@cuakevinlex judo? seriously kung fu and karate drive but using the opponents strength against him but judo is best facing a unbalanced opponent think about that.
@cuakevinlex Kung Fu and Taekwondo can't grapple. A fight without a referee breaking up when the fighters hug is (almost) always won by the style that knows how to grapple.
How do you expect to do a tornado kick when a Judoka is hugging you? Just saying.
@Hoekzema And how do you expect to take someone to the ground and put them in an arm bar, when they're kicking you in the face? It goes both ways . . . I don't think either art is better than the other, both are useful.
@LittleRonny90 Just watch ANY MMA match that's out there. as soon as there are (almost) no rules the fight will always takes place on the ground after a grappling wrestling bit. That's my 'proof' behind my theory. Now answer me this: What happends more in the MMA sport. KO: Knock out by kick or punch, or TKO Knock out by armbar/choke, etc. The answer is simply that TKO just happens Way more often.
So you claim that a judoka can't hug a kung fu master, because he'll get KO'd? Show me evidence!
The two arts are different, how the hell the title can be Kung fu vs Tae kwon do if this 2 guys are always body vs body and the Kung fu and Tae Kwon Do doesnt let u come near ? lol
As a tae kwon do practitioner with some ring experience, I'd have to say grappling styles are very effective. The most important aspect of a martial arts choice is what works for you! Every well trained martial artist I have ever known had the advantage in a street fight.
saintedfire87, I used to be like you. I was practically dying inside for my black belt. Then I got it... and I felt awesome. I can't tell you how proud I was. Then came sparring practice... a red belt kicked my ass. The belt is a representation of how long you've been doing this, and you should be proud of your belt. But in the martial arts world, the most important thing is effort. You don't have to work to get a black belt, but you do to earn a black belt.
That's a sad truth. Now a days, you can't rely oon sensei for your training. You can only have him show you the techniques and you have to worry about training yourself. Worst part is the invention of "Personal Injury Lawsuit" thanks to that, senseis can't push their students like they need to...
Why do so many retards use the whole "gang up" or "his friends will come kick you while your down!" argument against grappling in street fighting. That's quite possibly the dumbest argument ever. Sure it's not a good idea to grapple if facing multiple attackers, but then again you're not in a much better position standing up with them anyway, except for the fact that you can possibly escape. Grappling is very useful in any type of combat scenario
that if its taught in a traditional martial art, it has a purpose if you watch people who spar - they are trained fighters and even then jumpin spinnin kciks and all the rest do work, apply that to some in the street who cant fight, as long as your good enuogh and you can pull it off, if u suck tho then best stick wot u know! Im not a fan of submissions, i respect them, but it only works in a 1 on 1 scenario....rarely applys to street fights these days...Love martial arts......Hate polotics!
That's a lie. Almost 80% of all fights end up on the ground, especially a street fight. So when you get in that situation a simple choke would subdue. Not to mention a quick armbar. Seriously anyone with some type of athletic could pull off a choke with a LITTLE training. Not hard. I guarantee, I could pull of whatever submission I would want to in any street fight. I already have in several. Chokes are mans best friend.
I would agree that going for a lengthy submission when you are facing many opponents is a bad idea but a quick arm-bar that can break someones arm in a matter of 2 seconds can be very useful. Also its not the idea to try to take your opponents to the ground but they WILL try to bring you down so they can gang up on you, and its very important to be able to fight from this position.
fuck off. in a real fight, you can stick grappling attacks and submissions in your ASS. there are needed KICKS and PUNCHES. I have been in a street fight and i have beaten up a jiu-jitsu guy. i make karate since 3 years, and there was no problem for me. when he tried to grapple, i kicked him on his face and he was K.O. just 1 punch. in a real fight, without rules, grappling SUCKS.
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Between all of the idiots I've ever argued with on Youtube, you probably make number one. You're a complete moron and I call BS on your so called street fight story. I can tell just from the way talk that you...
A. Never have been in a real fight before in your life
B. Practice no real martial arts
or...
C. Practice at a horrible dojo that instills even worse beliefs that give silly little fantasy land residents such as yourself false beliefs that they can defend themselves on the street.
if bruce was to go in there hed of had extensive grappling skills already wre as this guy thought he was gonna throw fast punch and win i dont work that way sorry for going on i love bruce lee and all his teachings but he wasnt the be all and end all he was just the first to mix conditioning with the arts and that was why he was so great if your into martial arts i recommend tao of jeet kune do a real mind opener
you are all talking like you actually understand bruces writings jkd was not about defining any sort of style i was about what worked regardless of style it states from close friends that if anything he resented the name because it was defining what he did theres so many people who claim to be teaching jkd when really its just a mixture of maybe a few arts like the early ufc maybe 2or 3 theres a guy who claims to be representing jkd then he gets dominated by royce ithink it was wen we all know
Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do is not a mixture of martial arts. JKD is basically Wing Chun & Boxing. He modified Wing Chun to combine it with Boxing. He never believed in high kicks in a real fight. Only in movies for show. If you look at his JKD books and video, all his kicks are below the waist. JKD may have a mixture of martial arts now but this is after Bruce Lee's death. Wing Chun kicks are all below the waist. He still uses the Wing Chun straight punches. Boxing fighting stances.
I have taken JKD from a student of Bruce Lee. Yes, Bruce Lee did learn other martial arts but the blocks and kicks he used were from Wing Chun. The punches were a combination of Wing Chun and Boxing. The footwork is from Boxing also. JKD has changed a lot over the many years since Bruce Lee died so I do believe their is more mixture of Martial Arts in it. I was just stating what I have learned from my instructor who learned it personally from Bruce Lee himself.
