Truth is a complete defence to libel under English law, if you can prove what you said to be true the case will be thrown out and the Judge will most likely order the plaintiff to cover the defendant's legal fees and ancillary costs (e.g. flights to the UK or hotel accomadation during the trial)- particularly in a case where the plaintiff has a net worth of $3.2 billion.
With that in mind if Ehrenfeld could prove any allegations she made she had little to fear from what I can see.
Why has ever president since Jimmy Carter promised us that we would cut our dependence on Arab oil and yet every president since and including Jimmy Carter has done nothing but increase our dependence on Arab oil?
Clean energy or dirty energy, I don't care. Just get us off of this Arab oil so we don't keep making idiots like this rich.
He IS a terrorist. Jihad can be waged by 'the tongue', by their wealth, and/or by violence. Note the first two options of waging jihad, per sharia laws, o9. HE IS A TERRORIST! We need to stop using our western words - HE IS A JIHADIST and whatever way they wage jihad the end is the same for us - death or subjugation.
Well Kooodeal this is very interesting. You say that it is the responsibility of the injured to prove that they really have been injured? The evidence of the printed or spoken word is not enough?
There is a very fundamental dichotomy here. Freedom of speech is a right to speak what the individual believes to be the truth. However that belief can be extremely damaging to those against whom such truths are directed. Is it not merely justice that the defamed individual has the right to require his or her detractors to prove the accuracy of their truths before a Judge and Jury and if they are unable so to do be required to pay compensation for the damage done to his reputation?
Not in the USA, we do not let the rich silence us,by making us prove anything ,but so called injured party must show how he is injured.England protects the rich ,so we won't allow our citizens to be sued for libel there.Simple solution.
It doesn't protect the rich so much as it protects their reputations, and even then its not a matter of wealth its a matter of reputation. In fact a public figure who brings a defamation case must prove malice on the part of whoever villified them, whereas an ordinary non public figure must only prove negligence.
Defamation law in the UK comes down to one thing, you must be able to prove the things you say about other people if those things could damage their reputation.
The Saudis are Wahabi's. This was a man made sect within the religion and was made with the help of the British along with a corrupt family called the Saud family from Najd, east side of Arabia. The British gave them so much power, they ruled the land and thus made a royal family. In Islam, you do not have royalality but a leader which is elected.
Hence from that day, the Saudi's have been freiends of the Brits and Yanks and have been giving them oil. The story goes on....
Without the oil, no country would say boo to Saudi Arabia. Oil is the only reason the west is boot licking the Saudis. If the rest of the world wasn't so dependent on Saudi Arabia for its oil, this kind of shit wouldn't be tolerated.
There are two types of Muslims: active terrorists and passive terrorists.
Muslims find it convenient to explain that Muslims committing acts of terrorism are not "real" Muslims, and that they insult Islam.
Do you remember the fierce Muslim demonstrations over the Danish cartoons? They called for the beheading of those who "insult" Islam
Only when I get to see Muslims demonstrating and demanding the beheading of terrorists for "insulting" Islam, will I believe there is a third kind of Muslim.
Saudi Arabia is the source of all our problems. The bigest blow we can deal to them is to break the oil habit. They're fighting us with our own money. I urge everyone to buy an electric car as soon as you are able. Park the gas guzzler & vote for true patriots on all levels of government. That's my goal. Not quite there yet but I'm working on it. Cut your fuel bill by 90% & stick it to the Saudi's at the same time, does it get any better then that?
Well said and well done. It is high time the real facts about this dark age regime were brought to light. The Bush family's links with the Saudi dictators has also been well documented.
It is such a pity that a documentary like this has no chance at all of being broadcast in Great Britain - we in the UK are the 'least free' people in any country that calls itself a democracy
Don't rock the boat! That's the message from a bunch of new born Chamberlains, selling Israel and their own freedom for petro-dollar. But what the hell, we're gonna have to fight those halal-hippies soon enough anyway, and hopefully rid the world of Islam once and for all.
We should have let Saddam Hussein slaughter the Saudi Royal Pigsty in 1990-1991, and only afterward moved in to deal with Saddam. Two problems could have been solved at the same time, and the ordinary Saudi people (especially women) would be much better off today. Saudi Arabia is also holding female U.S. citizens in white slavery, an act of war against the United States.
