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  • R.I.P DR DAVID KELLY

  • •US army interpreter Mai Pederson, a close friend and colleague of Dr Kelly's towards the end of his life, maintains that he had a medical condition: "unexplained dysphagia" - a condition that makes it very difficult to swallow pills, while food is taken without any problem.

  • @iziahlights

    Still irrelevant.

    The pathologist stated there were no signs of foul play and that he considered there was no reason to hide the autopsy report for 70 years.

    Any sinister plot would have 'wacked' him before he was identified and humiliated in a live forum.

  • On the opposite end of the argument.

    Dr Allan found components of Co-proxamol in Dr Kelly's blood consistant with the ingestion of 29 pills.

    The possibilty that the quantity found led to death though is very unlikely given the amounts found were under half of what would be classed as deadly?

  • Thames Valley police used the codename MASON for the investigation. When asked about the name they said that it was random.

    Talk about not being able to make it up. Now if that is not a very strong and obvious message to those who may be thinking about going public with sensitive information I do not know what is.

    Deeply concerning.

  • @iziahlights

    Yes, 'they' do this a lot-it's called "hidden in plain sight". The Freemasons seem obsessed with sticking it to the world cause they understand how 'our' minds work and how we simply can't connect the dots and always make excuses and believe 'their' statements somewhat (becuase of a media saturated/confused environment). They know they can get away with anything so they are forever pushing it in our faces to prove the point. and to consolidate their power/arrogance.

  • @wawei67

    I once had a Teddy Ruxpin with a defective tape player in his back.

    He talked utter bollocks as well, mate.

    You conspiracy theorists exemplify the sad little wannabes who never achieved anything beyond an ever-increasing volume on the proposition that Freemasons wield some kind of control over people.

    The only thing you can do with that amount of bullshit is possibly build affordable housing with it, mate.

  • @timpovikings

    thanks for making your mindset public. Lets us see you a little clearer in the fog haha

  • @timpovikings Perhaps you should look up "conspiracy" in the dictionary. Your stereotypical bullshit is utter nonsense aswell. Yep anyone who believes anything alternative lives in thier mothers basement and find great pleasure in power wanking over Alex Jones all the while wishing they could get a girlfriend. Never had a job and are greasy no good skinny student fuck wits right?

    You are a fucking walking stereotype chap.

  • @timpovikings Those who do not entertain an alternative version of events as a possibilty lack critical thought and the ability to abide by a neutral mindset. People lie and yes Governments do to, it is called self preservation and any person who does not question certain apparent truths is in serious need of a bit of historical knowledge.

    Teddy Ruxpin tell you that aswell funny man?

  • @iziahlights

    !!!

    Someone this upset, must be an expert.

    Far from getting into the inane musings of you sad little non-achievers, I merely expressed the view that his (supposed) murder would have made a great deal more sense before he appeared at the Select Committee.

    Home Office pathologists tend not to be open to approaches from Cold War cliches. Subcutaneous bruising to both knees is indicative of a prolonged period kneeling, not secondary evidence of a Hollywood plot. ;-)

  • @timpovikings "Far from getting into the inane musings of you sad little non-achievers"

    You should really go and see someone about your obvious superiority complex. An adult conversation is difficult to partake in with someone who is obviously suffering from a lack of accurate perspective. Your sarcasm also reeks of immaturity. On the death of Mr Kelly your lack of neutrality is completely undermining any potential argument as your stance on the subject is defined by your posts.

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  • @timpovikings I can cope with that and anything else you wish to post. Truth is you are probably feeling like a giant tit. When you control all things internet I may heed your advice until then I will post when and where I please. Understand?

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  • @timpovikings Wow. Did you come up with that all by yourself. Not only do you post absolute bollocks when serious but your jokes are shit aswell.

    I would answer you questions but they are so shit that I really can not be bothered. Better get some better Mother jokes of Google, Let me know when you have some better ones yes?

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  • @timpovikings Yep it takes me that long to wipe your mothers cum of my bedsheets!

    How long was that one numbnuts?

  • @iziahlights

    

    David Kelly was set up, humiliated, used and let down.

    He was not murdered in a field.

  • @timpovikings Other than the existence of three blister packs with 29 pills missing found at the death scene, there is no real indication that Dr Kelly took all 29 pills, voluntarily or otherwise. There is more evidence that he did not.

    At the Hutton Inquiry, forensic toxicologist Dr Richard Allan, clearly stated that he found only a fifth of one tablet in Dr Kelly's stomach. He did not find the residue of anything approaching 29 pills.