You are part right...Jeet Kune Do may have a foundation of gung fu(the chinese call it this) but, Bruce took techniques from several martial arts, to include boxing, and came up with his system.
taekwondo is a MODERN art formed from the ancient art Taekkyun, which did indeed form from chinese martial arts. However, looking at the two today where Taekwondo can produce extremely fast and snappy triple kicks whereas kung fu focuses on graceful arcs makes them hard to compare.
I don't think either is better to be honest, its more of the person who is fighting and how they go about fighting. any fighting style can win. depends how you use it to find you opponents weakness. whoever is most disciplined will win in my opinion.
Actually, I think it has much to do with what you take from any discipline. If a Tae Kwon Do or Savate practitioner over-emphasizes their feet it will turn to detrimental weakness.
However using kicks also brings you off balance and requires greater control. Both arms and legs have their strenghts and weaknesses as does every other part of the body.
it's wrong in the first place to try to have tkd compared with other martial arts cause i consider tkd a sports. if you want ultimate martial art, koreans got something called teukgongmuesool. it's designed to kill people, not play around with the opponent.
when tkd is done it's a sport. when it's LIVED it's an art, like ALL OTHER MARTIAL ARTS. TKD isn't about killing people, it's literally the WAY of hand and foot. It's truly mental, and the true masters of it know that it isn't about killing people or being the best, it's about achieving inner peace with yourself. The physical effects just come from when it actually NEEDS to be used to kill, in a war, in an unbalanced life or death situation. that is the only time when it MAY be necessary to kill
yea i totally agree. its about if the persons a good fighter or a poser piece of shit. and all people talking about which martial art is better are all weakass posers.
Finally, have YOU studied or know anything about TKD whatsoever? So far all you have been saying is usual spiritual jargon that could come from any number of mcdojos, who usually use such bs to cover up the fact that they can't fight. by the way "ka" is used in Japanese terminology for Japanese martial arts (ie. Karateka, Judoka) TKD is Korean, it's not TKDka.
Oh really... As far as i know, Korean is a mix of Chinese and Japanese language. If Kuen Sabumnim Young Kook Kim uses the term "tae kwon do ka" I'm not arguing about it being right or wrong lol
I'm also not putting anything against Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Chow Yun Fat (Seriously wtf? He doesn't even do Wushu.), or Tony Jaa. They're great actors and I have no doubt that they could probably handle themselves given the occasion, but they're not fighters and definitely not able to defeat professional or even amateur fighters with ease like most uneducated people think.
To that fucking fool aaron2pruitt, Jackie Chan and Jet Li have admitted that they are not fighters and what they do is performance. They didn't get hired for being good martial artists, they got hired for being good showmen. Bruce Lee wasn't hired because he was a high caliber martial artist, it was because he could put on a good show. Real martial arts isn't appealing to the cameras eye, which is why you won't see many real martial artists acting, unless they have experience in stunt fighting.
And to add on to my comment, you're a complete and total fucking idiot. Your argument with sport vs street is not only old, but has been debunked many times. First of all, any of the people you named would not be able to do shit to an MMA fighter, or any actual martial artist who trains to be able to fight at least on a somewhat competent level (which should be everyone regardless of whether they fight or not). In short: Sport fighters actually spar and test techniques, most others don't.
no it's a movie. they're posting on youtube under various martial art vs. martial art names so that people will see it and buy it rent it or whatever. It's an MMA movie i think.
For all those Kick Boxing fighters, hating the TKD fighters thinking they are better, just search on youtube " Lukasz Jurkowski " and you´ll see a TKD guy kicking the shit out of kick boxing guys.
Every martial art has his strong and week points, only a stupid will compare and belive his art is better. It´s not the art, it´s the Person ( fighter )that counts.
Except, that TKD has WAY too many weak points compared to kickboxing or muay thai. Yeah, sure you can take a black belt TKD fighter and put him against a kickboxer who trained for 3 months and say he beat him up.
Well, only if you train the " weak way " you will have those " weak points " you´re talking about. In WTF ( no heand to the head ) if you´ll only train for Competitions, you will sure be weak against a Kickboxing fighter using his heands to the head, but in ITF it´s just another story ( have another looke on Juras ;) ) .
I don´t say WTF is not that gut, I just say if you train only with the feets for competitions, that is crap and will LIMIT you in a real fight. Combine TKD with Jiu Jitsu ;)
by the way.. my TKD instructor (ITF of course) won three times Arena of Gladiators.. it's MMA competetion in my country it was awesome to see him kickin asses other guys! he's my idol :D :P
There is a difference between being able to kick some random punks ass and having the ability to duke it out with a professional fighter. As a fighter goes past his prime he has to train even harder in order to keep up with the competition. I'm not saying Bruce Lee wouldn't have competed, I'm just saying that he probably would have been too old to fight as well as used to or even to old to care about competing.
Some of the fastest reactions??? THE fastest reactions, a trained TKD master reacts almost 2/3 times faster than any other martial art. Each art has its strengths and weaknesses so its kindda useless to go on the internet and start insulting some of them. And for all those TKD haters (generally kickboxers who think they are pretty cool) it is NOT and I repeat NOT a ringsport from origin. It's designed to fight on the streets and the technigues that give it its strengths are kindda forbidden so..
LMFAO! Using bs Fight Science facts eh? Believe everything you hear on tv? I have nothing really against TKD, except for stupid comments such as yours about "forbidden techniques." TKD's strengths lie in it's lighting fast kick combinations, not some goofy ass "forbidden techniques" that are supposed to win fights magically.
Lol, your ignorance amuses me. Do you really believe what you see in the ring is what we learn for out on the streets? Don't think so.
I'd wanna see you and your big words beat the crap out of a trained Tae Kwon Hapkido fighter in a REAL streetfight, you will get taken out so fast you won't even see it, with a bit of bad luck you'll even die. Believe whatever you want, but that's the fact.
