Lol the white guy sitting next to leftkowitz is truly an idiot-in-denial.he refused to admit that egypt is in africa.egypt's not in africa?lol he lost all credibility.u white ppl kill me with your racist bullshit.look at a map dumb ass.
Dr. Clarke is so arrogant. An obnoxious dissembler. At 7:50 the moderator has to rouse him out of an insolent bout of hollow supercilious preening. I would be ashamed to claim this man as adovocate for MY people. He's no better than any other proponent of racial superiority regardless of background. Clarke is clearly playing to the braying jackasses in the crowd who can only discern that he has made a "point", when he signals contempt for his adversaries, so to feed his ego he does this alot.
You're kidding right? I've yet to hear anything of a factual nature in ANY of the wishful ramblings of your Dr. Clark. He should try some of his fairy tales on the people of Egypt. By that I mean REAL Egyptians. They would undoubtedly laugh him right out of the country. No one wants to confront the desperate delusions of a man like Clark. We just smile and nod. Meanwhile mummy DNA reveals the truth. Tsk Tsk.
@godofthisshit Egypt was at best for your purposes MULTICULTURAL. Look also at the ancient CAUCASIAN mummies of China. Now, I suggest you take this information, and stop being arrogant! People all have the SAME worth in the eyes of the creator, thats the important take away here! Arrogance is ugly no matter who wields it.
@godofthisshit Caucasians have occupied MANY lands, and not just recently. Native American tribes have ancient folklore which describes a history of coming to a new land, and killing the original red-haired inhabitants. And no, Caucasian and European are not synonymous, at least not at this point in history. If you have expressed an opinion regarding multiculturalism and Egypt, it doesn't appear in this thread.
Not "acting" like it's not relevant, I'm saying that his methods of dispensing his views disengages his audience from any conception that he is an unbiased arbiter of historical fact. instead he looks like the last kid picked to play baseball, snipeing at the more popular kids whose accomplishments and abilities surpass his own, desperately blaming others for his own deficits and failures. Asians don't blame "whitey" it's time Men like Clark "move on" and "own" responsibility for their own lives
@youngoldbones asians dont blame whitety because they aint have there culture taken from them by whitey africans history didnt beget when they got off slave boats thats the point dr clark and other scholars are trying to make forget how they come off just look at the facts.
Half of European men share King Tut’s DNA: Swiss researchers
Up to 70 per cent of British men and half of all Western European men are related to the Egyptian Pharaoh Tutankhamun, geneticists in Switzerland have found.
@youngoldbones Have some fucking respect, you fucking cunt. John Henry Clark, was a Pan-Africanist. What is wrong with you white people? to the point were eurocentric has become immune to intelligent discussion.
@MultiCumming Interesting that you begin a conversation about respect with the word "fuck". Who needs to grow up? Listen to me now, I have HEARD what your demagogue is saying, and it has very little to do with universal respect for all people. He belittles western society and caucasians in general. Sorry, you can have him AND his views.
It is patently insane to claim that two societies IN Europe, populated BY Europeans, are not European. Welcome to the insane world of Afrocentrism / black racism.
It is a cowardly disgrace that Color politics has managed to infest, mainstream academia. Even when institutions knowing full well what is being taught is garbage, they bury their heads in the sands and allow these shysters, to preach their crap. For fear of being called racist!
Tom Bernal has got more expertise than you at least he's not hiding behind a Youtube account he put his image and reputation on the line to write his book that's honorable to present the truth.
"Did this guy just say that either if Egypt is in Africa..? LOL has he ever taken world Geography.A normal joe would know Egypt is in Africa where did he get his degree from?
LOL Clarke is really flapping here. Totally gone off subject to the question. He never had a degree & bought a Doctorate from a non-accredited University.
@Bulllseye2012 He's old but going to an "elite" school makes it better.Narrow answer,its best to actually go to the country your studying.Sounds like you need to come out the brainwashing he is giving you books to research yourself.Your babbling yourself.People research your own studies.
"John Henrik Clarke, in a chapter entitled "African Warrior Queens" in Black Women in Antiquity, leaning heavily on the J. A. Rogers' "tradition," makes this astonishing statement: "More nonsense has been written about Cleopatra than about any other African queen, mainly because it has been the desire of many writers to paint her white."
"In support of this statement Clarke cites a strange medley of unconvincing, if not unscholarly items: Shakespeare's description of the queen in Antony and Cleopatra as "tawny"; Cleopatra's description of herself as "black" in the Book of Acts; a reference to Cleopatra as "fat and black" in Ripley's Believe It or Not; and a modern painting of the queen by Earl Sweeney."
Snowden was a An African American professor of history, obtained his Doctorate from Harvard ,
Served as cultural attache in Rome for the American Embassy, awarded the National Humanities Medal from President Bush at the White House, was in Time Magazine, and had obituaries written about him in the Washington Post and the New York Times
@Bulllseye2012 SO GOING TO AN ELITE SCHOOL MAKES YOUR ANSWER RIGHT?OKAY SO EXPLAIN PRESIDENT BUSH...NEED I SAY MORE.THEY CALL THEM ELITE SCHOOLS BECAUSE THATS WHO GOES TO THEM THE ELITE THE SAME ONES .WHO ARE CONTINUING LIES.AS WELL AS KILLING POOR WHITES BLACKS,AND HISPANICS.These "Yes" school universiities keep the classes seperated and will continue to do so.Just because Dr. Clarke is self taught doesn't mean a thing.I thank him for spreading the truth.
Lets get one thing clear here, Clark had no Doctorate he bought one from a diploma mill. Unlike Snowdon who earned his from the top university in the World.
The fact that Clark used Book of Acts from Ripley's Believe It or Not, Shakespeare's Antony and Cleopatra & a portrait by Earl Sweeney, to argue that Cleopatra was Black. Is not only unscholarly as Snowdon puts it. It is the mark of a Buffoon.
Now you can continue to believe your Afrocentric Crap that the Egyptians were 1) Black, even though they represented them self’s as different to those around them, that were.
2) That Greeks stole/obtained their knowledge from Egyptians. That however don’t make it so.
Clarke had no Degree, let alone a doctorate while Bernal’s expertise is in the field of oriental studies i.e the far east. Which makes him an amateur in this field, who has been dismantled by those who’s fields he has decided to stick his BIG amateur feet into! :)
@Bulllseye2012 you cant be this stupid. It takes five seconds to look up someones credentials via google. Clark studied history at Columbia University in NYC and taught at Cornell and Hunter. So what are you babbling about?
Extracts from the Obituaries of both Frank M. Snowden & John Henrik Clarke both published in the New York Times
First Clarke:
"Mr. Clarke was a professor emeritus at Hunter College. If it is unusual to become a full college professor without benefit of a high school diploma, let alone a Ph.D."
Now Snowden
"He earned a bachelor’s degree in classics from Harvard in 1932, followed by master’s and doctoral degrees in the field, also from Harvard, in 1933 and 1944."
Where and what other field would have someone like Clarke be given any credibility let alone a voice???
In Physics? Chemistry perhaps? How about Medicine !!!!
Could you imagine a professor of Surgery teaching in a University without the benefit of a Phd.
Only in this field of color politics is this allowed to happen. Because they defecate then self’s, at the thought of protesters, accusations of racism and protracted law suites.
@Bulllseye2012 Ok, what is the name of the article that says he doesn't have a highschool diplomat (or presumably a G.E.D.). You saying this doesn't mean much, if you can give me the way to find the article I would appreciate it.
"In total disregard of the ancient evidence John Henrik Clarke, in a chapter entitled "African Warrior Queens" in Black Women in Antiquity, leaning heavily on the J. A. Rogers' "tradition," makes this astonishing statement:"
""More nonsense has been written about Cleopatra than about any other African queen, mainly because it has been the desire of many writers to paint her white. She was not a white woman, she was not a Greek…Until the emergence of the doctrine of white superiority Cleopatra was generally pictured as a distinct African woman, dark in color.""
