In 09-10, Kobe had a bad index and pinky finger on shooting hand and the Laker shooting coach, Chuck "The Rifleman" Parson, helped him to tweak his jumper so it had better back spin and more arc and therefore, more "lucky" bounces of the ball. Imagine if he shot that well in 2003, His 40 point streak might have been 14 or 15 games long and his season average might have been near 40.
Best Kobe season IMO, better than in 06, when he just took more shots. In 03 he was more all-around, and seemed to be a lot quicker and more explosive. Kobe was never the same after the knee surgery..This was the closest he ever got to MJ. Also this season was before the rule change in 05-06 which makes it more impressive. Kobe finished 3rd in MVP voting that year behind prime Duncan and KG who both had monster seasons and in front of T-Mac who had probably even better stats than Kobe..
@itstheking123 hello go on nba.com and see where they talk about mj 69 points and they would say he made 28 consecutive baskets without missing a shot
i love kobe but not even he had a game where he went 28 consecutive basket without missing a shot that record belongs to michael jordan people always compare but lets look at two things jordan in his prime played against more high calibre players than kobe and i can bet you if mj was as muscular built as kobe he would have broken wilt chamberlin 100 point record
@thabeatkonducta first off you dont know me so dont call me an idot secondly jordan only got muscular and more stronger to the end of his career all around 1996 so if you watch mj in his prime around the eighties when he wasnt even baldheaded then when he beat dominique to win the slam dunk contest was much smaller and those were the times his scoring average were the highest
@patube26 yea i give MJ the slight edge on strength just slightly tho he looks way stronger than Kobe only because the ppl he played against weren't nearly as athletic or strong as the athletes today
no other shooting gaurd in the history of the nba can make these kind of shots for a whole game. not even jordan. i've seen just about every jordan video highlight there is on youtube. and even he couldn't make these types of jumpshots for an entire game. but he made difficult shots close around the rim alot for an entire game alot in his career
This was before staples started doing the "Lights out" thing at games. It was just an experiment for a game or two at first, but it got such a great reaction that it stuck.
@RTR9 conversational text dumbass.. it isn't a sentence, it's a mimic from free flow conversation.. it doesn't adhere to rules of sentence structure if I write it like im saying it. However, spelling applies to both contextual sentences and conversational. Go back to school kid.
@newgarda "conversational text dumbass" "it's a mimic from free flow conversation" You're describing a "Text Message". Computer's are clearly far from a Cell Phone dip shit. We as People do not talk in text fuck face. Talk in a "Conversationl text" on your next English paper and see how that works idiot. I miss placed "Our" with "Are". Kind of like how people sometimes the word "Your" and "You're". Simple Mistake, we are only humans right.......Sorry Jesus Christ.
@RTR9 Lol, yes if i were to write like this on a term paper then i would probably fail but this is youtube. You're mistakes may be dismissed like your and you're but our and are is kinda not similar at all. If that's really sad if thats how you talk. and what about "This was the year where it was distant who the man was" ???!?!?!?!! what does that even mean. But yes we are all human. Im still interested on what that comment meant.
@newgarda "@gregorygumpas lol ur insane, u must be one of those faggots running around with noobtubes and danger close. You mad that you have to have some skill... " No, You go back to school "Kid".
@telj1 You guys still don't understand, you can't give MVP to a player that's on a team that barely cracks the playoffs. I mean it's been an unofficial standard that MVP winners are from the top 3 teams in the LEAGUE. When you put up big numbers on a 55+ winning team, then you can get it.
@AJVersatility19 Maybe..... it's not me that doesn't get. Maybe it's the folks that vote MVPs in. They don't go by the standard you just mentioned.
MVP stands for most valuable player. If you have a bad team or a good team and you take one person off either team and then their win pct tanks, you can say that person was pretty valuable.....RIGHT? What you said to me, ONLY makes sense IF that's how they actually decided to pick an MVP BUT they don't. At any rate who......
@telj1 the hell cares as long as them Lakers keep adding to the banners and the rings. Oh...LMAO at Steve Nash 2 time MVP NEVER ever making it past semis.
He can have those MVPs, might be the only thing he'll be remember for.
@telj1 Well look at the past MVP Winners, they're all on teams that were top 3. Steve Nash earned his MVP and he's still playing really hard for his team. Not really something to laugh at considering the amount of heart he put in his game. Think of how Kobe felt after Shaq. The Lakers were nowhere, and he was clearly frustrated. Then eventually they got better. Winning a ring is very gracious, but i don't believe in laughing at guys like Nash or Dirk.
@telj1 But it is still a great honor, cuz it often co-relates. If you want to win it all, then you have to play at a high level, which often earns a player an MVP while also getting a ring. And for (humble)players without rings, winning MVP can be of great honor, since they weren't fortunate enough to win a ring. For guys like Kobe, who has 5 rings and only 1 MVP, it's nothing. But not a lot of people can be seen as Kobe, so MVP can be really important to the individual.
@AJVersatility19 Again..... Ask any player past or present would they give up the MVP to have a chance to win it all? They wouldn't say what you just stated above.
No one remembers MVP, they remember the wins or the lack thereof. humble or not. Important to an individual? Maybe but I never said it wasn't. However when compared to wining it all, some might consider it unimportant. IDK! I never played in the NBA, got a MVP or a Championship. You just might be better versed at this.
@telj1 I get what you're saying, but you're limiting the options to either, win a championship or win MVP. If those are the only options then yea, easy choice. The options i'm focusing on, since winning a title is very difficult, is would you rather retire with nothing to your name, or at least have 1 or 2 MVP trophies to your career. To those people, having an MVP can be important since they weren't fortunate enough to even get to the finals. Steve Nash being the only one.
@telj1 and you're right, no one remembers MVP, but only for players who've won a ring. There are exceptions to multiple MVP winners, Jordan is remember for getting 6 rings, but no one forgets his 5 MVPs, since 5 is a big number. Players like Kobe, no one's gonna remember his MVP, he only has 1 in relation to his 5 rings. For Nash, those 2 MVPs will always be remembered.
