Rove: Obama Admin. Handling Flight 253 Suspect in 'Troubling Way'

[blumag88]

Hey thanks karl, but I really don't think your the guy to be criticizing any body about national security!! After all it was during the administration in which you served, that America was attacked!!! Maybe you should explain to the 3000+ families who had loved ones murdered on 9/11, or maybe you should explain to the 1000s of families of soldiers who were killed in Iraq, explain to them why their loved ones were killed for WMDs that didn't exist!!! karl AMERICANS KNOW YOU GOT IT WRONG!!!!!!!

[bloggerfl5486]

KARL ROVE IS NOT CREDITABLE, REPUBLICON BUSH had the Intelligence on the 9-11 Muslim Terrorists, but DID NOTHING ABOUT IT and Thousands of Innocent People Died and OBL is still on the loose! No one died here and that scumbag was apprehended! Thank you President Obama for Keeping us Safe!

[outofbubblegum]

Lying liars lying ! you can't believe half the lies you hear anymore......

Do americans call this news reporting ? ?

Layered up ??? did he really say that ... Like there is something wrong with a man having a Lawyer represent him ?

Yeah ! ok Karl Rove remember you said that lol if and when you get nabbed for something in the future... no Lawyers for you ...lol Now what about "enhanced" interroragation ...lol

[TheReallitycheck]

false flag

he "the terrorist"was escorted on the plane in Amsterdam witneses are reporting

this is to start a war on yemen...whats next

[curtisgtrdaddy]

@TheReallitycheck

he didnt even have a passport!!

[idlertire]

Rove seems to have forgotten about the shoe bomber.they treated him the same way as this guy.what a asshole!

[thelatinodoctrine]

And these are the people that continue to divide people of different races with the we're all Americans, if you look and talk like us doctrine.

[172677]

Well, well........guess how Richard Reid, the shoebomber was treated by the Bushie boys?????

Charged in criminal court, at the Federal level.

No tribunals, no torture, no ranting and raving.....

And, guess what else.....he's serving life without at a max security prison in Illinois.

Can you say HYPOCRITE???????

[pbacker01]

No wonder the NUT'S (rove) wife is divorcing him!!!!

[172677]

Good old P-P-Porky P-P-Pig.....at it again.

Turdblossom at his conspiratorial best....

[jonr7007]

TPM! You didn't get the part where Rove talked about how this is something everyong knows from crime t.v. shows and when he says "imagine if we had given all those japanese in WWII we kept in the southwest a trial". I literally laughed.

[MsBrian57]

Rove, the person in Yemen responsible were released from GITMO in 2007 by the BUSH administration to SAUDI terror rehab center. That is why people urged you have the damn trial and you can convict instead of arbitrary deciding who is guilty or not. Obama needs to SCRAP the entire Bush terror watch list, scrap it all and JUST CREATE ONE LIST.

That one list can be an investigative tool, imagine the person applies for visa, rejected, you can locate the person and conduct an investigation. ONE LIST

[wtfoof]

We need to used "enhanced" interrogation on Rove!

[cryan71]

It appears that Rove and Company released the plotters of this terrorism attempt from Gitmo.

Rove, you have a lot of 'splaining to do!

[7jerryv7]

Not even using torture - I mean enhanced interrogation techniques. We got your number Rove.

[RobertSeattle]

Wonder what Rove will say if this bourgeoisie terrorists starts "singing like a canary" about Al Queda.

[carrierexchange]

enhanced interrogation = torture = USA FTW

[Francebrasil]

Here they come!!!!. Where were they on 9/11 ??? Useless, hypocrites and delusional!!!!

[Big10]

The Constitution was written precisely to avoid the governmental actions that would occur if guys like Rove were in control.

[ubernerd35]

Rove's talking points:

1. Disagree with Obama (regardless of merit)

This piece of shit is responsible for so many deaths around the world, he deserves to be tortured painfully.

[lllraverslll]

oh and i thought this was a legitimate source for news wops ....