@BigPreme "Can you please provide the URL from the NYT's that says he didn't have a GED please"
Dude...it's called Google. I think you know how to use it. Copy and paste this in and press enter: "John Henrik Clarke, Black Studies Advocate, Dies at 83."
"In support of this statement Clarke cites a strange medley of unconvincing, if not unscholarly items: Shakespeare's description of the queen in Antony and Cleopatra as "tawny"; Cleopatra's description of herself as "black" in the Book of Acts; a reference to Cleopatra as "fat and black" in Ripley's Believe It or Not; and a modern painting of the queen by Earl Sweeney."
Rome and Greece are part of Europe Dr. Clarke. Jeez. People were in Europe and Europe existed regardless of whether they had tech or not. Listen to the audience cling desperately to the idea of Egypt being part of Africa which in reality is a technicality since the idea that crossing into Gaza from Egypt is a totally different cultural world in childishly absurd. It is sub-Saharan Africa that is a totally different cultural world.
OK, lets forget about Greeks and Romans and Egypt. There was a civilization called "Trypilian" in the area where Bolgaria, Western Hungary and central and Western Ukraine. That Trypilian culture was advanced and on the same level as Mesopotamian Civilization and existed there as far as 5000 BC. So what connection does Africa has to that culture? Trypilians were of European stock. What can dr. Clark say about that?
OK, lets forget about Greeks and Romans and Egypt. There was a civilization called "Trypilian" in the area where Bolgaria, Western Hungary and central and Western Ukraine. That Trypilian culture was advanced and on the same level as Mesopotamian Civilization and existed there as far as 5000 BC. So what connection does Africa has to that culture? Trypilians were of European stock. What can dr. Clark say about that?
You Afro-centrics are brainwashed FOOLS. The vast majority of the Greeks were white, and the vast majority of Egyptians were BROWN, and NOT black, until the Nubian invasion, which occured LATE in B.C. history. Tut's recent DNA tests are laughing at you, along with the NUMEROUS pre human fossils that are being found all around the world, blowing your "Out of Africa" LUNACY away. You Afro-centrics are LIARS and thieves !
@sheepboy I don't. Down deep I know your doing it. Thank you. Maybe you don't even know your doing it. It must be a sub-conscious thing. Hell I understand, even you don't believe what you have said. Since you offered NO PROOF>
@sheeptboy A cubicle is just a padded cell without a door. You have a computer, a vibrator, & pizza delivery. Why should you leave the house? Save your breath…You’ll need it to blow up your date.
@Boukephalos1 You reused that comment from the previous video. Looks like you're running out of sentences. Stop giving us stories of what you do at home.
@sheepboy you offered NO PROOF. YOUR FINISHED, DEFEATED, HUMILIATED. Why should I respond to loser? I'd like to see things from your point of view but I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass
@Boukephalos1 You're the one who has been defeated. You wont stop replying. Your in the stage of denial....You cant make a flowing idea...Your arguments don't support each other....Its sad that you've resorted to personal insults.....sad.
@nomadicbede look your precious time is washing here with an old coot that has bested you at every turn. but your are giving this old coot a laugh. it's not often an old coot gets to hear precious words of wisdom from a gay narcissist black. LOL! You seem to be out of your element Thank God there is little chance of you breeding. CLICK YOUR HEELS AND SAY "I NEED A LIFE, I NEED A LIFE"
@nomadicbede oh I'm a bigot. i refuse to be indoctrinated by idiots. Thank you for taking your precious(emphasis on precious, a word you surely use), time to write to me. And no you didn't ask me to get an interrupter of Russian, i suggested it . Who cares now. I would rather hear more of your grandiose narcissist’s image, and the bigger the lies required to protect it. You're better at going for funny keep it up. Even though your time is precious.
@nomadicbede Boring being the key word and the insight you gave, gay narcissist of the highest order. As for stereotype you are a walking talking one of many, I suspect this is how you introduce yourself." Allow me to introduce ourselves." Remember normal white folks, to you are only the ones that agree with you. Another insight your gift to gab gave away. No you're a open book of simpleton knowledge but you are becoming funny, however I really don't think you were going for that look.
@nomadicbede My God you removed your narcissistic response. good for you, it was embarrassing. you learned something from me. amazingly funny,however, thanks for the insight. you once said in the multitude of trash you have written me I was trying to fish for information about you. i don't have to you give it freely and willing with such joy and humility it's refreshing. P.S. I have kept your words for posterity. I will use them in the background for inspiration. Hilarious!
@nomadicbede I think that's above your pay grade. Prove it. My cousin will say whether or not you know what you are saying is articulate. But in the end that has nothing to do with Greek or Egyptian history which you know nothing about and I do.Sarcasm is just one more service we offer. He doesn’t know the meaning of the word “fear” -but then again he doesn’t know the meaning of most words. If what you don`t know can`t hurt you, UR invulnerable.
@nomadicbede I wasn't speaking only of the romanoffs you moron, it's a fact from the beginning of russian aristocracy. yeah sure you speak russian. you a blowhard afro-centric idiot who thinks he is smart. Now that's the joke we can all laugh at. You haven''t competed well so far, please continue, speak louder, fill the room with your intelligence. Hilarious!
@nomadicbede Greeks have much with Russia, look to their alphabet, language and religion. But you speak fluent Russian and you don't know that, odd? You speak fluent racism and bullshiite, that's it.
@nomadicbede You're an idiot the Romanoffs were of Viking heritage. The name serfs comes from Viking rulers of Russia. So please Shut up, you historic imbecile.
@nomadafro-wander looking for the way to combat the truths I have given, and failing. I just pushed the wrong button.Actually the Viking are the Aristocrats of the Modern European Families. You heard of the Normans William the Conqueror, the kings of Russia, Germany Denmark, Norway, Sweden, England, France, all Viking descent. they were barbarians that conquered and started civilizations that became Europe. Whereas Africa had some but never continued or advanced.Anywhere south of Egypt. poor try
@nomadicbede I know what they are but the are 1400ADE so-called empires they were not empires in any stretch of the imagination. There were no discoverys they only copied but they didn't flourish or last. The remnants of these sold your ancestors into slavery. not very long ago.
@nomadicbede Without being rude , no one has ever heard of them. They present no significant value to the world. Their existence seems only to be in you mind. They certainly didn't contribute to the advancement of civilization of Africa or the World..Egypt is not yours to have. If it were black Egypt why did the Nubians retreat in 650BC if as you say they were the same culture and color? Typical afro-bullshiite now you inhabited the Americas. Reading to many Afro-centric pamphlets for Dummies.
@nomadicbede 1st of all ,like you said Who in heavens name are YOU? Who cares? As for the other 95% of africa they have NOTHING of cultural significance. That's why you afro-centrics gravitate and harp on Egypt. Without it yo have nothing. Funny how it only influenced the two near areas Nubia/Ethiopia. And I never said Egypt wasn't apart of Africa just not black Africa. So do men of scholarship.
Let me let U in on a little secret about this site & .about other 2 Black Athena sites It was set up to put forth the absurd theory Greeks were Black,by fyromians. They call themselves Macedonians but aren't only Greeks are Macedonians. So to degrade Greeks they had a falsified DNA & financed the author of this book. it wasn't done to exalt blacks but degrade Greeks by saying they were black and african. Now blacks ran with absurd theory not realizing it degrades them.
The problem is that kids today aren't taught WORLD HISTORY - the story of the HUMAN RACE, from its begginings to modern day.
Kids are taught snatches of history: the civil war etc etc.
So lots of kids grow up thinking that civilization started in Europe, when of course Africans and Asians had civilization first.
So suddenly when these young black kids find this stuff out they can be manipulated by oppurtunists like Dr Clarke, who uses it to push lots of other shit in their ears.
The problem is that kids today aren't taught WORLD HISTORY - the story of the HUMAN RACE, from its begginings to modern day.
Kids are taught snatches of history: the civil war etc etc.
