Proof - The Real Garden of Eden is found. See my channel for the video. Share it with others. The atheists don't want you to see it, that's why they've blocked me from showing them. Watch it and then tell someone!
@downyourtube i love how you complain about atheists blocking you, yet as soon as i say anything even remotely critical you block me. perhaps they blocked you because your stupidity is so mind-numbing that it makes them weep for humanity and wish that your mother's medical coverage had included abortion (for the sake of the species).
i am still in shock that anyone actually believes that just because they think they see shapes of a bone in an island that they have proven where eden was.
What will you say if I tell you If the Bible talks about Evolution,The Big Bang & before,eta and the timeline we have learned from Science is right and the Bible said the same thing and other things we just now learning about.
So I can say this is real proof of God becuase the Bible for told big events
over 13-15 billions of years in the right order!
If you wish to know the truth watch my Video: Omega Theory
overall your response is valid. Shawn's argument was flawed (the example he gave only proves that time cannot be actually infinite, but is only potentially infinite, but potential infinities can still be infinite) and his attitude was wrong (he was arrogant)
But check out the response by loser078, if you want to know how to improve.
One of the main things is attitude, that's what people admire the most, not knowledge. So stay calm, don't swear or get angry, be respectful, polite and hubmle
I disagree, infinite is without end. Bot without beginning or end.
Time could eternally regress into the past, which would mean it still goes on forever (without end) just into the past rather then the future.
It only becomes finite when we specify an amount, a section of time (like 2 seconds, 3 minutes, etc)
If we say time never began, but did end, does that mean we can specify an amount of time? No. You need a beginning and an end to specify an amount (i.e. from point A to point B)
It is true that God created man and one of the gift is the intellect which makes man to think.Therefore science is the product of the intellect to create something and discover something with the aid of intellect in which is given by God to man.
thats an interesting theory and all, but its unfounded. I can just as easily say that every single word you just said is a crock and you'd have no true way of proving your case. give me some proof. then we'll talk.
I think you are honest really of what you are saying.Yet, still I believe that God really exist and source of everything. I do hope you will believe the existence of God not now but maybe later of your life.Remember science can't answer and explain the existence of God.
I think you're one of the few responses to his video that is decent. However, I think you're making the same mistake you claim he's making by adding in your own assumptions to what Infinity, time, space, and matter are. You're claiming he's taking one side while you yourself are taking another. So it goes both ways, however I think his is more compelling and sound than yours.
Nice try though, really it's a good response. Just not convincing enough for me.
thanks. thats all i wanted, honest feedback. i AM taking a side, but what i was trying to get across is that at least i will admit the possibility of being wrong whereas vfx won't.
and by reading what you are saying, i guess one thing i can do next time is cite my sources as in this video, i really tried to back my argument up with science, but without sources, i can see how that wouldn't really be convincing.
but thanks again. i love it when someone gives a non-partisan response.
Considering I pointed out the flaws n VFX argument 1st as noted below means I'm not ignoring it totally, It's just common sense 2 me that the reason I speculate & assume along the same line he does is because basically it comes down 2 this fact alone, If something cant come from nothing, It can only mean 1 thing. That there all ways was & has been something n the beginning. So I try & rationalize around his flaws & put things into a different perspective considering a higher power such as a God.
What would make a God? If God is a spirit that means he is a transparent supernatural animated being that is like energy matter that can't be destroyed. If this spirit was 2 control & become 1 with time, which also cant b stopped or destroyed. Then He could b anywhere n time, past,present,future, with every 1 at the same time(omnipresent)& could even loop time making time infinite, gaining infinite knowledge & eternal life, making Him ultimately a God. So still cant rule out the possibility of 1
What does this have to do with the original argument? You're completely ignoring VenomphangX's argument totally.... please stick to it and not try running off with something else....
No 1 can exist outside of time & 2 say u can is a paradox. Time equals movement, so anything outside of movement would equal a frozen picture. You wouldn't be capable of even switching a light switch 1ce! U would be totally inanimate, not even capable of transmitting thought. Nor can u live out side of space which is another paradox. Space is indefinite(having no exact limit)Imagine living in a pin hole of space. Take away that & u have nothing! He already said Nothing comes from nothing!
