A man took a beating, which is wrong and he was paid 60 grand which is apology enough. But I don't think any person could think themselves Muslim then preach to others about justice. 'All Jews should die, death to homosexuals, women should have no opinion', is this justice? I am not saying that all Muslims believe this, but Islam as a global movement encourages these beliefs and it is written in the Qu'aran
All police officers are not the same, I can only imagine emotions were running high, all mankind will be held accountable for their actions in the here after, so even if these police officer did taunt him and made comments, they would have paid, what goes around comes around.
There probly pissed off with all religion like the rest of us for all the wars,deaths and arrogance that surrounds it throughout past and present times..people need to start bein individual and get a mind of there own instead of bein brainwashed with misunderstud fairy tales..
Those coppers in the background should be ashamed of themselves laughing in the background. The british police are a bunch of facists and racists. My friend joined the police and she is gay, the others taunted her, bullied her and made her life hell. She no longer works in the police FORCE. Bastards. They have all got an attitude i hate them.
The Cops dont get prosecuted, they dont appologise nor does the MET.
This is 100% proof of the Oppression Muslims are facing in Britian. And yet the majority of the Brits expect Muslims to respect Britian after this type of treatment? Who will?
Plus the majority of the Brits wont even condemn them Britain =Terrorist State. And our tax money goes to these terrorists British cops, who would even wanna pay tax,.
no reporting on Christians being killed and the persecution they face in Muslim countries. of course, this isn't part of the fashionable left agenda. The people have it so bad here, but yet they still keep arriving here. strange that. He wan't go back to live in Pakistan will he? No. Cause he has a better life here.
Its not better her for you in the US. Keep an eye always watching. When you get here its fair game. If I were you I would stay in Britain. There you only got beat up a bit and feeling hurt. Here well lets say there is no coming back.
we, Europeans, do know more about islam than we ever wanted, and we don't CARE about the rest. This is our land, our culture, our wealth, and our rights.
You, muslim vermin, cannot demand anything from us, let alone to "understand" you fascist, barbaric ideology called islam of any interpretation we don't care about.
Muslims only try to exploit our own European values against our very culture, wake up Britain.
all the people posting hatefull ignorant and racist comments are only products of the relentless propaganda comapaign waged by hollywood and the main stream media for decades.
Its simple. The British people are not allowed to be British. Take the most recent event. Police not allowed to wear the union jack. Its a flag not a racist symbol.
And just who are you to state such naive bullshit? No, we are Europeans, and Britain is really going too far nowadays to create that neccessary public rage and support to start a campaign against the muslim vermin: Britain is pushing Europe in shame with this bullshit, a muslim is someone following islam. Islam, is a racist, fascist, and barbaric ideology, nothing there to tolerate or to respect.
Terrorism is requested from all believer in the quran, therefore all believers ARE terrorists.
What on earth is going on earth with all these racist comments. You guys are living in the dark ages.
The real enemy are the bankers. You will be left with hardly no public services, high unemployment, debt for you grand kids and forced to work in a chicken factory.
Probably then will you not bother giving an asian a hard time for trying to make a better life for themselves or escaping from american airstrikes.
Legend - Your comment is vile and racist, especially as you approve of the police beating up innocent people. You didn't even listen to the report because Babar Ahmad is not a "terrorist"; he hasn't even been charged with a crime, and he won this compensation because the police were proved to be in the wrong.
where they could preach hatred against the infidel and teach to innocent children the islamic law. We're living in a SECULAR country, isn't that shocking to you??? And it's not over yet! women doctors for their women, set timetables in pools (schedule for men and women in all our public pools), since Mr Pragmatism don't want me "to flood" this video, I'll stop there.
that was a joke, wasn't it? what have we been doing for MANY years???? we tried to use peace, to integrate them BUT they don't want to! They avowed WAR against us! Look they're asking for MORE mosques, inner Paris which is ridiculously SMALL has got OVER 50 mosques. They also want us to build islamic schools!!!
when i get really skint i'm going to use the race card too - i'm irish and it's about time i got my dues - every other incomer is getting theres, wheres mine?
