Chomsky appears to be making a list of historical tos and fros taken out of all context, both sides can make a historical narrative to suit their own purpose but where is the design for moving forward?
what did you expect from a people that are hold like rats in a big ghetto and the people doing that to them in theire own country come from all over the world??
How dare they hate the people that steals theire lands demolish theire homes, kills theire children and harvest theire organs
@Wassouf10 move back to your shit hole in Arabia, where they don't have sanitation and a baby boom is a literal thing. Leave Sweden... sooner or later, they will expel you. Muslims and Europe don't go together. Trust me.
@GoCardinal2012 Trust you? haha thank you for the laugh , and let's see what the future holds for you zionists =) I wont make a prediction like you did for muslims, but we shall see what will happend.
@Wassouf10 fuck you, idiot fuck. Jews are from all across the world, not just europe...typical idiot fucking anti-semite. don't you know that Jews run everything? we're everywhere. it's our time to shine. we rule over you. you are nothing compared to us, and never will be.
I love when it shows that shot of Dershowitz watching Chomsky while Chomsky talks about the bulldozers. You can literally see Dershowitz start to squirm. I'd be to ashamed to continue if I were him.
Basically all Chomsky is saying is that the Arabs were never offered full west bank sovreignty vis a vis the EXACT 67' borders immediately upon striking a deal.
WELLL DUH, EVERYONE KNOWS THEY WILL NEVER GET THAT.
He is playing on the ignorance of his audience to pretend to be scoring points on the "facts".The fact is Israel withdrew from Gaza...there are no Jews in Gaza...they left...no troops. And in return they got rockets. Spinning it as a strategic decision is fine...but the point remains
@waltermh111 thats exactly why Japan attacked pearl harbor, we had blockade on them for 100% of oil...they had to respond. our country would fold if we had that kind of blockade.
@rms16006 Yes, thanks. Few people know the truth about why Japan attacked, and due to our occupation of their country and control for so long, even they have little evidence around.
It wasnt even only oil that we tried to screw them over for.
US trying to control others is old.
Anyway, off topic, but no blockade or similar use of force to get ones way can expect to be met with anything but greater violence.
Chomsky claiming that the jews own New York and control the US! What a load of crap. And I laugh at how well he takes all his 'facts' way out of context and moulds them into a believable statement. Look at the history people and never take anyones word as fact
@BravoMrJohnny All right I'll do just what you say. The fact is the US has supported the state of Isreal so Noam is right. You lose, Noam is much smarter than you..
@SmogHouseTradingCo What are you talking about? Of course the US support the state of Israel, no one can or is denying that. But what Chomsky is saying, is that jews are in control of the US in order to support the state of Israel. Which is a load of old rubbish and borders on antisemitism. Smart? Yes he is. Realistic thinker? No he is not.
@BravoMrJohnny How about you go to a website that documents the contributions by interest groups in the US and you'll find out that many politicians receive very large donations from Jewish interest groups. Do you think these politicians are going to go against the interests of these groups after having been given such huge sums of money? Not if they want to get re-elected and keep their incomes high. Perhaps you should read the book "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" as well.
@altarofmadness6 No need, I don't doubt that there is money given to US politicians by Jewish interest groups. I also don't doubt there is money also given from other interest groups, like workers unions, church organizations, wealthy businessmen and various others, each with their own interests in mind. Do they all get there way? Does money really have that strong an influence on US politicians? Or is Chomsky just pointing the finger at the Jewish interest groups because it suits his story?
@BravoMrJohnny This is an old topic, but I would like to point you to proof that Chomsky i right, and he isnt even the first or loudest to say it. Jews do have way too much control here.
Recently Obama made a comment about Israel border issues, and Their PM came over and got a standing ovation from all of congress throughout his speech.
Nobody gets that much praise. If their showcase isnt control, I dont know what is. No other foriegn party gets that much attention and cheer.
@waltermh111 The mere fact that you say "Jews have way too much control here" has got me a little concerned about the way you see the Jewish people. This point aside, I don't see what problem you have with clapping in support of someone, did congress not clap and cheer as Yasser Arafat and Yitzhak Rabin shook hands over the Oslo Accords? Israeli PM's get their portraits burned all throughout the world, nothing wrong with showing a little support for a nation doing all they can to maintain peace.
The problem isn't Jews, the problem is Christian Zionism. Western culture is still recovering from a Biblical view of life - this is why Jewish colonization of Palestine is so easily acceptable in the West. Without the support of the West, Zionism would be just one of thousands of mad impossible movements, the subject of comedy - for the rest of us.
@waltermh111 All I know is Chomsly's comment about my country-India: "Unlike India, Iran hasn't invaded another country for several hundred years". If someone thinks that India is trying to disrupt world peace while Iran is trying to uphold freedom and human rights, it gives you an idea of how misguided this man is.
"Why is it that the people who demand the most respect that give the least? You sir, are a hypocrite and a Chomsky fanboy who's incapable of thinking for himself. You're sad and you're weak."
from humper:
See finger pointing adage in my earlier post...take care...
"I cannot post on the Chomsky video anymore. Apparently, the hypocrite doesn't believe I have the right to post my responses. I'm reminded of Voltaire: "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
from humper
Must I remind you that you are in America sir. Post what you will or dare. The statement by Voltaire is part of the fabric of this country. Everyone has the right to oppose you or anyone else...Your post isn't visible. Why?
@QRF11B And that basically sums you up sir. You can give but you can't take. The old adage when you point a finger you have 3 pointed back at you is approppo. You keep harping on my like of Chomsky while your opposition puts you in the same light unless you are him. Answering any of my questions is no prerequisite here. This is a public forum and the questions are for all. How arrogant...Apply everything you just stated to yourself if you have enough insight to do so...
@QRF11B Are you running out of words? "altruism of Mother Teresa", " backtracker " Who is bumbling and stumbling? The fact that I am a "Chomsky fanboy" has been admitted and established. You however are still evading a question I asked you earlier about Dershowitz whom you seem to be fond of. I guess I'll receive your take on my responses as erudite and "professorial" for what it is. Why would Dershowitz openly receive the words of an un-vetted person as expert? The moderator was even annoyed...
@QRF11B Are you running out of words? "altruism of Mother Teresa", " backtracker " Who is bumbling and stumbling? The fact that I am a "Chomsky fanboy" has been admitted and established. You however are still evading a question I asked you earlier about Dershowitz whom you seem to be fond of. I guess I'll receive your take on my responses as erudite and "professional" for what it is. Why would Dershowitz openly receive the words of an un-vetted person as expert? The moderator was even annoyed...
