Brian McLaren - The Emergent Church of Satan

[daveme7]

Wow! Wow! Seeing much that many try to warn and emcourage to stand against heresy and lies-this verse right there that most would never use-this is absolutely the best with just one verse. Good job and God bless-Dave Emme

[JimQualls]

@daveme7 Thanks, have blessed New Year!

[JimQualls]

Luke 12:5

But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

KJV

[JimQualls]

Thanks, Opios80

Brian McLaren, Obama the Muslim, New Age Mystics, and atheists all worship the same god without ever realizing it.

[Philos2006]

JimQualls : The beauty of the bible is: that for every verse you can find another one saying the exact opposite or at least can be interpreted as such.

[JimQualls]

Dear Philos, You don't appear to know enough about Salvation to claim you have it.

[JimQualls]

Heb 10:29-31

29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

KJV

[Abarmad]

All you are defending, Dear Jim, is your interpretation of the Gospel. I hope you ever miss the main point: LOVE GOD AND OTHERS. Aside from the that, everithing is a side dish, a scintilla.

[JimQualls]

2 Peter 1:20-21

20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

KJV

[JimQualls]

My personal view is that those who REJECT the Word of God have NO right to call themselves "Christian."

[Abarmad]

Jim, could you please stop writing as if you owned the truth and the unique biblical itnerpetation? The worst testimony Christians can give to the world are these posts. Attacking each other, insulting, offending. Lower the tone, and stop looking for the tiny details that make you different from Brian, instead, consider Jesus' love as the biggest link between you and Brian, and all other christians in the world. God bless you.

[JimQualls]

Dear Abarmad, my personal view is that those who reject the Word of God have no reason to expect that they would be included as "Brothers in Christ."

Brian is on his way to a Christless eternity it is our duty to warn others of his theology from hell.

Through His Blood,

Jim

[JimQualls]

Heb 10:29

Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

KJV

[victor95405]

And don't forget to read some more books as well. That way you can help take the WHOLE gospel, to the WHOLE world.

[JimQualls]

Dear Victor, The WHOLE Gospel is, "The Blood of Jesus Christ Cleanses from Sin." If you miss that part, you don't have any Gospel to tell.

[JimQualls]

Rev 1:5

And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

KJV

[victor95405]

Go ahead. God said: You cand take my job and start telling people what their eternal destiny will be.

And the people who call themselves christians started judging everyone who didn't agree with them and God saw that it was good to have this kind of agents. And less people paid atention to what true love in the world really is.

[victor95405]

You yourself Jimqualls cannot judge me by what I say or write even if you read the whole bible to me (Which i've read) Only God, so stop judging me and other people. Stop dog.

[JimQualls]

Victor, The WORD OF GOD will judge you, not I.

Read the BIBLE.

[victor95405]

But you said WE can safely judge people by using the word of God. You said to Karen that "when one denies the Blood of Chirst that person can safely be judged NOT to be a Christian". If we judge we are judges. Read your comments again. If the word of God judges people why do you go around using it to judge everyone?

[JimQualls]

Dear victor: I am talking God and His eternal judgment. As living in this world your rejection of the Word of God is enough for me to determine that I need not count you among my "Christian" brethren.

[victor95405]

Excuse me JimQualls..Is just a question, when the heck did I rejected the Word of God? Have you read the entire bible? Have you read that you are not God and you cannot judge others? You are amazing.

[JimQualls]

Dear Victor, If you believe the Satanic garbage preached by McLaren, you have rejected the Word of God. McLaren has NO right to claim he is as Biblical Christian.

And yes, I have read the entire Bible. That is why I refuse to call EVIL good.

[victor95405]

You judge his works as "satanic garbage" when it seems to me you probably haven't even HONESTLY read them entirely. Maybe you heard or read some parts and haven't taken the time to understand the concepts he presents for our times, and for SOME people only, in their entirety. You must know something very well to talk about it fairly. What he finally says is he and other emergent christian leaders are looking for ways to talk to some people of our time in ther terms with the help of God.

[JimQualls]

Dear Victor:

Jesus....Matt 23:15-17 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

17 Ye fools and blind:

KJV

[victor95405]

hahaha, Wow, do you use the Word only to attack and judge and condemn or do you ever use it to bless? I bet you'd be happy if they gave you a gun to go kill innocent palestinians. Is the same as giving your vote to stupid people who'd only provoke more and more wars.

[JimQualls]

Dear Victor, Most Arab/Muslims who call themselves "palestinians" support Islamic suicide bombers who murder Jewish babies, women, the elderly, and any other passers by who might be in the area. "Innocent" is not the right term to describe Arab/Muslims who support the murder of God's Chosen people.

[victor95405]

How so close minded. Hey your proposals are great. They help a lot. It hurts a lot more if a jewish baby dies, than if a Palestinian dies. Oh yes fuck them all arabs, they are terribles terrorists. All Jews are innocents. You are crazy JimQualls

[JimQualls]

Not Araba, Vicotr, Muslim Arabs. Some Arabs do not worship pagan gods from the 7th century.

