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How to kill unions and the middle class voting power. Step 1 Buy off politician so you can pass a lopsided trade deal and clear the way for off shoring American jobs
Step 2 Outsource all the manufacturing jobs you can, this will dissolve unions and dry up the tax base (By the way blame the unions for the job loss)
The states are broke because lost jobs to outsourcing, Since 2000, the U.S. has lost 5.5 million manufacturing jobs, with 2.1 million of those jobs being lost in the last two years alone. Since 2001, over 42,400 factories have closed in the U.S., and another 90,000 are considered at severe risk of closing.
chums102@ Union’s are people of the 99% the 1% attacks unions so they can drive down wages (Your Wagers) People are not dumb they can see right through your anti union BS.
Protesting doesn't work. Wall street doesn't give a damn there already corrupt by money and greed. They know the protesting will eventually die out. It's very simple... People can't protest forever they'll eventually give up. I'm a product of today's day and age I'm a hard working average guy who gets up goes to work everyday for a corporate company NO UNIONS we have our HR department with the so called open door policy. We make billions in revenue a year. Well at least they do I don't. I wo
I supported OWS until the unions got involved. I thought this movement was against greed?? Unions are super greedy. Here in Illinois our state is broke, social service providers and non profits helping the most vulnerable are closing because the state can't pay them, all the while the union representing state workers is fighting gov Quinn for more money. At a time when they should be thankful to have a job, yes, they are picketing and fighting for even more money. Until OWS stands up to the gre
Unions didn't just get bailouts, they've been getting lifetime benefits based on borrowed money for years. Michael Moore is actually right about future's being stolen but it's the government that did it. All the banks did was help them borrow.
so·cial·ism /ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm/ Show Spelled[soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Show IPAnoun 1.a theory or system of social organizationthat advocates the vesting of the ownership and controlof the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the communityas a whole.
2.procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3.(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalismin the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
How is this a surprise? Of course Unions are actively supporting this. They represent a type of socialism and this is what people who don't work or rarely do and want more enjoy. Socialism.
THERE IS NO DEMOCRACY ITS A LIE - ANY PARTY YOU VOTE FOR ARE THE SAME -THEY ARE DICTATED TO BY THE BANKS - GOVERNMENT HAS BECOME A SHADOW CAST OVER THE PEOPLE BY BIG BUSINESS AND BANKS TO ENSLAVE THE PEOPLE -THE MOST ENSLAVED PEOPLE ARE THOSE THAT BELIEVE THEY ARE TRULY FREE -YOU - ME - THIS IS DONE BY PRETENDING WE HAVE DEMOCRACY
Gary Johnson is the best presidential candidate for the american people. He has the most logical and ethical economic solutions for this nation as a whole. I ask that you at least research him, and if you do not, if I did know you, I'd have to ask, why are you voting when you do not have all the facts? Why vote only for your own sake instead of for the sake of our nation and the greater good? Take some time and read, and see what else is out there? besides what the media tells you
CAPITALISM was designed only for CORRUPT OPPORTUNISTIC MANIPULATIVE LAZY POLITICIAN. BANKERS. LAWYERS. DRUG LORDS. JUDGES. TERRORIST. ELITE CRIMINALS. DICTATORS. RULERS. KING. SULTANATE. EMPEROR etc. etc..
PEACE LOVING HAPPY HONEST SOCIETY must survive. FREEDOM..!!!
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BURN THE BANKS. BURN DRUG LORDS ALIVE & OCCUPY THE WORLD...!!!
BURN THE BANKS. BURN DRUG LORDS ALIVE & OCCUPY THE WORLD...!!!
BURN THE BANKS. BURN DRUG LORDS ALIVE & OCCUPY THE WORLD...!!!
Is this what they made the FEMA camps for. This is all being planned, I bet they are going to use provocateurs cops to stage an event, something that brings on Martial Law!
To understand the happenings of today we must study the past. This study begins with Rothschild. After taking control England's central bank they are quoted with saying it matters not who makes the laws as long as I control the money supply. You'll encounter Smedley Butler, Andrew Jackson, Lincoln and Russian czar Alexander, Bolshevik revolution, Garfield, Wilson, and you'll encounter Warburg, Rockefeller, eugenics, Nazi's,. Bush, De Beers, Morgan, + other well known names
What's sicker is that the union that I pay dues to just "jumped on the bandwagon". I'm so tired of these movement hijackers. Jimmy Hoffa Junior would not have jumped on unless it would benefit him, probably in some Wall St. kind of way if you know what I mean.
Take to the streets outside branches of the private Federal Reserve bank at locations across the country– not just to protest, but to “occupy” the source of real monetary tyranny in the U.S. The intent is to focus media attention not just on vague calls to ‘reform’ capitalism but to attempt to reign in the shadow banking cartel itself. The corruption of Wall Street is but a symptom of this unaccountable entity that holds a grip over finance, politics and freedom everywhere.
To understand the happenings of today we must study the past. This study begins with Rothschild. After taking control England's central bank they are quoted with saying it matters not who makes the laws as long as I control the money supply. You'll encounter Andrew Jackson, Lincoln and Russian czar Alexander, Bolshevik revolution, Garfield, Wilson, and you'll encounter Warburg, Rockefeller, eugenics, Nazi's,. Bush, De Beers, Heinz, Du Pont, Morgan, + other well known names. Enlightening trip...
To all and any wall st protesters I assure you students and unions around the world support you, Wall St's greed as ruined not just your economy but most western economies. Democracy has been hijacked, bastardized and exported more than McDonalds
ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SERIOUS ABOUT HIS MOVEMENT MUST READ THIS. GOOGLE: An open letter and warning from a former tea party movement adherent to the Occupy Wall Street movement. THIS IS OF EXTREME IMPORTANCE!!!! THIS IS NOT JUST SOME STUPID NORMAL COMMENT!!! THIS IS SERIOUS SHIT MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS!! GOOGLE: An open letter and warning from a former tea party movement adherent to the Occupy Wall Street movement. READ IT ASAP!!
TO UNDERSTAND THIS WHOLE CRISIS WE AMERICANS ARE GOING THROUGH. THIS DOCUMENTARY WILL AWAKEN YOU TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE THE REAL CRIMINALS WE HAVE TO GO AFTER !!!
In a true capitalist society, the Banks would have been allowed to fall like any business , but since the politicians are very friendly to the bankers, when the time comes they help them out with our money.
@tsubodzuka I agree 100% I am hoping in this one instance history repeats itself because the first time the "smug"bastards says "let them eat cake" all hell's going to break loose. and most of us know from history what happened then!!
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO THROW A BASEBALL. i WOULD PUT THOSE CARNIVAL POSERS DOWN! IF I WERE DOWN THERE PROTESTING AND THEY WERE TAUNTING US. IT WOULD BE A BURNT DOWN BUILDING THEY WERE SUDDENLY STUCK IN. DO YOU KNOW JUST HOW EVIL THESE FUDGERS ARE. I KNOW YOU'RE MOSTLY BRAINDEAD, BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE ROBBING US BLIND WITH THE MEDIA HELPING. THEY OWN THE MEDIA....STOP BEING SO DAMN STUPID PEOPLE...THEY HAVE ROBBED OUT GRANDCHILDREN. THEY THINK. I'M NEVER PAYING ANOTHER TAX.
