Bassam does not back up his conversation with either surah or Ayat from ALLAH subhanahu wa talla book or from hadith, it is more like the Thabiti argumentative style more like selling emotion but not straight, clear answers that Bassam can use from Quran. What more powerful words than the words of ALLAH to clear a point instead of going around and around and example here and there that does not have a word from Quran.
Thabiti says "IT is impossible to present (follow) GOD with our own perfection" (31:09), he basically says WE cannot be perfect, so "we" need Christ. Yet, what does Jesus say? He said "Be PERFECT LIKE the Father" (Matt 5:24).
Christianity teaches GOD gets "offended" and "hurt" by SIN while the GOD of Islam is powerful and EXPECTS (not wants) Humans to SIN (because he created them that way) so He could exercise his Mercy and FORGIVEN them without injustice (atonement, killing a guiltless man). The Bible says "Do not shed innocent" (Jere 7:6), so how could GOD shed innocent blood? When a person SINS he dies spiritually, when he REPENTS he becomes back to LIFE (spiritually). That is Islam, not lawless "Christianity"
GOD (knowingly) made Humans sinful so He could exercise His mercy and forgive them. IF humans don't sin GOD would replace them with another Species and they'd sin and He would forgive them. "Christianity" STRIPS this Divine Right from GOD (forgiveness). Christianity is TELLING God what to do, saying GOD needs blood but GOD doesn't need blood (or anything). Christianity contradicts the Bible and vice versa! The Hadith says GOD will forgive sins even if those SINS amount to the SIZE of earth
Mercy and Forgiveness replaced Blood and Sacrifice long BEFORE Christianity came (Hosea 6:6, Prov. 16:6, Isa. 1:11, Micah 6:7-9) so Thabiti is WRONG to say Sacrifice runs "consistently" throughout the Bible. The Lamb sacrifices of the Torah were temporary, not eternal. Also, the Bible condemns HUMAN sacrifice, which is "Christianity". The story of Abraham symbolizes the END of human sacrifice with LAMB sacrifice, Isaac replaced with a lamb, no mention of Atonement. Similarly, Jesus was replaced
The Bible depicts GOD as inconsistent, Ps. 5:5 says GOD hates sinners but according to John 3:16 God loves the sinners. We have a GOD who HATES (Ps. 5:5) and a GOD who "loves" (John 3:16). The "cross" is NOT love. IT is heavenly child abuse and John 3:16 sugarcoats what is bloody (pagan) human sacrifice, ritual murder by Jews. They did not believe Jesus died for their sins, the doctrine of Atonement was INVENTED to give "meaning" to the cross and "validate" the bloody murder of Jesus (by God)
the muslim guy is no making any sense on salvation in islam. he'a exposing some kind a allah gambling on muslims salvation, he like to say a muslim must first repent. how that happens.
a holy god don't give a shit on what gun was on your head forcing for commit a murder
killing someone.
muslims are limiting allah to be nothing but a crak god.
no sin stand unpunished before the holy god period!
muham-mad is actually in hell seeing all muslims coming to join hin there. hahahah!!!
@pantherlake2002 Ya i didnt say he did not.. But its always them 2.. And the ppl i mentioned or much more experienced and educated in comparitive religion..
I don't think brother Nouman is too keen on debates (see what he said here: watch?v=iQexG_CsKo4). Also, this wasn't really a debate, it was a dialogue with Zawadi and Thabiti. I think Nouman would prefer dialogues with kafirs rather than debates. He had a dialogue with a Christian (see: watch?v=pcmAbkZwRRI).
Bassam does not back up his conversation with either surah or Ayat from ALLAH subhanahu wa talla book or from hadith, it is more like the Thabiti argumentative style more like selling emotion but not straight, clear answers that Bassam can use from Quran. What more powerful words than the words of ALLAH to clear a point instead of going around and around and example here and there that does not have a word from Quran.