Saudi Arabia is a medieval dictatorship ruled by bipedal swine (think the Harkonnens from "Dune" and the character played by Kenneth McMillan), and is totally unworthy of respect. The fact that this pig found itself on top of some oil (like the Beverly Hillbillies did) and is now worth $3.2 billion as a result does not make said pig a civilized human being.
Since U.S. citizens are not subject to the jurisdiction of British courts, what happens if one just ignores the court's verdict? There was a time when England was worthy of respect, but Winston Churchill died long ago.
This happens because Bush family, State Department and majority of ruling elite is bought by Saudi moneys. Remember that the only plane which was allowed to depart after 9/11 was plane with Osama relatives. Remember that instead of wiping out Saudis and take over oil wells, Bush sent young guys to die in Iraq and Afganistan and promises us long war on terror to deliver huge profit to military complex too. He should be impeached for treason.
This happens because Bush family, State Department and majority of ruling elite is bought by Saudi moneys. Remember that the only plane which was allowed to depart after 9/11 was plane with Osama relatives. Remember that instead of wiping out Saudis and take over oil wells, Bush sent young guys to die in Iraq and Afganistan and promises us long war on terror to deliver huge profit to military complex too. He should be impeached for treason.
Why do we allow this abuse, he asks. Because we're all pud sucking whores for oil. Just wait until the "john" called Saudi Arabia runs out of what we need to get our fix, lol.
Money in completely unlimited amounts have corrupted every American Administration since the Carter Administration and each President has personally profited from these funds, as well as have their political parties.
It is one of the greatest dangers this country faces today, andcould easily bring th if we do not take immediate action!
All those idiots that are calling for nuking Saudi should remember that those assholes running Saudi invest all their oil money back in the US markets. Their king is nothing than an American puppet allowing allowing 10,000 US troops in his country.
Now who makes a more useful ally to the US, Israel or Saudi?
Rachel Ehrenfeld is a hero. G-d bless her. We owe her, Bat Ye'or, Walid Shoebat, Brigitte Gabriel, Robert Spencer, Steve Emerson, Oriana Fallaci, and other outspoken heroes, an enormous debt of gratitude. Freedom isn't free.
Dear Davkakach, you're absolutely right. We have no Churchill, General Patton or a Reagan, who for all his flaws, saw Communism 4 what it was, murder, lies, conformity, envy & spite, & freed almost 1 billion people from it. U may enjoy dissectleft blogspot com drsanity com thepeoplescube com or me, colonelrobertneville blogspot com
Dependency on oil is only half of it now, these filthy rich Saudis own huge shares in our media amongst other things, our politicians are basically traitors...
What an outrage! This is what happens if you dare to write the truth about the corrupt Saudis and their jihadi friends. This brave woman must be supported.
I dont agree we must preserve the planet.What we should be doing is trying to find an alternative to oil and that would cut the legs off radical Islam.These comments on our English law is 100% correct however.
Frickin' ACLU. About time they actually took a real role in defending freedom, rather than trying to squash American freedoms of association and speech in order to protect minorities from hurt feelings. Wow, Silverglate thinks it's one of the most important free speech rights cases in 25 years huh? I'm so impressed at his ability to see and say the completely obvious. Sorry Harvey, no fawning praise from me, though it's nice to see you're on the right side for once.
Dr. Ehrenfeld is being persecuted by Mafhouz for having free expression of thought. The American established media turn their heads while Dr. Ehrenfeld fights to retain the basic freedoms they rely on to keep a free media. Saudi Arabia is the biggest threat to Western civilization. I agree w/TomCatScat: We must fuel ourselves, then we can tell the Sauds to stick it where the sun doesn't shine. All our leaders are betraying us on this issue, Dems and Reps.
Too important, too compelling for the liberal mainstream media to cover. If the judge was from the American south instead of a European country, then maybe they might have covered it. Maybe.