@QRF11B The point that the "majority" was not a valid indicator here was yours. I pointed out that by "your logic..." This is what I mean by prequalifying your own views then arguing them. Subjectively as in ones own mind, your own thoughts etc. Wow...I as well as many others sum up this debate in one way and others in another. You love Dershowitz and his...fill in the blank as per my earlier question which you chose to evade...
@QRF11B See the response of the81kid for your name calling. I have already addressed that. You seem like many debaters of your caliber who try to prequalify your position then argue your own point. I see Chomsky as much more factual than Dershowitz. You favor your opponent. Then you resort to name calling. You keep losing track. You are corresponding with someone who thinks Chomsky is superior. Dershowitz openly looked to someone who claimed to be at a peace conference without vetting. Really...
@QRF11B Just curious. What faults or falicies do attribute to Dershowitz? Mind you I do not share or concede to "your" views on Chomsky. But what pits lay in the perfect armor of your champion? I do not have to submit to your subjective views. You do understand that, don't you? I don't backtrack. You have proven that you do read english, a point that Chomsky made to the audience when citing his sources. "The same logic you provided" points to your view on the popularity contest. Simply...
@QRF11B Now we have reached a commonality. "In my opinion" is a very important point to concede. The debate is being viewed very subjectively. Dershowitz's claims are no more validated than Chomsky's using the same logic you provided. Favorable vs unfavorable. Although it is interesting to see that the those who agree with Chomsky fall under the category of anti-Semitism by your measure. I didn't hear Chomsky attack the ethnic background, culture, and/or religion of he Jewish faith.
@QRF11B You can pack your sentences with as many insults as you'd like. Your point is still moot. Watching a debate and detemining the victor is quite easy in this case. That I am a fan of Chomsky is a badge of honor. Maybe I am insulting someone very close to you for which I am truly sorry. Chomsky still proved his superiority to the person you hold so dear. It is evident in the majority of the replies to this video. If you bothered to read them. Watch the videos again for clarity. Regards...
@QRF11B I would expect name calling from a mentality such as yours. One usually resorts to those tactics when they lack the wherewithal to reply intelligently. My credentials against Dershowitz's was not in question. I did not attend nor participate in the debate. Chomsky proved his superiority. It seems you lack the intelligence to realize that. I don't usually reply to children, but thanks for your reply...humper...
Sionist can mot have a civil argument because they know they are lying. They need the . Total distortion that create confusion of the facts. Followed with personal attacks and childih reasoning. And allways patronising and trying to sound superior to sell the lies
Dersh spouts lies so breezily that you're tempted to accept them as the truth. He didn't seem uncertain of anything he said, so it can't be controversial, much less an outright lie, right? 'Cause who would be that brazen?
NOT A SINGLE DAMN SENTENCE HE SAID CAN BE TRUSTED. If Dersh told me the sky was blue I'd still have to go outside and check.
A debate of truth vs. rhetoric. I'm very happy to see that at least here on YouTube (amoung the people educated enough to look up these types of videos) people can still recognize the truth.
@falelesa Chomsky's old enough to be a grandfather but his monotone suits him. He chooses to rely on the substance on his arguments , on the facts at hand to make his case and he does so without peer.
I hate to read every time Chomsky fanatic fans comments. If it wasn't sad it would have been very funny. Those people are nothing but ignorant spineless low life who look up to this one-sided man, who would never talk about the flip side of his coin. A man that his world is painted with only 2 colors, black and white. If you're not in his side, you are nothing but a Nazi supporter. What a lame asshole.
@0kcomputer (nice name by the way). You seem to not have read much of Chomsky. I've never seen anything that made me feel as if he is guilty of binary thought. There is a video here on youtube where Chomsky explains why the concerns of the tea party protesters are legitimate, and they are certainly not "in his side".
@justgivemethetruth yeah it wasnt a great debate but i bet you can't disprove anything Chomsky says. Just because you dont understand what hes talking about doesent mean it isnt importand and understanding of these things doesnt come on a plate. You'l never be and expert on the subject just by watching a 14 part debate.
Chomsky is so eloquent in his spewing of opinion and historical revisionism. The claim that Arafat rejected the Camp David accord because of the resulting "bantustans" or "cantons" is spurious. I challenge anybody to find a quote from Arafat describing his objection to Camp David. He rejected it because it contained the words "end of conflict". It was the historical revisionists like Chomsky who have added the historical reasons for rejection. Arafat never raised it!
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Do not believe a word of what mr. Chomsky says. He is politically blind. This person was one of those unfortunate souls who desperately defended the serbian ultranationalist murderer dictator communist Slobodan Milosevic. Mr. Chomsky was a member of a group named (International Commitee to defend Milosevic in Haague" ... Not another word is needed ... a politically blind person ...
@SizifusHeureux Saying no denocide happened is hardly saying Milosevic was right to govern Yugoslavia. If only 2,000 people died, according to the UK Parl. inquiry, and most of those 2000 were Serbs killed by Kosovo guerrilla's then where's the genocide? If anyone's "blind" it's you.
To Miskafofer - one either respects the rule of law or he doesn't. The World Court has ruled that Israel is illegally occupying Palestinian land. Chomsky presents his case as a scholar - with intellectual honesty. Dershowitz, on the other hand, only defends the rule of law when it supports his own agenda. He is a shill and a national disgrace.
@CreativeBent international law is there only when israel does something wrong, never when any other western or arab country does and therefore international law is pointless.
@JimmyeDallas I guess that the bill of right of UN that stated that any nation got a right for self determination is not so relevant in your world? I also guess that you despise Gandhi and other leaders that fought for independence of their nations.
I cannot find an argument to convince you in my world view, 1:0 to you.
@JimmyeDallas I remind you that you got some kind of problem with ethno-centric state such as Israel, totally forgetting the UN bill of right for self determination or World support for Indian Independence which is the creation of ethnic Hindu state. The fact that you country or its people did not decided to raise a banner of national self determination doesn't mean that other will dance to that tune. Even UN calls itself United Nation and Not United States for some reason.
chomsky is a nice guy who just wants to get the truth out. If norman finkelstein got up on that stage to debate instead of chomsky dershowitz would be shitting bricks. He's a fraud and Finkelstein has proven that with ample citation in his book beyond chutzpah.
you can't debate dershowitz-it's impossible-he twists history to a degree that it would take days to untangle his misconstruing. whenever a major mainstream source goes against him-like amnesty international-he simply says, oh well I don't trust Amnesty, & when Goldstone, jewish zionist man of high caliber, came out with his report-dershowitz called it despicable. His tactics and flat out lies are all clearly documented in Finkelstein's book "Beyond Chutzpah" which dershowitz tried to suppress.