It is just a point of view.
zistube 1 month ago
MASHALAH this hijabi in 15:00 is soo beautiful r u single?
lamarrrr 2 months ago
Thabiti says "IT is impossible to present (follow) GOD with our own perfection" (31:09), he basically says WE cannot be perfect, so "we" need Christ. Yet, what does Jesus say? He said "Be PERFECT LIKE the Father" (Matt 5:24).
muslim9x9x 2 months ago
Christianity teaches GOD gets "offended" and "hurt" by SIN while the GOD of Islam is powerful and EXPECTS (not wants) Humans to SIN (because he created them that way) so He could exercise his Mercy and FORGIVEN them without injustice (atonement, killing a guiltless man). The Bible says "Do not shed innocent" (Jere 7:6), so how could GOD shed innocent blood? When a person SINS he dies spiritually, when he REPENTS he becomes back to LIFE (spiritually). That is Islam, not lawless "Christianity"
muslim9x9x 2 months ago
GOD (knowingly) made Humans sinful so He could exercise His mercy and forgive them. IF humans don't sin GOD would replace them with another Species and they'd sin and He would forgive them. "Christianity" STRIPS this Divine Right from GOD (forgiveness). Christianity is TELLING God what to do, saying GOD needs blood but GOD doesn't need blood (or anything). Christianity contradicts the Bible and vice versa! The Hadith says GOD will forgive sins even if those SINS amount to the SIZE of earth
muslim9x9x 2 months ago
Mercy and Forgiveness replaced Blood and Sacrifice long BEFORE Christianity came (Hosea 6:6, Prov. 16:6, Isa. 1:11, Micah 6:7-9) so Thabiti is WRONG to say Sacrifice runs "consistently" throughout the Bible. The Lamb sacrifices of the Torah were temporary, not eternal. Also, the Bible condemns HUMAN sacrifice, which is "Christianity". The story of Abraham symbolizes the END of human sacrifice with LAMB sacrifice, Isaac replaced with a lamb, no mention of Atonement. Similarly, Jesus was replaced
muslim9x9x 2 months ago
The Bible depicts GOD as inconsistent, Ps. 5:5 says GOD hates sinners but according to John 3:16 God loves the sinners. We have a GOD who HATES (Ps. 5:5) and a GOD who "loves" (John 3:16). The "cross" is NOT love. IT is heavenly child abuse and John 3:16 sugarcoats what is bloody (pagan) human sacrifice, ritual murder by Jews. They did not believe Jesus died for their sins, the doctrine of Atonement was INVENTED to give "meaning" to the cross and "validate" the bloody murder of Jesus (by God)
muslim9x9x 2 months ago
woooww!!
who asked this muslim guy to debate for islam?
he's talking about small sin, big sin.
this foolish guy thing god makes difference betwen sins? sins are sins there's no big or small sins before GOD. fool!!!
shabirmansour 3 months ago
the muslim guy is no making any sense on salvation in islam. he'a exposing some kind a allah gambling on muslims salvation, he like to say a muslim must first repent. how that happens.
a holy god don't give a shit on what gun was on your head forcing for commit a murder
killing someone.
muslims are limiting allah to be nothing but a crak god.
no sin stand unpunished before the holy god period!
muham-mad is actually in hell seeing all muslims coming to join hin there. hahahah!!!
shabirmansour 3 months ago
Jesus is my rock and my Salvation!
my143jaycats 3 months ago
According to this video i am convinced without any doubts that islam is just some other kind of philosophy, but Jesus is the One.
katerina196 6 months ago
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Chaaazz2008 6 months ago
we need to send him Shabir Ali... or Nouman Khan
t10parwani 8 months ago
@t10parwani subhanallah. The brother did a nice job. We dont need to send no one.
pantherlake2002 8 months ago
@pantherlake2002 Ya i didnt say he did not.. But its always them 2.. And the ppl i mentioned or much more experienced and educated in comparitive religion..
t10parwani 8 months ago
@t10parwani I know brother Shabir ally but I never seen brother Nourman khan debate.
pantherlake2002 8 months ago
@t10parwani then watch brother.. he has a Phd in Arabic language.. The best of all who speaks Arabic as good as his english
t10parwani 8 months ago
I don't think brother Nouman is too keen on debates (see what he said here: watch?v=iQexG_CsKo4). Also, this wasn't really a debate, it was a dialogue with Zawadi and Thabiti. I think Nouman would prefer dialogues with kafirs rather than debates. He had a dialogue with a Christian (see: watch?v=pcmAbkZwRRI).
itcrowdfan92 7 months ago
MashAllah.. im having a dialogue in Jeddah soon inshAllah..
t10parwani 8 months ago