I can't believe these religiosu freaks takes the bible SERIOUSLY!!! wake up!!! it is written by primitive people when knowledge isn't that modern as today!!!
i liked the response,. the problem is that NO ONE can REASON with people like venom, whatever his youtube name is. he is RELIGIOUS. that means "black" or "white". there is NO grey area in religion. it's always been a case of, "oh, you don't believe me? well you're a heretic so we're all gonna kill you because god told us to". sure, venom's not exactly that extreme, but those are his roots. and horrible, dangerous, ignorant destructive destructive roots they are.
e=mc2 is special relativity btw but good video i sent a similar comment to him so he has to see this explanation from somewhere. Anyway people like this dick dont even matter, he's obviously
Trying to talk to religious freaks is like talking to a dog. They always quote the bible when argueing the bible itself. The Bible is just a book people, written by man and changed over time. I mean do these bible quoters even know who wrote it and why?
yes we do, and if u read the bible u would find out...and btw, we dont know if time had a starting point, but it could...maybe shawn was a bit off on explaining things...but oh well, there could be a starting point, we will never know..intill we die
Religion is just like money. It is used by the most powerful people since society started. These men use it to distract us from what we could be. We are told to pray every sunday,pay taxes, follow laws,etc. Religion has caused more harm then good. Millions of people have died because of religious wars and money and rules. Wake up.
"Let God be true, but every man a liar" (Romans 3:4)
"The god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." 2 Corinthians 4:4
You are basically saying: What the bible says is true (because it was written by god). The bible says it was written by god. The bible was written by god. It's circular reasoning. Obviously, if the bible was written by man claiming to write for god than that passage is false.
"The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies." Psalm 58:3
"And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather then light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be manifest, that they are wrought in God." John 3:19-21
I am a humble christian. I do not want to be proud or appear that way. I am grateful for being able to read the word of God. "A man's pride shall bring him low." Prov. 29:23. KarateKld doesn't know everything, but God sure does. I will look upon him for my answers and not upon anyone else! :) God Speed
As a christian I always go back to the word of God to stand on. I do not use my own reasoning. I believe the whole word of God. In my opinion VenomFangX is correct. He is using the word of God to stand on. He does not have to debate. The fact that you are swearing at him shows anger in your heart. I will fight with the word of God. I will not be destroyed because I have God's word as my foundation and you can try and attack it, but you will never defeat it!
Room for improvement: lose the crib notes. It's a bit distracting when you turn and look at your next bullet point. That's really all I can think of at the moment. Whether VenomfangX has "pride in his voice" or not is irrelevant. It's clear that by denying the opposition a voice he doesn't want a debate. He wants his bubble, and any contradictory statement or evidence is just too scary for him to contemplate. Let 'em have his bubble, and his voice. To silence him would demean free speech.
"alright. thanks. but the pride bit is just to show the hypocrisy..."
A fair point, to be sure. I'm also pretty sure that he'll rationalise such a point as him being "human" and "fallible" but "his god will forgive him." Still, a fair point nonetheless.
Feel free to post a response? REALLY? Awesome! I tried posting one to Venomfangx welcoming him back and despite my belief that he's deluded, I support his right to free speech...which he monitored...and didn't see fit to put it up. But I'm certain he read it, and that's the important thing. Good response, better than the usual "sitting in a chair in front of the 'pooter" response. Matt Lillard rawks! ;)
if you are seriously trying to downplay einstein, then i don't even know how to respond, dude. and even if he was a theif as you call him, how does that make his points any less valid.
and as for your first point... did you even watch the video?
i know you want to believe that i tried only haphazardly, but i've gone to catholic school since pre-school and my crisis of faith was one of the most depressing times of my life. i am being completely honest when i say that i WANTED to believe. but that answer never came and so here i am today.
"If you want to know if God is real, just ask Him."