[scytheboy]

Not surprising from a man willing to out a CIA agent over politics. At least Fox did a good job calling on his bullshit, oh wait. :P

[FutureStudy]

bomb more of them.

[thinice2k]

Awesome. Carl Rove saying to be "lawyered up" would prevent information from being obtained.

[clinds]

Gotta love the echo chamber on FNC, let alone that they will never, NEVER quit the fear tactics.

You know what Rove, we're alive, and we're safe!

[synapsecracklepop]

making political hay out of national security matters, even to the actual jeopardy of national security, is what the GOP has been doing since Reagan.

Despicable fucking vermin

[Coldkilla9]

Yup, even though the vast majority of people here don't agree with any of this - one can only wonder how that organization is the most watched out of all other networks. People might wanna start thinking about trying to combat the idiots by running for office themselves.

[kelseywall]

How could anyone possibly confuse Fox with a real news station?

[untomatchi]

rove is kind of pig for the trough of imperialism. no doubt that this guy is heavy handed with cross around his neck. Rove, your weight is bringing you down. As an American who appreciates his freedom to recollect- you are a turncoat, and you will be sought after as a trader.

[ferrozm]

fuck rove. maybe we should torture him for lying to the american people about Iraq

[frostwolf1]

So I just woke up, and I'm groggy enough to misread things like this vid's title.

I saw everything in the video title after the colon, and thought "Oh, this sounds a little worrying".

Then I saw the word "Rove" at the front, and i said, "Oh I get it, it's a joke!"

Funny how one word can completely change the meaning of an entire sentence.

[KataVideo]

why do you fear the justice system rove?

[KataVideo]

rove, you're a sack of dog diarrhea.

this guy is an isolated extremist. we've had 6 jets hit by terrorism in the past decade or more. 4 were on 9/11. five was the shoe bomber and and #6 was on christmas day. hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of flights operated in that time completely untouched by terrorism.

al qaida is like a pedophile or a conman, existing to groom the sad, despondent and lonely into doing the unspeakable. the christmas crotch bomber was a rich idiot.

[Superplatanoman]

Maybe too nice to people that might do us harm? That's journalism. Ridiculous

[cineprep]

I guess Rove has been thinking a lot about getting "Lawyered up".

[cineprep]

I can't wait to hear him cry at The Hague.

[MasrawyPasha]

Yes, it is troubling that they didn't go ahead and torture a disillusioned kid

[cineprep]

Do we need more proof that the Republicans are a bunch of chicken shits? THANK GOD Carl Rove was not on that plain wetting his pants and a dutch guy was there instead.

[VeohBlows]

Screw Karl Rove and FOX news, these SOB's are the root cause of this, OOOOO u make me so mad, you pig faced retard.

[marniespeaks]

yeah believe al qadea

the more details come out the more this looks like cia

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

Karl Rove is simply not qualified to talk about the Obama administration. He brought us the worst president in history, he took a perfectly fine country and turned it into shit. Anyone who takes Karl Rove seriously is a fucking idiot who deserves to be enslaved because they are so confused about who is helping them and who is hurting them.

I'm tired of the stupid people in America. I'm really, really fucking tired of them.

[pwl1980]

Bill? Maher?

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

almost...lol

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

Karl Rove, Dick Cheney & George Bush handled the entire United States in a "troubling way"!

I swear it's a fucking joke to constantly hear republicans questioning democrats' judgment about stuff. It's like special ed kids questioning gifted kids-it's ridiculous. Republicans, especially people like Rove-know absolutely nothing about foreign policy, or the economy. All they know how to do is reach out and relate to the stupidest people in this country so they can win/steal elections.

[michigantreaties]

maybe because he was a muslim? We are a muslin nation arent we? The hell with that noise. God Bless The USA. He is a threat to all of us.

[tavadon777]

We are not a christian nation either

[PersonalJesus348]

Al Queda is a name given by our intelligence...

[dafttool]

Turd Blossom has been "all lawyered up" for years now.

[cagedtigersteve]

Somebody please get this guy a copy of the Constitution to read.

