she only learn it to make a good mv for her music~ it's her hard work that counts! sure she cant dance ballet perfectly, but who said she's a ballerina? she's a singer!! STILL i do agree with dancelina1111 it's too risky to do this
omg that Chinese girl can't do a pirouette at all! She have terrible balance,and her muscles are not held tight,and cant turn gracefully. Why is she even in the news? For bad ballet? or Are they promoting Adult beginning ballet classes?
thoug I like Jolin, but yes, I totally agree with you, I don't know why she is doing such stupid thing. I have learnt ballet for 7years, and that is not that easy for any beginners.
I really don't suggest her or anyone to try the Fouetté. Jolin definitely doesn't have the right muscle strength, the power of the pointe and the turn-out. She even wore the wrong shoes. This is too risky, and shouldn't be encouraged.
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It's a terrible shame to copy the style of a japanese hooker. It makes me wonder is this chick losing her originality in music or just want to worship Japanese. Such a shame.
Sad, she doesn't realise she looks more like a Japanese hooker with skinny arms and ribs.
BTW, if you think she's good and tries hard, I guess she should be doing some kind of swallowing firesticks or swords to impress some fans. But that just shows she's like a circus monkey.
well,some lame ppl like u will juz like to write such cheap n lame comment like dis.. u got power to not support her,but u got no power to said something hurt to her. Bitch!
Such an unpolished, poorly managed performance really shows a lack of respect to the professions and to those who are striving for perfection years after years.
well,then u try three month to learn dis,if u can't,then pls stop sent such lame n cheap comment! three month learning for who got no ballet base is very difficult,plus,she is learning the ultimate ballet skill, altough it's not perfect,but still,she had try hard..got it?!
u r so lame, copying japanese? then how come Ayumi is been saying by other ppl that she oso copying other artist? copying style, dance and many other stuff frm some america artist?.tell u, altough i'm a fans of ayumi and jolin, i didn't think copying is a big matter! juz 'some' ppl is being so lame,think tat him/her self is perfect.. No one is perfect! U too.
hahha is the TV station mean or what? purposely showing the professionals right beside Jolin tsai, showing very clearly how ugly her attempts are. Time for her fans to open their eyes real big
she only learn it to make a good mv for her music~ it's her hard work that counts! sure she cant dance ballet perfectly, but who said she's a ballerina? she's a singer!! STILL i do agree with dancelina1111 it's too risky to do this
yumenami13 3 months ago
Actally she is very easy to hurt~she did not push her arch forward,she will twist herself ankle easily~
wingtai0911 6 months ago
其實32圈係好easy ~
wingtai0911 6 months ago
失敗了 還擺一個漂亮的POSE XD 加油 joiln
zxc7391456 6 months ago
o_o!厲害!
kamamification 10 months ago
I like Jolin
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不喜歡就滾
qasdfv55555 1 year ago 3
NG60次還能叫褻瀆?
MV中不是轉出來了
請問褻瀆在哪我真的看不懂
x2036457 1 year ago 5
she is a singer, not a dancer
pianopl8er 2 years ago
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裝模作樣
qqpp9900 2 years ago
吵吵吵!这世界就是因为有你们这些三八老总是爱惹人,或者乱爱批评人!才会世界大乱! 拿你的本事出来才来批评呀!
JAMES5250121 2 years ago
我很認同 就是愛批評, 又不想想自己好不到哪
monkeyfai09 1 year ago 2
她的用心 是我欣賞的地方
tinayang75 2 years ago 7
他沒有舞蹈基礎 他有這樣的成果 支持他的粉絲或是不支持他的 應該為他的努力而要拍手 不是在那吐槽
這麼不看好他的話 你去當藝人看看
你去鞭轉個32圈讓我看看 讓大家知道你多
行...
不會的話 少在那吐槽人家-.-
birken307 2 years ago 4
32轉不是任何人都練的起來的 沒有深厚的古典芭蕾底子簡直是玩命~ 科班生都不一定會做 她是用心還是噱頭我想見仁見智 ~吐槽他的人只是覺得它有點在卸賭表演藝術 我想是吧
orzdancer76 2 years ago 65
@orzdancer76 什麼叫做褻瀆表演藝術?說這種話的人懂藝術?他為了的用力與努力 如果做不到的其實沒資格說他
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很搞笑台湾的新闻,用你们的脑才放出来ok
蔡依林才学两个月,你们有20年的东西来和蔡依林比,还真搞笑
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講那麼多廢話 人家也很努力 不然你去跳跳看...
birken307 2 years ago
我看不懂你是在批評蔡依林還是在幫蔡依林說話
ha854 2 years ago
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I suggest you go GOOGLE JOLIN first. People whose don't understand chinese and even don't know who are she please go enrich your knowledge first before you post a comment here.