@bths87 Finkelstein has nothing on Dershowitz. Dersh cleaned the floor with him in their '03 debate. Fink just spewed crap, insults, and attacks ("You're not qualified to be a harvard professor"). Dersh came out way ahead.
At the end of 1987 and first quarter of 1988 Sadam Hussein launched a state organized 6 months gas attack on the Iraqi Kurdish population. The world knew, and didn't do anything. We Israelis do not have the luxury of loosing a war, because we will be exterminated. Israel is the only place on earth that is our home by history. The holocaust proved us Jews that without a home of our own - we'll be killed. We do not want the faith of the Kurdish - we want to live.
Are Jews in America or Canada under the same kind of danger as they are in Israel? Your argument is bullshit. Displacing a people in a religiously divided territory and setting up an ethno-centric state was not a good long-term plan for keeping the Jewish people safe. How many wars have you fought with your neighbors? How many of them do you still occupy?
even if this was true, being persecuted does not entitle a religious group to seize land and form a nation.
There is no logical connection between the genocide of the last world war, and the right to take land wherever you want because it is consistent with your religious ideology.
@gargantuandick Jews did not seized Arab land, majority of land in Turkish empire belonged to the Sultan. Arab Peasants were not Real estate moguls like Donald Trump, Turkish empire was a feudal empire. Israel inherited the land ownership and the land became state property, same as in US.
You got a twisted assumption that every Arab peasant had a right for a piece of land like kind of British nobility, this did not existed in Europe and certainty did not exists in Middle East.
Chomsky is a respected scholar for good reason-he tells things from an objective perspective & engages in thoughtful & relevant discussion..Dershowitz, on the other hand, comes off as someone trying to play with words & sway with emotion, rather than admit anything which may cast Israel in a negative light..
who want to blow up innocent jews, or anyone for that matter!? wake up people!!! but again you will continue being blind as long as you chose to. Remember though, in history you will be remembered as the blind ones who failed and refused to guarantee a specific community with their right - even helped [by being silence] in the extermination of the palestinian / and thus equated with Nazis and other fascist regimes.
@Ianmcgregorable He doesnt appear depressed, on the contrary he is a lively speaker in the sense that it is a delight to follow his argument and his responses.
I dont know how a depressed man can argue at all and beat the other guy.
Professor Dershowitz wins this debate. Chomsky blows smoke the entire debate and really ignores facts. He hates Israel and will say anything to damage Israel. He clearly has psychological problems and needs therapy.
After his rule-breaking rant against Chomsky, it was no surprise to me that Dershowitz again unnecessarily attacks Chomsky during his comment on a question that was actually directed at Chomsky. I suppose he needs to vent his envy from time to time.
Chomsky approaches the debate as a scholar. Both his intelligence and integrity are refreshing. I guess Dershowitz, (defender of law), forgot to mention how Israel violates international law. This debate is poorly
@CreativeBent You can write an a refreshing essay that Israel got no right to exsist and Jew can live happily in Poland and Germany as happy subordinates.
Israel is not s scholarly exercise, this is our national solution and not your moral solution.
Chomsky is a little strange in a big picture of the Big Jewish consensus of Zionism, people of his world view lived in Europe and died in holocaust, their Anti Zionist views did not impressed the Nazis.
Chomsky makes a clear point: the withdrawel from Gaza was an effort to strengthen the occupation of the West Bank. Gaza is still effectively occupied; they have no control over their borders, their ports, their utilities ect.
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Damn liberals stop supporting underdogs it's ridiculous. ISRAEL must defend itself, let it be, in fact we should give ISRAEL more than the $10 million that they already get today as all others...HOORAY
lol.... has it no occured to you that it is the Palestinians who are defending themselves. You seem to be blind to that fact that it is the Palestinians who are under a brutal Israeli occupation. It is Palestine which was wiped off the map in 1948! Just as the Jewish resistence used "any means" in the Warsaw ghetto uprising against the Nazi's the Palestinians should be afforded the same right in using "any means". HOORAY!
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it will be a good day when we see 3 muslims on stage debating the issue of palestine in an open manner, from all sides including open criticism of the murderous destructive policies of the various palestinian terrorists groups including hamas. For now it seems only Jews are big enough to look at the issue from several perspectives.
Yeah - I disagree. But hey, you are playing about with that pseudo science of race, which allows marvelous, non existent things to become real. Why don't you tell us how one transposes themselves from a ethnic genetic makeup into a man made literary genetic makeup. Exactly its impossible - you cannot conflate language and science together to make that so. Any person can adopt Christianity, just as any person can adopt Judaism - this does not change their genetic makeup.
i was under the impression that being jewish was a race and/or a religion. thats where i got the whole you can be jewish without believing in the torah. maybe its just a myth as well but conversion was very restricted and is quite rare.
What an interesting, valid point you've got there! It was exactly the same in South Africa. If only the blacks had been big enough to look at the apartheid from both points of view! Good thing the Jews have shown us you don't always have to side with the oppressed.
When I was Little I was lead to believe both Jews and Israel where a special and meek ppl for reason of their beliefs in god had brought upon them great trials and tribulations! Wow how wrong that is! they are the wolf!
in my opinion, these two speakers are the perfect juxtaposition of jewish people. Chomsky virtuous, righteous, and accomplished; Dershowitz a flash, self centered, dishonest dickhead
I can see Dershowitzs' pockets becoming fat with Israeli money. His lies are ridiculous.
HumaneAnon 1 week ago
alan is a liar and, chomsky a very very honest,decent man!!
MrJiddukrishhesse 3 months ago 4
Mark my words: Israel/Palestine will someday end very, very badly for everyone invloved.
landsf 3 months ago
anyone with a working brain can see that Dershowitz is a fucking lying Zionist weasel!!!
vietorkorean 3 months ago
@sngcoach no the americans have destabilized the country.
CheekiShit 4 months ago
Mandell really knows how to make a discussion come alive doesn't he?
gaglir 5 months ago
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Hey PaliNazi, your lips, my ass... they should meet.