Karl Rove is dangerous. He is blind, ignorant, and worshiped by too many on the far right.

[Mrcharliebobo]

@cagedretardsteve- What do you want him to do read it for you!! assclown!!! you're just another insignifiCUNT piece of shit!

[tavadon777]

settle down and actually use reason in ur arguments

[supermanky]

Karl Rove is a jackass.

[motorolarules]

COUGHbullshitCoughcough

[mintvagoo]

Rove would waterboard his mother.

What Rove did to McCain in the 2000 S. C. primary

"Called McCain The Fag Candidate. In South Carolina, Bush supporters circulated church fliers that labeled McCain the fag candidate. Columnist Frank Rich noted that the fliers were distributed even as Bush subtly reinforced that message by indicating he wouldnt hire openly gay people for his administration.

Rove needs to share a cell with Bernie... and get throat fucked in the lunch line.

[motorolarules]

"...his mother." NOW THAT is funny. I am laughing as I try to type!

[MaladaptiveCatalyst]

Why is nearly every other video on TPM TV about Fox News...

i understand it seems they are shining a light or mirror in such a biased "news" organizations face...but I'm quite tired of these videos...I get absolutely nothing from them except more of the same...the Republicans are completely polarizing and take every opportunity to shut down the other side...

i"m unsubscribing to this channel now. there isnt any point of watching anymore videos here.

[p00lman]

I think the point is that you can find real news anywhere.

TPM is showing us the "special" kind of news we can find on Fox.

[motorolarules]

OH man, don't unsub. Through crap at them with a comment if you watch their propaganda... thats what I do. Besides, you must know what the enemy is up too. Keep it fun

[HieiYYH2]

The only place you will see Carl Rove is Fox News and Rush Limbaugh's show. Because no one else is dumb enough to listen to the anti-Christ

[atm94404]

RIght, Karl, torture them. We waterboarded that to the one 9/11 guy who missed his plane for six months and he gave us all that "intel" that Saddam was linked to Al Qaeda and that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Yeah, that worked out real well.

[hnbbs]

So Carl Rove does not want us to follow the Constution of United States. He does not want us to follow the law.

It would also mean that this guy could go free if we fail to treat him in a legal way.

This is a nation of law.

[FutureStudy]

And our law offers different right to enemy combatants. Its true. Look it up. If Obama had classified him as an enemy combatant in a time of war, he could have treated as a prisoner of war.

[hnbbs]

A "prisoner of war" and what NATION is at war with us at this time. Plus we have already had court ruling that question the "enemy combatant" tag. This guy had a visa and was arrested in the United States.

[FutureStudy]

Perhaps we are not at war with a nation, but with a non-state actor. I am certain that the language in the Geneva Convention for the definitions of combatant and non-combatant do not only apply to soldiers in uniform as members of a state. Moreover, considering that the future will have more wars between states and non-state actors such as rebels and terror groups, we should be abel to classify non-state actors that pose a concerted threat to a nation as prisoners of war.

[FutureStudy]

able*. We should have allowed our intelligence units to interrogate him first since he is a terrorist and combatant in the War between the U.S. and Al Qaeda.

[Weaseldog2001]

Is he?

And by what power do you render the US Constitution Null and Void? Are you King?

How do you decide which classes of people the US Constitution does not apply to? and how does one gain such power to overturn the law?

[FutureStudy]

First of all the designation of enemy combatant isn't against the Constitution, which I doubt you have read.

[Weaseldog2001]

Article 6 Applies. Read that. Then be aware that the Geneva Convention is a Treaty.

[Weaseldog2001]

The designation 'Enemy Combatant' isn't a legal.

The Geneva Convention, which the US played a large role in drafting, designates that people captured on the battlefield be designated as Non-Combatants or Prisoners of War.

Even following your argument, then you're saying he was apprehended in a war zone?

[FutureStudy]

That's the problem with terrorists. How do we define their war zone? Perhaps the Geneva Conventions need to be updated to incorporate non-state actors, something the founders of the Convention had not imagined would become an issue.