@AJVersatility19 Jordan should have had at least 7. and I'm not even including if he didn't retire (suspended actually) in 1993 & in 1999, who knows he probably would have had at LEAST 8.
@frusionnn So? I don't argue with Ifs and Maybes and Shoulds. Although most factors would favor Jordan winning at least 8. It never happened. So it's irrelevant if you wanna use it for an argument.
@8MunchenBayern8 When did i ever say Nash over Kobe or anything that close? I just said for players like Nash, MVP is what he'll be remembered for. Cuz he was never even in the Finals. As for Durant, no one's force feeding you shit. Analysts predict that Durant will have better stats than LeBron and the Thunder will have sufficient enough record to get him an MVP. Miami will have the better record, but LeBron's stats is projected to not be as good as his MVP years. so it gives Durant the edge
@AJVersatility19 .....Analysts? who ESPN? hahaha the ones that were riding Lebrons jock before he even played one game in the NBA? well MVP...the most VALUABLE player should still go to Lebron....anyone in their right mind would rather have Lebron on their team than Durant......KD was easily shut down in the series against the Lakers...shooting around 35% and half his points being fed to him at the free-throw line; hes just a jumpshooter....if his shots not falling...hes an average player
@8MunchenBayern8 All i'm asking for you guys is to consider the people who NEVER even made it to the Finals. But did win MVP. In their case MVP is very important, cuz that's the highest honor they were awarded. I mean JKidd never won a ring or MVP, yet he's an easy Hall Of Fame pick, along with Nash. It's all about Finals MVP, yes, but you have to consider the great players who never won a ring. They WILL be remember for what you refer as "popularity" awards.
@8MunchenBayern8 Well idk how you can say he's "Just a jumpshooter" considering his FT attempts. Despite shooting 35% he was still efficient, due to his ability to get to the line. I mean LeBron is also one dimensional. Other than powering to the lane, he can only shoot wide open jumpshots.
@AJVersatility19 of course he was valuable to the team...but each team has a heart and soul that does the most for the team....Lebron with Cleveland...Kobe with the Lakers...Dwight with Orlando...in OKC its debatable who means more to the team...Westbrook or Durant..., I really think CP3 means a lot more to his team than Durant does to OKC....CP3 is the team , people seem to forget he was by far the best point guard in the nba, just because he was injured last season doesnt mean hes not anymore.
@8MunchenBayern8 CP3 is and will always be the most valuable player of any team if he stays in NO. He IS the best PG in the league. I know Rondo is gaining the most popularity, but CP is better. That's why i was actually mad when Kobe won MVP. As big a Kobe fan as i am, i was sorely disappointed CP didn't win, he took the EXACT same team as the season prior, and got them a better record. Lakers had to add Gasol. CP missed a great opportunity.
@AJVersatility19 ...Rondo hes those huge assist number because of Ray Allen mostly...just throwing the ball to him for 3s and setting up plays for Garnett and Pierce....his value is mostly on the defensive end when he plays the passing lanes...oh and Kobe had NOBODY on that team...you can say that nash without barbosa, bell, stoudemire, thomas, marion wouldnt have won MVP if he was on Kobe's garbage teams.....no one on bad teams ever win mvp, even if they are by far the best play in the league
@8MunchenBayern8 I don't even have Rondo in my top 5 PGs. Which is terrible i know, but i'm a Knicks and Lakers fan, all rivals of the Celtics, so Rondo gets downgraded. He's very good on defense and hustle, but CP3 is still the best PG. The most common form of argument ppl use is switching teams, put CP3 and boston and that team will be better. And that's what i said in the beginning. Your team has to be top 3 to win MVP, that's why i disagree with ppl sayin Kobe deserved got robbed.
@8MunchenBayern8 Dwight will be a close second to Durant, assuming he's gonna win. Although there are plenty of people more valuable to their team than Durant, to win MVP you also have to excel in your statline. along with having a top 3 record in the league. "Valuable" is sometimes a little too overstated when it comes to MVP. I mean before Mo Williams, cleveland was 45-50wins. After Mo 60-65. Lebron improved, but without Mo they'd still be 45-50. Wouldn't you say that's valuable?
@AJVersatility19 well thiing with Lebron is...if you get close enough to contest his jumper...he'll just find a way to drive through the lane and score...and his driving game is second to none...it used to just be run into people as fast as you can...and then get a foul and 1 possibility...but Lebrons game has vastly improved in his last few years....now that I come to think about it...the only player that could consistently make outside shots while being contested was Kobe in his prime...
@8MunchenBayern8 Valuable to the team's success? Absolutely. I mean Kobe, Lebron and Paul Pierce were always in LA, Cleveland, and Boston. It wasn't until the pieces were fit in that they became a powerhouse. I'm not denying Lebron's improvement, he gets better every year. And i'm not saying consistently make contested outside shots. I mean actually creating shots in the perimeter in the likes of Kobe Bryant and OJ Mayo. BTW anyone would find a way to drive if you guard em too close.
@AJVersatility19 yes but those are the primary pieces that you surround with a supporting cast...you cant replace a Kobe or a Lebron or a Dwayne Wade....but you can replace a mo williams, a lamar odom, or a Perkins.....see what im geting at? oh and i wouldnt put oj mayos shot making ability in the same category as Kobe's lol
@8MunchenBayern8 Well yea, i mean take Kobe, Lebron(before Miami) out of their respective teams, and they'll barely make playoffs. Take the important pieces out, and they won't be close to the best. I mean Lakers without Gasol means a 45win Lakers. Lakers without Kobe would mean 35-40. Same with Cleveland, without Lebron, they'll only make the playoffs cause they're in the east. I get what you're saying. The difference in success is vast without Lebron, and minor without Mo. But still a big one
@AJVersatility19 CP3 at least had a competent player in David West, that he could run the pick and roll with...Kobe had NO ONE....when the 2nd best player on your team is inconsistent Lamar Odom.... lol....then you know your team cant be very good... seeing as how Kobe dropped 50 on the suns in game 6 and they still lost
@8MunchenBayern8 What i'm saying about CP is, he had the same team the previous year, and took that team to 56 wins the next season. Kobe had to get Gasol to get 57 wins. Paul deserved that MVP. No one was added to his team, no big names, he just played alot better than the previous season which resulted in the production of his teammates to increase.
