For All New Covenant Christians --- From Your Bible Alone

[jkw733]

Found elsewhere:

"God gave to Adam a law of universal obedience written in his heart...The same law that was first written in the heart of man continued to be a perfect rule of righteousness after the fall, and was delivered by God upon Mount Sinai, in ten commandments, and written in two tables, the first four containing our duty towards God, and the other six, our duty to man" [1689 London Baptist Confession, ch.19, sec.1,2]

*See also the (1646) Westminster Confession, ch.XIX, sec. i, ii.

[mark0454]

@jkw733 Good evening Jim. I hope you are well. It is good to see that you are making videos again. Your quote from the London Baptist Confessional and the Westminister Confessional is one of the many reasons that I am not a Calvinist, Presbyterian, Puritan, or Reformed Baptist.

This statement is an anathema to evangelical/fundamental Baptist doctrine. What God states that he did and did not tell Adam is a vital part of sotoriology. This statement is not supported by the Bible.

[jkw733]

rus, it seems that cmam has that same old tired evangelical idea that as long as they claim the name of Jesus, everything's okay and they're saved for eternity no matter what, and that He has set us all FREE from having to follow His and His Father's instructions because Jesus "fulfilled the law so nobody else needs to!"?

[rusda2]

It makes me sick to hear those silly things how about you?

I am sending you a PM I got from one of our bashers, its rather long and its the same old silliness but I thought you may like to read it when you get the time :)

[jkw733]

I just wonder how the pastors of these people think they're gonna get off scot-free after feeding all of that "Pablum" to their parishioners that makes them overly confident of their salvation to the point of presumptuousness; I feel more sorry for them than sick, because they don't even realize how deceived they are.

[rusda2]

I guess the reason I feel sick is feeling sorry for them...I hope so anyway. I dont hate them as bing likes to accuse me and all other SDa's of, but I just cannot believe the "educated" ignorance of these mainliners, it is just incredible. they are so deceived and yet the devil has them fooled into believing they are right. it's surreal.

[jkw733]

Lev. 10:9-11 "Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations:

And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy [i.e., the Sabbath vs. ANY other day!], and between unclean and clean [i.e., edible creatures vs. ABOMINATIONS!];

And that ye may teach the children of Israel all the statutes which the LORD hath spoken unto them by the hand of Moses".

[jkw733]

Heb. 10:28-30 "He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath

trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing,

and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace [who CONVICTS of sin!]?

For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord

The Lord shall judge his people".

[cmammlj]

@rusda2, your answering after all this time ? - geezh!

Again, please provide me with NT sacripture I asked the last time I was on here (3 questions I asked).

*Where in the NT that Sabbath breaking/4th Commandment is a Sin ?

*Will Sabbath breakers inherit God's kingdom ?

*What are the consequnences in the NT for Sabbath breaking ?

Please provide NT scripture from the gospels & book of Rev that Jesus kept the Sabbath/4th Commandment to avoid the Mark of the Beast like SDAs do today ?

[jkw733]

cmam, can't you ever ask anything other than those same old tired silly questions that make no sense at all? You know how to read your Bible for your answers already, and you DEFINITELY know that there has been NO mark of the beast order made yet, so lose your silliness; it isn't becoming .

[rusda2]

I particularly like the last one where Jesus kept the Sabbath to avoid the mark of the beast...LOL  ;)

[cmammlj]

@rusda2, Jesus did speak in the gospels & the book of Revelation. Those questions should be a breeze for you to answer by providing scripture;

* Where does it say the NT that Sabbath breaking is a Sin ?

* Where does it say in the NT what the consequences are for Sabbath breaking ?

* Will Sabbath breakers inherit God's kingdom ?

* Did Jesus say in the book of Rev He kept the Sabbath to avoid the Mark of the Beast ?

[rusda2]

If it wasnt a sin, no one would be "breaking" it...get it? Sabbath breaking a sin? 1Jo 3:4...sin is the transgression of the law.

Consequences? Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death

inherit kingdom? Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints (saved): here [are] they that KEEP the COMMANDMENTS of God (as opposed to those who DONT and are LOST in verse 11) and the faith of Jesus (faith of Jesus includes commandment keeping).

no mark in Jesus time, it's for end times people to take/avoid.

[rusda2]

cmammlj, you mean like when you blasphemed by calling Gods Holy Sabbath day "s*ucky"?

[cmammlj]

@rusda2, you said that "sucky" is a sexual content word that killed Jesus.

[jkw733]

cmam, you call the only HOLY day of the week "Sucky", so your issue about THAT is with Him who MADE it holy; the very Lord Jesus Christ whom you profess to be serving!