Lmao, speak for yourself. The ignorance you're portraying with a goofy ass comment is far more amusing. I never once put down a REAL TKD or HKD "fighter." In fact, the ones who actually fight and spar would agree with me totally. In order to be functional in a "real" street fight, it takes a lot more than some retarded ass eye gouges, groin kicks, and whatever other goofy ass "secret techniques." So you're just as naive and dumb as all the others who believe that crap and that's the fact.
Who said anything about eye gouges, groin kicks and other "secret" techniques. You obviously have NO knowledge of TKD AT ALL!!!
I'm talking about hand to hand combat/disarm/disble techniques. Next time do your homework before you start to yell all kinds of bullcrap. Maybe the only kind of martial art you know are the ones here in the west and those OBVIOUSLY lack the combat aspect.
You really are an idiot. Western martial arts lack the combat aspect? 9 to 1 Western martial arts will own the fuck out of other martial arts in fights for the very basic fact that they spar and test their techniques under pressure. Western Boxings hand techniques have been incorporated into almost every style of martial arts to supplement hand techniques. Ever heard of a jab, cross, uppercut? Guess where it came from.
What combat/disarm techniques are you talking about? The ones that are so precise that they require the finest of motor skills, which if you know anything about combat, pretty much go out the window in a fight, especially if you don't spar or train under pressure. Or perhaps you're talking about the impractical ones that would leave you so wide open to get knocked the fuck out that it wouldn't even matter. Maybe you should do some homework and look up a few fights of HKD and TKD vs other arts.
ROFL, you have SO much left to learn about martial arts my friend! Youre just guessing and throwing in random tactic-talk that doesnt have anything to do with combat, I mean, jabs, uppercuts WTF!!! ever heard of a whip motion? maybe jointlocks and grappling techniques? Abusing pressure points? I guess not! cuz the very moment you are about to perform your jab, your eyes and body motion tell me EXACTLY when you will throw it, so I will always catch you in a very painfull parry-lock or strike.
With each rebuttal you get stupider and stupider. Random tactic talk? As opposed to spouting incoherent bs such as "ZOMG WHIP MOTION!" or my personal favorite "PAINFULL PARRY-LOCK!" seriously...what the fuck is a parry-lock? I believe the correct term is trapping. Why don't you actually try backing up what you're saying instead of just trying (and failing miserably) at trying to prove you know more about martial arts.
In all honesty I admit I dont know the English terms but you can at least act a little less childish. Fact is that you are the one that started out making Tae Kwon Do rediculous, because your government has forbidden certain techniques to be tought!
Thing is, you don't know TKD, so why are you making any comments on it in the first place?!
And if you know so much about all kind of martial arts, why don't ye just admit that boxing/kickboxing is just not designed for the streets
It is and will always be a ringsport (and offcourse you can defend yourself against a moron out there trying to hurt you) But not with the attitude you are showing in the first place, and especially not against a trained Tae Kwon Do ka. There is more to TKD than the flashy kicks (you should definetely know that!) And it's strength lies in controlling your mind and technique rather then strength and aggression and most important is to always AVOID a fight.
"ROFL, you have SO much left to learn about martial arts my friend!"
"Next time do your homework before you start to yell all kinds of bullcrap. Maybe the only kind of martial art you know are the ones here in the west and those OBVIOUSLY lack the combat aspect."
and you're saying I'm being childish? And where the hell did I start making TKD out to be ridiculous? If I remember correctly I said I have nothing against TKD. In fact it has plenty of good points.
Also, where the hell are you getting your facts from? "because your government has forbidden certain techniques to be tought!" That is probably the single most ignorant and retarded comment I have ever seen on Youtube regarding martial arts so far and I have seen a lot. Yes, the American government must be restricted the oh so deadly techniques of TKD! :O I also took two years of Songham TKD and have known many practitioners from both ITF and WTF so I believe that gives me right to comment.
It's apparent that Kickboxing/Boxing isn't made for the street. It's the training methods that separate them from other arts and allows their practitioners to be much more prepared to deal with a high stress situation. Technique, drilling, full contact continuous sparring, and conditioning. These are the keys to performing well both in the street and in the ring. Every good martial art school that is serious about self defense will incorporate those elements into their regimen.
Elaborating on my point, many martial arts schools incorporate few or none of these elements at all. Doing so, they give their students a false sense of security. They go around thinking they can defeat opponents in one hit or just poke someone in the eye to subdue them. In reality, when the shit hits the fan, they will get hurt badly or even killed due to them being under prepared. The average joe in the street isn't that tough, but his street skills overshadows the inexperienced.
You started out TKD relies on kicks (not true at all) and joking and making fun about it's techniques, I find that quite insulting.
Also, the origin of the forbidden techniques lies in the Tae Kyon aspect of Tae Kwon Do. Why do you think you don't see (m)any Tae Kyon schools out here, because it's created with a single target: to kill Thats where TKD's roots lie
LMAO! Wtf? Taekyon is practiced by the majority as just a celebration of culture with little to no martial value. Even those who do practice for martial reasons don't claim to have any kind of "deadly" techniques which, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but TKD has none. "Deadly techniques" are a silly phrase coined by partial artists who hide behind their words and possess no fighting ability.
i definately saw judo grabs and throws in there
CadePDrumstiX18 7 months ago
Kung Fu masteres never join competitions or tournaments... so please re-edit the title.
We2OwnAll 10 months ago
ai tem so jiujitsu capoeira e taekwondo
kkmm41 1 year ago
hjtg
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picanhalacarte 1 year ago
is this song on your ipod? ._. its so horrible
sskittl3z 1 year ago
what do you thing what is better tae kwon do or kung fu??
Marga383 1 year ago
look the door of 1:10 "TAEKWONDO" and look in frot of the trainer jiu jutsu
999MiguellicA666 1 year ago
kungfu beats taekwondo, teakwondo beats judo and judo beats kungfu
88pie88 1 year ago
@88pie88 how could you say that? Id think judo can beat kung fu.
cuakevinlex 1 year ago
@cuakevinlex judo? seriously kung fu and karate drive but using the opponents strength against him but judo is best facing a unbalanced opponent think about that.