So lots of kids grow up thinking that civilization started in Europe, when of course Africans and Asians had civilization first.
So suddenly when these young black kids find this stuff out they can be manipulated by oppurtunists like Dr Clarke, who uses it to push lots of other shit in their ears.
he Nile receives its name from the Greek Neilos, which means a valley or river valley. The river flowed northward and flooded the lands in Egypt, leaving behind black sediment. As a result the ancient Egyptians called the river Ar or Aur (black). The Greeks and Egyptians also gave the land its oldest name Kem or Kemi, which also translates into black.
@Boukephalos1 Hawass doesnt give evidence, he give his opinion based on what he follows as history. He never seems to debate anyone on the subject. He never even goes into detail of how he knows. If you have video, writings or whatever else from Hawass where he has concrete evidence, please lead me to it because i cant find it.
afrocentrics might be nuts at times, but Egypt should be accepted as part of Africa which Rogers makes a huge mistake. the Near East was influenced by Egypt as well and the Greeks glorify Egypt way more than the Near Eastern cultures. in fact, pottery found in Mesopotamia iis influence by pottery of Sudan and most historians asy Mesopotamia predated Egypt, despite the existence of conter-factual evidence
Look the whole debate was for clarke and afro-centrics, bernal was the red-herring catalyst they use modern references about slavery to prove whites distorted history. Scholars use ancient sources, everyone used slaves back then, they enslaved their own people, they're projecting their racist rancor towards anyone objecting with them and overlooking the truth. By the way there was no racial reasoning to distort history back then,so A-centrics words are hypocritical screed and invalid.
why are they debating about staff that doesnt make sense? what brain dead persond doesnt know that Egypt is in Africa? what idiot doesnt know that the Persians invaded Kemet, then the Greeks then later the muslims?
white people are always trying so hard to convince the world (the darker world that is) that they are intelligent but this is the BEST they can come up with? Egypt not in Africa?
where is Egypt then? in Europe? I guess Zimbabwe isnt in Africa as well :D. stupid albinos!
@TheKingShakaZulu It's a debate. Don't be a fool. Every third grader knows that Egypt is in Africa. They werent denying that. What they're saying is that Egypt is not culturally a part of africa. That the societies and climate and way of life are very different between Egypt and the rest of africa. The two are separated by the sahara desert. it isnt easy to travel from central africa to egypt.
lool! clearly you dont have a fucken clue what you talking about! *sigh* a typical white person!
Mali, Niger, Sudan, Mauritania not part of the SAHARA? lool!
the Nubians, the Dogon, the Zulu, the Maasai e.t.c do not have a culture similar to that of ancient Egyptians? lool!
EPIC FAIL!
i am African, 100%. now white boy, LET ME TELL YOU WHO I AM not YOU TELLING ME WHO I AM. it doesnt work like that. and thats the only way you get to learn and stop embarrassing yourself!
@TheKingShakaZulu You are clearly not very intelligent. Where did I say that Sudan and niger werent part of the sahara? i didnt. I said, egypt is separated from the rest of africa by the sahara desert, that is a fact.
clark is such an arrogant blatant racist asshole - how can he get away with saying this stuff. He brought his blind followers to cheer him on as he preached his false prophecy
Dr.Clarke is arrogant and racist because he's stating facts, documentation and sources? Its called a SCHOLARLY ASS Whipping. Egypt was in its 23rd Dynasty (10,000 yrs) before the Greeks came on the scene. He's saying state info to the contrary, its not his fault that they can't do it. Thats because such documentation DOES NOT EXIST. The asshole questioning him says "even if i concede that Egypt is part of Africa" This FOOL doesn't even know that Egypt is in Africa. Dr. Clarke handled him right.
You afrocentrics really require these myths, your lack of self worth so revealed by your race conscious effort to usurp a nationality as if it were yours, when you have no relationship at all with them. The problem you have is we would have to deny what has been written, what we see, what we know, we would have to wipe are minds clear to believe your myths, if this were 2000BC it may have worked but alas, Ur 3000 yrs to late to get away with UR myths. Thank God for that.
Afrocentrism is largely what in old Marxist days used to called false consciousness: a systematically mistaken view of reality which can be explained from the historical trajectory traversed, in recent centuries, by the collectivity (mainly African Americans, but also an increasing number of Africans) holding these views. The true value of Afrocentrism is zero, in other words Afrocentrism is entirely mythical
Simply this book was written, financed by skopjia, Fyrom, they are upset with Greece for vetoing their name change to Macedonia.They aren't Macedonia. Written to Diminish Greeks Historically by inferring blacks are inferior, and if Greeks are black, they must be inferior also. I am sure Clarke and afoul-centrists are to inconceivably dumb to realize it.. Afoul-centrists can't grasp the simple analogy that skojians are trying to present. Hilarious! Greeks did, & blacks didn't, UR not Greek.
"In 20 years naybe he will be wise enough to ask me a question that I'll care to answer".....That does not explain why in the temple of Suis Alexander was announced as the "son of the God". Dr.Clarke's arguments are based on the impression of the emotionally biased audience.
About Alexander the great:There is no evidence that such dialog between the priest and Alexander ever took place-let alone that such behavior (from the priest's part) doesn't make any sense since it was the priests of this very temple that announced Alexander son of the God.
About the debate:The arguments Dr.Clarke is using are not of academic nor scientific nature.He aims to ignite the audience's enthusiasm by saying catchy lines (as above) while he tries to turn an (should be)academic debate
"It will be maintained in this book that the oldest mythology religion symbols language had their birthplace in Africa, that the primitive race of Kam came thence, and the civilization attained in Egypt emanated from that country and spread over the world. The most reasonable view on the evolutionary theory, is that THE BLACK RACE IS THE MOST ANCIENT AND THAT AFRICA IS THE PREMORDIAL HOME"
your assertions with regards to Dr Clarke's demeanor are your opinions and not of an academic nature....they're simply just that...unimportant opinion and conjecture with what you feel is taking place....again your own unimportant personal feelings which have no regard to the exchange taking place (smile)
I respect your evaluation of my opinion but I believe it is biased and not objective as you do not justify your points of view. The importance of anybody's opinion (including mine and yours) in this channel is to be judged from its content. I made my assertions regarding Dr.Clarke's behavior based on his words and not on my personal feelings (as you did regarding my assertions). And how "academic" do yo feel Dr.Clarke's phrase "I debate with my equals, the others I teach" is?I call it arrogance.
You continually reference whay you believe and don't believe....what you believe with regards to ANYTHING is inconsequential as realates to this platform. Assertions are made....they should successfully corroborated, conceded or refuted....surgically, or butressed in an immutable way.
"There was really NO EUROPE in ancient times......and Europe as we know it was divided by the Rhine-Danube frontier, south and west of which lay the civilized provinces of the empire, and north and east the ''BARBARIANS' of whom the civilized world KNEW ALMOST NOTHING"
A HISTORY OF THE MODERN WORLD
R.R. Palmer (Prof. Yale University)
and Joel Colton (Prof. of History at Duke University)
"After the Greeks (and thus the Romans) were CIVILIZED BY THE AFRICANS IN EGYPT most of what we now know as 'Europe' was still barbaric, and unheard of."
"....authorities give the name 'Cecrops' to the Pharoah who is supposed to have been the first to lead a colony from Egypt to Greece..."
"In Jeromes reading of the Armenian Chronicle, it is said of this Pharoah Thothmes IV., that after he had reigned five years in Egypt, he was driven from the throne by his brother 'Egyptus' and fled to Greece, where he founded the city of Argos, and reigned over the Argives under the name of Danaus.
"......Back in the centuries......when history gives only vague hintings are traces of a WIDESPREAD......CIVILIZATION......RULING THE WORLD from it's seats of power in the Valley of the Ganges, the Eurphrates and the Nile and it was of BLACK RACES. The first Babylon seems to have been a Negroid race. The earliest Egyptian civilization seems to have been NEGROID. It was in the days before the semite was known in either land....."