[rusda2]

Howdy man! :)

[jkw733]

Hello there, rus! How's everything going with y'all?

[cmammlj]

@jkw733 , Jesus is Not Sabbath centered. He does not praise & whorship Sabbath like SDAs do. Jesus never kept the Sabbath to avoid the Mark of the Beast.

[jkw733]

cmam, you need to show the world ANYBODY who has ever "kept the Sabbath to avoid the Mark of the Beast".

[jkw733]

"He does not praise & whorship Sabbath like SDAs do"

So --- um-m-m-m --- because you choose to worship on SUNDAY means that you worship Sundays?

DUH!!!

[rusda2]

cmam why do you keep making that totally ignorant statement? what is your point? do you not believe that our sin killed Jesus? using dirty language and sexual references is sin is it not? but then you a professing christian think that a sin filled "R" rated movie full of cussing sex and violence, is "cool" to quote your own words about the filthy film Carlitos Way. so I am not surprised that you think filthy language is ok for "christians".

[cmammlj]

@rusda2 , "Carlito's Way"? - I threw that movie away a long time ago. Proves how little you know yet SDAs go & watch 'R' rated movies themselves.

Please cut & paste Proof where I ever said that bad language, violence & sex is Ok ?

[rusda2]

@cmammlj oh, you threw it away a long time ago yet you still get on youtube and tell one of your buddies how COOL it is? you were a "christian" when you said calitos way is "cool" yet now you you want to act all innocent and twist out of it eh? typical. why not just be HONEST and admit that you like R rated movies and that you think it's ok with Jesus that you watch the filth?

[jkw733]

" Please cut & paste Proof where I ever said that bad language, violence & sex is Ok ? "

ACTIONS speak louder than words; obviously in order to have thrown something away, it had to have been in your possession via either gift or purchase. If it is true that you bought that movie with the money that GOD has entrusted you of being its steward, to then discard it as you did, you "said that bad language, violence & sex is OK" BY YOUR ACTIONS.

[SolaScriptura21]

@cmammlj People from every religion go to R rated movies, that statement means nothing. Jesus is not sabbath centered? He is moraly centered, and the 4th commandment is part of his moral law, plain and simple, if God knew it was going to be abolished he would not have put it on the everlasting moral law.

[jkw733]

"if God knew it was going to be abolished he would not have put it on the everlasting moral law" --- but KNOWING that it would at some point in time be "forgotten", He said to REMEMBER to keep the Sabbath day, which is the ONLY day of the week He has ever made holy, holy.

[SolaScriptura21]

@jkw733 Ya, he knew human reason would reason away his law. When he rested on the 7th day he made it holy and made it for holy use, this tells us that he used it more then once, and applied it when sin entered into the world.

[jkw733]

Not only did He make the Sabbath holy, He also WAITED until his Creation had been complete with human beings made in His own image BEFORE He instituted it, in order that He could SHARE the pleasures of His rest time with EVERY ONE OF THEM; 100% of mankind!.

[SolaScriptura21]

@jkw733 exactly, people try to say God did not give man the sabbath at creation, so what they are saying is that God told adam and eve to hide somewhere while he kept the sabbath by Himself, thats selfishness if im not mistaken and thats not in Gods nature, and they cant explain how it is a type or shadow if it was created at creation and how itll be kept in the new heavens and new earth.

[jkw733]

It seems as if the majority of PROFESSED Christians are going through the same "stumbling-block experience" in THEIR walk regarding the Sabbath, as the Jews are, regarding the acknowledgment and acceptance of Jesus as the SOLE Messiah of mankind.

The Sabbath, having preceded all human sin, cannot logically serve as a "shadow" of ANYTHING. How is it that, since only a holy God can make holy things, a WORKDAY which has become a manmade SUBSTITUTE for His holy Sabbath day. is said to be "holy"?

[SolaScriptura21]

@cmammlj "Jesus never kept the sabbath to avoid the mark of the beast" That is a silly statement. Was the ati Christ prophecied to come at creation? And why would Christ be subject to the mark of the beast, that means he can sin, an utterly silly statement to put it nicely.

[cmammlj]

@jkw733, The questions I ask are "silly" to you? Why ?

Those questions should be easy for you and any other SDA to answer by providing scripture.

How hard can it be for an SDA to answer 3 questions, particually if the SDA believes there "silly"; that's gotta be easy for you to answer papa Jkw.

[jkw733]

"Where does it say the NT that Sabbath breaking is a Sin ?" James 2:10-12-" sin is the transgression of the law", done by Sabbath-breaking.

Where does it say in the NT what the consequences are for Sabbath breaking ?" Rev. 21:8-"the unbelieving" are among those lost; 22:14- "BLESSED are they that DO His commandments"

"Will Sabbath breakers inherit God's kingdom ?" Not if they know better.