House wives, teachers and students should join this righteous protest. Amercans, organize this around major cities as well. Forget about the election for now. If you don't take back the civil rights, your votes are just some jokes. They are taking your rights away from you using the police force you paid. Police/firemen unions across the country need to identify the up-coming public service mass layoffs playing out by Cutting Cult in Congress.
IF YOU WANT TO JOIN A GANG JOIN THE UNITED STATES POLICE FORCE=YELLOW BELLY COWARDS, THEY DO NOT SERVE THE AMERICAN TAX PAYERS THEIR MASTER IS LUCIFER!
~~^~^~In 2006 REPUBLICAN legislators mandated that the U.S. Postal Service(USPS) begin a 10 yr process of pre-paying all health & retirement benefits for all employees it may hire up to 75 yrs from now! THE GOAL: To create the ILLUSION that USPS, a NON tax payer funded profit making agency, is on the verge of FINANCIAL COLLAPSE! REPUBLICANS want to BREAK THE POSTAL UNION, lay off 125,000 AMERICANS & PRIVATIZE USPS . ~~~^^~ REPUBLICAN RACKETEERING & GREED ARE DESTROYING AMERICA! !!!
How many of these "protestors" are "progressive" socialists who don't understand that THEY are to blame because THEY want a gov't big & powerful enough to give crony politicians the power to "redistribute" for campaign support.
Wall Street could have NEVER become this powerful without Fascist-Crony Corporatist style Socialism and Central Planning!
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson
Well we are fucked the gov got what they want the ppl off them and on the banks that did noting. Its the gov who is the problem not the banks you're all blind we the REAL PPL WILL LOSE DO TO YOU DUMB FUCKS THANKS
Tony Bologna, the gutless wonder. He's probably a bonafied racist. A hater for sure. He's got a lot of hate in his heart to do something as gutless as that. Pepper spray females and then go disappear in the crowd like a filthy troll. He's a psychotic old man who should be relieved of his duty.
Arrest the banksters! Indict them for committing fraud embezzlement and robbing the American people of billions of dollars! Barak W Obomber won't do since the banksters pay for his "campaign" fees that is bribe money to you and me! it is up to the American people to do it with citizens arrest of the bankster criminals starting with Lloyd Blankfein head of the Goldman Sachs criminal mafia organisation.
He's made some vague comment about the protesters showing "frustration" with the economic situation. Obomber cannot even get his jobs bill through Congress because it is blocked by Republicans who don't believe millionaires and billionaires should pay a penny more in income tax.
You guys wanna see a glimpse of the future? Picture this;
This grows into a million man protest. At one point it will turn into violence and destruction, because the elite will instegate it. That will spread across the nation so Obama declares martial law, which he can easily do within the limitis of current legislation. At the request of the UN, international peacekeepers will guard the streets of the USA.
That's when the elite will have their pieces in place for WW3.
You are absolutely right about that the people, sovereign people, are beginning to stand up and by the looks of things we are going to see this through.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless
minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." Samuel Adams
This thing could turn into a million man march if the peaceful demonstrations are stomped out. Things can take a swift turn when justice does not prevail. The banksters and Wall Street Gangsters can very rapidly find their wealth gone and themselves in the unemployment lines, along with everyone else. CHANGE, REAL HONEST CHANGE. THAT IS WHAT AMERICANS NOW WANT, NOT FAKE, SPECIAL INTEREST OWNED CHANGE. Vote all current office holders out and real, honest change will start to emerge.
This isn't a protest - this is a WAR to save our lives from these ruling elite parasitic criminals who will completely destroy our economy, our nation and ultimately our planet by fomenting a thermo-nuclear world war by their endless wars for endless profits for Wall Street!
WARNING: Moore is a complete idiot, and collectivist gatekeeper telling half-truths!
It's NOT capitalism that's the problem, it's Crony-Corporatism instigated thru the Federal Reserve that is destroying our lives.
@AffinityNetNews Moore has a right to show up and speak, but I get tired of the media putting him up as though he is a spokesperson. He's not. His anti-capitalist ideology is simplistic, if not naive.
But again, he and the people who cover him are free to do what they do - and at this point, I would say no publicity is bad publicity for this occupation.
@dalpaugh Absolutely, he has a right to speak. However, what concerns me is that their are now a lot of people awakening for the first time who will listen to him and think Socialist Collectivism must be the answer because, Capitalism is the evil when in fact as I stated, it is not.
The true battle that is raging is not understood by the vast majority it's: 'Individualism vs. Collectivism'.
Both parties (false left-right paradigm) have been co-opted by Global Fascist Collectivists.
@duminicad that cop who went out got fully identified, address & phone #. THat's quite the effect. If they want to step up to the plate in abusing the law so that Anonymous exposes their full identity to the world, I say it's a winning war move. Innocent people get hurt in ALL options, including avoiding this one. THIS way we can strike back at the criminals. We know where they sleep too now.
Why the fuck do they keep emphasizing that the crowd and movement is "small" but growing? wtf do they think is a big crowd? I've protested before with hundreds of people. I've seen more faces in this protest just through youtube then I've ever seen in any protest i've been to. Way to down play shit RT. Choke in hell
@thenoorys With over 30,000 likes on facebook and thousands in the street despite the fact that the media isn't paying attention and letting people know it's safe to say this protest and cause has more steam than any in the last 40 years. Russia umad?
When the folks in the Teafarty who can actually think for themselves realize that they too should be there alongside the protestors, and then actually show up, then Wall St. will know true fear. I doubt that the Koch bros will pay for those buses.The fact that the Teafarty is still not there proves that they are corporate serfs who like it like that, serfs too disinformed to understand the issues.
this is just creepy. the champagne sippers absolutely had no sympathy for any of the poorer people. Keep this up and history will be like the French revolution
Seeing those rich bastards gloat and drink their champagne is reason enough to get down there and make our pressence felt and voices heard... They are literally like 'look at those little peons - enjoy your crumbs, while we gorge the main meal' ... I am sorry but these people are the real scums of the earth!
Respond to this video...We are anonymous needs to get the names and adresses of everyone of those scumbags and release it to the public.I will be protesting in SAN DIEGO on Oct 7th.
They say that, "the people, united, will never be defeated". Well, the people are not united, and that's why they are not only being defeated, but trounced!
While the problem is corruption, corruption is one of the many inherent flaws of the monetary paradigm. This is something we need to grow out of. I urge anyone who reads this to watch:
@sebrporte corruption is a function of human nature, not the money paradigm. The function of money is to store value for some period of time, in some light + durable unit. That's why gold is money, paper is debt currency but not money, and silver, steel, iron, aluminum don't make as good money but silver's not too bad. Money is NOT the problem: even services can be corrupted, or pure corruption, with bartering them & no money in existence.
