MF Grimm speaks on MF Doom [2004]

[SvItoJ]

ayo nikka doom from england ...

[Skellsies]

Do you remember him as Zev Love X from KMD?

[JesseJurassic420]

hahahaha i see fletcher on every doom video

[asdertert12345]

whats the beat that cuts on at :41

[TBVnBIX]

@asdertert12345 Its Camphor from DOOM's Special Herbs

[MachinGunFunk13]

@asdertert12345 Can't stop me now-RZA.

[dudewhyfi]

metal face doom and mad flows grimm legends man

[Drew5621]

Get that fuck out of here sayin Doom is your cousin I know you wanna feel special but I dont give a fuck if he is your cousin or not! Mf Doom just got Mad Flows!!!

[rahsun29]

@metalfaceking Yo the beef ain't over famo. Doom is my cousin and trust me he don't fuck w sun word up. No disrespect to u dude!

[MetalFaceKing17]

THE BEEF IS OVER ... so stop dick riding !!!!!

[Breadtango]

Mf devil rip mf doom

[QuiksilveRXx24]

Poison Pen lmfao

[WuTang069]

mad flow grimm

[arbeitslos123456]

what song is played at 0:50 ??

[801bombartist]

mf grimm is the best mc of ALL time.

[FreestyleFletcher]

@801bombartist he's def better than doom's sloppy ass.

[FreestyleFIetcher]

FAG SWAG!!!!

[FreestyleFletcher]

@FreestyleFIetcher <FAKE FLETCH!

[515sbest]

Yeah

Percey aka Grimmm

What up yo

S the Best

Hope all is well..

We

[ganjakru1]

POISON PEN

[flmae46]

How come only white kids appreciate real hiphop?



[funkapotamus1]

@flmae46 gtfoh

HIPHOP KNOWS NO COLOUR just becuase you see mainly white kids at a show doesnt mean ONLY white kids appreciate real HIPHOP

i can make assumptions too why to white kids get there mommy and daddy to buy them "real" HIPHOP records and tickets to go to shows.

[PedestrianDIVERSION]

Crowd full of whiteboys

[Eman9x1x2]

@PedestrianDIVERSION word thats what i was thinkin'

its like all the non-white dont want to hear this...

[CorkySherman]

Grimm is too legit.. GRAND MASTER GRIMM REAPER!

[13sparkz]

MF DOOM and MF GRIMM are both two of the best if not the best emcees to touch the MIC  there approaches bring a vibe to there music long live two legends i will always remember much love to both them hope they can collaborate again!

[FreestyleFletcher]

again. doom is shit.

[sonofbrazil]

@FreestyleFletcher your mum sucks your dick

[FreestyleFletcher]

doomilazy fuckin sucks!

[basementrat]

@FreestyleFletcher HEY FREESTYLE FELCHER GIVE UP ATTACKING DOOM CAUSE I WILL TROLL YOU TILL THE END OF TIME

[senatorkenator]

Poison Pen is the first dude.

[mekosilvar]

DAM... when MF GRIMM SPEAK'S.ahhhhhhh you know it's him cause that nigga sounds just like the records..that early stuff...I dont care happened between them..just good to see them together..why is dude in a chair..

[beertron7]

@mekosilvar He was shot and subsequently paralyzed. Read up on his life story if you get a chance, very interesting.

[sonofbrazil]

doom's better than grimm that flow he has is da shiiiiit

[popp1nbottlez]

poizon pen wow. dude isn't just that fat guy hosting battles.

[msnikish]

@popp1nbottlez didnt he do some shit wiht NEMS?????

[Padooshka]

Doom's flow is overrated. It sounds like a lot of other guys flows, and his writing isnt that good. I hate to hate, but doom is overrated.

[SuccessIsMyDestiny]

@Padooshka go listen to the Madvillainy album and try tell me DOOM's writing "isn't that good"...

[ruggid11]

@SuccessIsMyDestiny please please can we team up and fuck up padooshka

[itsdbkyall]

@SuccessIsMyDestiny mad villany is my fav doom album and the beats are ridiculous!

[JDev82]

@SuccessIsMyDestiny compared to real MC's (Rakim, Kool G Rap, Mos Def, Common, Prodigy, Papoose, Jadakiss)

yeah, no matter how many underground legends you pile on a MF Doom collaboration, hes still not that good at what he does.

[TheeAuracle]

@JDev82 fagget...

