green, or Da Vinci to light-shadow-light. Please!
And I love the argument that breaks out here - typical of what Plath's poems provoke - they play with the tropes of language to the nth degree - the most disturbing/exhilarating thing about her: that she writes at the edge of what we can say.
So this lady thinks colour is very important in Plath’s poetry? As she states here! Yet, what baffles me is that she has never taken the time to investigate the colour of arsenic? As she also states prior to this "colour" statement. ??? Mmm strange.
walteryoule 1 year ago
May I quote this lady: "I don’t want to psycho analyse her poems! I really don’t!" Why might that be then? Maybe, because her poetry "IS" really beyond her rigid conscious ability to do so? EITHER THAT, OR SHE WAS EMPLOYED TO BE EDITED? Her body language infers the latter may be correct! But then! Maybe she's an easy to manipulate porn - in this Plath game? Plath was ingenious at Hiding the influence! SO OPEN UP! GO BACK! & FURTHER BACK! PLAY WITH SIMPLICITY! CLOSE YOUR EYES & SEE!
walteryoule 1 year ago
When this lady reads Daddy! I could regress in time a thousand years! For if we are to move forward with poetry & its understanding in a modern world. Then her reading is sure to CRUSH ALL Sylvia Plath did to put it where it is today: All eroticism & imagination is lost! And transformed into a bag of dead words expressed from emotionless lips. Her SO! Literal studies and readings of Plaths works, obviously lead her to believe she KNOWS, what she's talking about? SP was far too clever for her!
walteryoule 1 year ago
Carol Muske-Dukes [leaving aside the fact that she looks like a younger goldie hawn] is really not coherent. and she has no emotion what so ever when reading a poem.
ninbin34 1 year ago
Interesting. We bring ourselves, our world, our essence into our interpretation of another's world. Personification, reductionism, alliteration. The very strength and beauty of any poem rests within it's ability to inspire such thought and emotion amongst the reader.
bikerchickfrommars 2 years ago
I think the woman deserved to be rude, Michael Braziller doesn't bring anything to this conversation or analysis of the poems. He goes over inane points of no consequence. He would make me react like this woman too, i felt she was really eloquent and very analytical in her observations of plaths poetry.
29harveydinio 2 years ago 2
Dolts.
vita33 2 years ago
45:53 is amazing amazing hahaha
roger20hot 2 years ago
The woman is really rude though, no? She butts in and doesn't let him finish his sentences and then says 'let me finish' as if they're being rude?? What? It's like she's looking for a fight or something!! There is something odd about her.
wheredoducksgo 2 years ago
Thanks for this - really enjoying it. Looking forward to watching the Bishop one as well. I'm studying both these poets this year and it's pretty cool that I can watch these and enjoy the discussion!
wheredoducksgo 2 years ago 2
And I'm sorry - but this lady is completely anti-poetic in her reductionist view of literature. I'm sick of critics reducing Plath to a series of strategies, hey - let's reduce Matissse to green-red-green, or Da Vinci to light-shadow-light. Please!
LukeK79 3 years ago 2
And I love the argument that breaks out here - typical of what Plath's poems provoke - they play with the tropes of language to the nth degree - the most disturbing/exhilarating thing about her: that she writes at the edge of what we can say.
LukeK79 3 years ago
A problem with Plath's poetry - I can only hear certain of her poems read by herself.
Thanks for the upload!
LukeK79 3 years ago
why can they have a free comment section
CircleInTheFire 3 years ago
"Elm"- The face "so murderous in its strangle of branches" is Satan's (Biblical Fall, Tree of Knowledge). Note: "its snaky acids hiss".
jakedennis 4 years ago