@ytgv3fc7 Money certainly fuels corruption, for corruption is a product of power not of human nature. The paradox of power is that it is always sought by those unfit to wield it. Money is not corrupt in itself, it is simply a mean. Only for those who use it as a mean to achieve power is it corrupt. Therefore to truly rid corruption from society you must cut off the source of power, which is the government. This is what Peter and Jacques are proposing, which is not corruption but freedom.
@ytgv3fc7 Money certainly fuels corruption, for corruption is a product of power not of human nature. The paradox of power is that it is always sought by those unfit to wield it. Money is not corrupt in itself, it is simply a mean. Only for those who use it as a mean to achieve power is it corrupt. Therefore to truly rid corruption from society you must cut off the source of power, which is the government. This is what Peter and Jacques are proposing, which is not corruption but freedom.
@ytgv3fc7 Money certainly fuels corruption, for corruption is a product of power not of human nature. The paradox of power is that it is always sought by those unfit to wield it. Money is not corrupt in itself, it is simply a mean. Only for those who use it as a mean to achieve power is it corrupt. Therefore to truly rid corruption from society you must cut off the source of power, which is the government. This is what Peter and Jacques are proposing, which is not corruption but freedom.
@ytgv3fc7 Money certainly fuels corruption, for corruption is a product of power not of human nature. The paradox of power is that it is always sought by those unfit to wield it. Money is not corrupt in itself, it is simply a mean. Only for those who use it as a mean to achieve power is it corrupt. Therefore to truly rid corruption from society you must cut off the source of power, which is the government. This is what Peter and Jacques are proposing, which is not corruption but freedom.
@kryptonickraze corruption is a product only of human nature, the ability to think faster & better than others. That is the true source of all corruption: higher ability. It is up to a person of higher ability to choose not to be corrupt, it is never a product of power. It is the SOURCE of power, power can only come later. The true source of corruption is excessive ability and no desire or need to help others. It is born, never made. It is genetic, it is not societal.
@kryptonickraze Fresco demands all my life be ended, all my freedom, all my ownership, all my skills be enslaved to his vision, and that all that is good in my life be erased forever. This is a corruption starting with him trying to trick you, me & everyone else, and ending with the CREATION of his power as an end-product of his corruption. He does not believe individual freedom should exist ever. I insist it must exist above all else.
@ytgv3fc7 Also how is the global slavery they propose any worse than the wage slavery which is prevalent right now? For the record Im not a huge advocate of the Venus Project, just dont be too quick to disregard any view that challenges the current paradigm.
@sebrporte sadly Peter Joseph Merola (Zeitgeist) & Jacques Fresco push the biggest corruption possible: alleged abundance (impossible) using global slavery (called global resource management & renouncing all personal rights which must include personal ownership & trade).This fraud is the most vicious and ambitious war+slavery humanity may ever face and it is death to all free humans forever. It must be killed and immediately.
@ytgv3fc7 Also how is the "global slavery" they propose any worse than the wage slavery which is prevalent in our current society? For the record I'm not a huge advocate of the Venus Project, just don't be too quick disregard any view that challenges the current paradigm.
@kryptonickraze it's about 200x worse. With wage slavery you at least have the option still to do work with undeclared wages & to make deals for barter. With Venus Project you can't own anything so you can't trade anything. You can't control anything because 1 controlling system is for the entire planet. If it decides you get less, you can starve. You can't fight it. Today you can fight away from that end-timeline.
I can't do much to respond to accusations without merit. To name a few you do not explain why abundance is, in your opinion, impossible; how you attribute resource management slavery; or how ownership and especially trade are requirements for freedom.
How does corruption apply to a system with no social hierarchies?
@sebrporte abundance, as a matter of fact and no opinion at all, requires that all persons on the planet have more than they need to survive. This can't be true because we make babies too fast: that's a fact, not any kind of opinion. DEMANDING I never may own my resources I need is slavery, and that I must work for the benefit of others at my own loss. Venus Project demands this ALWAYS be true. That's slavery. Ownership & freedom are the same thing: you don't understand it? It's pure 100% fact.
@sebrporte if I can not own anything I have no freedom. If I can not have freeedom I can not own anything. If I can own even 1 thing I have some degree of freedom. If I have even ONE degree of freedom perhaps it will be food, movement, ownership, thought, speech, but ownership is on the list of highly needed conditions.
Corruption applies to all systems of SINGLE MINDS able to think faster than other minds & use any trickery. 99.9% of humans are corrupt by DESIGN. Like camoflage, it's BORN.
@sebrporte so with no heirarchy ever existing at any time, so long as I can figure out things you can not figure out, which I can, I can always trick you into making mistakes. I can always relay false information to you, or relay information to you too fast for you to comprehend, and your mistakes become weakness that gives me gains. Hierarchy is never required. We are born unequal at all times, and my abilities always give me advantage just for BREATHING & seeing.
@sebrporte so with no hierarchy ever existing at any time, so long as I can figure out things you can not figure out, which I can, I can always trick you into making mistakes. I can always relay false information to you, or relay information to you too fast for you to comprehend, and your mistakes become weakness that gives me gains. Hierarchy is never required. We are born unequal at all times, and my abilities always give me advantage just for BREATHING & seeing.
I wish I hadn't seen those pictures of rich people yucking it up, because what was merely anger & outrage before has just turned into psychotic fucking hatred!!!!!! I've marched three different days now, including earlier today, and my voice is gone, but I'LL BE BACK!!!!!
@Facingmecca your(and not only) efforts are worthless, if you think that this will have any effect -- besides police going out on the streets and beating people up(that's their job, not to protect you) -- then you sir are dead wrong.
this conflicts will only grow and innocent people will get hurt, nothing good for the masses will take place in the short to middle term.
please don't get drunk with cold water -- because the hangover is going to hurt as hell!
@duminicad that cop who went out got fully identified, address & phone #. THat's quite the effect. If they want to step up to the plate in abusing the law so that Anonymous exposes their full identity to the world, I say it's a winning war move. Innocent people get hurt in ALL options, including avoiding this one. THIS way we can strike back at the criminals. We know where they sleep too now.
@duminicad I'm open to suggestions... Ideas... like PWEI song says: "if the answer isn't violence, neither is your silence!" (and I drink good bier to get drunk)
@Facingmecca regarding drinking, it was a figure of speech...
suggestions? take cover, when all hell breaks lose, you might want to have some savings, so in stead of occupying Wall St., get a part time job, with the money excess you can provide a better future for you and your family.
if you think that shouting on the street will solve anything... then you can as well expect a new law preventing such manifestations...
I say, you want to occupy something? occupy senators front door!!