"Ever since the attention of the civilized world was redirected to Egypt at the beginnings of the 19th century, the SCIENTIFIC INVESTIGATION of its innumerable monuments has pointed with ever-growing CERTAINTY to the valley of the Nile AS THE CRADLE OF HISTORY AND HUMAN CULTURE"
KARL BAEDEKER, EGYPT AND THE SUDAN: Handbook for Travellers (1914)
Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin
"Scientists said yesterday that they have discovered a tiny GENETIC MUTATION that largely explains the FIRST appearance of white skin in humans tens of thousands of years ago, a finding that helps solve one of biology's most enduring mysteries and illuminates one of humanity's GREATEST SOURCES OF STRIFE."
In 654 BCE, Psammetichus drove he Assyrians with the help of Greek mercenaries
The illustrious names of Psammetichus, Necho, and Amasis, of the 26th dynasty in Sais, are known to every reader of Herodotus. on one hand, these kings rewarded the Greeks, by allowing them to learn in Egypt, which was the direct cause of the sudden appearance of "Greek Minds".
kahkanyah...I dont know which debate you were watching...but Dr. Clarke clearly put those two arrogant idiots in their places with little to no effort..the audience wernt dummies either. NOT EVERYBODY can be led like a herd of sheep by a bunch of "intellectual" fools with a superiority complex.
The problem with whites is that they don't do their homework.....they think 'being' white automatically makes them right and gives them the last word in any debate.
Choke on this crackuhh!!!:
"Cecrops is said to have been a native of Sais, in Egypt, who led a colony to Greece"
St. Augustine
De Civitate Dei, lib. xviii. (Parian Chronicle at Oxford)
"....authorities give the name 'Cecrops' to the Pharoah who is supposed to have been the first to lead a colony from Egypt to Greece..."
"In Jeromes reading of the Armenian Chronicle, it is said of this Pharoah Thothmes IV., that after he had reigned five years in Egypt, he was driven from the throne by his brother 'Egyptus' and fled to Greece, where he founded the city of Argos, and reigned over the Argives under the name of Danaus.
Lol the white guy sitting next to leftkowitz is truly an idiot-in-denial.he refused to admit that egypt is in africa.egypt's not in africa?lol he lost all credibility.u white ppl kill me with your racist bullshit.look at a map dumb ass.
TheSupreme203 1 week ago
Dr. Clarke is so arrogant. An obnoxious dissembler. At 7:50 the moderator has to rouse him out of an insolent bout of hollow supercilious preening. I would be ashamed to claim this man as adovocate for MY people. He's no better than any other proponent of racial superiority regardless of background. Clarke is clearly playing to the braying jackasses in the crowd who can only discern that he has made a "point", when he signals contempt for his adversaries, so to feed his ego he does this alot.
youngoldbones 1 month ago
You're kidding right? I've yet to hear anything of a factual nature in ANY of the wishful ramblings of your Dr. Clark. He should try some of his fairy tales on the people of Egypt. By that I mean REAL Egyptians. They would undoubtedly laugh him right out of the country. No one wants to confront the desperate delusions of a man like Clark. We just smile and nod. Meanwhile mummy DNA reveals the truth. Tsk Tsk.
youngoldbones 1 month ago
@youngoldbones
what truth?
godofthisshit 1 month ago
@godofthisshit The truth about racial Egyptian ancestry. "Kemet" refers to the dark fertile SOIL, NOT the color of the skin of its ruling class.
youngoldbones 1 month ago
@godofthisshit watch?v=3gmJB1DHhAw
youngoldbones 1 month ago
@youngoldbones
are all of them blonde and redheads? What about Cleopatra sister?
godofthisshit 1 month ago
@godofthisshit Egypt was at best for your purposes MULTICULTURAL. Look also at the ancient CAUCASIAN mummies of China. Now, I suggest you take this information, and stop being arrogant! People all have the SAME worth in the eyes of the creator, thats the important take away here! Arrogance is ugly no matter who wields it.
youngoldbones 1 month ago
@youngoldbones
How the hell am I arrogant? Was I not the one who said Egypt was mixed? Plus I don't believe in any creator. Caucasian does not equal European.
godofthisshit 1 month ago
@godofthisshit Caucasians have occupied MANY lands, and not just recently. Native American tribes have ancient folklore which describes a history of coming to a new land, and killing the original red-haired inhabitants. And no, Caucasian and European are not synonymous, at least not at this point in history. If you have expressed an opinion regarding multiculturalism and Egypt, it doesn't appear in this thread.
youngoldbones 1 month ago
@godofthisshit As to your atheism, I should have guessed from your screen name.
youngoldbones 1 month ago
@youngoldbones
Actually this name was made somewhat before.
godofthisshit 1 month ago
@godofthisshit If you have something to say then don't be vague.
youngoldbones 4 weeks ago
Not "acting" like it's not relevant, I'm saying that his methods of dispensing his views disengages his audience from any conception that he is an unbiased arbiter of historical fact. instead he looks like the last kid picked to play baseball, snipeing at the more popular kids whose accomplishments and abilities surpass his own, desperately blaming others for his own deficits and failures. Asians don't blame "whitey" it's time Men like Clark "move on" and "own" responsibility for their own lives
youngoldbones 1 month ago
@youngoldbones asians dont blame whitety because they aint have there culture taken from them by whitey africans history didnt beget when they got off slave boats thats the point dr clark and other scholars are trying to make forget how they come off just look at the facts.
MultiCumming 1 month ago
@MultiCumming They ain't have . . . . hahahaaa
youngoldbones 1 month ago
@MultiCumming furthermore, 'they aint have THERE" HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA
youngoldbones 1 month ago
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Biology
Half of European men share King Tut’s DNA: Swiss researchers
Up to 70 per cent of British men and half of all Western European men are related to the Egyptian Pharaoh Tutankhamun, geneticists in Switzerland have found.
Not Jews, and not blacks.
JeffnDenmark 2 months ago
@ajahamza "Dr." Clark is clueless. That goes for you as well. But thanks for the amusing rebuttal.
youngoldbones 3 months ago
Ever see Cold Mountain? Dr. Clark is a "Floggin Rooster" Where is Rene Zellweger when we need her?
youngoldbones 3 months ago
Dr.Clarke says nonsense. He is extremely biased. He is a fanatic Afrocentrist liar.
Seventh7Art 3 months ago
@Seventh7Art You're exactly right...
longof99 3 months ago
@Seventh7Art "Dr." Clark. He is the epitome of all that is sad and pathetic about Afrocentric "Scholars" what a buffoon.
youngoldbones 3 months ago
@youngoldbones Have some fucking respect, you fucking cunt. John Henry Clark, was a Pan-Africanist. What is wrong with you white people? to the point were eurocentric has become immune to intelligent discussion.
ajahamza 3 months ago
@youngoldbones you should bow down to the grandmaster hes smarter then your whole family will ever be
MultiCumming 1 month ago
@MultiCumming I bow to no man. Let alone a deluded old coot.
youngoldbones 1 month ago
@youngoldbones fuck the name calling just show respect to a man who only wanted good for everybody if you caint respect that you need to grow up
MultiCumming 1 month ago
@MultiCumming Interesting that you begin a conversation about respect with the word "fuck". Who needs to grow up? Listen to me now, I have HEARD what your demagogue is saying, and it has very little to do with universal respect for all people. He belittles western society and caucasians in general. Sorry, you can have him AND his views.
youngoldbones 1 month ago
@youngoldbones ok fine thats your opinion but dont act like what he is saying isnt relevant to todays society lets be reasonable.
MultiCumming 1 month ago
SSSHHHH...call your kids and tell them to watch / listen and learn.
: )
knowledge is power !
:o
afterray 4 months ago
It is patently insane to claim that two societies IN Europe, populated BY Europeans, are not European. Welcome to the insane world of Afrocentrism / black racism.
MrMcGuire1000 5 months ago
terrible moderator . . . smh .
