I used to be 50/50 on gi/nogi and I gradually began to like training in gi MUCH more because it seems to help my technical details much more while not hurting my nogi.
Fuck gi. Fuck no-gi. Guys, seriously. Just do your grappling. All the time you spend on the internet arguing about shit that doesn't matter could be spent on the mat having fun.
one of the places i train at has a split class. people who do no gi stay in no gi and train only that. and people in the gi class usually only train gi. but i tell everyone to train both. it also makes me feel really good when guys who have only been training for 3 months in gi go and smash on guys that have been training for over a year.
@Mrkmassa gi idiots? You obviously don't know shit about jiu jitsu eddies students train only no gi and wen was the last time u heard of one of them making it to adcc or doing good at any high level no gi comp??
Every technique has a technique to defend it rubber guard to doesn't mean I don't use it on someone who isn't expecting it I think you should gain as much knowlege as possibe never know when u might use certain techniques and "you must train with the gi to have the finest technique"-marcelo garcia no gi champ
@mrkmassa it is a high guard, eddie got the concept from jj machado who is one of those "gi idiots". your telling me rubber guard is not a high guard? go try out a bjj school roll with the guys nogi good luck bud.
@massnerder1 i know that was sarcasm but their is a interview, where eddie himself. says that jj machado gave him the idea with the style of high guard he played because he could only use one hand. look up the interview and don't be a dip shit over the internet faggot.
@massnerder1 oh and jj machado is not some brazilian, he is a jiu jitsu master, who promoted eddie bravo to black belt in the gi. eddie trained under him for nearly a decade. he was promoted to red and black belt by rickson gracie and is a legend of the sport. I know you are uneducated but please learn to respect the people who helped make this sport.
im a huge eddie bravo fan, and i also hate training with a gi. but i agree with draculino gi fighting is more tricky you really need skills . and helps you for street situations aswell cus if you can choke someone with a gi you can also choke someone with their jacket or sweater wich is more common for ppl to wear in street situations
I train jiujitsu for 1 year and I have all the dvd's from eddie and all the dvd from draculino plus the Renzo gracie and kukuk ...people! I use Draculinos passes and counters all the time he is a perfect professor I am not even talking about his skills witch are great... I respect all off them but the techniques that eddie teaches are not for everybody, you really really need flexibility to pull it off and once you get older you can't do it any more....draculinos techniques work for everybody!
First off its "rubber guard"not high guard and the only reason your passing the rubber guard so easily is cause their more then likely not playing it right.. "Traditional" jiu jitsu is great but a combination of the both is even deadlier...btw jiujitsu originated in Japan... Are the Japanese bashing bjj?
Love the dog fight though!!! I take pieces of all styles. Some rubber guard system, open guard. To hate Eddie bravo.... Can't do it. But the style isn't fully for me. Works for others... Hell yea... More power to them ;)
I agree. Eddie bravo's system is ehhh. Not for everyone. I have gone with a lot of rubber guard players. High guard... But good posture... I always pass... Using traditional, high level, bjj is better.
for me the pro of using a gi to practice is that you accustom yourself to defending several more submissions that involve the gi and at the same time all the nogi moves, when you roll without a gi after that you have less going through your head, less moving pieces if you will
draculino's fact is not quite correct.the world champs are gi users, hoever, gi is and has been a lot more developed and many if not most people train in it. just a matter of ratio. no gi is less developed with fewer individuals doing it, nevermind competing at a top level. both good, gi and no gi, you will find that going from gi to no is quite difficult, but easyer the other way around
Guys, please open your eyes!!! Nobody are saying you don't need to do no gi, of course we do nogi too but, but if you used to do gi, the nogi game will me smooth and probably more tight than the one who only do nogi. Draculino is very right, who has a mouth can say whatever they want.
But just like Draculino said, check the facts, just check the facts, ok??
@scarso55555 I have and do train with the gi. To be fair Eddie Bravo did start out in the gi but if you watch his twister dvd he talks about not useing the gi even in gi tournaments, rely on under and overhooks and clinching.
I respectfully disagree. Gi or no gi its still jiu jitsu and training either way will help your bjj game, but its like if I wanted to be good at baseball I practice with a bat and a baseball, not a tennis racket and a volleyball. Being excellent at defending against a lapel choke doesn't help me in a situation where there is no lapel.
@draculinoTeamT Assuming that its either cold enough for a jacket or everyone is wearing tshirts made from unrippable cotton/steal bend, wearing a gi for no gi or MMA training still doesn't make sense
Go take an old t-shirt, scruntch it in both hands and then try and rip it apart. Its stronger than you think. When you SCRUNTCH the collar up at the neck, the shirt doesn't rip easily and you can apply most chokes. You were talking about self defense. Now, for MMA training, of course you want to do no gi training, but the gi still keeps your defense game sharp. If you can escape a guy who is using handles on you....when you take the handles off, you feel like superman.
when you practice everyday in a situation where a guy can attack you with 100's of attacks and can hold you anywhere and you apply techniques that escape these handles and avoid these attacks...when you take the gi off you feel better because you can slide out of more attacks, you can pass easier, you have less attacks to worry about etc. The point is its beneficial, not that you should rely on it entirely. Our stance has always been to train both.
@GrandMasterBrent have you ever trained gi? its so much harder. carlson gracie sr didnt let his guys train no gi till they were purple belts, you pick up bad habits from no gi. marcelo garcia didnt train no gi untill 10 days before adcc and he won. eddie bravo learned with a gi on and is just trying to make money
@GrandMasterBrent im afraid your wrong. i use to think this but i do gi now and it improves ur technique so much because its a slower game and u have time to think about it. Marcelo Garcia believes that to and he is the best in the world so im goin 2 listen to wot he is sayin :P
@GrandMasterBrent THATS NOT WHAT ITS ABOUT. ITS UNDERSTANDING THE FUNDAMENTAL TECHNIQUE OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING, so you know the true technique you are able to dilute to fit your game (nogi)
@GrandMasterofwhatBrent Gotta Agree with Drac 100%. My teacher in NYC Marcelo Garcia just won ADCC for the 4th time. First guy ever,considered the best nogi grappler by many. He trained Gi in his training camp along with Cobrinha,ryan hall,Gabi and Antonio Peinado everyday preparing for ADCC,Gi and Nogi everyday. The Gi keeps nogi sharp in Marcelo's words ,they help each other.
I gotta disagree here, when you grapple with a gi you have more handles to grab on to(lapel,sleeve,etc) in MMA you won't have those to rely on. The self defense aspect of it the gi isn't practical either, someone starts a fight with you on the streets in a tshirt the most of the gi game goes out the window
My friend, you are wrong. I have shown my friend how easy most chokes are, even in a t-shirt. Especially when you bundle the t-shirt up in your hand. It becomes strong and doesn't rip. The problem with training chokes with t-shirts is they rip more often yanking and pulling in a full hour class. That doesn't mean chokes wont work ONCE in the street. I put a friend to sleep with a loop choke in a t-shirt who doubted me and wanted to see.
...in addition, a lot of this world is cold or with cool weather. Even California is cool or cold most nights and Jackets or long sleeve t-shirts are VERY common. Then the gi is then 100% applicable. A guy who trains no gi exclusively having someone yanks and hold his jacket would be like a fish out of water.
@GrandMasterBrent Thats not true most of the street fights ive been in Ive been able to detroy people by useing there shirts or tank tops against them.
Like he said look at the facts ... Jus look at the best in the world....since Bjj was created .... We can all argue our opinions but the facts are facts, and don't forget Bjj was created for self defense on the street .. N most of the time we have clothes on :-), we can all think and say what we want.. but the fact is none of us here debating are world champions in MMA or BJJ ...oh! N one more thing I'm not a student of professor Draculinos but I was at a seminar by one of his students B
Stupid drac is? Lol, stupid why? Because he said eddie has a good system? Stupid because he has been practicing jiu-jitsu for over 25 years...which is longer than have the people training have even been alive. He knows more about jiu-jitsu than you do your own life. Draculino was winning tournaments as a brown belt when eddie bravo was putting a stripe on his white belt.....don't call him stupid, especially when it comes to jiu-jitsu.
Except that 10th Planet Jiujitsu, originally, is called BJJ for MMA. And now, many MMA fighters are coming out saying they don't use the GI. Nog, Frank Mir, Jake Shields, G-Sot, guys who KILL guys no longer using the gi. Them saying it makes them too lazy. Why would I want to learn to escape sleeve grips if I'll never have a sleeve for him to grab? Why would I waste my time?