Truth is a complete defence to libel under English law, if you can prove what you said to be true the case will be thrown out and the Judge will most likely order the plaintiff to cover the defendant's legal fees and ancillary costs (e.g. flights to the UK or hotel accomadation during the trial)- particularly in a case where the plaintiff has a net worth of $3.2 billion.
With that in mind if Ehrenfeld could prove any allegations she made she had little to fear from what I can see.
theporksicle 1 year ago
We must and can defeat the islamoterrorists and their friends!
RobertRobls 1 year ago
Why has ever president since Jimmy Carter promised us that we would cut our dependence on Arab oil and yet every president since and including Jimmy Carter has done nothing but increase our dependence on Arab oil?
Clean energy or dirty energy, I don't care. Just get us off of this Arab oil so we don't keep making idiots like this rich.
AlbaGoBragh 1 year ago
He IS a terrorist. Jihad can be waged by 'the tongue', by their wealth, and/or by violence. Note the first two options of waging jihad, per sharia laws, o9. HE IS A TERRORIST! We need to stop using our western words - HE IS A JIHADIST and whatever way they wage jihad the end is the same for us - death or subjugation.
staffsgt7 1 year ago
The British government is SO DAMN STUPID...
Ania86G 2 years ago
bye bye bin Mahfouz, sadly for you where you went there is no rest or peace....
EncompassedRunner 2 years ago
Well Kooodeal this is very interesting. You say that it is the responsibility of the injured to prove that they really have been injured? The evidence of the printed or spoken word is not enough?
fimetic 2 years ago
@fimetic Yes ,you must show how that word ,hurt you,by over whelming evidence.
kooodeal 1 year ago
oprahncant say she mistrusts beef on tv. using her public platform...but she can say it in private.
4aaaaa4 2 years ago
There is a very fundamental dichotomy here. Freedom of speech is a right to speak what the individual believes to be the truth. However that belief can be extremely damaging to those against whom such truths are directed. Is it not merely justice that the defamed individual has the right to require his or her detractors to prove the accuracy of their truths before a Judge and Jury and if they are unable so to do be required to pay compensation for the damage done to his reputation?
fimetic 2 years ago
Not in the USA, we do not let the rich silence us,by making us prove anything ,but so called injured party must show how he is injured.England protects the rich ,so we won't allow our citizens to be sued for libel there.Simple solution.
kooodeal 2 years ago
@kooodeal
It doesn't protect the rich so much as it protects their reputations, and even then its not a matter of wealth its a matter of reputation. In fact a public figure who brings a defamation case must prove malice on the part of whoever villified them, whereas an ordinary non public figure must only prove negligence.
Defamation law in the UK comes down to one thing, you must be able to prove the things you say about other people if those things could damage their reputation.
theporksicle 1 year ago
yeah well we'll take down those wahabis after we squash the ayatollahs like bugs.
scuddycares 3 years ago
The Saudis are Wahabi's. This was a man made sect within the religion and was made with the help of the British along with a corrupt family called the Saud family from Najd, east side of Arabia. The British gave them so much power, they ruled the land and thus made a royal family. In Islam, you do not have royalality but a leader which is elected.
Hence from that day, the Saudi's have been freiends of the Brits and Yanks and have been giving them oil. The story goes on....
Jaibajrang29 3 years ago
These people are like animals.
jojo70jojo 3 years ago 3
Without the oil, no country would say boo to Saudi Arabia. Oil is the only reason the west is boot licking the Saudis. If the rest of the world wasn't so dependent on Saudi Arabia for its oil, this kind of shit wouldn't be tolerated.
boogerbuttpoop 3 years ago 5
There are two types of Muslims: active terrorists and passive terrorists.
Muslims find it convenient to explain that Muslims committing acts of terrorism are not "real" Muslims, and that they insult Islam.
Do you remember the fierce Muslim demonstrations over the Danish cartoons? They called for the beheading of those who "insult" Islam
Only when I get to see Muslims demonstrating and demanding the beheading of terrorists for "insulting" Islam, will I believe there is a third kind of Muslim.
cafeafuh 3 years ago 5
Saudi Arabia is the source of all our problems. The bigest blow we can deal to them is to break the oil habit. They're fighting us with our own money. I urge everyone to buy an electric car as soon as you are able. Park the gas guzzler & vote for true patriots on all levels of government. That's my goal. Not quite there yet but I'm working on it. Cut your fuel bill by 90% & stick it to the Saudi's at the same time, does it get any better then that?