@AJVersatility19 David west, chandler and peja were all good players that year. Your not really making any sense with your claim. Put kobe on the hornets in 2008 and you have guy that can take over games for you, all chris does is pass the ball, anyone can pass a fuckin ball to an open teamate.
@8MunchenBayern8 Oh ya and don't get me started with OJ. I MAY have a man crush on the guy lol but he's just so good. His rookie year was just a win in every sense. I mean i haven't been this excited about a player since Kobe back in '99(when i first started watching NBA consistently), and that's no fluke. I wouldn't put OJ next to Kobe yet, but as far as age comparison, he's as good as Kobe was at that age. With similar Stats!
@AJVersatility19 Kobe was arguably the best SG in the NBA at 22 years of age lol....droppin 50 point games left and right...and helping the Lakers in games when shaqs fat ass would foul out (which was every other game) ...hit about 5 game winners as well....remember when Kobe hit that game winner against the grizzlies? well mayo had the chance to return the favor late in game..(he missed) =]
@8MunchenBayern8 Kobe also had 4-5 years of NBA experience at that age, that amounts to a lot. Mayo was just a rookie putting up those numbers and showing the confidence(extremely important for rookies), and ability to make shots. When i factor those out. Mayo and Kobe are very similar is skill and production.
@Disposable5 "Kobe had 4-5 years of NBA experience at THAT AGE" read it again. If you still don't get it, then nvm. And what i meant is he had the same David West, the same Tyson Chandler, and the same Peja the year before, and they did terrible still. It wasn't until Paul stepped up his play that his teammates started playing better and they won 56. it wasn't until the addition of Gasol that the Lakers won 57. And i don't argue with "what ifs" so i'm just gonna ignore that put Kobe in NO part.
@8MunchenBayern8 Oh ya, and that being said about pieces coming into the team, all these players, Gasol, Mo Williams, Ray Allen, KG and Rondo are equally valuable to the team, MVP just goes to the one with better stats i.e. the leader. Don't take that as me saying they're better players. In consideration to the team and their contribution, they're all equally deserving.
@AJVersatility19 theyre vital to the teams success, but without that one piece the team is nothing....without MJ the bulls were nothing...but the pieces around him couldve been replaced with other good players around the league (except for Pippen)
@8MunchenBayern8 Westbrook is a thousand times better than Mo, but they were/are equally valuable to their respective teams' success. Every team that improved, always gained a valuable player to make themselves better. Lakers with Gasol(MVP goes to Kobe), Boston with KG and Allen(PP gets Finals MVP), Mo Williams with Cleveland(Lebron wins MVPs). That's a great case of argument in my opinion that those players just named were more valuable than the actual winners(who simply had better stats)
@fmcneillii dude his finger will never be fixed thats why they hired that guy who had the same problem with finger and played the rest of his career like that
@TheKobe24mamba He can get his finger fixed. At least to a point where the pain is taken away. It wont be exactly the same but there are things that can be done. Problem in the past kobe was too busy playing basketball to do anything about it.
Bullshit. Shaq couldve gotten those with any other decent two guard! Kobe needs an absolutely complete team to even compete and still lose. You have your facts all fucked up... take kobe's ball sack out you mouth, pull your thumb out of his asshole, and use logical fair sense when you leave a comment.
no he couldnt have.shaq needs a superstar sg to win.if he wins this year which hes probably not he has steve nash and amare stoudemire.shaq+penny hardaway=no championship.shaq+wade=1 championship.shaq+kobe=3 straight.coincidence?no.he needs a really good sg to win.
Motherfucker I'm grown.If I am wrong prove it.Let me know so I can be corrected.I don't want to go around spreading lies.Oh wait a minute I'm not lying.I guess that means you should shut the fuck up.
U kno, He hit nuthing but back rim on every fadeaway, It's like there is no net,or its like he's just hitting the back of the rim to show how good he is, he chooses what kind of shot to hit, I'm his number 1 fan, if he doesn't kick his left leg out on a fadeaway, then the shot will be back rim, trust me , I'm his number 1 Fan!!!!!
I don't know what Flames is talking about, but Kobe was not a ballhog in that game. Plus aside from Shaq who was hurt, they did not have anyone else. At least Jordan had Pippen.
how does he do it you double team he'll J it on you put your best defender on him dont matter he is a force of nature and will go down in history LakersRules24 you really know a quality player when you see one and kobe is the best he probably better than micheal jordan
kobe is on another level. he takes tough shots, he makes tough shots. shot 50% for the game. as long as a player is making shots at a good percentage they should keep shooting. whatever helps the team get the most points in the most efficient way.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
yea kobe is fucking stupid jordan would beat kobe one on one get you're head out of you're asses jordan is the best off the ball defender he'll make kobe his bitch ps im a spurs fan as if someone says kobe would beat jordan one on one need there fucking head shot off big time
well i think jordan, as of today, is the best player of all time, BUT, i dont think he would beat kobe at one on one, kobe is the better one on one player.
Kobe can score but its about winning and jordan 6 championships and bes record ever? thats why hes the greatest but 1 on 1 ( which is not what the game is about) kobe wud win probably i dont know they are so close to being tied for greatest i like them both
kobe still has time, IMO at 29 yrs old kobe is the better player, so he still has time to do some things, provided if he gets a decent team, cause everyone knows Jordan's teammates were way better than what the Lkaers got. but yeh as of now i think jordan is still better
This might be Kobe's best video because he shows how deadly his fade away jumper is. I mean he literally looks for the slightest of spaces to rise up and shoot. Its truly amazing.