Khalfani07 5 months ago
Clark, The babbling baboon is a "specialist in chronology because he knows 1 comes first and 2 comes second.."
ZeusTelemaxos 7 months ago
"""Maybe in 20 years he'll be wise enough to ask me a question that I care to answer""""
Brilloseven70 8 months ago
It is a cowardly disgrace that Color politics has managed to infest, mainstream academia. Even when institutions knowing full well what is being taught is garbage, they bury their heads in the sands and allow these shysters, to preach their crap. For fear of being called racist!
Bulllseye2012 9 months ago
what is up with this clip?
shifragri 9 months ago
Tom Bernal has got more expertise than you at least he's not hiding behind a Youtube account he put his image and reputation on the line to write his book that's honorable to present the truth.
ArcheoxXx 10 months ago
Egypt is a part of Africa!!!!!
conneaness 11 months ago
@conneaness Not the Middle East. The Arab world needs to stop stealing geography from Africa and its natural people.
IEXECUTIVE 5 months ago
"Did this guy just say that either if Egypt is in Africa..? LOL has he ever taken world Geography.A normal joe would know Egypt is in Africa where did he get his degree from?
davidcici11 1 year ago
you look like a fool
deanlelie3000 1 year ago
LOL Clarke is really flapping here. Totally gone off subject to the question. He never had a degree & bought a Doctorate from a non-accredited University.
Bulllseye2012 1 year ago
@Bulllseye2012 He's old but going to an "elite" school makes it better.Narrow answer,its best to actually go to the country your studying.Sounds like you need to come out the brainwashing he is giving you books to research yourself.Your babbling yourself.People research your own studies.
MedinazAiR 11 months ago
@MedinazAiR
"John Henrik Clarke, in a chapter entitled "African Warrior Queens" in Black Women in Antiquity, leaning heavily on the J. A. Rogers' "tradition," makes this astonishing statement: "More nonsense has been written about Cleopatra than about any other African queen, mainly because it has been the desire of many writers to paint her white."
Bulllseye2012 11 months ago
@MedinazAiR
"In support of this statement Clarke cites a strange medley of unconvincing, if not unscholarly items: Shakespeare's description of the queen in Antony and Cleopatra as "tawny"; Cleopatra's description of herself as "black" in the Book of Acts; a reference to Cleopatra as "fat and black" in Ripley's Believe It or Not; and a modern painting of the queen by Earl Sweeney."
Bulllseye2012 11 months ago
@MedinazAiR
Source
Frank M. Snowden,
Professor Emeritus, Department of Classics
Howard University
Bulllseye2012 11 months ago
@MedinazAiR
going to an "elite" school makes it better.
Snowden was a An African American professor of history, obtained his Doctorate from Harvard ,
Served as cultural attache in Rome for the American Embassy, awarded the National Humanities Medal from President Bush at the White House, was in Time Magazine, and had obituaries written about him in the Washington Post and the New York Times
So in answer to your question YES
Bulllseye2012 11 months ago
@Bulllseye2012 SO GOING TO AN ELITE SCHOOL MAKES YOUR ANSWER RIGHT?OKAY SO EXPLAIN PRESIDENT BUSH...NEED I SAY MORE.THEY CALL THEM ELITE SCHOOLS BECAUSE THATS WHO GOES TO THEM THE ELITE THE SAME ONES .WHO ARE CONTINUING LIES.AS WELL AS KILLING POOR WHITES BLACKS,AND HISPANICS.These "Yes" school universiities keep the classes seperated and will continue to do so.Just because Dr. Clarke is self taught doesn't mean a thing.I thank him for spreading the truth.
MedinazAiR 11 months ago
@MedinazAiR
Lets get one thing clear here, Clark had no Doctorate he bought one from a diploma mill. Unlike Snowdon who earned his from the top university in the World.
The fact that Clark used Book of Acts from Ripley's Believe It or Not, Shakespeare's Antony and Cleopatra & a portrait by Earl Sweeney, to argue that Cleopatra was Black. Is not only unscholarly as Snowdon puts it. It is the mark of a Buffoon.
Bulllseye2012 11 months ago
@MedinazAiR
The National Humanities Medal is independent of the president
Just as the Medal of Honor is.
Bulllseye2012 11 months ago
@MedinazAiR
Now you can continue to believe your Afrocentric Crap that the Egyptians were 1) Black, even though they represented them self’s as different to those around them, that were.
2) That Greeks stole/obtained their knowledge from Egyptians. That however don’t make it so.
Bulllseye2012 11 months ago
@MedinazAiR
Clarke had no Degree, let alone a doctorate while Bernal’s expertise is in the field of oriental studies i.e the far east. Which makes him an amateur in this field, who has been dismantled by those who’s fields he has decided to stick his BIG amateur feet into! :)
Bulllseye2012 11 months ago
@Bulllseye2012 you cant be this stupid. It takes five seconds to look up someones credentials via google. Clark studied history at Columbia University in NYC and taught at Cornell and Hunter. So what are you babbling about?
BigPreme 9 months ago
@BigPreme
“It takes five seconds to look up someones credentials via google.”
And you didn’t, Clarke never obtained a degree, and bought a Doctorate!
Bulllseye2012 9 months ago
@Bulllseye2012 yet he worked at Cornell, one of the most distinguished universities in the States, riiiight.
BigPreme 9 months ago
@BigPreme
"yet he worked at Cornell"
Does a Janitor count? :)
Bulllseye2012 9 months ago
@Bulllseye2012 You had me fooled for a second, I thought I was discussing with a intelligent person.
BigPreme 9 months ago
@BigPreme
Extracts from the Obituaries of both Frank M. Snowden & John Henrik Clarke both published in the New York Times
First Clarke:
"Mr. Clarke was a professor emeritus at Hunter College. If it is unusual to become a full college professor without benefit of a high school diploma, let alone a Ph.D."
Now Snowden
"He earned a bachelor’s degree in classics from Harvard in 1932, followed by master’s and doctoral degrees in the field, also from Harvard, in 1933 and 1944."
Bulllseye2012 9 months ago
@Bulllseye2012 what is the name of the article so i can google it.
BigPreme 9 months ago
@BigPreme
Where and what other field would have someone like Clarke be given any credibility let alone a voice???
In Physics? Chemistry perhaps? How about Medicine !!!!
Could you imagine a professor of Surgery teaching in a University without the benefit of a Phd.
Only in this field of color politics is this allowed to happen. Because they defecate then self’s, at the thought of protesters, accusations of racism and protracted law suites.
Bulllseye2012 9 months ago
@Bulllseye2012 Ok, what is the name of the article that says he doesn't have a highschool diplomat (or presumably a G.E.D.). You saying this doesn't mean much, if you can give me the way to find the article I would appreciate it.
BigPreme 9 months ago
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@BigPreme
"what is the name of the article so i can google it"
Copy and paste the words in inverted comas your find them.
Bulllseye2012 9 months ago
@BigPreme
"In total disregard of the ancient evidence John Henrik Clarke, in a chapter entitled "African Warrior Queens" in Black Women in Antiquity, leaning heavily on the J. A. Rogers' "tradition," makes this astonishing statement:"
Bulllseye2012 9 months ago
@BigPreme
Cont:
""More nonsense has been written about Cleopatra than about any other African queen, mainly because it has been the desire of many writers to paint her white. She was not a white woman, she was not a Greek…Until the emergence of the doctrine of white superiority Cleopatra was generally pictured as a distinct African woman, dark in color.""
Bulllseye2012 9 months ago
@Bulllseye2012 Can you please provide the URL from the NYT's that says he didn't have a GED please
BigPreme 9 months ago
@BigPreme
Something is not right!
Bulllseye2012 9 months ago
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@BigPreme
Are you seriously telling me that you can not find the articles?