Theres a reason the champs are wrestlers and not Judo guys. The gi doesn't do shit.
@Dhuman571 what are you talking about? nog still teaches, and trains in the gi all the time, he even holds all gi seminars, jake shields trains in the gi all the time, he is under caesar gracie he makes his guys train in the gi. the gi makes you smart, it slows everything down, If you can escape someone's guard in the gi, then when you take the gi off they have what 90 percent less attacks. trust me every no gi world champion in bjj trains in the gi, every adcc champ trains in the gi.
That is simply untrue. Jake Shields is INCREDIBLY well known for having never trained in the gi. He got his black belt from Caesar without the gi. Look up any interview from him. I never said Nog didn't train in the gi, he just made powerful statements AGAINST needing the gi to be good without it. Look it up. It's all on youtube.
The fact is, the gi does not make you smart. Grappling makes you smart. Being out on the mat and practicing makes you smart.
@Dhuman571 so defending, all the grips, all the chokes, all the extra submissions does not make you more aware and smarter? tell this to every adcc (most prestigious no-gi grappling tournament in the world) champion. cause they all train in the gi, rafa mendes, cobrinha, marcelo, roger, jacare, all the worlds best p4p grapplers train in the gi plain and simple, not something you can deny, it is a fact, please get off my balls, you have never trained in the gi, or been on a mat with talent.
Actually, I have trained in the gi. You don't know who I am, where I train, and ect. Don't get mad at me because of what these powerful voices have said, and you being wrong about guys you THOUGHT backed the gi up.
Yes, training to guard against gi chokes makes you smarter, at guarding gi chokes, not at guarding anything else. If anything, it makes you pick up habits you may not need. Truely you can admit that may be true.
@Dhuman571 your an idiot, just use facts, look at mma champions, Jacare, Nick diaz, Gsp, Anderson Silva, Shogun, all have their black belts in the gi. ok look at every ADCC CHAMPION! (surely you know what adcc is) all bjj black belts in the gi, look at every bjj nogi worlds at the black belt level. All black belts in the gi. if you have trained in the gi who are you affiliated with? and what belt rank are you?
@Dhuman571 Why waste time in the gi? Because people wear clothing. If you are interesting in purely sport fighting then live it up and do nothing but no gi. It will suck to be you when you don't know how to grip fight when someone grabs your clothing.
But the argument is that if you want to do MMA and nogi grappling, that you should only train nogi. Eddie Bravo has said if you're training for self-defense, then you should train in the gi and without it. No one is arguing that. The argument is: Do you need to train in the gi to be good at no gi? Which, the answer is, no.
i think eddie bravo just brings some different tools to the equation, nothing super new im sure his students still work all the bjj basics.
and as for the gi vs no-gi, plenty of gi practitioners have been able to translate their bjj skills to mma and no-gi. To say training with a gi is pointless is pretty ignorant.
hahaha i really enjoyed watching this. Draculino is the man and he has the right to speak and doesnt brag about it. PRAISE all grappling. No Gi, Gi...Judo, Wrestling, Sombo..Love them all and im thankful they exist for all humankind to enjoy and live.
Gi teaches you to grip the collar and sleeve and creates bad habits that you have to then break to transition your JJ to MMA. It doesn't matter if you realize it or not, but in the heat of the moment after you've been grabbing sleeves and collars for years and now you're rocked and confused, you're going to revert back to what you know and find yourself lost.
If your goal is MMA competition, I see no reason to take up the gi unless you really enjoy it.
The only reason the guys with the gi have better records is because eddie bravo is fairly new i think he only has one black belt give it time george represents his jiu jitsu well.
@2submit Dude i said eddie bravos style of jiu jitsu is new and he only has a few black belts out there. Hes only been teaching it for a short time. I never said he invented no gi jiu jitsu.
@lilsm555 If you mean George Sots, he was a John Will black belt (gi-based) for years before he switched to 10th Planet. Most of Bravo's 'successes' are people who have changed to his system and still heavily rely on their BJJ training. George's passing ability is the strongest feature of his game and has nothing to do with Bravo.
@lilsm555 bravo has his system about 10 yrs now,there are black belt bjj world champs who havent even been training that long.Sotiropoulus was already a black in bjj before he met eddie.
Draculino is hilarious, and I really want to train with him if I ever visit Texas. His points all ring true: especially his opinions regarding gi vs no gi training.
well you cant argue that rubber guard is better guard to play for mma then a regualar guard, u talk less damage!! unless u have grip strength like mintauro then its def a safer guard to play. I mean look at george s. he like never gets hit when someone is in his guard
@tylerdurdin i agree with you completely bro... i wish these 2 different aspects of jits would stop resisting each other, and develop 2gether. the world always changes, we need to change as one or we'll just segregate. segregation and prejudice lead to dead ends end negativity, just passing new doors this art can go through ; revolutions happen for a reason and open minds open doors. EVERYTHING can become better, i share the dream that this will happen with ALL forms of jiu jitsu...
@tylerdurdin not that bjj, gjj, eddie bravo's view point and all view points of jiu jitsu in between aren't already beautiful arts in and of themselves; its just that i cant help but wonder what jiu jitsu will be like 2moro, if we all have open minds 2day. --but above all, i have the utmost respect and love for eddie, draculino, and everyone who loves and respects jiu jitsu...
Eddie bravo is the best. Stop hating, Joe rogan is A brown belt under Eddie and Jean Jacques Machado . and Eddie is also a black belt under Jean Jacques Machado. Eddie has never said one rude thing about royler gracie, and considers him a BJJ legend
The opposite can be said...Its good to train having to escape submissions where a guy is gripping your sleeves and has friction and get so good with your technique that not even these grips can hold you..... then go into an mma fight and realize you can slip out of anything and he has nothing to control you with.
@DraculinoTeamTx I was just about to post a comment saying that I'm a massive Eddie Bravo fan but I disagree about doing exclusivly no gi because it can make you lazy with transitions and submission defenses. It's a lot easier to slip out of an armbar/triangle/rear naked choke when then only thing holding you there is a sweaty arm as opposed to a vice grip on a handle-like sleeve. Gi teaches you to be a lot more patient and efficient with your Jiu Jitsu. great interview and answers by the way :)
@DraculinoTeamTx You're wrong. No gi is actually more difficult to do because in if you have the gi, you can just grab the sleeve and get a nice grip which you can't do on the streets or in MMA. Also, on the streets and in MMA, you can't choke with the gi.
@trabideau no bjj lad goes into a fight without training lots of wrestling,no gi and striking,that doesnt happen anymore.Also,almost anyone i know that does bjj does gi and no gi.Ive never worn a gi for 10 yrs until last year and ive improved in escapes and passing since then.No gi improves sub finishes and top control more
1moreroundbrother,at the end of the day rubber guard has been around for over 10 years and it has really done nothing.look at the the champs in ufc brock,shogun,silva,gsp and edger..none of these guys use rubber guard but there somehow champs.pride champs like Coleman, Wanderlei Silva , Fedor ,Shogun , Henderson, Gomi ,
Cro Cop and Misaki do not use it either and they where all champs.maybe rubber guard needs more time to evole. 98%of bjj champs dont use rubber guard.it just a fad.
@xabovethisworldx its not a fad,its been used before eddie even began training but eddie has a whole system based around with.Its very creative and has worked very well for those who focus on it enough and are very flexible .The rubber guard is often seen in mma as a defensive position but subs off it are rare,aoki is the major exception.
@billysue2 <-- 10th planet purple belt, the reason you dont see many submissions out of the guard is because there are very few 10th planet brown belts and only 2 10th planet black belts not including eddie. Most people just learn mission control and thats it because they dont care to learn the rest of the system and 9 times out of 10 they`re technique is shit. Perfect example is dan hardy vs. GSP, people dont use the guard because they think it just helps with getting hit.
YamaRider93 a lot of guys use rubber guard,but name one guy besides shitty aoki who uses it well and has pulled out subs in mma bigger cards?its a ridding position when you wanna wear out and possibly stop some punches you use it.With gi you can still break people post down you just need to use it right.i love jiu jitsu just think rubber guard is wack but i love no gi been doing it for 4 years as well as gi.when a baddass rubber guard guy comes thru to mma then we will see.
Aoki is a great example, but why come up with more when you're probably going to call them shitty ? you already sound biased and closed minded. Dustin Hazelett has used it with success. So has Matt Horwich. George Sotiropoulos is a quickly rising star in the UFC's 155 lb division. He'll go against other jiu-jitsu guys and dominate them on the ground. In his rubber guard he takes no damage and can sweep with the omoplata off of the rubber guard. Gi guys get punched in the face.