Apparently 29% 02 03 season is cement. Hmmm
dantestriptohell 2 months ago
hahah marv albert.....KOBE AGAIN.....heres kobe AGAIN
sweetscience211 3 months ago
1:05 LOL @ robert horny
meemendi 5 months ago
Yao Ming can't do shit
Zeid28 6 months ago
In 09-10, Kobe had a bad index and pinky finger on shooting hand and the Laker shooting coach, Chuck "The Rifleman" Parson, helped him to tweak his jumper so it had better back spin and more arc and therefore, more "lucky" bounces of the ball. Imagine if he shot that well in 2003, His 40 point streak might have been 14 or 15 games long and his season average might have been near 40.
Rexanglorum 6 months ago
Best Kobe season IMO, better than in 06, when he just took more shots. In 03 he was more all-around, and seemed to be a lot quicker and more explosive. Kobe was never the same after the knee surgery..This was the closest he ever got to MJ. Also this season was before the rule change in 05-06 which makes it more impressive. Kobe finished 3rd in MVP voting that year behind prime Duncan and KG who both had monster seasons and in front of T-Mac who had probably even better stats than Kobe..
HymanKaplan 6 months ago
2003, 2006, 2007 kobe should have had MVP and is MVP that many times in my mind.
nitotech 7 months ago
Damn i miss these days, memories.Kobes still argubally the best player in the world or certainly top 3.Its amazing hes 32.
aaron203aaron 8 months ago
@johnny1ization
Michael never made 28 consecutive baskets you idiot. get your facts straight.
itstheking123 8 months ago
@itstheking123 hello go on nba.com and see where they talk about mj 69 points and they would say he made 28 consecutive baskets without missing a shot
johnny1ization 8 months ago
Man he should have won 2 more MVPs...or 3..2006-2007 2002-2003 (2007-2008)
DrCraZzY1 9 months ago
@DrCraZzY1 2005-2006 aswell. 35.4 PPG which was highest since Jordan in 1987.
AllKobe24 8 months ago
i love kobe but not even he had a game where he went 28 consecutive basket without missing a shot that record belongs to michael jordan people always compare but lets look at two things jordan in his prime played against more high calibre players than kobe and i can bet you if mj was as muscular built as kobe he would have broken wilt chamberlin 100 point record
johnny1ization 9 months ago
@johnny1ization mj was stronger than kobe you idiot
thabeatkonducta 8 months ago
@thabeatkonducta first off you dont know me so dont call me an idot secondly jordan only got muscular and more stronger to the end of his career all around 1996 so if you watch mj in his prime around the eighties when he wasnt even baldheaded then when he beat dominique to win the slam dunk contest was much smaller and those were the times his scoring average were the highest
johnny1ization 8 months ago
@johnny1ization hey idiot, you spelled idiot wrong.
thabeatkonducta 8 months ago
@thabeatkonducta hahalolol.....yes, sir Jordan was def. stronger then Kobe...
patube26 6 months ago
@patube26 yea i give MJ the slight edge on strength just slightly tho he looks way stronger than Kobe only because the ppl he played against weren't nearly as athletic or strong as the athletes today
amunrahII 3 months ago
no other shooting gaurd in the history of the nba can make these kind of shots for a whole game. not even jordan. i've seen just about every jordan video highlight there is on youtube. and even he couldn't make these types of jumpshots for an entire game. but he made difficult shots close around the rim alot for an entire game alot in his career
92plana 10 months ago
2:11 not only did he score 52 he had 8 rebounds and 7 assist
oliverrainman 1 year ago
52/106 lmaoooo
Sarkis24 1 year ago
is it just ME or does the Staples Center now seem darker than the one I we are watching?? What's up with that?
aivrsn75phila 1 year ago
@aivrsn75phila
This was before staples started doing the "Lights out" thing at games. It was just an experiment for a game or two at first, but it got such a great reaction that it stuck.
machina21 1 year ago
Comment removed
RTR9 1 year ago
@RTR9 spell fail.... our/are they don't even sound the same...
newgarda 1 year ago
@newgarda Spell fail. That's a Capital S in Spell. You always start a sentence with a Capital tough guy.
RTR9 1 year ago
@RTR9 conversational text dumbass.. it isn't a sentence, it's a mimic from free flow conversation.. it doesn't adhere to rules of sentence structure if I write it like im saying it. However, spelling applies to both contextual sentences and conversational. Go back to school kid.
newgarda 1 year ago
@newgarda "conversational text dumbass" "it's a mimic from free flow conversation" You're describing a "Text Message". Computer's are clearly far from a Cell Phone dip shit. We as People do not talk in text fuck face. Talk in a "Conversationl text" on your next English paper and see how that works idiot. I miss placed "Our" with "Are". Kind of like how people sometimes the word "Your" and "You're". Simple Mistake, we are only humans right.......Sorry Jesus Christ.
RTR9 1 year ago
@RTR9 Lol, yes if i were to write like this on a term paper then i would probably fail but this is youtube. You're mistakes may be dismissed like your and you're but our and are is kinda not similar at all. If that's really sad if thats how you talk. and what about "This was the year where it was distant who the man was" ???!?!?!?!! what does that even mean. But yes we are all human. Im still interested on what that comment meant.
newgarda 1 year ago
@newgarda "@gregorygumpas lol ur insane, u must be one of those faggots running around with noobtubes and danger close. You mad that you have to have some skill... " No, You go back to school "Kid".
RTR9 1 year ago
This was the year where it was distant who the man was.
RTR9 1 year ago
@RTR9 what?
newgarda 1 year ago
@newgarda Spell Fail. It's a Captial W.
RTR9 1 year ago
jesus christ.
8MunchenBayern8 1 year ago
C'mon...Kobe should have a bunch of MVPs. One word comes to mind robed.
I guess it doesn't matter when folks that don't even play the sport vote. I know one thing is for sure. THEY CAN'T ROB HIM OF THOSE RINGS!
telj1 1 year ago
@telj1 You guys still don't understand, you can't give MVP to a player that's on a team that barely cracks the playoffs. I mean it's been an unofficial standard that MVP winners are from the top 3 teams in the LEAGUE. When you put up big numbers on a 55+ winning team, then you can get it.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 Maybe..... it's not me that doesn't get. Maybe it's the folks that vote MVPs in. They don't go by the standard you just mentioned.