Bulllseye2012 9 months ago
Obituaries:
John Henrik Clarke, Black Studies Advocate, Dies at 83
NYT
July 20, 1998
Frank M. Snowden Jr., 95, Historian of Blacks in Antiquity, Dies
NYT
February 28, 2007
Bulllseye2012 9 months ago
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@BigPreme "Can you please provide the URL from the NYT's that says he didn't have a GED please"
Dude...it's called Google. I think you know how to use it. Copy and paste this in and press enter: "John Henrik Clarke, Black Studies Advocate, Dies at 83."
sleepcity 3 months ago
@BigPreme
Cont:
"In support of this statement Clarke cites a strange medley of unconvincing, if not unscholarly items: Shakespeare's description of the queen in Antony and Cleopatra as "tawny"; Cleopatra's description of herself as "black" in the Book of Acts; a reference to Cleopatra as "fat and black" in Ripley's Believe It or Not; and a modern painting of the queen by Earl Sweeney."
Snowden
Bulllseye2012 9 months ago
Rome and Greece are part of Europe Dr. Clarke. Jeez. People were in Europe and Europe existed regardless of whether they had tech or not. Listen to the audience cling desperately to the idea of Egypt being part of Africa which in reality is a technicality since the idea that crossing into Gaza from Egypt is a totally different cultural world in childishly absurd. It is sub-Saharan Africa that is a totally different cultural world.
Amunkriket 1 year ago
Clark is more like a showman than a scholar.
EsaulRuss 1 year ago
@EsaulRuss Prove him wrong.
tw1704 1 year ago
@EsaulRuss Yet you dispute nothing. Typical, lol.
AncientsReborn 1 year ago
@EsaulRuss "Clarke is more of a showman than a scholar"...he's got it like that!!
brotherhood302 11 months ago
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OK, lets forget about Greeks and Romans and Egypt. There was a civilization called "Trypilian" in the area where Bolgaria, Western Hungary and central and Western Ukraine. That Trypilian culture was advanced and on the same level as Mesopotamian Civilization and existed there as far as 5000 BC. So what connection does Africa has to that culture? Trypilians were of European stock. What can dr. Clark say about that?
EsaulRuss 1 year ago
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OK, lets forget about Greeks and Romans and Egypt. There was a civilization called "Trypilian" in the area where Bolgaria, Western Hungary and central and Western Ukraine. That Trypilian culture was advanced and on the same level as Mesopotamian Civilization and existed there as far as 5000 BC. So what connection does Africa has to that culture? Trypilians were of European stock. What can dr. Clark say about that?
EsaulRuss 1 year ago
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You Afro-centrics are brainwashed FOOLS. The vast majority of the Greeks were white, and the vast majority of Egyptians were BROWN, and NOT black, until the Nubian invasion, which occured LATE in B.C. history. Tut's recent DNA tests are laughing at you, along with the NUMEROUS pre human fossils that are being found all around the world, blowing your "Out of Africa" LUNACY away. You Afro-centrics are LIARS and thieves !
EducatedRebellion101 1 year ago
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5:17.... A Professional tells you how they really think... want even amit egypt is part of africa smh.. lord help us all
83leaf 1 year ago
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83leaf 1 year ago
@nomadicbede Damn not you again....... If I wanted to talk to you, I would have called you first.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago 4
@Boukephalos1 Hmmm...Its weird that Boukephalos1 has 3-4 thumbs up on every one of his comments on these series of videos....weird... i wonder...
jetdatboy 1 year ago
@sheepboy I don't. Down deep I know your doing it. Thank you. Maybe you don't even know your doing it. It must be a sub-conscious thing. Hell I understand, even you don't believe what you have said. Since you offered NO PROOF>
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1 "I dont. Down deep I know your doing it."....what are you referring to?
jetdatboy 1 year ago
@sheeptboy You know Sheepboy.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1 No, But it seems you do
jetdatboy 1 year ago
@sheeptboy A cubicle is just a padded cell without a door. You have a computer, a vibrator, & pizza delivery. Why should you leave the house? Save your breath…You’ll need it to blow up your date.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1 You reused that comment from the previous video. Looks like you're running out of sentences. Stop giving us stories of what you do at home.
jetdatboy 1 year ago
@sheepboy you offered NO PROOF. YOUR FINISHED, DEFEATED, HUMILIATED. Why should I respond to loser? I'd like to see things from your point of view but I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass
.And your cry-baby whiny assed opinion would be?
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1 You're the one who has been defeated. You wont stop replying. Your in the stage of denial....You cant make a flowing idea...Your arguments don't support each other....Its sad that you've resorted to personal insults.....sad.
jetdatboy 1 year ago
@sheepboy, Some days you are the dog, some days you are the tree, look how much better off you would have been if you had taken my advise sapling..
Now that's funny.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@sheeptboy As you go through life you are going to have many opportunities to keep your mouth shut.
Take advantage of all of them.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1 So far everyone has owned you. I guess I'm just another person in the long list.
jetdatboy 1 year ago
@nomadicbede look your precious time is washing here with an old coot that has bested you at every turn. but your are giving this old coot a laugh. it's not often an old coot gets to hear precious words of wisdom from a gay narcissist black. LOL! You seem to be out of your element Thank God there is little chance of you breeding. CLICK YOUR HEELS AND SAY "I NEED A LIFE, I NEED A LIFE"
Boukephalos1 1 year ago 4
@nomadicbede oh I'm a bigot. i refuse to be indoctrinated by idiots. Thank you for taking your precious(emphasis on precious, a word you surely use), time to write to me. And no you didn't ask me to get an interrupter of Russian, i suggested it . Who cares now. I would rather hear more of your grandiose narcissist’s image, and the bigger the lies required to protect it. You're better at going for funny keep it up. Even though your time is precious.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago 3
@nomadicbede Boring being the key word and the insight you gave, gay narcissist of the highest order. As for stereotype you are a walking talking one of many, I suspect this is how you introduce yourself." Allow me to introduce ourselves." Remember normal white folks, to you are only the ones that agree with you. Another insight your gift to gab gave away. No you're a open book of simpleton knowledge but you are becoming funny, however I really don't think you were going for that look.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago 3
@nomadicbede there is a word for you, Gay comes to mind. I would suggest you shut up. You started at the bottom…and it’s been downhill ever since!
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@nomadicbede My God you removed your narcissistic response. good for you, it was embarrassing. you learned something from me. amazingly funny,however, thanks for the insight. you once said in the multitude of trash you have written me I was trying to fish for information about you. i don't have to you give it freely and willing with such joy and humility it's refreshing. P.S. I have kept your words for posterity. I will use them in the background for inspiration. Hilarious!
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@nomadicbede Don`t you have a terribly empty feeling - in your skull?
Do you still love nature, despite what it did to you?
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@nomadicbede I think that's above your pay grade. Prove it. My cousin will say whether or not you know what you are saying is articulate. But in the end that has nothing to do with Greek or Egyptian history which you know nothing about and I do.Sarcasm is just one more service we offer. He doesn’t know the meaning of the word “fear” -but then again he doesn’t know the meaning of most words. If what you don`t know can`t hurt you, UR invulnerable.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@nomadicbede I wasn't speaking only of the romanoffs you moron, it's a fact from the beginning of russian aristocracy. yeah sure you speak russian. you a blowhard afro-centric idiot who thinks he is smart. Now that's the joke we can all laugh at. You haven''t competed well so far, please continue, speak louder, fill the room with your intelligence. Hilarious!