Search Travis Wright on youtube. His wins show how wrong you are. It's way more than a riding position. Yes you can wear out a guy and stop all power punches. It's not 100 % of course just like any guard. But it is the best way to be offensive and defensive.
i respect eddie because he has a great jiu jitsu and beat a legend like royler when he was just purple..but when he answered this Drac interwiew with his iron sheick interwiew was not so fair, and Drac answered that anyone who had something to say has to say to his face, if tx is too far away he was available for the l.a. bjj world championship, i think Drac can kick eddie's ass..why eddie does not go on the mat with him for a grappling fight and see what happen?
It definately favors gi bjj players now because exclusive nogi bjj players are just now emerging. Facts? what facts do you have that supports that Gi BJJ is more applicable to adcc or mma than NOGI? I train 50/50 gi/nogi, but during periods where multiple gym members have fights, we train exclusively NOGI. Thats because as fight is NOGI. Maybe im missing something.
Draculino seems like a really awesome guy,i think rubber guard is very overated and complete garbage for the most part.He speaks the truth gi and no gi are both essential in the bjj and mma today.
@xabovethisworldx , I agree that Draculino is awesome. But The Rubber guard is not overated. It is highly touted because of it's effectiveness in MMA. Wrist control is often hard to maintain in MMA due to the sweat and vaseline. The rubber guard is a great way to break down your opponents posture in MMA. As for the Gi/ No Gi thing, Eddie's views are quite understandable: If your sole purpose for training Jiu-Jitsu is for MMA, then why use the Gi. No-Gi is all that is essential for MMA.
@MoonBHAA - And yet, Hughes already dominated Royce & Renzo, Saku destroyed 4 gracie members, Eddie tapped out Royler (ADCC 2003), Brock destroyed Mir (BB BJJ)... Doesn't sound dominate to much to me!? :D
One legend losing to a triangle, doesn't mean jiu jitsu is reigning king over all martial arts!! XD
@xchargerOUx if it wasnt for jiu jitsu and the creation of the ufc (gracie family)...all those names you mentioned would be nowhere.....oh snap....mma was created as an organized sport because of jiu jitsu...XD
@MoonBHAA - MMA was being established way before the Gracie's started the UFC.. Jim Arvanitis, Bruce Lee, Dan Inosanto, Gene Lebell, Benny Urquidez, Vale Tudo fighers were more complete fighters than the gracie's could dream of. I take Jiu Jitsu, a very beautiful art. But don't act like MMA came into existence because of Jiu Jitsu. The whole purpose was style vs style, and even Rorion admitted that the UFC became entirely different from his view point.
@xchargerOUx .mma was created as an organized sport because of jiu jitsu......noone gave a jizz about mma before the gracies created UFC and Dana took interest in jiu jitsu, Dana took in the idea of mma and today we have what we have...
@MoonBHAA - Everybody knew what the concept of MMA was before it even begin. It was only givin a name since the late 90's. Jiu jitsu is a street fighting system that could be used in sport combat, and Dana is just a poster child for the UFC. Fertittas are the one who came of with Idea of what the sport is today. Pixieboy.
@xchargerOUx , I agree with you for the most part. But Dan Inosanto should not be mentioned with the likes of Bruce Lee and Gene Lebell. Bruce Lee's concept of Jeet Kune Do was essentially MMA - "Use what works, and take it from where you will." or something along those lines. Inosanto essentially butchered Jeet Kune Do, and transformed it into yet another typical McDojo version of a TMA. Bruce Lee would probably dislike what has become of Jeet Kune Do.
The whole JJ establishment are bitches, stop bitching and start competing. They don't "own" JJ. Its just like some dude back in the day figured out plays in football. But now things have moved on, everybody knows those plays now. You can't "own them. Adapt, stop bitching.
@gosciu555 are you talking about gi vs no gi? when you grapple with someone I think the gi is helpful b/c you are often wearing clothes but I get your point.
But both are important. So I'd say starting with the gi and transitioning to no gi is probably the best way to go.
But Draculino and those guys brought jiu jitsu to the united states. Are you judo or japanese? This is the only way you're mkaing sense. Plus, Drac and Carlos are the directors of GBTX...lol
He's taking money out of my pocket? Is that why gi guys get mad at Eddie? I really like Eddie and I don't understand why gi coaches don't like him. He has been EXTREMELY respectful to the gi world but the gi coaches don't like him.
As for the argument of gi vs no gi, Nogueria said it best. The truth is if you want to be great at JJ, you need time to drill and you need mat time. If you want to be the best at no gi... train more no gi... If you want to be the best at gi... never take it off
@jarniej When he said that he takes money away from him, its because Eddie promotes marijuana use!!!!....If you run a business and the parents of your customers think that all BJJ players promote the use marijuana they will most likely avoid your gym and BJJ. NOT GOOD FOR BUSINESS!
@DraculinoTeamTx I agree that his use of marijuana is regrettable, but anyone who steers away from all of jiu-jitsu just because of one instructor is a moron to begin with, would you really want someone like that as a student? But I digress... you are entitled to your opinions, I cannot knock you for that, but I felt the beginning of the video was just a bit immature.
This is a subject that people will have to agree to disagree on traditional BJJ players will always say the Gi is essential its their history and tradition. Only time will tell but its a fact more and more people are starting to change theories about this including high level guys that started with the GI but like I said only time will tell
I honestly love both, don't see what the big rap is all about. If you don't like the gi, then don't train with it. And vice versa, theres no invisible man in the sky commanding people to do this and that because its "right".
my view is that if a person trains X years with a gi he would have (for example) a brownbelt level gi-game but a pruplebelt nogi-game. but if the same person trains the same X no. of years without a gi he would have a brownbelt level nogi-game but a whitebelt gi-game. so if you want to do both, train with a gi. but if you want to only do nogi/mma train without a gi.
i think eddie's argument is that training no gi is more beneficial for MMA since mma is no gi. I think his philosophy is that if you are training bjj for mma you shoudl spend more time thinking of innovative and effective moves for MMA (No GI). i dont think he is saying it is better than gi in general. at least thats what i got out of one of his dvd's.
Would you argue that its silly to train at a higher altitude because thats not the altitude you'll actually fight at? Would you argue that its better to train the exact way your going to fight since thats the way your going to fight?
I look at the gi as if u put weights on to run and when u take the weights of ur 10 times faster, or if u wrestled in velcro then took it off how fast would u be? I do equal amounts of jacketed and no gi wrestling and ive found it to help alot
I have trained bjj for 13 years now and I use to do alot of no-gi, when I started to put the Gi on I was lost! now I just train Gi but find when I shed the gi and train with the pure sub grappling guys I do well, but when those same sub grappling guys put the Gi on I finish them easily.
I dont know what it is with the gi (maybe the complexity of it) but it makes your game better in all areas.
Don't wanna contradict Drac too much here, he's way over my head at this point, but the story goes the other way. It's just two different realms. You neglect one, you can't cope in it. I've seen plenty of Gi only people who can't cope without the sticky hands.
Noone anyone's heard of. Just guys at local schools and people I've rolled with too. I couldn't name anyone famous as I haven't personally rolled with any, but I don't see why the advanced people would be an exception. Just less people capable of giving them trouble regardless of what they're wearing is all.
I think the point is that People I HAVE heard of all swear by the gi. I personaly have felt the advantages.
It makes more sense to me to trust my own experience and those who are top level then to trust some guys at your local gym's that we've never heard of.
I think the top level guys know what they are talking about better than your friends..but thats just my opinion.
@PadLockum Oh I agree completely, but that forgets all the world class catch, freestyle, sombo, and greco guys who don't consider the gi the ultimate training tool. An appeal to authority is a fallacy in the first place, and on top of that you have to consider the fact that plenty of top level guys disagree. You can't just defer responsibility for the quality of your training to someone better than you. You can learn from them, but you still have to understand why they do what they do.
(I am also Padlockum, Padlock is one of my nicknames, Poppa Rotzee being the other)
I read what you said, and I guess erased, but it is still in my comment box. Its not an appeal to authority when I say I experienced it myself.
I find the Gi more difficult to train in. I have to pay attention more and I have to be more technical to maneuver against grips. I also have to be aware of more attacks and sweeps. ...
When I take the gi off..I feel invincible. Your attacks are cut in half and I can see them coming from a mile away. And even if I DO get caught slipping, I can easily slide out of most mistakes.