The so called “Palestinians” of today,
do not represent a nation or people,
merely a bunch of Wannabe-Nazis.
Kish meir Yiddische Tuchus.
TheSanRemoResolution 7 months ago
the guy in the middle says the best.........he is really handsome.
AbramCortinas 7 months ago
ad hominem. Not just a pretentious idiom anymore.
jacksawild 7 months ago
I have listened to what he said, i just don't happen to agree with it.
simonjajames 8 months ago
Chomsky appears to be making a list of historical tos and fros taken out of all context, both sides can make a historical narrative to suit their own purpose but where is the design for moving forward?
simonjajames 9 months ago
@simonjajames
maybe you can explain that so called tos and fros taken out of all context by chomsky?
PeaceandUnity1972 9 months ago 2
@simonjajames
You really didn't pay attention to anything Chomsky said, did you.
fagbert 9 months ago 2
Todays so called Palestinians do not represent a nation or people, merely a bunch of wannabe Nazis.
ThePrideOfIsrael 9 months ago
@ThePrideOfIsrael
what did you expect from a people that are hold like rats in a big ghetto and the people doing that to them in theire own country come from all over the world??
How dare they hate the people that steals theire lands demolish theire homes, kills theire children and harvest theire organs
WELL BOOHOO FUCKER
PeaceandUnity1972 9 months ago
@PeaceandUnity1972
ThePrideOfIsrael 9 months ago
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@PeaceandUnity1972
Trying to discredit me ad hominem
merely exposes your frustration and ignorance.
ThePrideOfIsrael 9 months ago
Israel is the most evil nation ever, go back to Europe you jews
Wassouf10 11 months ago
@Wassouf10 move back to your shit hole in Arabia, where they don't have sanitation and a baby boom is a literal thing. Leave Sweden... sooner or later, they will expel you. Muslims and Europe don't go together. Trust me.
GoCardinal2012 11 months ago
@GoCardinal2012 Trust you? haha thank you for the laugh , and let's see what the future holds for you zionists =) I wont make a prediction like you did for muslims, but we shall see what will happend.
Wassouf10 11 months ago
@Wassouf10 fuck you, idiot fuck. Jews are from all across the world, not just europe...typical idiot fucking anti-semite. don't you know that Jews run everything? we're everywhere. it's our time to shine. we rule over you. you are nothing compared to us, and never will be.
EternalIntelligence 10 months ago
@EternalIntelligence
Wow. If all Jews shared your attitude, anti-semite would be a compliment.
stopthehatechild 10 months ago 2
@EternalIntel Get ready for round two only this time the job will be finished.
charvel1959 10 months ago
I love when it shows that shot of Dershowitz watching Chomsky while Chomsky talks about the bulldozers. You can literally see Dershowitz start to squirm. I'd be to ashamed to continue if I were him.
senortonyful 11 months ago
Basically all Chomsky is saying is that the Arabs were never offered full west bank sovreignty vis a vis the EXACT 67' borders immediately upon striking a deal.
WELLL DUH, EVERYONE KNOWS THEY WILL NEVER GET THAT.
He is playing on the ignorance of his audience to pretend to be scoring points on the "facts".The fact is Israel withdrew from Gaza...there are no Jews in Gaza...they left...no troops. And in return they got rockets. Spinning it as a strategic decision is fine...but the point remains
zaxx19 11 months ago
@zaxx19 Yes, Jews did withdraw the formal occupation, but they did keep up a blockade on palestinian borders and economy.
Its not much better and Israel should expect the Gaza people to fight back til Israel stops choking their lives with the blockade.
waltermh111 10 months ago
@waltermh111 thats exactly why Japan attacked pearl harbor, we had blockade on them for 100% of oil...they had to respond. our country would fold if we had that kind of blockade.
rms16006 9 months ago
@rms16006 Yes, thanks. Few people know the truth about why Japan attacked, and due to our occupation of their country and control for so long, even they have little evidence around.
It wasnt even only oil that we tried to screw them over for.
US trying to control others is old.
Anyway, off topic, but no blockade or similar use of force to get ones way can expect to be met with anything but greater violence.
waltermh111 9 months ago
Brian Mandell is boring! Get out of the way!
OfficialCommentator 11 months ago
other than that
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hammertime870 11 months ago
To Israel - Continue the settlements!
We are behind you.
hammertime870 11 months ago
Chomsky claiming that the jews own New York and control the US! What a load of crap. And I laugh at how well he takes all his 'facts' way out of context and moulds them into a believable statement. Look at the history people and never take anyones word as fact
BravoMrJohnny 1 year ago
@BravoMrJohnny All right I'll do just what you say. The fact is the US has supported the state of Isreal so Noam is right. You lose, Noam is much smarter than you..
SmogHouseTradingCo 1 year ago
@SmogHouseTradingCo What are you talking about? Of course the US support the state of Israel, no one can or is denying that. But what Chomsky is saying, is that jews are in control of the US in order to support the state of Israel. Which is a load of old rubbish and borders on antisemitism. Smart? Yes he is. Realistic thinker? No he is not.
BravoMrJohnny 11 months ago
@BravoMrJohnny How about you go to a website that documents the contributions by interest groups in the US and you'll find out that many politicians receive very large donations from Jewish interest groups. Do you think these politicians are going to go against the interests of these groups after having been given such huge sums of money? Not if they want to get re-elected and keep their incomes high. Perhaps you should read the book "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" as well.
altarofmadness6 11 months ago
@altarofmadness6 No need, I don't doubt that there is money given to US politicians by Jewish interest groups. I also don't doubt there is money also given from other interest groups, like workers unions, church organizations, wealthy businessmen and various others, each with their own interests in mind. Do they all get there way? Does money really have that strong an influence on US politicians? Or is Chomsky just pointing the finger at the Jewish interest groups because it suits his story?
BravoMrJohnny 11 months ago
@BravoMrJohnny This is an old topic, but I would like to point you to proof that Chomsky i right, and he isnt even the first or loudest to say it. Jews do have way too much control here.
Recently Obama made a comment about Israel border issues, and Their PM came over and got a standing ovation from all of congress throughout his speech.
Nobody gets that much praise. If their showcase isnt control, I dont know what is. No other foriegn party gets that much attention and cheer.
waltermh111 9 months ago
@waltermh111 The mere fact that you say "Jews have way too much control here" has got me a little concerned about the way you see the Jewish people. This point aside, I don't see what problem you have with clapping in support of someone, did congress not clap and cheer as Yasser Arafat and Yitzhak Rabin shook hands over the Oslo Accords? Israeli PM's get their portraits burned all throughout the world, nothing wrong with showing a little support for a nation doing all they can to maintain peace.