KenMacMillan 3 years ago 2
Fortunately for Western Civilization, NY has passed Rachel's Law, Read blog Planck's Constant Rachel`s Law and the Burning Cats of Genghis Khan
bernieg1 3 years ago 4
Well said and well done. It is high time the real facts about this dark age regime were brought to light. The Bush family's links with the Saudi dictators has also been well documented.
It is such a pity that a documentary like this has no chance at all of being broadcast in Great Britain - we in the UK are the 'least free' people in any country that calls itself a democracy
Generalwol 4 years ago 7
A truly excellent video with a stark message. these creatures wish to do what ever it takes to silenece the truth.
phuckislam 4 years ago 7
Yes, an excellent video on a subject we in the free world have to keep shouting about.
Rich Saudis should not be immune from prosecution for their funding of terrorism.
Saudi Arabia (the birthplace of Islam) should be recognised as a major state sponsor of terrorism.
moondog102 4 years ago 6
at least now i know who funded terrism
system0slaven 4 years ago 6
outrageous!
system0slaven 4 years ago 6
Don't rock the boat! That's the message from a bunch of new born Chamberlains, selling Israel and their own freedom for petro-dollar. But what the hell, we're gonna have to fight those halal-hippies soon enough anyway, and hopefully rid the world of Islam once and for all.
Bjoern846 4 years ago 11
We should have let Saddam Hussein slaughter the Saudi Royal Pigsty in 1990-1991, and only afterward moved in to deal with Saddam. Two problems could have been solved at the same time, and the ordinary Saudi people (especially women) would be much better off today. Saudi Arabia is also holding female U.S. citizens in white slavery, an act of war against the United States.
TheStentorian 4 years ago 4
Saudi Arabia is a medieval dictatorship ruled by bipedal swine (think the Harkonnens from "Dune" and the character played by Kenneth McMillan), and is totally unworthy of respect. The fact that this pig found itself on top of some oil (like the Beverly Hillbillies did) and is now worth $3.2 billion as a result does not make said pig a civilized human being.
TheStentorian 4 years ago 4
Since U.S. citizens are not subject to the jurisdiction of British courts, what happens if one just ignores the court's verdict? There was a time when England was worthy of respect, but Winston Churchill died long ago.
TheStentorian 4 years ago 4
This happens because Bush family, State Department and majority of ruling elite is bought by Saudi moneys. Remember that the only plane which was allowed to depart after 9/11 was plane with Osama relatives. Remember that instead of wiping out Saudis and take over oil wells, Bush sent young guys to die in Iraq and Afganistan and promises us long war on terror to deliver huge profit to military complex too. He should be impeached for treason.
alex8491 4 years ago
This happens because Bush family, State Department and majority of ruling elite is bought by Saudi moneys. Remember that the only plane which was allowed to depart after 9/11 was plane with Osama relatives. Remember that instead of wiping out Saudis and take over oil wells, Bush sent young guys to die in Iraq and Afganistan and promises us long war on terror to deliver huge profit to military complex too. He should be impeached for treason.
alex8491 4 years ago
THis islam and it's stupid inhuman laws........ which has destroyed our Iran as well.
iranyar2 4 years ago 3
how would all you like it if you were that woman who was raped by 7 guys to get 200 lashes on top ofthat bullshit
funnygirl9999 4 years ago 2
now all you can see how they gave the woman who was raped 200 lashes!! these are fucking assholes
funnygirl9999 4 years ago
outrageous!
Schwyndfst 4 years ago
Why do we allow this abuse, he asks. Because we're all pud sucking whores for oil. Just wait until the "john" called Saudi Arabia runs out of what we need to get our fix, lol.
valupak 4 years ago
Money in completely unlimited amounts have corrupted every American Administration since the Carter Administration and each President has personally profited from these funds, as well as have their political parties.