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@nomadicbede Greeks have much with Russia, look to their alphabet, language and religion. But you speak fluent Russian and you don't know that, odd? You speak fluent racism and bullshiite, that's it.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@nomadicbede You're an idiot the Romanoffs were of Viking heritage. The name serfs comes from Viking rulers of Russia. So please Shut up, you historic imbecile.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@nomadafro-wander looking for the way to combat the truths I have given, and failing. I just pushed the wrong button.Actually the Viking are the Aristocrats of the Modern European Families. You heard of the Normans William the Conqueror, the kings of Russia, Germany Denmark, Norway, Sweden, England, France, all Viking descent. they were barbarians that conquered and started civilizations that became Europe. Whereas Africa had some but never continued or advanced.Anywhere south of Egypt. poor try
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Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@nomadicbede I know what they are but the are 1400ADE so-called empires they were not empires in any stretch of the imagination. There were no discoverys they only copied but they didn't flourish or last. The remnants of these sold your ancestors into slavery. not very long ago.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago 2
@nomadicbede Without being rude , no one has ever heard of them. They present no significant value to the world. Their existence seems only to be in you mind. They certainly didn't contribute to the advancement of civilization of Africa or the World..Egypt is not yours to have. If it were black Egypt why did the Nubians retreat in 650BC if as you say they were the same culture and color? Typical afro-bullshiite now you inhabited the Americas. Reading to many Afro-centric pamphlets for Dummies.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago 2
@nomadicbede 1st of all ,like you said Who in heavens name are YOU? Who cares? As for the other 95% of africa they have NOTHING of cultural significance. That's why you afro-centrics gravitate and harp on Egypt. Without it yo have nothing. Funny how it only influenced the two near areas Nubia/Ethiopia. And I never said Egypt wasn't apart of Africa just not black Africa. So do men of scholarship.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago 2
What a farce.
astrologue 1 year ago
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Let me let U in on a little secret about this site & .about other 2 Black Athena sites It was set up to put forth the absurd theory Greeks were Black,by fyromians. They call themselves Macedonians but aren't only Greeks are Macedonians. So to degrade Greeks they had a falsified DNA & financed the author of this book. it wasn't done to exalt blacks but degrade Greeks by saying they were black and african. Now blacks ran with absurd theory not realizing it degrades them.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
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The problem is that kids today aren't taught WORLD HISTORY - the story of the HUMAN RACE, from its begginings to modern day.
Kids are taught snatches of history: the civil war etc etc.
So lots of kids grow up thinking that civilization started in Europe, when of course Africans and Asians had civilization first.
So suddenly when these young black kids find this stuff out they can be manipulated by oppurtunists like Dr Clarke, who uses it to push lots of other shit in their ears.
DrunkenPoetic 1 year ago
The problem is that kids today aren't taught WORLD HISTORY - the story of the HUMAN RACE, from its begginings to modern day.
Kids are taught snatches of history: the civil war etc etc.
So lots of kids grow up thinking that civilization started in Europe, when of course Africans and Asians had civilization first.
So suddenly when these young black kids find this stuff out they can be manipulated by oppurtunists like Dr Clarke, who uses it to push lots of other shit in their ears.
DrunkenPoetic 1 year ago
@DrunkenPoetic What evidence do you have to disprove Dr. Clarke?
tw1704 1 year ago
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he Nile receives its name from the Greek Neilos, which means a valley or river valley. The river flowed northward and flooded the lands in Egypt, leaving behind black sediment. As a result the ancient Egyptians called the river Ar or Aur (black). The Greeks and Egyptians also gave the land its oldest name Kem or Kemi, which also translates into black.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
Give your evidence to Zahri Hawass. Prove him wrong.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1 Hawass doesnt give evidence, he give his opinion based on what he follows as history. He never seems to debate anyone on the subject. He never even goes into detail of how he knows. If you have video, writings or whatever else from Hawass where he has concrete evidence, please lead me to it because i cant find it.
tw1704 1 year ago
There are two kinds of people Greeks, and those who want to be Greek.....
No one every said Egypt wasn't part of the African continent, they just weren't a black African culture.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago 2
@Boukephalos1 Once again, what is your evidence that they were not (Ethiopians)Africans from the south? I can give you evidence.
tw1704 1 year ago
afrocentrics might be nuts at times, but Egypt should be accepted as part of Africa which Rogers makes a huge mistake. the Near East was influenced by Egypt as well and the Greeks glorify Egypt way more than the Near Eastern cultures. in fact, pottery found in Mesopotamia iis influence by pottery of Sudan and most historians asy Mesopotamia predated Egypt, despite the existence of conter-factual evidence
XuanDi 1 year ago
Look the whole debate was for clarke and afro-centrics, bernal was the red-herring catalyst they use modern references about slavery to prove whites distorted history. Scholars use ancient sources, everyone used slaves back then, they enslaved their own people, they're projecting their racist rancor towards anyone objecting with them and overlooking the truth. By the way there was no racial reasoning to distort history back then,so A-centrics words are hypocritical screed and invalid.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago 4
"Do I detect some dissagreement?" <----- CLASSIC!
kfap69 1 year ago
WHAT@7:30? IS THAT HOW IT WORKS IN A DEBATE? U TOSS OUT A SILLY STORY AND DUCK THE QUESTION? holy crap...
veritaslogos 1 year ago
why are they debating about staff that doesnt make sense? what brain dead persond doesnt know that Egypt is in Africa? what idiot doesnt know that the Persians invaded Kemet, then the Greeks then later the muslims?
white people are always trying so hard to convince the world (the darker world that is) that they are intelligent but this is the BEST they can come up with? Egypt not in Africa?
where is Egypt then? in Europe? I guess Zimbabwe isnt in Africa as well :D. stupid albinos!
TheKingShakaZulu 2 years ago 3
lool you aint lying brudda
NoRiddlez 2 years ago
@TheKingShakaZulu It's a debate. Don't be a fool. Every third grader knows that Egypt is in Africa. They werent denying that. What they're saying is that Egypt is not culturally a part of africa. That the societies and climate and way of life are very different between Egypt and the rest of africa. The two are separated by the sahara desert. it isnt easy to travel from central africa to egypt.
hannityforpres 2 years ago
lool! clearly you dont have a fucken clue what you talking about! *sigh* a typical white person!
Mali, Niger, Sudan, Mauritania not part of the SAHARA? lool!
the Nubians, the Dogon, the Zulu, the Maasai e.t.c do not have a culture similar to that of ancient Egyptians? lool!
EPIC FAIL!
i am African, 100%. now white boy, LET ME TELL YOU WHO I AM not YOU TELLING ME WHO I AM. it doesnt work like that. and thats the only way you get to learn and stop embarrassing yourself!
TheKingShakaZulu 2 years ago
@TheKingShakaZulu You are clearly not very intelligent. Where did I say that Sudan and niger werent part of the sahara? i didnt. I said, egypt is separated from the rest of africa by the sahara desert, that is a fact.
hannityforpres 2 years ago
Sudan shares a boarder with Egypt. how is Sudan separated from Egypt when they share a boarder? you are not making any sense you ignorant twat!
TheKingShakaZulu 2 years ago
@hannityforpres but that is a more recent develpement, egypt was once more fertile than it is now. look it up.
rasronin 1 year ago
clark is such an arrogant blatant racist asshole - how can he get away with saying this stuff. He brought his blind followers to cheer him on as he preached his false prophecy
qbslug 2 years ago
Dr.Clarke is arrogant and racist because he's stating facts, documentation and sources? Its called a SCHOLARLY ASS Whipping. Egypt was in its 23rd Dynasty (10,000 yrs) before the Greeks came on the scene. He's saying state info to the contrary, its not his fault that they can't do it. Thats because such documentation DOES NOT EXIST. The asshole questioning him says "even if i concede that Egypt is part of Africa" This FOOL doesn't even know that Egypt is in Africa. Dr. Clarke handled him right.
mrfreaknasssty 2 years ago 5
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You afrocentrics really require these myths, your lack of self worth so revealed by your race conscious effort to usurp a nationality as if it were yours, when you have no relationship at all with them. The problem you have is we would have to deny what has been written, what we see, what we know, we would have to wipe are minds clear to believe your myths, if this were 2000BC it may have worked but alas, Ur 3000 yrs to late to get away with UR myths. Thank God for that.