I have no objection to a muslim being beaten. The police must know what they are doing - right?
sweetypie000 - If you're Irish, shame on you for knowing so little about your Irish history. You have "no objection" to an innocent person being beaten? "The police must know what they are doing"? Well 20 or 30 years ago it would have been you getting beaten up by the police because then simply being Irish meant being a terror suspect. Today it's innocent Muslims getting the same treatment. Never heard of the Guildford 4 or the Birmingham 6? Or internment at the Maze Prison? Shame on you.
I think what everyone is over looking is, what did he do to get arrested? He is wanted in America for terrorists acts and was probably on a watch list. I dont blame the police, they were dong their job. And everyone has a personal opinion, mine is that all radical muslims should be deported, every mosque should be torn down and you cant live off the government and have 4 wives an 30 children. Either abide by the laws of the land or get the hell out!
Anyway, what I'm trying to tell you it's that it's okay for muslims to live in Europe but I want them to respect secularity, to not force people to convert to their religion and culture, to not create special muslim districts and marginalize themselves from the society then complain by saying it's the fault of the non-muslims. (this is currently happening in France, the 2005 riots is a good example).
I'm open-minded and I support multiculturalism not COMMUNITARIANISM which is the main policy in UK, that's why the brits are being f*cked up by muslims. I don't want European cities to be divided in districts for muslims, blacks, whites, asians, jews, protestants, catholics, whatever you want, this is communitarianism.
You have continously spammed this video it doesn't look good mate, allow others to comment before you flood pages.
You talk of Europeans as one culture lol, if you came to the UK you would find that the majority of people dislike the French.
Considering there are over a billion muslims worldwide, you really have some nerve to call the majority of muslims bad people, you are nothing short of stereotyping.
Our government use violence to rid of violence -When we should be using peace!
I'm not against all muslims... Some muslims are tolerant and struggle against terrorism but they're just a small minority, the major part of the muslims either don't give a mind or either approve what the terrorists are doing.
You just don't want to admit that some muslims are messing up the whole Europe.
Are you approving those acts? By the way, you're telling me that I'm spewing hatred against a group of people but sir, I didn't insult you, I want to reason you...
The police in the G20 case is attacking the demonstrators while in the muslim demonstrations case, the police is being attacked by the muslims. See the difference?
"Nobody deserves to be beaten up for having an opinion"
Okay so it's okay for KKK to revive back and spew their hate in numerous demonstrations? There're LIMITS and BOUNDS. What are doing muslims is RACIST, they're a spewing hate against a group of people and they want them to be DEAD.
"There's violence between police and non-Muslim protesters at alot of demonstrations, including last week at G20 protests. "
But sir there's a difference, the police receives orders from the government to split up demonstrators so that they can't speak up. THIS is undemocratic and when the demonstrators are struggling against the police officers, this is a fight for democracy and freedom of speech while the muslims are spewing their hate against them as an outlet.
LongLiveEU... I'm not sure there's any point talking to you, because you are so prejudiced and paranoid. Your opinions are wildly inaccurate and offensive for the simple reason that you are suggesting that the majority of Muslims are bad people.
"you are suggesting that the majority of Muslims are bad people."
I don't. This is a FACT not my deduction...
One question for you, have you ever seen lots of demonstrations against terrorism? Of course you haven't... It is sufficient to prove that muslims don't care about what their muslim brothers are doing out there.
"Have we ever come to muslim countries to change their culture and force them to convert to ours? Have we?"
Yes we have, if you would look back through history im sure you will find the information - it just requires a bit of basic research.
Lets get one thing straight, there is no such thing is a muslim country - this world is here for all humans - no country or its people have a right to declare a land for one religion. I know in Mecca non-muslims are not allowed - its disgraceful.
The vast majority of Muslims do not behave violently at demonstrations. It's very easy and very stupid to blame an entire group of people for the actions of a tiny minority. Get some perspective.