BravoMrJohnny 8 months ago
@BravoMrJohnny
The problem isn't Jews, the problem is Christian Zionism. Western culture is still recovering from a Biblical view of life - this is why Jewish colonization of Palestine is so easily acceptable in the West. Without the support of the West, Zionism would be just one of thousands of mad impossible movements, the subject of comedy - for the rest of us.
superhamzah85 8 months ago 11
@waltermh111 All I know is Chomsly's comment about my country-India: "Unlike India, Iran hasn't invaded another country for several hundred years". If someone thinks that India is trying to disrupt world peace while Iran is trying to uphold freedom and human rights, it gives you an idea of how misguided this man is.
Mrparrot73 7 months ago
@Mrparrot73
Isn't India (with US) destabilizing Pakistan? Iran is trying to uphold freedom and human rights? Oh... you said that, not Chomsky.
dihydrohydroxycodein 6 months ago
from: QRF11B
"Why is it that the people who demand the most respect that give the least? You sir, are a hypocrite and a Chomsky fanboy who's incapable of thinking for himself. You're sad and you're weak."
from humper:
See finger pointing adage in my earlier post...take care...
humper9 1 year ago
from: QRF11B
"I cannot post on the Chomsky video anymore. Apparently, the hypocrite doesn't believe I have the right to post my responses. I'm reminded of Voltaire: "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
from humper
Must I remind you that you are in America sir. Post what you will or dare. The statement by Voltaire is part of the fabric of this country. Everyone has the right to oppose you or anyone else...Your post isn't visible. Why?
humper9 1 year ago
@QRF11B And that basically sums you up sir. You can give but you can't take. The old adage when you point a finger you have 3 pointed back at you is approppo. You keep harping on my like of Chomsky while your opposition puts you in the same light unless you are him. Answering any of my questions is no prerequisite here. This is a public forum and the questions are for all. How arrogant...Apply everything you just stated to yourself if you have enough insight to do so...
humper9 1 year ago
@QRF11B Are you running out of words? "altruism of Mother Teresa", " backtracker " Who is bumbling and stumbling? The fact that I am a "Chomsky fanboy" has been admitted and established. You however are still evading a question I asked you earlier about Dershowitz whom you seem to be fond of. I guess I'll receive your take on my responses as erudite and "professorial" for what it is. Why would Dershowitz openly receive the words of an un-vetted person as expert? The moderator was even annoyed...
humper9 1 year ago
@QRF11B Are you running out of words? "altruism of Mother Teresa", " backtracker " Who is bumbling and stumbling? The fact that I am a "Chomsky fanboy" has been admitted and established. You however are still evading a question I asked you earlier about Dershowitz whom you seem to be fond of. I guess I'll receive your take on my responses as erudite and "professional" for what it is. Why would Dershowitz openly receive the words of an un-vetted person as expert? The moderator was even annoyed...
humper9 1 year ago
@QRF11B The point that the "majority" was not a valid indicator here was yours. I pointed out that by "your logic..." This is what I mean by prequalifying your own views then arguing them. Subjectively as in ones own mind, your own thoughts etc. Wow...I as well as many others sum up this debate in one way and others in another. You love Dershowitz and his...fill in the blank as per my earlier question which you chose to evade...
humper9 1 year ago
@QRF11B See the response of the81kid for your name calling. I have already addressed that. You seem like many debaters of your caliber who try to prequalify your position then argue your own point. I see Chomsky as much more factual than Dershowitz. You favor your opponent. Then you resort to name calling. You keep losing track. You are corresponding with someone who thinks Chomsky is superior. Dershowitz openly looked to someone who claimed to be at a peace conference without vetting. Really...
humper9 1 year ago
@QRF11B Just curious. What faults or falicies do attribute to Dershowitz? Mind you I do not share or concede to "your" views on Chomsky. But what pits lay in the perfect armor of your champion? I do not have to submit to your subjective views. You do understand that, don't you? I don't backtrack. You have proven that you do read english, a point that Chomsky made to the audience when citing his sources. "The same logic you provided" points to your view on the popularity contest. Simply...
humper9 1 year ago
@QRF11B Now we have reached a commonality. "In my opinion" is a very important point to concede. The debate is being viewed very subjectively. Dershowitz's claims are no more validated than Chomsky's using the same logic you provided. Favorable vs unfavorable. Although it is interesting to see that the those who agree with Chomsky fall under the category of anti-Semitism by your measure. I didn't hear Chomsky attack the ethnic background, culture, and/or religion of he Jewish faith.
humper9 1 year ago
@QRF11B You can pack your sentences with as many insults as you'd like. Your point is still moot. Watching a debate and detemining the victor is quite easy in this case. That I am a fan of Chomsky is a badge of honor. Maybe I am insulting someone very close to you for which I am truly sorry. Chomsky still proved his superiority to the person you hold so dear. It is evident in the majority of the replies to this video. If you bothered to read them. Watch the videos again for clarity. Regards...
humper9 1 year ago
@QRF11B I would expect name calling from a mentality such as yours. One usually resorts to those tactics when they lack the wherewithal to reply intelligently. My credentials against Dershowitz's was not in question. I did not attend nor participate in the debate. Chomsky proved his superiority. It seems you lack the intelligence to realize that. I don't usually reply to children, but thanks for your reply...humper...
humper9 1 year ago
Classic Chomsky, always clouding the issue with facts...Dershowitz is a mental midget in the face of Chomsky...
humper9 1 year ago
Sionist can mot have a civil argument because they know they are lying. They need the . Total distortion that create confusion of the facts. Followed with personal attacks and childih reasoning. And allways patronising and trying to sound superior to sell the lies
surlagachette2 1 year ago
Is that really Jeremy Piven the show in the audience? I wonder who here's there to root for.
Ydefinity 1 year ago
Dersh spouts lies so breezily that you're tempted to accept them as the truth. He didn't seem uncertain of anything he said, so it can't be controversial, much less an outright lie, right? 'Cause who would be that brazen?
NOT A SINGLE DAMN SENTENCE HE SAID CAN BE TRUSTED. If Dersh told me the sky was blue I'd still have to go outside and check.
Falstaff85 1 year ago 13
@Falstaff85 Why, because he's a Jew who happens to support the mere existence of Israel?
chamuda610 6 months ago
@chamuda610 Uh, no...cause he lies all the time, it's what he's paid to do?
