@mojospin yeah, whats with the cones on every striaght section,,,,,like they don't want them going too fast, because the noise and all the excitement might give the endangered north western southern shit fly,stress thus leading to potential resperatory problems,,, and we can't have that now can we.
After the F1 Gp 1989 in Portugal,Team Lancia run at Portugal circuit in a test with the S4...the best lap of S4 was 1.18.00...this time would qualify the S4 in 12 position in F1 Gp of Portugal in that year...The S4 is not a car is a Rocket.
I love how people say modern rally cars are quicker than group b cars, yes it is true but they are only quicker because the technology in suspension and brakes has improved a hello of a lot since 86. The fact that these cars are almost as quick due to their straight line power and are 25 years old shows just how much more advanced these cars were. Also, modern rally cars handle too well. These cars are better to watch, better to listen to and took far more skill to drive
@markandrach Actually Cesare Fiorio, Lancia Martini team manager at the time, stated that Lancia and Abarth did some tests at Estoril on a secret proget, the now famous ECV1. It was a lot lighter than the S4 and it had a biturbo engine that had 700-800 hp. I'm not saying it woald have qualified 6th, I'm just saying that the ECV really did some test at Estoril during 1986 Portugal Rally.
Delta S4 Grp. B cars had both a turbo and a supercharger working in series. This is the car that ended group B. Spectators were an ongoing problem, but when the Delta S4 caught its stride, several top drivers (and co-drivers) were killed plunging off mountains and really bad PR sounding stuff like that. It's like Walter Rohrl said (albeit about his Audi), "mere thoughts are even to slow for this car..."
@AOGDC10 It wasn't "several top drivers" were killed, it was 1, and he was a crash or win driver so crashed ALOT! Banning Group B and knocking the WRC back to group A was political. It's the equivalent of the FIA saying to F1 teams they'll be running F3 cars next year, at 6 months notice, after Senna and Ratzenberger died in one weekend at San Remo (which would never happen, of course). The very next year (1987) the FIA banned the world touring car championship during it's first ever season.
@tsport100 dont talk about that crash in 86 if you haven't check the history to see what happened this situation had so much more attached to and it had nothing to do with Henri's style of driving!
@WisdomeSage1989 Idiots like you are a classic..... I was YOUR AGE and followed the sport closely WHEN IT HAPPENED so I know more about it than you'll ever know ok! Pull your head in.
@AOGDC10 The biggest problem imo was that there was basicly no regulations for the crowd. Drivers dieing is the part of the racing (I know its sad, but risk is involved no matter what car you race). A simple "no crowd on the outer turn line" rule WOULD save several lives back there. And then maybe group b could still live.
Oh my frikking gosh, cones in the street? Is that what rallying has become? You don't put cones in front of a group B rally car. Disgraceful. Great vid, though, good interior sound. Too bad he couldn't unleash this monster.
I don't know why anybody is against the new regulations for 2011. Juha Kankkunen said the cars have simple diffs and no center diff. This means the cars are more likely to go sideways. The new cars are almost as fast as the current cars and will eventually be just as fast as the old WRCars. The new cars have no paddle shift gearboxes as well.
For next year the FIA is even limiting the amount of turbo pressure a WRCar can have and the cars will have a smaller restrictor. 33mm at 1.5 or 2.5 bar depending on the source. At least they didn't ban turbos. The engines will be smaller but will have to rev at a higher RPM, but I don't think the power will be down by that much.
The FIA even decided to take out the center diff and only use front and rear mechanical diff.
The "Super Production" version of the WRC mini costs around 345,000 GBP. Thats a package deal wtih an engineer for the first round. Keep in mind that this is not the WRC version of the Mini Countryman. This is the entry level S2000 version which will be a slightly detuned version of the Countryman WRC. The new cars will cost over 350,000 GBP. Even more for the platinum versions.
@rendezvous65 ...that sounds like a horrible future. soon theyl ban 4x4 in rallying because ''it lets the car get to dangerous speeds dont dangerous roads'' if history had taken a differant turn by now group s would be running tiny 2.3 20v with twin turbos and supercharged and theyd handle it
@rendezvous65 That's because Colin McRae 'retired' that year ;)
I agree on going back to the basics is a good thing, rallying should be all about the mechanical grip and the driver's talent, without peddle-shifters and all kind of stupid 'extra' aids. I don't mind the down-sizing, perhaps they could re-use/-develop some of the 80s F1 1.5 Turbo's ...