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@LurkMoar101 ...One needs to remember that these so called "Rich People" have been doing this Rich thing for age's. This just didn't start here on Wall St., it has been been ongoing a being perfected generation by generation. In other words they have been at it a long time, and have got getting rich and staying rich down to a science, and the govt who runs the country in their back pocket, whom are also the elitist's per se.
occupy america is oing to start our 2nd revolution. heres to all the ppl joining in and all those who started this occupations. cheers to the 99% and down with the 1% elitists. wife and i are trying to get a group together here in marquete michigan. not sure how but we will start by making signs and passing out fliers at NMU in our classes. im a disable vet and am talking to other vets at iron mtn va hospital tomorrow.
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ArlanBerglas 2 months ago
UNIONS join the independents? Independents are unions enemies watch out occupy a setup is on it's way
GovernMentalFreedom 3 months ago 5
Shut up Michael Moore...you are part of the 1%.
cruiseluvr1 3 months ago
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BohemianNightmare 3 months ago
How to kill unions and the middle class voting power. Step 1 Buy off politician so you can pass a lopsided trade deal and clear the way for off shoring American jobs
Step 2 Outsource all the manufacturing jobs you can, this will dissolve unions and dry up the tax base (By the way blame the unions for the job loss)
FluxCapacitor2008 3 months ago
Step 3 with the loss tax base now they can go after the public sector unions (by the way unions are why the states are broke)
Step 4 now you can hire and fire anyone you want and pay people as low a wage as you can.
Welcome to the new America
FluxCapacitor2008 3 months ago
Give Obama the house and senate in 2012 so the country can move forward.
FluxCapacitor2008 3 months ago
corporate greed is the problem not unions
FluxCapacitor2008 3 months ago
The states are broke because lost jobs to outsourcing, Since 2000, the U.S. has lost 5.5 million manufacturing jobs, with 2.1 million of those jobs being lost in the last two years alone. Since 2001, over 42,400 factories have closed in the U.S., and another 90,000 are considered at severe risk of closing.
FluxCapacitor2008 3 months ago
chums102@ Union’s are people of the 99% the 1% attacks unions so they can drive down wages (Your Wagers) People are not dumb they can see right through your anti union BS.
FluxCapacitor2008 3 months ago
Protesting doesn't work. Wall street doesn't give a damn there already corrupt by money and greed. They know the protesting will eventually die out. It's very simple... People can't protest forever they'll eventually give up. I'm a product of today's day and age I'm a hard working average guy who gets up goes to work everyday for a corporate company NO UNIONS we have our HR department with the so called open door policy. We make billions in revenue a year. Well at least they do I don't. I wo
bubbakill1 3 months ago
I supported OWS until the unions got involved. I thought this movement was against greed?? Unions are super greedy. Here in Illinois our state is broke, social service providers and non profits helping the most vulnerable are closing because the state can't pay them, all the while the union representing state workers is fighting gov Quinn for more money. At a time when they should be thankful to have a job, yes, they are picketing and fighting for even more money. Until OWS stands up to the gre
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WeAreThe99Percent1 4 months ago
We will be keeping an EYE on it!!! ILLUMINATI!!!!
imdaprince2 4 months ago
Unions didn't just get bailouts, they've been getting lifetime benefits based on borrowed money for years. Michael Moore is actually right about future's being stolen but it's the government that did it. All the banks did was help them borrow.
andrelebaron 4 months ago
don't "Union" in new york mean italian mobs.........?
sersarsor 4 months ago
so·cial·ism /ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm/ Show Spelled[soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Show IPAnoun 1.a theory or system of social organizationthat advocates the vesting of the ownership and controlof the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the communityas a whole.
2.procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3.(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalismin the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
TheErinallheart 4 months ago
How is this a surprise? Of course Unions are actively supporting this. They represent a type of socialism and this is what people who don't work or rarely do and want more enjoy. Socialism.
TheErinallheart 4 months ago
@TheErinallheart Unions and Occupy Wall Street are opposites. Unions rely on Corporations for existence.
Rao665 4 months ago
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THERE IS NO DEMOCRACY ITS A LIE - ANY PARTY YOU VOTE FOR ARE THE SAME -THEY ARE DICTATED TO BY THE BANKS - GOVERNMENT HAS BECOME A SHADOW CAST OVER THE PEOPLE BY BIG BUSINESS AND BANKS TO ENSLAVE THE PEOPLE -THE MOST ENSLAVED PEOPLE ARE THOSE THAT BELIEVE THEY ARE TRULY FREE -YOU - ME - THIS IS DONE BY PRETENDING WE HAVE DEMOCRACY
MR1QUEST 4 months ago
Gary Johnson is the best presidential candidate for the american people. He has the most logical and ethical economic solutions for this nation as a whole. I ask that you at least research him, and if you do not, if I did know you, I'd have to ask, why are you voting when you do not have all the facts? Why vote only for your own sake instead of for the sake of our nation and the greater good? Take some time and read, and see what else is out there? besides what the media tells you
dkoribag1 4 months ago
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CAPITALISM was designed only for CORRUPT OPPORTUNISTIC MANIPULATIVE LAZY POLITICIAN. BANKERS. LAWYERS. DRUG LORDS. JUDGES. TERRORIST. ELITE CRIMINALS. DICTATORS. RULERS. KING. SULTANATE. EMPEROR etc. etc..
PEACE LOVING HAPPY HONEST SOCIETY must survive. FREEDOM..!!!
------ copy & paste WE ARE 99% ------
BURN THE BANKS. BURN DRUG LORDS ALIVE & OCCUPY THE WORLD...!!!
BURN THE BANKS. BURN DRUG LORDS ALIVE & OCCUPY THE WORLD...!!!
BURN THE BANKS. BURN DRUG LORDS ALIVE & OCCUPY THE WORLD...!!!
kopellhinex 4 months ago
Unions join Occupy wall street? Did not unions get bailouts like wall street? Strange how the protestors are so silent about union getting bailouts.
evansville70 4 months ago 3
@evansville70 There workers and there's a lot more of them and they don't make as much so shut up.
Sudbury420 3 months ago
LIARS! It is spontaneous and grass roots, pelosi said so.
NoiseCollector 4 months ago
Is this what they made the FEMA camps for. This is all being planned, I bet they are going to use provocateurs cops to stage an event, something that brings on Martial Law!
elucidative 4 months ago
The heads of Teamsters Unions are there protesting!
Wait, aren't they millionaires?? These protests don't make too much sense…
skiltch 4 months ago
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Please watch: OCCUPY WALL STREET. We want Chicken Money!
youtube.com/watch?v=JUB3_If1VtI
Adriaan1950 4 months ago
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Vote Ron Paul,
End corporatism.
Have true free market capitalism.
TheMango121 4 months ago
lmao !!! Now its all wall streets fault.. Silly Libtards !!!!
