VID#1 CASE IH QuadTrac 530 & White 4-270 pulling tiling trencher. Over 800 hp combined!

[maxwell6119]

I had 4-270 sold it in1993 kirkland,il

it had the same air cleaner on it

just wondering if it is it

bankst800@aol.com

[mjoe7]

@maxwell6119

That would be neat if it is. I'm not the owner, but I can ask him when and where he got it. I will get back to you. I know he's had it a long time.

[switch55]

That's cool. Glad it worked out for ya!

[switch55]

Took me a while to figure out what you were doing. I didn't know a 6" plastic drainage pipe could make that much difference for you. Doesn't look like you put it in a water way or low lying area but more on level ground or was that just the level of the camera that fooled me?

[mjoe7]

@switch55 This area was a water seeping area that comes out of the hill behind the camera view. The drainage improved the crop greatly!

[mjoe7]

@mjoe7 It drains into a ditch that runs into the marsh.

[ccrowl100]

We put in 17850 feet today. We have a gold digger pro as well. Pull it with a 435 Stieger. Ground is hard as hell this year. Had to put our 485 on it as well to get her through. Couldn't get traction. Just slipped on top. Usually we dont have any problem with 4 inch or even 6. Usually only have to put 2 tractors on when pulling the 8 inch boot. We're gonna start pre ripping any deep runs we have. Cool video.

[mjoe7]

True but... if it dried we wouldn't need the drainage tile now would we.

[Pullfan74]

Should have waited till it was dryer! When you make a trench in wet soil it just seals the sides, using tile plow, back hoe, trencher, no matter. Sorry but it just wont drain as good if it were dry when you put the tile in.

[Horsesavy]

Great to see Videos of the 4 series whites. Nice looking tractor yet too i might add. Spent many years working on White Oliver Moline's. They actually deserve more respect than they are given.

[15studebaker]

you guys are over killing that way to much we have a MX240 that can pull that same size of tile plow. And only needs help sometimes from our Magnum 8920

[mjoe7]

@15studebaker

I know, but your forgetting that it doesn't matter how much power you have if you can't get traction. This area we were tiling was very muddy and water was standing in areas. There was no way the White could get through it without spinning. That was the reason for the CaseIh.

[1964corvan]

what size blade? last month farm field next to me they used 2 quadtracs to pull a 7 foot deep by 1 foot wide trencher through the dirt

[mjoe7]

@1964corvan

That's awesome. I'm not sure on the size.

[whittbob13]

What exactly are you doing?

[mjoe7]

@whittbob13

We are putting drainage tile in the ground. When a field does not dry out well the crop yield is poor not to mention it's hard to drive through as is the case here, it was to wet/muddy for the White to get through. With the drainage tile it removes access water from the ground to improve the crop yield.

[sp00ktube]

How deep were you putting the tile or pipe?

[mjoe7]

@sp00ktube

Anywhere between 3ft. and 4 ft. deep.

[shadowassassin199]

used to own one of those 4-270. wonderfull tractor what a pity they are nolonger built. Own case steiger tractors now, but still think about that white, great machine.

[djtoonraider666]

why would you spend that much money on a tractor with no linkage



[mjoe7]

@djtoonraider666

Good question. lol They don't make many with 3 points, just the way it is I guess.

[1964corvan]

why did you need the case for? several times i saw slack in the tow rope indicating the white and or the case would have been sufficient to do the job by oneself.

[mjoe7]

@1964corvan

To answer your question. We used the Case because it was to muddy and the white would spin down and get stuck. The Case had no 3 point hitch so the tile machine would not hookup to it.

[fieviper700]

thats how you get it done

[Embrikkkk]

does that go deep? :P

[mjoe7]

@Embrikkkk

yes it does. About 4 feet deep or more.

[Flaviocdr]

Good day to serve the hose buried in the ground? for irrigation or drainage? Thanks, buddy!

[mjoe7]

@Flaviocdr

Drainage so the fish's have water. hehe!

[slamdan81]

@mjoe7

why don't you use rotative trencher? probably it should take less horsepower and you could use only a tractor

thanks in advance for you comments

[mjoe7]

@slamdan81 Well the problem was not horsepower it was the mud. The White would get stuck instantly and just spin into the ground so the CaseIH kept it going. It was very wet. I have another video that I will have to post sometime that shows it better.

Thanks for your comments.

[billydmax]

what state is this in?

[mjoe7]

@billydmax

Arizona. lol

[stihlthebest]

Whats the man walking alongside doing?

[mjoe7]

@stihlthebest

He doing just that. Walking along side. lol.

[379v8diesel]

Man i wish i had that 4-270, those were damn good tractors

[MrRuebie]

@379v8diesel yes i think it tooo that are very good tractors

[dunzy06]

If you hit another tile how do you plug it so it don't create a suck hole?

[mjoe7]

@dunzy06 Well you don't hit another tile that's how. lol. If that were to happen we would dig out the bad section and resplice it as if nothing happened to it. The trick is knowing and finding the damage. Usually it will be wetter above where the damage accured after a year or so.

[cjstensrud]

@dunzy06

Well as I'm sure the guys that made this video well know.....You spend hours, and hours, then a couple more hours, and then after that a few more hours physically pushing a small metal probe down into the ground hoping to hit another tile line. My family owns a drainage business and I've been doing that since I was tall enough to reach the top of the probe. It sucks, but Like Duzy06 says, if you cross another line you dig it up and either cap the line or re-connect it.

[kizig18]

so did that tile help your field just woundering how much is a big roll of that tile cost

[mjoe7]

@kizig18 Yes it helped alot! We just harvested corn off it and got 2x more than before.

I can't remember what the tile costs. It depends on type and size of rolls.

[iastate97]

My mx240 will pull a tile plow 3 foot in the ground by itself laying 4" plastic tile when its dry so i would hope that with 800 combined hp it wudnt work it...

[mjoe7]

@iastate97 The White by itself does fine with it, but it was to wet and just spun in place, so the Quad Trac assisted while idling along and still broke 2 big tow ropes. We were about 4 feet in the ground with the tile.

The type of ground you have determines how deep you can pull with X amount of power.

[thefarminkid8760]

@mjoe7 yes you are correct, were we are are ground is so hard i stoped a d8t with one 4.5 foot shank just stoped and started spinning and the ground was dry so were we are you couldent even to dream about doing that were we are, sweet video

[rhofford]

looked like there was some slack in the rope a few times :) What other jobs does your 4-270 get used for?

[hvguy]

is that french drain tubing? and does the quadtrac have the option of a PTO and 3 point? would be useful

[mjoe7]

The tubing is just plain drainage tile. &

Yes the Quadtrac has the option of either a bareback as this one is or a 3 point hitch.

If this had the 3 point we would not have needed the White to pull the trencher. The Quadtrac would have done it easily by itself.

We pulled the tiling machine over 4 ft. deep and the White together at only 800 rpm and it was'nt even working.

It's a Beast!

[hvguy]

anything with tracks is freakin sick in my book.

especially a dozer with a PTO winch... freakin ridiculous!

[mjoe7]

The CASEIH Quadtrac puts out 580 peak hp and the White makes 270 hp. For a total of 850 hp together. They don't rate it at the drawbar,

[1944johndeerel]

now that looks like a fun toy!

[ShnitzlHaus]

good stuff Joe.

any of these yours?

[mjoe7]

No none of them our mine. Though I dream of it. ;-)