@SKiLLa2007 No they developed some expensive 1.6T with DI. The chassis itself is based off of Super 2000. Citroen was even allowed to develop a custom engine from scratch. These new cars are still fairly expensive. Now they are around 400-480,000 EUR.
@ineedajoint No banning 4WD could make it more interesting, Oh well, the new spec is very strict according to Tommi Makinen, but the FIA still manages to make it too expensive. With a kit car spec, anything that isn't banned is allowed. The new cars aren't as complicated, and there is no center diff. Just a mechanical front and rear diff.
This could have been so much fun, especially for the driver. You're driving such a beast, you got nice straights & turns. So what is with the f*ck*ng cones. It`s like a 50Mph speed limit on the finishing straight on F1 circuits.
Juha Kankkunen said that a modern WRCar is slower than a Group B car, but the WRCar can take low speed corners much faster than a Group B car ever will, due to the technology that a modern WRCar has.
Next year, the current WRCars will be replaced with a newer car based on the S2000 rules, but will have a 1.6L Turbocharged 4 cylinder, with Direct Injection. Gerard Quinn said the 1.6T make similar power compared to the 2.0T's current used in the WRC.
These will never ever be beaten.... Modern spec cars can never compete, it's one reason why they banned it 600hp in a car less then 1000kg in a era were safety wasn't as gay as it is now... The end was always going to come bless Henri toivonen and serge cresto, that's what finished group b.
I wish I was alive to see it, rallying is not an wont ever be as good as the 80s era
I don't know why I never thought of it before, but why are Group B cars left-hand steer? I thought Germany was the only European country that had left-handed steering, and everywhere else was all backwards like those zany Brits. ;)
Now the 2011 WRCars will be "loosely" based on s2000 shells. They'll have a 1.6T and 4WD. The FIA has now decided to bring back the paddle shift gearboxes and now water cooled calipers are now back in the WRC.
It might look "proper slow", but with a 200 BHP power advantage, this car would wipe the floor with any modern World Rally Car. Group B was awesome, but too powerful.
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The new WRCars in 2011 will have a 1.6T producing around 300 HP. They will also be boost limited to 2.5 bar and they'll use a 33mm restrictor. The same size restrictor as Group N4. The new cars will be based on S2000 chassis but won't have that 2.0L NA engine. Of course the FIA wants all cars to have a control box to make sure teams aren't cheating. I'm sure within 5 to 10 years the new WRCars will be just as fast as the old ones. The old ones are the current ones right now.
Engine Electronics 3-4 years after the death of group B allowed Group A to produce 100f lbs more torque 2000rpm lower, they also worked to a lower overall weight, we also had crude 4 wheel drive, non adjustable dampers and no electronic diffs but what we did have were drivers capable of manhandling the above and 600 BHP, even today in a straight line the S1 can hit 100mph in 6 seconds with 125mph gearing 26 years after launch and lets see if anyone remebers the C4 or Focus in 25 years time!
We ran an Audi E2 with an official 580BHP around the Silverstone short circuit in 2002 and it was 1.1s slower than the Jordan F1 car, both were driven by M Brundle who could not believe the grunt from the 5 cylinder engine!, it took 5 years not 2 for Group A to run similar times to Group B mainly because of MASSIVE suspension inprovements, tyre improvements quickly followed.
when will people realise that it is a myth that this car would have qulified 6th on the grid in portugal in the f1 race.if you dont believe me watch video from the 80's of the 1400 hp gp cars in qualifiing trim.if you still dont believe me carry on dreaming.
also within 2 years the newly formed gp a rally cars were betteringthe times of the old gp b.
@kubampower I thought they banned Group B cause Henri Toivonen and his co-pilot Cristo got burned to death in a mysterious accident. Spectators were part of the "problem" too, but it was the crash that sealed the deal, and the pres of the FIA banned a few hours after the accident.
@kubampower I agree but apart from the spectators the drivers themsleves caused the end of the Group B era..Their hands were shaking after each race and their body was under pressure and there were many fatal accidents..
