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  • Looks like too much flaps and too heavy!

  • Full flaps on takeoff???

  • Para mi la mujer piso el pedal de timón de cola

  • Simplemente, no hubo weight and balance calculations en este vuelo. El avion es un cessna 172-R y el piloto debio haber echo los calculos en de acuerdo con el POH del manufacturer. Primero, es un soft field take-off la cual el calculo de despeje es diferente. Si la pista es corta (menos de 2,000 pies) entonces se hace el despegue con Vx que son Vr a 60 knots IAS y flaps 20. El piloto no hizo AROW and AV1ATE para ver si el peso de pasajeros y equipaje eran menos que el peso del avion.

  • no vas a hacer la carrera con los flaps puestos esperas a pasar por un par de nudos la "vr" y metes los 20°, ya que el uso de los flaps o aletas tambien es un generador de resistencia, y como dice la aerodinamica basica la recistencia inducida es inversamente proporcional a la vel,res. inducida= superficies que generan lift=levantamiento y no se como usted piensa que el peso no es reelevante en en un despegue si el w/L tienenque equilibrarse.

  • @ducker1942 1- confundis V2 con la VX y la VY 2-la resistencia inducida es consecuencia de la sustentacion si no la tenemos no hay sustentacion y no se vuela

    3-el procedimiento de despegue corto del c182 es con 20° de flaps durante el ground roll completo hacer lo que sugeris de aplicarlos pasando la VR no esta autorizado por el fabricante y causaria el efecto"balooning"

    4- en el despegue y el acenso L supera el W sino el avion no subiria

    las fuerzas se equilibran en VRN SOLAMENTE!

  • @pedrorafaelp 5- nunca dije que el peso no tenia importancia pues tiene toda la importancia asi como su estiva, y se debe calcualar aparte del peso y balance la altitud de dencidad de la pista para calcular el ground roll.

    y por ultimo revisar la s fuerzas que actuan sobre un avion lo hice y rendi todos mis examenes para ser piloto con exito ante la autoridad en chile donde si respetamos procedimientos y limitaciones del fabricante.

  • shit.. cuando salio la noticia, el primer video lo pasaron sin censura.. q horror... :(

  • that was a poor pilot, ... gound effect!!

  • @Petejay2 no , actually was a stall on take off, he dossnt' respect to airplane limitations

  • looks like the plane was way overloaded. 

  • all i heard was. "fcgcefhgehmcurehuururnfnsnkld­jljnvns,ksjbwjoidjonjsfnhaaaaa­h"

  • tu y tus pinches clases de flight safety me las paso por los huevos pinche piloto sierrero, chingas a tu puta madre cabron.

  • Who's the stonking hot news reader right at the end??? she can have my babies!!!

  • El avión iba con un desbalance en el cg y el piloto trato de compensar con el timón direccional! Que lastima, le falto V2 lo hubiera dejado correr mas y al rotar 15 de aletas

  • @ducker1942 el concepto de V2 no se aplica en monomotores y los flaps que adivino que es a lo que te referia a "aletas" estaban en 20 grados al despegue que es la posicion para despegues cortos del c-182 ademas no sabemos la altitud de densidad de la pista, ni el peso del avion ni su estiva, es tuvo sin lugar a dudas un stall en el despegue

  • @pedrorafaelp Sr. la expresion v2 la use para no dar valores como 58 IAS, en este caso al tener mayor peso su velocidad de ascenso debio ser mucho mayor, ahora el hecho de ir pesado y claro que es reelevante eso sr puesto que a mayor peso mayor distancia de TO y mayor velocidad para rotarlo de una revisada a las fuerzas que actuan sobre el planeador, y hay muchisimos factores que afectan las 2 carreras de despegue y los 4 segmentos no solo la densidad NO ME ALCANZA PARA RESPONDERL

  • @pedrorafaelp V2 la use teoricamente aun que esto no aplique para monomotores para no hablar de los 58 IAS que se necesitan para un ascenso seguro y aletas=flaps aerodinamica basica, la TODA debio ser bien calculada por elevacion y condiciones atmosfericas junto con el peso hay algo que se llama calculo de peso y balance que este avion evidentemente no tenia, y entanto a los flaps o aletas, si ya viloaste el peso requerido para despegar y vas a sacar el avion afuerza

  • esto son noticias serias? fuerzas descomunales? JODER tia si el avion va cruzado es porque estan dando fuerza al timon de cola!!

  • @miguelsaez340 si pero ella dijo (como si se trata de fuerzas descomunales)

  • @miguelsaez340 Tranquilo, hombre! La reportera lo decía en sentido metafórico.