  • @iziahlights

    Irrelevant.

    Empty blisters are nothing more than evidence of....empty blisters. Nothing sinister in that.

    Kelly was a potential target before he appeared in the Select Committee. Arguably, the greatest danger he posed was at that public hearing.

  • @timpovikings I agree with your point regarding the Select Comittee hearing but suspicion would of been far greater had anything suspect of been acted out beforehand. One could argue that once that hearing had taken place damage control was imperative.

    Of course it is all conjecture as solid proof does not exist as is almost always the case with such occurances. The anomalies are truly evident though.

  • @iziahlights

    If no-one has seen anomalies in the autopsy, there are no anomalies.

    The opportunity to kill him presented itself before he appeared at the SC at which time he could have expanded on the damage already done in Gilligan's article. Blair's priority was to rubbish the source. When it turned out to be a weapons inspector, nothing could be changed by killing him.

    Blair was white, haunted and stunned the day his body was found.

    Suicide - after public humiliation.

  • @timpovikings Tony Blair has much blood on his hands. I disagree with your implication that the man was particularly distressed at the news that Mr Dr Kelly had been found dead. An act and nothing more, a tried and tested manipulation in my opinion.

    Cynical? .. maybe, but given the evident correct nature of Dr Kelly's testimony I tend to have little respect for Mr Blair.

    That aside I believe much could be changed and gained by ridding the world of one of the most respected

    opponents to the war

  • @iziahlights

    No, Blair changed that day. He acquired a 'look' that he still has today.

    The only one to gain from Kelly's murder was Blair - and no sane PM would risk setting that up over a series of words unattributed to any open and recognised (anonymous) source (and I know of no evidence that any PM has ever had access to this recourse) because anyone aware of this could write his own cheque.

    Gilligan should have kept schtum - or found all of his missing notes!

  • @iziahlights

    Three people should have sleepless nights today over this; Gilligan, Blair and Geoff Hoon.

    Kelly was wrong to speak to Gilligan knowing an anonymous article would follow.

    Gilligan (IMHO) is lying about what was said by Kelly.

    Hoon delighted in the multiple choice revelation of who the source for "sexed up" was and delighted in the process which saw the man trashed in public.

    Hoon is an arse-kissing, corrupt second rater and he should live in shame.

  • No, he did not. Thanks for telling the truth Dr, Kelly. Our children thank you.

  • A very commendable video, and description, by the way. Thank you.

  • R.i.P. David Kelly.

    The man had been involved in wrong doing over a period before he decided to write his book. But then, he saw that his best chance for truth in life was in his book that never came. The wrong doing was him being side tracked by other forces. It's a thug thing, in the seams of society, lawmakers and so on. Then, you saw what happened. They're very tight indeed.

  • just one more reason to eliminate the corrupt murderers that are trying so hard to cover-up the lies.unfortunetly you cant reason with insane people there actions are of insane people.im sorry for the david kelley family that has to liuve with the thoughts that they mite be next to be suicided by the government also everyone that was invalved with mr.kelley has to be looking over there shoulders very sad.a pill is going to seem humane compared to the terminators phase plasma rifle 40 watt range

  • oK. Log my details. According to inside information, I am also about to be "silenced". If anyone's interested or even better, available to help- my direct work line is Leeds- two eight nine zero nine nine one

  • Makes me sad to be British.

    Stop the world, I want to get off. (but, no doubt, the Moon probably has crooked government too!)

  • i dont mean to pry, but where exactly is the proof that he is tied to mossad? also, we already know the intel was "sexed up", since the "intel" was from ahmad chalabi, of the INC. the pseudo-intelligence group that Luti was heading passed Chalabi's bogus info to Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, Feith, who was directly in communication with "Scooter" Libby, who was chairman of the Office of the Vice President, Dick Cheney. Cheney gives it to congress, media, the Pres. etc.. and the Iraq War

  • No fingerprints were found on the pills, knife or water bottle and he wasn't wearing gloves. Check out my video on it watch?v=BnOiul0sXpo

  • what happened to the family dog that he was walking.

  • @theheathmould - that's a very good question.

  • @theheathmould you got any reference for him walking a family dog? I don't remember it and can't find anything in the reports etc.

  • @archdukemaximilian

    I'm afraid some of these sad people live in a world where the government can have people 'wakced' when they get too close to the big secret. Unfortunately, Kelly had done all he could do and was - I feel - let down by Gilligan and the BBC. To some it's all about the Masons and tree circles and Ley Lines.