@Kabaampje444 -"it must have been scary to drive the delta s4"
Depends on how you define "scary"! Some people would call skydiving scary. Some people would call driving a Group B car 120mph on a cow-path scary. I call it "fun"! =D But I AM insane, so you should take that into account. ;)
i think they put cones there to slow the car down so that the watcing areas after it would see and hear as it starts to accelerate again :).. otherwise it would just go WOOOM pass by and you see like second or so :D
As quick as a Veyron off the line and the manueverability of a Miata at LEAST, not to mention it maintains this off-road. Not fucking bad for an early 80s car.
If only their safety advancements had kept up as much as the performance...
@tsport100 yeah I looked it up after I said that and you were right. I seem to remember hearing about it in some old coverage of the 86 Monte Carlo Rally though, and it really confused me, so now I get it haha
@TheEnduroExpert - Tard? For what? I didn't know anything about Group B cars 6 months ago, so I asked. And now I do know, and I'm glad for it. So, to paraphrase my American Redneck neighbors, "Go Fuck Yerself, Bud."
You know the Lancia Delta S4 was probably the fastest Group B car EVER, with 0-60 in 2.3 seconds on gravel? 550hp in a 890kg car, go figure. And all this in 1984! All of the Group B cars are astonishing achievements, but the Lancia Delta S4 most of all, probably.
actually there is a real Suzuki Escudo pikes peak car just like in the gran turismo driven by "monster" Tajima. one of the fastest pikes peak cars ever!! Look it up.
Run over those fucking cones next time.
sssdfrfwrgr 3 weeks ago
Una s4 che fa una gara di salita con i birilli???? che spreco che bestemmia!!!
kingsnake85 4 weeks ago
Dam shame that they had to put fucking cones in the way to slow this beast down. Welcome to the 21st century & all things health & safety.
Group B was the one full stop, sadley never to be repeated.
BROWNLOVEMASTER 1 month ago
WHO IS DA RIOSS???!!! XD
BALENA3100 2 months ago
is this in britain? just seems to be quite a lot of cones
mojospin 2 months ago
@mojospin yeah, whats with the cones on every striaght section,,,,,like they don't want them going too fast, because the noise and all the excitement might give the endangered north western southern shit fly,stress thus leading to potential resperatory problems,,, and we can't have that now can we.
BarryKunz64 2 months ago
@BarryKunz64 people know how to ruin something good
mojospin 2 months ago
S4 could accelerate from 0 to 62 mph on gravel in under 2.3 seconds
Astartas 2 months ago
When this baby hits 88 mph, your gonna see some serious shit.
redmr2na 3 months ago
Must be bloody frustrating to drive like that.... 1st and 2nd n just a pinch of 3rd Gear thru the whole stage
Syxty9yN 4 months ago
Wow, the cones completely ruined that... Did he even get to 60?
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After the F1 Gp 1989 in Portugal,Team Lancia run at Portugal circuit in a test with the S4...the best lap of S4 was 1.18.00...this time would qualify the S4 in 12 position in F1 Gp of Portugal in that year...The S4 is not a car is a Rocket.
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I love how people say modern rally cars are quicker than group b cars, yes it is true but they are only quicker because the technology in suspension and brakes has improved a hello of a lot since 86. The fact that these cars are almost as quick due to their straight line power and are 25 years old shows just how much more advanced these cars were. Also, modern rally cars handle too well. These cars are better to watch, better to listen to and took far more skill to drive
scottN1980 4 months ago
This car makes all the ferraris and buggatis look like gay rich guys cars.
SangueVerde7 4 months ago
people !!!!!!!
dont forget modern rally cars are much quicker than gp b cars
people read a story on the net and believe it
an s4 at estoril qualifiying 6th is a total myth.it is impossible!!!
watch qualifiing videos from 86.the cars had upto 1400hp and half the weight of a s4 and the are designed for circuits
wake up you dreamers
markandrach 5 months ago
@markandrach Actually Cesare Fiorio, Lancia Martini team manager at the time, stated that Lancia and Abarth did some tests at Estoril on a secret proget, the now famous ECV1. It was a lot lighter than the S4 and it had a biturbo engine that had 700-800 hp. I'm not saying it woald have qualified 6th, I'm just saying that the ECV really did some test at Estoril during 1986 Portugal Rally.
rignrolltrucker 4 months ago
@markandrach WHo care how fast they were, modern rally car suck so much... group A was even better than today WRC...
dks11000 4 months ago
Honestly I would have been like,''Fuck this shit.'' and started plowing through all the cones.