I spoke with the goddess, and she told me you're full of it. Simply BELIEVING it to be true makes it so? Sorry, mate. I have higher standards of acceptance. Even the dragon in my garage agrees with me, therefore it's true. ;)
creationist's never have 'a good case.' if i put a video out for every time VFX said something stupid, i would have to use up all the bandwidth on yuoutube.
this was fucking sweet, It is good because it has science and sarcasm, venomfangx is a chicken shit and will never have a real devate i hope this book gets alot of views it deserves
Proof - The Real Garden of Eden is found. See my channel for the video. Share it with others. The atheists don't want you to see it, that's why they've blocked me from showing them. Watch it and then tell someone!
downyourtube 7 months ago
@downyourtube that was a joke, right? i mean this is poe's law in action.
thelovablebarriboy 7 months ago
@downyourtube i love how you complain about atheists blocking you, yet as soon as i say anything even remotely critical you block me. perhaps they blocked you because your stupidity is so mind-numbing that it makes them weep for humanity and wish that your mother's medical coverage had included abortion (for the sake of the species).
i am still in shock that anyone actually believes that just because they think they see shapes of a bone in an island that they have proven where eden was.
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@thelovablebarriboy My mom passed in 09, oxygen thief.
downyourtube 7 months ago
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What will you say if I tell you If the Bible talks about Evolution,The Big Bang & before,eta and the timeline we have learned from Science is right and the Bible said the same thing and other things we just now learning about.
So I can say this is real proof of God becuase the Bible for told big events
over 13-15 billions of years in the right order!
If you wish to know the truth watch my Video: Omega Theory
Darkfoster22 2 years ago
atleast u like metal. FUCKEN SLAYER!!!
cobraspartan 3 years ago
"it doesn't make any fucking sense!"
no it doesn't lol
SloganLogan 3 years ago
Yes! Love the anger. Go ahead and cuss him out. He is an asshole. You make brilliant points in this video. Well done.
MGNSketchpad 3 years ago
haha. why thank you.
thelovablebarriboy 3 years ago
overall your response is valid. Shawn's argument was flawed (the example he gave only proves that time cannot be actually infinite, but is only potentially infinite, but potential infinities can still be infinite) and his attitude was wrong (he was arrogant)
But check out the response by loser078, if you want to know how to improve.
One of the main things is attitude, that's what people admire the most, not knowledge. So stay calm, don't swear or get angry, be respectful, polite and hubmle
TheOriginProject 3 years ago
I disagree, infinite is without end. Bot without beginning or end.
Time could eternally regress into the past, which would mean it still goes on forever (without end) just into the past rather then the future.
It only becomes finite when we specify an amount, a section of time (like 2 seconds, 3 minutes, etc)
If we say time never began, but did end, does that mean we can specify an amount of time? No. You need a beginning and an end to specify an amount (i.e. from point A to point B)
TheOriginProject 3 years ago
that nigga's got hairy arms!
bankyandbrodie 3 years ago
It is true that God created man and one of the gift is the intellect which makes man to think.Therefore science is the product of the intellect to create something and discover something with the aid of intellect in which is given by God to man.
jonnskel 3 years ago
thats an interesting theory and all, but its unfounded. I can just as easily say that every single word you just said is a crock and you'd have no true way of proving your case. give me some proof. then we'll talk.
thelovablebarriboy 3 years ago
I think you are honest really of what you are saying.Yet, still I believe that God really exist and source of everything. I do hope you will believe the existence of God not now but maybe later of your life.Remember science can't answer and explain the existence of God.
jonnskel21 3 years ago
"Remember science can't answer and explain the existence of God."
well, nothing can. for that matter, even faith cant. its just "a mystery."
and just to counter, faith cant explain science. did faith lead to electricity or antibiotics? no. science did.
perhaps then the man wiser than both of us is the one who can find a balance and take a little from both sides?
thelovablebarriboy 3 years ago
I think you're one of the few responses to his video that is decent. However, I think you're making the same mistake you claim he's making by adding in your own assumptions to what Infinity, time, space, and matter are. You're claiming he's taking one side while you yourself are taking another. So it goes both ways, however I think his is more compelling and sound than yours.
Nice try though, really it's a good response. Just not convincing enough for me.