MrTHEBEUGEL 1 year ago
@MrTHEBEUGEL I meant kung fu can beat judo sorry haha.. idl judo
cuakevinlex 1 year ago
@cuakevinlex Kung Fu and Taekwondo can't grapple. A fight without a referee breaking up when the fighters hug is (almost) always won by the style that knows how to grapple.
How do you expect to do a tornado kick when a Judoka is hugging you? Just saying.
Hoekzema 1 year ago
@Hoekzema And how do you expect to take someone to the ground and put them in an arm bar, when they're kicking you in the face? It goes both ways . . . I don't think either art is better than the other, both are useful.
SierraCrane 1 year ago
@Hoekzema
lol Judo.....
Take a Judo master vs a Kung Fu master, then we see if the Judoka handle to hug the Kung (:
LittleRonny90 1 year ago
@LittleRonny90 Just watch ANY MMA match that's out there. as soon as there are (almost) no rules the fight will always takes place on the ground after a grappling wrestling bit. That's my 'proof' behind my theory. Now answer me this: What happends more in the MMA sport. KO: Knock out by kick or punch, or TKO Knock out by armbar/choke, etc. The answer is simply that TKO just happens Way more often.
So you claim that a judoka can't hug a kung fu master, because he'll get KO'd? Show me evidence!
Hoekzema 1 year ago
@Hoekzema
Well, u know Masters of Kung almost never join turnaments with no rules cuz they can't use all of their moves right ? like Tae kwon do masters
Well u right TKO happens more often but not for sure from judoka's, but almost 90% from The jujitsu masters..
ask ur master if he fought a Kung Fu master, he'll answer u ;)
LittleRonny90 1 year ago
Sambo and Shotokan Ftw?
w10438 1 year ago
okay sorry that would be disrespectful, Tang Soo Do teaches you more compared to Tae Kwan Do
didn't mean to disrespect
Draco04 2 years ago
depends on the teacher and the student.
bkcpisme 1 year ago
@Draco04 i do tang soo do
and yes i agree that it does teach more
NicaKrnKid 1 year ago
lol tae kwan do is like a game compared to tang soo do
Draco04 2 years ago
ya that's why i kick tang soo do's ass last time when they invited me to their tournament? lol tang soo do is a fuckin joke
backatchalol 2 years ago
lol your funny
Draco04 2 years ago
how so?
backatchalol 2 years ago
you don't kick tang soo do's ass. tang soo do is not a person. you kick the ass of someone who does tang soo do. very important distinction.
bkcpisme 1 year ago
wtf is tang soo do
SeAn98x 2 years ago
TAE KWON DO BEATS ALL
b3rk95 2 years ago
@b3rk95 YOU MUST BE BLIND THEN.
MrGamalier 2 years ago
assholes
TheLibertard 2 years ago
is dat movie oout or wat?
IIVI0RTAL 2 years ago
nice video
Clondeamor 2 years ago
THIS IS JIU JITSU
maico90 2 years ago
Brazillian Jui Jitzu Kicks ass
DNAProductions99 2 years ago
No Japanese Jiu Jitsu Owns
cementium 2 years ago
NO KUNG FU.... jiu jistu!!!!! Dreamer.... :s
robertvoice 2 years ago
nice i liked both.
lovenarutoshow 2 years ago
i study with my instructor and he pushes me to the edge of things but he made me sign a waiver
asktiny 2 years ago
that was good
Eilla53 2 years ago
aqweonao es jiu jistu no kung fu
alex09031992 2 years ago 3
Thats not a Kung Fu... It`s Jiu Jitsu and Taekwondo... I`ve been learning Judo for about 1,5 year...
Gakushi93 2 years ago 6
@Gakushi93
The two arts are different, how the hell the title can be Kung fu vs Tae kwon do if this 2 guys are always body vs body and the Kung fu and Tae Kwon Do doesnt let u come near ? lol
LittleRonny90 1 year ago
dove lo vedi il kung fu?
cafynothHACK 2 years ago
damn....youtube should have slo mode...
doggsaredead 2 years ago
perfect
multikungfu 2 years ago
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karmakulawannabe 2 years ago
As a tae kwon do practitioner with some ring experience, I'd have to say grappling styles are very effective. The most important aspect of a martial arts choice is what works for you! Every well trained martial artist I have ever known had the advantage in a street fight.
levity93 2 years ago
I'm a red belt in TAE KWON DO! :) I can't wait till I hit black
saintdefire87 2 years ago
saintedfire87, I used to be like you. I was practically dying inside for my black belt. Then I got it... and I felt awesome. I can't tell you how proud I was. Then came sparring practice... a red belt kicked my ass. The belt is a representation of how long you've been doing this, and you should be proud of your belt. But in the martial arts world, the most important thing is effort. You don't have to work to get a black belt, but you do to earn a black belt.
Also, I later beat the red belt.
superlardbucket 2 years ago 2
at many martial arts training facilities sadly you can just pay your sensai and he will give you a black belt
BALJIT147 2 years ago
That's a sad truth. Now a days, you can't rely oon sensei for your training. You can only have him show you the techniques and you have to worry about training yourself. Worst part is the invention of "Personal Injury Lawsuit" thanks to that, senseis can't push their students like they need to...
superlardbucket 2 years ago
I have a canvas belt...3.99$, JCPenny..lol..From the Karate Kid
scottiev85 2 years ago
did you get a black belt in taekwondo? Or something else? I have one as well in taekwondo.
GlimmerBmakeup 1 year ago
what is the music
rickonos 2 years ago
queen - we will rock you
rso 2 years ago
not rly.. its a remix ô.o
Cornerless 2 years ago
Who did the remix?
superlardbucket 2 years ago
there is no kungfu in i have seen the movie its a good movie but there isonly jiu-jitsu and taekwondo in
gammela1 2 years ago
A well trained fighter strikes faster than the time you have to perform a reflex.