FlyingBoxHead 6 months ago
the danger was the safety of the public, rather than the speed of the cars
GothicNight21 6 months ago
Fantastica auto italiana
Ansharzetec1 7 months ago
Delta S4 Grp. B cars had both a turbo and a supercharger working in series. This is the car that ended group B. Spectators were an ongoing problem, but when the Delta S4 caught its stride, several top drivers (and co-drivers) were killed plunging off mountains and really bad PR sounding stuff like that. It's like Walter Rohrl said (albeit about his Audi), "mere thoughts are even to slow for this car..."
AOGDC10 8 months ago
@AOGDC10 It wasn't "several top drivers" were killed, it was 1, and he was a crash or win driver so crashed ALOT! Banning Group B and knocking the WRC back to group A was political. It's the equivalent of the FIA saying to F1 teams they'll be running F3 cars next year, at 6 months notice, after Senna and Ratzenberger died in one weekend at San Remo (which would never happen, of course). The very next year (1987) the FIA banned the world touring car championship during it's first ever season.
tsport100 8 months ago 9
@tsport100
Politic sucks as proven many times but cars matters!!!
Cheers to all petrolheads!!!
wilderNS 6 months ago
@tsport100 dont talk about that crash in 86 if you haven't check the history to see what happened this situation had so much more attached to and it had nothing to do with Henri's style of driving!
WisdomeSage1989 4 months ago
@WisdomeSage1989 Idiots like you are a classic..... I was YOUR AGE and followed the sport closely WHEN IT HAPPENED so I know more about it than you'll ever know ok! Pull your head in.
tsport100 4 months ago
@tsport100 oh yeah?!!!!!!! well,, welll, my dad can kick your dad's ass. rofl
BarryKunz64 2 months ago
@AOGDC10 The biggest problem imo was that there was basicly no regulations for the crowd. Drivers dieing is the part of the racing (I know its sad, but risk is involved no matter what car you race). A simple "no crowd on the outer turn line" rule WOULD save several lives back there. And then maybe group b could still live.
bangomargit 5 months ago
bring group b back!
skin8850 8 months ago
in this car i woulnt want a radio just the sound of the car will be awesome
nohairguysrevenge 8 months ago
scary ass car but I want one
douchetree13 9 months ago
HOLY FUCKING SHIT! LISTEN TO THE GOD TURBO SOUND! I COULD DIE LISTENING TO THIS SHIT
elninokronos3 9 months ago 2
@elninokronos3 uhmm... the noice you hear is the SuperCharger i think.. and maybe the Transmission.
GlennnD 8 months ago
da cagarsi sotto per la strizza
vaibeltra 10 months ago
Learn more about EVs ? no, thanks -_-
Bozzo89ify 11 months ago
Awesome car. Boring looking stage. I know the cones are there to keep the speed down but I'd be one bored spectator.
mrjogray 11 months ago
those cones are friggen retarted
CigaretteRacing219 1 year ago 3
@CigaretteRacing219 yea they were pissing me off too the car couldnt get any speeed
07STiLuke 1 year ago
Oh my frikking gosh, cones in the street? Is that what rallying has become? You don't put cones in front of a group B rally car. Disgraceful. Great vid, though, good interior sound. Too bad he couldn't unleash this monster.
882952 1 year ago 9
@882952 yeah psh haystacks are more wanted!
z400racerr910 1 month ago
porca puttana schifosa ladra lurida lebbrosa quanto cazzo va
vaibeltra 1 year ago
I heard somewhere that this car can do 0-100 in 2.9 seconds on gravel. Sounds impossible but the car is amazingly light.
Crazzy4Macs 1 year ago
which country is this event held in?
Must be a pretty nice event if its worthy of a Lancia s4 or any group B car for that matter!!
cillantro 1 year ago
I don't know why anybody is against the new regulations for 2011. Juha Kankkunen said the cars have simple diffs and no center diff. This means the cars are more likely to go sideways. The new cars are almost as fast as the current cars and will eventually be just as fast as the old WRCars. The new cars have no paddle shift gearboxes as well.
rendezvous65 1 year ago
For next year the FIA is even limiting the amount of turbo pressure a WRCar can have and the cars will have a smaller restrictor. 33mm at 1.5 or 2.5 bar depending on the source. At least they didn't ban turbos. The engines will be smaller but will have to rev at a higher RPM, but I don't think the power will be down by that much.