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elloojinn 2 years ago
omg that Chinese girl can't do a pirouette at all! She have terrible balance,and her muscles are not held tight,and cant turn gracefully. Why is she even in the news? For bad ballet? or Are they promoting Adult beginning ballet classes?
sheerpink88 2 years ago 5
agree
pianopl8er 2 years ago
bad tecnique
pianopl8er 2 years ago 2
其實她不用勉強自己,知道她很努力了,但那旋轉畢竟是專業及受訓已久的芭蕾舞者才能應付自如,她這樣如果把自己弄傷就不好了!
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pianopl8er 2 years ago
damn, i counted and the white girl make 33 turns total before she stopped. wow.
maihouatina 2 years ago
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蔡依林真的很努力,值得佩服!!!
eugineyee 2 years ago
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你们要学几百年的东西
蔡依林他用2个月就可以了
你们不要用4年来大人家,蔡依林4年也可以更棒更出色,无聊的家伙,不喜欢蔡依林干嘛来这里写多多,回家学你们的芭蕾啦
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she dosnt even know what is ballet!!and she only learn 2 months?THEN SORRY BALLET IS NOT FOR HER!學得快又怎樣?學得快不代表跳得好!還有她學的只是轉而基本動作也不懂!!
pianopl8er 2 years ago
thoug I like Jolin, but yes, I totally agree with you, I don't know why she is doing such stupid thing. I have learnt ballet for 7years, and that is not that easy for any beginners.
seadolphin95 2 years ago 5
I really don't suggest her or anyone to try the Fouetté. Jolin definitely doesn't have the right muscle strength, the power of the pointe and the turn-out. She even wore the wrong shoes. This is too risky, and shouldn't be encouraged.
dancelina1111 2 years ago 48
exactly you need years of training to get that beautiful turn-out and point. and she is not even doing a Piroutte en Pointe.
sheerpink88 2 years ago 8
因為芭蕾其實很多人從小就學
蔡依林沒有芭蕾基礎所以 學起來很吃力
gi1234g 2 years ago 14
y ppl call her'小天后 i thought she is ady a 天后
jiajunewong 2 years ago
good, very hard-working
tlp031102 2 years ago
先不論她芭蕾練的如何
用專業標準來評論她也很不公平
至少在求新求變的不景氣唱片業中
算是很了不起的吧
當然世上很多人努力於自已的工作
目前有看過唱片界歌手像她一樣挑戰極限的嗎?
我並不是想為她說話
而是這些言論對於想努力讓歌迷認同的依林來說 太嚴刻了
沒有人能百分百無缺點
amy061523 2 years ago 9
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但我还是觉得, 如果今天有免费vip票纯粹去看芭蕾比赛或表演, 我宁愿花钱去K歌. 闷透了.
看演唱会或MV, 现在要的都是多方面的艺术. 10% 各不同的呈现, 等于100分. 不是你们那种老土的年代想法, 唱歌就是站在哪里唱完它.
拜托向HIPHOP, 街头或其他舞蹈的道德精神学习. 也难怪超级舞林大道没人敢跳芭蕾,很很恐怖!
kenzoed 2 years ago
公不公平,是看你的努力在哪里. 着也是艺人和普通人的不同点. 你要红, 就让自己的专业红入娱乐圈, 或找个经济人帮你想办法推广你.
kenzoed 2 years ago
我觉得,专业的芭蕾老师, 更不应该觉得这是羞耻. 有多少人会为了看芭蕾而来看表演?
更何况, 有必要那么自私吗? 一个很多人也许没兴趣欣赏的芭蕾, 有艺人来接力, 把芭蕾传出去, 虽然不跳到很好, 但那是免费的.
专业的人, 说自己是老师, 应该懂得如何分辩一个专业人事的想法和幼稚的想法... 我不怎么去看这艺人是怎么努力, 但一文化和商业的角度, 应该感激她.
kenzoed 2 years ago 8
想太多了....如果每一个艺人多学一样才艺,都要100分, 那么世界就没有天才了.
而且,为了一张专辑, 难道要想专业学者练十年, 练到一百分吗? 十年后才发专辑? 这是市场听觉和视觉享受, 而不是为了看学芭蕾而出专辑, 是为了创新才学芭蕾...而至于要不要把一个艺人捧上来, 也不是凭他/她自己说要, 媒体就会配合.
kenzoed 2 years ago 5
讲得很好, 很有道理!
Kremlin77 2 years ago
欲速則不達,小心身體要緊。
hui727 2 years ago 9
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好可憐,不會唱歌只好練特技....
bill210210 2 years ago
哇 那那些自以為會唱歌也不在練舞的不就更可憐 poor you
cari3699 2 years ago
miloice016 2 years ago 7
沒創意
努力有什麼用?