Boukephalos1 2 years ago
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Afrocentrism is largely what in old Marxist days used to called false consciousness: a systematically mistaken view of reality which can be explained from the historical trajectory traversed, in recent centuries, by the collectivity (mainly African Americans, but also an increasing number of Africans) holding these views. The true value of Afrocentrism is zero, in other words Afrocentrism is entirely mythical
SO NO GREEKS WERE NOT AFRICAN OR BLACK
Boukephalos1 2 years ago
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Simply this book was written, financed by skopjia, Fyrom, they are upset with Greece for vetoing their name change to Macedonia.They aren't Macedonia. Written to Diminish Greeks Historically by inferring blacks are inferior, and if Greeks are black, they must be inferior also. I am sure Clarke and afoul-centrists are to inconceivably dumb to realize it.. Afoul-centrists can't grasp the simple analogy that skojians are trying to present. Hilarious! Greeks did, & blacks didn't, UR not Greek.
Boukephalos1 2 years ago
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amergk 1 year ago 15
Middle from WHAT !!!!....:)
N4KHTI 2 years ago 3
CRACKERS ALWAYS GET CAUGHT IN LIES
bomsheeta 2 years ago 2
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Niggers always make up lies!
mikeg642000 2 years ago
This audience is a goddam mess.
nyiskillinme 2 years ago 2
You white ppl cannot handle the truth hell some black ppl cant even handle the truth lol
nappyg1 2 years ago
Pt.2
".....The work suggests that the SKIN-WHITENING MUTATION occurred by chance in a single individual after the first human exodus FROM AFRICA,"
By Rick Weiss
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 16, 2005; A01
knowitallification 2 years ago
"In 20 years naybe he will be wise enough to ask me a question that I'll care to answer".....That does not explain why in the temple of Suis Alexander was announced as the "son of the God". Dr.Clarke's arguments are based on the impression of the emotionally biased audience.
aliekous 2 years ago
and your point is?
knowitallification 2 years ago
About Alexander the great:There is no evidence that such dialog between the priest and Alexander ever took place-let alone that such behavior (from the priest's part) doesn't make any sense since it was the priests of this very temple that announced Alexander son of the God.
About the debate:The arguments Dr.Clarke is using are not of academic nor scientific nature.He aims to ignite the audience's enthusiasm by saying catchy lines (as above) while he tries to turn an (should be)academic debate
aliekous 2 years ago
.......to a political conversation.
aliekous 2 years ago
"It will be maintained in this book that the oldest mythology religion symbols language had their birthplace in Africa, that the primitive race of Kam came thence, and the civilization attained in Egypt emanated from that country and spread over the world. The most reasonable view on the evolutionary theory, is that THE BLACK RACE IS THE MOST ANCIENT AND THAT AFRICA IS THE PREMORDIAL HOME"
Gerald Massey 'the distinguished historian'
A BOOK OF THE BEGINNINGS VOL 2 publ. 1881
knowitallification 2 years ago 2
your assertions with regards to Dr Clarke's demeanor are your opinions and not of an academic nature....they're simply just that...unimportant opinion and conjecture with what you feel is taking place....again your own unimportant personal feelings which have no regard to the exchange taking place (smile)
knowitallification 2 years ago
I respect your evaluation of my opinion but I believe it is biased and not objective as you do not justify your points of view. The importance of anybody's opinion (including mine and yours) in this channel is to be judged from its content. I made my assertions regarding Dr.Clarke's behavior based on his words and not on my personal feelings (as you did regarding my assertions). And how "academic" do yo feel Dr.Clarke's phrase "I debate with my equals, the others I teach" is?I call it arrogance.
aliekous 2 years ago
You continually reference whay you believe and don't believe....what you believe with regards to ANYTHING is inconsequential as realates to this platform. Assertions are made....they should successfully corroborated, conceded or refuted....surgically, or butressed in an immutable way.
knowitallification 2 years ago
Pt.2
"There was really NO EUROPE in ancient times......and Europe as we know it was divided by the Rhine-Danube frontier, south and west of which lay the civilized provinces of the empire, and north and east the ''BARBARIANS' of whom the civilized world KNEW ALMOST NOTHING"
A HISTORY OF THE MODERN WORLD
R.R. Palmer (Prof. Yale University)
and Joel Colton (Prof. of History at Duke University)
knowitallification 2 years ago
Pt.1
"After the Greeks (and thus the Romans) were CIVILIZED BY THE AFRICANS IN EGYPT most of what we now know as 'Europe' was still barbaric, and unheard of."
knowitallification 2 years ago
"....authorities give the name 'Cecrops' to the Pharoah who is supposed to have been the first to lead a colony from Egypt to Greece..."
"In Jeromes reading of the Armenian Chronicle, it is said of this Pharoah Thothmes IV., that after he had reigned five years in Egypt, he was driven from the throne by his brother 'Egyptus' and fled to Greece, where he founded the city of Argos, and reigned over the Argives under the name of Danaus.
Cory's 'Ancient Fragments' p. 119
knowitallification 2 years ago
"......Back in the centuries......when history gives only vague hintings are traces of a WIDESPREAD......CIVILIZATION......RULING THE WORLD from it's seats of power in the Valley of the Ganges, the Eurphrates and the Nile and it was of BLACK RACES. The first Babylon seems to have been a Negroid race. The earliest Egyptian civilization seems to have been NEGROID. It was in the days before the semite was known in either land....."
J.P. Widney
RACE LIFE OF THE ARYAN
(publ. 1907)
knowitallification 2 years ago
"Ever since the attention of the civilized world was redirected to Egypt at the beginnings of the 19th century, the SCIENTIFIC INVESTIGATION of its innumerable monuments has pointed with ever-growing CERTAINTY to the valley of the Nile AS THE CRADLE OF HISTORY AND HUMAN CULTURE"
KARL BAEDEKER, EGYPT AND THE SUDAN: Handbook for Travellers (1914)
knowitallification 2 years ago
Pt.1
White People are Just Mutants
Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin
"Scientists said yesterday that they have discovered a tiny GENETIC MUTATION that largely explains the FIRST appearance of white skin in humans tens of thousands of years ago, a finding that helps solve one of biology's most enduring mysteries and illuminates one of humanity's GREATEST SOURCES OF STRIFE."
knowitallification 2 years ago 2
yo knowitall you got info I will read it send it to my email. Thanks bro
nappyg1 2 years ago
In 654 BCE, Psammetichus drove he Assyrians with the help of Greek mercenaries
The illustrious names of Psammetichus, Necho, and Amasis, of the 26th dynasty in Sais, are known to every reader of Herodotus. on one hand, these kings rewarded the Greeks, by allowing them to learn in Egypt, which was the direct cause of the sudden appearance of "Greek Minds".
knowitallification 2 years ago
c'mon 'aliekos'...show me what you got...I'm saving the good stuff...let's go. Courtesy of Dr Clarke....He lives!!!!!
knowitallification 2 years ago
kahkanyah...I dont know which debate you were watching...but Dr. Clarke clearly put those two arrogant idiots in their places with little to no effort..the audience wernt dummies either. NOT EVERYBODY can be led like a herd of sheep by a bunch of "intellectual" fools with a superiority complex.
sezylioness 2 years ago
I would agree with you, but only with the characters reversed.
mikeg642000 2 years ago
WHITE PEOPLE ARE IMMUNE TO THE TRUTH
knowitallification 2 years ago
The truth as you see it!
mikeg642000 2 years ago
The problem with whites is that they don't do their homework.....they think 'being' white automatically makes them right and gives them the last word in any debate.
Choke on this crackuhh!!!:
"Cecrops is said to have been a native of Sais, in Egypt, who led a colony to Greece"
St. Augustine
De Civitate Dei, lib. xviii. (Parian Chronicle at Oxford)
knowitallification 2 years ago
Choke on this you crakka
"....authorities give the name 'Cecrops' to the Pharoah who is supposed to have been the first to lead a colony from Egypt to Greece..."
"In Jeromes reading of the Armenian Chronicle, it is said of this Pharoah Thothmes IV., that after he had reigned five years in Egypt, he was driven from the throne by his brother 'Egyptus' and fled to Greece, where he founded the city of Argos, and reigned over the Argives under the name of Danaus.
Cory's 'Ancient Fragments' p. 119
knowitallification 2 years ago