The FIA even decided to take out the center diff and only use front and rear mechanical diff.
rendezvous65 1 year ago
The "Super Production" version of the WRC mini costs around 345,000 GBP. Thats a package deal wtih an engineer for the first round. Keep in mind that this is not the WRC version of the Mini Countryman. This is the entry level S2000 version which will be a slightly detuned version of the Countryman WRC. The new cars will cost over 350,000 GBP. Even more for the platinum versions.
rendezvous65 1 year ago
weight power ratio is quite nice, i think =)
qettyz 1 year ago
Bloody chicanes
LedSexton 1 year ago
qualche birllo in più no??
pipo14592 1 year ago
The WRC will switch over to 1.6L turbo engines next year on S2000 bodyshells, with some additional enhancements.
rendezvous65 1 year ago
@rendezvous65 ...that sounds like a horrible future. soon theyl ban 4x4 in rallying because ''it lets the car get to dangerous speeds dont dangerous roads'' if history had taken a differant turn by now group s would be running tiny 2.3 20v with twin turbos and supercharged and theyd handle it
ineedajoint 1 year ago
@ineedajoint The WRC has already gone down hill since 2004.
rendezvous65 1 year ago 2
@rendezvous65 That's because Colin McRae 'retired' that year ;)
I agree on going back to the basics is a good thing, rallying should be all about the mechanical grip and the driver's talent, without peddle-shifters and all kind of stupid 'extra' aids. I don't mind the down-sizing, perhaps they could re-use/-develop some of the 80s F1 1.5 Turbo's ...
SKiLLa2007 1 year ago
@SKiLLa2007 No they developed some expensive 1.6T with DI. The chassis itself is based off of Super 2000. Citroen was even allowed to develop a custom engine from scratch. These new cars are still fairly expensive. Now they are around 400-480,000 EUR.
rendezvous65 1 year ago
@ineedajoint No banning 4WD could make it more interesting, Oh well, the new spec is very strict according to Tommi Makinen, but the FIA still manages to make it too expensive. With a kit car spec, anything that isn't banned is allowed. The new cars aren't as complicated, and there is no center diff. Just a mechanical front and rear diff.
rendezvous65 1 year ago
I love to hate this awesome video. He's not even given a chance to unleash 4th gear.
McLarenF1God 1 year ago
fuck those cones. actual group b there was non of that shit
icecoldbrew92 1 year ago
I wish Group B came back. I'd start watching and following WRC again then.
If it comes back it'll be better then watching F1, A1, Indy Car, Nascar or whatever. :P
Though I doubt if it comes back it'll be as good as back then, since they kill everything these days with too much regulations. :(
LogiForce86 1 year ago 5
fuckin cone chicanes ruin this whole vid
Jupe1873 1 year ago
This could have been so much fun, especially for the driver. You're driving such a beast, you got nice straights & turns. So what is with the f*ck*ng cones. It`s like a 50Mph speed limit on the finishing straight on F1 circuits.
dragi0 1 year ago
Juha Kankkunen said that a modern WRCar is slower than a Group B car, but the WRCar can take low speed corners much faster than a Group B car ever will, due to the technology that a modern WRCar has.
Next year, the current WRCars will be replaced with a newer car based on the S2000 rules, but will have a 1.6L Turbocharged 4 cylinder, with Direct Injection. Gerard Quinn said the 1.6T make similar power compared to the 2.0T's current used in the WRC.
rendezvous65 1 year ago
70 rear / 30 front. best of both!
avand18 1 year ago
4WD italian fantastic car!!!
LoSte1991 1 year ago
this is 4 wheel drive the first 4 wheel drive delta ever
josephroughan 1 year ago
These will never ever be beaten.... Modern spec cars can never compete, it's one reason why they banned it 600hp in a car less then 1000kg in a era were safety wasn't as gay as it is now... The end was always going to come bless Henri toivonen and serge cresto, that's what finished group b.
