Outside Jazz Licks Tips

[nachocdp]

this gave me an introduction to fusion, a great class, simple idea that sounds great, thank you very very much!

[Wallimann]

@nachocdp Thank you!

[MrMjp58]

Great idea - and beautiful, sensitive playing.

[Wallimann]

@MrMjp58 Thanks so much!

[Modes9]

Triads, arpeggios, and pentatonics can be used to generate a lot of great outside melodies. The listener can follow them because they're familiar, but you're placing them in an unfamiliar context. The late Michael Brecker and Jerry Bergonzi are great at using them.

[mmmrbbb]

bloody genius!

[Wallimann]

@mmmrbbb Glad you liked this!

[SmokescreenAbyss]

Also, you could try to play diminished runs and triads inside a whole tone scale. It's really easy to play outside then. Great video :D

[Wallimann]

@SmokescreenAbyss Great suggestion!

[eddieisfiction]

@SmokescreenAbyss i like to take any shape that could be made in key, and then descend or ascend. and i mean any shape. usually 2-4 notes is per shape works.

also instead of where theres a drum fill... but in between as long as its on beat, and as long as you dont remain outside for long.

[MrCockSlut]

keep clicking 2.41

[Wizaldinho]

@MrCockSlut da da da da da dagada da da da da haha

[verbotenco]

I like the cleaner, groomed look ;) I thought I came across another jazz head.

[MrCockSlut]

@verbotenco hey who groomed the cleaner?

[highintel]

That helps! Thank you! 

[Wallimann]

@highintel Thanks for watching!

[NoreroPaiva]

cool lesson Thanx... i dont speak english well... so. i see guthrie govans solos... i dont understand anything, hahaha i play dorian and pentatonic blues licks and impro. but when i use outside notes.. or half step pentatonic up or down (moving all the box for a short time) or at drum fill .. sounds not good... so im tryin to find short licks... again thanx for the video... keep rockin

[Wallimann]

@NoreroPaiva Thanks man, I'm glad this is helping!

[burtonbro417]

@Wallimann your videos are amazing. i just came across them while searching for the tc electronic flashback. i love fusion and jazz and man you just brightened my day

[Wallimann]

@burtonbro417 Thank you so much!!!

[LJCTalman]

Awesomeeee

[Wallimann]

@LJCTalman Thanks for watching!

[breadfan17]

GREAT MAN GRETTING FROM PERU :)

[Wallimann]

@breadfan17 Thank you so much!

[reload4]

This is by far the best advice I've ever got to play outsinde. Perfectly explained!!! The thing with the drum was defenetly the key, Simply great.

[Wallimann]

@reload4 Thanks so much man! :-)

[effectinator]

Hi Dave

Very easy to understand, your teaching technique opens up the brain in a ....."oh that's how to do it" sort of way. Great. Are you using the Eleven Rack by the way? sounds very natural

Excellent.

[Wallimann]

@effectinator Thanks a lot man!

Yeah, that's the Eleven Rack. :-)

[kyelsew]

Thanks! Can you do more videos that help to get that outside sound? I'm currently studying Jazz and would like to know more "tricks".

[Wallimann]

@kyelsew Sure! :-)

[ifightaliens]

Man, I've been playing for thirteen years. I'm always trying to learn something new. The drum analogy was probably one of the best things I've heard in a while.

[Wallimann]

@ifightaliens Cool! I'm glad you liked this! :-)

[KazKylheku]

Hey Wallimann. Check out "Beyond the 7th Galaxy" (Chick Corea, Return to Forever).

E.g. watch?v=3KpMIp_GsRQ

It starts with a figure based on chromatically sliding a three-note chord arpeggio. You can see why I was reminded of that!

I think that tune may have been written by the drummer, Lenny White.

[Wallimann]

@KazKylheku Yeah man, That's a great tune!

[KazKylheku]

@Wallimann Here is something you would might dig: watch?v=syhdQ6YiIO0

Cheers ...

[KazKylheku]

Reminds me of a Greg Howe video I saw where he also explains "inside versus outside" (in the scale versus out).

[KazKylheku]

Reminds me of a Greg Howe video I saw where he also explains "inside versus outside" (in the scale versus out).

[Wallimann]

@KazKylheku Yeah, I saw that. It was an awesome video!

[MuratCandogan]

Now stones are on their places. thx m8

[Wallimann]

@MuratCandogan It's my pleasure buddy! :-)

[martifingers]

This feels a bit like a comjurer giving away the trick... but it's very cool for you to do it.

[Wallimann]

@martifingers Hehe! Thanks for watching!

[liamzuid]

2:08

No mean to be a dick but that isn't almost a chord it's actually a triad, just play an random E shape you will notice those 3 notes.

And on other strings they have names too: on the 6 5 4 augumented,5 4 3 augumented too 4 3 2 major 3 2 1 minor.

Sorry to be such a dick about it.

[Wallimann]

@liamzuid No problem, you are absolutely right! Just doesn't really is useful to use that fact when phrasing out though... :-)

[TrippyTheShroom]

@Wallimann Hello, i was wondering...are Parker guitars any good? They seem amazing, but i've never tried them out

[CannibalZombieKiller]

Cool I will try that :)

[MatsDagerlind]

Nice trick to sound more advanced than you really are. Regarding the backing tracks, it would be nice to have a small pdf with the chords (and perhaps also the voicings) used written out, especially when you pay money for them.

[Wallimann]

@MatsDagerlind Thanks!