誰不努力?
水泥工也要努力才有錢賺
水泥工有整天誇耀我很辛苦嗎?
lou19790627 2 years ago
如果她是一个舞者。。我非常欣赏她的努力。。
可是作为一个歌手。。我觉得她只是一个唱功不错的漂亮女生。。
没什么值得捧的。。
我也是一个条芭蕾舞的人。。
我知道这个对没学芭蕾的人来说很难。。
可是作为一个歌手需要这样吗?
claire4freedom 2 years ago 7
说的很对!
我也是训练了6年的芭蕾,如今毕业后留校当老师,我深知一个毫无芭蕾基础的人一上来就练fouette是多么荒谬的事,我知道不能以专业的眼光来要求她,但是看到她转的时候连手位都摆不好,心里不是滋味。
芭蕾是阳春白雪,但作为老师,我当然希望芭蕾能够越来越普及,可是我不希望如此急功近利的表演被大肆宣传。
evayip99 2 years ago 9
对啊对啊。。只因为芭蕾难度很高。。
就选它来练,用来作宣传。。
我觉得这样真得很不尊重芭蕾。。
要练black swan 的 fouettes 可不是短时间就能做到的。。
真的希望她把她的努力和毅力放在唱歌上面。。。
claire4freedom 2 years ago 9
i totally agree with you guys, that's what i think as well
jolin一直在尋找突破,希望能給歌迷帶來新的東西
而對舞蹈十分有把握的她,很自然的希望能在舞蹈有所突破,之前的彩帶,鋼管也都做的不錯..不過我還是覺得芭蕾是個失算
就算她的學習能力在怎麼強,我也不覺得她能在短短三個月學的好,頂多就是學學一點皮毛,唬唬不懂芭蕾的外人
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sunyishin 2 years ago
我不懂你為甚麼要已這樣的稱呼開頭。
一,如果我成語用錯,也請你多包涵,你不一定要用白癡的稱呼開頭對我進行人身攻擊
二,我並沒有在貶低她,我就事論事,她手位不會擺,沒擺好,我指出而已,沒有錯。
三,如果你曾經為學習一種技能傾注了比旁人多的心血,我想你能理解,當看到另外一個初學者為了宣傳效果,急功近利,心想一步登天時的那種難受。
evayip99 2 years ago 11
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evayip99 2 years ago
其實同意你說的,我沒有身處在她的領域,這樣方式的宣傳一定有 她的原因。多謝你指出,我沒有注意到這點。
evayip99 2 years ago
雖然她的專輯包裝得越來越花俏,但歌的質量的確一直在走下坡
本來對她没甚麼意見,作為一個歌手要做到她那樣也挺不容易
但那些奶粉們胡亂吹捧,盲目護主的行為讓不少中立的人也開始討厭她
最煩的就是天天在說蔡怎麼怎麼努力,別忘了這世界努力的人多的是
neptunehaixing 2 years ago 8
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只是很多人選擇了低調,不像她那樣只會拿"努力"作宣傳
不多說甚麼了,她的新專輯一出便遭到萬人唾駡并非空穴來風
奶粉們繼續"努力"地護駕吧~
neptunehaixing 2 years ago
我不同意你說的
她並沒有一直拿她的努力做宣傳
而是她本來就超努力
得到大家的支持是她應得的
yki228 2 years ago
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u better go to die
Mayliesmay 2 years ago
我想请求各位蔡依林小姐的歌迷:
即使你觉得你的公主有着天籁之声,即使你趣味很狭窄只喜欢某个类型的歌手,即使你觉得流行文化就是应该平庸低俗,即使你没有思考 过什么是音乐的灵魂,即使你没有听过这颗星球上那些真正天地动容的歌声,也请你不要说蔡依林是当今华语乐坛的第一天后,这对音乐 艺术和真正热爱音乐的歌手是一种羞辱!
neptunehaixing 2 years ago 5
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那酱你就不要说些恶言来中伤蔡依林,没人会说你哑的。 ''Neptune'果然是来自另一个星球的异种。不过既然你部新欢蔡依林,干嘛还有主意蔡依林的新闻和专辑,真是矛盾
JustinJ12007 2 years ago
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Jolin 你真是越来越不像人
neptunehaixing 2 years ago
听你说话,就知道你是一个脑髓都没有生全的无知小丫头。
众所周知,菜的奶粉除了猪扒骑士多,无脑儿也很多。
neptunehaixing 2 years ago
多说无用。。只有幼稚的的杂种才会写些无聊的话。。一些对号入座的人竟然回复,证明他自己承认咯。。
JustinJ12007 2 years ago
你在讲你自己啊?
neptunehaixing 2 years ago
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那个杂种在回复我说的话阿?