I wish I was alive to see it, rallying is not an wont ever be as good as the 80s era
7xToM 1 year ago
Bullshit cones ... Let her stretch her legs!!
pablof59 1 year ago
give me a modern wrc impreza,much quicker
markandrach 1 year ago
@markandrach only on a very winding track, else you will always see the S4 tail.
pablof59 1 year ago
@markandrach Sad. :(
Maelstrom787 1 year ago
@Maelstrom787 sad but true :-)
markandrach 1 year ago
che mezzo! (y)
tiasigno 1 year ago
That wrong turn probably cost him big... 1:37
tstewart01 1 year ago
0-62 2.3 sec
Astartas 1 year ago
@Astartas i heard that was the time on gravel
deejaykay2345 1 year ago
superdupercharged :P
slydubz 1 year ago
@justforever96
Maybe steering was on left because only british are driving on "wrong" side in Europe...
late129 1 year ago 3
I don't know why I never thought of it before, but why are Group B cars left-hand steer? I thought Germany was the only European country that had left-handed steering, and everywhere else was all backwards like those zany Brits. ;)
justforever96 1 year ago
Now the 2011 WRCars will be "loosely" based on s2000 shells. They'll have a 1.6T and 4WD. The FIA has now decided to bring back the paddle shift gearboxes and now water cooled calipers are now back in the WRC.
rendezvous65 1 year ago
they drive proper slowly in corners compared to modern cars but the acceleration leaving the corner...... wow!!
flamejame 1 year ago
It might look "proper slow", but with a 200 BHP power advantage, this car would wipe the floor with any modern World Rally Car. Group B was awesome, but too powerful.
RON240R 1 year ago
@RON240R
belive me i kno they are fast and i love themm
but i was just saying they slow down
massivly in the corners which is WHY
modern cars get near the same times
flamejame 1 year ago
i found the pylons starcaft says you need
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Aahwanith 1 year ago
The new WRCars in 2011 will have a 1.6T producing around 300 HP. They will also be boost limited to 2.5 bar and they'll use a 33mm restrictor. The same size restrictor as Group N4. The new cars will be based on S2000 chassis but won't have that 2.0L NA engine. Of course the FIA wants all cars to have a control box to make sure teams aren't cheating. I'm sure within 5 to 10 years the new WRCars will be just as fast as the old ones. The old ones are the current ones right now.
rendezvous65 2 years ago
i had to stop watching by the time he reached the 12th cone chicane :| wtf
cheanchay 2 years ago
What a trash of stupid cone-chicanes...
luisper74 2 years ago 131
@luisper74 is slalom session -.-
AlexanderMennucci 1 year ago
fantastic, can any rally car today
keep up
robertydonnan 2 years ago
When men drove monsters...
pimpedvw 2 years ago 6
@pimpedvw When monsters were still build and races weren't ruined by too much idiotic rules.
LogiForce86 2 years ago
Amen brotha.
pimpedvw 2 years ago
Engine Electronics 3-4 years after the death of group B allowed Group A to produce 100f lbs more torque 2000rpm lower, they also worked to a lower overall weight, we also had crude 4 wheel drive, non adjustable dampers and no electronic diffs but what we did have were drivers capable of manhandling the above and 600 BHP, even today in a straight line the S1 can hit 100mph in 6 seconds with 125mph gearing 26 years after launch and lets see if anyone remebers the C4 or Focus in 25 years time!
paultatters 2 years ago 5
Markandrach
We ran an Audi E2 with an official 580BHP around the Silverstone short circuit in 2002 and it was 1.1s slower than the Jordan F1 car, both were driven by M Brundle who could not believe the grunt from the 5 cylinder engine!, it took 5 years not 2 for Group A to run similar times to Group B mainly because of MASSIVE suspension inprovements, tyre improvements quickly followed.
paultatters 2 years ago 2
when will people realise that it is a myth that this car would have qulified 6th on the grid in portugal in the f1 race.if you dont believe me watch video from the 80's of the 1400 hp gp cars in qualifiing trim.if you still dont believe me carry on dreaming.
also within 2 years the newly formed gp a rally cars were betteringthe times of the old gp b.
markandrach 2 years ago 2
damn! 80s race cars are just insane, i mean, there were large turbos on the f1 cars and they had these as well :)
JL3Wind 2 years ago 3
these monsters were better than the modern shit and they banned it because of stupid retarded spectators
kubampower 2 years ago 108
@kubampower
That was one reason, the other reason: It was at the end undriveable, to fast and to dangerous for the drivers.