NO this is not a normal demonstration, people who demonstrate against democracy and freedom of speech don't deserve any freedom! They're using democracy and freedom of speech to blow it up, they're taking advantage of freedom of speech and democracy's weaknesses.
so what people protested against G8 or whatever you want, they don't preach violence, they don't destroy everything or they don't bear hateful signs like "behead those who insult islam" and so forth.
There's violence between police and non-Muslim protesters at alot of demonstrations, including last week at G20 protests. You can't defend democracy or freedom of speech by bringing in fascism. Nobody deserves to be beaten up for having an opinion. If you're not intelligent enough to oppose an opinion with thought, and you need to use violence, then you're worse than the people you're condemning.
It may not get Babar Ahmad any trips to Mecca because he's been detained in a British prison without charge or trial for the past few years because of hidden evidence from the US which he is not even able to contest. £60,000 does not even begin to compensate an innocent man for his loss of freedom and human rights.
Just look up at some muslim demonstrations in UK, they're so rageful that you can see some hateful signs like : the real holocaust is coming, Europe, do you want a 9/11?, butcher those who insult islam and stuff like this...
And sometimes they attack the police officers (Abu Izadeen demonstration), you can't complain them, they deserved to get beaten up...
LongLiveEU - "the real holocaust is coming" refers to Muslims being treated today in the same prejudiced way as Jews were treated in Europe in the 1930s. Your coment illustrates the demonisation of Muslims in Europe very well. There's nothing criminal about angry demonstrations. They're part of democracy. Have you never seen any of the "rageful" protests in the UK or the rest of Europe against the G8 summit, or G20, or climate change, or EU policies etc. ?
by looking at how harsh the muslims are demonstrating with so much hatred and intolerance within themselves, I think they don't have to complain if they got beaten up!
So the Courts declare that the Police acted far beyond their remit and outside the Law. But the Police will admit no wrong doing nor offer this man an apology!!?
So much for the Police no longer being a 'Racist Institution'!
ahmed was innocent and the police actually did something which was horific. The commissioner did not even appologise which shows how racist and islamophobic the police openly are!!!!
What's Pakistan got to do with it? Babar Ahmad is a British citizen. Are you suggesting the British police should be aspiring to be like the Pakistani police?
"my" police? I'm British. These are my police. There are no laws in Islam which permit the physical or verbal abuse of an innocent person. Clearly you know nothing about Islam.
are you really joking when you say this, look at your rape laws, look at public executions, Jesus teacher for no one to kill another, jesus said "let him who is without sin cast the first stone", love thy neighbour as thy self, turn the other cheek... I can easily prove that Islamic laws are far more worst then british law.
I'm not opposed to the death penalty and neither are alot of British people. As for rape laws, the UK only has a 6% conviction rate, which means either 94% women are liars (unlikely as there's such a low success rate for convictions) or most rapists get away with it. Islam prescribes tough punishments for those who are GUILTY, not the abuse of innocents. British law would be fine if the police followed it.
the thing is oclandestin, a women has to have 4 male witness if she hasn't got this to prove her case then she would get 50 to 100 lashes, or stone to death in public. even if she is found innocent in some case she would still get lashes. just cheek videos on youtube for proof. and your point about the 6% conviction rate? don't you think britian will go thought extensive research to put the guy in prison?
Your comment just shows you can't learn about Islam from watching videos on youtube. What is practised in Muslim countries is not necessarily according to Islamic law. The point about the UK's 6% conviction rate is that it's very difficult to prove rape has occurred under any law in any culture or country. Generally women don't lie about being raped because it's too humiliating going through the investigation process and notoriously difficult to prove.
This is not only a video, this is what's happening actually in Europe.