Falstaff85 6 months ago
A debate of truth vs. rhetoric. I'm very happy to see that at least here on YouTube (amoung the people educated enough to look up these types of videos) people can still recognize the truth.
Fuglebolle 1 year ago 2
My Lord, the moderator is so concerned about the civility of the discourse. What's that all about?
MercierBradleyMichae 1 year ago
@falelesa Chomsky's old enough to be a grandfather but his monotone suits him. He chooses to rely on the substance on his arguments , on the facts at hand to make his case and he does so without peer.
uchihaangelus 1 year ago
Chomsky's arguments and deliverance simply chewed up the lawyer dickhead
maurpine 1 year ago
I hate to read every time Chomsky fanatic fans comments. If it wasn't sad it would have been very funny. Those people are nothing but ignorant spineless low life who look up to this one-sided man, who would never talk about the flip side of his coin. A man that his world is painted with only 2 colors, black and white. If you're not in his side, you are nothing but a Nazi supporter. What a lame asshole.
0kcomputer 1 year ago
@0kcomputer (nice name by the way). You seem to not have read much of Chomsky. I've never seen anything that made me feel as if he is guilty of binary thought. There is a video here on youtube where Chomsky explains why the concerns of the tea party protesters are legitimate, and they are certainly not "in his side".
ErrolSaid 1 year ago
@0kcomputer well guess what buddy, I'm pretty sure chomsky fanatics are tired of reading comments like yours, so what exactly is your point?
Osgilaithan 1 year ago
@0kcomputer Radiohead fan, so what exactly are you trying to say besides that you hate chomskys fans and Chomsky ???
MrCrgl 1 year ago
that debate mediator is so BORING!!!
777jordan 1 year ago
@777jordan that is probably the only comment actually worth reading here lol...and *pause* it's um so *pause* true
BitchMankTV 1 year ago
BITCHIZ DON'T NOAM BOUT MY CHOMSKY!
mntlPurple 1 year ago
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cempakilispa 1 year ago
This is really a BS debate ... Chomsky blabbers on for 20 minutes about his version of history, and they are just arguing about that.
Why not start from who is doing what, and what is fair instead of quibbling over details on maps that no one understands anyway. This is so idiotic.
Just a question session so people can make speeches and ask their pointed questions and boo and cheer for who they want. Really a waste of time.
justgivemethetruth 1 year ago
@justgivemethetruth yeah it wasnt a great debate but i bet you can't disprove anything Chomsky says. Just because you dont understand what hes talking about doesent mean it isnt importand and understanding of these things doesnt come on a plate. You'l never be and expert on the subject just by watching a 14 part debate.
AntillRS 1 year ago
@justgivemethetruth i totaly agree..
bannnjac33 1 year ago
Communism and Hollywood?
ravishingravi 1 year ago
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holacaust is a myth, and everyone knows that.
With time now israel will pay a heavy price for these crimes.
They started the 1st ww and the 2nd ww.
lie allwasy they are the main criminal.Time to build up Hezbollah:
everyone who look at my comment have to see TALMUD as well to understand the filthynes of the zionist.
desiman1 1 year ago
chomsky is such a modest beacon of sanity and truth, and douchowitz is a petty hateful little weasel
irishrebelalert 1 year ago 2
Jordan was part of Palestine. The whole area should be added together and divided into two countries.
Rockwellbabe2 1 year ago
LMAO! New York! Oh that's funny!
TheTopBloke 1 year ago
Chomsky is so eloquent in his spewing of opinion and historical revisionism. The claim that Arafat rejected the Camp David accord because of the resulting "bantustans" or "cantons" is spurious. I challenge anybody to find a quote from Arafat describing his objection to Camp David. He rejected it because it contained the words "end of conflict". It was the historical revisionists like Chomsky who have added the historical reasons for rejection. Arafat never raised it!
flierumph 1 year ago
@flierumph Can you prove that? That would be very helpful.
TheTopBloke 1 year ago
I did not know 80% of new york residents are jewish. maybe he meant new york of planet chomsky.
0xFFF0 1 year ago
Everybody is talking about what Israel should do for the "2 states solution".
Nobody is talking about what the Arabs should do:
1. Arabs must give up the "right of return".
2. Arabs must recognize the historical right of the Jewish people on the land of israel.
3. Arabs must dismantle all Arab settlements inside the Jewish territories.
0xFFF0 1 year ago
Ah i just want to give both speakers a big hug!
These men are trying so hard to revolve these issues and they risk so much in the lime light.
Chomsky is the better man - but Dershowitz is also a formidable hero in his own right.
007VickVega007 1 year ago
It is possible to respond to a comment.
FaaarLeft 1 year ago
mandell....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
DonZaulker 1 year ago 14
ya ya ya, what about Hizbulla, they have their own land don't they--maniac
XSW1000 1 year ago
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Do not believe a word of what mr. Chomsky says. He is politically blind. This person was one of those unfortunate souls who desperately defended the serbian ultranationalist murderer dictator communist Slobodan Milosevic. Mr. Chomsky was a member of a group named (International Commitee to defend Milosevic in Haague" ... Not another word is needed ... a politically blind person ...
SizifusHeureux 1 year ago
@SizifusHeureux chomsky is an anarchist.
the point isnt that hes politically blind, the point is that people who believe him are fucking stupid.
ImTehWord 1 year ago
@SizifusHeureux Saying no denocide happened is hardly saying Milosevic was right to govern Yugoslavia. If only 2,000 people died, according to the UK Parl. inquiry, and most of those 2000 were Serbs killed by Kosovo guerrilla's then where's the genocide? If anyone's "blind" it's you.
Redcarpet01 1 year ago
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CreativeBent 1 year ago
To Miskafofer - one either respects the rule of law or he doesn't. The World Court has ruled that Israel is illegally occupying Palestinian land. Chomsky presents his case as a scholar - with intellectual honesty. Dershowitz, on the other hand, only defends the rule of law when it supports his own agenda. He is a shill and a national disgrace.
CreativeBent 1 year ago 23
@CreativeBent international law is there only when israel does something wrong, never when any other western or arab country does and therefore international law is pointless.
ImTehWord 1 year ago
@CreativeBent From where does the moral imperative derive to abide by international law when that body is deemed corrupt and antisemetic?
lourak 8 months ago in playlist Chomsky and Dershowitz debate Israel and Palestine
@CreativeBent
Is there anything else you can expect from a defense lawyer?