66macdaddy 4 months ago
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To understand the happenings of today we must study the past. This study begins with Rothschild. After taking control England's central bank they are quoted with saying it matters not who makes the laws as long as I control the money supply. You'll encounter Smedley Butler, Andrew Jackson, Lincoln and Russian czar Alexander, Bolshevik revolution, Garfield, Wilson, and you'll encounter Warburg, Rockefeller, eugenics, Nazi's,. Bush, De Beers, Morgan, + other well known names
f5thwheel1 4 months ago
Can we please have a good assinator to shoot the police and politicians.. seriously I might even do it my self lol
lgndarymeth 4 months ago
What's sicker is that the union that I pay dues to just "jumped on the bandwagon". I'm so tired of these movement hijackers. Jimmy Hoffa Junior would not have jumped on unless it would benefit him, probably in some Wall St. kind of way if you know what I mean.
MoreWhiteBabies 4 months ago
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The presenter at the end of this clip is like a sexy Lord Haw Haw. I also happen to agree with her.
hoffmanshades 4 months ago
Take to the streets outside branches of the private Federal Reserve bank at locations across the country– not just to protest, but to “occupy” the source of real monetary tyranny in the U.S. The intent is to focus media attention not just on vague calls to ‘reform’ capitalism but to attempt to reign in the shadow banking cartel itself. The corruption of Wall Street is but a symptom of this unaccountable entity that holds a grip over finance, politics and freedom everywhere.
BombShellInfo 4 months ago
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To understand the happenings of today we must study the past. This study begins with Rothschild. After taking control England's central bank they are quoted with saying it matters not who makes the laws as long as I control the money supply. You'll encounter Andrew Jackson, Lincoln and Russian czar Alexander, Bolshevik revolution, Garfield, Wilson, and you'll encounter Warburg, Rockefeller, eugenics, Nazi's,. Bush, De Beers, Heinz, Du Pont, Morgan, + other well known names. Enlightening trip...
f5thwheel1 4 months ago
pEOPLE MUST UNITE! STAY TOGETHER! REVOLUTION IS MUCH NEEDED! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
UljezMiSe 4 months ago
To all and any wall st protesters I assure you students and unions around the world support you, Wall St's greed as ruined not just your economy but most western economies. Democracy has been hijacked, bastardized and exported more than McDonalds
hakaboy6924 4 months ago
ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SERIOUS ABOUT HIS MOVEMENT MUST READ THIS. GOOGLE: An open letter and warning from a former tea party movement adherent to the Occupy Wall Street movement. THIS IS OF EXTREME IMPORTANCE!!!! THIS IS NOT JUST SOME STUPID NORMAL COMMENT!!! THIS IS SERIOUS SHIT MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS!! GOOGLE: An open letter and warning from a former tea party movement adherent to the Occupy Wall Street movement. READ IT ASAP!!
jmulma 4 months ago
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@jmulma Good article - and good luck America.
hoffmanshades 4 months ago
will the police union that beats people be there????
mike1111qq 4 months ago
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the police are working class people too they have also been bamboozled they need to join the movement
Makiba08 4 months ago
While the police are at it, arrest the Unions. Unions are big business and they are interlopers in the "Occupy Wallstreet Protests."
Otis9796 4 months ago
Unions join the leftists? Wow, what a shocker.
bweazel 4 months ago
Keep going
see kVCui-BO3Ak
077448855 4 months ago
Continues to Occupy Wall Street people we look you in the world . good luck american people
seb2012france 4 months ago
Do not let the movement be co-opted by either side of the political spectrum or special interest.
Aim for the head... THE FED.
Marco81MX 4 months ago
WATCH
Zeitgeist Addendum
TO UNDERSTAND THIS WHOLE CRISIS WE AMERICANS ARE GOING THROUGH. THIS DOCUMENTARY WILL AWAKEN YOU TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE THE REAL CRIMINALS WE HAVE TO GO AFTER !!!
POTENTDOMAIN 4 months ago
You are beautiful Alyona
yossarian1633 4 months ago
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@yossarian1633 Is that the presenter? She's unreal.
hoffmanshades 4 months ago
OF COURSE THEY DO
bossladylbs 4 months ago
In a true capitalist society, the Banks would have been allowed to fall like any business , but since the politicians are very friendly to the bankers, when the time comes they help them out with our money.
This is corporatism
MrGilles1990 4 months ago
Michael Douglas how dare you drink champagne!
ImDino 4 months ago
do it in the Friday 13. Hang all Bankers.
moistfaucet 4 months ago
That is fucking disgusting. Those snobs looking down on the protestors and laughing. Seriously, what the fuck has human kind devolved into?
tsubodzuka 4 months ago 24
@tsubodzuka im with u mate
stevenmarkgalway 4 months ago
@tsubodzuka the haves and the have nots?
inDpendant 4 months ago
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@tsubodzuka Kind of good in a way though. Makes people even more fucked off and more likely to carry on.
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cocotower 4 months ago
@tsubodzuka They love that paper, that is in all reality, worthless.
BrammellToe 4 months ago
@tsubodzuka I agree 100% I am hoping in this one instance history repeats itself because the first time the "smug"bastards says "let them eat cake" all hell's going to break loose. and most of us know from history what happened then!!
tappakeggaday1 4 months ago
FUCKIN COMMIES ... ALL
mike4819 4 months ago
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO THROW A BASEBALL. i WOULD PUT THOSE CARNIVAL POSERS DOWN! IF I WERE DOWN THERE PROTESTING AND THEY WERE TAUNTING US. IT WOULD BE A BURNT DOWN BUILDING THEY WERE SUDDENLY STUCK IN. DO YOU KNOW JUST HOW EVIL THESE FUDGERS ARE. I KNOW YOU'RE MOSTLY BRAINDEAD, BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE ROBBING US BLIND WITH THE MEDIA HELPING. THEY OWN THE MEDIA....STOP BEING SO DAMN STUPID PEOPLE...THEY HAVE ROBBED OUT GRANDCHILDREN. THEY THINK. I'M NEVER PAYING ANOTHER TAX.
sssssjjjj1 4 months ago
House wives, teachers and students should join this righteous protest. Amercans, organize this around major cities as well. Forget about the election for now. If you don't take back the civil rights, your votes are just some jokes. They are taking your rights away from you using the police force you paid. Police/firemen unions across the country need to identify the up-coming public service mass layoffs playing out by Cutting Cult in Congress.
beancube2010 4 months ago
IF YOU WANT TO JOIN A GANG JOIN THE UNITED STATES POLICE FORCE=YELLOW BELLY COWARDS, THEY DO NOT SERVE THE AMERICAN TAX PAYERS THEIR MASTER IS LUCIFER!
KamikazeKoscki 4 months ago
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poindexterwitkowsky 4 months ago 2
FUCK THOSE FAT RICH PIGS!!!
BrechPro 4 months ago
@BrechPro
How many of these "protestors" are "progressive" socialists who don't understand that THEY are to blame because THEY want a gov't big & powerful enough to give crony politicians the power to "redistribute" for campaign support.
Wall Street could have NEVER become this powerful without Fascist-Crony Corporatist style Socialism and Central Planning!
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson
yakyakyak69 4 months ago
@yakyakyak69 I know it's our fault there up there, but that just means it's in our hands to change that.