[hydroponicnuggz420]

@JDev82 half the ppl you just named got mad respect for DOOM. theres a video on youtube with mos breakin down his rhymes. he even goes so far as to say he got a mil on doom over wayne (which aint sayin much). Supa-villains wouldnt be villains without haters i guess though

[JDev82]

@hydroponicnuggz420 im sure mad people got respect for doom, doesnt validate him as an artist. he doesnt rhyme that well, and hes lazy as shit

[JDev82]

@hydroponicnuggz420 im sure mad people got respect for doom, doesnt validate him as an artist. he doesnt rhyme that well, and hes lazy as shit. but hey, thats my opinion, i just dont fucks with his music, its not my thing. all power to those who get enjoyment out of dudes tunes.

[Apoll0Spade]

@SuccessIsMyDestiny Doom doesn't have his passion...his anguish....its like comparing David Ruffin to Dennis Edwards....the technicality is there...but not the original pain...the belief...the sincere sadness...

[SubRosaStructure]

Don't make im catch a seizure!

[scruffyrunkin]

this is the absolute realness!!!...real real real real hip hop till i fuckin die!!!!..to hell with jayz emenem lil wayne and all them other radio shit artists who sell words for ass

[Ril3yIzBac]

MF Grimm got shot like 13 times, he was in a coma and was deaf, blind, and paraylzed. It look him a week to see and hear again but never was able to walk. His friend J. Black was killed the same night, lucky Grimm was in the passesnger seat.

[AfrikanGod1]

@Ril3yIzBac he will be like that for ever'???

[bigddagenius]

mf grimm used to be on sesame street if any of y'all didnt know in the 70's. i was just like wow.

[Glitch667]

Nice toothpick.

For anyone who missed it, Grimm talks about Doom at 0:30.

[cheddab0b]

what happened to mf grimm to put him in tht wheel chair?

[Relithraxas]

@cheddab0b HE GOT SHOT MORE TIMES THAN THAT HALF DOLLA NIGGA

[Quake2815]

The Czars is in the back.

[PreparationA]

waiiiiiiiiiiit! Grimm did not speak about how he felt about Daniel Dumile (DOOM) for any ignorant fans who don't know his name.

They got into a fight right? I wanna know how they feel about each other... didn't Doom screw over Grimm?

[msnikish]

@PreparationA grimm did say something like that in an interview, i cant remember specifics, grimm wrote a graphic novel too i think about his life, i know he in it, look it up, i gonna try and track it down and cop it, i heard about it a few years back

[ILLCRILLKILLER]

Whats the name of the song when his on stage yo.

[Seenesoust]

@ILLCRILLKILLER King Geedorah - The Fine Print

[XxN1GHTSURF3RxX]

@ILLCRILLKILLER its on his King Geedorah album its called The Fine Print

[JEYROCA1]

i went to d.u.b deep urban breaks for new years n' doom was on the flyer, was like 20 mins. late n' fake like it was him then when he did show he got hit i the head with a beer bottle from the crowd

[quartoGBbrooklyn]

this is when doom actually did his own shows

[thebeezneezyo]

fuck doom for faking every show Ive seen him @

[SLORRAbeats]

what do you mean by faking shows

[bigddagenius]

he has fakes show up and do it for him

[dirtysirus]

how do u know?

[bigddagenius]

its up on youtube ppl complaining and shit about doom sending imposters out to perform instead of him

[dirtysirus]

if that's true then thats fucking outrageous

[bigddagenius]

he does either that or he shows up and hes there for like a hour and leaves

[msnikish]

@bigddagenius what you mean? perform??? or just show up somehwere,? how you know ? where you heard about this? that dont sound right man, but i dunno , if that true that fucked up, i cant picture him doing that on rilsnil

[bigddagenius]

@msnikish yeah, kind of both. he sends out imposters to perform or like what happened once, he had mos def perform for 75% of the show, he came out, and did a 4 song set then left. and some shows like that are on youtube.

[msnikish]

@bigddagenius damn dont people get outraged over this??? if they pay to see a doom show and its not him???what part of the game is that???

[bigddagenius]

@msnikish of course they do. but as DOOM said in one beer:

"he plot shows like robberies/in and out 1,2,3 nobodys pleased"

its the people who pays to go to the show loss. DOOM probably knew most people didnt catch it or didnt care and took advantage of it.

[UCzDwella201]

u dont need to see him live just listen to the words...his a madvillian...lol

[converse27]

You should have expected so much from the super-villian.... he works in mysterious ways.. hes a studio artist anyway, not a hyped out image

[420fmx]

@converse27 he's a studio pussy,

Way better mc's out there that can rock a mic.

[Vance12901]

@420fmx

show me



[Kreugerkidd1984]

poison pen, repping doom..... cha know!

[pEGiOnBoI]

too many white people in the crowd

[smores4breakfast]

I always thought that that was kinda peculiar. I'm not saying that I think there's "too many" but there always does seem to be...like...an abundance of the palefaces at his shows. I mean, I personally believe hip hop doesn't necessarily have a race, or belongs to a certain group of people, but the whole front audience is...reflecting alot of light. lol. The stage is extra bright.