  • Terrible :( RIP!, and somehow I'm glad that the pilot died also, since I think his life would've been ruined knowing he killed those three ppl. very sad :/

  • Too much weight also was a factor.

  • pues q irresponsabilida[ intentear un vuelvo en esas condiciones[ , q tristeza!cosas como estas qan pasado en colombia por falta de resposanbilidad[ o por ignorancia

  • Can you say weight and balance?

  • Terrible :( -R.I.P para la señora y el bebe-

  • Fk'n Idiot Pilot! The FLAPS are DOWN, ...set to stall the wings, to force the plane down for landing. It can't fly like that., as you can see. It was his responsibility, his fault.

  • motohead342 the dumbfuck: flaps were set at 20 degrees, exactly as the C-182Q manual specifies for a short-field takeoff. flaps lower (yes, lower) the stall speed by increasing lift (with a byproduct of drag). crash may have been the pilot's fault, but not for any reason your stupid loudmouthed ass would know about.

    please, all YT idiots: when you don't know what you're talking about, don't talk.

  • @motohead342 are you a fucking idiot? you clearly know nothing about flying planes dumbass. Normal takeoff procedures for a C182Q are to set flaps to 20 degrees, and the pilot was not even trying to land the plane. What do you mean stall the wings? You are a fucking idiot. The pilot may be at fault, but he is clearly more successful than you are.

  • @motohead342 lol you aren't very smart are you?

  • @motohead342 He was taking off, not landing. The aircraft wasn't up to the right speed for take off and he rotated too early and did not have enough lift. It looked also like the flaps weren't down to the appropriate level for take off.

  • VIEJA PELOTUDA NO TOQUES LOS PEDALEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES 

  • Should of made Miss Fat Cry-Baby walk...

  • I have a feeling that the women sitting next to the pilot panicked and grabbed the controls and at the pilot. I don't speak her language but after asking a friend to translate what she was crying about and saying he told me she was very scared of getting on the plane.

  • @BrokenRRT no the truth is, look how packed the airplane is with supplies and people, the plane was very overweight and it just did not want to stay in the air you can see at about 58 seconds that the aircraft stalled the second they wanted to add more of an angle of attack due to probably overweight or aft CG... or both!

  • jajajaja los colombianos...

  • @Fanchus Que con los colombianos gonorrea?

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  • @Fanchus Hahahaha si que chistoso malparido pq no muestra respeto por la mujer y el niño maldito ijueputa sabe que me puede chupar la grande verga colombiana guevonn

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  • @Fanchus Que no??? ud dijo ahii los colombianos y yo que con los colombianos y ud que son chistosos sabe que ahi murieron 3 personas maldito Gonorrea de mierda asqueroso jodase mariconn respete Ijueputaaaaa

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  • @Fanchus GONORREA DE MIERDA

  • shit happens..

  • ey I`m good looking babe

  • And all you people pretending to know what you're talking about, you're embarrassing. Have a nice warm cup of shut the fuck up. Really.

  • Theradarvec sent me a message to tell me he is type rated on the Embraers. This coming from a "pilot" that thinks Cessnas have a right turning tendency. You're killing me man, you're killing me.

  • Look at the trees and the sandblast. Theres no wind so looking at the take-off its obvious that the crying women step on the rudder ignitiating a forward slip... Sad

  • por lo que veo agarro un contra peso y la avioneta no podia cargar mucho esa es mi teoria

  • LA SENORA PRESENTIA LA PRESENCIA DE LA MUERTE $ERPIENTE=(

  • so Be kind and nice with me and I will be with you

  • too heavy!

  • Pilot error.

  • freakin flaps up!!

  • @sauucebauss It seems like he had 10 degrees of flaps in order to do a soft field takeoff, but if you look closely you can see him coming down with no flaps. My guess is that he retracted those 10 degrees before reaching his proper airspeed.

  • @sauucebauss is below the wing flaps in the takeoff because it gives a little extra lift

  • God Bless them all...

  • Regulations dont seem to ever apply to 3rd world countries!!!

  • @Warbird5162 lol... who was the pilot? the weight go to the airplane alone? and about the limits...operations book manual??? the fault was the pilot or the aircraft?

    the pilot is stupid.

  • mexicans think if they can fit into something.........like 20 people fitting into something made for 4 people..........then it must be ok...........

  • @Bigwill6363 was in colombia dumbass

  • Fucken idiots. Sad accident indeed

  • People shouldn't speculate unless they have the facts. We can't tell what the cause of this crash was from watching the video. RIP to all on board.

  • strong crosswind, overweight and poorly balanced

  • Looked like overweight and out of CG and the pilot continued to climb and probably stalled the plane. He was probably trying to avoid crashing the plane into the crowd of people, which was why he didn't do a controlled landing. Let this be a lesson to you student pilot's who think CG calculations are dumb.