MVP stands for most valuable player. If you have a bad team or a good team and you take one person off either team and then their win pct tanks, you can say that person was pretty valuable.....RIGHT? What you said to me, ONLY makes sense IF that's how they actually decided to pick an MVP BUT they don't. At any rate who......
telj1 1 year ago
@telj1 the hell cares as long as them Lakers keep adding to the banners and the rings. Oh...LMAO at Steve Nash 2 time MVP NEVER ever making it past semis.
He can have those MVPs, might be the only thing he'll be remember for.
telj1 1 year ago
@telj1 Well look at the past MVP Winners, they're all on teams that were top 3. Steve Nash earned his MVP and he's still playing really hard for his team. Not really something to laugh at considering the amount of heart he put in his game. Think of how Kobe felt after Shaq. The Lakers were nowhere, and he was clearly frustrated. Then eventually they got better. Winning a ring is very gracious, but i don't believe in laughing at guys like Nash or Dirk.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 MVP is great but not really. Ultimate goal is to win as a team.
The individual accolades are only so good.
telj1 1 year ago
@telj1 But it is still a great honor, cuz it often co-relates. If you want to win it all, then you have to play at a high level, which often earns a player an MVP while also getting a ring. And for (humble)players without rings, winning MVP can be of great honor, since they weren't fortunate enough to win a ring. For guys like Kobe, who has 5 rings and only 1 MVP, it's nothing. But not a lot of people can be seen as Kobe, so MVP can be really important to the individual.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 Again..... Ask any player past or present would they give up the MVP to have a chance to win it all? They wouldn't say what you just stated above.
No one remembers MVP, they remember the wins or the lack thereof. humble or not. Important to an individual? Maybe but I never said it wasn't. However when compared to wining it all, some might consider it unimportant. IDK! I never played in the NBA, got a MVP or a Championship. You just might be better versed at this.
telj1 1 year ago
@telj1 I get what you're saying, but you're limiting the options to either, win a championship or win MVP. If those are the only options then yea, easy choice. The options i'm focusing on, since winning a title is very difficult, is would you rather retire with nothing to your name, or at least have 1 or 2 MVP trophies to your career. To those people, having an MVP can be important since they weren't fortunate enough to even get to the finals. Steve Nash being the only one.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@telj1 and you're right, no one remembers MVP, but only for players who've won a ring. There are exceptions to multiple MVP winners, Jordan is remember for getting 6 rings, but no one forgets his 5 MVPs, since 5 is a big number. Players like Kobe, no one's gonna remember his MVP, he only has 1 in relation to his 5 rings. For Nash, those 2 MVPs will always be remembered.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 Jordan should have had at least 7. and I'm not even including if he didn't retire (suspended actually) in 1993 & in 1999, who knows he probably would have had at LEAST 8.
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn So? I don't argue with Ifs and Maybes and Shoulds. Although most factors would favor Jordan winning at least 8. It never happened. So it's irrelevant if you wanna use it for an argument.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 MVP is just a popularity contest.....Nash over Kobe in his prime? LOL.....
plus now they wana force feed us that Durant should be MVP? over Lebron? yea fucking right.
Lebron was popular before his bitch move this summer....now since it went down they wana give the MVP to DUrant...
MVP means nothing....all about FINALS MVP
8MunchenBayern8 1 year ago
@8MunchenBayern8 When did i ever say Nash over Kobe or anything that close? I just said for players like Nash, MVP is what he'll be remembered for. Cuz he was never even in the Finals. As for Durant, no one's force feeding you shit. Analysts predict that Durant will have better stats than LeBron and the Thunder will have sufficient enough record to get him an MVP. Miami will have the better record, but LeBron's stats is projected to not be as good as his MVP years. so it gives Durant the edge
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 .....Analysts? who ESPN? hahaha the ones that were riding Lebrons jock before he even played one game in the NBA? well MVP...the most VALUABLE player should still go to Lebron....anyone in their right mind would rather have Lebron on their team than Durant......KD was easily shut down in the series against the Lakers...shooting around 35% and half his points being fed to him at the free-throw line; hes just a jumpshooter....if his shots not falling...hes an average player
8MunchenBayern8 1 year ago
@8MunchenBayern8 All i'm asking for you guys is to consider the people who NEVER even made it to the Finals. But did win MVP. In their case MVP is very important, cuz that's the highest honor they were awarded. I mean JKidd never won a ring or MVP, yet he's an easy Hall Of Fame pick, along with Nash. It's all about Finals MVP, yes, but you have to consider the great players who never won a ring. They WILL be remember for what you refer as "popularity" awards.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 The only reason that series was even close was due to Westbrook's penetration against Fisher... RW was fuckin up the laker Defense...
Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Carmelo, CP3, Dwight Howard, are all more valuable players than Durant....
8MunchenBayern8 1 year ago
@8MunchenBayern8 Well idk how you can say he's "Just a jumpshooter" considering his FT attempts. Despite shooting 35% he was still efficient, due to his ability to get to the line. I mean LeBron is also one dimensional. Other than powering to the lane, he can only shoot wide open jumpshots.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 of course he was valuable to the team...but each team has a heart and soul that does the most for the team....Lebron with Cleveland...Kobe with the Lakers...Dwight with Orlando...in OKC its debatable who means more to the team...Westbrook or Durant..., I really think CP3 means a lot more to his team than Durant does to OKC....CP3 is the team , people seem to forget he was by far the best point guard in the nba, just because he was injured last season doesnt mean hes not anymore.