It is one of the greatest dangers this country faces today, andcould easily bring th if we do not take immediate action!
hwgluckman 4 years ago
All those idiots that are calling for nuking Saudi should remember that those assholes running Saudi invest all their oil money back in the US markets. Their king is nothing than an American puppet allowing allowing 10,000 US troops in his country.
Now who makes a more useful ally to the US, Israel or Saudi?
sibilkkoloft 4 years ago
On the balance, Israel, by a very wide margin.
{^_^}
Wizardess 4 years ago
Bollocks.
sibilkkoloft 4 years ago
Rachel Ehrenfeld is a hero. G-d bless her. We owe her, Bat Ye'or, Walid Shoebat, Brigitte Gabriel, Robert Spencer, Steve Emerson, Oriana Fallaci, and other outspoken heroes, an enormous debt of gratitude. Freedom isn't free.
davkakach 4 years ago 4
Dear Davkakach, you're absolutely right. We have no Churchill, General Patton or a Reagan, who for all his flaws, saw Communism 4 what it was, murder, lies, conformity, envy & spite, & freed almost 1 billion people from it. U may enjoy dissectleft blogspot com drsanity com thepeoplescube com or me, colonelrobertneville blogspot com
gmakepiece 4 years ago
Saudi Arabia is the head of the snake, make no mistake about it.
kevmobile 4 years ago 5
Speechless...
benjie2429 4 years ago 2
Dependency on oil is only half of it now, these filthy rich Saudis own huge shares in our media amongst other things, our politicians are basically traitors...
mrcombi 4 years ago 8
Great video
obyx132 4 years ago
Perfect.
KAOSKTRL 4 years ago 2
One of the major networks needs to show some courage and air this video.
angus3xac52 4 years ago 8
What an outrage! This is what happens if you dare to write the truth about the corrupt Saudis and their jihadi friends. This brave woman must be supported.
ImNoDhimmi 4 years ago 19
Awesome video. Thanks for putting the truth out for all to see.
5/5
ConservativeVoiceUSA 4 years ago 11
I dont agree we must preserve the planet.What we should be doing is trying to find an alternative to oil and that would cut the legs off radical Islam.These comments on our English law is 100% correct however.
UNCLESHAGNASTY 4 years ago 2
Frickin' ACLU. About time they actually took a real role in defending freedom, rather than trying to squash American freedoms of association and speech in order to protect minorities from hurt feelings. Wow, Silverglate thinks it's one of the most important free speech rights cases in 25 years huh? I'm so impressed at his ability to see and say the completely obvious. Sorry Harvey, no fawning praise from me, though it's nice to see you're on the right side for once.
jthomas12793 4 years ago 9
Dr. Ehrenfeld is being persecuted by Mafhouz for having free expression of thought. The American established media turn their heads while Dr. Ehrenfeld fights to retain the basic freedoms they rely on to keep a free media. Saudi Arabia is the biggest threat to Western civilization. I agree w/TomCatScat: We must fuel ourselves, then we can tell the Sauds to stick it where the sun doesn't shine. All our leaders are betraying us on this issue, Dems and Reps.
xdhimmi 4 years ago 16
انا سعيدة جدا موجود تعرض فساد سعودي,أنا سعودية و هنا مناقش عن الحال ممنوع
i very happy you show corruption in my country how they oppress
a3rabiiya 4 years ago 13
I'm sorry you have to live that way. I can only imagine.
Kaliopy 4 years ago
Incredible expose', very well done, bravo!
lookhearsee 4 years ago 4
LHS, thanks for forwarding, just excellent!...Kev *=
kevpresent 4 years ago 3
Thx LHS for sharing this 5/5
LIVERLADD 4 years ago
Very informative. I can't believe the ACLU is on the right side here - a welcome change for them.
chase82 4 years ago 3
Too important, too compelling for the liberal mainstream media to cover. If the judge was from the American south instead of a European country, then maybe they might have covered it. Maybe.
JayAreDubya 4 years ago 4
Wonderfully courageous--both the documentarian, and Dr. Ehrenfeld!
freda29999 4 years ago 5
Only 216 views? This has to get out to the public before the Mahfouz lackeys close this down too.
cbrimmer 4 years ago 4
where has this been in the mainstream media?
marilynbrandi 4 years ago 3