"Did Jesus say in the book of Rev He kept the Sabbath to avoid the Mark of the Beast ?" No mark then.

[rusda2]

yeah just answering now cuz I just noticed it...don't worry over your stuff too much because you cancel yourself out with your own questions.

[rusda2]

I had to come back and watch this again...it's just too good. when you gonna do some more jkw? you need to take all your comments that you leave on other channels and put them into notepad and save the file...then you would have tons of video material :) I wish I had done that for your comments and my own.

[jkw733]

rus, I have saved some of them, maybe I'll follow up with more videos with some of them. If we're ambitious enough, we could always go back over the past couple years' worth of postings here and there, and copy/paste to our hearts' content?

[cmammlj]

I asked first Rusda2. You can't answer a question w/a question.

The other 9 commandments are mentioned in the NT but not the 4th commandment.

Please just show me where it's written in the NT that Sabbath breaking is a Sin, what are the consequnces for Sabbath breaking & will a Sabbath breaker inherit God's kingdom ?

[jkw733]

"The other 9 commandments are mentioned in the NT but not the 4th commandment"

cmam, you fully realize that your statement is only a copout attempt at trying to find a loophole for justifying a person's intentional disobedience to ANY of God's commandments; James 2 says you might as well forget about THAT. He gave TEN, no fewer, EVERY ONE properly revealing HIS OWN CHARACTER., INCLUDING His propensity AND HIS OWN PERSONAL CHOICE of SABBATH rest!

Take your weak B.S. protests elsewhere.

[jkw733]

B.S. = Breaking Sabbaths; what else? ;oD

[RemixtLatino]

Hey C, you made a statement here.

"The other 9 commandments are mentioned in the NT but not the 4th commandment"

Question for you. Can you find me where in the NT is written to not take the name of the Lord in vain? Thanks in advance.

God bless :)

[cmammlj]

@RemixtLatino, 2Tim3KJV, "blasphemers", which take God's name in vain. That's sin.

[RemixtLatino]

Hi C.

This is the Bible definition of blasphemy. Consider forging sins found in Luke 5:21. That is blasphemy. Lets find another example though :)

A man who claims to be God. For example, you can read in John 10:31-33 to see what I mean.

There is no taking of the Lord's name in vain here in these examples. However, you have examples of what defines blasphemy.

C, that commandment does not exist in the NT, yet you & others want to focus on 4th one :/

[RemixtLatino]

forgiving* sins...

[RemixtLatino]

I read your text btw, and C, thats a stretch. The word blasphemy is among quite a list of others. The context is not commandments. I asked you to show me the 3rd commandment in the NT, not a word in a different context not related to the question. This is describing the last days and what men will be like. Again, it is not stating commandments.

I thank you for your time tho C :) I point out the following because I believe you see it too :) God bless in your studies.

[cmammlj]

@RemixtLatino, blessings to you also RL :)

[RemixtLatino]

Thank you C.

I do hate to focus on differences, I do. Rarely does anyone ever change their mind, but, you do see how that 3rd commandment is missing in the NT right? Yet at the same time, who would dare say we can now take the name of the Lord in vain, even as its missing in the NT.

Btw, the 4th Commandment is repeated at least 3 times in the NT but before moving on to that, I would first like us both to acknowledge that the 3rd is missing.

[rusda2]

IMMEDIATELY AFTER Jesus died on the cross and SEALED the new covenant what did HE (our example) and his CLOSEST followers do?

Jesus KEPT the Sabbath even in his death, then he raised BEFORE sunrise While it was still DARK to keep people from attaching any significance to the pagan sunday, then on sunday He went back to WORK.

then his closest followers "KEPT the Sabbath day ACCORDING TO THE COMMANDMENT. this is ALL NEW COVENANT examples of Christ & His people, the Christians.

[cmammlj]

hello

[cmammlj]

Rusda2, Then just show me where it says in the New Testament/New Covenant:

*That Sabbath breaking is a Sin (?)

*What are the consequences for Sabbath breaking (?)

*Will Sabbath breakers inherit God's kingdom (?)

[rusda2]

show where breaking the Sabbath is NOT a sin.

same consequences as other nine, wages of sin (breaking Gods law) is death.

those who ignorantly broke Sabbath will be saved if their heart was otherwise right with God. God knows hearts & knows who would have obeyed Him if they were clear on the subject. those who willfully sin by breaking the Sabbath, or any other commandment, will not inherit eternal life, because there "remaineth no more sacrifice for sin".

nice talking to you :)...bye.