Basically, the strike will land before any grapple move. Plus the time you grapple an opponent, he got all the time he needs to land a strike.
Well trained or skilled strikers will need one strike to perform a KO.
Hyrage 2 years ago
Apparently every street fight in existence must involve multiple opponents as well...
CRDFightClub 2 years ago
Why do so many retards use the whole "gang up" or "his friends will come kick you while your down!" argument against grappling in street fighting. That's quite possibly the dumbest argument ever. Sure it's not a good idea to grapple if facing multiple attackers, but then again you're not in a much better position standing up with them anyway, except for the fact that you can possibly escape. Grappling is very useful in any type of combat scenario
CRDFightClub 2 years ago
kung fu is like the worlds best fighting style i do kickboxing boxing tai chi chuan jujitsu mixed martial arts and learned otha shit
badballybro 2 years ago
that if its taught in a traditional martial art, it has a purpose if you watch people who spar - they are trained fighters and even then jumpin spinnin kciks and all the rest do work, apply that to some in the street who cant fight, as long as your good enuogh and you can pull it off, if u suck tho then best stick wot u know! Im not a fan of submissions, i respect them, but it only works in a 1 on 1 scenario....rarely applys to street fights these days...Love martial arts......Hate polotics!
Alex4124124 3 years ago
That's a lie. Almost 80% of all fights end up on the ground, especially a street fight. So when you get in that situation a simple choke would subdue. Not to mention a quick armbar. Seriously anyone with some type of athletic could pull off a choke with a LITTLE training. Not hard. I guarantee, I could pull of whatever submission I would want to in any street fight. I already have in several. Chokes are mans best friend.
xInstincttX 3 years ago 2
I would agree that going for a lengthy submission when you are facing many opponents is a bad idea but a quick arm-bar that can break someones arm in a matter of 2 seconds can be very useful. Also its not the idea to try to take your opponents to the ground but they WILL try to bring you down so they can gang up on you, and its very important to be able to fight from this position.
NixeonDead 2 years ago
??
A real fight does require 2-3 strikes and it's over... forget the submission... no time for that, it's not UFC...
Hyrage 2 years ago
That's a really untrue generalization. Apparently you've never been in a "real fight."
CRDFightClub 2 years ago
fuck off. in a real fight, you can stick grappling attacks and submissions in your ASS. there are needed KICKS and PUNCHES. I have been in a street fight and i have beaten up a jiu-jitsu guy. i make karate since 3 years, and there was no problem for me. when he tried to grapple, i kicked him on his face and he was K.O. just 1 punch. in a real fight, without rules, grappling SUCKS.
Lulatsch24 2 years ago
FUCK grapplers .. pussy ass cock to cock fighting .. go rent gay porn stay out of the rings ... this fag movie goes good with the band, another bunch of fags .. enjoy
AnarchyRising 2 years ago
So you kicked him in his face and he was knocked out, then you go on to say just one punch. So what did you do, kick him or punch him?
bittergl0w 2 years ago
Between all of the idiots I've ever argued with on Youtube, you probably make number one. You're a complete moron and I call BS on your so called street fight story. I can tell just from the way talk that you...
A. Never have been in a real fight before in your life
B. Practice no real martial arts
or...
C. Practice at a horrible dojo that instills even worse beliefs that give silly little fantasy land residents such as yourself false beliefs that they can defend themselves on the street.
CRDFightClub 2 years ago
wait what??? u kicked him in his face and he got K.O in one punch???lolz
kerby2og 2 years ago
the only practical thing i see is that guy in the gray punching and kicking normal style..and the bjj stuff
foodib115 3 years ago
if bruce was to go in there hed of had extensive grappling skills already wre as this guy thought he was gonna throw fast punch and win i dont work that way sorry for going on i love bruce lee and all his teachings but he wasnt the be all and end all he was just the first to mix conditioning with the arts and that was why he was so great if your into martial arts i recommend tao of jeet kune do a real mind opener
lukehoward225 3 years ago
you are all talking like you actually understand bruces writings jkd was not about defining any sort of style i was about what worked regardless of style it states from close friends that if anything he resented the name because it was defining what he did theres so many people who claim to be teaching jkd when really its just a mixture of maybe a few arts like the early ufc maybe 2or 3 theres a guy who claims to be representing jkd then he gets dominated by royce ithink it was wen we all know
lukehoward225 3 years ago
Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do is not a mixture of martial arts. JKD is basically Wing Chun & Boxing. He modified Wing Chun to combine it with Boxing. He never believed in high kicks in a real fight. Only in movies for show. If you look at his JKD books and video, all his kicks are below the waist. JKD may have a mixture of martial arts now but this is after Bruce Lee's death. Wing Chun kicks are all below the waist. He still uses the Wing Chun straight punches. Boxing fighting stances.
gemstone8888 3 years ago
remeber that jeet kune do is a concept, please study more before writing something with JKD
dragonvalor9991 3 years ago
I have taken JKD from a student of Bruce Lee. Yes, Bruce Lee did learn other martial arts but the blocks and kicks he used were from Wing Chun. The punches were a combination of Wing Chun and Boxing. The footwork is from Boxing also. JKD has changed a lot over the many years since Bruce Lee died so I do believe their is more mixture of Martial Arts in it. I was just stating what I have learned from my instructor who learned it personally from Bruce Lee himself.
gemstone8888 3 years ago
Some of Lee's techniques also come from fencing.
sifujim210 3 years ago
Dude. Screw Kung Fu and TKD, Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do ALL THE WAY! FTW!
iStoleYourPC 3 years ago
you're a retard, Jeet Kune Do is Kung Fu
Zer0zUnLtd 3 years ago
You are part right...Jeet Kune Do may have a foundation of gung fu(the chinese call it this) but, Bruce took techniques from several martial arts, to include boxing, and came up with his system.
sifujim210 3 years ago
the foundation is mostly from wing chun
Zer0zUnLtd 3 years ago
We are both correct sir, wing chun kung fu is the entire system name.
sifujim210 3 years ago
cool
speedproductions797 3 years ago
bickdaddy
taekwondo is a MODERN art formed from the ancient art Taekkyun, which did indeed form from chinese martial arts. However, looking at the two today where Taekwondo can produce extremely fast and snappy triple kicks whereas kung fu focuses on graceful arcs makes them hard to compare.