8MunchenBayern8 1 year ago
@8MunchenBayern8 CP3 is and will always be the most valuable player of any team if he stays in NO. He IS the best PG in the league. I know Rondo is gaining the most popularity, but CP is better. That's why i was actually mad when Kobe won MVP. As big a Kobe fan as i am, i was sorely disappointed CP didn't win, he took the EXACT same team as the season prior, and got them a better record. Lakers had to add Gasol. CP missed a great opportunity.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 ...Rondo hes those huge assist number because of Ray Allen mostly...just throwing the ball to him for 3s and setting up plays for Garnett and Pierce....his value is mostly on the defensive end when he plays the passing lanes...oh and Kobe had NOBODY on that team...you can say that nash without barbosa, bell, stoudemire, thomas, marion wouldnt have won MVP if he was on Kobe's garbage teams.....no one on bad teams ever win mvp, even if they are by far the best play in the league
8MunchenBayern8 1 year ago
@8MunchenBayern8 I don't even have Rondo in my top 5 PGs. Which is terrible i know, but i'm a Knicks and Lakers fan, all rivals of the Celtics, so Rondo gets downgraded. He's very good on defense and hustle, but CP3 is still the best PG. The most common form of argument ppl use is switching teams, put CP3 and boston and that team will be better. And that's what i said in the beginning. Your team has to be top 3 to win MVP, that's why i disagree with ppl sayin Kobe deserved got robbed.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@8MunchenBayern8 Dwight will be a close second to Durant, assuming he's gonna win. Although there are plenty of people more valuable to their team than Durant, to win MVP you also have to excel in your statline. along with having a top 3 record in the league. "Valuable" is sometimes a little too overstated when it comes to MVP. I mean before Mo Williams, cleveland was 45-50wins. After Mo 60-65. Lebron improved, but without Mo they'd still be 45-50. Wouldn't you say that's valuable?
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 well thiing with Lebron is...if you get close enough to contest his jumper...he'll just find a way to drive through the lane and score...and his driving game is second to none...it used to just be run into people as fast as you can...and then get a foul and 1 possibility...but Lebrons game has vastly improved in his last few years....now that I come to think about it...the only player that could consistently make outside shots while being contested was Kobe in his prime...
8MunchenBayern8 1 year ago
@8MunchenBayern8 Valuable to the team's success? Absolutely. I mean Kobe, Lebron and Paul Pierce were always in LA, Cleveland, and Boston. It wasn't until the pieces were fit in that they became a powerhouse. I'm not denying Lebron's improvement, he gets better every year. And i'm not saying consistently make contested outside shots. I mean actually creating shots in the perimeter in the likes of Kobe Bryant and OJ Mayo. BTW anyone would find a way to drive if you guard em too close.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 yes but those are the primary pieces that you surround with a supporting cast...you cant replace a Kobe or a Lebron or a Dwayne Wade....but you can replace a mo williams, a lamar odom, or a Perkins.....see what im geting at? oh and i wouldnt put oj mayos shot making ability in the same category as Kobe's lol
8MunchenBayern8 1 year ago
@8MunchenBayern8 Well yea, i mean take Kobe, Lebron(before Miami) out of their respective teams, and they'll barely make playoffs. Take the important pieces out, and they won't be close to the best. I mean Lakers without Gasol means a 45win Lakers. Lakers without Kobe would mean 35-40. Same with Cleveland, without Lebron, they'll only make the playoffs cause they're in the east. I get what you're saying. The difference in success is vast without Lebron, and minor without Mo. But still a big one
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 CP3 at least had a competent player in David West, that he could run the pick and roll with...Kobe had NO ONE....when the 2nd best player on your team is inconsistent Lamar Odom.... lol....then you know your team cant be very good... seeing as how Kobe dropped 50 on the suns in game 6 and they still lost
8MunchenBayern8 1 year ago
@8MunchenBayern8 What i'm saying about CP is, he had the same team the previous year, and took that team to 56 wins the next season. Kobe had to get Gasol to get 57 wins. Paul deserved that MVP. No one was added to his team, no big names, he just played alot better than the previous season which resulted in the production of his teammates to increase.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 David west, chandler and peja were all good players that year. Your not really making any sense with your claim. Put kobe on the hornets in 2008 and you have guy that can take over games for you, all chris does is pass the ball, anyone can pass a fuckin ball to an open teamate.
Disposable5 1 year ago
@Disposable5 anyone can pass a fuckin ball eh ? how come you aren't in then NBA then.... fuckingg CP3 hater.
AvsSince96 1 year ago
@8MunchenBayern8 Oh ya and don't get me started with OJ. I MAY have a man crush on the guy lol but he's just so good. His rookie year was just a win in every sense. I mean i haven't been this excited about a player since Kobe back in '99(when i first started watching NBA consistently), and that's no fluke. I wouldn't put OJ next to Kobe yet, but as far as age comparison, he's as good as Kobe was at that age. With similar Stats!
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 Kobe was arguably the best SG in the NBA at 22 years of age lol....droppin 50 point games left and right...and helping the Lakers in games when shaqs fat ass would foul out (which was every other game) ...hit about 5 game winners as well....remember when Kobe hit that game winner against the grizzlies? well mayo had the chance to return the favor late in game..(he missed) =]
8MunchenBayern8 1 year ago
@8MunchenBayern8 Kobe also had 4-5 years of NBA experience at that age, that amounts to a lot. Mayo was just a rookie putting up those numbers and showing the confidence(extremely important for rookies), and ability to make shots. When i factor those out. Mayo and Kobe are very similar is skill and production.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 4-5 years of experience? Kobe has like 11 years on mayo
Disposable5 1 year ago
@Disposable5 "Kobe had 4-5 years of NBA experience at THAT AGE" read it again. If you still don't get it, then nvm. And what i meant is he had the same David West, the same Tyson Chandler, and the same Peja the year before, and they did terrible still. It wasn't until Paul stepped up his play that his teammates started playing better and they won 56. it wasn't until the addition of Gasol that the Lakers won 57. And i don't argue with "what ifs" so i'm just gonna ignore that put Kobe in NO part.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@8MunchenBayern8 Oh ya, and that being said about pieces coming into the team, all these players, Gasol, Mo Williams, Ray Allen, KG and Rondo are equally valuable to the team, MVP just goes to the one with better stats i.e. the leader. Don't take that as me saying they're better players. In consideration to the team and their contribution, they're all equally deserving.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 theyre vital to the teams success, but without that one piece the team is nothing....without MJ the bulls were nothing...but the pieces around him couldve been replaced with other good players around the league (except for Pippen)
8MunchenBayern8 1 year ago
@8MunchenBayern8 Westbrook is a thousand times better than Mo, but they were/are equally valuable to their respective teams' success. Every team that improved, always gained a valuable player to make themselves better. Lakers with Gasol(MVP goes to Kobe), Boston with KG and Allen(PP gets Finals MVP), Mo Williams with Cleveland(Lebron wins MVPs). That's a great case of argument in my opinion that those players just named were more valuable than the actual winners(who simply had better stats)
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 so you think Mo williams was more valuable than Lebron...lolll just cause Lebron had better stats than hiM?