  • 0.44

  • pilots are serious clowns, way over weight

  • looks like it was on the way to the hospital aswell, grim

  • Just to let you guys now, were all counting on you....

  • Sidewinds and too heavy....

  • All on board rest in peace... but was an avoidable accident.. wish the pilot was better at calculating take off performance... load limit and ground effect....

  • how to ba a stupid pilot? ask to this one.... lol...

  • Rest in peace....

  • @TheCapSebas more like rest in pieces

  • Overload+Bad CG+Crosswind+Density altitude=Crash 

    =s

  • arrisco dizer que houve problema com o CG

  • Very hard to say from just watching the video, but it looks like his CG was too far aft.

  • whys that bitch crying at the start ?

  • @TheFlightLog Because she had her little baby daying in the back of the airplane.

  • @elc0rsario Oh ...

  • @TheFlightLog: Because she had her little baby daying in the back of the airplane.

  • @TheFlightLog "bitch" must be your whore mother,dickhead.

  • I think this plane was overweighted! The maximum takeoff flaps set, but even that the Cessna wasn't climbing...

  • What journalist said about consequences of the accident,of course if she is talking about it ?what I'm not sure about because I don't really know the language.I don't understand Spanish language and I decided I ask

  • I heard the woman in the front seat stamped on the rudder! Don't know if thats true or not.

  • Looks like pilot error to me...I'm not a pilot myself but to me it seemed like the guy rushed the take-off and stalled, he maintained a nose-up attitude all the way to the crash, it seems. A crosswind (look at the smoke!) might be the cause of the aircraft veering off to the right moments after take off, resulting in the pilot hopelessly tring to correct instead of trying to gain more airspeed.

  • hiya Im a young girl with the most incredible smile

  • OS FLAPS BAIXADOS

  • Why did the girl cry in the first place?

  • Damn thats awful.

  • didnt even look like that bad of a crash

  • Mexicans do that in Ford Aerostars and Windstars..Next time they cross the border hopefully this will happen.

  • stupid Pilot should have known how much weight was..!

  • OVER LOADED PLANE !!!!..CASE CLOSED !!!!!

  • doooogh!!!!

    

  • THERADARVEC - YOU, Sir are a RETARD. Now get off your fat ass, your Mommy is upset you've been on that godamn Microsoft Flight Simulator since yesterday. MORON.

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  • @theradarvec did you figured that out yourself? because it is never stated in the video. BTW she was nervous because the plane was carrying her child that needed urgent medical care. They all died.

  • @theradarvec shut up ignorant, these airplanes have no "right turning tendency", get your facts straight...

  • well he's out of the envelope....

  • Wee bit of a Weight and Balance problem I see...

  • @scamper246 just slightly i would also suggest

  • :-(

  • FAIL

  • good example of leaving ground effect...

  • Weight . That's all.

  • Clearly you can see the weight of the aircraft was not equally distributed, as the hard and uncontrollable hard oscillation toward the right is indicative of. Failing to achieve the required thrust/ lift for takeoff the aircraft stalled and fell. Furthermore, weather in Colombia creates density often, thus only further compounding this planes final predicament...

  • Bad CoG and W&B, no question.

    But the pilot should have aborted at the beginning.

    I have flown out of Colombia and can tell you this.

    Density altitude changes very quickly in Colombia in places at times.

    I have picked a time to take off, based on DA and weather, and have told the people, it is now, or tomorrow.

    I took off and made my next contact only to find that the guy who waited 2 hours did not make it.

    I was running Southern Air Transport at the time.

  • ha ha ha lol time to die

    

  • 0:15 we can see a large and heavy oxigen cylinder. Also a heart monitor over it. And the doctor in the back seat. And the boy. And the have luggage. Full tanks. The cause was overload plus inbalance and the feet of the woman in the pedal

  • could be overloaded and the bad planning of the cg ,,, or can be that the women press a pedal and the airplane was uncontrolled ....... i think overload isnt because he was at the beginning

  • Pitched up too much while too heavy, also the cg was probably messed up too

  • CIA were flying out the coke 

  • Overloaded!!!???!!!

  • he should have checked his natulis

  • wie kann man auch so bescheuert sein und den Flieger so dermaßen überladen sorry aber definitiv Pilot schuld

  • Weight and Balance dude

  • I hope it was packed with americans...

  • @alan517815 your a sick fuck

    

  • Oh fuck!, i just hope no Americans were hurt :P

  • This is an aft center of gravity problem where you can't get even with speed the nose down. I have had it happen once in a 172. 2 X200lb passengers in the back and your in real trouble with lighter pilot and pax in the front. Its all set out on the CG weight and balance chart.