Training in the Gi is like training at altitude ..its harder so that when you take the gi off....it seems easy.
Well of course, saying you experienced it yourself is no appeal to authority. The appeal to authority is, of course, the reference you made to the top guys. I don't know about anything being erased. It's showing up for me.
As for training in the gi being automatically harder, I still only hear that from gi-primary guys. If you EVER feel invincible, it's not because of jacket-powers, it's because you need to be rolling with someone better.
It is showing up now. Must of been an glitch somewhere.
Now, so let me get this straight. Your telling me the people who DON'T train in the gi primarily, put on the gi and say they have an easier time in it? Lol.. I doubt that. When primarily No-gi guys come to our school and put on the gi..we smash them...period. They admit it. They don't know how to respond to the grips and the control the gi offers. They don't know what chokes to watch out for. What sweeps are coming..
I have NEVER..EVER....had a no gi only guy come in and put on the gi and then come up to us after class and say "Whew, that was easy". What I do have them come up and say is "Man, the gi is tuff".
You see, put a no gi guy in a a gi...its EASY to submit and sweep him. Put a Gi guy with a no gi guy...its hard to submit the Gi guy. Now its true, the gi guy may have trouble submitting the no gi guy....but that is where the importance of training in both comes in.
The feeling of invincibility is an illustration of the facts.
1.Your less vulnerable to attacks because of the limited amount your opponent can offer compared to what your used to your opponent being able to offer.
2. Your opponent has less control over you, or less options for control over you.
3. There is less friction, allowing you to escape easier. This also allows you to make mistakes and slip through.
These facts are irrefutable. Now, you also state "You only here this from "primarily gi guys". lol..well..who else would know? How else can you know the benefits of "Gi training" unless you are in the gi training? In all honesty, we are the only ones with the experience to speak on it. YOU are the ones who are theorizing based on limited experiences in the gi.
We didn't say if you practice in the gi once a year you would become better.
I mean really, if you're rolling with someone who is a match for you in the gi, but is suddenly harmless outside it, then obviously it's something independent of the gi that's making it happen. Otherwise, you'd be as hindered outside of it. Anything that hinders one person will help his opponent. What exactly is it about the gi that you feel makes it more difficult?
this guy is hilarious!
OutcastedOutlaw 1 month ago
I used to be 50/50 on gi/nogi and I gradually began to like training in gi MUCH more because it seems to help my technical details much more while not hurting my nogi.
thebuzzcjc 1 month ago
JOE HOGAN!!!! lolz GREAT Interview, I love Draculino's interviews. 5*****
thebuzzcjc 1 month ago
haha professor drac is his hilarious, every time he calls bravo rubberman i cant help but chuckle...much respect either way sir.
allaboutthefight 1 month ago
@allaboutthefight I almost spit out my drink laughing when he called him Johnny Bravo; :D
thebuzzcjc 1 month ago
Why is Henry Rollins speaking like that?
poolboyinla 2 months ago
Fuck gi. Fuck no-gi. Guys, seriously. Just do your grappling. All the time you spend on the internet arguing about shit that doesn't matter could be spent on the mat having fun.
ThatKidWiththeDice 2 months ago 4
I wouldnt consider eddie bravo as buster douglas and mike tyson as royler though....I mean royler is clearly ducking eddie in a rematch
texas4life88 3 months ago
one of the places i train at has a split class. people who do no gi stay in no gi and train only that. and people in the gi class usually only train gi. but i tell everyone to train both. it also makes me feel really good when guys who have only been training for 3 months in gi go and smash on guys that have been training for over a year.
timjitsu714 4 months ago
why can't we all just get along? I love both gi and no gi jiu jitsu! both a very fun sports :D
sleepykid156 5 months ago
@Mrkmassa gi idiots? You obviously don't know shit about jiu jitsu eddies students train only no gi and wen was the last time u heard of one of them making it to adcc or doing good at any high level no gi comp??
tysonantillon427 6 months ago
@tysonantillon427 Denny Prokopos (Eddie's first BB) will be competing at ADCC in September, FYI.
Shazzamin 5 months ago
@Shazzamin o wow 1 guy made it through look at everyone else there they "all" are also gi players
tysonantillon427 5 months ago
Every technique has a technique to defend it rubber guard to doesn't mean I don't use it on someone who isn't expecting it I think you should gain as much knowlege as possibe never know when u might use certain techniques and "you must train with the gi to have the finest technique"-marcelo garcia no gi champ
tysonantillon427 6 months ago
gi idiots, still think its high guard lol
mrkmassa 6 months ago
@mrkmassa it is a high guard, eddie got the concept from jj machado who is one of those "gi idiots". your telling me rubber guard is not a high guard? go try out a bjj school roll with the guys nogi good luck bud.
carlsongracieteam 4 months ago
@carlsongracieteam lol yeah its just a high guard he got it from some brazillan who threw his legs high when rolling.totally.
massnerder1 3 months ago
@massnerder1 i know that was sarcasm but their is a interview, where eddie himself. says that jj machado gave him the idea with the style of high guard he played because he could only use one hand. look up the interview and don't be a dip shit over the internet faggot.
carlsongracieteam 3 months ago
@massnerder1 oh and jj machado is not some brazilian, he is a jiu jitsu master, who promoted eddie bravo to black belt in the gi. eddie trained under him for nearly a decade. he was promoted to red and black belt by rickson gracie and is a legend of the sport. I know you are uneducated but please learn to respect the people who helped make this sport.
carlsongracieteam 3 months ago
@carlsongracieteam yeah thanks for the history lesson and educating me
massnerder1 3 months ago
@massnerder1 no history lesson just educating the uneducated. clearly yourself.
carlsongracieteam 3 months ago
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mrkmassa 6 months ago
im a huge eddie bravo fan, and i also hate training with a gi. but i agree with draculino gi fighting is more tricky you really need skills . and helps you for street situations aswell cus if you can choke someone with a gi you can also choke someone with their jacket or sweater wich is more common for ppl to wear in street situations
eddiesabillon512 6 months ago
I train jiujitsu for 1 year and I have all the dvd's from eddie and all the dvd from draculino plus the Renzo gracie and kukuk ...people! I use Draculinos passes and counters all the time he is a perfect professor I am not even talking about his skills witch are great... I respect all off them but the techniques that eddie teaches are not for everybody, you really really need flexibility to pull it off and once you get older you can't do it any more....draculinos techniques work for everybody!
boghdan2000 6 months ago
And what happens to the guys who train only gi when the dude takes his shirt off in the street?
tdinocento111788 6 months ago
First off its "rubber guard"not high guard and the only reason your passing the rubber guard so easily is cause their more then likely not playing it right.. "Traditional" jiu jitsu is great but a combination of the both is even deadlier...btw jiujitsu originated in Japan... Are the Japanese bashing bjj?
tdinocento111788 6 months ago
Love the dog fight though!!! I take pieces of all styles. Some rubber guard system, open guard. To hate Eddie bravo.... Can't do it. But the style isn't fully for me. Works for others... Hell yea... More power to them ;)
jiujitsuclub818 6 months ago
I agree. Eddie bravo's system is ehhh. Not for everyone. I have gone with a lot of rubber guard players. High guard... But good posture... I always pass... Using traditional, high level, bjj is better.
jiujitsuclub818 6 months ago
Ppl wil always hate.. Just let them hate..
aper3221bitch 6 months ago
for me the pro of using a gi to practice is that you accustom yourself to defending several more submissions that involve the gi and at the same time all the nogi moves, when you roll without a gi after that you have less going through your head, less moving pieces if you will
sharkfinnigan 6 months ago
jake shields has never put on a gi in his life
aomasakid 7 months ago
say what you want I like Eddie Bravo, but Drac is a demon on the mat, i think Renato is based on Drac. lol keep armbarring them Drac.
fwsec 7 months ago
draculino's fact is not quite correct.the world champs are gi users, hoever, gi is and has been a lot more developed and many if not most people train in it. just a matter of ratio. no gi is less developed with fewer individuals doing it, nevermind competing at a top level. both good, gi and no gi, you will find that going from gi to no is quite difficult, but easyer the other way around
poopalover 8 months ago
Guys, please open your eyes!!! Nobody are saying you don't need to do no gi, of course we do nogi too but, but if you used to do gi, the nogi game will me smooth and probably more tight than the one who only do nogi. Draculino is very right, who has a mouth can say whatever they want.
But just like Draculino said, check the facts, just check the facts, ok??