Cicano83 1 year ago
@kubampower it wasnt because of the spectators, it was toivonen's fatal crash with sergio cresto
egnw0 1 year ago 3
@kubampower I thought they banned Group B cause Henri Toivonen and his co-pilot Cristo got burned to death in a mysterious accident. Spectators were part of the "problem" too, but it was the crash that sealed the deal, and the pres of the FIA banned a few hours after the accident.
actionjackson9000 1 year ago
@actionjackson9000 The FIA didn't ban F1 cars and make the 1995 Grand Prix World Championship for F3 cars because Aytron Senna died.
Group B was a huge threat to F1 in the 80s and the FIA were looking for any reason to kill it.
tsport100 1 year ago 5
@kubampower I agree but apart from the spectators the drivers themsleves caused the end of the Group B era..Their hands were shaking after each race and their body was under pressure and there were many fatal accidents..
TheRiverman85 1 year ago
@kubampower The main trouble here is that stupid retarded spectators weren't banned...
C7H042 11 months ago
@kubampower You are being kind of illogical
jogga123 11 months ago
@kubampower That and the fact that they kept exploding their drivers...
TheSqeeek 9 months ago
@kubampower they canceled it because of many deaths inc. spectators and drivers!! rsp.
elvisTDI 9 months ago
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@kubampower You dont know what you're talking about.
derbigpr500 5 months ago
it must have been scary to drive the delta s4
Kabaampje444 2 years ago
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@Kabaampje444 -"it must have been scary to drive the delta s4"
Depends on how you define "scary"! Some people would call skydiving scary. Some people would call driving a Group B car 120mph on a cow-path scary. I call it "fun"! =D But I AM insane, so you should take that into account. ;)
justforever96 1 year ago
The slalom thing is boooring
amrabas2007 2 years ago 7
love to see this race a veyron on tarmac :D
2otalH4VOC 2 years ago
its 2.3 seconds on GRAVEL, let alone tarmac :) beast of a car
tomc247 2 years ago 5
2.3 sullo sterrato*...sta scritto su wikipedia
DJMALVOSCHEE 2 years ago
This twin-charged engine noise gave me a serious headache, but I love that headache.
GeeFunk84 2 years ago
i love this car i love all the group b rally cars. my favourite are peugeot 205 t16 and audi quattro
bimonTheDrifter 2 years ago
i think they put cones there to slow the car down so that the watcing areas after it would see and hear as it starts to accelerate again :).. otherwise it would just go WOOOM pass by and you see like second or so :D
tomblord12 2 years ago
Thats to slow the cars down for driver safety more than anything. That car could probably have gone 140+ through those roads.
Drak0nian 2 years ago 5
why they put cones everywhere? expecting some speed!
ingrowntoenailman 2 years ago
ストレスたまるコースやね。
ytzero1 2 years ago 3
yeah man, I agree :)
thakrak 2 years ago
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tsuchiya can do better
keeevan 2 years ago
That was a stage designed by BRAKE and Telford Council
TheKiteless 2 years ago
sorry man but I read that the project of suzuki is 1996... the project of delta s4 is 1984...
nicolabellissimo 2 years ago
amazing car. pity about the stupid stage with all the slaloms
tuanageF 2 years ago 7
I know, really started to get on my nerves. No use in having 0-60 in 2.5 if the fastest you can reach is 30.
Jacklewisbarclay 2 years ago
As quick as a Veyron off the line and the manueverability of a Miata at LEAST, not to mention it maintains this off-road. Not fucking bad for an early 80s car.
If only their safety advancements had kept up as much as the performance...
Barcode711 2 years ago
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escudo&s1 quattro is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaasters hehe
TruGanjaMan07 2 years ago
Nessuna macchina somiglia alla Delta S4.
Astartas 2 years ago 2
oh my god... like the bugatti veyron!!
papposupercarwatcher 2 years ago
Did these cars have AWD, or just RWD?
justforever96 2 years ago
AWD
tsport100 2 years ago 4
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@tsport100 this car was actually rear wheel drive. lancia didn't make 4wd until the delta integrale. I think.