Simonyboy 3 years ago
where was the kungfu? i seen tkd, bjj and gymnastics
mgbrawl 3 years ago
I don't think either is better to be honest, its more of the person who is fighting and how they go about fighting. any fighting style can win. depends how you use it to find you opponents weakness. whoever is most disciplined will win in my opinion.
DemonMugen 3 years ago 10
Actually, I think it has much to do with what you take from any discipline. If a Tae Kwon Do or Savate practitioner over-emphasizes their feet it will turn to detrimental weakness.
JohnnyV83 3 years ago
on the other hand, Tae Kwon Do and Savate can teach how to gain power, control, and versatility from the feet.
I just don't see the point in placing as much emphasis on kicks as those styles do.
JohnnyV83 3 years ago
you don't see the point of emphasis on kicks? have you ever noticed that your legs are bigger and stronger then your arms?
tuman829 3 years ago
yeah bro, legs are the strongest weapons of the human body.
bqureshi390 3 years ago
However using kicks also brings you off balance and requires greater control. Both arms and legs have their strenghts and weaknesses as does every other part of the body.
CivilianZero 3 years ago
Agreed, different body parts are more effective than others in different situations.
GavNugent1 3 years ago
@DemonMugen true true and it also depends on the master who teaches, a good master means a good student
guns1312 1 year ago
CRDFightclub you are right on the money with your comments.
carljf1 3 years ago
it's wrong in the first place to try to have tkd compared with other martial arts cause i consider tkd a sports. if you want ultimate martial art, koreans got something called teukgongmuesool. it's designed to kill people, not play around with the opponent.
democracyplease 3 years ago
when tkd is done it's a sport. when it's LIVED it's an art, like ALL OTHER MARTIAL ARTS. TKD isn't about killing people, it's literally the WAY of hand and foot. It's truly mental, and the true masters of it know that it isn't about killing people or being the best, it's about achieving inner peace with yourself. The physical effects just come from when it actually NEEDS to be used to kill, in a war, in an unbalanced life or death situation. that is the only time when it MAY be necessary to kill
Hoboiar 3 years ago
love this
ZorroTomas94 3 years ago
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ hahHAHAHAHAHA lol mennoace i am korean and have been learning japanese for 4 years now and korean doesnt come from japanese
CRDFightClub is right listen to him.
xeqtar 3 years ago
what bruce lee once said its not the martial arts its the person. you guys cant say that one martial art is better then the other.
gmfk12lk 3 years ago
yea i totally agree. its about if the persons a good fighter or a poser piece of shit. and all people talking about which martial art is better are all weakass posers.
xsilentrainx 3 years ago 2
Finally, have YOU studied or know anything about TKD whatsoever? So far all you have been saying is usual spiritual jargon that could come from any number of mcdojos, who usually use such bs to cover up the fact that they can't fight. by the way "ka" is used in Japanese terminology for Japanese martial arts (ie. Karateka, Judoka) TKD is Korean, it's not TKDka.
CRDFightClub 3 years ago
Oh really... As far as i know, Korean is a mix of Chinese and Japanese language. If Kuen Sabumnim Young Kook Kim uses the term "tae kwon do ka" I'm not arguing about it being right or wrong lol
mennoace 3 years ago
I totally agree with all your comments, there are a lot of predenders out there.
carljf1 3 years ago
I'm also not putting anything against Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Chow Yun Fat (Seriously wtf? He doesn't even do Wushu.), or Tony Jaa. They're great actors and I have no doubt that they could probably handle themselves given the occasion, but they're not fighters and definitely not able to defeat professional or even amateur fighters with ease like most uneducated people think.
CRDFightClub 3 years ago 2
To that fucking fool aaron2pruitt, Jackie Chan and Jet Li have admitted that they are not fighters and what they do is performance. They didn't get hired for being good martial artists, they got hired for being good showmen. Bruce Lee wasn't hired because he was a high caliber martial artist, it was because he could put on a good show. Real martial arts isn't appealing to the cameras eye, which is why you won't see many real martial artists acting, unless they have experience in stunt fighting.
CRDFightClub 3 years ago
And to add on to my comment, you're a complete and total fucking idiot. Your argument with sport vs street is not only old, but has been debunked many times. First of all, any of the people you named would not be able to do shit to an MMA fighter, or any actual martial artist who trains to be able to fight at least on a somewhat competent level (which should be everyone regardless of whether they fight or not). In short: Sport fighters actually spar and test techniques, most others don't.
CRDFightClub 3 years ago
cool clip
eray1980 3 years ago
the name at the song is "Now we are Free"
apss1994 3 years ago
the name of the song??? please!!
is very nice
paulcuart 3 years ago
we will rock you. originaly sung by a old band called queen
aaron2pruitt 3 years ago
nice
heatwave2012 3 years ago
wtf there's no kung fu in this video; its says tkd and jujitsu all over it.
xubermanx 3 years ago
the taekwondo in this trailer looks like for some fucking sissy. they are making taekwondo look gay
Microteck 3 years ago
no it's a movie. they're posting on youtube under various martial art vs. martial art names so that people will see it and buy it rent it or whatever. It's an MMA movie i think.