[Weaseldog2001]

What do you think the founding fathers were?

They and the French volunteers were non-state actors.

There have always been non-state actors.

Every war has non-state actors.

Every rebellion and civil war is made up of non-state actors.

It was non-state actors that drove army after army out of Afghanistan for two thousand years.

We don't need new definitions, we need to quit changing the definition of words to destroy their meaning.

[Weaseldog2001]

You do know also that the colonial militias also fought non-state actors, right? They fought other colonials, and mercenaries fighting for bounties.

[Weaseldog2001]

It's seems strange that so many of us are quick to dismiss the expereince and sacrifices made by the WWII generation, as if they knew nothing of the horrors of war, espionage, betrayal, war crimes, etc...

WWII was full of instances of non-state actors taking roles in the war.

I don't understand why we think we live in such a completely alien world in which it is now necessary to end the justice system and start jailing and torturing people for suspicion.

[kaysandesses]

@Weaseldog2001 "I don't understand why we think we live in such a completely alien world in which it is now necessary to end the justice system and start jailing and torturing people for suspicion."

The wingnuts think that's a great idea because then they could round up all the Papists, misceginists, jooos, mooslums, socialists, commies, hippies, and brown-skinned people in general.

Yeah, I'm being a bit of a smartass, but it's not much of a stretch.

[Weaseldog2001]

It's not much of a stretch at all.

[kaysandesses]

@Weaseldog2001 Unfortunately I must agree with you. There are elements of the wingnut/teabagger wack jobs that would love to don their white hoods or their SS regalia and begin the roundups NOW.

[Weaseldog2001]

This was the world of the Spanish Inquisition. and we can see in tin-pot dictatorships how this works. People are picked up in the middle of the night, tortured, and they turn on their friends and family. In the morning they are found dead in the street. now the authorities have the names of co-conspirators and they go pick up another batch of terrorists.

Is this what you want happening to folks like you and me?

[FutureStudy]

No I want this happening to Al Qaeda or anyone who works to conspire against he U.S.

[Weaseldog2001]

Right, if someone confesses under torture that you're conspiring against the USA, then you should be picked up and tortured, and imprisoned for life without recourse.

You've already expressed disdain for the US Constitution and the rule of law. As an outspoken critic of the US Constitution and the rule of law, shouldn't we have you picked up and tortured? As an enemy of our freedoms, aren't you a terrorist?

[Weaseldog2001]

I fail to see how this will stop suicide attacks.

In this last one, it seems the bomber was a bit slow in the head. He had a friend that got him past security and got him on the flight without a passport or any form of ID.

Who has the authority to book anonymous international flights?

I have one last question. As you're a proponent of torture for fun and revenge, is this an activity you fantasize in engaging in? Would you enjoy raping and torturing children in front of their parents?

[SubmarinerAndroid]

What's troubling is that someone hasn't splattered Rove's pumpkin head yet.

[OutCold9te6]

fix the sound

[pasnell]

Oh scare me.... oh scare me.... so I run under my bed and forget to think..... much less vote...

[maritzasolito]

Rove, fuck you and all the REPUGNANTS!

The party of NO ideas and no can do for the US!

[p00lman]

You're wrong. As Lewis Black once said, the Republicans are a party of BAD ideas.

[maritzasolito]

Rove is an IDIOT just like his boss!!

[wayne388]

Karl Rove wants us to be forever at war so that his military contractor buddies can continue to profiteer.

[maritzasolito]

Rove's is an ass to say the least! What the F was bushie doing for eitht years?

Oh no, torturing!

[Keszler]

im no fan of bush or rove. Im what you a progressive. But in Bush's defense we didn't have another terror atack since 9/11

[2tsaybow]

We're having them now because Cheney and Rove purposely did not create a TSA that works!

They want us to have problems because if we are afraid then they win. Dick Cheney wants us to have a terrorist attack and he has left all these loonies out there so we do. He's just been waiting for it to happen because he knows its going to.

We had the prince our darkness running our government for eight years. And I am not talking about George Bush. Bush left all the work to Cheney and Rove.