  • maybe they needed a better runway

  • omg

  • Pilot error probably stalled a little bit to

  • Pilot error.... Weights and Balances.... Very sad. I cried when I saw this.

  • the way the plane yawed at lift off, the lady may have had her foot on the rudder pedal. It also appears that the pilot had too much flap down causing drag. He was definitely overloaded. It is definitely the pilot's fault, but he was probably feeling the pressure and the need to go...

  • @fastone93 yes flaps position is more than 10 degres (pos 1 for take off) and moms stepping left rudder pedal ...

  • i guess too much fuel and too much people in one cessna !!

  • LOL!

  • does anyone see the kid flipping off the camera at the very start of this video.....western influence.....its bad enough we gave them all the white mans disease's. we also had to teach them the "finger".

  • @hedojake Hahahaha. I never noticed that before.

  • @hedojake what about AIDS dipshit?

  • damn, my heart goes out to the peoples family

  • LOL! that's funny

  • @Latrinesha fuck you cunt

  • @Latrinesha

    fuck u haha

  • Too much payload? And why was the pilot crying earlier in the video?

  • Goddamned third world retards are so grabasstic and careless. What the fuck were all these people in the goddamned way!!?? Why the fuck was he trying to rotate so soon??!! This was not simply a weight or balance issue. This pilot foolishly forced this plane into the air before it was ready to, and then stupidly tried to continue to climb through a stall with that nose up attitude. Ain't gonna happen. He should have shut that thing down and took his losses before he got 6ft. off the ground.

  • @PhrynosomaTexas well-put.

  • The pilot was attempting to execute a short or soft field takeoff...notice the flaps appear to be set at 10 degrees which is protocol for short/soft field Cessna 182 or 210 aircraft. He's having difficulty with an apparent left-to-right crosswind. (notice the smoke blowing left to right after the crash) It's difficult to tell if he indeed had weight and balance issues. Looks to me like he just tried to fly to soon...which is strange because it appears the dirt runway extends another 1000'.

  • @obolan Well, I don't know a thing about operating a plane, but at 0:30 the pilot tells the crying lady: "keep your feet still and away from the treadles, don't touch them at all". Maybe she colaborated in the accident. Anyway, pilot's irresponsibility is beyond words.

  • Tanto PUTO negro!!!!

  • @bvb7589 Pinche racista Hijo de p... de seguro un negro te violo de chikito...

  • Terrible weight and balance mistake! Muy triste accidente.

  • But Jim never has a second cup of coffee at home...

  • The only Silver lining in this story is that the plane was full of columbians.

  • @bvb7589 Sure! I'd love some Huevos Rancheros!

  • el piloto exedio el peso .. si no me equivoco ese es un cessna 182 de 4 pasajeros ,, el tenia 4 pasajeros mas el equipo de oxigeno mas el equipaje ,, ademas despego muy corto.. que lastima

  • you're losing altitude, pull up!!! pull up god dammit!

  • @driftae76 That's what caused the crash, he pulled up too much and due to the shitty weight balance and max payload it caused the stall.

  • well, the plane was stalled , you can't pull up when you are stalled, that woud only make it worst, you are suppose to lower the nose to brake the stall. that's what brought down that  regional airplane near buffalo. the pilot exceeded the weight.

  • @xfernydrummerX lol it was a joke guys, thats what they say in the movies "youre coming in too hot! Pull up! Pull up god dammit!!"

  • overload..

  • @skankuser haber gringo, la frontera con mexico, esta en centroamerica esto sur america, colombia no seas pendejo respeta la tragedia humana idiota.

  • @theandresv8 La tragedia humana eres TU pendejo. Puto bueno para mierda!.

  • @bvb7589 Your words show latino friend who you are, your good mother is to blame.

  • @skankuser

    fuck u haha u sick

  • If you don´t speak spanish you cant understand tthat the pilot say dont press the pedal, which is crearly what happens.

  • Poor plane...

  • :o ke impresion

  • Silly kids wings are for birds

  • no more ground effect

  • I am guessing here but I think the tank has probably become loose and kept hitting things and people including the pilot and the more the plane swings the heavier the tanks' hits became..

  • That crying bitch got on the nerves of the pilot and he crashed to plane.

    I hope that this is a lesson to women to STFU when men have to get shit done.

  • I have always wanted to know what happened in that cockpit that resulted in this. the guy flying was a ver experience pilot.

  • the sound of the crash is unnerving.

    I think maybe the tank rolled back towards the tail?

  • stop thinking you know what happened, just because you played ace combat

  • Looks like he was to heavy as well .

  • I blame the pretty lady on the tv for distracting the pilot.