For the holocaust the exact sentence is : be prepared for the real holocaust, you misunderstood the sentence, it clearly says that we must prepare to be "holocausted" by muslims. Don't try to avoid FACTS. They want to kill us all if we don't convert then put charia in all Europe, UK is the most infested by those rats, I already seen muslims saying : charia is the future of UK, Islam is not a religion of peace,"
LongLiveEU... where do you get all this ignorant paranoia from? from what you're saying it seems you've never met a Muslim in your life and never spoken to a Muslim. I don't judge all French people by Le Pen or his racist supporters, I don't judge all Americans by warmongering Bush supporters, so why do you judge all Muslims by the behaviour of a small minority? Your opinions are deeply irrational. I suggest you step outside your closed world and talk to real Muslims face to face.
hell no I don't vote for LePen, you're freaking mad, I'm socialist/democrat.
okay I have to agreed that it is a small minority BUT the rest of the muslims either APPROVE or either don't give a damn about that. While you can clearly expect rageful demonstrations when someone makes a drawing of the prophet, the muslims don't protest against terrorism, they don't give a damn... They are BIAISED.
Remember, complicity is APPROVING acts, therefore it is criminality!
I'm very surprised to hear you say you're a Socialist. In Britain it's Socialist organisations who speak out against prejudice against Muslims and are the most anti-racist. You sound exactly like a LePen supporter.
yeah but sir being socialist doesn't mean you gotta let middle-age barbarians invade your country, set up charia, change your culture and way of life by force. We, Europeans, have got our own culture and nowadays muslims are coming to eradicate our culture to replace it by theirs. Have we ever come to muslim countries to change their culture and force them to convert to ours? Have we?
what do you mean i can't learn so are you saying it's true that a women must have 4 male witness to prove rape in in islamic law, yes or no? why DOSE it have to be 4 male witness.
the is no respect for women in islam and i think i know more about islam then you, you muslims still belive that surah 4:34 says to beat a women lightly but in fact it dosen't say that. in the arabic text the word lightly was put in brackets meaning it isn't in the original text.
It's incredibly arrogant to suggest you know more about Islam than a Muslim. Why would anyone want to discuss their faith with someone who can't show even basic respect for people with different beliefs to them. Arabic is a complex language to translate and some words have multiple meanings. Muslims refer to the hadiths alongside the Qur'an to understand the context. I suggest you change your attitude and you might learn something.
the police just dont raid anyones house 4 terroist shit, they know alot more about it than we will ever find out but they just cant tell the press, its a shame really,
GOD BLESS THE BRITISH POLICE
OneManWolfPak 1 year ago
A man took a beating, which is wrong and he was paid 60 grand which is apology enough. But I don't think any person could think themselves Muslim then preach to others about justice. 'All Jews should die, death to homosexuals, women should have no opinion', is this justice? I am not saying that all Muslims believe this, but Islam as a global movement encourages these beliefs and it is written in the Qu'aran
SchoolGuy2 1 year ago
y cant the police beat me
i could do wit 60k
ghazalhora 1 year ago 55
Pixels firing on my cerebral cortex pretending to be real!
Ha Ha Ha
ronmawla 2 years ago
All police officers are not the same, I can only imagine emotions were running high, all mankind will be held accountable for their actions in the here after, so even if these police officer did taunt him and made comments, they would have paid, what goes around comes around.
blessing786 2 years ago 11
There probly pissed off with all religion like the rest of us for all the wars,deaths and arrogance that surrounds it throughout past and present times..people need to start bein individual and get a mind of there own instead of bein brainwashed with misunderstud fairy tales..
Jimpac857 2 years ago
Those coppers in the background should be ashamed of themselves laughing in the background. The british police are a bunch of facists and racists. My friend joined the police and she is gay, the others taunted her, bullied her and made her life hell. She no longer works in the police FORCE. Bastards. They have all got an attitude i hate them.
masterofpuppets1967 2 years ago
there are many other incidents of British Police oppressing Muslims & Ethnic minorities.
Nazmul99 2 years ago 11
What Justice is this?
The Cops dont get prosecuted, they dont appologise nor does the MET.
This is 100% proof of the Oppression Muslims are facing in Britian. And yet the majority of the Brits expect Muslims to respect Britian after this type of treatment? Who will?
Plus the majority of the Brits wont even condemn them Britain =Terrorist State. And our tax money goes to these terrorists British cops, who would even wanna pay tax,.