[HoudiniZucchini]

@Keszler that's like saying we haven't had a heart attack since the first one, so it's okay to keep eating hamburgers and frenchfries every day for every meal

[Keszler]

no what im saying is its possible that bush worked out to stop the first heart attack.

[HoudiniZucchini]

9/11 was the first heart attack in my metaphor there... which obviously happened...

[Keszler]

okay but another one hasn't happened since the first one, it could be argued that he protected the country

[Weaseldog2001]

Except for that Anthrax thing.

And the sniper shootings in DC...

And the abortion clinic bombings.

And the shoe bomber.

If you forget the terrorist attacks, then there weren't any.

[Keszler]

abortion cllinic bombing doesnt really qualify for a terrorist attack, in the way that 9/11 does. Same for the rest of you "terrorist attacks" The sniper was a serial killer not a terrorist. The shoe bomber was a failure.

[Weaseldog2001]

You really need to start riding Law Enforcement on this. They treated all of these incidents as terrorist attacks.

Next time something happens and the FBI and the media talks about terrorism, you should call the FBI and argue with them about it. They need you.

Think of the money we'd have saved if the Anthrax attacks were handled as a police matter instead of alarming the whole country and employing anti-terrorism task units.

"The shoe bomber was a failure."

The underwear bomber = success?

[Weaseldog2001]

So the underwear bomber isn't really a terrorist, because he was a failure?

Then why are you betraying the US Constitution and the Rule of Law in calling for him to be tortured and held with trial?

What's bringing out your hate for the Law and Democracy in regards to this person?

[grayziehobbes]

@Keszler You are a douche.

[Weaseldog2001]

In Bush's defense, we did have the biggest terrorist attack in our history, on his watch.

Then he said he would not rest until he got Bin Laden. Then went on vacation. Then came back and he didn't worry much about that guy anymore.

[SabuPtolemy]

I'm a peaceful person but I'd volunteer to beat the living shyte out of Turdblossom! What a sniveling cunt.

[KruNae]

I don't believe you're a peaceful person haha. You're just like the rest of us.

[rocketman6464]

rove for president.....fuck all you liberal swine

[doink1422]

what are you smoking and can i have some

[trancewe]

I don't know if I'd want any of that man, sounds like rocketman is on a bad trip.

[3star2nr]

i.e. obeying the constitution is america being weak.

What a POS

[ELowkey7]

LOL Rove wants to cannibalize the guy.

[LarcheOsborne]

Damn that pesky Constitutions. What is all this talk of following the rule of law? Damn those liberals.

[Satire}

[EmpathyWorks]

The first thing anarchists do is make efforts to demean and lessen the respect of law.

I never thought the Republican Party would be akin to anarchists....at least not in my life time.

[DixieDale]

No legitimate news outlet would give the lying dog and "swift-boater" Rove a platform.

This guy is Cheney and Bush's best pal = need I say more.

STFU Rove.

[Mrcharliebobo]

Wow look at all the liberal assclowns posting their liberal bullshit on this vid!!

[scytheboy]

So unsubscribe to the feed. All you've done here is name call. That's all your party ever does these days.

[Mrcharliebobo]

@scytheboy - ROTFFLMFAO!! Are you fucking joking???? every liberal asspuppet posting here is doing the same thing!! assclown!! so shut your cock hole! and get Obamageddons nutz out ya mouth bitch!!!

[scytheboy]

That was almost a tangent thought you expressed, almost. The fact remains you choose to be here.

[shoogie06]

OMG we gave someone rights?!! What are we? America?!! Wait... we are American. Move back to Russia you fascist.

[Mrcharliebobo]

@shoogie06 - Are you a retard?

[shoogie06]

No, I just believe in the American system of Justice and the US Constitution. You know the whole thing about all men being equal and endowed by their creator with inalienable rights. To quote Ben Franklin "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." If they can take rights away from him, they can make up an excuse to take rights away from you. Freedom comes with risks.