    I doubt Mr Hoon sleeps well at nights and the whole shitty mess was because Blair had to rubbish a source that made him look dirty. WMD my ass!

  • @archdukemaximilian

    Sorry....."wacked".

  • @theheathmould

    RUTH ABSALOM was walking a dog when she met him going for his walk.

    

    He was alone.

  • It is also more than likely that Gilligan recorded a lot more than was aired in his "sexed up" piece, or was even told of more specific evidence negating the worth of the dossier. Wouldn't that make him more of a risk?

    I might also mention that the 45 minutes claim is said to have come from a taxi driver, according to Adam Holloway!

    We went to war on hearsay.

  • There is not one crumb of murder evidence.

    Most people - I suggest - would opt to kill the source of dissent before bringing the guy in to face the cameras before a Select Committee. I might also suggest that trained, Govrenment killers would know how to 'scam' a suicide by wrist cutting.

    The little that has been said about his auotopsy, indicates that subcutaneous examination of the knees showed pressure bruising, ie he spent some time on his knees prior to death.

    Murder, my ass.

  • @timpovikings - little has been said about the autopsy probably because it's under wraps - for seventy years.

    I'm maybe missing something, but the bruising to the knees you refer to - what does that indicate? -He was praying?

  • @1966BOBBY

    This was given out on a Radio 4 item. Subcutaneous examination was performed on areas where 'sub-skin' artifacts indicated something other than hypostasis: in this case, his knees, which showed he had spent a considerable time on his knees, possibly more than two hours, immediately prior to death.

    Having cut his wrist he would be unlikely to walk around, leaving sitting or kneeling as his options as he weakened and the life drained out of him.

  • @1966BOBBY

    The Radio 4 item was on a PM broadcast with Michael Gaunt.

    How do we know about the senior police officer and the Operation Mason timings?

  • @timpovikings there is a perfectly simple explanation of the operation timing, which you can find in Norman Baker's book, namely that the police created the operation when they received the missing person call from the wife (around 9.00pm), but back-dated the start of it to the time when he was presumed to have gone missing. Apparently it's standard procedure. The maker of this video seems to have an active imagination - he also makes up the stuff about Kelly's 'last phone call'.

  • @1966BOBBY down on his knees with a gun in the back of his head perhaps?

  • @timpovikings  hmmmmmm ...

  • @timpovikings You have no videos up but you joined in 2008... no comments, no favourites, no history of activity on yt... just wondering why this has grabbed your attention so vehemently all of a sudden. Not at all getting at you, but curious, that's all. PEACE. Smith

  • @doNOTvoteCAMPAIGN

    I'm usually to be found on holocaust denial threads, where I post against the deniers and CTs daily. Try...

    "Holocaust - "The Big Lie" (translate to english)"

    This has grabbed my attention since it began, but recent news items are really giving it a sinister slant which I don't think is warranted. Whilst I have seen autopsies, sinister and otherwise, I keep an open mind - but HO pathologists know the difference between suicide and 'made-to-look-like-suicide'.

  • @timpovikings ok thanks I will have a look as I'm interested in the subject anyway (deniers I mean). Thanks again fro the info

  • @timpovikings

    sore knees!--looks like your prejudices have solved the case haha

  • @wawei67

    

    !? What prejudices, bright lad?.

  • @timpovikings

    Your prejudicial belief that we live in the most innocent of possible worlds and that that belief system needs no justification for its statements/prejudices.

  • world reknown expert so mentally unstable he kills himself ? who the fuk do they think they are kidding ?

    ASSASINATION BY THE STATE

  • What the hell is this awful music doing in this video?

  • Great apart from the idiotic music.

  • @shofaruk - the song is Harrowdown Hill by Thom Yorke - it's about the murder of Kelly, so thought it was appropriate - still, it's all a matter of taste I guess.

    Glad you like the film anyway.

  • Actually it was Thames Valley Police who gave the name Operation Mason.

  • The smoking gun? Why is there a 70 year block on details of David Kelly's autopsy?

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  • i think kelly was murdered but i don't think that he was ever going to write a book. his demeanor during the proceedings showed that he was not used to this type of media attention and i think he would've avoided that any way he could. a book would've changed his life completely. but i do think that the government killed him because of the false 45-minute claim.kelly might not have thought that the gov did it on purpose but they killed him to take precautions.

  • @breakdancebrooklyn I think you might be worng about this. It's been reported that he had a few meetings with publishers about a 'ghost written' book to expose the things that were (and are) goijng too far in the world of bio-weapons. It's true that wars can be won and countries defeated and crushed without a shot being fired or indeed a declaration of war. This is because the bio-weapons (also weather manipulating weapons) have evolvled to an alarming degree. It troubled him greatly.