8MunchenBayern8 1 year ago
He couldnt miss
crabsinthepools 1 year ago
AND THE FOUL!!!! 1:28
Ctijerino22 1 year ago
fuck lucia
onoitzharry 1 year ago
kobe is better than michael jordan
actoman1 1 year ago
damn kobe always got elevation on his jumper wish he could have that now
this was Kobe when he was unstoppable
CLilShorty 1 year ago
@CLilShorty he still is but he has teamates that can help him out
kikeazul70 1 year ago
@CLilShorty He does now that his knee is back. Hopefully his finger is fixed too
fmcneillii 1 year ago
@fmcneillii dude his finger will never be fixed thats why they hired that guy who had the same problem with finger and played the rest of his career like that
TheKobe24mamba 1 year ago
@TheKobe24mamba He can get his finger fixed. At least to a point where the pain is taken away. It wont be exactly the same but there are things that can be done. Problem in the past kobe was too busy playing basketball to do anything about it.
fmcneillii 1 year ago
y is there nothin written on la's jerseys
FlamezMaster2 2 years ago
Amazing february 2003 for kobe:
13 plays: he scored 40,38,42,35,46,42,51,44,40,52,40,40,41!!!!
enialis77210 2 years ago 2
Scoring titles don't win you MVP's retards...if thats the case Jordan would have 10 mvp's in a row. Tim Duncan scored and rebounded, and won.
GTDyno 2 years ago
@GTDyno JORDAN IS NOOB AS WELL AS BULLS SHIT PLAYER SHITTY TEAM!!
BroTrainer 1 year ago
@BroTrainer Go to school...Take English 1A and learn how to type complete sentences. Thank you.
GTDyno 1 year ago
@GTDyno kobe still got robbed
kikeazul70 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
wow kobe used to be so good. why is he such a fag now
TheAznPwns 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I offer this game on DVD complete. If intrested, must have paypal. Get at me.
pennywisem22 2 years ago
Kobe should have been MVP that year also.
BOX5 2 years ago 55
they gave it to dat boring ass Tim Duncan! damn!
humanssucksballz 2 years ago
he should have fuck tim dumbcant
Metalstryke 2 years ago
@BOX5
who got MVP in 2003?
aivrsn75phila 1 year ago
@aivrsn75phila
the wrong person.
dr0ckisadmac 1 year ago
@BOX5 AND HE HAD THE CEMENT 3'S
ptubene1 5 months ago
i got those jordans kobe is wearing. got mine customized to look like em.
jamesanderson26 2 years ago
shaq didn't win with orlando then he went to the lakers and won 3 WITH kobe and he went to the heat and won with dwyane wade
DoubleATheBeast 2 years ago
Robbed MVP -.-
beatb0xed 2 years ago 41
@beatb0xed No doubt, averaged 30 Points, 7 Rebounds for a guard, 6 assists for a guy who doesn't even play PG, and 2 Steals. Screw Tim Duncan.
AllKobe24 8 months ago
@AllKobe24 and that was playing alongside a 27ppg shaq as well.
GlobalDesignHUB 3 months ago
What a fake at 2:00. great Post
Nba33Bulls 2 years ago
Well obviosly not cause he lost when he was with the magic so shaq should thank Kob
RTR9 2 years ago
He is Damn amazing!!!No one can stop him.
CYW913 2 years ago 4
man i hate when ppl say shaq was the only reason they won those championships because even when shaq was there he was lighting it up
palmer019 2 years ago 6
elevation on kobe's jumper..
sexbuffet 2 years ago
NewWorldRob.......shut the fuck up, Retard.....you're embarrassing yourself
youknowwatitis 3 years ago 4
Doesn't everyone need a complete team to win? lol just putting that out there... dumb fuck
Beaudreau 3 years ago
LEARN TO FUCKING READ SHITBRAIN!
NewWorldRob 3 years ago
nba, where being mvp. and stil lose tha finals hard,happends...
xKINGxSTORYx 3 years ago
Not as bad as Lebron did, Lebron was swept and shot 35 %, Kobe lost in 6 and shot 40 % . The Netherlands are gay.
samt8405 3 years ago
Also Kobe was the First Mvp since Duncan to even make the finals the same year. Nash and Dirk were pathetic mvps.
samt8405 3 years ago
u say the netherlands like its plural. i mean... thats cool.
godswiph 3 years ago
Kobe rules...
ThanosB24 3 years ago 2
Sick game....
madsvh666 3 years ago 3
And Shaq didnt need Kobe? Haha, look at this domination. Man those werent "Shaqs rings" they were Kobes AND Shaqs. Fucking haters.
peterdabest94 3 years ago
well put
EmadKhalek31 3 years ago
Bullshit. Shaq couldve gotten those with any other decent two guard! Kobe needs an absolutely complete team to even compete and still lose. You have your facts all fucked up... take kobe's ball sack out you mouth, pull your thumb out of his asshole, and use logical fair sense when you leave a comment.
NewWorldRob 3 years ago
no he couldnt have.shaq needs a superstar sg to win.if he wins this year which hes probably not he has steve nash and amare stoudemire.shaq+penny hardaway=no championship.shaq+wade=1 championship.shaq+kobe=3 straight.coincidence?no.he needs a really good sg to win.
FTS500 3 years ago
eat a diiiiick
NewWorldRob 3 years ago
thats all you got to say?thats because you know im right you faggot.
FTS500 3 years ago
NO CHILD! U got ya fuckin little nonsense facts all fucked up. So why would I feed a asshole a steak!
NewWorldRob 3 years ago
Motherfucker I'm grown.If I am wrong prove it.Let me know so I can be corrected.I don't want to go around spreading lies.Oh wait a minute I'm not lying.I guess that means you should shut the fuck up.