BrechPro 4 months ago
I will not take part in this ! Its done by the gov for more power over the ppl they will not have me
67tr876 4 months ago
Well we are fucked the gov got what they want the ppl off them and on the banks that did noting. Its the gov who is the problem not the banks you're all blind we the REAL PPL WILL LOSE DO TO YOU DUMB FUCKS THANKS
67tr876 4 months ago
Tony Bologna, the gutless wonder. He's probably a bonafied racist. A hater for sure. He's got a lot of hate in his heart to do something as gutless as that. Pepper spray females and then go disappear in the crowd like a filthy troll. He's a psychotic old man who should be relieved of his duty.
Kostly 4 months ago
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless
minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." Samuel Adams
UTheGoalisSoul2 4 months ago
You guys are doing a great job in covering this event. Thank you!
JasonNunez23 4 months ago
Arrest the banksters! Indict them for committing fraud embezzlement and robbing the American people of billions of dollars! Barak W Obomber won't do since the banksters pay for his "campaign" fees that is bribe money to you and me! it is up to the American people to do it with citizens arrest of the bankster criminals starting with Lloyd Blankfein head of the Goldman Sachs criminal mafia organisation.
petersz98 4 months ago 10
@petersz98 the laws in this country protect the rich!...........they are corrupt as the people enforcing them!...
the laws in this fucked up country
steal 300 million dollars = 1-5 years in prison!
steal 2500 dollars= 5-10 years in prison!
subtract 5 years if your white!
add 10 years if your brown!
add 20 years if your black!
JUSTICE OR JUST US?
inDpendant 4 months ago
@petersz98 What exactly has Obama said about any of these protests? Has he had anything to say at all?
Prancer1231 4 months ago
@Prancer1231
He's made some vague comment about the protesters showing "frustration" with the economic situation. Obomber cannot even get his jobs bill through Congress because it is blocked by Republicans who don't believe millionaires and billionaires should pay a penny more in income tax.
petersz98 4 months ago
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NO MORE WAR!
/watch?v=RxaUg2Q4tvg
/watch?v=BHrkc6EB6h0
/watch?v=W3AR0D4WVPQ
STOP THE MEDIA BLACKOUT -- They WANT you confused! /watch?v=dlmouMA5VTs
THE LIVE AND LET LIVE PRESIDENT
gay marriage, legalize pot, end the Fed -- Ron Paul 2012
vechorik 4 months ago
Kill the bankers, Kill the Wall street. Kill the polices!!!!!!!!!!
wooyooing 4 months ago
You guys wanna see a glimpse of the future? Picture this;
This grows into a million man protest. At one point it will turn into violence and destruction, because the elite will instegate it. That will spread across the nation so Obama declares martial law, which he can easily do within the limitis of current legislation. At the request of the UN, international peacekeepers will guard the streets of the USA.
That's when the elite will have their pieces in place for WW3.
CCLJunky 4 months ago
THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING!
THE NUMBERS WILL GROW AND ARE EXPECTED TO REACH MILLIONS
NATION WIDE.
KEEP IT UP -- PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO STAND UP
CECOAdvocate 4 months ago 3
@CECOAdvocate
You are absolutely right about that the people, sovereign people, are beginning to stand up and by the looks of things we are going to see this through.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless
minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." Samuel Adams
UTheGoalisSoul2 4 months ago
This thing could turn into a million man march if the peaceful demonstrations are stomped out. Things can take a swift turn when justice does not prevail. The banksters and Wall Street Gangsters can very rapidly find their wealth gone and themselves in the unemployment lines, along with everyone else. CHANGE, REAL HONEST CHANGE. THAT IS WHAT AMERICANS NOW WANT, NOT FAKE, SPECIAL INTEREST OWNED CHANGE. Vote all current office holders out and real, honest change will start to emerge.
veniceit1 4 months ago
this will be sweep under the rug .. NYPD is a corrupt organization..scumbags on the balcony.. the protesters should have yelled "JUMP SCUM JUMP !!"
xadam2dudex 4 months ago
unions joining it ??
Unions started it
thats why everybody is laughing at them
ForTheRepubl1c 4 months ago 2
:)-
moonsalam 4 months ago
Anyone watching: OCCUPY SAN DIEGO--OCTOBER 17TH!! LOOK IT UP ON FACEBOOK!!
with more people growing in this movement, the 1% will eventually HAVE to listen! We have a voice, so we should--and WILL--raise it!!!
anonPAUymous 4 months ago
All I see are hundreds of unemployed dope smokers who are looking for yet another free ride. These hippies contribute NOTHING to society.
TDG1967 4 months ago
Sipping champane and laughing at the crowd??? Wow how fucking arrogant is that?
derberg19486 4 months ago
KILL WALL STREET!!!
TommyTurntables1 4 months ago 2
No more false democracy
No more corruption
No more fascist capitalism
No more money for war
Power to the People
Revolution now
If the system does not change, we'll change the system
The elites will Fall and the People will Triumph
Ninotchka999 4 months ago 3
Those people aren't Wall street execs. Those people were at Cipriani's Restaurant on Wall Street and that was a wedding reception.
chad071981 4 months ago
this is amazing
AndrewMacedonia 4 months ago
This isn't a protest - this is a WAR to save our lives from these ruling elite parasitic criminals who will completely destroy our economy, our nation and ultimately our planet by fomenting a thermo-nuclear world war by their endless wars for endless profits for Wall Street!
WARNING: Moore is a complete idiot, and collectivist gatekeeper telling half-truths!
It's NOT capitalism that's the problem, it's Crony-Corporatism instigated thru the Federal Reserve that is destroying our lives.
AffinityNetNews 4 months ago 2
@AffinityNetNews Moore has a right to show up and speak, but I get tired of the media putting him up as though he is a spokesperson. He's not. His anti-capitalist ideology is simplistic, if not naive.
But again, he and the people who cover him are free to do what they do - and at this point, I would say no publicity is bad publicity for this occupation.
dalpaugh 4 months ago
@dalpaugh Absolutely, he has a right to speak. However, what concerns me is that their are now a lot of people awakening for the first time who will listen to him and think Socialist Collectivism must be the answer because, Capitalism is the evil when in fact as I stated, it is not.
The true battle that is raging is not understood by the vast majority it's: 'Individualism vs. Collectivism'.
Both parties (false left-right paradigm) have been co-opted by Global Fascist Collectivists.
AffinityNetNews 4 months ago
@AffinityNetNews well said man !
AndrewMacedonia 4 months ago
thumbs up
hoosierhiver 4 months ago
Faux Marie Antoinettes standing on the balcony yelling, "Let them eat cake!" She lost her head & they too will lose theirs. UP with the people!
BrotherWoody1 4 months ago 2
y'all gonna come with me, NOV 14! I will protest every day on Capital Hill!! Can you say, Occupy Capital Hill!
TheAngryAmericanwon 4 months ago
y'all gonna come with me, NOV 14! I will protest every day on Capital Hill!! Can you say, Occupy Capital Hill!
TheAngryAmericanwon 4 months ago
He so full of Bologna hahahahaha!