Nazmul99 2 years ago
let that be a lesson britain
you are no brothers of your muslim future masters
rakshark 2 years ago
no reporting on Christians being killed and the persecution they face in Muslim countries. of course, this isn't part of the fashionable left agenda. The people have it so bad here, but yet they still keep arriving here. strange that. He wan't go back to live in Pakistan will he? No. Cause he has a better life here.
DJFearRoss 2 years ago
Its not better her for you in the US. Keep an eye always watching. When you get here its fair game. If I were you I would stay in Britain. There you only got beat up a bit and feeling hurt. Here well lets say there is no coming back.
Anothercoilgun 2 years ago
oclandestin:
we, Europeans, do know more about islam than we ever wanted, and we don't CARE about the rest. This is our land, our culture, our wealth, and our rights.
You, muslim vermin, cannot demand anything from us, let alone to "understand" you fascist, barbaric ideology called islam of any interpretation we don't care about.
Muslims only try to exploit our own European values against our very culture, wake up Britain.
decemberthirtytwo 2 years ago
put the script down mate.
sekran 2 years ago
all the people posting hatefull ignorant and racist comments are only products of the relentless propaganda comapaign waged by hollywood and the main stream media for decades.
hansbricks912 2 years ago
Its simple. The British people are not allowed to be British. Take the most recent event. Police not allowed to wear the union jack. Its a flag not a racist symbol.
rcoughtrey 2 years ago
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trigga1uk 2 years ago
And just who are you to state such naive bullshit? No, we are Europeans, and Britain is really going too far nowadays to create that neccessary public rage and support to start a campaign against the muslim vermin: Britain is pushing Europe in shame with this bullshit, a muslim is someone following islam. Islam, is a racist, fascist, and barbaric ideology, nothing there to tolerate or to respect.
Terrorism is requested from all believer in the quran, therefore all believers ARE terrorists.
decemberthirtytwo 2 years ago
no punishment for the cops? Fucking out of order... here comes the police state...
whoareyapauldunn 2 years ago 50
You obviously have never had a Muslim friend, it is only natural to fear what you don't understand.
pclose11 2 years ago 7
two cops behind think its funny
geebones 2 years ago 5
What on earth is going on earth with all these racist comments. You guys are living in the dark ages.
The real enemy are the bankers. You will be left with hardly no public services, high unemployment, debt for you grand kids and forced to work in a chicken factory.
Probably then will you not bother giving an asian a hard time for trying to make a better life for themselves or escaping from american airstrikes.
We are in A Critical State.
ACriticalState 2 years ago
Legend - Your comment is vile and racist, especially as you approve of the police beating up innocent people. You didn't even listen to the report because Babar Ahmad is not a "terrorist"; he hasn't even been charged with a crime, and he won this compensation because the police were proved to be in the wrong.
oclandestin 2 years ago 3
where they could preach hatred against the infidel and teach to innocent children the islamic law. We're living in a SECULAR country, isn't that shocking to you??? And it's not over yet! women doctors for their women, set timetables in pools (schedule for men and women in all our public pools), since Mr Pragmatism don't want me "to flood" this video, I'll stop there.
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
"When we should be using peace!"
that was a joke, wasn't it? what have we been doing for MANY years???? we tried to use peace, to integrate them BUT they don't want to! They avowed WAR against us! Look they're asking for MORE mosques, inner Paris which is ridiculously SMALL has got OVER 50 mosques. They also want us to build islamic schools!!!
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
when i get really skint i'm going to use the race card too - i'm irish and it's about time i got my dues - every other incomer is getting theres, wheres mine?