JustinJ12007 2 years ago
@neptunehaixing 一堆廢話~不要拿你自己的感想 來說服喜愛她的人~你沒資格用你的看法左右別人
am59354909 1 year ago
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极度垃圾的一张专辑,还居然5首是翻唱,听她唱歌感觉像堵了鼻子的牛哼哼
除了噱头,一无所有。烂碟一张~
neptunehaixing 2 years ago
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多莫无聊的,多莫幼稚。。。真是看不起你。。
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rain30547 2 years ago
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Jolin, 你越来越不象人了,骨瘦如材,没吃饭?
丑死了,拜托,不怪周杰伦会甩你啦
neptunehaixing 2 years ago
Jolin已經很棒了 他不是專業芭蕾舞者 可以呈現這樣的成果已經很厲害了
everysecretthing 2 years ago 8
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It's a terrible shame to copy the style of a japanese hooker. It makes me wonder is this chick losing her originality in music or just want to worship Japanese. Such a shame.
Sad, she doesn't realise she looks more like a Japanese hooker with skinny arms and ribs.
BTW, if you think she's good and tries hard, I guess she should be doing some kind of swallowing firesticks or swords to impress some fans. But that just shows she's like a circus monkey.
neptunehaixing 2 years ago
well,some lame ppl like u will juz like to write such cheap n lame comment like dis.. u got power to not support her,but u got no power to said something hurt to her. Bitch!
JustinJ12007 2 years ago
Jolin sucks!
Only she can say is "I really really really learned very very very hard!!!"...
But U still suck!!
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fuck u, shut the fuck up! u son of bitch! watch ur mouth!
JustinJ12007 2 years ago
hahaha....
Is that all U got??
Nice defence for Ur lord, show me the quality of Jolin's fan~
hahaha...LOL
cock999 2 years ago
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无聊
JustinJ12007 2 years ago
Such an unpolished, poorly managed performance really shows a lack of respect to the professions and to those who are striving for perfection years after years.
Daniaohello 2 years ago 8
I'm totally agreed with you!
tic626 2 years ago 2
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well,if u can do it perfectly in three month,then u try to perfomance in front of me, u sob! if can't, then shut the fuck up!
JustinJ12007 2 years ago
but the problem is "J*lin can't do it perfectly in three month."
dingcoolwind 2 years ago
well,then u try three month to learn dis,if u can't,then pls stop sent such lame n cheap comment! three month learning for who got no ballet base is very difficult,plus,she is learning the ultimate ballet skill, altough it's not perfect,but still,she had try hard..got it?!
JustinJ12007 2 years ago
reply to JustinJ12007:
then why did she even bother to learn something in such a short period of time? while she knows she can't strive for perfection in the first place?
why can't she focus more on what she's better at? such as improve her singing skills as a singer?
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Daniaohello 2 years ago
god.. she just learn for 3mths.. if you're so smart den why not try learning for 3 mths. I guess u need another 30yrs to do so..
valerietam 2 years ago
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拜托,Jolin只学了3个月的芭蕾,而那些人是从小就学的,当然会有差别,Jolin这样已经是很厉害了啊
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學了三個月根本連現給別人看的資格都沒有
dingcoolwind 2 years ago 19
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那你很会跳吗?不会的话就少说两句,小心出门遭遇不测哦!
JustinJ12007 2 years ago
你去學學看好了
再說別人
yki228 2 years ago
She's such a mess! Anorexic Japanese worshipper - a shame of Chinese!
neptunehaixing 2 years ago 2
she is a shame of chinese? then u better move out from the earth lo! The earth is not accept such a ppl like u. Move out la u!
JustinJ12007 2 years ago
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She should retire, ugly skeleton. Bad role model for chinese, copying Japanese, she's a mess, such a Japanese hooker.
neptunehaixing 2 years ago
u r so lame, copying japanese? then how come Ayumi is been saying by other ppl that she oso copying other artist? copying style, dance and many other stuff frm some america artist?.tell u, altough i'm a fans of ayumi and jolin, i didn't think copying is a big matter! juz 'some' ppl is being so lame,think tat him/her self is perfect.. No one is perfect! U too.
JustinJ12007 2 years ago 2
GOSH!!! T_T she ruined it~
ccmandypurple 2 years ago 6
hahha is the TV station mean or what? purposely showing the professionals right beside Jolin tsai, showing very clearly how ugly her attempts are. Time for her fans to open their eyes real big
tobydh 2 years ago 5
幫幫忙 這2個能比嗎
autumniac 2 years ago 6
對啊 完全不能比
OSITOKEVIN 2 years ago 5