TheAngryAmericanwon 4 months ago
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@duminicad that cop who went out got fully identified, address & phone #. THat's quite the effect. If they want to step up to the plate in abusing the law so that Anonymous exposes their full identity to the world, I say it's a winning war move. Innocent people get hurt in ALL options, including avoiding this one. THIS way we can strike back at the criminals. We know where they sleep too now.
ytgv3fc7 4 months ago
The Tea Party will never show up, because they're nothing but corporate-backed thugs.
indiereplicant 4 months ago 2
America will be in country wide riots when the dollar sinks. No doubt the main stream media will ignore that.
RT is the only honest mainstream media.
AustralianAllTheWay 4 months ago
Why the fuck do they keep emphasizing that the crowd and movement is "small" but growing? wtf do they think is a big crowd? I've protested before with hundreds of people. I've seen more faces in this protest just through youtube then I've ever seen in any protest i've been to. Way to down play shit RT. Choke in hell
thenoorys 4 months ago
@thenoorys With over 30,000 likes on facebook and thousands in the street despite the fact that the media isn't paying attention and letting people know it's safe to say this protest and cause has more steam than any in the last 40 years. Russia umad?
thenoorys 4 months ago
When the folks in the Teafarty who can actually think for themselves realize that they too should be there alongside the protestors, and then actually show up, then Wall St. will know true fear. I doubt that the Koch bros will pay for those buses.The fact that the Teafarty is still not there proves that they are corporate serfs who like it like that, serfs too disinformed to understand the issues.
FixerDad43 4 months ago
Let see, shall they use gallow or guillotine? Or maybe water-board will do?
ltmikepowell 4 months ago
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Let see, how about burn down that New York Federal Reserves that had lied many countries regarding the gold reserves?
ltmikepowell 4 months ago
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ltmikepowell 4 months ago
Alyona with beauty and brains....as usual does an excellent job covering this issue.
lasku0007 4 months ago
bologna should be bunched to death.
nayanmalig 4 months ago
@nayanmalig How about wish that he'll become say, Spaghetti Bolognese. The meat grinder is turning.
ltmikepowell 4 months ago
this is just creepy. the champagne sippers absolutely had no sympathy for any of the poorer people. Keep this up and history will be like the French revolution
shopperoo99 4 months ago
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Seeing those rich bastards gloat and drink their champagne is reason enough to get down there and make our pressence felt and voices heard... They are literally like 'look at those little peons - enjoy your crumbs, while we gorge the main meal' ... I am sorry but these people are the real scums of the earth!
Stardomchild 4 months ago
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Stardomchild 4 months ago
"Were you listening to me, Neo, or were you looking at the woman in the red dress?"
LucidOwl 4 months ago
NOW THIS JUST PISSED ME OFF!!!
sandpast 5 months ago
Maybe then the douches on the balcony would choke on their champagne
anestis74 5 months ago 3
TEAMSTERS Unions pensionfund should redraw from investing in Wall Street and only buy moraly sound funds in the future or invest in precious metals
anestis74 5 months ago 2
NAILED IT
Muusicca 5 months ago
Deputy Bologna is a Fucking Pussy who needs to get his ass kicked.
RBLA818 5 months ago 3
Now We're Talking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RBLA818 5 months ago
Where I come from Bologna is just ground up meat full of fat and no brains. Fitting name for that pig.
SuperNewf1 5 months ago 2
Respond to this video...We are anonymous needs to get the names and adresses of everyone of those scumbags and release it to the public.I will be protesting in SAN DIEGO on Oct 7th.
420gma 5 months ago
Those banksters remind me of the history of Marie Antoinette, "Let them eat cake"' We all know what became of her.
happilea 5 months ago
@happilea what you don't know is that she was framed for saying it but didn't. Don't forget that lesson
ytgv3fc7 4 months ago
They say that, "the people, united, will never be defeated". Well, the people are not united, and that's why they are not only being defeated, but trounced!
derekox 5 months ago
USA needs "Anna Hazarre" of India.
girmal93 5 months ago
What a bunch of pudgy f*cks up on that balcony.
danielvincentkelley 5 months ago 2
Expose those criminals!
TheComputerEngineer 5 months ago
Thank you RT for once again being awesome :)
While the problem is corruption, corruption is one of the many inherent flaws of the monetary paradigm. This is something we need to grow out of. I urge anyone who reads this to watch:
/watch?v=4O67AZfUMXw
sebrporte 5 months ago 2
@sebrporte corruption is a function of human nature, not the money paradigm. The function of money is to store value for some period of time, in some light + durable unit. That's why gold is money, paper is debt currency but not money, and silver, steel, iron, aluminum don't make as good money but silver's not too bad. Money is NOT the problem: even services can be corrupted, or pure corruption, with bartering them & no money in existence.
ytgv3fc7 4 months ago
@ytgv3fc7 Money certainly fuels corruption, for corruption is a product of power not of human nature. The paradox of power is that it is always sought by those unfit to wield it. Money is not corrupt in itself, it is simply a mean. Only for those who use it as a mean to achieve power is it corrupt. Therefore to truly rid corruption from society you must cut off the source of power, which is the government. This is what Peter and Jacques are proposing, which is not corruption but freedom.
kryptonickraze 4 months ago
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@ytgv3fc7 Money certainly fuels corruption, for corruption is a product of power not of human nature. The paradox of power is that it is always sought by those unfit to wield it. Money is not corrupt in itself, it is simply a mean. Only for those who use it as a mean to achieve power is it corrupt. Therefore to truly rid corruption from society you must cut off the source of power, which is the government. This is what Peter and Jacques are proposing, which is not corruption but freedom.
kryptonickraze 4 months ago
@ytgv3fc7 Money certainly fuels corruption, for corruption is a product of power not of human nature. The paradox of power is that it is always sought by those unfit to wield it. Money is not corrupt in itself, it is simply a mean. Only for those who use it as a mean to achieve power is it corrupt. Therefore to truly rid corruption from society you must cut off the source of power, which is the government. This is what Peter and Jacques are proposing, which is not corruption but freedom.
kryptonickraze 4 months ago
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@ytgv3fc7 Money certainly fuels corruption, for corruption is a product of power not of human nature. The paradox of power is that it is always sought by those unfit to wield it. Money is not corrupt in itself, it is simply a mean. Only for those who use it as a mean to achieve power is it corrupt. Therefore to truly rid corruption from society you must cut off the source of power, which is the government. This is what Peter and Jacques are proposing, which is not corruption but freedom.
kryptonickraze 4 months ago
@kryptonickraze corruption is a product only of human nature, the ability to think faster & better than others. That is the true source of all corruption: higher ability. It is up to a person of higher ability to choose not to be corrupt, it is never a product of power. It is the SOURCE of power, power can only come later. The true source of corruption is excessive ability and no desire or need to help others. It is born, never made. It is genetic, it is not societal.