RasputinStream 8 months ago
@JimmyeDallas Can American burn an American flag and Join the Nazi party in the 30's? Yes he can.
Mishkafofer 1 year ago
How is an example about nationalism even relevant? An American burning his flag does not mean that Noam Chomsky (a Zionist Jew) hates his own people.
It's hilarious that an ethno-centric state can call other people racist or "antisemitic".
JimmyeDallas 1 year ago
@JimmyeDallas I guess that the bill of right of UN that stated that any nation got a right for self determination is not so relevant in your world? I also guess that you despise Gandhi and other leaders that fought for independence of their nations.
I cannot find an argument to convince you in my world view, 1:0 to you.
Mishkafofer 1 year ago
What does Ghandi have anything to do with Noam Chomsky being a Jewish antisemite? You've said nothing that has to do with the point I was making.
JimmyeDallas 1 year ago
@JimmyeDallas I remind you that you got some kind of problem with ethno-centric state such as Israel, totally forgetting the UN bill of right for self determination or World support for Indian Independence which is the creation of ethnic Hindu state. The fact that you country or its people did not decided to raise a banner of national self determination doesn't mean that other will dance to that tune. Even UN calls itself United Nation and Not United States for some reason.
Mishkafofer 1 year ago
The look of disdain on Chomsky's face at 6.31 as Dershowitz pipes up again.....priceless.
grecian300 1 year ago
A human that is anti-racism, anti-oppression, and anti-zionism!
Pro human right, and pro equality!
zakoumazakout 2 years ago
chomsky is a nice guy who just wants to get the truth out. If norman finkelstein got up on that stage to debate instead of chomsky dershowitz would be shitting bricks. He's a fraud and Finkelstein has proven that with ample citation in his book beyond chutzpah.
bths87 2 years ago 25
@bths87 I think finkelstein does better when he's debating politicians instead of other intellectual, check his debate against ben ami
Fig65 1 year ago
you can't debate dershowitz-it's impossible-he twists history to a degree that it would take days to untangle his misconstruing. whenever a major mainstream source goes against him-like amnesty international-he simply says, oh well I don't trust Amnesty, & when Goldstone, jewish zionist man of high caliber, came out with his report-dershowitz called it despicable. His tactics and flat out lies are all clearly documented in Finkelstein's book "Beyond Chutzpah" which dershowitz tried to suppress.
bths87 1 year ago 4
@bths87 Finkelstein has nothing on Dershowitz. Dersh cleaned the floor with him in their '03 debate. Fink just spewed crap, insults, and attacks ("You're not qualified to be a harvard professor"). Dersh came out way ahead.
LoudCitizen 10 months ago
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Where is Dershowitz? This again a propaganda clip of the neo-antisemit Chomsky!
roby5167 2 years ago
it's in clips, brain trust.
doston1 2 years ago 2
At the end of 1987 and first quarter of 1988 Sadam Hussein launched a state organized 6 months gas attack on the Iraqi Kurdish population. The world knew, and didn't do anything. We Israelis do not have the luxury of loosing a war, because we will be exterminated. Israel is the only place on earth that is our home by history. The holocaust proved us Jews that without a home of our own - we'll be killed. We do not want the faith of the Kurdish - we want to live.
TheLioninzion 2 years ago
Are Jews in America or Canada under the same kind of danger as they are in Israel? Your argument is bullshit. Displacing a people in a religiously divided territory and setting up an ethno-centric state was not a good long-term plan for keeping the Jewish people safe. How many wars have you fought with your neighbors? How many of them do you still occupy?
JimmyeDallas 2 years ago
even if this was true, being persecuted does not entitle a religious group to seize land and form a nation.
There is no logical connection between the genocide of the last world war, and the right to take land wherever you want because it is consistent with your religious ideology.
gargantuandick 2 years ago
@gargantuandick Jews did not seized Arab land, majority of land in Turkish empire belonged to the Sultan. Arab Peasants were not Real estate moguls like Donald Trump, Turkish empire was a feudal empire. Israel inherited the land ownership and the land became state property, same as in US.
You got a twisted assumption that every Arab peasant had a right for a piece of land like kind of British nobility, this did not existed in Europe and certainty did not exists in Middle East.
Mishkafofer 1 year ago
Chomsky is a respected scholar for good reason-he tells things from an objective perspective & engages in thoughtful & relevant discussion..Dershowitz, on the other hand, comes off as someone trying to play with words & sway with emotion, rather than admit anything which may cast Israel in a negative light..
myscorpions 2 years ago 7
he doesn't exude depression, he's just factual. it's a conscient decision to avoid emotive sensationalism. the facts exude enough by themselves.
acapeson 2 years ago 8
@acapeson exactly, exactly! zionists rely on emotional tactics & insults because their argument is so weak and based on lies and deceit.
RubiconXing 2 years ago 5
that's ridiculous. all propaganda is emotional because its most effective that way. the palestinians outdo the "zionists" in this regard.
thenotoriousSAMMYRAP 2 years ago
Yes those darn Palestinians, wanting things like houses and water. What's wrong with them?
D0g63rt 2 years ago 60
The fact that they want to blow up innocent Jews?
Benjiko 2 years ago
who want to blow up innocent jews, or anyone for that matter!? wake up people!!! but again you will continue being blind as long as you chose to. Remember though, in history you will be remembered as the blind ones who failed and refused to guarantee a specific community with their right - even helped [by being silence] in the extermination of the palestinian / and thus equated with Nazis and other fascist regimes.
zakoumazakout 2 years ago
@D0g63rt Whats Dershowitz doing with his hand?Flickin a buger or snifin his pinky finger?
gary7999 1 year ago 2
@D0g63rt Oh and the blood of Jews.....forgot that part whoops...
Now lets go eat some cake to celebrate the beheading of a 5 yr old baby...
He He....those lovable Arabs always outing themselves for me!!!
zaxx19 11 months ago
Go fuck yourself. That's my emotional zionist tactic.
jaythehistorian1 2 years ago
Totally agree......great observation....
LSRochon 2 years ago
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It's hard to listen to Chomsky. He exudes depression.
Ianmcgregorable 2 years ago
probably you are projecting yourself.
bilgueits 2 years ago 3
No, I can listen to many different speakers, and none have had the dark cloud that fills the room when this guy speaks.