I have no objection to a muslim being beaten. The police must know what they are doing - right?
sweetypie000 2 years ago
sweetypie000 - If you're Irish, shame on you for knowing so little about your Irish history. You have "no objection" to an innocent person being beaten? "The police must know what they are doing"? Well 20 or 30 years ago it would have been you getting beaten up by the police because then simply being Irish meant being a terror suspect. Today it's innocent Muslims getting the same treatment. Never heard of the Guildford 4 or the Birmingham 6? Or internment at the Maze Prison? Shame on you.
oclandestin 2 years ago 5
I think what everyone is over looking is, what did he do to get arrested? He is wanted in America for terrorists acts and was probably on a watch list. I dont blame the police, they were dong their job. And everyone has a personal opinion, mine is that all radical muslims should be deported, every mosque should be torn down and you cant live off the government and have 4 wives an 30 children. Either abide by the laws of the land or get the hell out!
kgshahid2 2 years ago
Anyway, what I'm trying to tell you it's that it's okay for muslims to live in Europe but I want them to respect secularity, to not force people to convert to their religion and culture, to not create special muslim districts and marginalize themselves from the society then complain by saying it's the fault of the non-muslims. (this is currently happening in France, the 2005 riots is a good example).
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
I'm open-minded and I support multiculturalism not COMMUNITARIANISM which is the main policy in UK, that's why the brits are being f*cked up by muslims. I don't want European cities to be divided in districts for muslims, blacks, whites, asians, jews, protestants, catholics, whatever you want, this is communitarianism.
LongLiveEU 2 years ago 2
You have continously spammed this video it doesn't look good mate, allow others to comment before you flood pages.
You talk of Europeans as one culture lol, if you came to the UK you would find that the majority of people dislike the French.
Considering there are over a billion muslims worldwide, you really have some nerve to call the majority of muslims bad people, you are nothing short of stereotyping.
Our government use violence to rid of violence -When we should be using peace!
MrPragmatism 2 years ago
I'm not against all muslims... Some muslims are tolerant and struggle against terrorism but they're just a small minority, the major part of the muslims either don't give a mind or either approve what the terrorists are doing.
You just don't want to admit that some muslims are messing up the whole Europe.
Are you approving those acts? By the way, you're telling me that I'm spewing hatred against a group of people but sir, I didn't insult you, I want to reason you...
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
The police in the G20 case is attacking the demonstrators while in the muslim demonstrations case, the police is being attacked by the muslims. See the difference?
"Nobody deserves to be beaten up for having an opinion"
Okay so it's okay for KKK to revive back and spew their hate in numerous demonstrations? There're LIMITS and BOUNDS. What are doing muslims is RACIST, they're a spewing hate against a group of people and they want them to be DEAD.
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
You're the one spewing hate against a group of people. If you can't see you're prejudiced you need help.
oclandestin 2 years ago
"There's violence between police and non-Muslim protesters at alot of demonstrations, including last week at G20 protests. "
But sir there's a difference, the police receives orders from the government to split up demonstrators so that they can't speak up. THIS is undemocratic and when the demonstrators are struggling against the police officers, this is a fight for democracy and freedom of speech while the muslims are spewing their hate against them as an outlet.
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
"I suggest you step outside your closed world and talk to real Muslims face to face. "
So that they could kill me because besides of being an infidel I hurted their religious feelings?
I already discussed with tons of muslims, about 5% are peacy and tolerant, the others preach violence, intolerance, war, killing of the infidels.
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
LongLiveEU... I'm not sure there's any point talking to you, because you are so prejudiced and paranoid. Your opinions are wildly inaccurate and offensive for the simple reason that you are suggesting that the majority of Muslims are bad people.
oclandestin 2 years ago
"you are suggesting that the majority of Muslims are bad people."
I don't. This is a FACT not my deduction...
One question for you, have you ever seen lots of demonstrations against terrorism? Of course you haven't... It is sufficient to prove that muslims don't care about what their muslim brothers are doing out there.
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
btw just for you to know, I don't support Israel hence I'm not a zionist
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
"Have we ever come to muslim countries to change their culture and force them to convert to ours? Have we?"
Yes we have, if you would look back through history im sure you will find the information - it just requires a bit of basic research.
Lets get one thing straight, there is no such thing is a muslim country - this world is here for all humans - no country or its people have a right to declare a land for one religion. I know in Mecca non-muslims are not allowed - its disgraceful.