Lenquo 3 years ago 3
isn't this.. taekwondo ITF vs taekwondo WTF???
666lkg666 3 years ago
where is this kung-fu?? There is only bjj and taekwondo...
kamilklosowicz 3 years ago
which ones doing the taekwondo?
tacrackata 3 years ago
i think the black guy is becuase the other guy is doing arm bars and things like that from juijitsu
lostskatecrew 3 years ago
Kung fu generaly has more submission type techniquez
Jugador149 3 years ago
this should be renamed taekwondo and brazilian jiu jitsu versus MMA, because andre lima is TKD and BJJ master, and he fights against MMA not kung fu
AllMartialArts 3 years ago 5
I did not see one bit of actual Kung-Fu in that video. Not a lot of technique at all. Looked like a bunch of flailing fists to me.
blueslover777 3 years ago 4
what's the name of the band playing??? I liked that version.
gspiegel 3 years ago
AWESOME
Brunojn 3 years ago
what a cool vid! :O
DeadMovieStar0 4 years ago
Hey look If one was better everyone would do that, Its all to do with the person
el252525 4 years ago
I´ve forget, if a style would be better that the other, for example Kickboxing, everybody would do KickBoxing ;)
Regards.
goshawkrst 4 years ago
IT'S NOT THE STYLE IT'S THE PERSON.
WingChung81 4 years ago
Nah, it is the style. ^_^
slamurai 3 years ago
Looke on youtube, ITF vs KickBoxing.
Or have a looke at Serkan Yılmaz, WTF fighter.
It´s not the style, it´s the person that counts.
goshawkrst 4 years ago
Egoic matter
OmarLoud 4 years ago
For all those Kick Boxing fighters, hating the TKD fighters thinking they are better, just search on youtube " Lukasz Jurkowski " and you´ll see a TKD guy kicking the shit out of kick boxing guys.
Every martial art has his strong and week points, only a stupid will compare and belive his art is better. It´s not the art, it´s the Person ( fighter )that counts.
goshawkrst 4 years ago 6
100%
myfourm 4 years ago
i could not say it better.
Heugun 4 years ago
Except, that TKD has WAY too many weak points compared to kickboxing or muay thai. Yeah, sure you can take a black belt TKD fighter and put him against a kickboxer who trained for 3 months and say he beat him up.
djsonicc 4 years ago
Well, only if you train the " weak way " you will have those " weak points " you´re talking about. In WTF ( no heand to the head ) if you´ll only train for Competitions, you will sure be weak against a Kickboxing fighter using his heands to the head, but in ITF it´s just another story ( have another looke on Juras ;) ) .
I don´t say WTF is not that gut, I just say if you train only with the feets for competitions, that is crap and will LIMIT you in a real fight. Combine TKD with Jiu Jitsu ;)
goshawkrst 4 years ago
yeah ITF for the win!
kokot11 3 years ago 2
by the way.. my TKD instructor (ITF of course) won three times Arena of Gladiators.. it's MMA competetion in my country it was awesome to see him kickin asses other guys! he's my idol :D :P
kokot11 3 years ago
might've been an mma competition, but did he actually go against an mma fighter?
djsonicc 3 years ago
against muay thai fighters, karete fighters, kickbox etc..
kokot11 3 years ago
ITF sucks because ive heard you have to wait the number of your dan to get to the next test
AllMartialArts 3 years ago
i eat tea kwon do people for breakfast
rottentreats98 4 years ago
consider someone like Anderson Silva who's background is in Teakwondo.
carnage123123123 4 years ago
which he never uses....
djsonicc 4 years ago
NICE :D
ZorroTomas94 4 years ago
nice but im not impressed.I saw real fight between 2 wu-shu adepts.That was true awesome.
M3nt0rz 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
The bottom line is even if Bruce Lee were still alive he would most likely be too old to fight in the UFC or any other MMA organization.
CRDFightClub 4 years ago
i dunno, my tae kwon do instructor's father is like 60 some and he could kick pretty much any 22 year olds i know of ass
yYSleevesYy 4 years ago
There is a difference between being able to kick some random punks ass and having the ability to duke it out with a professional fighter. As a fighter goes past his prime he has to train even harder in order to keep up with the competition. I'm not saying Bruce Lee wouldn't have competed, I'm just saying that he probably would have been too old to fight as well as used to or even to old to care about competing.
CRDFightClub 4 years ago
Most Likely
yYSleevesYy 4 years ago
yeah,Believe it or not this guy that was around79 to 80 years old fight like a 30 year old. Its because of so many years of training.
GhettoAndLovingIt 4 years ago
yeah dude my instructor is old to but he is really good and everybody is hating on tae kwon do
lostskatecrew 4 years ago
Y's that? it's known to have some of the strongest strikes and fastest reactions in martial arts.
MeltedStick 4 years ago
Some of the fastest reactions??? THE fastest reactions, a trained TKD master reacts almost 2/3 times faster than any other martial art. Each art has its strengths and weaknesses so its kindda useless to go on the internet and start insulting some of them. And for all those TKD haters (generally kickboxers who think they are pretty cool) it is NOT and I repeat NOT a ringsport from origin. It's designed to fight on the streets and the technigues that give it its strengths are kindda forbidden so..
mennoace 4 years ago
LMFAO! Using bs Fight Science facts eh? Believe everything you hear on tv? I have nothing really against TKD, except for stupid comments such as yours about "forbidden techniques." TKD's strengths lie in it's lighting fast kick combinations, not some goofy ass "forbidden techniques" that are supposed to win fights magically.
CRDFightClub 3 years ago
Lol, your ignorance amuses me. Do you really believe what you see in the ring is what we learn for out on the streets? Don't think so.