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capojitsu 8 months ago
@scarso55555 I have and do train with the gi. To be fair Eddie Bravo did start out in the gi but if you watch his twister dvd he talks about not useing the gi even in gi tournaments, rely on under and overhooks and clinching.
GrandMasterBrent 8 months ago
@DraculinoTeamTx
I respectfully disagree. Gi or no gi its still jiu jitsu and training either way will help your bjj game, but its like if I wanted to be good at baseball I practice with a bat and a baseball, not a tennis racket and a volleyball. Being excellent at defending against a lapel choke doesn't help me in a situation where there is no lapel.
GrandMasterBrent 8 months ago
@draculinoTeamT Assuming that its either cold enough for a jacket or everyone is wearing tshirts made from unrippable cotton/steal bend, wearing a gi for no gi or MMA training still doesn't make sense
GrandMasterBrent 8 months ago
@GrandMasterBrent
Go take an old t-shirt, scruntch it in both hands and then try and rip it apart. Its stronger than you think. When you SCRUNTCH the collar up at the neck, the shirt doesn't rip easily and you can apply most chokes. You were talking about self defense. Now, for MMA training, of course you want to do no gi training, but the gi still keeps your defense game sharp. If you can escape a guy who is using handles on you....when you take the handles off, you feel like superman.
DraculinoTeamTx 8 months ago 8
@GrandMasterBrent
when you practice everyday in a situation where a guy can attack you with 100's of attacks and can hold you anywhere and you apply techniques that escape these handles and avoid these attacks...when you take the gi off you feel better because you can slide out of more attacks, you can pass easier, you have less attacks to worry about etc. The point is its beneficial, not that you should rely on it entirely. Our stance has always been to train both.
DraculinoTeamTx 8 months ago 4
@DraculinoTeamTx Agreed on the last two sentences.
BurtonGrappling 8 months ago
@GrandMasterBrent have you ever trained gi? its so much harder. carlson gracie sr didnt let his guys train no gi till they were purple belts, you pick up bad habits from no gi. marcelo garcia didnt train no gi untill 10 days before adcc and he won. eddie bravo learned with a gi on and is just trying to make money
scarso55555 8 months ago
@GrandMasterBrent im afraid your wrong. i use to think this but i do gi now and it improves ur technique so much because its a slower game and u have time to think about it. Marcelo Garcia believes that to and he is the best in the world so im goin 2 listen to wot he is sayin :P
lusby16 8 months ago
@GrandMasterBrent THATS NOT WHAT ITS ABOUT. ITS UNDERSTANDING THE FUNDAMENTAL TECHNIQUE OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING, so you know the true technique you are able to dilute to fit your game (nogi)
. sorry, caps lock was on.
poopalover 6 months ago
@GrandMasterofwhatBrent Gotta Agree with Drac 100%. My teacher in NYC Marcelo Garcia just won ADCC for the 4th time. First guy ever,considered the best nogi grappler by many. He trained Gi in his training camp along with Cobrinha,ryan hall,Gabi and Antonio Peinado everyday preparing for ADCC,Gi and Nogi everyday. The Gi keeps nogi sharp in Marcelo's words ,they help each other.
cartmansr5 2 months ago
@GrandMasterBrent "It is CRUCIAL to train with the GI to have the finest technique." - Marcelo Garcia - One of the world's best NO GI grapplers.
mickeyford 6 days ago
I gotta disagree here, when you grapple with a gi you have more handles to grab on to(lapel,sleeve,etc) in MMA you won't have those to rely on. The self defense aspect of it the gi isn't practical either, someone starts a fight with you on the streets in a tshirt the most of the gi game goes out the window
GrandMasterBrent 8 months ago 2
@GrandMasterBrent
My friend, you are wrong. I have shown my friend how easy most chokes are, even in a t-shirt. Especially when you bundle the t-shirt up in your hand. It becomes strong and doesn't rip. The problem with training chokes with t-shirts is they rip more often yanking and pulling in a full hour class. That doesn't mean chokes wont work ONCE in the street. I put a friend to sleep with a loop choke in a t-shirt who doubted me and wanted to see.
DraculinoTeamTx 8 months ago
@GrandMasterBrent
...in addition, a lot of this world is cold or with cool weather. Even California is cool or cold most nights and Jackets or long sleeve t-shirts are VERY common. Then the gi is then 100% applicable. A guy who trains no gi exclusively having someone yanks and hold his jacket would be like a fish out of water.
DraculinoTeamTx 8 months ago
@GrandMasterBrent Thats not true most of the street fights ive been in Ive been able to detroy people by useing there shirts or tank tops against them.
b7r7u7c7e 5 months ago
Bjj world champion Romulo Barral ... Who are we again? Average Joes ;-)
aksupra 9 months ago
Like he said look at the facts ... Jus look at the best in the world....since Bjj was created .... We can all argue our opinions but the facts are facts, and don't forget Bjj was created for self defense on the street .. N most of the time we have clothes on :-), we can all think and say what we want.. but the fact is none of us here debating are world champions in MMA or BJJ ...oh! N one more thing I'm not a student of professor Draculinos but I was at a seminar by one of his students B
aksupra 9 months ago
Totally closed minded, that's why renato laranja was created to show how stupid Drac is
DaneJiujitsu 9 months ago
@DaneJiujitsu
Stupid drac is? Lol, stupid why? Because he said eddie has a good system? Stupid because he has been practicing jiu-jitsu for over 25 years...which is longer than have the people training have even been alive. He knows more about jiu-jitsu than you do your own life. Draculino was winning tournaments as a brown belt when eddie bravo was putting a stripe on his white belt.....don't call him stupid, especially when it comes to jiu-jitsu.
DraculinoTeamTx 9 months ago
@DaneJiujitsu <------ you need to get shot in the face for saying that about Draculino
vintrexx 9 months ago
I love Eddie, but I totally agree with everything Draculino had to say, all facts and had been proven from time, no BS.
rezwanborja 10 months ago
This guy speaks truth. I like Eddie and Joe but it seems like 10th planet is just better at marketing their style.
nexusutube 10 months ago
Song at beginning of the video? =D
MLee1692 1 year ago
LOL!!!
"Johnny Bravo?!?! The cartoon guy???"
=D <3 Draculino hahaha
MLee1692 1 year ago
- the gi makes you smart, you have to defend so many more submissions, chokes, sweeps,
- the gi slows everything down and makes you think about your next move.
- after taking the gi off and all the chokes, subs, sweeps are eliminated it seems so easy.
- theirs a reason evey no gi world champ at the blackbelt level trains in the gi.
carlsongracieteam 1 year ago
@carlsongracieteam
Except that 10th Planet Jiujitsu, originally, is called BJJ for MMA. And now, many MMA fighters are coming out saying they don't use the GI. Nog, Frank Mir, Jake Shields, G-Sot, guys who KILL guys no longer using the gi. Them saying it makes them too lazy. Why would I want to learn to escape sleeve grips if I'll never have a sleeve for him to grab? Why would I waste my time?
Theres a reason the champs are wrestlers and not Judo guys. The gi doesn't do shit.
Dhuman571 11 months ago
@Dhuman571 what are you talking about? nog still teaches, and trains in the gi all the time, he even holds all gi seminars, jake shields trains in the gi all the time, he is under caesar gracie he makes his guys train in the gi. the gi makes you smart, it slows everything down, If you can escape someone's guard in the gi, then when you take the gi off they have what 90 percent less attacks. trust me every no gi world champion in bjj trains in the gi, every adcc champ trains in the gi.
carlsongracieteam 11 months ago
@carlsongracieteam
That is simply untrue. Jake Shields is INCREDIBLY well known for having never trained in the gi. He got his black belt from Caesar without the gi. Look up any interview from him. I never said Nog didn't train in the gi, he just made powerful statements AGAINST needing the gi to be good without it. Look it up. It's all on youtube.
The fact is, the gi does not make you smart. Grappling makes you smart. Being out on the mat and practicing makes you smart.
Dhuman571 11 months ago
@Dhuman571 so defending, all the grips, all the chokes, all the extra submissions does not make you more aware and smarter? tell this to every adcc (most prestigious no-gi grappling tournament in the world) champion. cause they all train in the gi, rafa mendes, cobrinha, marcelo, roger, jacare, all the worlds best p4p grapplers train in the gi plain and simple, not something you can deny, it is a fact, please get off my balls, you have never trained in the gi, or been on a mat with talent.
carlsongracieteam 11 months ago
@carlsongracieteam
Actually, I have trained in the gi. You don't know who I am, where I train, and ect. Don't get mad at me because of what these powerful voices have said, and you being wrong about guys you THOUGHT backed the gi up.