[johnnymfapplecore]

MF Doom has a fan base of mostly "pale faced" stoners, MF Grimm is a comic book geek. Call it a generalization, but most comic book geeks are "pale faces," no?

[smores4breakfast]

that's true

[the3letterz]

@johnnymfapplecore so the answer to the LSAT and SAT question is: MF Grimm is a fan of MF Doom. But probably not because of the use of the words "most" and "mostly". ;) lol

[d2thh725]

stop calling white people pale faces

[johnnymfapplecore]

@d2thh725 I was quoting someone, and in fact, white myself.

[d2thh725]

ya i know but u still sounded like an idiot. it was more of a general message.

[vaginacockalitis]

@d2thh725 Yeah "we all the same/no callin' names"

Besides Chalkie and Cracker are perfectly good substitutes.

BuuuuT only use to make fun of redrecks/racists/white people in power.

[czaghost]

just look at the crowd dude

[txt2k3]

hahaha I know Ive never met a black person that likes DOOM.

[ASFMG2]

fuck uf yow crack heat

DOOM IS THE BIGGEST MAN your just wack hahahaha

[txt2k3]

You fuckin dumb ass, I wasn't talking about DOOM you idiot. Don't assume shit

[jamakabi89]

@txt2k3 im black doom is heavy

[musicmongo69]

fat ass doom! XD got the same jersey.. but 3 times smaller XD

[knop95]

Grimm Reaper? nice nickname, but Doom is a better nick imo. and that mask, BALLIIINNN!!!!

[JusBeCuzz]

Grimm Reaper used to be MF Grimm's name back in 1994 when he came out with a 12".

[quartoGBbrooklyn]

yoo would you know if doom and grimm are still beefing?

[wudthedamaja]

@knop95 Grimm gave MF Doom his name. Grimm was the original Metalface.

[guerilla619]

@wudthedamaja metal fingers

[bigVC25]

@knop95 right, but Grimm doesnt give a fuck about his outer style, thats why hes just plain better. Personally when I see a rapper I want to hear his raps rather than talk about his clothes, so I choose Mad Flows over Metal Face. But if you like pretty shit thats your choice

[tehgreatist]

@bigVC25 what? you sound confused man.. when the fuck has DOOM ever talked about his clothes?

[bigVC25]

@tehgreatist i know doom has never talked about his clothes. But he spits really deep shit at times, but sometimes he just describes his character and that's it. And his character was made so that his outer appearance would make you think "now that rapper is different and interesting". But grimm doesnt need that. Thats what I was trying to say.

But now about the clothes shit I wasnt talking about doom but broadly about the many rappers who want to LOOK good instead of just SOUNDING good...

[bigVC25]

@tehgreatist dont get me wrong either i like doom, hes waaaay better than many of the rappers today, but grimm just looks and sounds truer, when he's on the mic he's serious every time, because hes stays himself and he says what he feels.

[tehgreatist]

@bigVC25 grimm is a lot more serious. both are great artists. you just sparked my attention with the "doom talks about pretty shit". thats not really what doom talks about at all... hes not as serious as grimm, sure, but it sounds like youre lumping him in with a lot of people he doesnt deserve to be included with. doom is far from a shallow bling rapper

[bigVC25]

@tehgreatist Yeah well he does talk about pretty shit, just read the lyrics. But thats not his main thing though thats for sure, and thats why I like him. And don't get me wrong, I don't think doom is shallow, I mean, his shit is great. Maybe I went too far, Ill give you that, but the fact that hes keeping himself in this invented persona all the time kinda bugs me you know what I mean? Sometimes I dont wanna hear his superhero&hoe stories, I wanna hear about that guy from KMD! But i do get you.

[tehgreatist]

@bigVC25 i hear you on that stuff, and there are actually rumors of another "KMD" album in the works, but i still dont know what youre talking about when you say he rhymes about pretty shit, what song are you talking about? there arent many. i enjoy dooms versatility as an artist, i see it both ways because i love the kmd stuff as well as his newer shit, and some of his viktor vaughn shit is just so lyrically dirty

[bigVC25]

@tehgreatist that would be crazy... and like i said he doesn't talk MUCH about this shit but he does, for example hoe cakes or angels, and still i didnt listen to all his songs just most of them. All im trying to say is, even though hes a great artist, he does sometimes slide into that shit. But like is said if it was his main thing I wouldnt even listen to him, and that isnt the case. its just that id like him to be a bit more serious at times

[tehgreatist]

@bigVC25 yeah but thats kinda hypocritical man, grimm does some of that shit too. take "money on my brain" from kool g raps album 4,5,6 for exampe, or more recenty, "my house", from grimms gingerbread album. (i love both these songs, dont get the wrong idea, just pointing something out)

[bigVC25]

@tehgreatist true that, but i dunno, like i told you, dooms always behind this persona so hes being himself, but real different at the same time if you see what i mean. whereas with grimm you know its him everytime, thats why i like him better, thats all.