KingKumaForever 3 years ago
thanks. thats all i wanted, honest feedback. i AM taking a side, but what i was trying to get across is that at least i will admit the possibility of being wrong whereas vfx won't.
and by reading what you are saying, i guess one thing i can do next time is cite my sources as in this video, i really tried to back my argument up with science, but without sources, i can see how that wouldn't really be convincing.
but thanks again. i love it when someone gives a non-partisan response.
thelovablebarriboy 3 years ago
Considering I pointed out the flaws n VFX argument 1st as noted below means I'm not ignoring it totally, It's just common sense 2 me that the reason I speculate & assume along the same line he does is because basically it comes down 2 this fact alone, If something cant come from nothing, It can only mean 1 thing. That there all ways was & has been something n the beginning. So I try & rationalize around his flaws & put things into a different perspective considering a higher power such as a God.
indocronx 3 years ago
What would make a God? If God is a spirit that means he is a transparent supernatural animated being that is like energy matter that can't be destroyed. If this spirit was 2 control & become 1 with time, which also cant b stopped or destroyed. Then He could b anywhere n time, past,present,future, with every 1 at the same time(omnipresent)& could even loop time making time infinite, gaining infinite knowledge & eternal life, making Him ultimately a God. So still cant rule out the possibility of 1
indocronx 3 years ago
What does this have to do with the original argument? You're completely ignoring VenomphangX's argument totally.... please stick to it and not try running off with something else....
KingKumaForever 3 years ago
sorry, i was just reading this again and wanted to ask, didnt i say that even i thought that god was a possibility in this video?
thelovablebarriboy 3 years ago
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No 1 can exist outside of time & 2 say u can is a paradox. Time equals movement, so anything outside of movement would equal a frozen picture. You wouldn't be capable of even switching a light switch 1ce! U would be totally inanimate, not even capable of transmitting thought. Nor can u live out side of space which is another paradox. Space is indefinite(having no exact limit)Imagine living in a pin hole of space. Take away that & u have nothing! He already said Nothing comes from nothing!
indocronx 3 years ago
no, its matthew lillard on an slc punk poster.
thelovablebarriboy 3 years ago
I can't believe these religiosu freaks takes the bible SERIOUSLY!!! wake up!!! it is written by primitive people when knowledge isn't that modern as today!!!
just believe SCIENCE!!! they are 100% true!!!
underclassdamnriot 3 years ago
well... amen brother.
thelovablebarriboy 3 years ago
Touché.
achingheadofdoom 3 years ago
i liked the response,. the problem is that NO ONE can REASON with people like venom, whatever his youtube name is. he is RELIGIOUS. that means "black" or "white". there is NO grey area in religion. it's always been a case of, "oh, you don't believe me? well you're a heretic so we're all gonna kill you because god told us to". sure, venom's not exactly that extreme, but those are his roots. and horrible, dangerous, ignorant destructive destructive roots they are.
cottonear 3 years ago
e=mc2 is special relativity btw but good video i sent a similar comment to him so he has to see this explanation from somewhere. Anyway people like this dick dont even matter, he's obviously
DanC9189 3 years ago
Trying to talk to religious freaks is like talking to a dog. They always quote the bible when argueing the bible itself. The Bible is just a book people, written by man and changed over time. I mean do these bible quoters even know who wrote it and why?
Jononutoob 3 years ago
yes we do, and if u read the bible u would find out...and btw, we dont know if time had a starting point, but it could...maybe shawn was a bit off on explaining things...but oh well, there could be a starting point, we will never know..intill we die
dumbledoorisgay 3 years ago
Religion is just like money. It is used by the most powerful people since society started. These men use it to distract us from what we could be. We are told to pray every sunday,pay taxes, follow laws,etc. Religion has caused more harm then good. Millions of people have died because of religious wars and money and rules. Wake up.
Jononutoob 3 years ago
you do realize that i said in this video that i DO think that time had a definite starting point, right?
thelovablebarriboy 3 years ago
"Let God be true, but every man a liar" (Romans 3:4)
"The god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." 2 Corinthians 4:4
This is the word of God!
KarateKld 3 years ago
or the word of man, claiming to write for god
christhemanrulez 3 years ago 3
That is not true!
2 Timothy 3:16 says,
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness."
KarateKld 3 years ago
You are basically saying: What the bible says is true (because it was written by god). The bible says it was written by god. The bible was written by god. It's circular reasoning. Obviously, if the bible was written by man claiming to write for god than that passage is false.
kinseyhyte 3 years ago
This is the word of God!
God speaks english?