[JimQualls]

Dear Victor:

2 Tim 4:2-4

Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

KJV

[victor95405]

What's that about JimQualls. No, seriously, do you ever hold out a normal conversation with people? Do you think Jesus walked around everyone with a bible in his hands judging and reproving everyone? Did he become friends with diferent people, people that could be considered enemies of the jewish people,..my God, did he become friends with whores for Godsakes. I must just stop talking to you since you only evade and try to look good to the people who might read this comments. You read your bible

[victor95405]

I can say I believe this or that yet the only one who can judge me at the end is God, not you. The same with other people, but we simply are no judges. You must start thinking that that is probably one of the worst sins we can commit over and over again Stop judging once and for all. You sound like muslim fundamentalist people calling us "the unfaithful, the damned"

[JimQualls]

Dear Victor. The WORST sin is denying that the Blood of Jesus Christ was shed for the forgivness of sins. Those who deny the blood atonement have NO right to expect to be accepted as Christians.

[victor95405]

PART 3

We should not take God's job. We are not judges remember that at least one day for godsakes. Bye

[JimQualls]

Dear Victor, There is no CROSS-LESS Christianity. If someone places his trust for salvation in anything other than the Blood of Christ, that somone is NOT part of the Christian Brotherhood. That is simple,yet profound, Biblical truth.

[victor95405]

You do not know the eternal destiny of anybody. When will you understand that? You can not judge. Stop being judgemental with Brian or with anybody.

[victor95405]

AND please my brothers love people in the whole world just as you love yourselves, the most basic truth ever recorded in the Bible. Love your enemies for godsakes.

[JimQualls]

Dear Victor95: The MOST basic truth in the New Testament is that "Ye Must Be Born Again." If you reject the Perfect Blood Sacrifice Christ on the Cross, there is NO way to be "born again." LOVE is trying to turn someone from darkness to Light. Letting someone go to HELL and take others with him is NOT love.

[victor95405]

PART 2

You should not become the most cited christian intelectual of all time but at least prove to people very well that you know Brian Mc Laren in depth, for example, that you have read at least a book by him and other emergent leaders or whatever you wanna call them. American christian amaze me for being so ignorant. Heck my brothers and sisters I'm from Spain and I know about those incredible christian leaders more than you. We must read more and stop judging.

We must stop judging people.

[victor95405]

Part 1

you people are so blind and crazy, really, it amazes me to hear you say you can "safely judge" a person a christian or a non-christian. You are no judges at all, not a little not a lot. You are people and you gotta get out of your churches and not just go to christian bookstores, but to any kind of bookstore, you must first know something before you talk about it. At least a little bit for Christ sake.

[EncompassedRunner]

Ay-yai-yai, no apprehension of the concept of God's holiness or God's justice. A cross-less Christianity. (And as an aside, this is one of the main guys influencing and supporting Obama.)

[weeweelegs]

the finnished work of the cross has torn the veal in two that who so ever receives the gift and repents is washed in the blood of the lamb,there is only one way to heaven through the man Christ Jesus and the sacrifice of Calvary, hallelu YAH

[JimQualls]

Thanks, weeweelegs, "He who washed us from our sins in His Own Blood,"

[pianohbc]

So they become the church "emerging" in to something else than the Christian church - maybe the church of Satan ?

[JimQualls]

Hi Pianohbc: These guys are invading mainstream denominations. Christianity Today is a big backer of many of these guys, not that I would suggest "Christianity Today" would be on my recommended reading list.

[pastorgeorgec]

Sigh

So many heresies so little time!

[JimQualls]

The fact that these heretics are accepted as "Christians" should alert us to how little the Bible is being read by "Christians" in America.

[o7jimmy]

Thanks brother Jim. My lord is wonderful and has and will do wonderfully. :)

[lotis333]

What kind of Christian leader would say such a thing? Thanks for sharing this.

[JimQualls]

Hi Lotis, This is the Emergent Church theology. They say that if the Blood of Christ was required to cleanse sin then God is a sadistic child abuser.

[KarensFaith]

Alan Jones, another leader in the Emergent church called the death of Christ on the cross a vile doctrine. It just amazes me what they say! And get away with! And get defended for! Christians have lost their discernment because they do not read their Bibles.

[JimQualls]

Hi Karen, I think when one denies the Blood of Chirst that person can safely be judged NOT to be a Christian. If Christian bookstores are really "Christian", why are they carrying these authors?

[KarensFaith]

You got that right! I don't see how they can even be considered Christian when they deny the blood atonement of Jesus Christ. Yet they are defended by their followers and I get called a non-believer because I tell others the truth about them. Deception is total it seems when it comes to some of them. I have no idea why bookstores carry their books, must be the almighty dollar. Shame, really...I used to love to go to the Christian bookstore. Not anymore.