MrPragmatism 2 years ago
"Lets get one thing straight, there is no such thing is a muslim country - this world is here for all humans "
okay tell that to the government of Saudi Arabia... even the most tolerant muslim countries like Algeria which is persecuting its christians.
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
Look at this video : watch?v=yD5RIC7_nBw
Rageful muslims attacking innocent police officers, is that a NORMAL demonstration? No it isn't sir!
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
The vast majority of Muslims do not behave violently at demonstrations. It's very easy and very stupid to blame an entire group of people for the actions of a tiny minority. Get some perspective.
oclandestin 2 years ago
etc...
NO this is not a normal demonstration, people who demonstrate against democracy and freedom of speech don't deserve any freedom! They're using democracy and freedom of speech to blow it up, they're taking advantage of freedom of speech and democracy's weaknesses.
so what people protested against G8 or whatever you want, they don't preach violence, they don't destroy everything or they don't bear hateful signs like "behead those who insult islam" and so forth.
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
There's violence between police and non-Muslim protesters at alot of demonstrations, including last week at G20 protests. You can't defend democracy or freedom of speech by bringing in fascism. Nobody deserves to be beaten up for having an opinion. If you're not intelligent enough to oppose an opinion with thought, and you need to use violence, then you're worse than the people you're condemning.
oclandestin 2 years ago
£60, 000. That'll get him a couple of trips to Mecca
ManxGirl33 2 years ago
It may not get Babar Ahmad any trips to Mecca because he's been detained in a British prison without charge or trial for the past few years because of hidden evidence from the US which he is not even able to contest. £60,000 does not even begin to compensate an innocent man for his loss of freedom and human rights.
oclandestin 2 years ago
Just look up at some muslim demonstrations in UK, they're so rageful that you can see some hateful signs like : the real holocaust is coming, Europe, do you want a 9/11?, butcher those who insult islam and stuff like this...
And sometimes they attack the police officers (Abu Izadeen demonstration), you can't complain them, they deserved to get beaten up...
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
LongLiveEU - "the real holocaust is coming" refers to Muslims being treated today in the same prejudiced way as Jews were treated in Europe in the 1930s. Your coment illustrates the demonisation of Muslims in Europe very well. There's nothing criminal about angry demonstrations. They're part of democracy. Have you never seen any of the "rageful" protests in the UK or the rest of Europe against the G8 summit, or G20, or climate change, or EU policies etc. ?
oclandestin 2 years ago
by looking at how harsh the muslims are demonstrating with so much hatred and intolerance within themselves, I think they don't have to complain if they got beaten up!
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
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LongLiveEU 2 years ago
So the Courts declare that the Police acted far beyond their remit and outside the Law. But the Police will admit no wrong doing nor offer this man an apology!!?
So much for the Police no longer being a 'Racist Institution'!
PaulMcCoch 2 years ago
ahmed was innocent and the police actually did something which was horific. The commissioner did not even appologise which shows how racist and islamophobic the police openly are!!!!
RealGeorgeGalloway 2 years ago 4
New Scotland yard?
Third world scotland yard.
Tamasha1 2 years ago
would he get compensation in Pakistan, the pakistani police do that every day.
He would not get a rupee.
Tamasha1 2 years ago
What's Pakistan got to do with it? Babar Ahmad is a British citizen. Are you suggesting the British police should be aspiring to be like the Pakistani police?
oclandestin 2 years ago 3
Alhamdulillah for justice. Let's hope the extradition to the US will now be blocked, inshaAllah.
oclandestin 2 years ago
lol you think this is bad, LOOK at your poilice and laws on islam.
horzion1 2 years ago
"my" police? I'm British. These are my police. There are no laws in Islam which permit the physical or verbal abuse of an innocent person. Clearly you know nothing about Islam.
oclandestin 2 years ago
are you really joking when you say this, look at your rape laws, look at public executions, Jesus teacher for no one to kill another, jesus said "let him who is without sin cast the first stone", love thy neighbour as thy self, turn the other cheek... I can easily prove that Islamic laws are far more worst then british law.