Jononutoob 3 years ago
"The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies." Psalm 58:3
"And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather then light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be manifest, that they are wrought in God." John 3:19-21
KarateKld 3 years ago
I am a humble christian. I do not want to be proud or appear that way. I am grateful for being able to read the word of God. "A man's pride shall bring him low." Prov. 29:23. KarateKld doesn't know everything, but God sure does. I will look upon him for my answers and not upon anyone else! :) God Speed
KarateKld 3 years ago
As a christian I always go back to the word of God to stand on. I do not use my own reasoning. I believe the whole word of God. In my opinion VenomFangX is correct. He is using the word of God to stand on. He does not have to debate. The fact that you are swearing at him shows anger in your heart. I will fight with the word of God. I will not be destroyed because I have God's word as my foundation and you can try and attack it, but you will never defeat it!
KarateKld 3 years ago
i saw lots of people said that guy was a genius.. that would be you my friend.
blazinbrian20 3 years ago
Room for improvement: lose the crib notes. It's a bit distracting when you turn and look at your next bullet point. That's really all I can think of at the moment. Whether VenomfangX has "pride in his voice" or not is irrelevant. It's clear that by denying the opposition a voice he doesn't want a debate. He wants his bubble, and any contradictory statement or evidence is just too scary for him to contemplate. Let 'em have his bubble, and his voice. To silence him would demean free speech.
ColAbernathy 3 years ago
alright. thanks. but the pride bit is just to show the hypocrisy...
thelovablebarriboy 3 years ago
"alright. thanks. but the pride bit is just to show the hypocrisy..."
A fair point, to be sure. I'm also pretty sure that he'll rationalise such a point as him being "human" and "fallible" but "his god will forgive him." Still, a fair point nonetheless.
ColAbernathy 3 years ago
Feel free to post a response? REALLY? Awesome! I tried posting one to Venomfangx welcoming him back and despite my belief that he's deluded, I support his right to free speech...which he monitored...and didn't see fit to put it up. But I'm certain he read it, and that's the important thing. Good response, better than the usual "sitting in a chair in front of the 'pooter" response. Matt Lillard rawks! ;)
ColAbernathy 3 years ago
why do you "have" to admit that something could've been made by the random concecretion of particles?
also, you cant use albert einstein as a credible resource, he was a theif, he worked for a patent company and stole every idea from tesla
he also has no pride in his voice...
you're becoming angry over nothing really...
just calm yourself down
sethhardyv1 3 years ago
if you are seriously trying to downplay einstein, then i don't even know how to respond, dude. and even if he was a theif as you call him, how does that make his points any less valid.
and as for your first point... did you even watch the video?
thelovablebarriboy 3 years ago
LOL
Good reasoning, wasted on deaf ears, alas.
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
4th time watching it it really is fucking great
christhemanrulez 3 years ago
Hum. I got an answer in about 3 minutes. Try asking humbly in the name of Jesus.
artist1951 3 years ago
i know you want to believe that i tried only haphazardly, but i've gone to catholic school since pre-school and my crisis of faith was one of the most depressing times of my life. i am being completely honest when i say that i WANTED to believe. but that answer never came and so here i am today.
thelovablebarriboy 3 years ago
an no offense, but what the hell does that mean anyways? "ask humbly in the of jesus?"
thelovablebarriboy 3 years ago
If you want to know if God is real, just ask Him.
artist1951 3 years ago
yeah. i just never thought it take more than ten years to get an answer. i lost my patience long ago.
thelovablebarriboy 3 years ago
"If you want to know if God is real, just ask Him."
I spoke with the goddess, and she told me you're full of it. Simply BELIEVING it to be true makes it so? Sorry, mate. I have higher standards of acceptance. Even the dragon in my garage agrees with me, therefore it's true. ;)
ColAbernathy 3 years ago
creationist's never have 'a good case.' if i put a video out for every time VFX said something stupid, i would have to use up all the bandwidth on yuoutube.
C0ct0pus 3 years ago
this was fucking sweet, It is good because it has science and sarcasm, venomfangx is a chicken shit and will never have a real devate i hope this book gets alot of views it deserves
christhemanrulez 3 years ago
pwnd!
jkeaty2 3 years ago