[tehgreatist]

@bigVC25 yeah i understand what youre saying, i just wanted to correct what you said about doom rapping about "pretty" shit. ive listened to just about every one of his songs and dont agree with that

[mekone54]

i remember rocking mf grimm when he was the grimm reaper and to boot mos def was there at that show with a shriners hat lol

[mcpresso]

bitta wu in the back ground at da start...doom da shite

[BigL721]

@mcpresso RZA -cant stop me now. you caught that too eh.

[mcpresso]

yeah mayne for shur!!!

[EZP]

it's the same sample, but it's actually the beat of king geedorah (a.k.a mf doom's) song anti-matter

[Benjahmmin]

grimm is a wise man but the others......just stereotypical niggas!!!!!

[ConcaCon]

Back when it all was good between them. Shame what happened, man.

[getyoasshome]

they beefin?? thats a shame

[quartoGBbrooklyn]

they had beef after this i think

[djdanieljohn]

what song is he playing here live???? RSVP!!

[CaponeKing]

the final print King Geedorah

[Errol718]

@ CaponeKing: It's called "The Fine Print" not the "Final" print.

[MeegoNappz]

MF the Mutha fucking DOOM!! Bigs up to MF GRIM!! yall da Illest!!

/watch?v=hFI4icNUsLI

[JusBeCuzz]

it's not a dilla beat

its one of the metal fingerz beats

[durtyEmpire]

@JusBeCuzz hot beat tho....

[JusBeCuzz]

it's not a dilla beat

its one of the metal fingerz beats

[OneNationFunkHipHop]

RESPECT

[bluebaron12]

what is the name of the song in the background around 40-58 seconds?

[dingles4breakfast]

GRIMM reminds me of that nigga in the wheelchair on OZ, just without the dreads.

[LittleCR]

Respect a true mic genius!

[Dopeness805]

It's good news to hear DOOM and Grim are cool with each other again.

[DjTonino]

doom are my favorite!

[stapleboy7]

A if its no too much trouble can you upload the whole tour from mm.food that came with the dvd

[joas2716]

he raps like i think

[cdrumz]

I THOUGHT DAT WAS POISON PEN

[Symbiot99]

Poison Pen is the one who starts the video, but Grimm is the one in the wheelchair.

[cdrumz]

OH AIGHT...

[elephantwomen]

alright i just found out he was released in 03 my bad lol

[elephantwomen]

yooo correct me...i know im wrong but i thought grimm was locked up for life???someone give me the abcs on this...

[marijuanaquefumar]

He was suppose to be in jail for 25 to life but his sentence got reduced to 3 or 4 years.

[thecall4]

what did he do?

[marijuanaquefumar]

MF GRIMM: It started out Attempted Murder but I beat it. They got me on Conspiracy (narcotics) and got life on the back."

[beertron7]

@elephantwomen He appealed and beat the case. It's on Wikipedia if you want more details.

[InSyhte]

A real man will always settle his differences...

[TTAM27hipHOP]

why did they start beefing in the first place? i knew that they werent cool for a bit, but i could never figure out wat happened

[502b420k]

doom dissed grimm on El Chupa Nibre off the DangerDOOM cd

[stapleboy7]

how did he diss him?

[saxmanmax]

"midgets into crunk"

dissin monster island czars

[stapleboy7]

Oh I didnt kno Grimm was in Monsta Island Czard

[JusBeCuzz]

MF Grimm was the one that created The Monsta Island Czars. He doesn't appear on the albums though, so you probably wouldn't know he was in it.

[KingHaterDunSun]

It"s good to c that peeps can fight and then still be cool later in life...grown man shit right dar sun!!!!!!

[nslaven]

this was before the beef no?

[infamuzblayze]

i like when they be doin that hardcore shit i mostly like the more darker songs by DOOM like Rap Ambition And Thom Yorke its on my page also but i hear voice part 1 n 2 was so coldd !

[nikitacid]

mf grimm is the man.

[kburns2406]

Hey thanks for sharing this video with me! I appreciate it!

[roboflamingo]

A beautiful thing. Wish they were still cool

[plasmasnake1]

mf grimm said on his blog recently that they were cool again

[streetsweeper06]

yo, as a big grimm fan, can u do me a favor and send me a link to his blog? maybe the one that siad they were cool again? thanks man