DoctorNumber46 1 year ago
@DoctorNumber46 Shows how little you know. A group B Lancia Delta S4 is most definitely 4WD. The 037 was RWD.
tsport100 1 year ago 27
@tsport100 yeah I looked it up after I said that and you were right. I seem to remember hearing about it in some old coverage of the 86 Monte Carlo Rally though, and it really confused me, so now I get it haha
DoctorNumber46 1 year ago
@tsport100 yeh groub b was all about 4WD how do u think Audi got caught up b othe manufacturures
Coreytherocker 1 year ago
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tashiusclay 1 year ago
@tsport100 who knows so little about the greatest rally cars of all time??
bobbj77 1 year ago
@DoctorNumber46 lol seriously. if you're gonna call someone out at least have your shit right.
DaveyyLovee 1 year ago
All of the major Group B cars except for the Lancia 037 were all four wheel drive.
Callum027 2 years ago
don't forget the Opel Manta and the Opel Ascona ;)
UBIQUEROL 2 years ago
AWD
Rik1pk 2 years ago
@justforever96 Tard
TheEnduroExpert 1 year ago
@TheEnduroExpert - Tard? For what? I didn't know anything about Group B cars 6 months ago, so I asked. And now I do know, and I'm glad for it. So, to paraphrase my American Redneck neighbors, "Go Fuck Yerself, Bud."
justforever96 1 year ago
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this car sucks becouse is lancia and is italian
spikki20 2 years ago
You know the Lancia Delta S4 was probably the fastest Group B car EVER, with 0-60 in 2.3 seconds on gravel? 550hp in a 890kg car, go figure. And all this in 1984! All of the Group B cars are astonishing achievements, but the Lancia Delta S4 most of all, probably.
Callum027 2 years ago 8
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suzuki escudo is faster!!!!!!
spikki20 2 years ago
LOOL "suzuki escudo"? ahahhahahahaha this is a real rally car not gran turismo BIG IDIOT; go back 2 play whit ur stupid game buffoon
1MaDSkG 2 years ago 3
actually there is a real Suzuki Escudo pikes peak car just like in the gran turismo driven by "monster" Tajima. one of the fastest pikes peak cars ever!! Look it up.
ilsot1 2 years ago
y i know but u can't compare the suzuki escudo whit the fastest group B rally car asd...
1MaDSkG 2 years ago
True!!
ilsot1 2 years ago
You just embarrased yourself.
VonVoltage 2 years ago
LOL y sure; now stfu u're annoying
1MaDSkG 2 years ago
yeah it made a spectacular firebomb, fantastic idea putting petrol tanks around the engine.
hogalog 2 years ago
The cones SUCKS....
MPZRACEVIDEO 2 years ago 10
Without those cones, these cars wouldn't be allowed to race, they're so fast - I'd rather the cones be there than not at all
kevatcrewe 2 years ago
lancia s4 tiger but cones?
giabelli 2 years ago
I want to own one of these one day. One that is suitable for road car registration in Finland. Maybe 280-300hp will do...
Jaska8000 2 years ago
TOO MANY FUCKING CONES!!!
Slmjm884 2 years ago 8
lol WORD
fatleader 2 years ago
too much chicanes ... :S
oOoironhideoOo 2 years ago 2
Sound is incredibily particular, double stage charging sistem in a race car makes the charger and turbocharger noises pretty predominant :D:D:D
Sembee83 2 years ago
where did u find it it was twin charged (turbo + super) and 5 starz! nice video
imstm 2 years ago
With all the cone dodging, makes this is f-ing boring....
pjs3269 2 years ago
whats with the cones?
plecmen555 2 years ago
to keep the speed dwn im guessing
gozza18 2 years ago
They had to keep the speed down. Group B rally cars were just too powerfull and fast for roads like this.
Pujsiii 2 years ago
is there a co pilot?
jordfb 2 years ago
no this is a hillclimb
gozza18 2 years ago
more cones please!
mbdsgn 2 years ago 2
crazy son off a biach
anatoli000 2 years ago
answome car!!
the cones shouldn´t be there it cuts all speed
TheVortex13 2 years ago 2
don't get me wrong, i love this car & rally. But what's up with all these cones in this stage/hillclimb? They suck!!
piraatbier 2 years ago