Yes, training to guard against gi chokes makes you smarter, at guarding gi chokes, not at guarding anything else. If anything, it makes you pick up habits you may not need. Truely you can admit that may be true.
Dhuman571 11 months ago
@Dhuman571 your an idiot, just use facts, look at mma champions, Jacare, Nick diaz, Gsp, Anderson Silva, Shogun, all have their black belts in the gi. ok look at every ADCC CHAMPION! (surely you know what adcc is) all bjj black belts in the gi, look at every bjj nogi worlds at the black belt level. All black belts in the gi. if you have trained in the gi who are you affiliated with? and what belt rank are you?
carlsongracieteam 11 months ago
@Dhuman571 Why waste time in the gi? Because people wear clothing. If you are interesting in purely sport fighting then live it up and do nothing but no gi. It will suck to be you when you don't know how to grip fight when someone grabs your clothing.
Jonobos 11 months ago
@Jonobos
But the argument is that if you want to do MMA and nogi grappling, that you should only train nogi. Eddie Bravo has said if you're training for self-defense, then you should train in the gi and without it. No one is arguing that. The argument is: Do you need to train in the gi to be good at no gi? Which, the answer is, no.
Dhuman571 11 months ago
i think eddie bravo just brings some different tools to the equation, nothing super new im sure his students still work all the bjj basics.
and as for the gi vs no-gi, plenty of gi practitioners have been able to translate their bjj skills to mma and no-gi. To say training with a gi is pointless is pretty ignorant.
imarayda 1 year ago
hahaha i really enjoyed watching this. Draculino is the man and he has the right to speak and doesnt brag about it. PRAISE all grappling. No Gi, Gi...Judo, Wrestling, Sombo..Love them all and im thankful they exist for all humankind to enjoy and live.
fgnscalater 1 year ago
Gi teaches you to grip the collar and sleeve and creates bad habits that you have to then break to transition your JJ to MMA. It doesn't matter if you realize it or not, but in the heat of the moment after you've been grabbing sleeves and collars for years and now you're rocked and confused, you're going to revert back to what you know and find yourself lost.
If your goal is MMA competition, I see no reason to take up the gi unless you really enjoy it.
pearcemark2 1 year ago
Gii vs no Gii is sooooo stupid. How about we all just enjoy jiu-jitsu?
coolioisafoolio 1 year ago
Joe Hoegan; LOL!
KidSgNz 1 year ago 3
NNEEE<NEECCCK LOCCKK
mm4junkie 1 year ago
The only reason the guys with the gi have better records is because eddie bravo is fairly new i think he only has one black belt give it time george represents his jiu jitsu well.
lilsm555 1 year ago
@lilsm555
Eddie bravo didn't invent No Gi, No Gi has been around a loooooooooong time and have had plenty of time to claim dominance. Look at luta Livre.
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago 4
@lilsm555 new??? eddie deffeted royler once... and thats it he got killed in the next match... all bjj no gi champion train in gi and no gi .......
2submit 1 year ago
@2submit Dude i said eddie bravos style of jiu jitsu is new and he only has a few black belts out there. Hes only been teaching it for a short time. I never said he invented no gi jiu jitsu.
lilsm555 1 year ago
@lilsm555 If you mean George Sots, he was a John Will black belt (gi-based) for years before he switched to 10th Planet. Most of Bravo's 'successes' are people who have changed to his system and still heavily rely on their BJJ training. George's passing ability is the strongest feature of his game and has nothing to do with Bravo.
oncebittentwice 10 months ago
@lilsm555 bravo has his system about 10 yrs now,there are black belt bjj world champs who havent even been training that long.Sotiropoulus was already a black in bjj before he met eddie.
billysue2 10 months ago
vida longa ao kimono
patolento 1 year ago
OOoosss Draculino....you are great professor and wish you the best!!
yohnnyg 1 year ago
Draculino is hilarious, and I really want to train with him if I ever visit Texas. His points all ring true: especially his opinions regarding gi vs no gi training.
Talton77 1 year ago
well you cant argue that rubber guard is better guard to play for mma then a regualar guard, u talk less damage!! unless u have grip strength like mintauro then its def a safer guard to play. I mean look at george s. he like never gets hit when someone is in his guard
ujerk91 1 year ago
Draculino, your a smart guy! I totaly agree to all of your arguments.
4indianer 1 year ago
gi, no gi, its all jits to me, love u draculino, love u eddie bravo. open your mind stop the hateing. on eddie b.
tylerdurdin 1 year ago 25
@tylerdurdin i agree with you completely bro... i wish these 2 different aspects of jits would stop resisting each other, and develop 2gether. the world always changes, we need to change as one or we'll just segregate. segregation and prejudice lead to dead ends end negativity, just passing new doors this art can go through ; revolutions happen for a reason and open minds open doors. EVERYTHING can become better, i share the dream that this will happen with ALL forms of jiu jitsu...
codypsprague 8 months ago
@tylerdurdin not that bjj, gjj, eddie bravo's view point and all view points of jiu jitsu in between aren't already beautiful arts in and of themselves; its just that i cant help but wonder what jiu jitsu will be like 2moro, if we all have open minds 2day. --but above all, i have the utmost respect and love for eddie, draculino, and everyone who loves and respects jiu jitsu...
codypsprague 8 months ago
@tylerdurdin preach the good word man
sharkfinnigan 7 months ago
Eddie bravo is the best. Stop hating, Joe rogan is A brown belt under Eddie and Jean Jacques Machado . and Eddie is also a black belt under Jean Jacques Machado. Eddie has never said one rude thing about royler gracie, and considers him a BJJ legend
nickbowwow 1 year ago 2
@nickbowwow hes said rude shit about royler and the gracies, look up his interviews
kenprimo 1 year ago
its real useful learning to depend on clinching onto a person gi then going into an mma fight and finding out that no one there is wearing a gi
trabideau 1 year ago
@trabideau
The opposite can be said...Its good to train having to escape submissions where a guy is gripping your sleeves and has friction and get so good with your technique that not even these grips can hold you..... then go into an mma fight and realize you can slip out of anything and he has nothing to control you with.
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago 11
@DraculinoTeamTx I was just about to post a comment saying that I'm a massive Eddie Bravo fan but I disagree about doing exclusivly no gi because it can make you lazy with transitions and submission defenses. It's a lot easier to slip out of an armbar/triangle/rear naked choke when then only thing holding you there is a sweaty arm as opposed to a vice grip on a handle-like sleeve. Gi teaches you to be a lot more patient and efficient with your Jiu Jitsu. great interview and answers by the way :)
LUKESTFD 1 year ago
@LUKESTFD
Thanks, and we agree that it is smart to train both Gi and No Gi. Its silly to believe either one on its own is better than both. IMO
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago 6
@DraculinoTeamTx You're wrong. No gi is actually more difficult to do because in if you have the gi, you can just grab the sleeve and get a nice grip which you can't do on the streets or in MMA. Also, on the streets and in MMA, you can't choke with the gi.
AZNboi10921 5 months ago
@AZNboi10921
sleepykid156 5 months ago
@AZNboi10921 you can do a gi choke with t shirt collar.
sleepykid156 5 months ago
@sleepykid156 not really. the t shirt can easily be ripped and is flexible so you're just going to end u.getting your shirt stretched.
AZNboi10921 5 months ago
@trabideau no bjj lad goes into a fight without training lots of wrestling,no gi and striking,that doesnt happen anymore.Also,almost anyone i know that does bjj does gi and no gi.Ive never worn a gi for 10 yrs until last year and ive improved in escapes and passing since then.No gi improves sub finishes and top control more
billysue2 10 months ago
1moreroundbrother,at the end of the day rubber guard has been around for over 10 years and it has really done nothing.look at the the champs in ufc brock,shogun,silva,gsp and edger..none of these guys use rubber guard but there somehow champs.pride champs like Coleman, Wanderlei Silva , Fedor ,Shogun , Henderson, Gomi ,
Cro Cop and Misaki do not use it either and they where all champs.maybe rubber guard needs more time to evole. 98%of bjj champs dont use rubber guard.it just a fad.
xabovethisworldx 1 year ago
@xabovethisworldx its not a fad,its been used before eddie even began training but eddie has a whole system based around with.Its very creative and has worked very well for those who focus on it enough and are very flexible .The rubber guard is often seen in mma as a defensive position but subs off it are rare,aoki is the major exception.
billysue2 1 year ago
@billysue2 <-- 10th planet purple belt, the reason you dont see many submissions out of the guard is because there are very few 10th planet brown belts and only 2 10th planet black belts not including eddie. Most people just learn mission control and thats it because they dont care to learn the rest of the system and 9 times out of 10 they`re technique is shit. Perfect example is dan hardy vs. GSP, people dont use the guard because they think it just helps with getting hit.
genjibob 1 year ago
@genjibob theres at least 4 black belts under eddie
trabideau 1 year ago
Is draculino related to the other Vinny Magalhães? Just wondering.
nonstopjc2k8 1 year ago
@nonstopjc2k8
No, just a popular name in Brazil, thats all.