Eventually I would like to add that, but it would make the price higher which can be a problem for some...

[TenhoMeideia]

That IS how it is done.

[IzzacV]

Thanks!!! Great tip!



[finners007]

I just noticed I use outside notes accidentally and they work. Thanks David for me not being the only one!

[luvmestrat]

Excellent idea.. and even better execution Sir! Respect! :)

[Wallimann]

@luvmestrat Thanks!

[NickSandt]

That's awesome brother!

[SjPedro]

Very cool idea.... Thanks for that great tip

[anshumanchaube95]

Hey David, when you write a backing track do you expect people to play along it in a certain way? I mean when you wrote that drum roll for "Manhattan Jazz", did you expect people to do that "play outside" thingy?

[Wallimann]

@anshumanchaube95 No, I didn't necessarily. That's just what I would play, but not necessarily all the time. :-)

[Darkaileron]

Great lesson! I've been wanting to work on my outside play for a while now and this should really help me out.

[Wallimann]

@Darkaileron Thanks!

[Account3of7]

Insta-subscribe!

[Wallimann]

@Account3of7 Thanks a lot!

[sarinapaparone]

Excellent lesson.

[Wallimann]

@sarinapaparone Thanks a lot, I'm glad you enjoy this!

[guitarczar15]

dave is a great guitar teacher and all around good guy...

[Wallimann]

@guitarczar15 Oh man, thank you!

[metalalvich]

thanks 4 the vid

[Wallimann]

@metalalvich Thanks for watching!

[shamzi13]

nice video tension and release I love use this in my playing

[Wallimann]

@shamzi13 Thanks!

[marcrothman]

Great lesson.

I really like the way you tied it to the drum fill. Very cool.

Thanks.

[Wallimann]

@marcrothman Thanks a lot Marc!

[davidvazz]

Great video!!!

[Wallimann]

@davidvazz Thanks Dave!

[arcofascent]

Superb tip! And as always, short and sweet.

[Wallimann]

@arcofascent Thank you! :-)

[XAlphaZEROX]

Nice video! I enjoy watching all of your videos! They're really informative. Just a question, what pickup do you have in the bridge?

[Wallimann]

@XAlphaZEROX Thanks so much! The bridge uses a DiMarzio Evolution.

[plexitone]

Playing outside on the upbeat is very cool sounding too.

[Wallimann]

@plexitone Nice! Great idea!

[uutooyu]

nice pick ups wally! way more tonality!

[Wallimann]

@uutooyu Thanks so much! I really love DiMarzios.

[AbdouAbdelwahed]

merci infiniment maître !!!

[Wallimann]

@AbdouAbdelwahed Haha! Avec plasir!



[wickedwizardofspeed]

wow that was really cool! you are a fantastic musician. awesome lesson Wallimann!

[Wallimann]

@wickedwizardofspeed Glad you like it! Thanks!

[wickedmojo]

very cool lesson.  will come in real handy dave!

[Wallimann]

@wickedmojo :-)

[jose044]

JE-SUS!!! You put it in such a simple way!! THAN YOU!

[MrCsabaBalogh]

I love your absolutely clear explanations Dave!! great tutorials!!

[Wallimann]

@MrCsabaBalogh Thanks so much!

[katsujinken00]

Super leçon un bon truc a placer a l'avenir!

[Wallimann]

@katsujinken00 Merci!

[hgyture2347]

Thanks for the lesson! I will go try this now.

[312chicagoadam]

...OH,,,and THANKS for another great idea!!!

[312chicagoadam]

So, I am thinking that playing those "outside notes" during the drum fill is a surefire way to use these successfully,,,,yes?

[Wallimann]

@312chicagoadam Yeah :-)

[Darfuria]

Tasty

[druminstr]

Naturally!  LOL

[sacredgeometry]

this is an old video...isnt it? I dont mind its my favorite of all of your videos

[Wallimann]

@sacredgeometry No, I filmed this 2 days ago...

[sacredgeometry]

@Wallimann Its a lot like one you made a while ago even some phrases being almost identical :) Either way thank you :)

[Wallimann]

@sacredgeometry Oh that's right! did something similar a while back. :-)

[WastedRespect]

Guthrie Govan not "Guthrie Giovan"

[Wallimann]

@WastedRespect Sorry, typo... :-)

[wesmartino64]

@WastedRespect

perhaps your name should be "waste_of_life" or "waste_of_time," as these are what you accomplish by correcting people's youtube typos

[WastedRespect]

@wesmartino64 Typos are a different thing. Established artists shouldn't be mispelled. That is what prevents us from being apes, my friend. Now troll somewhere else please.

[wesmartino64]

@WastedRespect

Sorry for the insult, but I just respect the heck out of Walliman, and I felt the need to defend his honor. Also, I recently learned that his native language is French, which may result in the occasional typo in English; or, it could just have been the result of a simple keystroke error ("i" and "o" are adjacent keys, he may have just finished working on a slide guitar exercise before typing)

[roryrockssocks]

Great lesson!

You always find ways to make playing outside seem so approachable!

I think I'm actually gonna buy that backing to practice this idea a bit!

[Wallimann]

@roryrockssocks Thanks! :-)

[Fiarzen]

great lesson :) its amazing the stuff you can get away with as long as you land in the right place XD perhaps you could do some lessons on melodic minor and it's modes for improvising? I never really understood how to use that

[Wallimann]

@Fiarzen Good idea! But I will need to review a lot! :-D