FTS500 3 years ago
Dude, even shaq himself wouldnt say that he would have won 3 straight without kobe.
tkeny1 2 years ago 6
Shaq also said that the Suns are the best team he's ever been on. So what's your point?
pennywisem22 2 years ago
thats just him fucking trying to look like he actually likes his environment.
IDIOT
G0000MBA 2 years ago
02-03 kobe=unstoppable
BBALLADDICT94 3 years ago 3
And still is....
ckl34 3 years ago
basketball is so easy
kobestyle19 3 years ago
when ur kobe bryant...
mvpguru 3 years ago 9
what do you mean by "easy"
aballerandaboss 3 years ago
maestro...best of all time
senad0004 3 years ago
haha the fake at 2:01 is wicked
andraynguyen 3 years ago 4
poor yao!
xcprince 3 years ago
U kno, He hit nuthing but back rim on every fadeaway, It's like there is no net,or its like he's just hitting the back of the rim to show how good he is, he chooses what kind of shot to hit, I'm his number 1 fan, if he doesn't kick his left leg out on a fadeaway, then the shot will be back rim, trust me , I'm his number 1 Fan!!!!!
oweeezy24 3 years ago
sweet to watch.. =)
tagz017 3 years ago
I don't know what Flames is talking about, but Kobe was not a ballhog in that game. Plus aside from Shaq who was hurt, they did not have anyone else. At least Jordan had Pippen.
donscrizz 3 years ago
this is the year kobe wore nothing but jordans
josette5 3 years ago 2
how does he do it you double team he'll J it on you put your best defender on him dont matter he is a force of nature and will go down in history LakersRules24 you really know a quality player when you see one and kobe is the best he probably better than micheal jordan
newgroundsjunky14 3 years ago 2
Kobe is a prolific scorer he is an offensive machine easily the best two since Jordan!
MichealAirJordan 3 years ago 3
MJ at 1:46?
vfgjhj 3 years ago
if ne1 calls him a ballhog ur retards he had 52 pts 8 rbs 7 assts
Birdman740 3 years ago 4
he was a ballhog in this game, look at some of thoses shots he took when he teamates were open
FlamesXT10 3 years ago
kobe is on another level. he takes tough shots, he makes tough shots. shot 50% for the game. as long as a player is making shots at a good percentage they should keep shooting. whatever helps the team get the most points in the most efficient way.
billclinton 3 years ago
so the fuck what flame bitch!!!
AL11JK12 3 years ago
fuck you, go suck a dick you fucker
FlamesXT10 3 years ago
dont tell me to suck shit you son of a bitch,I'll fuckin stomp yo ass nigga!!!
AL11JK12 3 years ago
fuck you bitch, go back to sucking on dick you fucking piece of chicken shit
FlamesXT10 3 years ago
a dont be disrespectin me man...you know better than that.
AL11JK12 3 years ago
hahah ming got owned
FlamesXT10 3 years ago
The crazy thing is, is that almost all these points are jump shots.
xoxoJOHNxoxo 3 years ago 3
The crazy thing is, is that almost all these points are jump shots.
xoxoJOHNxoxo 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I Like MG20 Better.
alamoro 3 years ago
Manu doesnt get enough respect, he is amazing but still cant be mentioned with Kobe.
LakersDynasty24 3 years ago
again...hits again!! AGAIN!
lcel3ergslimm 3 years ago
kobe would beat jordan evne phil jackson said kobe was the fastest person to get hot like that hes ever coached and he coached jordan........
Stickman786 3 years ago
Kobe Bryant chum baltt (=bastard)
eliran2356 4 years ago
hahah that chinese yao got owned, kobe got robbed for MVP
QuickSilva12 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
yea kobe is fucking stupid jordan would beat kobe one on one get you're head out of you're asses jordan is the best off the ball defender he'll make kobe his bitch ps im a spurs fan as if someone says kobe would beat jordan one on one need there fucking head shot off big time
spursfanchampion30 4 years ago
well i think jordan, as of today, is the best player of all time, BUT, i dont think he would beat kobe at one on one, kobe is the better one on one player.
thegrudge 4 years ago
What the fuck does Michael Jordan have to do with Kobe Bryant scoring 52 on Houston in this video?
samt8405 4 years ago 8
you said off the ball defender ....dipshit..
christian316 4 years ago 3
Kobe can score but its about winning and jordan 6 championships and bes record ever? thats why hes the greatest but 1 on 1 ( which is not what the game is about) kobe wud win probably i dont know they are so close to being tied for greatest i like them both
Kobeownzu81 4 years ago 2
kobe still has time, IMO at 29 yrs old kobe is the better player, so he still has time to do some things, provided if he gets a decent team, cause everyone knows Jordan's teammates were way better than what the Lkaers got. but yeh as of now i think jordan is still better
thegrudge 4 years ago
Kobe was wearing Air Jordan 3's during this game. It must be the shoes!
RockCentral1 4 years ago
Anyone who thinks teachers are underpaid needs to look at some of the comments on you tube.
hulksmash54 4 years ago
This might be Kobe's best video because he shows how deadly his fade away jumper is. I mean he literally looks for the slightest of spaces to rise up and shoot. Its truly amazing.
GoM3z9 4 years ago
wat kickz KB24 rockin JORDAN TREYZ YA DIGGG...REAL TALK THO KOBE JORDAN #1 FAN
niiieman2da 4 years ago
welcome to the nba yao lol.
franmicgom 4 years ago
this was a great game
ezekwu 4 years ago
jordan=31 50point games, kobe=21
kobe 4 60point games MJ=3
kobe 81 jordan 69
Pimpinaintezy 4 years ago
this nigga had an injured knee and scores 52
TheQuestion3 4 years ago
"serving up a facial on yao ming"
lallousse28 4 years ago
"leg problem " wat problem he is a warrior , he was shooting jumpshots and dunking over ppl he is a warrior
lallousse28 4 years ago
AMAZING!!!
atlzfinest4life 4 years ago