  • @doNOTvoteCAMPAIGN - thanks, that sounds like a believable assertion. It's like wading through mud trying to get at some semblance of the truth. Appreciate your comment.

  • @1966BOBBY not at all. I know how you feel. It can be extremely depressing if you start on that particular journey. Just remember you're never alone. There are millions of us wading through the same mud/doggie-poops trying to make sense of incomprehensible lies and dis-info. We have each other and we have our brains/hearts/intuition/natura­l talent and plain old common sense. We can piece this together and fight back.

  • Blair and Campbell have blood on their hands!

  • PlayMistDye = He 'cutted himself'?? Are you sure that's English?

    I mean, obviously we're the retards, but I think that should probably read: 'cut himself'.

    Anyway, thanks for your insightful comment.

    by the way, Kelly is the only man in history to actually commit suicide by cutting just the ONE wrist.

    Feel free to spell-check my comment.

  • I think you should be told that Wikipedia is NOT a research resource anyone can rely upon for facts. It is updated by members of the public with various abilities and agenda. It should never be your first port of call when researcging serious subjects that may be shrouded in propaganda and subtifuge

  • Class B trolling. Try again.

  • Yeah, because everything on Wiki is all true. You are so naive!

  • @PlayMistDye

    well!wikipedia hOw insightful...

  • @PlayMistDye disproved Im afraid even without autopsy. No evidence to support that illusion. Wrist cutting is not at all a serious way to commit suicide. It takes far too long to die and the congealing of blood at the site orf injury congeals readily. This is a problem with arterial lines which we use in hospital. A group of doctors have constantly tried to get Dr Kelly exhumed as they belive collectively that his death is suspicious.

  • ethnically specific chemical warfare has already been researched heavily by the souh African government in conjunction with the UK and US governments. It was called project coast and was done under the false prentents of trying to discover a cure for AIDS. It's actual purpose was to develope weapons to attack certain gene pools. Dr David kelly was sent over along with a US micro-biologist to help with the work. It is unknown whether a weapon was produced.

  • @TruthMediaRadio thanks for posting this 

  • The same people killed princess diana. They are ruthless.

  • I believe that Leigh Day and Co are going to do just as good a job of covering up the Kelly murder as they are doing in covering up the Stafford Hospital mass murder and the Islington child abuse!

  • I truly believe that Dr Kelly was murdered he was going to blow the whistle on the dodgy iraq dossier and someone ordered to have him silenced, now if i had info on the goverment that would make them look corrupt i would be found dead maybe suicide or a fatal ''accident'' our goverment and the us goverment are the most corrupt in the world 9/11 was carried out by the us goverment so much evidence but it will never be proven!!!

  • @nitrogas85

    There is no evidence of murder.

    I also think that having revealed his name some time after learning it, it's a bit pointless bringing the man before a televised Select Committee and then deciding to kill him while he was at home.

    Any half-decent conspiracy would also have ensured that enough ambiguous hardware was then 'found' in Iraq, thereby proving the 'intelligence' line which Kelly merely cast doubt on.

    He had already done his worst in offering an opinion.

  • @timpovikings disagree that he had done his worst. His proposed ghost written book would have caused extreme difficulties for those involved in the race specific/anthrax etc bio-weapons programme he wanted to expose. He got as far as meetings with a publisher, who said to him (a couple of weeks before his death), "you've signed the official secrets act. You'll never get away with it, David"...

  • @doNOTvoteCAMPAIGN

    And what is the source for the book information? I think it a little 'previous' to speculate on what it would contain and what impact it would have - unless of course, the publisher came forward and told someone.

    If there is a direct quote, there must be a name attached.

  • @timpovikings The source is Norman Baker's book and interviews and sevreal documentaries that have been made since the event. In Norman Baker's video (about the book contents) he interviews the publisher.

  • Whilst it's a horrifying thought that plans are probably in place to terminate most of the world's population, has it really ever been different? The Romans at Masada, the Rusians, the Germans, Genghis Khan, the Egyptians, etc. Mankind is just not very nice. Same thing, different option. Now it's microbial, no difference to any of the above, except this could be more deadly. The World Domination Game!

    I repeat, I just hope I'm in the right group . . .