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago
YamaRider93 a lot of guys use rubber guard,but name one guy besides shitty aoki who uses it well and has pulled out subs in mma bigger cards?its a ridding position when you wanna wear out and possibly stop some punches you use it.With gi you can still break people post down you just need to use it right.i love jiu jitsu just think rubber guard is wack but i love no gi been doing it for 4 years as well as gi.when a baddass rubber guard guy comes thru to mma then we will see.
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xabovethisworldx 1 year ago
@xabovethisworldx
Aoki is a great example, but why come up with more when you're probably going to call them shitty ? you already sound biased and closed minded. Dustin Hazelett has used it with success. So has Matt Horwich. George Sotiropoulos is a quickly rising star in the UFC's 155 lb division. He'll go against other jiu-jitsu guys and dominate them on the ground. In his rubber guard he takes no damage and can sweep with the omoplata off of the rubber guard. Gi guys get punched in the face.
1MoreRoundbrother 1 year ago 2
@xabovethisworldx
Search Travis Wright on youtube. His wins show how wrong you are. It's way more than a riding position. Yes you can wear out a guy and stop all power punches. It's not 100 % of course just like any guard. But it is the best way to be offensive and defensive.
1MoreRoundbrother 1 year ago
lol who the hell are them?
duxzoaS 1 year ago
Draculino is such a beast, great guy, great JJ artist.
curvatureflow 1 year ago
i respect eddie because he has a great jiu jitsu and beat a legend like royler when he was just purple..but when he answered this Drac interwiew with his iron sheick interwiew was not so fair, and Drac answered that anyone who had something to say has to say to his face, if tx is too far away he was available for the l.a. bjj world championship, i think Drac can kick eddie's ass..why eddie does not go on the mat with him for a grappling fight and see what happen?
talos1510 1 year ago
@talos1510
Eddie is not a fighter or a competitor or an athlete. He teaches. He learns from his students. He smokes pot. And He writes and produces music.
1MoreRoundbrother 1 year ago
It definately favors gi bjj players now because exclusive nogi bjj players are just now emerging. Facts? what facts do you have that supports that Gi BJJ is more applicable to adcc or mma than NOGI? I train 50/50 gi/nogi, but during periods where multiple gym members have fights, we train exclusively NOGI. Thats because as fight is NOGI. Maybe im missing something.
BFSKraut 1 year ago
lol! this guys awesome.. i love it how he refers to bravo as 'the rubber man' everytime.. draculino seems like a really cool cat!
toasty06 1 year ago
Draculino seems like a really awesome guy,i think rubber guard is very overated and complete garbage for the most part.He speaks the truth gi and no gi are both essential in the bjj and mma today.
xabovethisworldx 1 year ago
@xabovethisworldx , I agree that Draculino is awesome. But The Rubber guard is not overated. It is highly touted because of it's effectiveness in MMA. Wrist control is often hard to maintain in MMA due to the sweat and vaseline. The rubber guard is a great way to break down your opponents posture in MMA. As for the Gi/ No Gi thing, Eddie's views are quite understandable: If your sole purpose for training Jiu-Jitsu is for MMA, then why use the Gi. No-Gi is all that is essential for MMA.
YamaRider93 1 year ago
@YamaRider93
I agree, the rubber guard is AMAZING and must be used more in MMA.
HOWEVER, it is NOT a "great way to break down your opponent's posture."
Rubber guard can not be established without breaking down an opponent.
Breaking him down comes first.
PanKrato 1 year ago
@PanKrato , yea, ur right. I meant it was a great way to KEEP their posture broken down.
YamaRider93 1 year ago
awesome, entertaining video...time to subscribe
nirvana2465 1 year ago
Jiu Jitsu is still dominant....Fedor's loss proves that it is still the most dominant martial art in the world...visssssss
MoonBHAA 1 year ago
@MoonBHAA - And yet, Hughes already dominated Royce & Renzo, Saku destroyed 4 gracie members, Eddie tapped out Royler (ADCC 2003), Brock destroyed Mir (BB BJJ)... Doesn't sound dominate to much to me!? :D
One legend losing to a triangle, doesn't mean jiu jitsu is reigning king over all martial arts!! XD
xchargerOUx 1 year ago
@xchargerOUx if it wasnt for jiu jitsu and the creation of the ufc (gracie family)...all those names you mentioned would be nowhere.....oh snap....mma was created as an organized sport because of jiu jitsu...XD
MoonBHAA 1 year ago
@MoonBHAA - MMA was being established way before the Gracie's started the UFC.. Jim Arvanitis, Bruce Lee, Dan Inosanto, Gene Lebell, Benny Urquidez, Vale Tudo fighers were more complete fighters than the gracie's could dream of. I take Jiu Jitsu, a very beautiful art. But don't act like MMA came into existence because of Jiu Jitsu. The whole purpose was style vs style, and even Rorion admitted that the UFC became entirely different from his view point.
xchargerOUx 1 year ago
@xchargerOUx .mma was created as an organized sport because of jiu jitsu......noone gave a jizz about mma before the gracies created UFC and Dana took interest in jiu jitsu, Dana took in the idea of mma and today we have what we have...
MoonBHAA 1 year ago
@MoonBHAA - Everybody knew what the concept of MMA was before it even begin. It was only givin a name since the late 90's. Jiu jitsu is a street fighting system that could be used in sport combat, and Dana is just a poster child for the UFC. Fertittas are the one who came of with Idea of what the sport is today. Pixieboy.
xchargerOUx 1 year ago
@xchargerOUx , I agree with you for the most part. But Dan Inosanto should not be mentioned with the likes of Bruce Lee and Gene Lebell. Bruce Lee's concept of Jeet Kune Do was essentially MMA - "Use what works, and take it from where you will." or something along those lines. Inosanto essentially butchered Jeet Kune Do, and transformed it into yet another typical McDojo version of a TMA. Bruce Lee would probably dislike what has become of Jeet Kune Do.
YamaRider93 1 year ago
@xchargerOUx It was. Watch Royce messing everybody up at the first few UFC events
Manik2Magik 1 year ago
Great interview! Very smart. Thank you...
Shahkhalfranco 1 year ago
Joe "Hogan" lmao. Freaking funny. Man I want to smoke marijuana with draculino! lol .... "Buster Douglas...please..." shit roflmao
freespadersuggs 1 year ago
The whole JJ establishment are bitches, stop bitching and start competing. They don't "own" JJ. Its just like some dude back in the day figured out plays in football. But now things have moved on, everybody knows those plays now. You can't "own them. Adapt, stop bitching.
gosciu555 1 year ago
@gosciu555
Huh? Can you explain what you are saying and who you are talking to?
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago
@gosciu555 You are not making and sense can you please clarify what you are saying.
702decatur 1 year ago
@gosciu555 are you talking about gi vs no gi? when you grapple with someone I think the gi is helpful b/c you are often wearing clothes but I get your point.
But both are important. So I'd say starting with the gi and transitioning to no gi is probably the best way to go.
But Draculino and those guys brought jiu jitsu to the united states. Are you judo or japanese? This is the only way you're mkaing sense. Plus, Drac and Carlos are the directors of GBTX...lol
freespadersuggs 1 year ago
America is all about the best salesmen. That much is true.
pedrothecruel 1 year ago
Rogan did get his brown belt from Jean Jacques. He's also a brown belt in the 10th Planet system
getthetapjj 1 year ago
The Rubber Man! LOL. Best thing about Eddie Bravo, is he knows Joe Rogan who is cool. That´s brazilian trash talk.
Fferr72 1 year ago
eddie is great... but not legendary.
he beat royler at brown.
ipawnurass 1 year ago
He's taking money out of my pocket? Is that why gi guys get mad at Eddie? I really like Eddie and I don't understand why gi coaches don't like him. He has been EXTREMELY respectful to the gi world but the gi coaches don't like him.