I'd wanna see you and your big words beat the crap out of a trained Tae Kwon Hapkido fighter in a REAL streetfight, you will get taken out so fast you won't even see it, with a bit of bad luck you'll even die. Believe whatever you want, but that's the fact.
mennoace 3 years ago
Lmao, speak for yourself. The ignorance you're portraying with a goofy ass comment is far more amusing. I never once put down a REAL TKD or HKD "fighter." In fact, the ones who actually fight and spar would agree with me totally. In order to be functional in a "real" street fight, it takes a lot more than some retarded ass eye gouges, groin kicks, and whatever other goofy ass "secret techniques." So you're just as naive and dumb as all the others who believe that crap and that's the fact.
CRDFightClub 3 years ago
Who said anything about eye gouges, groin kicks and other "secret" techniques. You obviously have NO knowledge of TKD AT ALL!!!
I'm talking about hand to hand combat/disarm/disble techniques. Next time do your homework before you start to yell all kinds of bullcrap. Maybe the only kind of martial art you know are the ones here in the west and those OBVIOUSLY lack the combat aspect.
mennoace 3 years ago
You really are an idiot. Western martial arts lack the combat aspect? 9 to 1 Western martial arts will own the fuck out of other martial arts in fights for the very basic fact that they spar and test their techniques under pressure. Western Boxings hand techniques have been incorporated into almost every style of martial arts to supplement hand techniques. Ever heard of a jab, cross, uppercut? Guess where it came from.
CRDFightClub 3 years ago
What combat/disarm techniques are you talking about? The ones that are so precise that they require the finest of motor skills, which if you know anything about combat, pretty much go out the window in a fight, especially if you don't spar or train under pressure. Or perhaps you're talking about the impractical ones that would leave you so wide open to get knocked the fuck out that it wouldn't even matter. Maybe you should do some homework and look up a few fights of HKD and TKD vs other arts.
CRDFightClub 3 years ago
ROFL, you have SO much left to learn about martial arts my friend! Youre just guessing and throwing in random tactic-talk that doesnt have anything to do with combat, I mean, jabs, uppercuts WTF!!! ever heard of a whip motion? maybe jointlocks and grappling techniques? Abusing pressure points? I guess not! cuz the very moment you are about to perform your jab, your eyes and body motion tell me EXACTLY when you will throw it, so I will always catch you in a very painfull parry-lock or strike.
mennoace 3 years ago
With each rebuttal you get stupider and stupider. Random tactic talk? As opposed to spouting incoherent bs such as "ZOMG WHIP MOTION!" or my personal favorite "PAINFULL PARRY-LOCK!" seriously...what the fuck is a parry-lock? I believe the correct term is trapping. Why don't you actually try backing up what you're saying instead of just trying (and failing miserably) at trying to prove you know more about martial arts.
CRDFightClub 3 years ago
In all honesty I admit I dont know the English terms but you can at least act a little less childish. Fact is that you are the one that started out making Tae Kwon Do rediculous, because your government has forbidden certain techniques to be tought!
Thing is, you don't know TKD, so why are you making any comments on it in the first place?!
And if you know so much about all kind of martial arts, why don't ye just admit that boxing/kickboxing is just not designed for the streets
mennoace 3 years ago
It is and will always be a ringsport (and offcourse you can defend yourself against a moron out there trying to hurt you) But not with the attitude you are showing in the first place, and especially not against a trained Tae Kwon Do ka. There is more to TKD than the flashy kicks (you should definetely know that!) And it's strength lies in controlling your mind and technique rather then strength and aggression and most important is to always AVOID a fight.
mennoace 3 years ago
Act a little less childish?
"ROFL, you have SO much left to learn about martial arts my friend!"
"Next time do your homework before you start to yell all kinds of bullcrap. Maybe the only kind of martial art you know are the ones here in the west and those OBVIOUSLY lack the combat aspect."
and you're saying I'm being childish? And where the hell did I start making TKD out to be ridiculous? If I remember correctly I said I have nothing against TKD. In fact it has plenty of good points.
CRDFightClub 3 years ago
Also, where the hell are you getting your facts from? "because your government has forbidden certain techniques to be tought!" That is probably the single most ignorant and retarded comment I have ever seen on Youtube regarding martial arts so far and I have seen a lot. Yes, the American government must be restricted the oh so deadly techniques of TKD! :O I also took two years of Songham TKD and have known many practitioners from both ITF and WTF so I believe that gives me right to comment.
CRDFightClub 3 years ago
It's apparent that Kickboxing/Boxing isn't made for the street. It's the training methods that separate them from other arts and allows their practitioners to be much more prepared to deal with a high stress situation. Technique, drilling, full contact continuous sparring, and conditioning. These are the keys to performing well both in the street and in the ring. Every good martial art school that is serious about self defense will incorporate those elements into their regimen.
CRDFightClub 3 years ago
Elaborating on my point, many martial arts schools incorporate few or none of these elements at all. Doing so, they give their students a false sense of security. They go around thinking they can defeat opponents in one hit or just poke someone in the eye to subdue them. In reality, when the shit hits the fan, they will get hurt badly or even killed due to them being under prepared. The average joe in the street isn't that tough, but his street skills overshadows the inexperienced.
CRDFightClub 3 years ago
absolutely correct.
levity93 2 years ago
Like I said
You are just trying to avoid the subject here.
You started out TKD relies on kicks (not true at all) and joking and making fun about it's techniques, I find that quite insulting.
Also, the origin of the forbidden techniques lies in the Tae Kyon aspect of Tae Kwon Do. Why do you think you don't see (m)any Tae Kyon schools out here, because it's created with a single target: to kill Thats where TKD's roots lie
mennoace 3 years ago
LMAO! Wtf? Taekyon is practiced by the majority as just a celebration of culture with little to no martial value. Even those who do practice for martial reasons don't claim to have any kind of "deadly" techniques which, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but TKD has none. "Deadly techniques" are a silly phrase coined by partial artists who hide behind their words and possess no fighting ability.
CRDFightClub 3 years ago