  • There is something very, very wrong about Dr Kelly's death, one only has to see the superb articles by David Halpin in the Morning Star. So called democracies have shown before they are capable of murder when it suits them - (Spains murder of ETA activists, the death of Andreas Baader and his associates in Germany). Now this. Tony Blair headed the most corrupt government Britain has ever known, it doesn't require much to imagine what such people would do to a man who threatened to expose them.

  • Agreed. And they just slapped a 70 year holding order (under Official Secrets Act) on the release of the post-mortem. That doesn't stink much, does it?

  • @MrHistoryman45 I agree with you about all except those who (may have) done this may have needed to keep the PM out of it so he can honestly say he knows nothing (as they do with the puppet presidents in USA). The other thing I would say is, if they are as powerful as this, no amount of 'enquiries' will get to the bottom of this cess pool of filth and corruption. They will have covered their tracks a hundred times over and more money will be wasted to find out shit all.

  • i think that where we are going with this is that viruses will be manufactured that will target the people that governments want to get rid of.

    In a few years time the population wil have gone up another bilion, when we know we can only cater for less than 2 billion on Earth, long term. So about 6 bilion have to leave us. Perhaps aids, perhaps H1N1, were the beginnings, the trials, perhaps they were meant to be the real thing.

    Just hope you're in the right group . . . .

  • @winemeister The germ warfare research labs in the US, Israel and Russia were supposed to have been set up during the cold war for that purpose. The cold war is long gone and yet the labs are still doing their work without our "free press" paying any attention. These weapons are being develop for a reason. The media keeps predicting we are about due for a natural pandemic, like theyre predicting the arrival of a train. The elite will come out unscathed but how they will select the survivors?

  • @winemeister You may be right, friend, sorry to say it. H1N1 may have been training. Mexicans died but we (for now) survived the strain. They may be practicing with race/genetically targeted diseases to see how we stand up. Be prepared for that. Your government has done much worse things. You'e not safe if you believe what they tell you. Evidence: look at any supermarket shelf. Choose a food that's safe to eat. Look at your grandmother's medication list. Read the contra-indication sheet & weep.

  • Today the gov just ruled that his post Morten details wont be released for 70 years, These people are ruthless

  • very intersting video

  • The man wasn't innocent. Anyone involved in germ warfare experiments isn't really very nice.

    But it seems his conscience kicked in and he decided to grass the Labour Government off. That's the way so called democracy works. It's just a word, the West knows nothing about democracy.

  • Democracy simply means "Mob Rule".

    It's sterling feature is not perfection, but rather it's ability to change goverment's by the ballot, not bullet...

  • Maybe so, but democratically elected governments are not free of corruption and if it suits their needs I have no doubts murder would be within their remit.

  • Interesting point, YuJin. Only problem is why then do all these so called democratic governments seem to be constantly at war somewhere in the world.

    And look at the USA where everyone carries guns, they even use them in snowball fights.

    Wish it were the case that the ballot replaces the bullet.

    Take Afghanistan, we're likely to be in Afghanistan for some years to come.

    All in the name of making them a democracy, of course. Just like we did with Iraq??????

  • Well, Kelly and all at Porton Down were officially at least working on developing vaccines for biological weapons - it was pure DEFENCE that Kelly was working on.

  • Sorry if I got it wrong re. Mr Kelly, then.

    But the guys who develop germ warfare are from the same profession as his.

  • Well yeah, tho' I was careful to say 'officially at least' 'cos we just don't know. It's all shrouded in secrecy. That he was concerned the public should know that they were lied to over Iraq and also concerned about the proliferation of anthrax suggests to me that he was a good man.

  • Democracy huh, Democracy is the worst than Communism because democracy is a backstabber if you dare to expose its dirty secret.

  • oooh i love that line!!!

  • Great vid. Poor man. One of so many who learn the hard way that the only exit from collaboration with "The Dark Side" is feet first.

  • great clip

  • Kelly was all for world gov'. He was even a part of the U.N. official faith (cult), b'hai. He just thought they were going about it's creation the wrong way????

    Then again, if you happen to be a micro biologist with the ability to trace the bio-weapon and from whence it came, start sweating because they're dropping like flies.

  • The dark and secret forces are being exposed everywhere. Soon it will all be out in the open.

  • No way i had no idea that Doctors were speaking out. See how easily the public brought the lie, it made no sense at all.

    The family, what happens do they get threatened and paid off.

  • Thanks for bringing us up to speed on this, Steve.

  • Telling truth to power comes @ a high risk.

  • just like they did to micheal J

  • Sure as hell he was murdered. The West is no longer a haven for democracy. The USA and the UK are the most corrupt of all nations.

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