horzion1 2 years ago
I'm not opposed to the death penalty and neither are alot of British people. As for rape laws, the UK only has a 6% conviction rate, which means either 94% women are liars (unlikely as there's such a low success rate for convictions) or most rapists get away with it. Islam prescribes tough punishments for those who are GUILTY, not the abuse of innocents. British law would be fine if the police followed it.
oclandestin 2 years ago
the thing is oclandestin, a women has to have 4 male witness if she hasn't got this to prove her case then she would get 50 to 100 lashes, or stone to death in public. even if she is found innocent in some case she would still get lashes. just cheek videos on youtube for proof. and your point about the 6% conviction rate? don't you think britian will go thought extensive research to put the guy in prison?
horzion1 2 years ago
Your comment just shows you can't learn about Islam from watching videos on youtube. What is practised in Muslim countries is not necessarily according to Islamic law. The point about the UK's 6% conviction rate is that it's very difficult to prove rape has occurred under any law in any culture or country. Generally women don't lie about being raped because it's too humiliating going through the investigation process and notoriously difficult to prove.
oclandestin 2 years ago
This is not only a video, this is what's happening actually in Europe.
For the holocaust the exact sentence is : be prepared for the real holocaust, you misunderstood the sentence, it clearly says that we must prepare to be "holocausted" by muslims. Don't try to avoid FACTS. They want to kill us all if we don't convert then put charia in all Europe, UK is the most infested by those rats, I already seen muslims saying : charia is the future of UK, Islam is not a religion of peace,"
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
LongLiveEU... where do you get all this ignorant paranoia from? from what you're saying it seems you've never met a Muslim in your life and never spoken to a Muslim. I don't judge all French people by Le Pen or his racist supporters, I don't judge all Americans by warmongering Bush supporters, so why do you judge all Muslims by the behaviour of a small minority? Your opinions are deeply irrational. I suggest you step outside your closed world and talk to real Muslims face to face.
oclandestin 2 years ago
hell no I don't vote for LePen, you're freaking mad, I'm socialist/democrat.
okay I have to agreed that it is a small minority BUT the rest of the muslims either APPROVE or either don't give a damn about that. While you can clearly expect rageful demonstrations when someone makes a drawing of the prophet, the muslims don't protest against terrorism, they don't give a damn... They are BIAISED.
Remember, complicity is APPROVING acts, therefore it is criminality!
LongLiveEU 2 years ago
I'm very surprised to hear you say you're a Socialist. In Britain it's Socialist organisations who speak out against prejudice against Muslims and are the most anti-racist. You sound exactly like a LePen supporter.
oclandestin 2 years ago
yeah but sir being socialist doesn't mean you gotta let middle-age barbarians invade your country, set up charia, change your culture and way of life by force. We, Europeans, have got our own culture and nowadays muslims are coming to eradicate our culture to replace it by theirs. Have we ever come to muslim countries to change their culture and force them to convert to ours? Have we?
LongLiveEU 2 years ago 2
what do you mean i can't learn so are you saying it's true that a women must have 4 male witness to prove rape in in islamic law, yes or no? why DOSE it have to be 4 male witness.
horzion1 2 years ago
the is no respect for women in islam and i think i know more about islam then you, you muslims still belive that surah 4:34 says to beat a women lightly but in fact it dosen't say that. in the arabic text the word lightly was put in brackets meaning it isn't in the original text.
horzion1 2 years ago
It's incredibly arrogant to suggest you know more about Islam than a Muslim. Why would anyone want to discuss their faith with someone who can't show even basic respect for people with different beliefs to them. Arabic is a complex language to translate and some words have multiple meanings. Muslims refer to the hadiths alongside the Qur'an to understand the context. I suggest you change your attitude and you might learn something.
oclandestin 2 years ago 3
the police just dont raid anyones house 4 terroist shit, they know alot more about it than we will ever find out but they just cant tell the press, its a shame really,
internetprotected123 2 years ago
if they piss people like you off then im very happy to pay my taxes, well done met police keep it up
internetprotected123 2 years ago
but just flip the table and then see how much happy you gona be
nashtareen 2 years ago