Ianmcgregorable 2 years ago
@Ianmcgregorable He doesnt appear depressed, on the contrary he is a lively speaker in the sense that it is a delight to follow his argument and his responses.
I dont know how a depressed man can argue at all and beat the other guy.
bilgueits 2 years ago 6
Noam owns all.
jhille85 2 years ago 5
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Noam is an idiot. He is a sick man mentally
jaythehistorian1 2 years ago
only those without facts revert to name-calling.
the81kid 2 years ago 7
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Professor Dershowitz wins this debate. Chomsky blows smoke the entire debate and really ignores facts. He hates Israel and will say anything to damage Israel. He clearly has psychological problems and needs therapy.
dbsolomo1 2 years ago
He has psychological problems because hes pointing out the human rights violations of Israel?
I think it makes more sense to suggest that one who ignores these violations would be mentally ill.
Could you possibly give specific reasons on why he needs therapy?
Instead of hiding behind your dogma, you should see the situation without your religious ideaology.
I am neither Jewish or Muslim, so wheres my bias? I have a bias for human rights.
See policy with pragmatism, you will be surprised.
an50331 2 years ago 5
After his rule-breaking rant against Chomsky, it was no surprise to me that Dershowitz again unnecessarily attacks Chomsky during his comment on a question that was actually directed at Chomsky. I suppose he needs to vent his envy from time to time.
mapple23 2 years ago 4
i acnt believe dershowitz works at harvard...after seein this and hearing dershowitz i dont even wanna go there. he plagiarized a whole book
faraz875 2 years ago 11
@faraz875 cool, hahah!!! i was surprised , too.
caradeescusado 1 year ago
this moderator is like a bad SNL character...
gonzoredux 2 years ago 5
lmao hes so depressing.
NotATerrorist58 2 years ago
Chomsky approaches the debate as a scholar. Both his intelligence and integrity are refreshing. I guess Dershowitz, (defender of law), forgot to mention how Israel violates international law. This debate is poorly
matched....scholar vs shill.
CreativeBent 2 years ago 74
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Yes, Chomsky is the shill, Dersowitz is the scholar.
WingThaiJ 2 years ago
Very thoughtful response, WingThaiJ. I can see what
a deep thinker you are. BTW, Dershowitz is spelled with an "h."
CreativeBent 2 years ago 4
@CreativeBent You can write an a refreshing essay that Israel got no right to exsist and Jew can live happily in Poland and Germany as happy subordinates.
Israel is not s scholarly exercise, this is our national solution and not your moral solution.
Chomsky is a little strange in a big picture of the Big Jewish consensus of Zionism, people of his world view lived in Europe and died in holocaust, their Anti Zionist views did not impressed the Nazis.
Mishkafofer 1 year ago
Chomsky makes a clear point: the withdrawel from Gaza was an effort to strengthen the occupation of the West Bank. Gaza is still effectively occupied; they have no control over their borders, their ports, their utilities ect.
ZiggyZen 2 years ago 7
"Questions end in a question mark." That was hilarious. I do hate when people just use the Q&A segments as a means of voicing their own opinions.
MrSalamander7 2 years ago
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Israel is a just nation who does not use suicide bombers
inforevolution 2 years ago
No it use planes, tanks, snipers etc... which, maybe you don't know, intentionally killed and still killing waay more civilans than suicide bombers
AugustMichael1985 2 years ago 7
Even Israeli Humanitarian Organizations say this. Israel Is More Terrorist than the "Terrorists".
hanysal 2 years ago 5
cuz they have hearts and minds.
NotATerrorist58 2 years ago
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Damn liberals stop supporting underdogs it's ridiculous. ISRAEL must defend itself, let it be, in fact we should give ISRAEL more than the $10 million that they already get today as all others...HOORAY
destroyedu 2 years ago
lol.... has it no occured to you that it is the Palestinians who are defending themselves. You seem to be blind to that fact that it is the Palestinians who are under a brutal Israeli occupation. It is Palestine which was wiped off the map in 1948! Just as the Jewish resistence used "any means" in the Warsaw ghetto uprising against the Nazi's the Palestinians should be afforded the same right in using "any means". HOORAY!
Dvsblue 2 years ago 12
brilliant!
NotATerrorist58 2 years ago
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it will be a good day when we see 3 muslims on stage debating the issue of palestine in an open manner, from all sides including open criticism of the murderous destructive policies of the various palestinian terrorists groups including hamas. For now it seems only Jews are big enough to look at the issue from several perspectives.
thenewrapstyle 2 years ago
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idt chomskys a jew he said hes an athiest
leballin05 2 years ago
U can be a jewish atheist.
They exist.
besmb2105 2 years ago 7
i wanna meet one!
NotATerrorist58 2 years ago
just keep the mayonnaise off my corned beef sandwich!
tristramshandy3 2 years ago
Yeah):
besmb2105 2 years ago
being a jew is a religion - not a bloody ethnic group
greenmokey 2 years ago 5
Tell that to the Israelis.
SIavicgrils 2 years ago
race and religion. you dont necessarily believe in judaism but you can still be jewish by birth.
ridwana81 2 years ago
Yeah - I disagree. But hey, you are playing about with that pseudo science of race, which allows marvelous, non existent things to become real. Why don't you tell us how one transposes themselves from a ethnic genetic makeup into a man made literary genetic makeup. Exactly its impossible - you cannot conflate language and science together to make that so. Any person can adopt Christianity, just as any person can adopt Judaism - this does not change their genetic makeup.
greenmokey 2 years ago 2
i was under the impression that being jewish was a race and/or a religion. thats where i got the whole you can be jewish without believing in the torah. maybe its just a myth as well but conversion was very restricted and is quite rare.
ridwana81 2 years ago
What an interesting, valid point you've got there! It was exactly the same in South Africa. If only the blacks had been big enough to look at the apartheid from both points of view! Good thing the Jews have shown us you don't always have to side with the oppressed.
SolarJakee 2 years ago 7
When I was Little I was lead to believe both Jews and Israel where a special and meek ppl for reason of their beliefs in god had brought upon them great trials and tribulations! Wow how wrong that is! they are the wolf!
peteranton 3 years ago 11
aggression is like a disease. it happens all over the world. it can be stamped out and replaced by civility and peace and kindness.
intrepgun 3 years ago 8
in my opinion, these two speakers are the perfect juxtaposition of jewish people. Chomsky virtuous, righteous, and accomplished; Dershowitz a flash, self centered, dishonest dickhead
bhvfnhb 3 years ago 85