[rusda2]

Excellent video jkw, next time you put one out let me know...I didnt know you were making any more.

you should put this teaching in a PDF document people can download and then you could greatly expand upon it as well. you should write a book on this.

[jkw733]

I wasn't aware that you weren't already on my Subscriber list, rus; I'll let you know of future vids.

[rusda2]

sorry man I just checked and it shows I am subscribed in my "options" section but I looked in your list of subscribers to your videos and i am not there...youtube error again? ...anyway I am going to update my options to your videos to a different setting and see if that makes a difference.

[jkw733]

You may have subscribed under another account you used to have?

[rusda2]

possibly so but I dint see any. in any case I was according to my account settings subscribed to your videos. i changed the settings to still subbed but to everything you do like commenting etc so maybe that will fix it I dont know.

[IfollowChristJesus]

This video is Biblically correct. Why do some insist that this comes from any denomination? All one has to do is open their Bible, pray, read and then study! And they will come up with TRUTH!

[jkw733]

You are correct in your statements, IfollowChristJesusl thank you for your input!

It seems that the main issue between those who strive to arrive at ALL truth, and those who will not receive it, is that the latter choose to base their determinations on hearsay and popular opinions which keep them surrounded with "friends" and supporters of a similar attitude, rather than having the holy boldness, AMBITION, and determination to fully commit to Christ's leadings in these matters.

God bless!

[jkw733]

"Why isn't the SDA church putting Sabbath breakers to death ?"

Vengeance belongs to GOD, cmam, in both the Old AND New Testament writings. He has NEVER required SDAs to kill ANY other people, whether or not they break the Sabbath. Jump off your merry-go-round about that.

[jkw733]

"SDAs claim they're the only church that keeps the Sabbath completely"

YOU made this up; we make no such claim.

"... explain why & how come ... "

this is a redundancy; "why" AND "how come" are BOTH THE SAME.

JESUS, Matt. 28:18,19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to OBSERVE ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER I HAVE COMMANDED YOU: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen".

[jkw733]

"Teaching them to OBSERVE ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER I HAVE COMMANDED YOU"

Most Christians accept that Jesus IS INDEED the Person of the Godhead who communicated with Adam and Eve, as well as all of the Old Testament prophets who were INSPIRED to write the Scriptures as they did; therefore HE wrote out the Ten Commandments which He then gave to Moses, on two separate occasions. What say you NOW?

[cmammlj]

Jkw, again there's no requirment, no demand, no obligation to keep the Sabbath/4th Commandment. If Sabbath breaking was serious then it would be written in the NT & so would the consequences. Jesus would have preahced about it a lot, particually in His sermon on the Mount.

SDAs obey the writings of EG White, that is considered serving man. Even after her death her writings have hold on the SDA people.

Jesus is the only One I want to have full authority & hold on me. That is my choice.

[jkw733]

"Jkw, again there's no requirment, no demand, no obligation to keep the Sabbath/4th Commandment"

cmcm, also there's no way to cut the Fourth Commandment iapart from the other nine. Jesus spoke that they ALL last "till heaven and earth pass ... till all be fulfilled". They're still here, and the Final Judgment is still future, so all is not fulfilled.

SDAs obey the BIBLE that was there LONG BEFORE Ellen White. Her writings only AFFIRM it.

Jesus' authority DOES call for obedience to His Father.

[rusda2]

Jesus is the One Who WROTE the Sabbath commandment of the OT in the first place. The bible tells us that God does NOT change, Jesus Christ the SAME, YESTERDAY (OT), TODAY (NT) & FOREVER (New Heaven/Earth).

Why is it so hard to understand this BASIC BIBLE teaching? The New Cov did not do away with the duty of Christians to KEEP Gods/Jesus 10 Commandment Law. Paul said shall we SIN (break God's law) because we are under grace? God Forbid! (NEVER). No law means no sin, do you ever sin?

[cmammlj]

hello

[rusda2]

hello.

[jkw733]

cmam, "nowhere in the NT does it say that breaking the Sabbath" is NOT a sin, either; the issue is, as I presented in the video, serving God, or serving man.

The mark of the beast is represented in Revelation as being received by all who REFUSE, for WHATEVER reason, to serve God, but serve man instead. MAN has instituted religious practices contrary to God's specific instructions.

God is God; to serve Him in LOVE involves our OBEDIENCE and FULL COMPLIANCE with His will, JUST AS JESUS DID.

[jkw733]

I want to emphasize that this video is presented not because anybody is presently "right' or "wrong", but only in focusing upon what GOD has asked of His people of all ages, which I believe should supersede ANYTHING developed by man in reducing these requests to mere human concepts and conclusions.

May God bless you and draw you ever nearer to Himself, as you consider the information herein provided!