As for the argument of gi vs no gi, Nogueria said it best. The truth is if you want to be great at JJ, you need time to drill and you need mat time. If you want to be the best at no gi... train more no gi... If you want to be the best at gi... never take it off
jarniej 1 year ago
@jarniej When he said that he takes money away from him, its because Eddie promotes marijuana use!!!!....If you run a business and the parents of your customers think that all BJJ players promote the use marijuana they will most likely avoid your gym and BJJ. NOT GOOD FOR BUSINESS!
caveirao101 1 year ago
@DraculinoTeamTx I agree that his use of marijuana is regrettable, but anyone who steers away from all of jiu-jitsu just because of one instructor is a moron to begin with, would you really want someone like that as a student? But I digress... you are entitled to your opinions, I cannot knock you for that, but I felt the beginning of the video was just a bit immature.
dagame81790 1 year ago
@dagame81790 Deserves more respect? I think all things considered Draculino was very respectful of Eddie Bravo.
xchrislee26 1 year ago
This is a subject that people will have to agree to disagree on traditional BJJ players will always say the Gi is essential its their history and tradition. Only time will tell but its a fact more and more people are starting to change theories about this including high level guys that started with the GI but like I said only time will tell
CHARLIGHTER 1 year ago
Batman vs. Rubber Man ufc 116
cobeetrice 1 year ago
Joe Rogan's a Jean Jacques Machado brown, btw :) It's on Jean Jacques Machado's website. (Check the student ranks bit under brown) :)
Keep the vids coming, man! :D
Lahed92801 1 year ago
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jarniej 1 year ago
Last weekend? I'm not sure what your talking about...worlds is in June. Where did you hear this?
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago
@DraculinoTeamTx wow, I totally read it wrong. It was some wrestling competition in Poland... That's how rumors get started:-)
jarniej 1 year ago
HAHA no problem brother. It happens.
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago
I honestly love both, don't see what the big rap is all about. If you don't like the gi, then don't train with it. And vice versa, theres no invisible man in the sky commanding people to do this and that because its "right".
NeoOsiris19 1 year ago
my view is that if a person trains X years with a gi he would have (for example) a brownbelt level gi-game but a pruplebelt nogi-game. but if the same person trains the same X no. of years without a gi he would have a brownbelt level nogi-game but a whitebelt gi-game. so if you want to do both, train with a gi. but if you want to only do nogi/mma train without a gi.
doptionati 1 year ago
"Oh the rubber man! AHHH!"
LOL! Made my day!
Lahed92801 1 year ago
He is right you can go from gi to fight on gi
you cant do the other way around
gi game makes you tighter and have more base
sleung34 1 year ago
i think eddie's argument is that training no gi is more beneficial for MMA since mma is no gi. I think his philosophy is that if you are training bjj for mma you shoudl spend more time thinking of innovative and effective moves for MMA (No GI). i dont think he is saying it is better than gi in general. at least thats what i got out of one of his dvd's.
kevkool230 1 year ago
wow this stuff he says is very true =)
rhdadrian 1 year ago
Would you argue that its silly to train at a higher altitude because thats not the altitude you'll actually fight at? Would you argue that its better to train the exact way your going to fight since thats the way your going to fight?
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago
Training at higher altitude = Harder
Training in the Gi = Harder
Training at normal altitude = Normal
Training in no go = normal
Training at higher altitude makes you better when you fight at normal altitude
Training in the gi makes you better when you fight without it.
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago
I look at the gi as if u put weights on to run and when u take the weights of ur 10 times faster, or if u wrestled in velcro then took it off how fast would u be? I do equal amounts of jacketed and no gi wrestling and ive found it to help alot
pingpong3141 1 year ago
I have trained bjj for 13 years now and I use to do alot of no-gi, when I started to put the Gi on I was lost! now I just train Gi but find when I shed the gi and train with the pure sub grappling guys I do well, but when those same sub grappling guys put the Gi on I finish them easily.
I dont know what it is with the gi (maybe the complexity of it) but it makes your game better in all areas.
truemanc 1 year ago
Don't wanna contradict Drac too much here, he's way over my head at this point, but the story goes the other way. It's just two different realms. You neglect one, you can't cope in it. I've seen plenty of Gi only people who can't cope without the sticky hands.
JinsukeHP 1 year ago
@JinsukeHP
Who are you talking about exactly. And remember the point is not that you should only train gi or only no gi. We think its good to practice both.
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago
Noone anyone's heard of. Just guys at local schools and people I've rolled with too. I couldn't name anyone famous as I haven't personally rolled with any, but I don't see why the advanced people would be an exception. Just less people capable of giving them trouble regardless of what they're wearing is all.
JinsukeHP 1 year ago
@JinsukeHP
I think the point is that People I HAVE heard of all swear by the gi. I personaly have felt the advantages.
It makes more sense to me to trust my own experience and those who are top level then to trust some guys at your local gym's that we've never heard of.
I think the top level guys know what they are talking about better than your friends..but thats just my opinion.
PadLockum 1 year ago
@PadLockum Oh I agree completely, but that forgets all the world class catch, freestyle, sombo, and greco guys who don't consider the gi the ultimate training tool. An appeal to authority is a fallacy in the first place, and on top of that you have to consider the fact that plenty of top level guys disagree. You can't just defer responsibility for the quality of your training to someone better than you. You can learn from them, but you still have to understand why they do what they do.
JinsukeHP 1 year ago
@JinsukeHP
(I am also Padlockum, Padlock is one of my nicknames, Poppa Rotzee being the other)
I read what you said, and I guess erased, but it is still in my comment box. Its not an appeal to authority when I say I experienced it myself.
I find the Gi more difficult to train in. I have to pay attention more and I have to be more technical to maneuver against grips. I also have to be aware of more attacks and sweeps. ...
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago
......
When I take the gi off..I feel invincible. Your attacks are cut in half and I can see them coming from a mile away. And even if I DO get caught slipping, I can easily slide out of most mistakes.
Training in the Gi is like training at altitude ..its harder so that when you take the gi off....it seems easy.
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago
Well of course, saying you experienced it yourself is no appeal to authority. The appeal to authority is, of course, the reference you made to the top guys. I don't know about anything being erased. It's showing up for me.
As for training in the gi being automatically harder, I still only hear that from gi-primary guys. If you EVER feel invincible, it's not because of jacket-powers, it's because you need to be rolling with someone better.
JinsukeHP 1 year ago
@JinsukeHP
It is showing up now. Must of been an glitch somewhere.
Now, so let me get this straight. Your telling me the people who DON'T train in the gi primarily, put on the gi and say they have an easier time in it? Lol.. I doubt that. When primarily No-gi guys come to our school and put on the gi..we smash them...period. They admit it. They don't know how to respond to the grips and the control the gi offers. They don't know what chokes to watch out for. What sweeps are coming..
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago
@DraculinoTeamTx
I have NEVER..EVER....had a no gi only guy come in and put on the gi and then come up to us after class and say "Whew, that was easy". What I do have them come up and say is "Man, the gi is tuff".
You see, put a no gi guy in a a gi...its EASY to submit and sweep him. Put a Gi guy with a no gi guy...its hard to submit the Gi guy. Now its true, the gi guy may have trouble submitting the no gi guy....but that is where the importance of training in both comes in.
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago
@DraculinoTeamTx
The feeling of invincibility is an illustration of the facts.
1.Your less vulnerable to attacks because of the limited amount your opponent can offer compared to what your used to your opponent being able to offer.
2. Your opponent has less control over you, or less options for control over you.
3. There is less friction, allowing you to escape easier. This also allows you to make mistakes and slip through.
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago
@DraculinoTeamTx
These facts are irrefutable. Now, you also state "You only here this from "primarily gi guys". lol..well..who else would know? How else can you know the benefits of "Gi training" unless you are in the gi training? In all honesty, we are the only ones with the experience to speak on it. YOU are the ones who are theorizing based on limited experiences in the gi.
We didn't say if you practice in the gi once a year you would become better.
DraculinoTeamTx 1 year ago
I mean really, if you're rolling with someone who is a match for you in the gi, but is suddenly harmless outside it, then obviously it's something independent of the gi that's making it happen. Otherwise, you'd be as hindered outside of it. Anything that hinders one person will help his opponent. What exactly is it about the gi that you feel makes it more difficult?
JinsukeHP 1 year ago
lol great interview, i've seen some footage of drac and of course he's a great competitor, but he also seems like a cool dude in general
5/5
tubeydatuba 1 year ago