Fresco is corrupt this way.
ytgv3fc7 4 months ago
@kryptonickraze Fresco demands all my life be ended, all my freedom, all my ownership, all my skills be enslaved to his vision, and that all that is good in my life be erased forever. This is a corruption starting with him trying to trick you, me & everyone else, and ending with the CREATION of his power as an end-product of his corruption. He does not believe individual freedom should exist ever. I insist it must exist above all else.
ytgv3fc7 4 months ago
@ytgv3fc7 Also how is the global slavery they propose any worse than the wage slavery which is prevalent right now? For the record Im not a huge advocate of the Venus Project, just dont be too quick to disregard any view that challenges the current paradigm.
kryptonickraze 4 months ago
@sebrporte sadly Peter Joseph Merola (Zeitgeist) & Jacques Fresco push the biggest corruption possible: alleged abundance (impossible) using global slavery (called global resource management & renouncing all personal rights which must include personal ownership & trade).This fraud is the most vicious and ambitious war+slavery humanity may ever face and it is death to all free humans forever. It must be killed and immediately.
ytgv3fc7 4 months ago
@ytgv3fc7 Also how is the "global slavery" they propose any worse than the wage slavery which is prevalent in our current society? For the record I'm not a huge advocate of the Venus Project, just don't be too quick disregard any view that challenges the current paradigm.
kryptonickraze 4 months ago
@kryptonickraze it's about 200x worse. With wage slavery you at least have the option still to do work with undeclared wages & to make deals for barter. With Venus Project you can't own anything so you can't trade anything. You can't control anything because 1 controlling system is for the entire planet. If it decides you get less, you can starve. You can't fight it. Today you can fight away from that end-timeline.
ytgv3fc7 4 months ago
I can't do much to respond to accusations without merit. To name a few you do not explain why abundance is, in your opinion, impossible; how you attribute resource management slavery; or how ownership and especially trade are requirements for freedom.
How does corruption apply to a system with no social hierarchies?
sebrporte 4 months ago
@sebrporte abundance, as a matter of fact and no opinion at all, requires that all persons on the planet have more than they need to survive. This can't be true because we make babies too fast: that's a fact, not any kind of opinion. DEMANDING I never may own my resources I need is slavery, and that I must work for the benefit of others at my own loss. Venus Project demands this ALWAYS be true. That's slavery. Ownership & freedom are the same thing: you don't understand it? It's pure 100% fact.
ytgv3fc7 4 months ago
@sebrporte if I can not own anything I have no freedom. If I can not have freeedom I can not own anything. If I can own even 1 thing I have some degree of freedom. If I have even ONE degree of freedom perhaps it will be food, movement, ownership, thought, speech, but ownership is on the list of highly needed conditions.
Corruption applies to all systems of SINGLE MINDS able to think faster than other minds & use any trickery. 99.9% of humans are corrupt by DESIGN. Like camoflage, it's BORN.
ytgv3fc7 4 months ago
@sebrporte so with no heirarchy ever existing at any time, so long as I can figure out things you can not figure out, which I can, I can always trick you into making mistakes. I can always relay false information to you, or relay information to you too fast for you to comprehend, and your mistakes become weakness that gives me gains. Hierarchy is never required. We are born unequal at all times, and my abilities always give me advantage just for BREATHING & seeing.
ytgv3fc7 4 months ago
@sebrporte so with no hierarchy ever existing at any time, so long as I can figure out things you can not figure out, which I can, I can always trick you into making mistakes. I can always relay false information to you, or relay information to you too fast for you to comprehend, and your mistakes become weakness that gives me gains. Hierarchy is never required. We are born unequal at all times, and my abilities always give me advantage just for BREATHING & seeing.
ytgv3fc7 4 months ago
As they sipped their champagne they were saying, "Let them eat cake."
ShadeToSun 5 months ago
Now We're Talking!
RBLA818 5 months ago
I wish I hadn't seen those pictures of rich people yucking it up, because what was merely anger & outrage before has just turned into psychotic fucking hatred!!!!!! I've marched three different days now, including earlier today, and my voice is gone, but I'LL BE BACK!!!!!
Facingmecca 5 months ago 40
@Facingmecca your(and not only) efforts are worthless, if you think that this will have any effect -- besides police going out on the streets and beating people up(that's their job, not to protect you) -- then you sir are dead wrong.
this conflicts will only grow and innocent people will get hurt, nothing good for the masses will take place in the short to middle term.
please don't get drunk with cold water -- because the hangover is going to hurt as hell!
duminicad 4 months ago
@duminicad that cop who went out got fully identified, address & phone #. THat's quite the effect. If they want to step up to the plate in abusing the law so that Anonymous exposes their full identity to the world, I say it's a winning war move. Innocent people get hurt in ALL options, including avoiding this one. THIS way we can strike back at the criminals. We know where they sleep too now.
ytgv3fc7 4 months ago
@duminicad I'm open to suggestions... Ideas... like PWEI song says: "if the answer isn't violence, neither is your silence!" (and I drink good bier to get drunk)
Facingmecca 4 months ago
@Facingmecca regarding drinking, it was a figure of speech...
suggestions? take cover, when all hell breaks lose, you might want to have some savings, so in stead of occupying Wall St., get a part time job, with the money excess you can provide a better future for you and your family.
if you think that shouting on the street will solve anything... then you can as well expect a new law preventing such manifestations...
I say, you want to occupy something? occupy senators front door!!
duminicad 4 months ago
@Facingmecca
do something with that rage. Remember Project Mayhem from Fight Club?
worldmayhem 4 months ago
@Facingmecca And they couldnt care less what u think because it effects nothing lol.
1wwww1000 4 months ago
@Facingmecca You are a rock star!!! Thanks for your dedication to a great cause!~
FruitTrees4Life 4 months ago
she looks fit in that red dress
Abuzwebstar 5 months ago
Bologna sausage (pronounced /bəˈloʊnjə/ or /bəˈloʊni/) is an American sausage derived from and somewhat similar to the Italian mortadella (a finely hashed/ground pork sausage containing cubes of lard that originated in the Italian city of Bologna). It is commonly called boloney or more formally, bologna.
007HubbaBubba 5 months ago
SEE A BANKER SLAP A BANKER!
toppgunn2232 5 months ago
The amount of :smug: being excreted from those Wall Street Wanker balconies is enough to power an entire country's powergrid for 88 years.True story.
LurkMoar101 5 months ago
@LurkMoar101 ...One needs to remember that these so called "Rich People" have been doing this Rich thing for age's. This just didn't start here on Wall St., it has been been ongoing a being perfected generation by generation. In other words they have been at it a long time, and have got getting rich and staying rich down to a science, and the govt who runs the country in their back pocket, whom are also the elitist's per se.
007HubbaBubba 5 months ago
occupy america is oing to start our 2nd revolution. heres to all the ppl joining in and all those who started this occupations. cheers to the 99% and down with the 1% elitists. wife and i are trying to get a group together here in marquete michigan. not sure how but we will start by making signs and passing out fliers at NMU in our classes. im a disable vet and am talking to other vets at iron mtn va hospital tomorrow.