[Mrcharliebobo]

@shoogie06 - So from your post I gather you are against Obamageddon for not repealing the homeland security act, but instead furthering its intrusive powers, where they can detain and hold anyone they want for as long as they want without due process, which is the total opposite of everything you have quoted from good old Ben Franklin. How do you assclowns think so completely void of all logic or reality? The American system of justice applies to "Americans"!! not terrorists try to attack us!!!

[hnbbs]

So the "terrorists" that attacked the federal building in OK city should not have had a legal trial here in the United States. You would have had them sent to GitMo?

[Mrcharliebobo]

@hnbbs - Fuck gitmo!! assclown!! Terrorists shouldn't be afforded the same rights we as American citizens have, or use to have under "our" constitution, the liberalcommieassclowns like to ignore!

[Weaseldog2001]

"It's just god damned piece of paper!" - Pres George Bush on the US Constitution.

Here's the part you'd strike out.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

[Mrcharliebobo]

@shoogie06 - What part of that are you to intellectually bankrupt to understand?

[Weaseldog2001]

You argument is, when someone is accused of certain kinds of crimes, then you want to crap on the Constitution and violate it's principles.

I think I understand you perfectly. You do understand that you are arguing for the nullification of the US Constitution and the values for which it stands, right?

What do you call people that oppose the US Constitution, it's values and it's principles as you've done here?

[charlie44441]

"Maybe we're being too nice"......by giving him a lawyer???

If this guy's head shook up and down any harder, it would have come right off it's socket.

[KosmicCitizen]

This guy tried to light his shorts on fire.

Yes, existential threats abound.

[Waranle]

get lost rove suck a dick and die motherfucker.

[alanshanelewis]

@Waranle 2 times

[NatureLegalized]

I see and think PIG or little pig every time this numbnut rears his ugly head - but I really like actual animals...

[bittyrock]

Fuck that Chickenhawk Rove.

[Bakujin619]

Oh Boo Hoo, this administration follows the law.

How sad for the Republicans.

[314day]

'Troubling Way' of thinking.

[voyeurdug]

"Troubling" to Rove & "troubling" to al Qaeda. Perhaps even "troubling" to Fox News. Not particularly troubling to anyone else.

[Philinspaces]

What Rove says and what he means. "Terrorists" = "we lost wah wah wah."

" Lawyered up" = "we lost wah wah wah."

"Dangerous way of handling it" = "we lost wah wah wah." This man is the moral equivalent of a Judas goat. Go away.

[dogstar7]

D'uh! I shoulda know'd it!

It's all Obama's fault!

Yup, jus' that simple.

[MISSBEBEBLUE]

The Turdblossom has spoken!

[MISSBEBEBLUE]

........DO NOT look behind the curtain.

[toddlamp]

Karl Rove should be tried as an enemy combatant.

[trancewe]

How dare this administration follow the Constitution! Just because Bush used the document as toilet paper for 8 years doesn't mean Obama has to do the same.

[junkforkaryn]

karl, the human-sized potato bug, has done more harm to this country because of his having been "lawyered up", so he knows from where he speaks.

[Richardgwm]

Karl Rove is a traitor to America. Karl Rove committed an act of treason during wartime by revealing the identity of an American spy.

Karl Rove must be tried and executed.

GIVE NO QUARTER TO TRAITORS!

[wnnw98]

Bush the Incompetent was complicit in the deaths of 3 thousand Americans on 9/11... I'd say that was pretty troubling.

[integral]

Fox Nooze and Karl Rove, a match made in hell.

[dogstar7]

Exactly

FOX x Rove = BS(2)

[TheMrsSM]

He's in custody. How might he "do us harm?" Oh yes, having lawyers ensure everything is done properly is so dangerous.

No stupid, what is dangerous is if it's not done right and then a conviction gets thrown out because his constitutional rights were violated. Karl Rove may be conniving, but he really is also an idiot.

[p00lman]

Exactly. The whole point of the law is to uphold it and see that the processes are executed to the letter. You can't say, "Well, I don't like THIS guy, so let's make an exception THIS time."